I own a first year Model 100 in .308. My father bought it new and I received it from him prior to his death almost 30 years ago. The rifle still looks new and served us both very well. Influenced perhaps by its family and hunting history, but it is one of my favorites. As for its inherent accuracy, it is all a man could ask for... do your part and the round goes where it is aimed. Regarding reliability, decades upon decades of service with zero issues. Keep it cleaned and lubricated properly and it will not let you down.
I bought my M100 in a pawn shop. The stock looked new. No checkering and I later found out it was a Boker replacement. I was told that mine has the factory firing pin fix, but I don't know for sure. The 308 is plenty of rifle for most applications here in the States. I carries easily. I like it.
My dad and i have model 100 .308 and love them we also have my grandpas model 100 .284 and the gun has so much sentimental value that even a ridiculous offer would get turned down!
Just returned from vacation visiting my dad for Christmas in San Diego. You guessed it! Returned with grandpas Model 100 .308. Did read there was a recall in ‘92 for firing pin issue. Not knowing whether it’d been taken care of or not, should be receiving replacement soon from Winchester.
I just picked up a Pre-64 100 in .308 for a song. Somewhere in the back of my mind I knew that there had been a recall on the rifles long ago. A web search found a phone number to call to check if your rifle had been recalled and fixed. Damned if the number didn't still work and the lady said there was no record of my rifle having been fixed. Oh Shit! Now what? The lady told me, 'just send us the firing pin and we will send you a new one.' Are you kidding? Rifle has not been in production for nearly fifty years and you are still honoring the recall! So I proceeded to watch a TH-cam video or two and figured out how to field strip the 100 and got the firing pin out and it is now back at Winchester and I expect the replacement back next week. Well, once I got the rifle apart, it was time to clean it and BROTHER did it need it. I guess whoever owned and shot it never cleaned it at all. I got my first look up the bore after I had it apart and the bolt out and I almost fainted. Filthy doesn't describe it and I even though maybe it was shot-out and I had bought a parts only gun! Not so! I was amazed that a couple hours of soaking in bore cleaner returned the bore to looking nearly new! The other down-side was the finish on the stock, completely worn off in spots from being carried a lot evidently. Figured I have nothing to lose so I stripped the finish and am restoring it to as near Winchester factory as I know how. A fun project and I'll probably pass it along when I'm done. This video clearly shows the difference between the Pre and Post--64 stocks. Winchester threw out the baby with the bath water trying to save money with cheap wood and either no checkering or that gawd-awful machine pressed checkering.
I inherited my dads model 100 in .243 caliber. This gun has harvested many Minnesota Whitetails in some of the harshest conditions. The gun has worked flawlessly, my dad was diligent in keeping the gun clean, and lightly lubricated. Dad harvested several beautiful bucks and coyotes with this rifle. It is an honor to carry this gun after the passing of my dad. Great video my friend!
My dad gave me a Winchester Model 100 as my first rifle and he got that from a friend of his who bought it used at a gun show. I don't know the history of it before that. My dad only used it a few times. The thing jammed pretty much every shot. I assume that this was why my dad's friend sold it to him! After studying the issue, I figured out that the problem was that the extractor claw on the action was worn down from years of use, so when the action blew back it would slip off of the casing while it was still in the chamber. Had a gunsmith fix this for me and it works flawlessly every since.
@@jamesreese1999 I had it reallly clean. As I said, the problem was that the extractor was worn down so it wold slip off the case rim when it blew back. Once I got that replaced it didn't jam once!
I purchased on in 308 based on your review. Love it, actually a reduced sized M-1/M-14. Typical Winchester quality. thanks for the recommendation. Still wish we could get a cup of coffee, think the conversation would be non-stop with our admiration for the firearm design and history.
My uncle from NS uses one when he comes to ON. He told me a story of when he was a kid, and a 14 pointer ran out and stopped in front of him and the gun went click. He cycled another round, and it went click again. The buck ran off. He went back to camp, and his dad found that the gun had issues locking forward (not a cleaning issue and not a bur). Now my uncle makes sure the first chambered round has the action smacked closed with his fist. The first round will now work, and will then also cycle consecutive rounds. Good gun, but not without some defects.
"In 1990, Winchester issued a recall for this rifle due to a tendency for the firing pin to break due to use and metal fatigue and become lodged in the breech bolt face, causing the rifle to fire with the action not fully locked, leading to possible catastrophic failure and risk of severe injury or death to the shooter." Careful with that thing USOG, we want you to keep making videos.
I recently bought one in .243. I contacted Winchester and the recall is still in effect. You mail your existing firing pin to the them and they will send a revised (more robust) firing pin back to you.
We seem to have the same taste in these yesteryear guns. I hold the Model 100 and Rem 788s in high regard owning several chamberings in each. The 788 is my favorite though.
I don't know about them except my Grandfather was a gunsmith. He was a Winchester expert. He had several letters in his files from Winchester he corresponded to with them. I had a choice when I was young between a 100 and the 88. He told me to stay away from the 100. They were nothing but trouble. He had rebuilt and worked on both of them. It was a gun he didn't like and didn't like to work on so I took his advice like I did on a lot of things he told me. Just his opinion and he knew more about them than most everyone.
You picked one of my favorite rifles in the 100 Win. ! I dearly loved the 100 in 308Cal. ! Years ago when dog hunting deer you had to be able to hit a running deer . The 100 Win was the perfect gun for the job they were made when the U.S. still made good rifles. The only problem some had with firing pins was due to not cleaning their rifle, not the rifles fault! Good video!
... when a moving part is obstructed by impacted oil, grit and carbon of course it's going to fail ... the firing pin in the 100 is no flimsier than the ones in many other rifles ... I'll bet that the pins that failed were in guns that were drowned in oil and never cleaned properly
Another afterthought comment. Those scope mounts are the business! They hold zero very well. The barrels are made very well also. While sighting one in we got it fairly warm and while the group opened up normally, it did not shift. Buy with confidence.
My family has 12 of these all in 308 in all 3 configurations. Only issue we ever had was the ejector retaining spring retaining cap break ( small retaining pin on the cap would break. This would cause the ejector to fall off. Got replacements from Winchester (when Winchester was Winchester) Found the cap pin was so week that it would bend with finger pressure. Was going to trade school at the time and made 4 of these caps haft the diameter of a pencil. Get a A+ for the work and install 2 of those caps and never lost a ejector again. Later on received 5 updated one from Winchester for no cost. These is also a recall to replace the firing pin. Can not remember who is handling the replacement but if you look up Winchester 100 recall the web site will come up not charge.
Fantastic David - your work on the pin! Excellent comment and I have to remember to send my .243 firing pin back for replacement. Thanks for the reminder : ) Have a Merry Christmas and stay safe.
Great old guns! My dad and i both have pre 1964 model 100 in .308 and we also have my grandpas post 1964 model 100 .284 all 3 are great smooth shooting rifles!! Never had jamming or accuracy issues, they definitely dont make guns like they used to!
Hello Hunter Holiday - they sure are great. Classic for you and your dad to have the same rifle! I also have the .284 - like your grandpa's, but in the carbine version - slick and fast. Thanks for the note.
Almost forgot about the model 100. Where I live in Pennsylvania they are not popular,because they cannot be used for hunting.Our Game commission is thinking about changing that. You can use semi auto shot guns with rifled barrels.Some laws defy any logic Great video.
@@stevendedeian7774 You can use rifles that are manually operated but not any Semi-autos. I don't write the laws so I cannot explain why a semi auto shotgun is OK
@@whiskeykilmer1866 Semi automatic rifles have never been allowed here for some reason. Long before the M-15 or AK 47 became popular. Remington's model 760 and 7600 are very popular. They're both jokingly known here as the Amish automatics. If someone does a little practice there very little difference in speed between the two.
