I agree, the front end of the last gen Accord 2018-2022 was top tier. Timeless and elegant. I dislike the new front end on the civic and accord. Doesn’t flow with the rest of the car well imo.
I think this new version is one of the most boring car models currently being offered by any brand. The last two accords look better than this current gen.
There is no reason at all Honda should still be raising the price every year!!! They are literally trying to price their consumers out the market! This car is a darn disappointment!
for the current Accord prices, it should feel more special. I laugh when I think someone at Honda thought painting the front side air inlets different colors "= tusks" was a great design choice. Same on the CRV.
One big reason why i stopped considering Honda is when i realised the lack interior colour options in their vehicles. They make everything come with nothing but fully black interiors except on some Touring trims in which lighter interior option is available, forcing you to buy the most expensive trim if you don’t want an all black interior. Very disappointing!
Yes, and on the Civic the exterior colors don't always work with the light interior- which is only on the top trim are you said. You can't get a light gray exterior with a light gray interior!? It's very limiting.
For the Accord and CRV, their gray options are even extremely limited and not appealing. In the CRV with gray interior, only the seat face is gray but NOTHING else - everything else is black. And black interiors are all monotone - no variation in the black tones. The Accord is better, but only a bit. And very few exterior color options pair with a gray interior. This is a misjudgement IMO and stinks of cost cutting. Honda should also bring back a parchment or tan interior color option.
@@Charleywex That's the plan and we know it. They need to consider maximizing safety benefits for BOTH Honda AND Acura and AWD should be an option on Hondas (standard on Touring). Regarding Acura, it's a step up from Honda, but it's not up to Lexus or Genesis level luxury. It doesn't look, feel, or smell luxurious like the competitors. Acura seems like a more expensive Honda inside.
@@Charleywex I drive a '13 TL Shawd and It is the best handling car I've ever owned. But won't do the 2.0t on RDX/TLX.. Waiting for next gen. CX5 Hybrid or Rav4 Prime. Both coming next year (2026 models hopefully).
To be fair, I don't think there's much Honda could have done with Accord to sales what they used to be. HOWEVER, it seems like they tried to make this generation as bland as possible to appeal to as many people as possible. As a current 2014 Accord V6 coupe owner, id never buy this gen Accord.
Spot on as usual. I drove a 2024 Accord Hybrid and the 25 Camry. Tha Honda is a fantastic sedan. But the Camry offered more standard features. Cost much less. I also agree on the style and design. The cabin may be a little bit better in the Accord. The overall aesthetics on the Camry are more attractive. IMO. I did get the Camry.
Accord has outperformed the camry year after year, last waaayyy longer with less repairs....I'm not a fan of some off this but honda all the way for coupes and sedans
I can’t stand the fact that it has fixed rear headrests and only one map pocket behind the passenger front seat! It drives me crazy!! These are features that my 7th gen has plus hood struts plus a very nice camel interior color. I just finished watching a review of the Australian Accord and it has the adjustable back headrests and two map pockets instead of one plus adjustable interior ambient lighting plus sun blinds for the rear seats and a panoramic sunroof. However, I much prefer the dashboard layout of the American Accord than the Australian, as the latter’s instrument cluster is just a free standing screen (which to me looks incredibly silly) whereas the American model has a proper housing for the instrument cluster.
I liked the looks of most years of Accord ... until last few years when they added too many angles and lines. They lost their elegance and look cheesy to me.
The 23 Accord EX-L has rear vents and USB ports. I have one so I'm sure. I agree the price increases on the Accord are just too high. Cost is already up almost $3000 over my 23 Accord.
I hope the Camry doesn’t end up being the only one in the segment just like the Crown is the only one left in its segment but it looks like it’s heading that way
No more engine power or panoramic roof and so close to the Hybrid Civic power band, the accord isn’t worth it compared to the Camry. Honda should do more with power and AWD.
I don’t like the design and body style anyway . I am loyal a to Honda for 30 years, but now I’m leaving the brand because theirs design ugly and cheap…please design Accord like the Civic… I will come back😢
Kirk, This is welcome news. It would be 'great' news if Honda made a mainstream sedan with rear seat headroom as generous as front seat headroom. It would be SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUS if they brought back the Accord wagon.🤯🤯 When it comes to today's crop of coupe-sedans, the Camry LE AWD remains the obvious choice. 🤩
I'd love a wagon too. But I believe part of the problem with current Accord platform (last gen and this one) are that they kept the same roofline height as the Civic - they just made it slightly longer and wider. For a family sedan, it should be easier to enter/exit and sit upright. Even kids get tall.
@@chrissetina1107 Amen! Accord and Civic are class leaders in rear seat legroom but they forgot to include a place for rear passengers over 5'8" to put their heads!!!!! No mainstream company makes a truly practical sedan anymore. Sales of low-slung, coupe-sedans keep plummeting as a result of their misguided focus on 'swoopiness'. It is only the six figure, luxury brands that retain the traditional, rational, boxy sedan profile but most of us don't have six figures to spend. No wonder practical people are buying CUVs. Other than huge 'mini' vans, we don't have an alternative. 😡
Camry remains the king and class leader of mid size sedans unchallenged.👑🤴👑. Meanwhile the Accord keep dying a painful and miserable death ☠️💀☠️. Very soon only mid size sedan Will be left is the Camry. just maybe the sonata or k5 might survive .
I don't think Honda thinks they need to be competitive. They think their brand is so strong and every vehicle they make is sold to a current Honda owner.
Well, they failed there as well. I’m on my 6th Accord and I’ve no interest in this product. Not saying the 11th gen has been a failure, just not interested in what became of the model in this iteration.
@@MidnightAspec As a non-Honda owner, the 10th gen model looked great and I loved the 2.0 turbo AWD model. I think they're very pretty cars especially in white. The new one, I don't really like. Mechanicals are way worse imo, small turbo engines and CVT's and it looks like a fake Audi. I'm not a fan of it at all.
@@SomeOne_86 there was no AWD version of the 2.0T powertrain unless you opted for a TLX. I have a 16 V6 Touring, which is my favorite sedan version of the Accord.
i had an Accord as a loaner recently I assume it was one of the 2.0T models and the entry level side. That dash board had the cheapest black plastic I have ever seen in a $30k+ car. Even felt cheap! The Camry is also better looking than the polarizing Accord! The Accord looks like an old man car!
