To me Fantastic Planet is all about the combination of the haunting musical score and the beautiful/terrifying visuals. I find myself getting lost in the huge alien eyes and slow pans of the gardens and wastelands. I think the scenes involving the crystals and the strange tentacle monster ect.. is to establish that this place is so beyond human understanding, and that at any moment Ter and the humans can just be snuffed out. There’s a weight the movie puts on you and it creates a tension that’s hard to describe while watching it. The final scene with the dancing statues is simultaneously shocking and kinda beautiful. It’s a unique combination of emotions that very few movies have made me feel before.
The Big Lebowski was one of those movies that took me a few years to actually watch. When I was a teenager, I was mostly recommended it by stoners and folk with spotty taste in films. I'd also noticed the Coens seemed to be annoyed whenever they got asked about a potential sequel. It wasn't until years later when I was watching all of their movies, I had to finally bite the bullet. Ended up really liking it, and was a little embarrassed by my initial, petty snobbyness.
In the 70s the kids would call it far out, in 2024 they call it all about the vibes. This is totally a vibe. A good one? I don’t think so but definitely a laconic vibe? Lol
Saw this once on wrong day wrong time. Tried again saw it as a crossbreed of Avatar and Lorax forest with shrooms involved. The creatures and sound effects are fun. Craig should've come bursting through the wall like Kool-Aid man for this one. "You're not gonna start Cartoon June watching THIS without Mee!" The pace is just passive french no high no low.
The learning mechanism is very similar to Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard. The corporate's having and culling the workers is also similar to Battlefield Earth. I always wanted to see this movie and am glad I don't have to now. There is a lot of this that is similar to BE. Wonder if he saw this movie.
Saw this movie after I heard it in Black Balloons Reprise by Flying Lotus and needless to say I sat watching, slack jawed staring the whole time. I love the ending to this film.
@@alextoschi2242 there is some sort of respite from tyranny. Even though the humans decisively struck against the Draags, they decided not to destroy them. That would be stooping to their level.
Matt, I think your experience with The Big Lebowski is pretty common. I hated it the first time I watched it. I gave it another chance and 'got it' the second time. The moment the ferret goes into the bathtub I became a fan. haha
The first time I watched The Big Lebowski, one of my first thoughts was "If the slightest thing was different about this movie, I would hate it." But it's great.
Seen it: Falling in Love (1984)? It seemed to go a bit under the radar when it came out but it is such a wonderfully written and acted film, it's become one of my favorites. Very much in the same vein as Once.
Seen It? Robert Altman's O.C. & Stiggs. Dennis Hopper, Jane Curtain, John Cyer, My Favourite Martian Guy, Martin Mull and King Sunny Ade. Also: Gillamonster.
Interesting. I’ve seen multiple pictures of the humans fighting while strapped to the blue shark worm things, but I always assumed it was as something the giants forced enslaved people to do, not a voluntary (at least on one side) activity engaged in by free people.
I can't pick a favorite co-host now that Craig has more or less retired, but Doug has always been a favorite on Beer and Board Games and the same remains true here
Excellent choice for the Cartoon June kickoff! I always thought at heart Fantastic Planet was meant as a colonialism/xenophobia fable set in a place that was supposed to be incomprehensible to us humans, since our species is the downtrodden 'degraded' society in this narrative. It's just a bonus that you can watch it stoned out of your gourd and still have a great time taking in the bizarre, beautiful imagery and amazing music.
I was 15..perhaps, it was written on drugs, for those who do drugs... naw.. Czechoslovakia came out with some bizarre and interesting things.. I know..I'm half Czech.
So i have a strange relationship with the big Lebowski. It came out 9 months before i was born. There may or may not be a connection there, but that is a question i am never going to ask my parents, so it will always be a strange possibility for me.
serious man i always thought was about morality… as soon be as he compromises his morals by changing the grade of his student, he gets the bad call from his doctor… and a storm appears on the horizon.