760/7600 are PA’s deer rifle of choice. I read somewhere that the sales of these pump guns in PA was higher than all other states combined. Not sure if that’s true, but I would not be surprised, we have 3 in our family. Technically auto loaders are legal for handicapped shooters in PA. Max 4 rounds in Magazine. I was born with no fingers on my left hand. I have collected, shot and hunted most of the sporting auto loaders, Winchester 100, Remington 740/742/7400, etc, Ruger 44 carbine and H&R 360 ultra (a real tack driver btw). Still looking to add a BAR and Winchester SRX bar some day. H&K made a beautiful semi in 308 and 3006, but they are not cheap. The Molot Vepr was also an interesting auto loading sporter, sadly no longer imported.
I am having a hell of a time assembling this rifle. People back then must of had patience of saints. I can’t imagine wanting to use this rifle with the dread of having to reassemble this thing.
I actually don’t have one of those. That’s neat, It has a gas piston system. Very little carbon into the action. We used the old Ruger 44 carbine for bear. I have both of them. One has a little 4x wide field scope. It worked very well.
Some things to know: (1) this rifle may double when fired from the bench if the shooter is wearing a padded jacket or recoil shield; (2) it is a total bitch to disassemble and reassemble; (3) there was a firing pin recoil in the 1990s. If you shoot one with the old firing pin, which was subject to breakage and sticking out of the firing pin hole, you can get a slam fire that will wreck your rifle and possibly you; (4) Brownells sells a stainless steel gas piston, which you should buy and install if you want to avoid problems; (5) if the rifle fails to eject, you'll likely need the extractor replaced and/or have the chamber polished; (6) shooting this rifle tends to shake scope rings loose in their mounts---so tighten the locking nut, screw or lever regularly; and (7) no matter what you do, the rifle may have cycling issues.
Yes, they will slam fire and blow up, had it happen to my wifes gun, she was very lucky and only got an injured hand , Winchester gave me my choice of any new rifle at the time, this was long before they admitted to having a problem
I have a very nice example rifle in 308. It was made in 1961. Shoots great. It has the same scope mount as your carbine. I have some magazine issues that could be remedied with a new spring kit. Aside from that it is a great rifle.
I have the 243 and 308 model 100 and the 284 and 358 model 88 they are 4 of the best woods guns I own,Far as the complete set of Remington model 742's I have, Long as I use Remington Cor lokt ammo they function perfect why I don't know ammo is ammo I think slightly different but for function basically the same,My son took his first buck with the model 100 308 my daughter took her first with the Remington 742 deluxe 243 all great rifles
I inherited the winchester model 100 .308 from my grandpa when he passed. Its been a great and reliable gun for me. Only problem I've had is that the clip was not original, and the spring needed adjusting; before that the gun would jam after the first round. After the fix, it works beautifully.
Evan Heyder a guy in my last church (I’m a pastor and have since moved) said the spring needed adjusting. Something about the way it was facing on the bottom of the clip
I've seen a few of these Winchester 100's, but only a few. I've seen more of the 88's but they're rare also. I'll keep my eyes open for either of these two models the next time we have a gun show. Mike, you must drink a lot of coffee because you're posting more and more videos, I love watching them because I appreciate your insights on the many different models you discuss. I also learn about the European firearm manufacturers that I rarely have the chance to see or learn about. I hope you had an enjoyable Thanksgiving and don't have to get out today with all the crazy folks and the holiday shopping. Take care!
Hi Paul, Hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving too! I'm trying to catch up with all the video requests so quite a few videos coming out. So happy you like the content! Have a great weekend.
I bought model 100 (1968) in .243 from a pawn shop in 1987. I hunted whitetails with it for 20 + years before I retired it to the safe. Awesome gun and never an issue with it
I wasn't aware the carbine was offered in .243 Winchester. Thought only the .284 Winchester was. Excellent video as always, really enjoy learning from your videos.
Owning a rifle with a broken stock and a carbine bothe in .308 I've used these rifles since 1971 when I returned from overseas with the US army , still having them today I would not part with them , the best rifle I have ever used and I've tried many , wish I could find a new stock for the rifle.
I have both the 100 and the 88 and love them both. A couple years ago, I picked up a new in the box Canadian made 490 which is more or less the same rifle as the 100 but in .22lr.. I still have not shot it, but when I do, I hope its as nice as its bigger brothers. thanks for all the great videos.
Hi Joel - the 490 is a fantastic .22 - as you know. I like the big styling and they succeeded in making a .22 that handles just like the center fire 88/100. I'll try to find one and make a video.
I have a pre-64 Win mod 100 rifle version in 308 Win with a 4 digit serial number (made in 1961). Have fixed a few 100s over the years for my hunting buddies who complained of jams and can narrow it down to 2 things: 1) dirt (as in not enough cleaning) & 2) oil (as in too much oil being applied). Some think if you drown a semi auto action in oil it will work better - WRONG! After my 100s annual stripping and thorough cleaning it gets 1 or 2 drops of high quality machine oil which is worked through the clean action by cycling a few times. Never had a jam.
The chamber on these have to be surgically clean. You may THINK you've cleaned the chamber sufficiently, but you likely haven't. If the chamber has a rough finish, all the cleaning in the world won't help. You have to get the chamber polished so crud doesn't stick to it so easily.
I bought a muzzle loader for 70 dollars, one day this guy said I like that muzzle loader, he walked in with a pre 64 model 100. 308w. He said will ya trade, I said, ahhh maybe lol. Like new. It wouldn't extract, so I went through all the internals and did the firing pin recall. Its mainly a safe queen, but shoot it every now n then. Mine isn't real accurate, like a tack driver but.. I'll hold on to it. Its very very low serial number. Great video
Get a new extractor from Nuline guns and have the chamber POLISHED, not just cleaned. Your extraction problems will go away. NOTE: the extractors are serial number specific: some are made for guns below a certain serial number, and others are made for guns above that serial number.
I love any Winchester chambered in .243cal. or 6mm. Also I don't know much about the different .243 loads other than for large game but I'm gonna have to check out those varmint loads. I've never seen them in stores in my neck of the woods. Really nice rifle by the way.
Another important part to lubricate is the ejector and that piece that grabs the bullet. There’s little springs in there that gets stuck sometimes. Overall great reliable gun. Mine shoots to the right two inches at 50 yards but good enough for me.
My .243 with the basket weave stock quit extracting cases. I wonder if this is the problem? It's an old gun 1967 I believe. It was my first rifle my grandpa gave me and I shot my first buck with. I'm determined to get it running smoothly again so my son can share the history of this rifle.
F**k yeah it is!! It seems everybody’s grandfather handed one down to them, EXCEPT MINE!!! 😂😂 Well, I do have 7 vintage double barrel 12 guages and a remington 870 that was never used that were handed down to me from both of my grandfathers!! My maternal grandfather had this gorgeous brass Henry 30-30 that my uncle destroyed upon him passing that still breaks my heart to this day!!
I have a 100 243 I took photos of the bolt-face and there's evidence of some chipping, the problem I've been having is getting shells to eject, I spun steel wool in the chamber and I have seen some improvement
I've never seen a Winchester 100. Looks like a ruger 10/22. Sounds like it functions good, but is it accurate? I would love to see how it performs on paper. Thanks for the video. Pretty good one!
Great review! I agree it is the best looking auto loader produced and primarily because of the full length stock akin to a bolt action. Much beefier than the stocks on the Model 88s. Personally I like the pre-64 cut checkered stocks versus post-64 stocks. Issues with feeding are usually attributed to dirty chamber and or magazine ears bent out of shape. Only other issue is folks to lazy to take stock off and thorough clean gas system! By the way the Model 100s gas system was designed on the M14 design! Triggers are hit and miss but if you do your part it will perform flawlessly most times. And the firing pin recall in 90s is the only issue they ever had a recall for. Also, they like quality ammo, and groups will be much better than when utilizing cheap ammo or known dirty ammo! Ya get what ya pay for go cheap get cheap results! In my opinion best auto loser centerfire produced.