Yeah I agree I also live up north and just trade in my 2010 Nissan Altima with 280,000 mi for a 2021 Altima with 20,000 MI! The main reason I got it was for the exterior styling interior styling all-wheel drive and they pretty much redid the motor and transmission numerous times from my 2010 model! Just an all around upgrade! I didn't realize how much I actually wanted all-wheel drive and how much a deal-breaker not having it actually is! It's a little down on horsepower compared to the Camry but still a very torquey motor and gets the job done with very little effort! In my opinion Asian vehicles are the best! Everybody that I know that has a modern American vehicle they're all having issues!
@@TaureanSmoke How much did you get for your Altima trade in if you don't mind me asking. I recently traded a 2015 Civic with 66K miles in need of about $1,500 cosmetic work and I got $10,000 for it.
@@mikeb3216 No it's no problem so the issue is the used dealer market and the used consumer market are two different things! I traded in my 2010 Altima with 280,000 mi to the used dealer market and they only gave me $500! I think that's a combination of things a it's harder for them to move a newer Nissan so getting an older Nissan is a little scary for them I assume! Had I traded it in on the used consumer market I probably could have gotten $3,000 for it! But my predicament was I'm not trying to wait a couple months to sell my car for somebody to come to my house and finally buy it I needed to get rid of it right then and there because I just wanted a new car I haven't had a car payment for 10 years and I realized I pretty much drove all of my value out of the car already I should have traded it in years ago! But the problems with it is it needs work probably about the same work your car needed the engine is perfectly fine the transmission is perfectly fine it's just all the other stuff, suspension, brakes, New tint on the back windshield because somebody decided that they were going to take the tent off for me and didn't tell me that they weren't qualified and before they tried so my back windshield looks like ass! But the main issue is my AC went out again I literally spent $1,600 2 years ago on the AC at Belle tire I don't think they knew what they were doing because now my AC went out again in the peak of summer and that's when I decided I'm done with this car! What really did it was I realized all the work I'm putting into the car is literally a down payment for a new car and then some! So for my new 2021 Altima the second I'm done paying it off I'll probably just get a brand new one whatever year that would be and then keep that one for a while! Some people might say I got fucked but at the end of the day I didn't have AC and it's 85° outside everyday so to me buying the new car was better for me plus it'll be a nice little credit boost! But now I see my problem is the mileage I will always have a trade-in with high miles because I drive way too much! So I don't really think I'll ever be able to get a trade-in with the maximum value it seems like you did pretty good though!
The Camry dwarfs the accord been that way for awhile now. The accord is still a good car but it’s just become mediocre now and o never thought I would see Honda struggle to sell an accord
@@shazechase7416 no not really if you re read your consumer reports you will see the Camry has a better reliability record overall. I like the accord and it’s a good car but the Camry is a hair better hence why the accord is way behind it now
@@shazechase7416 looks don’t matter bub I’ve had my 2013 Camry since 18 April 13 runs like a top takes road trips the accord is not the car it used to be that’s why you’re struggling with sales which like you I never thought that would happen. Hopefully Honda will get back on track I hate to be the reporter of bad news but I shoot straight with facts lol.
@@Modeltrainscarsstereos614 there's literally reports you can look up online straight shooter...sorry to bust your fan boy bubble. I don't even like this car I'm just stating truth
I've commented before regarding my Touring 2.0T. My vehicle came with all the interior goodies Kirk mentioned (rear vents and USB were already installed via dealer accessories). The thing that I definitely want and I don't understand why it isn't on my car is AWD and a heated steering wheel. Those should be standard and not being standard makes no sense in this age of automobiles. Regarding the "New 2025," Honda still isn't listening. That new body of the Accord is too boring to be considered. Honda NEEDS to completely redesign this car. I don't understand how the Civic kept its looks and DNA and Honda converted the Accord into a four-wheeled Lego block. The Accord is a boring, vanilla, uninspired vehicle. Every time I roll up to a new Accord and look at the new DRLs that were changed from the sexy wrap-around swoop to that straight-line look I am reminded of how bad it must be to drive that bland overpriced hunk of junk. Honda, enough, either kill the Accord or give it a new life because you ruined your own sweet-spot product and you're losing ground rapidly to Toyota and Mazda.
@@Moondoggy1941 so far, yes. But Honda at least pulled 2012 production, and heavily revised the 2013's soft panels (headlights, bumpers, tail lights), reworked the engine programming for more power, added insulation, and altered the suspension. The 2025 Accord was probably too late to adjust much. Maybe the 2026 Accord will get slightly more, once the Camry BF's it in sales.
@@chrissetina1107 The 2012 Honda Civic and the Subaru 2009 WRX OMG LOL are missing links. Both manufactures only gave it one year. I have owned two Civics, both commuter cars. I am looking at a 2024 Hatchback hopefully with the manual in blue. I would only lease a Accord with a give away price.
Honda SHOULD have reviewed Camry Specs and TRIED To be atleast competitive. Painting those ugly LX wheels and adding 2 features...not enough. Accord will lag behind.
I agree the 1.5T drive train is a crappy one. If they were going to discontinue the 2.0T they should made the Accord hybrid only. It’s better, simpler, more reliable drivetrain with way better fuel economy.
2013 Honda Accord EX here. And I have rear AC vents. Can't believe they take something away just to re-introduce it again later and call it a new feature. New Accord is so boring looking. I'm an Accord person and even I would take the new Camry over the new Accord. Camry looks so slick and their hybrid system is very exciting to me.
But when you move to higher trims there is not much difference in price..accord ex-l is 35k which is the same as Camry XLE for very similar equipment..so if no price difference for a higher trim, which is the better choice?
Too little too late. The Camry IS better than the Accord in both features and value. Honda cannot add eAWD. They can't even make it cheaper. They simply run off their reliable reputation, but there's 0 reason to get an Accord over the Camry. Honda has lost their way.
@@chhoylai doubt that. You mean the best looking Camry is better looking than the worst looking accord which is this current generation,but definitely not better looking than the previous generation accord.