You needed to have your "mind altered with chemicals" to think it was a good idea to do an animal rights allegory and a colonialism allegory with the same groups at the same time.
It really seemed like what they were going for in concept was something purely intellectual. Whether intentional or not, this meant the movie completely sacrificed any semblance of an emotional core, which I think is why you can follow the ideas they're exploring easily enough, though in a totally cold and indifferent way. For example, I grasp the significance of the Oms being treated like vermin, yet when Oms get killed, I feel almost nothing at all. So, we can appreciate the themes, but we can't really empathize with the characters or connect with them in any meaningful way. It's therefore not much of a surprise that the film ends as abruptly as it does. It reminded me of the trope about how in movie scripts, action scenes are often simply denoted with something like, "...and then the two armies fight", and so it's ultimately left to the filmmakers to interpret that and fill in the blanks; with this movie, it was as though the script read, "...and then the two civilizations agree to live in peace," except there was no artistic interpretation beyond literally just cutting to them flatly stating they agree to live in peace, and them BAM -- movie instantly done, roll credits. Very bizarre approach. Still, the art style and imagery were very interesting, and I quite liked how creative and imaginative it all was. I _think_ I basically enjoyed it, but it's not something I'm going to be eager to watch again.
The whole thing when a serious man came out was that it was the coen bros take on the book of job much like the odyssey with o brother did Matt Really not know that ? Literally every review when it came out brought it up
Is this what Star Trek sounds like to non-Star Trek fans? Also, how do we get "Fantastic" from "Sauvage"? Wouldn't the English title be "Savage (or Wild) Planet"?
Probably not a translation, in this case, but a straight up change. They might have thought "Fantastic Planet" would hold more appeal. Certainly sounds more hippie/pot-head friendly.
The art style of this movie was so off-putting and unsettling that I could barely watch the whole episode. It’s weird, I’ve never felt like that about a movie before.
All these new co hosts do a decent enough job but are so far from the sheer witted charisma that Craig so effortlessly brought to the show. Anybody knows why he left? He is sorely missed.
I really love Doug's sense of humor. It's very dry, but it's witty.
He went for the easy Cosby joke instead of what Matt was really asking I was actually curious about the question
To me Fantastic Planet is all about the combination of the haunting musical score and the beautiful/terrifying visuals. I find myself getting lost in the huge alien eyes and slow pans of the gardens and wastelands.
I think the scenes involving the crystals and the strange tentacle monster ect.. is to establish that this place is so beyond human understanding, and that at any moment Ter and the humans can just be snuffed out. There’s a weight the movie puts on you and it creates a tension that’s hard to describe while watching it. The final scene with the dancing statues is simultaneously shocking and kinda beautiful. It’s a unique combination of emotions that very few movies have made me feel before.
5:34 Me and Matt started doing the scat thing right at the same time, Twelve song goes hard
I love Doug’s voice
The Cat and The Matt , saw the kitty walk down the stairs…love that kitties gravitate to YOU 😻
The Big Lebowski was one of those movies that took me a few years to actually watch. When I was a teenager, I was mostly recommended it by stoners and folk with spotty taste in films. I'd also noticed the Coens seemed to be annoyed whenever they got asked about a potential sequel.
It wasn't until years later when I was watching all of their movies, I had to finally bite the bullet. Ended up really liking it, and was a little embarrassed by my initial, petty snobbyness.
That's an easy trap to fall into - judging a movie by its fans. On the other hands it's fairly reliable *much* of the time.
In the 70s the kids would call it far out, in 2024 they call it all about the vibes. This is totally a vibe. A good one? I don’t think so but definitely a laconic vibe? Lol
Could not be more right from what I can tell.
peachy keen, groovy, non-heinous, and maybe even phat.
💯
Saw this once on wrong day wrong time. Tried again saw it as a crossbreed of Avatar and Lorax forest with shrooms involved. The creatures and sound effects are fun. Craig should've come bursting through the wall like Kool-Aid man for this one.