Older video, new reply. The only problem I've witnessed on multiple occasions that was addressed by Winchester is some of them had carbon steel pistons that would rust and get stuck. The tube is stainless but the piston is carbon steel. You absolutely have to remedy the stuck piston before you can remove the action from the stock. The extra gas vents directly into the foreend so I fixed that by drilling a very small hole in the very front of the stock so the extra carbon from the gas can exit the stock. All of this does not apply to folks who actually maintain their rifles. Great rifles for the money.
Inherited my father's in .308 when he passed. I killed my first white tail with this rifle 40 years ago. Never had a single problem with it. Still haven't gotten the recall fix, but I will. It is dead nuts accurate.
Thanks for your presentation. I'm drawn to the carbine as well but definitely interested in the model 88 as well. I have to believe that with such a simple gas system lack of maintenance was the most likely issue.
Rich you are exactly correct maintenance is the key! Most are ignorant as to how to properly do that or just to lazy to do it. Most don’t even realize the the gas system on the Model 100 was designed off of the M14 gas system. And just as the M14 gas system needed to be cleaned often so does the Model 100!
My Dad bought me a new Remington model 740 or 742 maybe in 243 caliber in the late 70s and it has jamming fever ever since day 1. It maybe has 100 rounds shot through it and I think maybe 8 or 10 rounds is probably the most its cycled before jamming. I never told my Dad as I was a kid and didn't want him to be upset about it so I just kind of used it as a single shot until I could buy a savage 110 bolt gun. Anyway I wish my Dad had bought a Winchester that year for Christmas instead of that Remington.
742. 8. 7400.7500. people try to use them as battle rifles . they are not. they are. a fine hunting rifle. fast 2nd or 3rd shot. not ment to be hammered on box after box of ammo. it beats them up inside. if used for its intended purpose they make fine rifles.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns definately agree with both of you..if you want a battle rifle, you buy something designed for continous abuse..not a beautiful hunting piece....I know people who have told me they can wage a good defense, with a 7400, or a gun similar....after about 50 fast shot, it probabaly won't fire much after that...where a m1a1will last just like a Garrand, or a HK91a3..no one remembers about changing barrells out on the older M60s' or German 42's...fast shooting destroys any weapon in time, and a sporting hunting gun just can't handle that abuse.
That semi/auto Mdl -100 , with the tipoff mounts with the 1.5-5 is the ideal hunting rifle for white tail deer ! The low power of the scope allows one to be able to follow close range moving targets , & the tip off allows you to be able to use the open sight Incase of heavy snow or fog , which makes a 3x9 impossible to see past the end of the gun barrel
Hi Roger - you're one of the very few that have written me with positive things to say about the 742. My experience with them is the same as yours. I actually can't figure out what is happening to these fine rifles in the hands of so many. As a machine, they work perfectly - and with minimal care. Sometimes it seems people take them apart for cleaning and remove the barrel nut and maybe don't tighten it enough. Just my guess. Thanks for writing.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns To be honost, when I was young, I probably did not take very good care of the 308 Woodmaster my dad passed down to me when he got the 243 version, but I do not remember ever he or I having issues with the rifles. The only issue he had with the 243 was almost being ran down by a very large whitetail that he hit all five times and it fell at his feet. He traded that one the next day for I believe a 30-06. I still have the 308 and would hunt with it today if I didn't have so many other fun choices. PS I really enjoy your series and would love to communicate with you about some of my collection and get your thoughts. Thanks,
The problem with the Remington 742 and 7400, explained to me buy a reputable smith, is folks shooting heavy for cal weight loads through them. The rotating bolt head slams to the rear and puts little dings in the bolt guide rails. I've had several that were excellent rifles, but I've also had a couple that wouldn't cycle for anything.
Be careful when purchasing one of these. Some of the older ones have a carbon steel gas piston that needs to be upgraded with a stainless steel one. My friend dropped his off for me to look at and repair for him. It was frozen shut and the action can't be removed unless you can retract the bolt. I soaked it with Kroil (upside down not to drench the stock) and worked it loose. Very robust gas system other than that carbon steel piston that had rusted shut. Granted, he just shot it and put it away without cleaning it. It isn't the easiest to disassemble for him. I replaced his piston with the stainless one and he drops it off to me now after each hunt to clean. The excess gas vents into the stock so it will build up with carbon which then loves to absorb moisture. His is the .308 carbine with side flip scope mount and back-up irons. Great handling, accurate and runs reliably when kept clean.
Thanks for the nice video. Agreed on all your discussion. I'm a huge fan of the 100. Simply put, it's just a well designed rifle. Solid and simple.....everything you need and nothing you dont. I also love the handsome one piece stock. Gives the rifle a classic look. The model 100 and 88 are certainly under valued and under appreciated. Fabulous woods rifle to be sure.
i would love to do a side-by-side comparison of the Win. 100 and the H&R 360. The 100 is essentially a long-stroke gas piston, and the H&R is a short-stroke. But they are very similar rifles, even visually. I do love my H&R 360 tho.
Mine has the checkering just like your “88”, with a Vortex scope, it’s a keeper, for me, got real lucky 🍀, had my Guardian Angel watching over me. 🙏👍🏼🤠
Hi Kenneth - so hard to find! And you can see I had a superb one - and then a friend had to have it - now I'm back to square one: looking for a 100 in .243 - the best cal. for this rifle and action IMHO
I own a model 88 Winchester in .284 caliber. Now after watching this video I want a matching model 100. I liked your comment that guns are a good investment. They keep going up in price all right. But here in Canada there's a lot of unrest and distrust in the federal gov't with the threat of much stiffer firearms laws and banning handguns completely and all assault looking rifles and all semi-auto rifles. So very possibly our investment on these types and possibly more would turn to a bad investment. Canadians don't have a 2nd Amendment. Hell, Canada doesn't even have a constitution.
Inherited the Model 100 from my grandpa when he died. Love shooting it, never had an issue with its accuracy. Only issue was the clip. But that was an easy fix.
At 8:30 you remove the magazine but the action remains open. I have the 308 rifle version and it needs the magazine to lock open the action. Is there a difference between the carbine model and rifle version that allows the bolt to stay open without the magazine being in place?
I seem to remember way back in the 90's that Winchester advised people to not shoot their model 100's...something about a potential for catastrophic failure. At the time I don't even think they would repair them. Maybe they came up with a fix, but I suppose people should check to see if their model 100 is safe to shoot.
Yes, at first they said never shoot them and would not fix them, but after a huge uproar , they agreed to fix them, the firing pin breaks and they slam fire on an open chamber , which blows them in two, had it happen to my wife's gun , there is a small stamp they put on them, few people know if it and they are very dangerous to shoot
I have one on .308, excellent shooter..I have been tempted to sell it few times but I decided to keep it..they are rare to find and they are usually around 550 -650 and I have seen some for 700 dollars..
I call my M100 my civilian M-14. It's in 308 and it kinda feels like the old M-14. I shoot mine off of open sights rather like I did my Vietnam M-14. Four shots is enough and it shoots hard. Nice.
I have a pair of the Winchester 100. They were my grand parents hunting rifles. Still havent fired them because I'm waiting on replacement firing pins due to the recall. Have you had a problem with double firing?