@@chhoyla not even close. Fit and finish on a Honda is world's better. The looks are more sophisticated and mature. A Honda is way more reliable especially as of late. There is better resale with a Honda. A Honda is a drivers car by far.
In Canada - we did not get the HYBRID Sonata - Hyundai said the "hybrid Elantra" (only sold in top trim here as well) - is what competes very closely with the Accord and Camry. My heavens - the base Elantra complain for years has been people saying "no rear vents or plug ins" (it does have under seat ones for folks back there - it just not redirected to vents). In any case Hyundai pointed out the interior measurements and particularly "up front" the darn Elantra is very ... very close and substantially less than the Sonata hybrid would be - deluxe trim, $1000s less, still not a bad bad seat area - but how important for most folks.
I won’t even get into the styling and quality…. (Sat in ONE of these and haven’t looked back, speaking as an owner of a 2018 Sport with two previous bought-new Hondas dating back to my first new car in 2006, I’ll sum it up by saying I’ve been disappointed in the build quality of every current generation Honda I’ve sat in). Honda’s recent decisions on the trim walk and color options are just plain awful. We’ve now reached a point where everything is just a “Sport” model with a different package. And of course the price on the “Sport” models is jacked up because it’s a “Sport”. “We got rid of the LX and replaced it with a Sport LX for $1500 more. It just adds big wheels and a tighter suspension to ruin your fuel economy and ride quality so you can pay more to feel sporty.” (Sorry, I know that rant really isn’t relevant to this video because that’s not actually what they did with the SE model, but it’s not far off the mark and I just needed to get it off my chest). When I bought my 2006 Civic there were three trims; DX, LX, and EX. The DX had manual everything; No power door locks, windows, etc. The LX added the power features, and the EX added a split folding rear seat, alloy wheels, and a sunroof. A few years after I got it they added the EX-L because people wanted a Civic with leather seats; It was just an EX with leather seats. I get that the DX wouldn’t fly in today’s market, and the market does demand the availability of more premium options such as HUD, but as time goes on Honda just keeps removing the less expensive trims and adding higher priced trims to the top of the trim walk, with no consideration given to lower priced options. (And then, yeah, they “Sport”-ify everything to squeeze a bit more money out by stroking peoples’ exotic sports car fantasies with a “Sport” trim, so we end up with an LX, Sport, Sport-L, and Sport Touring at the end of the day). I really wish Someone would take the time to rebalance the trim walk and actually make it practical for the average owner. Make some trims without low profile tires. Give us some interior color options other than Black. Make the base trim basic again, and less expensive. And most of all, fix the build quality issues and hire back whoever designed the 10th gen cars to design whatever comes next because that generation was amazing, and this generation just looks like early 2000s Ford.
That was longer than I intended, but it felt good. All these automakers have the same problem, especially the Japanese ones, but I don’t want to write another novel right now so that’s a rant for another day.
Civic and integra need rear vents and usbc too on all models this is mandatory. Integra needs hybrid standard with eawd option. Manual option in integra a spec AWD hybrid
I used to buy Accords, I drove the new accord a few times and didn’t like it at all and I finally just bought my first Camry, the 2025 XLE. I’m happy with everything but the color that shows everything, reservoir blue.
The Camry is without a doubt the better buy ALL around… it beats the Accord everywhere you look. The styling on the Accord is very outdated looks horrible, come on Honda you can do much better! As far as pricing Honda is wayyyyyy too expensive!
The 11th gen accord is disappointing for a lot of reasons but I think they look far better than the generic Japanese sedan that was the 10th gen. Maybe people just don't like big designs but the only exterior gripe I agree with is the taillights look very cheaply done. But how many more expensive models don't have full LED taillights and LED turn signals.
“How the mighty fall” is the only thing that comes to mind. I’ve owned three different generations-98, 04, 06, and 14-and loved each. I’ve driven a couple of 10th gens and really enjoyed them. This 11th gen, even after a refresh, is grossly disappointing and lackluster. As illogical as this may sound, it almost seems that they’re intentionally sending the car toward discontinuation.
How bout no 360* camera! It’s an absolute miss for such a large car. I have a 19 accord sport 2.0 and keep worrying about hitting the bumper on parking blocks or curbs. Why is this standard just like rear vents.
@@drevondavis3351 Respectfully, you may think you do just fine. You may park like crap (car sticking out 1 ft out of the parking spot or parallel park 1 ft from the curb that's why you don't worry) because no one has told you. The Accord's competition have it at or around the same price point. Honda continues to omit or require you choose an upper trim level for whatever reason. Just hope they aren't truly forcing their buyers to go up to Acura to get these missing features.
Improvements are nice, but the exterior design is still probably the most boring design of any car currently on sale. And the pricing is atrocious. The hybrid starts more than $5k higher than a hybrid Camry. I can't imagine why anyone would buy this over a Civic or Camry.
honda keeps making the cars look cheaper and cheaper! all that black crap cheap trim and wheels looks like dirt. the accord looks like a late 90's base model while charging you for a touring. no thanks honda, you gonna learn soon when no one wants to buy your cars.
I laughed after, "I have great news for the Honda Accord." For what it's worth I generally enjoy Honda's driving dynamics better than Toyota's for sedans as Honda tends to create a bit sportier ride in my experience.
In the Southeast Toyota Dealer Network (don't get me started), the lower Camry base price is negated by the mandatory "port added" markup garbage even for domestically produced vehicles. If it weren't for SETD, I'd buy a Camry even though we love our '22 Accord hybrid. Been (im)patiently awaiting the Civic hybrid hatch. Had that been available in late 2018 instead of the Insight, that's what I'd be in now instead of the gas-version I currently drive.
This 11th gen Accord is still ugly. I tried to force myself to gravitate towards getting this over a 2022 Accord Sport but I just can’t. The front end is just absolutely awful
Friend of mine got the 2025 civic sport (non-hybrid) and as a 6’4”-6’5” guy, I actually fit comfortably in it and would probably take that or the new Camry over the current accord if I wanted a new car.
It drives me nuts how Honda and Toyota have the hard plastic at the top of the interior door. My 2006 Honda Civic has soft touch for front and rear doors at the top area.