"You're not gonna start Cartoon June watching THIS without Mee!" The pace is just passive french no high no low.
Doug is excellent for this, really sharp and my Sense of humor
The learning mechanism is very similar to Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard. The corporate's having and culling the workers is also similar to Battlefield Earth. I always wanted to see this movie and am glad I don't have to now. There is a lot of this that is similar to BE. Wonder if he saw this movie.
@11:44: My favorite part, lol!!
😂😭💀(f'n "divining rods!!" I'm dead)...
@19:26: (2nd best part!😂).
When I was little my parents went through a real art film phase and rented all sorts of things. This is one of the movies they rented.
I love this dude’s voice
Saw this movie after I heard it in Black Balloons Reprise by Flying Lotus and needless to say I sat watching, slack jawed staring the whole time. I love the ending to this film.
Why do you love the ending?
@@alextoschi2242 there is some sort of respite from tyranny. Even though the humans decisively struck against the Draags, they decided not to destroy them. That would be stooping to their level.
Yay for Doug- and YAY for one of my favourite animated films!
As soon as that spaceship made that sound I knew Matt would do that voice lmao
My god I didn't know they made an animated Quintet.
Just watched this movie for the first time earlier this year, nice.
Matt, I think your experience with The Big Lebowski is pretty common. I hated it the first time I watched it. I gave it another chance and 'got it' the second time. The moment the ferret goes into the bathtub I became a fan. haha
I just saw this movie recently! Was really good!
Cleveland Amory died of an abdominal aortic aneurysm. I guess he couldn't stomach Monty Python to the end.
At the end of the last scene I did the exact thing you guys did . I there my arms out and yelled “ What??”
The first time I watched The Big Lebowski, one of my first thoughts was "If the slightest thing was different about this movie, I would hate it." But it's great.
5:29 Looooool, well played 🤣
7:23 Missed opportunity for a “Fa loves Pa” joke 😄
Doug is good value.
Seen it: Falling in Love (1984)? It seemed to go a bit under the radar when it came out but it is such a wonderfully written and acted film, it's become one of my favorites. Very much in the same vein as Once.
Seen it? His Motorbike, Her Island (1986) From the director of Hausu. Beautiful Movie!
I know so much about 1973 cinema at this point
Hes back! Yessssss!!!
That was a great pitch for Slug Shield. Ought to have had that for Snake Oil Salesman.
Bonus kitty! ❤
Seen It? Robert Altman's O.C. & Stiggs. Dennis Hopper, Jane Curtain, John Cyer, My Favourite Martian Guy, Martin Mull and King Sunny Ade. Also: Gillamonster.
Groovy science fiction. Very trippy. It does make more sense on LSD.
8:53 Ah The Homer Simpson Method of Fighting!!
Jupiter!!
6:00 When the whole squad wears red to the Meeting.
I'm calling it now: Barry Bostwick is the new Lost Weekend bat.
Interesting. I’ve seen multiple pictures of the humans fighting while strapped to the blue shark worm things, but I always assumed it was as something the giants forced enslaved people to do, not a voluntary (at least on one side) activity engaged in by free people.
The first time I did mushrooms I did watch this movie (for the third time) and I must say it did enhance the experience
Battlefield Earth had a similar theme.
I can't pick a favorite co-host now that Craig has more or less retired, but Doug has always been a favorite on Beer and Board Games and the same remains true here
Excellent choice for the Cartoon June kickoff! I always thought at heart Fantastic Planet was meant as a colonialism/xenophobia fable set in a place that was supposed to be incomprehensible to us humans, since our species is the downtrodden 'degraded' society in this narrative. It's just a bonus that you can watch it stoned out of your gourd and still have a great time taking in the bizarre, beautiful imagery and amazing music.
I hope you'll review Les Maitres du Temps and Gandahar by the same director.
Way to wear that shirt!
Doug kind of looks like older Charlie Chaplin
Expected a cross between _Fantastic Voyage_ and _Forbidden Planet_ .... and I was completely wrong.