Hi Heliarc - Nice that you have the 100 X 2. I've owned a few 100s - some had the pin replacement and some didn't; I never had any problem of any kind with any of them. I only have a .284 carbine now - and I took it shooting about 3 weeks ago - no problems of any kind and surprisinlgy accurate. I guess I should check to see if it the pin has been changed. I hope you have a chance to shoot the 100s you have soon. All the best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I cleaned and mainly oiled them a few weeks ago but, at the time didnt know what I was looking for in regards to after market firing pins.
@@jamesreese1999 They will slam fire, no matter how you hold them my wifes done it while shooting at a deer, it blew the gun in two, and parts flew all over, if they slam fire on a still open chamber it will cut the gun in half
The 100 has and aluminum gas system and if you store your rifle for long periods it can stick and the bolt won't move. But its and easy fix with a punch and a piece of wood.
Inherited mine from my grandfather took my first three deer with it including an 11pt. You would have to pry it from my cold dead fingers. God bless the USA. Thanks for the great content.
I purchased mine new in 1972...dump the scope and the goofy see through rings...it's made to snap shoot with and hit a target in less than 2 seconds, it's not a target riffle
I have a mod 100 308 cal has been sent back for recall I need a stock mine is busted along rite side of forarn on top against barrel has sliver missing gun was grand fathers I would love to get it shooting and looking gd again
There's an outfit that sells laminated stocks for the Model 100. I could not find that site again but this one can supply just about all your Model 100 needs. www.nulineguns.com/category_part_64_2_21_64.php
I have lost my front sight completely. Looking for an aftermarket replacement. What is the height from the barrel to the top of the bead. It had a very small bead originally.
Hi Michael - I don't know off hand but I measure from the center line of the bore to the U of the rear sight - that has to be the same distance as from the center line of the bore to the bead of the front sight. Hope this helps.
Do you by chance know any hi cap mag fits Browning Bar? Someone mentioned FNAR mag is compatible. Do you know anything of any possible compatibility mag in this regard? Thanks.
I got one for my birthday, and it doesn't have the barrel band, does that mean it's a later model? I know it was only in production for 11-12 years. Just curious.
I have a small collection of functional .22 rifles. Have made some costly mistaken purchases of .22's and larger caliber bolt rifles ( wallet says OUCH ! ). I just did not know what to look gor. Could you please help with a list of what to look for / how to inspect a rifle at a gun show so people like me to lessen the chances of purchasing a non-firing wall-hanger ? Thank you !
Just found one in my local Pawn Shop (500+) perfect condition, appears hardly used. Think I lucked out, nice semi auto 308, to partner with my Ruger American, bolt action. Need to find a long range to put against each other. 👍🏼🤠
Bravo - great buy! I love your idea! Please make a TH-cam video. My 100 in .284 beats some of my bolt actions - I wonder how the American will do against your 100 in .308.
9:35] "I'm not even sure if Pentax still offers scopes." I think they stopped in about 2014 and continued on with spotting scopes and binos for a while after that.
That is the only issue I have ever had with mine. I got it from my uncle, he hunted all his larger game with it, when I got it and found the information about the firing pin, I immediately checked it, then wrote Winchester, got a replacement in the mail, has been superb for me, as it was for him.
Hello and than you for the information on the Winchester Model 100. I have the .308 carbine version with the 19" barrel, was there a recommend bullet weight? I believe the twist rate is 1/12 for this model I could be misinformed. Any experience with ammo info would be appreciated.
Hello efrain - I have the same carbine 100 in .308. Mine shoots 150 grain Winchester perfectly and accurately. Hope these work for you as well. Doesn't have to be Winchester - try Federal of Remington or any; I just happened to have Winchester ammo and it worked so well and is so accurate - I stuck with it.
There are a couple flaws with this rifle. I have a .243 with the basket weave made around 1967 that was given to me as my first rifle by my grandpa. Out of my entire collection, this rifle means the most to me and I can't wait for my son to shoot a deer with it. There was a firing pin recall on these early models that Winchester still honors. The biggest problem with this rifle is the extractor and it's a common problem. Mine has this issue and I'm still trying to sort it out. Another issue is if the trigger guard screws ever start to loosen and the bolt closes over it, it is a huge deal to get it back to working condition. Always check these screws when you're cleaning.
I'm thinking about selling a couple of modern guns to get this old collectible rifle I have several hundred 308 rounds loaded to relatively high capacity and pressures similar to an AR-10 do I have to be concerned about the pressures I load my 308 rounds too with these semi-automatic rifles or as long as I stay within Sami spec ill be ok
I own a first year Model 100 in .308. My father bought it new and I received it from him prior to his death almost 30 years ago. The rifle still looks new and served us both very well. Influenced perhaps by its family and hunting history, but it is one of my favorites. As for its inherent accuracy, it is all a man could ask for... do your part and the round goes where it is aimed. Regarding reliability, decades upon decades of service with zero issues. Keep it cleaned and lubricated properly and it will not let you down.
I bought my M100 in a pawn shop. The stock looked new. No checkering and I later found out it was a Boker replacement. I was told that mine has the factory firing pin fix, but I don't know for sure. The 308 is plenty of rifle for most applications here in the States. I carries easily. I like it.
Marc West you stated the key to this and most weapons that unfortunately many are to lazy to do! Keep it clean and lubricated and it will work fine!
I have my grandfathers model 100 that he bought new in 1961. It might not be worth a lot of money but is priceless to me.
Hi Gary B, For sure priceless - and they are worth more and more.
My dad and i have model 100 .308 and love them we also have my grandpas model 100 .284 and the gun has so much sentimental value that even a ridiculous offer would get turned down!
I just got my Grandfather's today.
Just returned from vacation visiting my dad for Christmas in San Diego. You guessed it! Returned with grandpas Model 100 .308. Did read there was a recall in ‘92 for firing pin issue. Not knowing whether it’d been taken care of or not, should be receiving replacement soon from Winchester.
I just picked up a Pre-64 100 in .308 for a song. Somewhere in the back of my mind I knew that there had been a recall on the rifles long ago. A web search found a phone number to call to check if your rifle had been recalled and fixed. Damned if the number didn't still work and the lady said there was no record of my rifle having been fixed. Oh Shit! Now what? The lady told me, 'just send us the firing pin and we will send you a new one.' Are you kidding? Rifle has not been in production for nearly fifty years and you are still honoring the recall! So I proceeded to watch a TH-cam video or two and figured out how to field strip the 100 and got the firing pin out and it is now back at Winchester and I expect the replacement back next week. Well, once I got the rifle apart, it was time to clean it and BROTHER did it need it. I guess whoever owned and shot it never cleaned it at all. I got my first look up the bore after I had it apart and the bolt out and I almost fainted. Filthy doesn't describe it and I even though maybe it was shot-out and I had bought a parts only gun! Not so! I was amazed that a couple hours of soaking in bore cleaner returned the bore to looking nearly new! The other down-side was the finish on the stock, completely worn off in spots from being carried a lot evidently. Figured I have nothing to lose so I stripped the finish and am restoring it to as near Winchester factory as I know how. A fun project and I'll probably pass it along when I'm done. This video clearly shows the difference between the Pre and Post--64 stocks. Winchester threw out the baby with the bath water trying to save money with cheap wood and either no checkering or that gawd-awful machine pressed checkering.
I inherited my dads model 100 in .243 caliber. This gun has harvested many Minnesota Whitetails in some of the harshest conditions. The gun has worked flawlessly, my dad was diligent in keeping the gun clean, and lightly lubricated. Dad harvested several beautiful bucks and coyotes with this rifle. It is an honor to carry this gun after the passing of my dad. Great video my friend!
Always heartening to hear of family guns and hunting. Thank you for taking the time to write. Best of luck and safety this season. Great .243
My dad gave me a Winchester Model 100 as my first rifle and he got that from a friend of his who bought it used at a gun show. I don't know the history of it before that. My dad only used it a few times. The thing jammed pretty much every shot. I assume that this was why my dad's friend sold it to him! After studying the issue, I figured out that the problem was that the extractor claw on the action was worn down from years of use, so when the action blew back it would slip off of the casing while it was still in the chamber. Had a gunsmith fix this for me and it works flawlessly every since.