The current Accord feels like a repeat of the 2012 Civic debacle. I doubt Honda is listening to its customers. More likely, they've received complaints from dealers about having to push the LX and EX with cash. The SE is just lipstick on a pig at this point. Honda is going to feel even more pressure from the new Camry over the next year as Marysville line consolidation is no longer an excuse for reduced sales. At the very least, they need to reconfigure the front and rear to add some personality, and improve the very dismal interior so its a better place to spend time.
@@arhamkhakwani5851 The 9th Gen civic launched for the 2012 model year but got ripped to shreds for it's interior materials, overall exterior design, etc. It was developed (according to Wikipedia) during the 2008 financial crisis so Honda thought consumers wouldn't mind the cost cutting because it was affordable and efficient. That ideology blew up in their face causing rivals to have an increase in sales, the Civic being removed from the recommended list on consumer reports, and Edmunds pointing out the car's flaws. For 2013 (next model year) Honda facelifted the Civic fixing most of the issues.
They need to redesign to make it easier to get in and out of. The roofline is too low. SUVs are popular because it's easy to get into and doesn't have a sloping roof. Chrysler made the same mistake, now Honda is well.
I was an Accord dude for multiple years. They lost me with the 18-22 Accord with the ugly rear end. The current generation looks like a Taurus in the front with Lincoln Aviator tail lamps.
Honda better come with some heat for 2026 which is supposed to be the refresh, Honda is so stingy with features and pricing it’s ridiculous. But I’m not going to count them out because they redesign the accord every 4 years.
Camry FTW and it's not even close. Frankly, Honda's own CIVIC is a much better proposition than the Accord at this point. Honda needs to fast-track the next generation Accord and bring their pricing in line with the competition.
Civic and Camry were slowly killing the Accord. Now Honda delivered the final blow. Sad. I'm a happy Civic owner and would definitely buy new hybrid one. Imho, Honda desperately needs hybrid HR-V. I'd happily buy it when I get old.
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Anyone else not like the front design compared to the last version. I have a 2019 and I like it wayyyy more
tbh I like the new one, it's a bit sporty while staying lp
I agree, the front end of the last gen Accord 2018-2022 was top tier. Timeless and elegant. I dislike the new front end on the civic and accord. Doesn’t flow with the rest of the car well imo.
I really like the version you have, I like the side door swoop, the new Accord looks exactly like a Jetta, the lights are too small.
Nah old was overstyled always thought that gen was ugly same with old civic 2015-2020 was hondas worst era imo but ik thats unpopular
I think this new version is one of the most boring car models currently being offered by any brand. The last two accords look better than this current gen.
I choose the Camry over the Accord because they offered one with 16 inch rims. More tire between the rim and road means less pot hole blow outs.
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Lol you must not live in the Midwest...
@@meds-7923 lol
Sidewall RULES!!!! Soon these mendacious automakers will be charging extra for it.
I mean if you like the accord more and the tire is the only that's bugging u, that's the easiest thing to replace on a car.
There is no reason at all Honda should still be raising the price every year!!! They are literally trying to price their consumers out the market! This car is a darn disappointment!
I’ll wait for a re design for the Accord
2026 more than likely, if they don't kill it off and make the Civic bigger. That's going to happen, folks want four door SUV's over sedans, sadly.
@@teamhonzilla and another price hike most likely in 2026
2026-2027 is the face lift.
2028 is the complete redesign
@@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall Good point, 3 year of said Gen then facelift year 4 and 5. Rise and Repeat.
@@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall thats if they don’t kill it off for bad sales
I prefer my 2021 Honda Accord 2.0T Sport. Better looking and better engine.
Those were the most important things to me in high school too.
Fr. I think the accord is useless now without the 2.0
What a disappointment, and too expensive. Will do little for sales as long as Camry is killing it.
Camry is expensive as well
@@damionmandy7978 camry starts at 28k
for the current Accord prices, it should feel more special. I laugh when I think someone at Honda thought painting the front side air inlets different colors "= tusks" was a great design choice. Same on the CRV.
Almost like inflation exists
@@damionmandy7978 Camry has an AWD option and a far better interior. Hard to believe for a Toyota, but the Accord interior looks feels cheap AF!!
One big reason why i stopped considering Honda is when i realised the lack interior colour options in their vehicles. They make everything come with nothing but fully black interiors except on some Touring trims in which lighter interior option is available, forcing you to buy the most expensive trim if you don’t want an all black interior. Very disappointing!
Yes, and on the Civic the exterior colors don't always work with the light interior- which is only on the top trim are you said. You can't get a light gray exterior with a light gray interior!? It's very limiting.
For the Accord and CRV, their gray options are even extremely limited and not appealing. In the CRV with gray interior, only the seat face is gray but NOTHING else - everything else is black. And black interiors are all monotone - no variation in the black tones. The Accord is better, but only a bit. And very few exterior color options pair with a gray interior. This is a misjudgement IMO and stinks of cost cutting. Honda should also bring back a parchment or tan interior color option.
They want you to buy an Acura for the best AWD system that is in production. They don't want to put something like SH-AWD on a Honda
@@Charleywex That's the plan and we know it. They need to consider maximizing safety benefits for BOTH Honda AND Acura and AWD should be an option on Hondas (standard on Touring). Regarding Acura, it's a step up from Honda, but it's not up to Lexus or Genesis level luxury. It doesn't look, feel, or smell luxurious like the competitors. Acura seems like a more expensive Honda inside.
@@Charleywex I drive a '13 TL Shawd and It is the best handling car I've ever owned. But won't do the 2.0t on RDX/TLX.. Waiting for next gen. CX5 Hybrid or Rav4 Prime. Both coming next year (2026 models hopefully).
Honda is out of control with the price increase and cut costing and cheaping out
Seems Honda is pushing Accord buyers to the Civic or Camry
Looks exactly like last years model.....can you say BLAND
So did they camry before 2025
To be fair, I don't think there's much Honda could have done with Accord to sales what they used to be. HOWEVER, it seems like they tried to make this generation as bland as possible to appeal to as many people as possible. As a current 2014 Accord V6 coupe owner, id never buy this gen Accord.
A V6 Coupe would be nice! Why is Honda neglecting us??
Honda went nuts with pricing. Too bad. I like their hybrids.
