@@InitiateDee Everytime Porsche launching a new 911 people literally don't care how it will look, people only care how it will drive. Because we all know they look the same, and we are ok with that.
@@JianTyngLee well ofcourse but the looks still matter I would think, I’d prefer the previous gen over the new 992s in terms of looks. And I would prefer 70s-80s 911s even more
@@bigmacdaddy1234 see you on a track buddy . I bet the soccer mom cannot even win against it on a f1 car 😂. Also the driving feel and ergonomics of a 911 is not remotely close to what a Tesla has 😂. Both are completely different. It's obvious on a straight road an electric car will have the advantage of instant torque.
Ferrari engineering is usually superior and the difference frequently shows on track times, specific power output, power to weight ratio, chassis balance, aerodynamics, etc. In this case, the Roma is an entry level Ferrari, a GT car, more like a 911 Carrera while the 911 Turbo is one of the fastest cars we can get from the brand. Price tag they might be comparable, but Porsche never played in the same league as Ferrari, Aston Martin, Mclaren, Bentley, Lambo, etc.
The 911 is as always the best one car garage. The Roma is more fun, and better as a second car. But when you spend this kind of money on a fun second car, there are better options.
So I have a 992 GTS and thinking about having to join the queue for a Turbo S and giving Porsche my deposit. I can't quite bring myself to go the fezzer route though it looks amazing. Food for thought.
Here in Canada... hands down 911 Turbo S. The snow and short summers will make you appreciate that traction and all wheel drive competence. Let's not talk about reliability! Coffee run in the snow, on the way to your winter sport of choice or the lakeside, seaside in summer! There is no substitute.
I've just sold my Roma, And I agree it's a stunning looking car, she is right about the interior it's really cheap in places and the infotainment is like firing up a 1990's PC! It was blisteringly quick and great in the dry, less so in the wet. It will certainly get you noticed a lot more than in the ubiquitous Porsche. My view is if you want a car you can drive most days get a 911, if you want an exciting weekend driver get the Roma....
@@carlospalma_ panamera is more familiy oriented, more useful for everyday life bc you have 5 seats and its less sporty, 911 is more performance oriented, also better if you just want to show off.
911 Turbo S for me. Im not a fan of the lower front end styling of the Roma. I definitely wouldn’t get a white colour Roma. Price…. The $ 10 k difference in RRP is irrelevant. With both cars, there is an extensive options list to choose from, so final pricing will be dependant on how many options u choose to add to the base spec of each vehicle. 🚗 💥 💨
I had the same thought on the colour. Putting a white Roma next to the quintessential silver 911 Turbo S would never get compared in my mind. I may be thinking like a poor, but the Porsche is certainly going to be the better, usable ownership experience I'm expecting for that kind of money.
I don't like this new 911 design either... the "x shaped" led in the front lights look pretty stupid... and rear lights have something of heavy... 997 all the time for me, best 911 ever.
I love porsche and I own a 718, but when we talk about a Ferrari then every other cars just disappear. The exterior, the engine and the style the Roma has is just amazing to me. Ferrari Roma❤🇮🇹
I'd take Roma just for the design (controversiaI, I know), rarity and driving dynamics. The Porsche is probably better for most people though, from a practical standpoint.
The Roma is the first Ferrari in a long time to make me ‘think’…. As a long term Porsche owner and fanboy, the Roma is so close to winning me over. It’s just the interior, controls and interfaces that let it down for me. …..but it looks fantastic …..and that just maybe enough to sway the balance
If it wasn’t for the infotainment system and interior of the Ferrari I would of got sucked in by the obvious exterior beauty of the Roma easily. Absolutely gorgeous vehicle, but when it comes to purchase one or the other I still can’t decide. The 911 has such a perfect history it’s hard to ignore as for the boring portion of me the reliability is a slight anchor point. But I’m human, stupid at times so would likely just say sod it give me the Roma we only live once 🤣.
Porsche took "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" to the extreme lol they've been making the same car for 60 years. An unorthodox concept to begin with but it's worked SO damn well. And I will always love that classic 911 silhouette
I would imagine the 911 Turbo is better if you're doing track days. Question for real world road use in the UK is which gives you more satisfaction at an average speed of 40mph.
@@JohnyMcNeal You're not supposed to buy the Roma for every day use! This is not the car to sit in traffic or park on the road. I mean, you could do it but it would be a stupid idea. People who buy this car can also afford to own a small practical car (like a Mini Cooper S) for everyday use. Also, I don't see why the normal 911 is better then both, as you wrote; it is still an impractical, low-slung sport car with a big engine, which you're never going to use in everyday driving.
@@zix_zix_zix Why would anyone who can get Ferrari would sit in a mini cooper :D ? Most of the buyers of these car like to show off and if you don't want to show off, porsche is a definitly a better car
everyone choses between those 2 cars, but I am impressed with Alex, there aren’t many female car reviewers and she is rocking it. love her vibe and the way she delivers content!
@@touringmagazine5935 Whilst I agree, this is what I was told by the pro Ferrari drivers when test driving one at an event. I say test drive, I came away wanting one but my wallet was about £200k too light
The Roma is a better weekend car, with limits that are more approachable at road speeds, and looks that will get attention. The 911 is the perfect daily, especially in poor conditions.