Keep the chamber REALLY clean to ensure you won't have any more ejection/extraction problems!
@@jamesreese1999 I had it reallly clean. As I said, the problem was that the extractor was worn down so it wold slip off the case rim when it blew back. Once I got that replaced it didn't jam once!
Possibly the trigger timing. If you have any problems contact new line guns Incorporated
I purchased on in 308 based on your review. Love it, actually a reduced sized M-1/M-14. Typical Winchester quality. thanks for the recommendation. Still wish we could get a cup of coffee, think the conversation would be non-stop with our admiration for the firearm design and history.
Fantastic! I'll be around in 2019 - hope to meet you! Have the best New Years!
"Value challenged!" 😆 I like that, may have to use it.
Never handled 100, but had a long conversation with a gentleman at the range with an 88. Looked and handled really well.
I'd take one over any import except maybe the H&K. These guns are American made - at the best time.
My uncle from NS uses one when he comes to ON.
He told me a story of when he was a kid, and a 14 pointer ran out and stopped in front of him and the gun went click. He cycled another round, and it went click again. The buck ran off. He went back to camp, and his dad found that the gun had issues locking forward (not a cleaning issue and not a bur). Now my uncle makes sure the first chambered round has the action smacked closed with his fist. The first round will now work, and will then also cycle consecutive rounds.
Good gun, but not without some defects.
I inherited my Dads Winchester 100. It's a 308 win. rifle I'm fixing it up to be used in this up coming deer season. It's going to a lot of fun.😊
Good on you - that'll be a special hunt.
"In 1990, Winchester issued a recall for this rifle due to a tendency for the firing pin to break due to use and metal fatigue and become lodged in the breech bolt face, causing the rifle to fire with the action not fully locked, leading to possible catastrophic failure and risk of severe injury or death to the shooter." Careful with that thing USOG, we want you to keep making videos.
I recently bought one in .243. I contacted Winchester and the recall is still in effect. You mail your existing firing pin to the them and they will send a revised (more robust) firing pin back to you.
We seem to have the same taste in these yesteryear guns. I hold the Model 100 and Rem 788s in high regard owning several chamberings in each. The 788 is my favorite though.
I don't know about them except my Grandfather was a gunsmith. He was a Winchester expert. He had several letters in his files from Winchester he corresponded to with them. I had a choice when I was young between a 100 and the 88. He told me to stay away from the 100. They were nothing but trouble. He had rebuilt and worked on both of them. It was a gun he didn't like and didn't like to work on so I took his advice like I did on a lot of things he told me. Just his opinion and he knew more about them than most everyone.
He probably hated to work on the 100 due to the very difficult reassembly of the rifle.
@@jmallen448I am working on one and it has lots of little pins.
You show the best firearms. I never even seen a model 100 before.
You picked one of my favorite rifles in the 100 Win. ! I dearly loved the 100 in 308Cal. ! Years ago when dog hunting deer you had to be able to hit a running deer . The 100 Win was the perfect gun for the job they were made when the U.S. still made good rifles. The only problem some had with firing pins was due to not cleaning their rifle, not the rifles fault! Good video!
... when a moving part is obstructed by impacted oil, grit and carbon of course it's going to fail ... the firing pin in the 100 is no flimsier than the ones in many other rifles ... I'll bet that the pins that failed were in guns that were drowned in oil and never cleaned properly
@@DouglasPrice-p9q You are right on pal!
The Winchester 100 is an exceptional rifle. As is the Remington 742. I too have never had an issue with either.
My granddaddy just passed his Model 100 chambered in .308 to me, it’s a BEAUTIFUL gun
Great good fortune Johnny - sorry about your Grandfather though. Guns can be replaced. All the best.
Another afterthought comment. Those scope mounts are the business! They hold zero very well. The barrels are made very well also. While sighting one in we got it fairly warm and while the group opened up normally, it did not shift. Buy with confidence.
My family has 12 of these all in 308 in all 3 configurations. Only issue we ever had was the ejector retaining spring retaining cap break ( small retaining pin on the cap would break. This would cause the ejector to fall off. Got replacements from Winchester (when Winchester was Winchester) Found the cap pin was so week that it would bend with finger pressure. Was going to trade school at the time and made 4 of these caps haft the diameter of a pencil. Get a A+ for the work and install 2 of those caps and never lost a ejector again. Later on received 5 updated one from Winchester for no cost. These is also a recall to replace the firing pin. Can not remember who is handling the replacement but if you look up Winchester 100 recall the web site will come up not charge.
Fantastic David - your work on the pin! Excellent comment and I have to remember to send my .243 firing pin back for replacement. Thanks for the reminder : ) Have a Merry Christmas and stay safe.
Jack O'Connor seems to have liked it; fair praise indeed.
Who cares that old cawnt is so overrated.
Great old guns! My dad and i both have pre 1964 model 100 in .308 and we also have my grandpas post 1964 model 100 .284 all 3 are great smooth shooting rifles!! Never had jamming or accuracy issues, they definitely dont make guns like they used to!
Hello Hunter Holiday - they sure are great. Classic for you and your dad to have the same rifle! I also have the .284 - like your grandpa's, but in the carbine version - slick and fast. Thanks for the note.
Nice video! This rifle looks so slick, like a grown up 10/22
Almost forgot about the model 100. Where I live in Pennsylvania they are not popular,because they cannot be used for hunting.Our Game commission is thinking about changing that. You can use semi auto shot guns with rifled barrels.Some laws defy any logic Great video.
John, I live in Arizona, and lived in PA for a while, long time back...........youre saying you can't use a rifle to deer hunt now?
@@stevendedeian7774 You can use rifles that are manually operated but not any Semi-autos. I don't write the laws so I cannot explain why a semi auto shotgun is OK
@@johnkendall6962 Probably because of all the people hunting with AR-15's
@@whiskeykilmer1866 Semi automatic rifles have never been allowed here for some reason. Long before the M-15 or AK 47 became popular. Remington's model 760 and 7600 are very popular. They're both jokingly known here as the Amish automatics. If someone does a little practice there very little difference in speed between the two.
760/7600 are PA’s deer rifle of choice. I read somewhere that the sales of these pump guns in PA was higher than all other states combined. Not sure if that’s true, but I would not be surprised, we have 3 in our family. Technically auto loaders are legal for handicapped shooters in PA. Max 4 rounds in Magazine. I was born with no fingers on my left hand. I have collected, shot and hunted most of the sporting auto loaders, Winchester 100, Remington 740/742/7400, etc, Ruger 44 carbine and H&R 360 ultra (a real tack driver btw). Still looking to add a BAR and Winchester SRX bar some day. H&K made a beautiful semi in 308 and 3006, but they are not cheap. The Molot Vepr was also an interesting auto loading sporter, sadly no longer imported.
I am having a hell of a time assembling this rifle. People back then must of had patience of saints. I can’t imagine wanting to use this rifle with the dread of having to reassemble this thing.
Hang in there. I know what you mean. Email me if things get worse usogbyemail@gmail.com
The bolt and career are very orientation specific many many tiny drift pins.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I’m only reassembled it as a display piece. Unfortunately it was severely pitted from storm surge due to Hurricane Ian.
never seen a mod 100 here in Alaska. cool old gun now i want 1 "Thanks" lol. lov ur vids
I actually don’t have one of those. That’s neat, It has a gas piston system. Very little carbon into the action. We used the old Ruger 44 carbine for bear. I have both of them. One has a little 4x wide field scope. It worked very well.