In Saudi arabia the civic sport is almost 43k can you believe that
@@nullravager yeah. Hard pass
@@nullravager
FYI, a Civic costs about $126K USD in Singapore.
@@holmiumh how much does a Corolla cost?
@holmiumh I forgot about the extrordinary prices in sg, why is that??
Spot on as usual.
I drove a 2024 Accord Hybrid and the 25 Camry. Tha Honda is a fantastic sedan. But the Camry offered more standard features. Cost much less. I also agree on the style and design. The cabin may be a little bit better in the Accord. The overall aesthetics on the Camry are more attractive. IMO.
I did get the Camry.
I would have done the same, much better car. The Honda is actually ugly too.
Me too Camry
😂😂😂@@byhsu6140
@@byhsu6140But it's functional
Accord has outperformed the camry year after year, last waaayyy longer with less repairs....I'm not a fan of some off this but honda all the way for coupes and sedans
I can’t stand the fact that it has fixed rear headrests and only one map pocket behind the passenger front seat! It drives me crazy!! These are features that my 7th gen has plus hood struts plus a very nice camel interior color. I just finished watching a review of the Australian Accord and it has the adjustable back headrests and two map pockets instead of one plus adjustable interior ambient lighting plus sun blinds for the rear seats and a panoramic sunroof. However, I much prefer the dashboard layout of the American Accord than the Australian, as the latter’s instrument cluster is just a free standing screen (which to me looks incredibly silly) whereas the American model has a proper housing for the instrument cluster.
I liked the looks of most years of Accord ... until last few years when they added too many angles and lines. They lost their elegance and look cheesy to me.
The 23 Accord EX-L has rear vents and USB ports. I have one so I'm sure. I agree the price increases on the Accord are just too high. Cost is already up almost $3000 over my 23 Accord.
Nobody wants this when they can get a civic hybrid
Interesting. Toyota is normally more expensive than Honda. Honda must be building up their war chest to build their EV infrastructure
Until they give us AWD and 40 more horsepower, they didn’t give us shit. Enter Camry.
Acura?
@@Jdnicks00That's another segment.
@@Jdnicks00Acura TLX has less interior space than both the Accord and Camry. It’s a weird vehicle.
I hope the Camry doesn’t end up being the only one in the segment just like the Crown is the only one left in its segment but it looks like it’s heading that way
Huh? I guess you and others haven’t noticed that the Camry is still slower in the real world.
So LX Accord (non-hybrid) is more expensive than Camry LE? Ridiculous
No more engine power or panoramic roof and so close to the Hybrid Civic power band, the accord isn’t worth it compared to the Camry. Honda should do more with power and AWD.
Those prices, you might as well get the CR-V
That's what I ended up doing. The Accord didn't make sense after it was all said and done.
I don’t like the design and body style anyway . I am loyal a to Honda for 30 years, but now I’m leaving the brand because theirs design ugly and cheap…please design Accord like the Civic… I will come back😢
Meh, the last car was way better looking. The Civic is way better looking.
Kirk, This is welcome news. It would be 'great' news if Honda made a mainstream sedan with rear seat headroom as generous as front seat headroom. It would be SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUS if they brought back the Accord wagon.🤯🤯 When it comes to today's crop of coupe-sedans, the Camry LE AWD remains
the obvious choice. 🤩
I'd love a wagon too. But I believe part of the problem with current Accord platform (last gen and this one) are that they kept the same roofline height as the Civic - they just made it slightly longer and wider. For a family sedan, it should be easier to enter/exit and sit upright. Even kids get tall.
@@chrissetina1107 Amen! Accord and Civic are class leaders in rear seat legroom but they forgot to include a place for rear passengers over 5'8" to put their heads!!!!! No mainstream company makes a truly practical sedan anymore. Sales of low-slung, coupe-sedans keep plummeting as a result of their misguided focus on 'swoopiness'. It is only the six figure, luxury brands that retain the traditional, rational, boxy sedan profile but most of us don't have six figures to spend. No wonder practical people are buying CUVs. Other than huge 'mini' vans, we don't have an alternative. 😡
Does the 2025 Accord Hybrid come with a spare tire? 🤔 The 2025 Camry does…
I love that! I bought a new Camry 5 weeks ago.
Camry remains the king and class leader of mid size sedans unchallenged.👑🤴👑. Meanwhile the Accord keep dying a painful and miserable death ☠️💀☠️. Very soon only mid size sedan Will be left is the Camry. just maybe the sonata or k5 might survive .
My 1990 Civic had rear air conditioning vents.
Wow how old are you?
plus you get 30 more horsepower with the Camry, team Camry for me!
So basically its still ugly?
I don't think Honda thinks they need to be competitive. They think their brand is so strong and every vehicle they make is sold to a current Honda owner.
Well, they failed there as well. I’m on my 6th Accord and I’ve no interest in this product. Not saying the 11th gen has been a failure, just not interested in what became of the model in this iteration.
@@MidnightAspec As a non-Honda owner, the 10th gen model looked great and I loved the 2.0 turbo AWD model. I think they're very pretty cars especially in white. The new one, I don't really like. Mechanicals are way worse imo, small turbo engines and CVT's and it looks like a fake Audi. I'm not a fan of it at all.
@@SomeOne_86 there was no AWD version of the 2.0T powertrain unless you opted for a TLX. I have a 16 V6 Touring, which is my favorite sedan version of the Accord.
i had an Accord as a loaner recently I assume it was one of the 2.0T models and the entry level side. That dash board had the cheapest black plastic I have ever seen in a $30k+ car. Even felt cheap! The Camry is also better looking than the polarizing Accord! The Accord looks like an old man car!
For a daily errand runner up here in the north, the AWD Hybrid Corolla😩 works just fine, especially for thousands less.
Yeah I agree I also live up north and just trade in my 2010 Nissan Altima with 280,000 mi for a 2021 Altima with 20,000 MI! The main reason I got it was for the exterior styling interior styling all-wheel drive and they pretty much redid the motor and transmission numerous times from my 2010 model! Just an all around upgrade! I didn't realize how much I actually wanted all-wheel drive and how much a deal-breaker not having it actually is! It's a little down on horsepower compared to the Camry but still a very torquey motor and gets the job done with very little effort! In my opinion Asian vehicles are the best! Everybody that I know that has a modern American vehicle they're all having issues!