These kinds of comparisons are fun, but the cars are created with two distinct missions. Turbo S: relentless performance in complete comfort. Roma: exclusivity, beauty, & complete comfort and can get after it if needed.
Hard comparison. I have the 911 and I’ve driven the Roma. The Roma is a GT car, the 911 is a dressed up race car. Don’t let the purists tell you that the 911 range is too big, or too luxurious, they are all track weapons, just some more than others. The Roma is a pure GT car with a beautiful front engine design, roomy interior, compliant ride, quiet cabin. The Roma and Turbo S have their places, but the only real comparison is the price and what you get for the money.
I've mentioned it many times before on so many channels and pages. Nothing touches Porsche 911 in any configuration or year of built. Unmatched, period.
The 911 is by far the better car... but it would still be a tough decision for me. Roma is REALLY pretty and I like the whole front-engine GT segment. But the Turbo S is a ferocious road weapon, which I'd probably settle for in the end.
A new, all analogue sports car would be a blessing. Especially when all the tech going into modern cars makes them redundant and unserviceable in the near future.
When comparing two items I had learned that a person from the UK would ask which is BETTER and a person from the US would ask which is BEST. She seems to have a British accent.
have been seeing plenty of Roma's around London this last few months. Its the Ferrari for those who want to be more 'subtle'...the rest of the range are all full bling, so can see why this is doing well...
She nailed it with the final word. If u can afford EITHER of these cars in the world of 2023 with insane prices on vehicles of this caliber, then its a pretty high chance you can afford to own them both, so why choose 🤷🏾♂️
I would take the Roma. I've owned 3 Porsche's and while they handle great, the looks of a Porsche leave a lot to be desired. The Roma has the edge, even if its slower and not as practical.
I've sold my Turbo S for the Roma. The Turbo S was fast fast. The infotainment system is nothing to brag about in the Roma. The sound system is trash, but who the hell is listening to music over the engine? Ferrari does get a bit more attention and people who sit inside feel as if its the best interior of any other Ferrari (pre Roma/SF 90/etc)...
I've seen the Roma up close and in person here in Germany and I got to say it wasn't as 'stunning' as I had thought. It's much better on videos like this. Seemed a little plasticky on the outside. I'm sure it's wonderful to drive but as I've gotten older the Porsche I would take all day every day. Great job lovely lady! First time seeing you. Nice vid!
Taking into consideration both have almost 650 HP Yet the Turbo S defeats every Lamborghini and almost all Ferraris, except for the SF90, LaFerrari, etc. It completed the 1/4 mile in 10.1 seconds as for Roma it does that in almost 11.3 seconds. Being having the same hp the performance have a great difference, so if u see the Porsche will be more value for money and can give u better performance. But the Roma is not bad either. If u want sheer performance go for the Porsche, if u want the strong exhaust sound, a good/decent performance and road presence then u can choose the Ferrari. Both have good presence on roads but Ferrari is still at top. So it depends on what u want, cuz both cost almost the same. Either way both fantastic cars u choose any one of them u won't regret.
Neither are affordable for 99.9% of us. They're both fantastic and pointless in equal measures. I'd personally have the 911 out of the 2, but in a world of financial crisis and wars, they look a bit silly to my eyes. There's plenty of sports cars that will give you just as many thrills for less. Lotus emira for example
I love that Bordeaux leather interior in the 911 Turbo, I have a Panamera Turbo S e-hybrid Sport Turismo with black and Bordeaux leather. And I also have a Roma, I daily drive the Panamera because it's incredibly practical as for the Roma we take it out on special occasions.
As a former Ferrari owner, I can easily tell you that any Porsche you buy will have a higher manufacturing quality. A brand-new Ferrari is one car, and the same brand-new Ferrari with 25000 miles on it is an entirely different car. That does not always apply to Porsche, at least in my multiple Ferrari and Porsche ownerships over the past thirty years. I have found that my Porsche was always of a higher mechanical and construction standard than my Ferraris. I have two Porsche, but I sold my last Ferrari several years ago and will never buy another one. My daily driver is a 2020 Panamera with 41,400+ miles on it as of today.
IdK, I think I'd go with the Porsche. Modern Ferraris just don't do it for me anymore. Maybe its supercar oversaturation but their styling just hasn't been the same hook-me-in since the 458 era. I would definitely go with the 911 Turbo over that Roma.
Great review! Really enjoyed the presentation style and commentary. I agree with you that Roma is a more exciting choice if I could only have one of them.
I would also take the Ferrari its more fun to drive, i prefer RWD, it sounds better, its better looking especially given all 911s look basically the same for many decades. Its also a more prestigious brand. If i was some kind of racing performer that needed to win races i would take the 911 but i dont need that.
Proper paddles on that Ferrari and they look beautiful. The downshift noise is music! Porsche is the physics professor while the Ferrari is the Orchestra conductor. Both fine cars.
