NTSB investigators reviewing YouTube videos of rebuilt plane involved in deadly Chesco crash
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- The airplane involved in a deadly crash near Coatesville, Pennsylvania, had been the subject of an aircraft salvage TH-cam channel that is now being reviewed by federal investigators.
The Gruman GA-7 Cougar airplane crashed shortly after it took off from Chester County Airport around 1:39 p.m. Thursday, killing the pilot, 65-year-old Sam Ganow.
The victim was a longtime member of the Octorara Area School District.
According to a group that calls itself 'Rebuild Rescue,' the aircraft had been purchased and rebuilt after a previous crash. The plane was the subject of several TH-cam videos that documented how the plane was rebuilt and eventually flown.
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Oh man, Sam from Rebuild Rescue who donated the plane they’re working on. R.I.P. Sam, you were a great asset and ambassador to the private pilot community.
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The cougar isn't the one he donated. It was a prop strike they bought in Michigan and went through it and flew it back to Pennsylvania. So it's odd that it crashed this time.
A&P mechanic here. I watched a few of the videos and didn't see anything wrong. It's TH-cam so I know they don't show everything but what they showed seemed like they did everything right.
It's sad. He just fueled up and from what I can see it looks like the right engine quit. He struggled to gain altitude and speed and at the very end reports are he was well below minimum control speed. From the wreckage it looks like a stall-spin. He was only a couple hundred feet above and well below the altitude needed to safely recover from a stall-spin. In that plane an engine out on take off is the worst possible thing that could go wrong and it is one of the most difficult things to deal with. I'm sure "pilot error" will be included in the final report but it's not really fair. You have half a second to make a decision and most decisions you make are going to be the wrong ones and you don't get a do over.
I've been in the hanger when planes have gone down and the first you hear about it is when investigators show up looking for records and to talk to mechanics who worked on the plane. Do not assume Rescue Rebuild did anything wrong here. It's normal for them to dig into the maintenance records and any evidence they can for the condition of the plane before hand.
Prayers to everyone affected by the loss.
Well said
Who do you work for? Where did you compile this information for?
Good perspective. I assume they won't be rescuing it a 2nd time.
Just fueled up, could be water or dirty fuel filter. No one ever seems to sump after a fuel up.
But even if anyone sumps right after fueling, there isn’t enough time for any water to settle to the bottom of the tanks@@glennanderson-zv1yd
I am a retired airline pilot. I have watched every single video of Rebuild Rescue working on this plane. It is clear that they went beyond what the regulations require in repairing all damage and making sure the airplane was airworthy. The engines had just been thoroughly examined by a company that specializes in such things and given a clean bill of health. I absolutely agree that the FAA and NTSB should examine all the videos and the attendant paperwork with a fine-tooth comb. After all the work, an extensive annual inspection was performed and then reviewed and signed off on by a different certified aircraft mechanic with Inspection Authorization credentials. That, of course, doesn't guarantee that there were no hidden problems, but it does tend to show that the folks involved did all they could do.
All possible causes are still on the table. Structural failure, engine failure, pilot error: all these and other things must be considered and ruled in or out. Many aircraft accidents are the result of a combination of factors. I say let the professionals do their job and find the real root cause(s). If there is fault or blame of any kind found, the FAA will take whatever action they deem appropriate. The NTSB does not assign blame. They determine the cause and recommend changes in rules or procedures that may help avoid similar accidents in the future.
Hidden Problems after all the BS "paperwork" cleared I Guess their plane inspection SYSTEM ARE FLAWED?
I hope the youtube channel owner cooperates and fully lets them investigate to the full extent accidents like this need to be looked at fully so others don’t make the same mistakes. Hopefully they find out the cause quickly and this man’s death wasn’t in vain.
@@Chellz801 I would be shocked if Rebuild Rescue refused to allow the NTSB and FAA full access to the videos, and the raw unedited footage as well. If that very unlikely situation does happen, well, that's what subpoenas are for.
I agree with you can I add to your table the cause : Medical Episode
Looking at the wreckage, I suspect an engine lost power shortly after takeoff and the aircraft dropped a wing and spun in from relatively low altitude.
The ‘scorpion tail’ rear fuselage is indicative of a stall-spin impact.
While this is only a preliminary suggestion, I’d put money on it being what the investigation concludes.
I found Rebuild Rescue when the "Free Abandoned Airplane" videos were randomly suggested in my feed. Sam was such a joy to see on screen. He will be missed by millions around the world.
Same and I've watched them ever since. That explains why there hasn't been a video out in 2 weeks
@@a4s2reckonwith yeah i ask why no video im looking from first video when they find "bird house"
Sad. I watch the channel all the time. RIP Sam
R-I-P Sam. May Your Friends, & Family, Celebrate Your Life, & Passions!
This is insane, I've been watching Rebuild Rescue for 2 years now. RIP Sam.
This is a tragedy and the guys at Rebuild Rescue are great people, I'm so very sorry about Sam.
I watched all the videos with interest, Sam was a kind man and a professional and reliable pilot, I was sorry to hear about the accident, my condolences to his family, Jason and the entire crew, I hope you recover and fly the 401 soon in his honor, he would certainly have wanted to fly this plane. Very unfortunate and sad
Rebuilding a salvageable aircraft is not a problem if done correctly and legally. Although possible, this is likely not the cause of the accident. Will be interesting to see what the problem was. Prayers for the pilot’s family.