@@TaureanSmoke How much did you get for your Altima trade in if you don't mind me asking. I recently traded a 2015 Civic with 66K miles in need of about $1,500 cosmetic work and I got $10,000 for it.
@@mikeb3216 No it's no problem so the issue is the used dealer market and the used consumer market are two different things! I traded in my 2010 Altima with 280,000 mi to the used dealer market and they only gave me $500! I think that's a combination of things a it's harder for them to move a newer Nissan so getting an older Nissan is a little scary for them I assume! Had I traded it in on the used consumer market I probably could have gotten $3,000 for it! But my predicament was I'm not trying to wait a couple months to sell my car for somebody to come to my house and finally buy it I needed to get rid of it right then and there because I just wanted a new car I haven't had a car payment for 10 years and I realized I pretty much drove all of my value out of the car already I should have traded it in years ago! But the problems with it is it needs work probably about the same work your car needed the engine is perfectly fine the transmission is perfectly fine it's just all the other stuff, suspension, brakes, New tint on the back windshield because somebody decided that they were going to take the tent off for me and didn't tell me that they weren't qualified and before they tried so my back windshield looks like ass! But the main issue is my AC went out again I literally spent $1,600 2 years ago on the AC at Belle tire I don't think they knew what they were doing because now my AC went out again in the peak of summer and that's when I decided I'm done with this car! What really did it was I realized all the work I'm putting into the car is literally a down payment for a new car and then some! So for my new 2021 Altima the second I'm done paying it off I'll probably just get a brand new one whatever year that would be and then keep that one for a while! Some people might say I got fucked but at the end of the day I didn't have AC and it's 85° outside everyday so to me buying the new car was better for me plus it'll be a nice little credit boost! But now I see my problem is the mileage I will always have a trade-in with high miles because I drive way too much! So I don't really think I'll ever be able to get a trade-in with the maximum value it seems like you did pretty good though!
AWD is not even available on the Accord.
@@michaelfoulkes9502 Sorry, l meant Civic. Thanks.
How do we get a "non-ugly" package? It needs it badly.
It makes less power than 6th 7th 8th 9th & 10th gen
only reason people will be buying these Accords is because Toyota dealerships dont have enough camrys. Camry is superior in EVERY WAY!
I just bought a new Camry and all dealers in Oklahoma had about 5-8 of them and it seems to be okay for now.
Still waiting for XM radio on the Accord
💀
I have it on my new accord
I meant I have XM on my new Camry
What Honda needs to do is make an entry-level Accord LX Hybrid to make the Hybrid model more affordable for consumers who want a Hybrid.
Who makes these ridiculous marketing decisions ?
The Camry dwarfs the accord been that way for awhile now. The accord is still a good car but it’s just become mediocre now and o never thought I would see Honda struggle to sell an accord
Lol look up repairs and Length of road life. The accord is the smarter buy but the camry is the better looking of the 2, I'll give you that.
@@shazechase7416 no not really if you re read your consumer reports you will see the Camry has a better reliability record overall. I like the accord and it’s a good car but the Camry is a hair better hence why the accord is way behind it now
@@shazechase7416 looks don’t matter bub I’ve had my 2013 Camry since 18 April 13 runs like a top takes road trips the accord is not the car it used to be that’s why you’re struggling with sales which like you I never thought that would happen. Hopefully Honda will get back on track I hate to be the reporter of bad news but I shoot straight with facts lol.
@@Modeltrainscarsstereos614 there's literally reports you can look up online straight shooter...sorry to bust your fan boy bubble. I don't even like this car I'm just stating truth
I've commented before regarding my Touring 2.0T. My vehicle came with all the interior goodies Kirk mentioned (rear vents and USB were already installed via dealer accessories). The thing that I definitely want and I don't understand why it isn't on my car is AWD and a heated steering wheel. Those should be standard and not being standard makes no sense in this age of automobiles. Regarding the "New 2025," Honda still isn't listening. That new body of the Accord is too boring to be considered. Honda NEEDS to completely redesign this car. I don't understand how the Civic kept its looks and DNA and Honda converted the Accord into a four-wheeled Lego block. The Accord is a boring, vanilla, uninspired vehicle. Every time I roll up to a new Accord and look at the new DRLs that were changed from the sexy wrap-around swoop to that straight-line look I am reminded of how bad it must be to drive that bland overpriced hunk of junk. Honda, enough, either kill the Accord or give it a new life because you ruined your own sweet-spot product and you're losing ground rapidly to Toyota and Mazda.
So Honda is doing the 2012 Civic again, just throw the minimum effort and say WaaLA
@@Moondoggy1941 so far, yes. But Honda at least pulled 2012 production, and heavily revised the 2013's soft panels (headlights, bumpers, tail lights), reworked the engine programming for more power, added insulation, and altered the suspension. The 2025 Accord was probably too late to adjust much. Maybe the 2026 Accord will get slightly more, once the Camry BF's it in sales.
@@chrissetina1107 The 2012 Honda Civic and the Subaru 2009 WRX OMG LOL are missing links. Both manufactures only gave it one year. I have owned two Civics, both commuter cars. I am looking at a 2024 Hatchback hopefully with the manual in blue. I would only lease a Accord with a give away price.
“Lego block”. Made me laugh.😂😂
Don't forget Hyundai and Kia, they want Honda for lunch.
I bought a base Camry for the fuel economy (50+) and solid reliability. Wish that the Accord was still competitive on these points.
Spoken by a true Toyota Fan boy.
So, more expensive than the Camry, but less power and mileage?
Not sure about 2024, but my wife's 2018 accord 2.0t Touring has rear AC vents.
I have a 2022 2.0T sport. That has rear vents too. Weird how some things are now considered premium
The hybrid Toyota Camry LE starts at $28,855. The Accord hybrid is overpriced, and has larger rims as well.
OMG, I don't know if Honda USA management just gave up the US market or not? All of their design sucks and over price.
Honda SHOULD have reviewed Camry Specs and TRIED To be atleast competitive. Painting those ugly LX wheels and adding 2 features...not enough. Accord will lag behind.
360 camera would be nice
i was expecting this for this year but nope..although I did hear the Accord Touring got a garage opener for 2025.