Some things to know: (1) this rifle may double when fired from the bench if the shooter is wearing a padded jacket or recoil shield; (2) it is a total bitch to disassemble and reassemble; (3) there was a firing pin recoil in the 1990s. If you shoot one with the old firing pin, which was subject to breakage and sticking out of the firing pin hole, you can get a slam fire that will wreck your rifle and possibly you; (4) Brownells sells a stainless steel gas piston, which you should buy and install if you want to avoid problems; (5) if the rifle fails to eject, you'll likely need the extractor replaced and/or have the chamber polished; (6) shooting this rifle tends to shake scope rings loose in their mounts---so tighten the locking nut, screw or lever regularly; and (7) no matter what you do, the rifle may have cycling issues.
You forgot about the trigger lock discontinuation in 1963
Yes, they will slam fire and blow up, had it happen to my wifes gun, she was very lucky and only got an injured hand , Winchester gave me my choice of any new rifle at the time, this was long before they admitted to having a problem
Never in my life have I had such a hard time assembling a rifle till I met the model 100.
I have a very nice example rifle in 308. It was made in 1961. Shoots great. It has the same scope mount as your carbine. I have some magazine issues that could be remedied with a new spring kit. Aside from that it is a great rifle.
Glad to hear it Stacy. They are very underappreciated yet are such fine rifles.
I have the 243 and 308 model 100 and the 284 and 358 model 88 they are 4 of the best woods guns I own,Far as the complete set of Remington model 742's I have, Long as I use Remington Cor lokt ammo they function perfect why I don't know ammo is ammo I think slightly different but for function basically the same,My son took his first buck with the model 100 308 my daughter took her first with the Remington 742 deluxe 243 all great rifles
I inherited the winchester model 100 .308 from my grandpa when he passed. Its been a great and reliable gun for me. Only problem I've had is that the clip was not original, and the spring needed adjusting; before that the gun would jam after the first round. After the fix, it works beautifully.
Smart fix - you can also find a new mag fairly easily at shows or on line - in case you need one.
I have the same gun as you, and it jams after the first round. How did you fix it? Thanks
Evan Heyder a guy in my last church (I’m a pastor and have since moved) said the spring needed adjusting. Something about the way it was facing on the bottom of the clip
I've seen a few of these Winchester 100's, but only a few. I've seen more of the 88's but they're rare also.
I'll keep my eyes open for either of these two models the next time we have a gun show.
Mike, you must drink a lot of coffee because you're posting more and more videos, I love watching them because I appreciate your insights on the many different models you discuss. I also learn about the European firearm manufacturers that I rarely have the chance to see or learn about.
I hope you had an enjoyable Thanksgiving and don't have to get out today with all the crazy folks and the holiday shopping. Take care!
Hi Paul, Hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving too! I'm trying to catch up with all the video requests so quite a few videos coming out. So happy you like the content! Have a great weekend.
I bought model 100 (1968) in .243 from a pawn shop in 1987. I hunted whitetails with it for 20 + years before I retired it to the safe. Awesome gun and never an issue with it
Great decision and great rifle - glad you made the buy!
I wasn't aware the carbine was offered in .243 Winchester. Thought only the .284 Winchester was. Excellent video as always, really enjoy learning from your videos.
Thanks Dan
I have both a Rem 742 (6mm rem) and Win mod 100 (308 win). I really appreciate your videos. Thanks.
Owning a rifle with a broken stock and a carbine bothe in .308 I've used these rifles since 1971 when I returned from overseas with the US army , still having them today I would not part with them , the best rifle I have ever used and I've tried many , wish I could find a new stock for the rifle.
I have both the 100 and the 88 and love them both. A couple years ago, I picked up a new in the box Canadian made 490 which is more or less the same rifle as the 100 but in .22lr.. I still have not shot it, but when I do, I hope its as nice as its bigger brothers. thanks for all the great videos.
Hi Joel - the 490 is a fantastic .22 - as you know. I like the big styling and they succeeded in making a .22 that handles just like the center fire 88/100. I'll try to find one and make a video.
I have a pre-64 Win mod 100 rifle version in 308 Win with a 4 digit serial number (made in 1961). Have fixed a few 100s over the years for my hunting buddies who complained of jams and can narrow it down to 2 things: 1) dirt (as in not enough cleaning) & 2) oil (as in too much oil being applied). Some think if you drown a semi auto action in oil it will work better - WRONG! After my 100s annual stripping and thorough cleaning it gets 1 or 2 drops of high quality machine oil which is worked through the clean action by cycling a few times. Never had a jam.
The chamber on these have to be surgically clean. You may THINK you've cleaned the chamber sufficiently, but you likely haven't. If the chamber has a rough finish, all the cleaning in the world won't help. You have to get the chamber polished so crud doesn't stick to it so easily.
Refreshing take on one of my favorite rifles. Thanks for the informative video
Thanks for being on the channel Richard!
I bought a muzzle loader for 70 dollars, one day this guy said I like that muzzle loader, he walked in with a pre 64 model 100. 308w. He said will ya trade, I said, ahhh maybe lol. Like new. It wouldn't extract, so I went through all the internals and did the firing pin recall. Its mainly a safe queen, but shoot it every now n then. Mine isn't real accurate, like a tack driver but.. I'll hold on to it. Its very very low serial number. Great video
That's a great trade!
Get a new extractor from Nuline guns and have the chamber POLISHED, not just cleaned. Your extraction problems will go away. NOTE: the extractors are serial number specific: some are made for guns below a certain serial number, and others are made for guns above that serial number.
I love any Winchester chambered in .243cal. or 6mm. Also I don't know much about the different .243 loads other than for large game but I'm gonna have to check out those varmint loads. I've never seen them in stores in my neck of the woods. Really nice rifle by the way.
Another important part to lubricate is the ejector and that piece that grabs the bullet. There’s little springs in there that gets stuck sometimes. Overall great reliable gun. Mine shoots to the right two inches at 50 yards but good enough for me.
My .243 with the basket weave stock quit extracting cases. I wonder if this is the problem? It's an old gun 1967 I believe. It was my first rifle my grandpa gave me and I shot my first buck with. I'm determined to get it running smoothly again so my son can share the history of this rifle.
I was not even aware of this model. Now it's on my wish list....in 308 of course.
F**k yeah it is!! It seems everybody’s grandfather handed one down to them, EXCEPT MINE!!! 😂😂 Well, I do have 7 vintage double barrel 12 guages and a remington 870 that was never used that were handed down to me from both of my grandfathers!! My maternal grandfather had this gorgeous brass Henry 30-30 that my uncle destroyed upon him passing that still breaks my heart to this day!!
I have a 100 243 I took photos of the bolt-face and there's evidence of some chipping, the problem I've been having is getting shells to eject, I spun steel wool in the chamber and I have seen some improvement
Thats one great rifle
Truly - an American great!
I've never seen a Winchester 100. Looks like a ruger 10/22. Sounds like it functions good, but is it accurate? I would love to see how it performs on paper. Thanks for the video. Pretty good one!
Mine cloverleafs touching each other. At 100 with federal premium 165grn
Great review! I agree it is the best looking auto loader produced and primarily because of the full length stock akin to a bolt action. Much beefier than the stocks on the Model 88s. Personally I like the pre-64 cut checkered stocks versus post-64 stocks. Issues with feeding are usually attributed to dirty chamber and or magazine ears bent out of shape. Only other issue is folks to lazy to take stock off and thorough clean gas system! By the way the Model 100s gas system was designed on the M14 design! Triggers are hit and miss but if you do your part it will perform flawlessly most times. And the firing pin recall in 90s is the only issue they ever had a recall for. Also, they like quality ammo, and groups will be much better than when utilizing cheap ammo or known dirty ammo! Ya get what ya pay for go cheap get cheap results! In my opinion best auto loser centerfire produced.