Excellent presentation! If find it personally very hard to analyze the “beauty” of the 911 because I have loved them for so many decades. Its looks are “iconic.” And by that I mean I can’t analyze the curves, or shape objectively in any sense, it is just a “911,” and they have always been amazing to contemplate (especially the thrill of the mid-70’s turbo)…the looks are intertwined inexorably with the whole experience. The interior and the technology user interface on the Roma is garbage, just plain and simple…garbage. With regards to price you will never ever see a Roma at the price you quoted. Options are insanely expensive and just a modicum of options (ones most owners would consider essential and not flamboyant) will make it more expensive than the 911 Turbo S. I think it is curious you mention that perhaps it would have been more “fair” to compare the Roma to the 911 Turbo (rather than the S) when the price differential was essentially the same on either side of the Roma (+/- 10K pounds). Why? The comparison to the 911 Turbo S is perfectly appropriate, and in fact as mentioned the Porsche is still cheaper than the Ferrari. You ultimately chose the Ferrari for the same reason so many do…the emotional magic of the Ferrari brand is king, and has been for decades. Objectively their cars are not superior to many of their competitors, but none of their competitors have that magical prancing horse on the bonnet.
"The interior and the technology user interface on the Roma is garbage"? I strongly disagree; the interior looks fantastic and is highly customizable in terms of color options (you can also spec it with dual color), stitching, materials, seats and other details. There's an online configurator you can use to explore the many available options. The infotainment interface could indeed have been better but, really, who cares?
Objectively their cars Are superior in their class, from the 430 and 458 to the 296 and sf90. Also the Turbo s is essentialy a car that is aimed at comfort and speed while the Roma although a Gt car is more made for driving dynamics. But i agere with you on the beauty of 911’s.
@@zix_zix_zix Well, we can agree to disagree then. Their digital interface has no place in a Ferrari IMO. The iPad-like tablet in the center console looks as though it were designed in an elementary school art class. As far as the rest of the leather, etc., it is the standard Ferrari stuff which means it is nice but not particularly special. I have been an owner of numerous Ferraris and currently have a 458 and an 812GTS. Have you ever spent any time in an Aston, Bentley or Rolls? Now those interiors are indeed special.
@@tobiasjtaule8867 When it comes to being “objective” the only true objective measure of a sports car is track time standardized by using same driver, same track, and same tires (preferably on same day testing). You can look up track times online easily, ie: Big Willow. Just recently there is a video containing lap times in France at Nevers Magny-Cours Club, same driver and tires listed (easily searchable on TH-cam). You know which car consistently kicks Ferrari’s butt on track after track? The “lowly” Corvette Z06. Ferrari’s for many many years are not the top dogs performance wise at any track in the world. In addition, when it comes to reliable, usable, and exhilarating club racing events the cars that dominate are Porsche 911, Corvette, BMW, and of course the Mazda Miata. The reason for buying a Ferrari is the pure emotion the brand brings, and unfortunately increasingly the status symbol (especially in our social media driven world).
@@Rob02138 I am not a fan of the infotainment screens either - particularly when they stick out like a tablet. I am afraid this is the trend of the days though and literally every manufacturer installs them on their cars nowadays. Obviously, these systems are going to be completely outdated in a few years, no matter how cleverly you have managed to incorporate it into your interior (like Bentley do with their rotating system). Moreover, I can appreciate the plushness and the rich materials in a Bentley or Rolls but I would not want something like that in a Ferrari (especially in mid engine models). It's just a different feeling and sensation. I believe that Ferrari have worked very hard to offer the driver EXACTLY the feeling and sensation needed for their cars - obviously this is not just a matter of materials and interior design but a combination of every single part, the noise, the stiffness, the dimensions etc. Congrats for owning those great cars btw :)
Porsche are beautiful cars but oh my gosh, the Roma is so gorgeous it makes the 911 look mediocre. I think Roma looks best in dark colors, this particular model isn't even the prettiest version of it.
I have owned Porsche, Ferrari, AM, Maserati, and Lambo’s. Porsche as close to an exotic without the parts headaches. Porsche definitely a daily driver. Lots of Porsche aftermarket support vs primarily oem parts competition. Porsche basically yearly oil change /checkup with years of reliability. I owned a turbo 911 but quickly changed to a base convertible with manual transmission. The turbo arrives at triple digits too fast without real enjoyment city streets. Easier to drive a slower car fast Vs a faster car slower. I remember in the past BMW M course at Spartanburg. I was Amazed how the M3 could do circles around a M5 except on the straightaways.(v10 back then) Smaller is better. Lighter is better.
Porsche has never been a trophy car- its for someone with fine taste and appreciation for superlative engineering and to add the indulgence for absolute tearaway driving. BTW, lovely presentation by Alex- she's so amazing and with Rory, probably one of the best automotive duo on the planet. Heart broke knowing she's married and has kids 🤣 Just kidding!
tbh I don't need the extra power of a turbo, a 4S would be fine, even a 4 would nearly do except you can't option rear wheel steer on those (tho the exterior of the roma does look better imo)
The Roma is beautiful, but be real, the Porsche is much more of a daily. It will get loads of miles and the Roma will be sold down the road with under 10k miles like most Ferraris.