If David Firth wrote the Bible.
I was 15..perhaps, it was written on drugs, for those who do drugs... naw.. Czechoslovakia came out with some bizarre and interesting things.. I know..I'm half Czech.
So i have a strange relationship with the big Lebowski. It came out 9 months before i was born. There may or may not be a connection there, but that is a question i am never going to ask my parents, so it will always be a strange possibility for me.
serious man i always thought was about morality… as soon be as he compromises his morals by changing the grade of his student, he gets the bad call from his doctor… and a storm appears on the horizon.
Ope, looks like Siskel was right.
You needed to have your "mind altered with chemicals" to think it was a good idea to do an animal rights allegory and a colonialism allegory with the same groups at the same time.
Is Matt catsittting or is the cat humansitting?
It really seemed like what they were going for in concept was something purely intellectual. Whether intentional or not, this meant the movie completely sacrificed any semblance of an emotional core, which I think is why you can follow the ideas they're exploring easily enough, though in a totally cold and indifferent way. For example, I grasp the significance of the Oms being treated like vermin, yet when Oms get killed, I feel almost nothing at all. So, we can appreciate the themes, but we can't really empathize with the characters or connect with them in any meaningful way. It's therefore not much of a surprise that the film ends as abruptly as it does. It reminded me of the trope about how in movie scripts, action scenes are often simply denoted with something like, "...and then the two armies fight", and so it's ultimately left to the filmmakers to interpret that and fill in the blanks; with this movie, it was as though the script read, "...and then the two civilizations agree to live in peace," except there was no artistic interpretation beyond literally just cutting to them flatly stating they agree to live in peace, and them BAM -- movie instantly done, roll credits. Very bizarre approach. Still, the art style and imagery were very interesting, and I quite liked how creative and imaginative it all was. I _think_ I basically enjoyed it, but it's not something I'm going to be eager to watch again.
Sigh. I will still listen to bill cosby stand up. But I still feel icky enjoying it.
The whole thing when a serious man came out was that it was the coen bros take on the book of job much like the odyssey with o brother did Matt Really not know that ? Literally every review when it came out brought it up
Is this what Star Trek sounds like to non-Star Trek fans? Also, how do we get "Fantastic" from "Sauvage"? Wouldn't the English title be "Savage (or Wild) Planet"?
Probably not a translation, in this case, but a straight up change. They might have thought "Fantastic Planet" would hold more appeal. Certainly sounds more hippie/pot-head friendly.
With the exception of Juliette Nicholson, August Osage County is completely miscast.
The art style of this movie was so off-putting and unsettling that I could barely watch the whole episode. It’s weird, I’ve never felt like that about a movie before.
Interesting input 🤔 Back in college the homies and I couldn't get enough of this movie. Then again we used to watch everything .. ON WEEED! 🥴💨
@@artsnjunklol idk if being high would make it better or worse for me! Thankfully Matt and Doug’s commentary make the episode worth watching.
i think this film is a great critique of colonialism and the dehumanization that occurs under it, also the score kicks ass
This is how i love my Animation, Depressing and Dystopian....im lying....i hate this.
I feel like this film would be greatly improved by making it a short instead of feature length.
I keep trying to watch Big Lebowski to see what the big deal is. I gots nothing. It's at best a C+ movie for me.
All these new co hosts do a decent enough job but are so far from the sheer witted charisma that Craig so effortlessly brought to the show.
Anybody knows why he left?
He is sorely missed.
The Communion/Eucharist and drinking Christ's blood is actually from the Gospels in the New Testament.
I prefer Rene Laloux other animated movie Gandahar over this one.
I don't like Monty Python so I'm still on the wrong side of history.
If you are a woman, you are in the majority among "your kind". Women, famously, tend not to enjoy MP.
The Big Lebowski sucks
I strongly disagree, but I admire the courage to come out and say that in a forum where 75% or more will disagree. Good on you!
The holy mountain was a better tripping movie I think this one would fill me with Existential dread