Older video, new reply. The only problem I've witnessed on multiple occasions that was addressed by Winchester is some of them had carbon steel pistons that would rust and get stuck. The tube is stainless but the piston is carbon steel. You absolutely have to remedy the stuck piston before you can remove the action from the stock. The extra gas vents directly into the foreend so I fixed that by drilling a very small hole in the very front of the stock so the extra carbon from the gas can exit the stock. All of this does not apply to folks who actually maintain their rifles. Great rifles for the money.
Great advice - I did not know this solution - or even the problem : )
Inherited my father's in .308 when he passed. I killed my first white tail with this rifle 40 years ago. Never had a single problem with it. Still haven't gotten the recall fix, but I will. It is dead nuts accurate.
Hi David - They're excellent and last and last. I have one in .284 which is also quite accurate. Cheers!
I’ve got a .284 carbine Mdl.100 and it’s my favorite!
Very scarce and in demand.
Thanks for your presentation. I'm drawn to the carbine as well but definitely interested in the model 88 as well. I have to believe that with such a simple gas system lack of maintenance was the most likely issue.
Think you're right Rich - simple maintenance seems to cure all.
Rich you are exactly correct maintenance is the key! Most are ignorant as to how to properly do that or just to lazy to do it.
Most don’t even realize the the gas system on the Model 100 was designed off of the M14 gas system. And just as the M14 gas system needed to be cleaned often so does the Model 100!
Yet another great informative video. Thank you for your time and knowledge.
Thank you Winfield!
My Dad bought me a new Remington model 740 or 742 maybe in 243 caliber in the late 70s and it has jamming fever ever since day 1. It maybe has 100 rounds shot through it and I think maybe 8 or 10 rounds is probably the most its cycled before jamming. I never told my Dad as I was a kid and didn't want him to be upset about it so I just kind of used it as a single shot until I could buy a savage 110 bolt gun. Anyway I wish my Dad had bought a Winchester that year for Christmas instead of that Remington.
Could just be a magazine spring issue. Believe me, the Model 100 had more than its share of problems!
I have 2. The one I shoot is the plane stock 308 and the one outfitted with longer range optics has the engraved stock.
I have two friends that have had model 100 in .284 both have had trouble with loading second or third shoot .
742. 8. 7400.7500. people try to use them as battle rifles . they are not. they are. a fine hunting rifle. fast 2nd or 3rd shot. not ment to be hammered on box after box of ammo. it beats them up inside. if used for its intended purpose they make fine rifles.
Fantastic comment! Not battle rifles! Other than that - in my experience : excellent!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns definately agree with both of you..if you want a battle rifle, you buy something designed for continous abuse..not a beautiful hunting piece....I know people who have told me they can wage a good defense, with a 7400, or a gun similar....after about 50 fast shot, it probabaly won't fire much after that...where a m1a1will last just like a Garrand, or a HK91a3..no one remembers about changing barrells out on the older M60s' or German 42's...fast shooting destroys any weapon in time, and a sporting hunting gun just can't handle that abuse.
That semi/auto Mdl -100 , with the tipoff mounts with the 1.5-5 is the ideal hunting rifle for white tail deer ! The low power of the scope allows one to be able to follow close range moving targets , & the tip off allows you to be able to use the open sight Incase of heavy snow or fog , which makes a 3x9 impossible to see past the end of the gun barrel
I agree - it really is fantastic...and then...stupid me - I sold it. Wow. I still have a .308 tho and the .284 - but I should have kept the .243.
Just got one from my dad. Stoked to use it this deer season! Gonna stick with irons for now I think.
Perfect! Great dad. I picked up a 100 in .243 - not easy to find; 3 shots - 3 pop cans at 75 yards; irons, off hand - ready to hunt!
USOG Nice!!! I can’t wait to get her sighted in. It’s a .308, rifle length. Post 64 but I am not picky.
My dad and I both hunting for many years with 742s with zero issues. Some people blame the firearm for there own issues.
Hi Roger - you're one of the very few that have written me with positive things to say about the 742. My experience with them is the same as yours. I actually can't figure out what is happening to these fine rifles in the hands of so many. As a machine, they work perfectly - and with minimal care. Sometimes it seems people take them apart for cleaning and remove the barrel nut and maybe don't tighten it enough. Just my guess. Thanks for writing.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns To be honost, when I was young, I probably did not take very good care of the 308 Woodmaster my dad passed down to me when he got the 243 version, but I do not remember ever he or I having issues with the rifles. The only issue he had with the 243 was almost being ran down by a very large whitetail that he hit all five times and it fell at his feet. He traded that one the next day for I believe a 30-06. I still have the 308 and would hunt with it today if I didn't have so many other fun choices. PS I really enjoy your series and would love to communicate with you about some of my collection and get your thoughts. Thanks,
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I love the model 100 I have them sitting next to my model 88s
Perfect pairing - M100s and M88s
Those are beautiful guns! I would love either of them!
The problem with the Remington 742 and 7400, explained to me buy a reputable smith, is folks shooting heavy for cal weight loads through them. The rotating bolt head slams to the rear and puts little dings in the bolt guide rails. I've had several that were excellent rifles, but I've also had a couple that wouldn't cycle for anything.
Thank you for your note - I had no idea.
I really like watching your vids! Thanks for your work!
Same
Thanks for being here Lou.
Great video as always.
Great Rifle, Great Review.👍
Thanks Uncle!
Be careful when purchasing one of these. Some of the older ones have a carbon steel gas piston that needs to be upgraded with a stainless steel one. My friend dropped his off for me to look at and repair for him. It was frozen shut and the action can't be removed unless you can retract the bolt. I soaked it with Kroil (upside down not to drench the stock) and worked it loose. Very robust gas system other than that carbon steel piston that had rusted shut. Granted, he just shot it and put it away without cleaning it. It isn't the easiest to disassemble for him. I replaced his piston with the stainless one and he drops it off to me now after each hunt to clean. The excess gas vents into the stock so it will build up with carbon which then loves to absorb moisture. His is the .308 carbine with side flip scope mount and back-up irons. Great handling, accurate and runs reliably when kept clean.
Excellent caution!
The stainless steel gas piston can be sourced from Brownells. It's a MUST have for the Model 100!
Thanks for the nice video. Agreed on all your discussion. I'm a huge fan of the 100. Simply put, it's just a well designed rifle. Solid and simple.....everything you need and nothing you dont. I also love the handsome one piece stock. Gives the rifle a classic look. The model 100 and 88 are certainly under valued and under appreciated. Fabulous woods rifle to be sure.
My grandfather had a 100 it would jam
i would love to do a side-by-side comparison of the Win. 100 and the H&R 360. The 100 is essentially a long-stroke gas piston, and the H&R is a short-stroke. But they are very similar rifles, even visually. I do love my H&R 360 tho.
Mine has the checkering just like your “88”, with a Vortex scope, it’s a keeper, for me, got real lucky 🍀, had my Guardian Angel watching over me. 🙏👍🏼🤠
Absolutely TW - guardian angel; a never sell for sure. Some have all the luck : )
1963 model 100 in 284 and in great condition. Also have a 1964 model 100 In 308
Perfect
Excellent video. I have no experience with the model 100s. I’d love to find a carbine in .243, one of my favorite calibers.
Hi Kenneth - so hard to find! And you can see I had a superb one - and then a friend had to have it - now I'm back to square one: looking for a 100 in .243 - the best cal. for this rifle and action IMHO
I own a model 88 Winchester in .284 caliber. Now after watching this video I want a matching model 100. I liked your comment that guns are a good investment. They keep going up in price all right. But here in Canada there's a lot of unrest and distrust in the federal gov't with the threat of much stiffer firearms laws and banning handguns completely and all assault looking rifles and all semi-auto rifles. So very possibly our investment on these types and possibly more would turn to a bad investment. Canadians don't have a 2nd Amendment. Hell, Canada doesn't even have a constitution.