I would have this porsche every time, now a second hand 488 might be a harder decision. I consider myself to pretty proficient behind the wheel on the road or track, but some monied talentless driver could get themselves in a lot of trouble with cars like this, maybe the manufactures should introduce a voluntary driving course for cars of a certain performance with insurance benefits to keep road users safer and teaching the drivers of these cars to enjoy them more😊
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 I couldn't agree with you more. Way too easy to obtain an insanely fast car these days, more often than not piloted by someone who's enthusiasm far exceeds their ability.
@@armoris66 well said, thought I was the only one who thinks this when watching a badly driven supercar taking the wrong lines through corners or cutting everyone up and then getting left for dead when the road involves more technical bends😊
@@iandavies1893 🤣 Too true! Nothing more satisfying than hanging onto the rear of a high powered German saloon in my people carrier, through the twisty stuff or in my younger days, disappearing down the road in my reasonably priced hot hatch. Happy days a plenty! 😂🤣
@@armoris66 my weapon of choice is an E class with a remap and 470ftlb of torque on super diesel. Never fails to amuse me when the Porsche behind can't believe you just disappeared or the Tesla that is only good away from the lights has that Elon " my rocket just exploded" look😂 oh and 40-45mpg on a motorway.
Ferrari or Porsche?
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Ferrari
Ferrari.
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The Roma is absolutely sublime but there's nothing like a 911. ❤
To beat a 911 you have to bring another 911
There's nothing like a 911, except all the other 911s that look exactly the same
this is coming from a Porsche fan mind you
@@InitiateDee Everytime Porsche launching a new 911 people literally don't care how it will look, people only care how it will drive. Because we all know they look the same, and we are ok with that.
@@JianTyngLee well ofcourse but the looks still matter I would think, I’d prefer the previous gen over the new 992s in terms of looks. And I would prefer 70s-80s 911s even more
@@miniatuurautootje at this point 992 is cheaper than say 993 or 964.. good luck my brother.
I have a turbo S and can confirm it’s as good as they say
Odd question, how is the mpg or km/l like? I wonder if it is actually daily-driver material.
Same question as@@iaintdonknow
@@iaintdonknow its fine in the comfort focused drive modes
it's DD material, where as the GT3 is not.
@@danielmiller9012 yeah GT3 seems like the dream, but is the definition of a weekend car
@@iaintdonknow you bastard
The engineering that went into the 911 is simply unmatched, considering the performance.
Performance...lol. A soccer mom driving a Tesla smokes it with ease.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 see you on a track buddy . I bet the soccer mom cannot even win against it on a f1 car 😂. Also the driving feel and ergonomics of a 911 is not remotely close to what a Tesla has 😂. Both are completely different. It's obvious on a straight road an electric car will have the advantage of instant torque.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 sure and pigs can fly.
Ferrari engineering is usually superior and the difference frequently shows on track times, specific power output, power to weight ratio, chassis balance, aerodynamics, etc.
In this case, the Roma is an entry level Ferrari, a GT car, more like a 911 Carrera while the 911 Turbo is one of the fastest cars we can get from the brand.
Price tag they might be comparable, but Porsche never played in the same league as Ferrari, Aston Martin, Mclaren, Bentley, Lambo, etc.
The 911 is perfect, but the Roma is art
You owe it to yourself to have a go in a Turbo S, Absolutely relentless massive Performance 👍
Porsche, of course.
Agreee!!
The 911 is as always the best one car garage. The Roma is more fun, and better as a second car. But when you spend this kind of money on a fun second car, there are better options.
Did you ever drive one?
@@saddamdeath583I used to own a Turbo S and it was an astonishingly great car. But I’m now saving for a Roma. End of.
Turbo s King of roads😂😂😂😂
Having owned a 911 Turbo S, and currently have a 2022 Roma, I love both!
get a dbs superlegerra ya nancy
Sure you do buddy.
Lucky lucky boy...😅😅😅...
I can't fathom how geniuses who design masterpieces on the outside with monster powertrains can't figure out how to make a good infotainment system.
So I have a 992 GTS and thinking about having to join the queue for a Turbo S and giving Porsche my deposit. I can't quite bring myself to go the fezzer route though it looks amazing. Food for thought.
Here in Canada... hands down 911 Turbo S. The snow and short summers will make you appreciate that traction and all wheel drive competence.
Let's not talk about reliability! Coffee run in the snow, on the way to your winter sport of choice or the lakeside, seaside in summer! There is no substitute.
I've just sold my Roma, And I agree it's a stunning looking car, she is right about the interior it's really cheap in places and the infotainment is like firing up a 1990's PC! It was blisteringly quick and great in the dry, less so in the wet. It will certainly get you noticed a lot more than in the ubiquitous Porsche.
My view is if you want a car you can drive most days get a 911, if you want an exciting weekend driver get the Roma....
And between the 911 and the Panamera?
@@carlospalma_ panamera is more familiy oriented, more useful for everyday life bc you have 5 seats and its less sporty, 911 is more performance oriented, also better if you just want to show off.
@@carlospalma_ Panamera is not a Porsche.