I agree the 1.5T drive train is a crappy one. If they were going to discontinue the 2.0T they should made the Accord hybrid only. It’s better, simpler, more reliable drivetrain with way better fuel economy.
Hybrids are not similar.
2013 Honda Accord EX here. And I have rear AC vents. Can't believe they take something away just to re-introduce it again later and call it a new feature. New Accord is so boring looking. I'm an Accord person and even I would take the new Camry over the new Accord. Camry looks so slick and their hybrid system is very exciting to me.
But when you move to higher trims there is not much difference in price..accord ex-l is 35k which is the same as Camry XLE for very similar equipment..so if no price difference for a higher trim, which is the better choice?
I will always say Honda. Hundreds of thousands of miles on accords with no issues. 2024 Tacoma in the shop 7 times in less than a year.
Camry
But I thought SE implies final year of a cycle. Hopefully this doesn’t mean discontinuation
I can honestly see them discontinuing the accord for the civic since the civic has gotten so big
Too little too late. The Camry IS better than the Accord in both features and value. Honda cannot add eAWD. They can't even make it cheaper. They simply run off their reliable reputation, but there's 0 reason to get an Accord over the Camry. Honda has lost their way.
Camry is just ugly as sin like it was designed by 50 different people.
@@ericdolby1622 The worst looking Camry is far better than the best looking Accord
@@chhoylai doubt that. You mean the best looking Camry is better looking than the worst looking accord which is this current generation,but definitely not better looking than the previous generation accord.
@@AlxN52 The last gen Accord isn't in the conversation. The front was nice, but not a fan of crab taillights and how it aged
@@chhoyla not even close. Fit and finish on a Honda is world's better. The looks are more sophisticated and mature. A Honda is way more reliable especially as of late. There is better resale with a Honda. A Honda is a drivers car by far.
In Canada - we did not get the HYBRID Sonata - Hyundai said the "hybrid Elantra" (only sold in top trim here as well) - is what competes very closely with the Accord and Camry. My heavens - the base Elantra complain for years has been people saying "no rear vents or plug ins" (it does have under seat ones for folks back there - it just not redirected to vents). In any case Hyundai pointed out the interior measurements and particularly "up front" the darn Elantra is very ... very close and substantially less than the Sonata hybrid would be - deluxe trim, $1000s less, still not a bad bad seat area - but how important for most folks.
I won’t even get into the styling and quality…. (Sat in ONE of these and haven’t looked back, speaking as an owner of a 2018 Sport with two previous bought-new Hondas dating back to my first new car in 2006, I’ll sum it up by saying I’ve been disappointed in the build quality of every current generation Honda I’ve sat in).
Honda’s recent decisions on the trim walk and color options are just plain awful. We’ve now reached a point where everything is just a “Sport” model with a different package. And of course the price on the “Sport” models is jacked up because it’s a “Sport”. “We got rid of the LX and replaced it with a Sport LX for $1500 more. It just adds big wheels and a tighter suspension to ruin your fuel economy and ride quality so you can pay more to feel sporty.”
(Sorry, I know that rant really isn’t relevant to this video because that’s not actually what they did with the SE model, but it’s not far off the mark and I just needed to get it off my chest).
When I bought my 2006 Civic there were three trims; DX, LX, and EX. The DX had manual everything; No power door locks, windows, etc. The LX added the power features, and the EX added a split folding rear seat, alloy wheels, and a sunroof. A few years after I got it they added the EX-L because people wanted a Civic with leather seats; It was just an EX with leather seats. I get that the DX wouldn’t fly in today’s market, and the market does demand the availability of more premium options such as HUD, but as time goes on Honda just keeps removing the less expensive trims and adding higher priced trims to the top of the trim walk, with no consideration given to lower priced options. (And then, yeah, they “Sport”-ify everything to squeeze a bit more money out by stroking peoples’ exotic sports car fantasies with a “Sport” trim, so we end up with an LX, Sport, Sport-L, and Sport Touring at the end of the day).
I really wish Someone would take the time to rebalance the trim walk and actually make it practical for the average owner. Make some trims without low profile tires. Give us some interior color options other than Black. Make the base trim basic again, and less expensive. And most of all, fix the build quality issues and hire back whoever designed the 10th gen cars to design whatever comes next because that generation was amazing, and this generation just looks like early 2000s Ford.
That was longer than I intended, but it felt good.
All these automakers have the same problem, especially the Japanese ones, but I don’t want to write another novel right now so that’s a rant for another day.
Civic and integra need rear vents and usbc too on all models this is mandatory.
Integra needs hybrid standard with eawd option.
Manual option in integra a spec AWD hybrid
Not just the Camry, the base COROLLA has rear vents and USB ports.
I was hoping that Honda would increase the horsepower and torque on the ‘25 Accord. Guess, I’ll have to wait longer.
Now camry is better than accord 😢 when accord can be upgrade to next generation?
@naveenthemachine more than just AWD as to why the Camry is better. ur in the minority here
I've already seen 2025 Camry on the road more than the New Accord... Well, that can tell you something.
I used to buy Accords, I drove the new accord a few times and didn’t like it at all and I finally just bought my first Camry, the 2025 XLE. I’m happy with everything but the color that shows everything, reservoir blue.
The Camry is without a doubt the better buy ALL around… it beats the Accord everywhere you look. The styling on the Accord is very outdated looks horrible, come on Honda you can do much better! As far as pricing Honda is wayyyyyy too expensive!
I am team Camry but I will give credit to the Accord for offering a gas version, better interior room, and class leading trunk space
The 11th gen accord is disappointing for a lot of reasons but I think they look far better than the generic Japanese sedan that was the 10th gen. Maybe people just don't like big designs but the only exterior gripe I agree with is the taillights look very cheaply done. But how many more expensive models don't have full LED taillights and LED turn signals.
“How the mighty fall” is the only thing that comes to mind. I’ve owned three different generations-98, 04, 06, and 14-and loved each. I’ve driven a couple of 10th gens and really enjoyed them. This 11th gen, even after a refresh, is grossly disappointing and lackluster. As illogical as this may sound, it almost seems that they’re intentionally sending the car toward discontinuation.