Pretty soon the Liberals and their dimwit NDP partners in crime will ban ALL semi-autos. It's coming!
Inherited the Model 100 from my grandpa when he died. Love shooting it, never had an issue with its accuracy. Only issue was the clip. But that was an easy fix.
Such a gret legacy your grandpa left for you. Those 100s are simply fantastic.
I also inherited one from my grandpa when he died. Its worth more than its weight it gold to me.
At 8:30 you remove the magazine but the action remains open. I have the 308 rifle version and it needs the magazine to lock open the action. Is there a difference between the carbine model and rifle version that allows the bolt to stay open without the magazine being in place?
Great review
I seem to remember way back in the 90's that Winchester advised people to not shoot their model 100's...something about a potential for catastrophic failure. At the time I don't even think they would repair them. Maybe they came up with a fix, but I suppose people should check to see if their model 100 is safe to shoot.
Yes, at first they said never shoot them and would not fix them, but after a huge uproar , they agreed to fix them, the firing pin breaks and they slam fire on an open chamber , which blows them in two, had it happen to my wife's gun , there is a small stamp they put on them, few people know if it and they are very dangerous to shoot
I have one on .308, excellent shooter..I have been tempted to sell it few times but I decided to keep it..they are rare to find and they are usually around 550 -650 and I have seen some for 700 dollars..
Hi Frank - good rifle to keep - they seem to be steadily going up and were undervalued for awhile. The 88 and 100 were, and are, excellent rifles.
I call my M100 my civilian M-14. It's in 308 and it kinda feels like the old M-14. I shoot mine off of open sights rather like I did my Vietnam M-14. Four shots is enough and it shoots hard. Nice.
I agree - great semis - those 100s.
I have a pair of the Winchester 100. They were my grand parents hunting rifles. Still havent fired them because I'm waiting on replacement firing pins due to the recall.
Have you had a problem with double firing?
Hi Heliarc - Nice that you have the 100 X 2. I've owned a few 100s - some had the pin replacement and some didn't; I never had any problem of any kind with any of them. I only have a .284 carbine now - and I took it shooting about 3 weeks ago - no problems of any kind and surprisinlgy accurate. I guess I should check to see if it the pin has been changed. I hope you have a chance to shoot the 100s you have soon. All the best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I cleaned and mainly oiled them a few weeks ago but, at the time didnt know what I was looking for in regards to after market firing pins.
They tend to double if (1) fired from the bench and (2) the shooter is wearing padded clothing.
@@jamesreese1999 They will slam fire, no matter how you hold them my wifes done it while shooting at a deer, it blew the gun in two, and parts flew all over, if they slam fire on a still open chamber it will cut the gun in half
The 100 has and aluminum gas system and if you store your rifle for long periods it can stick and the bolt won't move. But its and easy fix with a punch and a piece of wood.
Thanks for the know-how
Inherited mine from my grandfather took my first three deer with it including an 11pt. You would have to pry it from my cold dead fingers. God bless the USA. Thanks for the great content.
I have seen a pre 64 model 100 with the pressed checkering.
You have to check the serial number to know the date of manufacturing.
Thanks Michael!
Own one, 308, Mint, Love it.
Bravo Randy! Almost impossible to find now.
Have any issues with it? I have the chance to pick one up in .308 but am having my doubts.
I purchased mine new in 1972...dump the scope and the goofy see through rings...it's made to snap shoot with and hit a target in less than 2 seconds, it's not a target riffle
I have a mod 100 308 cal has been sent back for recall I need a stock mine is busted along rite side of forarn on top against barrel has sliver missing gun was grand fathers I would love to get it shooting and looking gd again
You will - there are replacement stocks on line - quite nice I might add and reasonably priced.
There's an outfit that sells laminated stocks for the Model 100. I could not find that site again but this one can supply just about all your Model 100 needs. www.nulineguns.com/category_part_64_2_21_64.php
I like the scope! I like the rifle also.
I have lost my front sight completely. Looking for an aftermarket replacement. What is the height from the barrel to the top of the bead. It had a very small bead originally.
Hi Michael - I don't know off hand but I measure from the center line of the bore to the U of the rear sight - that has to be the same distance as from the center line of the bore to the bead of the front sight. Hope this helps.
I have a dark wish that..sometimes i wish AR-15’s and AK-47’s didnt exist. Because SO MANY SHOOTERS, young and old miss out on such classics.
That's a sharp observation. Thx
Do you by chance know any hi cap mag fits Browning Bar? Someone mentioned FNAR mag is compatible. Do you know anything of any possible compatibility mag in this regard? Thanks.
Nice ! This is what I want now !! Thanks
Hope you get one soon - awesome.
I got one for my birthday, and it doesn't have the barrel band, does that mean it's a later model? I know it was only in production for 11-12 years. Just curious.
Excellent review
Thank you David!
I have a small collection of functional .22 rifles. Have made some costly mistaken purchases of .22's and larger caliber bolt rifles ( wallet says OUCH ! ). I just did not know what to look gor. Could you please help with a list of what to look for / how to inspect a rifle at a gun show so people like me to lessen the chances of purchasing a non-firing wall-hanger ? Thank you !
Do you have a review on the Winchester model 77 .22 caliber and other model Winchester .22's ?
Just found one in my local Pawn Shop (500+) perfect condition, appears hardly used. Think I lucked out, nice semi auto 308, to partner with my Ruger American, bolt action. Need to find a long range to put against each other. 👍🏼🤠
Bravo - great buy! I love your idea! Please make a TH-cam video. My 100 in .284 beats some of my bolt actions - I wonder how the American will do against your 100 in .308.
9:35] "I'm not even sure if Pentax still offers scopes." I think they stopped in about 2014 and continued on with spotting scopes and binos for a while after that.
Thanks William!
Great rifle, write Winchester with your serial number for the updated, recalled firing pin parts.
That is the only issue I have ever had with mine. I got it from my uncle, he hunted all his larger game with it, when I got it and found the information about the firing pin, I immediately checked it, then wrote Winchester, got a replacement in the mail, has been superb for me, as it was for him.
When you send old firing pin in , the lady will then send you a new one .
Hello and than you for the information on the Winchester Model 100. I have the .308 carbine version with the 19" barrel, was there a recommend bullet weight? I believe the twist rate is 1/12 for this model I could be misinformed. Any experience with ammo info would be appreciated.
Hello efrain - I have the same carbine 100 in .308. Mine shoots 150 grain Winchester perfectly and accurately. Hope these work for you as well. Doesn't have to be Winchester - try Federal of Remington or any; I just happened to have Winchester ammo and it worked so well and is so accurate - I stuck with it.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you very much for the time you take to give knowledge and care of these old rifles.
There are a couple flaws with this rifle. I have a .243 with the basket weave made around 1967 that was given to me as my first rifle by my grandpa. Out of my entire collection, this rifle means the most to me and I can't wait for my son to shoot a deer with it. There was a firing pin recall on these early models that Winchester still honors. The biggest problem with this rifle is the extractor and it's a common problem. Mine has this issue and I'm still trying to sort it out. Another issue is if the trigger guard screws ever start to loosen and the bolt closes over it, it is a huge deal to get it back to working condition. Always check these screws when you're cleaning.
Thank you Joey - Hopefully everyone will read your post.
I'm thinking about selling a couple of modern guns to get this old collectible rifle I have several hundred 308 rounds loaded to relatively high capacity and pressures similar to an AR-10 do I have to be concerned about the pressures I load my 308 rounds too with these semi-automatic rifles or as long as I stay within Sami spec ill be ok