@@rfc3133 hey brother, thanks for the feedback. What about the Taycan? Any thoughts?
"...if you want a car you can drive most days get a 911, if you want an exciting weekend driver get the 911." There, fixed it for ya.😂
The Porsche is a fantastic car - but when it comes to the overall flair and feeling - it must be the Ferrari Roma - I fully agree with her.
911 Turbo S for me.
Im not a fan of the lower front end styling of the Roma.
I definitely wouldn’t get a white colour Roma.
Price….
The $ 10 k difference in RRP is irrelevant.
With both cars, there is an extensive options list to choose from, so final pricing will be dependant on how many options u choose to add to the base spec of each vehicle.
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I had the same thought on the colour. Putting a white Roma next to the quintessential silver 911 Turbo S would never get compared in my mind.
I may be thinking like a poor, but the Porsche is certainly going to be the better, usable ownership experience I'm expecting for that kind of money.
I don't like this new 911 design either... the "x shaped" led in the front lights look pretty stupid... and rear lights have something of heavy...
997 all the time for me, best 911 ever.
I'd pick the 911 if i had the money,,,, the performance, the look I like it more .
I love porsche and I own a 718, but when we talk about a Ferrari then every other cars just disappear. The exterior, the engine and the style the Roma has is just amazing to me. Ferrari Roma❤🇮🇹
I'd take Roma just for the design (controversiaI, I know), rarity and driving dynamics. The Porsche is probably better for most people though, from a practical standpoint.
Not just practical, also the performance
Roma is an elegant Ferrari. I love it.
Who is buying such cars from practical standpoint?😂
In a dream or with eyes closed or blind, Porsche always❤
The Roma is the first Ferrari in a long time to make me ‘think’….
As a long term Porsche owner and fanboy, the Roma is so close to winning me over. It’s just the interior, controls and interfaces that let it down for me.
…..but it looks fantastic
…..and that just maybe enough to sway the balance
That exterior is sublimeeeee. But that center console is just pukish.
Porsche is a better option, because Ferrari is basically an expensive fiat
@@megaprimegamer1184yeah….I’ll stick with Porsche 👍
@@maxi8113good point, well made 😂
Except for the front grill, it looks ugly especially in this white color .
Pretty sure the Ferrari cost way more than she said.
If it wasn’t for the infotainment system and interior of the Ferrari I would of got sucked in by the obvious exterior beauty of the Roma easily. Absolutely gorgeous vehicle, but when it comes to purchase one or the other I still can’t decide. The 911 has such a perfect history it’s hard to ignore as for the boring portion of me the reliability is a slight anchor point. But I’m human, stupid at times so would likely just say sod it give me the Roma we only live once 🤣.
Turbo S is the ultimate supercar!! Really is hard to beat in all segments! Track animal, everyday drivability, comfortable and crazy speed!
Ultimate sports car* technically. But I see what you mean. It really is brilliant but as a Ferrari fan boy I’m gonna be a bit biased 😜
Not usually a fan of white cars, but damn does that Ferrari pull it off. Something about the white shark-nose grill that just works for me.
Porsche took "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" to the extreme lol they've been making the same car for 60 years. An unorthodox concept to begin with but it's worked SO damn well. And I will always love that classic 911 silhouette
Excatly! Just like Lada niva! Perfect from the beginning :D
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I love the german engineering but this time i would chose the roma... It's that car my neighbors wife will get to notice😂😂😂
Ha good one :)
Alex could easily afford her Roma by selling audio of her reading the phone book. What a great presenter
I would imagine the 911 Turbo is better if you're doing track days. Question for real world road use in the UK is which gives you more satisfaction at an average speed of 40mph.
Normal 911 for daily use is better then both, if you're over 190cm Roma will feel just small and it's visibility is bad for everyday use.
@@JohnyMcNeal You're not supposed to buy the Roma for every day use! This is not the car to sit in traffic or park on the road. I mean, you could do it but it would be a stupid idea. People who buy this car can also afford to own a small practical car (like a Mini Cooper S) for everyday use. Also, I don't see why the normal 911 is better then both, as you wrote; it is still an impractical, low-slung sport car with a big engine, which you're never going to use in everyday driving.
911
If you are doing track days you don’t bring a 911 turbo s or a roma
@@zix_zix_zix Why would anyone who can get Ferrari would sit in a mini cooper :D ? Most of the buyers of these car like to show off and if you don't want to show off, porsche is a definitly a better car
Mark my words. One day I will buy a Roma.
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And if not?
Ok
Good for you, spiderman
For you will, residuals on this car will be a disaster..
everyone choses between those 2 cars, but I am impressed with Alex, there aren’t many female car reviewers and she is rocking it. love her vibe and the way she delivers content!
Great review... I'd take the 911.
I take the Ferrari Roma any day!
Roma's were actually made to take on the Bentley GT and the Aston Martins
@@touringmagazine5935 Whilst I agree, this is what I was told by the pro Ferrari drivers when test driving one at an event. I say test drive, I came away wanting one but my wallet was about £200k too light
Turbo S for me Baby 😊
The Roma is a better weekend car, with limits that are more approachable at road speeds, and looks that will get attention. The 911 is the perfect daily, especially in poor conditions.