How bout no 360* camera! It’s an absolute miss for such a large car. I have a 19 accord sport 2.0 and keep worrying about hitting the bumper on parking blocks or curbs. Why is this standard just like rear vents.
u must can’t drive then cause I have the same car and do just fine respectfully.
@@drevondavis3351 Respectfully, you may think you do just fine. You may park like crap (car sticking out 1 ft out of the parking spot or parallel park 1 ft from the curb that's why you don't worry) because no one has told you.
The Accord's competition have it at or around the same price point. Honda continues to omit or require you choose an upper trim level for whatever reason. Just hope they aren't truly forcing their buyers to go up to Acura to get these missing features.
@@jayhova1776 lol my car don’t ever stick out but ok, but I do agree Honda is stingy with their features.
What would be nice is Honda giving the CRV ventilated seats as an option. This is a longterm vehicle. They should act like it.
Still ugly with no engine updates or awd. Wild in 2025 adding usb c and rear air vents is an upgrade lol
Camry wins 2025 my. Good job Toyota
Improvements are nice, but the exterior design is still probably the most boring design of any car currently on sale. And the pricing is atrocious. The hybrid starts more than $5k higher than a hybrid Camry. I can't imagine why anyone would buy this over a Civic or Camry.
I drove this hybrid Accord and didn’t like it after 3x and I went and drove Camry and bought it after a fairly long test drive.
So i guess 2026 will be a refresh coming....
I find your presentations too long winded and will wait for an unveiling from honda usa and hondacanada greetings from southern Ontario Canada
this gen accord is like the 2013 Civic deja vu where the press was so bad they redesigned it for the next year.
honda keeps making the cars look cheaper and cheaper! all that black crap cheap trim and wheels looks like dirt. the accord looks like a late 90's base model while charging you for a touring. no thanks honda, you gonna learn soon when no one wants to buy your cars.
Finally, it has a circus room in the basement where you can keep your elephant.
I laughed after, "I have great news for the Honda Accord."
For what it's worth I generally enjoy Honda's driving dynamics better than Toyota's for sedans as Honda tends to create a bit sportier ride in my experience.
Still no AWD. You can get AWD on so many other cars I don’t understand why they can’t do it.
They need a panoramic sunroof quickly
In the Southeast Toyota Dealer Network (don't get me started), the lower Camry base price is negated by the mandatory "port added" markup garbage even for domestically produced vehicles. If it weren't for SETD, I'd buy a Camry even though we love our '22 Accord hybrid. Been (im)patiently awaiting the Civic hybrid hatch. Had that been available in late 2018 instead of the Insight, that's what I'd be in now instead of the gas-version I currently drive.
This 11th gen Accord is still ugly. I tried to force myself to gravitate towards getting this over a 2022 Accord Sport but I just can’t. The front end is just absolutely awful
The front should have fog lights. And bring back the coupe!
2024 Touring *does* have air vents and USB C ports.
Friend of mine got the 2025 civic sport (non-hybrid) and as a 6’4”-6’5” guy, I actually fit comfortably in it and would probably take that or the new Camry over the current accord if I wanted a new car.
It drives me nuts how Honda and Toyota have the hard plastic at the top of the interior door. My 2006 Honda Civic has soft touch for front and rear doors at the top area.
The current Accord feels like a repeat of the 2012 Civic debacle. I doubt Honda is listening to its customers. More likely, they've received complaints from dealers about having to push the LX and EX with cash. The SE is just lipstick on a pig at this point. Honda is going to feel even more pressure from the new Camry over the next year as Marysville line consolidation is no longer an excuse for reduced sales. At the very least, they need to reconfigure the front and rear to add some personality, and improve the very dismal interior so its a better place to spend time.
What exactly was the 2012 Civic debacle? I mean I’ve seen them on the road and don’t mind them; but I wasn’t as much into cars at the time to notice.
@@arhamkhakwani5851 The 9th Gen civic launched for the 2012 model year but got ripped to shreds for it's interior materials, overall exterior design, etc. It was developed (according to Wikipedia) during the 2008 financial crisis so Honda thought consumers wouldn't mind the cost cutting because it was affordable and efficient. That ideology blew up in their face causing rivals to have an increase in sales, the Civic being removed from the recommended list on consumer reports, and Edmunds pointing out the car's flaws. For 2013 (next model year) Honda facelifted the Civic fixing most of the issues.
Still looks terrible and fully loaded at 40K+ isn't cutting it.
They need to redesign to make it easier to get in and out of. The roofline is too low. SUVs are popular because it's easy to get into and doesn't have a sloping roof. Chrysler made the same mistake, now Honda is well.
I was an Accord dude for multiple years. They lost me with the 18-22 Accord with the ugly rear end. The current generation looks like a Taurus in the front with Lincoln Aviator tail lamps.
same
I love the 18-22, I take that exterior over the current
wow. I bought my 2020 2.0T Sport for $30.5K out the door
You should check out the CPI calculators for Aug 2023 vs Aug 2024. The prices look like they are just adjusted for inflation.
Do your research before making a video
EX-L has vents for the back seats
USB c ports above it.
Camry over this any day.
I swear at this point the Camry is going to be the only affordable new sedan left on the market in North America
Honda better come with some heat for 2026 which is supposed to be the refresh, Honda is so stingy with features and pricing it’s ridiculous. But I’m not going to count them out because they redesign the accord every 4 years.
In hot states rear AC is huge. The. kids two thumbs up.
Did they still remove siriusxm
...and it's official, as per US Hyundai dealer bulletin last Friday, the G70 is discontinued without a direct replacement. RIP. 🙏
Camry FTW and it's not even close. Frankly, Honda's own CIVIC is a much better proposition than the Accord at this point. Honda needs to fast-track the next generation Accord and bring their pricing in line with the competition.
Civic and Camry were slowly killing the Accord.
Now Honda delivered the final blow. Sad.
I'm a happy Civic owner and would definitely buy new hybrid one.
Imho, Honda desperately needs hybrid HR-V. I'd happily buy it when I get old.
Needs a new front end still, if sales this year is still horrible I’ll be they’ll move up the actually refresh for next year
This is interesting, I've always thought when they introduce the SE trim it would be the last model year..
I have a 24 Touring and there’s only a big update it seems coming in 26 nothing yet