These kinds of comparisons are fun, but the cars are created with two distinct missions. Turbo S: relentless performance in complete comfort. Roma: exclusivity, beauty, & complete comfort and can get after it if needed.
And rwd vs awd
The harsh reality is that none of these cars are comfortable
@Mnabiei perhaps they would be better described as "luxury"? 😃
There are no bad cars in the current Ferrari line-up - just a question of what kind of Ferrari package you need.
Yeh I'm sure they're good but I just don't like the styling of any of the current ferraris
@Nirbhaya Tiwari personally I think purosangue is the worst thing to ever have a ferrari badge
Hard comparison. I have the 911 and I’ve driven the Roma. The Roma is a GT car, the 911 is a dressed up race car. Don’t let the purists tell you that the 911 range is too big, or too luxurious, they are all track weapons, just some more than others. The Roma is a pure GT car with a beautiful front engine design, roomy interior, compliant ride, quiet cabin. The Roma and Turbo S have their places, but the only real comparison is the price and what you get for the money.
I've mentioned it many times before on so many channels and pages. Nothing touches Porsche 911 in any configuration or year of built. Unmatched, period.
The 911 is by far the better car... but it would still be a tough decision for me. Roma is REALLY pretty and I like the whole front-engine GT segment. But the Turbo S is a ferocious road weapon, which I'd probably settle for in the end.
It is not by far better lmao
911 is way better.
ALL Bullshit Porsche hype. The girls won't even compete in F1.@@vnkman4391
Ferrari is better
I want Rory reviews thats why I subscribed to this channel!!!
There is always a place in my heart for Porsche 😊😊😊
A new, all analogue sports car would be a blessing.
Especially when all the tech going into modern cars makes them redundant and unserviceable in the near future.
Wow I could listen to the cars and presenter all day 😮
I think I'll choose the one that you'll choose. I trust your judgment
... AND the Porsche has real buttons everywhere. 😍
I subscribed to this channel because she is just awesome. Best car review I've ever seen. I'd buy her the F Roma.
Great review! She’s awesome.
When comparing two items I had learned that a person from the UK would ask which is BETTER and a person from the US would ask which is BEST. She seems to have a British accent.
Alex's voiceover's are always so soothing it's like an ASMR
have been seeing plenty of Roma's around London this last few months. Its the Ferrari for those who want to be more 'subtle'...the rest of the range are all full bling, so can see why this is doing well...
She nailed it with the final word. If u can afford EITHER of these cars in the world of 2023 with insane prices on vehicles of this caliber, then its a pretty high chance you can afford to own them both, so why choose 🤷🏾♂️
I'm not really a Porsche guy, but 911 100%.
Unless I can sell the Ferrari without getting sued
Waiting on the power between 3 & 6000, rpm in my old school book you call that lag, so when you're waiting to get going, the Porsche has already gone
When you see that childless smile, you know it’s the one
Starting at $250,000 est. Highs Beautiful design, more spacious than it looks, now available as a convertible.
Imagine the Roma with a hypothetical Manual transmission
I would take the Roma. I've owned 3 Porsche's and while they handle great, the looks of a Porsche leave a lot to be desired. The Roma has the edge, even if its slower and not as practical.
I have to agree, I have both vehicles but find myself in the Roma a lot more often...........
In Gran Turismo
Lmao
I'm a Porsche fanboy. I might not buy sf90 against it but Roma, it's a thing of beauty.
The Roma is such a beauty though... that design is 🔥
How are these two even compared?? A track/drag focused car against a GT?
What's the narrative here?
For a normal non race car driver the Ferrari badge would be hard to resist… as long as it wasn’t your only car.. (pole today for Charles 🏎️🏎️) 😎
I've sold my Turbo S for the Roma. The Turbo S was fast fast. The infotainment system is nothing to brag about in the Roma. The sound system is trash, but who the hell is listening to music over the engine? Ferrari does get a bit more attention and people who sit inside feel as if its the best interior of any other Ferrari (pre Roma/SF 90/etc)...
3:25 on that day little timmy was kicked out of the house and was replaced by a BEAUTIFUL Ferrari Roma. I mean who wouldn't?
On no planet would I take plain jane looking 911 over a Roma no matter what the cost difference
I've seen the Roma up close and in person here in Germany and I got to say it wasn't as 'stunning' as I had thought. It's much better on videos like this. Seemed a little plasticky on the outside. I'm sure it's wonderful to drive but as I've gotten older the Porsche I would take all day every day. Great job lovely lady! First time seeing you. Nice vid!
I have seen the 911 in italy and for me is the reverse...
@Alessandro Ogheri :) funny that.
@@shmac96 Porsche old design
Taking into consideration both have almost 650 HP
Yet the Turbo S defeats every Lamborghini and almost all Ferraris, except for the SF90, LaFerrari, etc.
It completed the 1/4 mile in 10.1 seconds as for Roma it does that in almost 11.3 seconds. Being having the same hp the performance have a great difference, so if u see the Porsche will be more value for money and can give u better performance. But the Roma is not bad either. If u want sheer performance go for the Porsche, if u want the strong exhaust sound, a good/decent performance and road presence then u can choose the Ferrari. Both have good presence on roads but Ferrari is still at top. So it depends on what u want, cuz both cost almost the same. Either way both fantastic cars u choose any one of them u won't regret.
Neither are affordable for 99.9% of us. They're both fantastic and pointless in equal measures.
I'd personally have the 911 out of the 2, but in a world of financial crisis and wars, they look a bit silly to my eyes.
There's plenty of sports cars that will give you just as many thrills for less. Lotus emira for example
So the Ferrari has the soul and passion that the Porsche doesn't
I love that Bordeaux leather interior in the 911 Turbo, I have a Panamera Turbo S e-hybrid Sport Turismo with black and Bordeaux leather. And I also have a Roma, I daily drive the Panamera because it's incredibly practical as for the Roma we take it out on special occasions.
I cant say no to that Roma...boy i tell you, its a beauty
I definitely go for engineering and practical thought.
- Therefore I go Porsche ❤️
As a former Ferrari owner, I can easily tell you that any Porsche you buy will have a higher manufacturing quality. A brand-new Ferrari is one car, and the same brand-new Ferrari with 25000 miles on it is an entirely different car. That does not always apply to Porsche, at least in my multiple Ferrari and Porsche ownerships over the past thirty years. I have found that my Porsche was always of a higher mechanical and construction standard than my Ferraris. I have two Porsche, but I sold my last Ferrari several years ago and will never buy another one. My daily driver is a 2020 Panamera with 41,400+ miles on it as of today.
Excellent review
IdK, I think I'd go with the Porsche. Modern Ferraris just don't do it for me anymore. Maybe its supercar oversaturation but their styling just hasn't been the same hook-me-in since the 458 era. I would definitely go with the 911 Turbo over that Roma.
Great review! Really enjoyed the presentation style and commentary. I agree with you that Roma is a more exciting choice if I could only have one of them.
No contest, the Ferrari without a doubt. It's special, 911s are everywhere and largely invisible.
From the side and back the Roma looks like a Jaguar.
Yes I agree !!!!!
I would also take the Ferrari its more fun to drive, i prefer RWD, it sounds better, its better looking especially given all 911s look basically the same for many decades. Its also a more prestigious brand. If i was some kind of racing performer that needed to win races i would take the 911 but i dont need that.
Totally agree. I'm sorry, but I'm one of those people that find it difficult to tell any Porsche apart 😂
Great review. Having both 911 and Roma, I agree with the final assessment. Honestly, you can’t go wrong with either…
The 911 is better, but I'd choose the Roma just because it's a Ferrari 😍
Since most would hardly need the performance, the Roma is a better buy and has that appeal for the money
Ferrari so good, she's willing to sell her house, her grandmother and her child. That's about the right amount of excitement
Ferrari in my opinion is more exclusive and unique,combine beautiful shape, stunning performance and everyday usability like no other car
Great review, now looking forward to seeing the review of the Roma Spider.
Proper paddles on that Ferrari and they look beautiful. The downshift noise is music! Porsche is the physics professor while the Ferrari is the Orchestra conductor. Both fine cars.
Excellent presentation!
If find it personally very hard to analyze the “beauty” of the 911 because I have loved them for so many decades. Its looks are “iconic.” And by that I mean I can’t analyze the curves, or shape objectively in any sense, it is just a “911,” and they have always been amazing to contemplate (especially the thrill of the mid-70’s turbo)…the looks are intertwined inexorably with the whole experience.
The interior and the technology user interface on the Roma is garbage, just plain and simple…garbage.
With regards to price you will never ever see a Roma at the price you quoted. Options are insanely expensive and just a modicum of options (ones most owners would consider essential and not flamboyant) will make it more expensive than the 911 Turbo S. I think it is curious you mention that perhaps it would have been more “fair” to compare the Roma to the 911 Turbo (rather than the S) when the price differential was essentially the same on either side of the Roma (+/- 10K pounds). Why? The comparison to the 911 Turbo S is perfectly appropriate, and in fact as mentioned the Porsche is still cheaper than the Ferrari.
You ultimately chose the Ferrari for the same reason so many do…the emotional magic of the Ferrari brand is king, and has been for decades. Objectively their cars are not superior to many of their competitors, but none of their competitors have that magical prancing horse on the bonnet.
"The interior and the technology user interface on the Roma is garbage"? I strongly disagree; the interior looks fantastic and is highly customizable in terms of color options (you can also spec it with dual color), stitching, materials, seats and other details. There's an online configurator you can use to explore the many available options. The infotainment interface could indeed have been better but, really, who cares?
Objectively their cars Are superior in their class, from the 430 and 458 to the 296 and sf90. Also the Turbo s is essentialy a car that is aimed at comfort and speed while the Roma although a Gt car is more made for driving dynamics. But i agere with you on the beauty of 911’s.
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Well, we can agree to disagree then. Their digital interface has no place in a Ferrari IMO. The iPad-like tablet in the center console looks as though it were designed in an elementary school art class. As far as the rest of the leather, etc., it is the standard Ferrari stuff which means it is nice but not particularly special. I have been an owner of numerous Ferraris and currently have a 458 and an 812GTS. Have you ever spent any time in an Aston, Bentley or Rolls? Now those interiors are indeed special.
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When it comes to being “objective” the only true objective measure of a sports car is track time standardized by using same driver, same track, and same tires (preferably on same day testing). You can look up track times online easily, ie: Big Willow. Just recently there is a video containing lap times in France at Nevers Magny-Cours Club, same driver and tires listed (easily searchable on TH-cam). You know which car consistently kicks Ferrari’s butt on track after track? The “lowly” Corvette Z06. Ferrari’s for many many years are not the top dogs performance wise at any track in the world. In addition, when it comes to reliable, usable, and exhilarating club racing events the cars that dominate are Porsche 911, Corvette, BMW, and of course the Mazda Miata.
The reason for buying a Ferrari is the pure emotion the brand brings, and unfortunately increasingly the status symbol (especially in our social media driven world).
@@Rob02138 I am not a fan of the infotainment screens either - particularly when they stick out like a tablet. I am afraid this is the trend of the days though and literally every manufacturer installs them on their cars nowadays. Obviously, these systems are going to be completely outdated in a few years, no matter how cleverly you have managed to incorporate it into your interior (like Bentley do with their rotating system). Moreover, I can appreciate the plushness and the rich materials in a Bentley or Rolls but I would not want something like that in a Ferrari (especially in mid engine models). It's just a different feeling and sensation. I believe that Ferrari have worked very hard to offer the driver EXACTLY the feeling and sensation needed for their cars - obviously this is not just a matter of materials and interior design but a combination of every single part, the noise, the stiffness, the dimensions etc. Congrats for owning those great cars btw :)
Porsche are beautiful cars but oh my gosh, the Roma is so gorgeous it makes the 911 look mediocre. I think Roma looks best in dark colors, this particular model isn't even the prettiest version of it.
911 is Timeless
Tough choice is money is no object. But the Roma is more romantic with a lot more sensations in it.
Roma gives vibe of a Maserati...
I have owned Porsche, Ferrari, AM, Maserati, and Lambo’s. Porsche as close to an exotic without the parts headaches. Porsche definitely a daily driver. Lots of Porsche aftermarket support vs primarily oem parts competition. Porsche basically yearly oil change /checkup with years of reliability. I owned a turbo 911 but quickly changed to a base convertible with manual transmission. The turbo arrives at triple digits too fast without real enjoyment city streets. Easier to drive a slower car fast Vs a faster car slower. I remember in the past BMW M course at Spartanburg. I was Amazed how the M3 could do circles around a M5 except on the straightaways.(v10 back then) Smaller is better. Lighter is better.
Porsche has never been a trophy car- its for someone with fine taste and appreciation for superlative engineering and to add the indulgence for absolute tearaway driving. BTW, lovely presentation by Alex- she's so amazing and with Rory, probably one of the best automotive duo on the planet. Heart broke knowing she's married and has kids 🤣 Just kidding!
what do you consider a trophy car
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@@supremeetnel7707 ferrari roma
tbh I don't need the extra power of a turbo, a 4S would be fine, even a 4 would nearly do except you can't option rear wheel steer on those
(tho the exterior of the roma does look better imo)
What question is that? 911 all day every day.
You see a Porsche everyday, but you don’t see a Ferrari everyday unless you live in Beverly Hills
First time I've seen a Roma in another other than Red and it looks 10x better in White. I'd take it over the Porsche.
Looks amazing in dark green.
The Roma is beautiful, but be real, the Porsche is much more of a daily. It will get loads of miles and the Roma will be sold down the road with under 10k miles like most Ferraris.
You didn’t mention the reaylibility of the prsche the gearbox of porsche never breakdown
I love how she described the Porsche as an angry bullfrog lol 😆. I've never heard that one
I would have this porsche every time, now a second hand 488 might be a harder decision. I consider myself to pretty proficient behind the wheel on the road or track, but some monied talentless driver could get themselves in a lot of trouble with cars like this, maybe the manufactures should introduce a voluntary driving course for cars of a certain performance with insurance benefits to keep road users safer and teaching the drivers of these cars to enjoy them more😊
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 I couldn't agree with you more. Way too easy to obtain an insanely fast car these days, more often than not piloted by someone who's enthusiasm far exceeds their ability.
@@armoris66 well said, thought I was the only one who thinks this when watching a badly driven supercar taking the wrong lines through corners or cutting everyone up and then getting left for dead when the road involves more technical bends😊
@@iandavies1893 🤣 Too true! Nothing more satisfying than hanging onto the rear of a high powered German saloon in my people carrier, through the twisty stuff or in my younger days, disappearing down the road in my reasonably priced hot hatch. Happy days a plenty! 😂🤣
@@armoris66 my weapon of choice is an E class with a remap and 470ftlb of torque on super diesel. Never fails to amuse me when the Porsche behind can't believe you just disappeared or the Tesla that is only good away from the lights has that Elon " my rocket just exploded" look😂 oh and 40-45mpg on a motorway.
@@iandavies1893 NICE!!