No its most likely pilot error/ engine failure/malfunctions, all from choosing to pilot an older and rebuilt plane, which just sounds extremely selfish and could have been completely avoidable. People died so some guy could pad his ego or save money
in terms of an automobile, good luck in getting insurance on a car with a salvage title
@@MatthewSevens”older rebuilt plane” 😂 Most general aviation planes are 50 to 60 years old. In that time they’ve been disassembled, checked, parts replaced then reassembled and that’s been done over and over again many times in its lifetime. Juan Brown from Blancolirio channel flies a 1959 Cessna Twin. 65 years old ! That’s very common.
@@davediamond9436 areoplanes don't have titles.
@@MatthewSevens I want to wait for more info to come out before I go the route of greed. I didn't see anything alarming, but I also assumed they did a lot behind the scenes. It's a YT channel that's meant to be entertaining. I'm assuming some of the drama is manufactured. There's nothing wrong with flying a 40 or 50 yo plane. It's been a while since I've been at UPS but they didn't scrap their DC-8's till they were about 40 years old and that was because of how much fuel they used.
The plane should not have crashed just because an engine went out. But, who knows, there may have been contaminated fuel and one engine failed and the other was on it's way out too. Lots of questions still.
I've been in the hanger when planes have gone down and the NTSB/FAA grab everything and interview everyone who's worked on the plane. If corners were cut it will come out and they will hold people accountable.
I was expecting and rebuild rescue episode and to see this news my jaw dropped in disbelif.
Soo extremely sad - My heart goes out to Sams Family ! Both biological as well as extended ;-----((( .....
As contradictory as it may sound to some, losing an engine on a light twin is potentially more hazardous than losing an engine in a single -engine aircraft, especially after takeoff.
"losing an engine on a light twin is potentially more hazardous than losing an engine in a single -engine aircraft"
That's what I've learned from watching Blancolerio.
I didn't watch Rebuild Rescue myself but from what I've heard they did things correctly.
I hope Sam's family is OK.
So much so that there should probably be N hours of mandatory simulator time every 6 months to keep your ME rating current. Your "instinctive" reactions are almost always the wrong moves on twins. The engine-out drill needs to be in muscle memory.
Only if your not a pilot and your not proficient in single engine operation, certification requires that a twin can take off climb to a specified ceiling maintain that ceiling and land all on one engine, no way am I flying over vast waters or in hard IMC unless in a twin., the difference with a single engine, if it quits your going down like it or not, ready or not, with a twin you have additional options.
@@rjeautomotive6545per certification regs, a light twin is not required to demonstrate any positive single engine performance. A twin certificated under part 25 is required to have positive single engine performance.
Most light twins lose 80% of their performance with an engine out. Leaves little room for error.
I've been watching them for a year now, my deepest condolences to the family and the rescue team.
Comm pilot/ MEI/ engineer here, I’m going to guess engine failure and vmc roll which occurs 90% of the time, light twins are not required to have any climb performance if an engine fails, and even though pilots are required to demonstrate an engine failure on a practical test a real world failure is different. And airplanes aren’t the same as automobiles, A&Ps perform inspections on the aircraft’s structure and engine and can change components as needed, almost every general aviation aircraft flying today is like 60 years old
These light twins are reliable. "With one engine failure there is always power to reach the scene of the crash." Unknown
@@Plutogalaxygo to any general aviation airport that that has awnings and you will see what he's talking about. I'm a privatw pilot and have maybe 6 different planes in my log book. I think the newest one is a 1980 model.
@@Plutogalaxyhis point is pretty plain he means VAST MAJORITY of GA aircraft especially multi engine trainers are going to be older from the 60s-80s. The ratio of old GA aircraft to new GA is at least 10:1. Cirrus made what 10-15k planes?. Cessna and piper have made over 100,000+ majority of which are before 1980. Especially multi engine aircraft it’s a notorious joke in GA that almost all multi engines are ancient.
Come on man you know what he meant don’t be a jerk about it.
@@Plutogalaxy i guess you don’t spend much time at small airports. cirrus don’t make up most of the fleet. Cessna built 44000 172s, countless 150s, then there are all the others. A cirrus is a million bucks. Only the top .1% can afford them.
I agree, but Vmc is 2 kts slower that Vs in the GA7.
Clarification: when they say the plane was previously in a crash, all that happened was that it suffered a prop strike (the propeller hit the runway during an unstable landing). The propellers were replaced and the engine thoroughly inspected. No further damage was done to the airplane in that previous "crash".
Thoroughly inspected doesn’t mean anything, anyone with a magnifying glass working for a shade tree shop can say they thoroughly inspected the engine. An old fart A@P working in the corner of a hangar isn’t the same as re-certified machine shop.
@@tropicthndr What's a thorough inspection? That isn't defined in any FAA publication.
Same for re-certified machine shop? There is no such thing in FAA lingo . . .
@@buckmurdock2500it's a re-certified comment... Lol.. Friggin experts are everywhere..
@@tropicthndr Why the ageism brah? Reported.
@@tropicthndrDang, are you a TH-cam lawyer too? I've never met a TH-cam A&P before you!
May Sam from Rebuild Rescue rest in peace 😢❤
So so sorry! I like the community of Rebuild Rescue youtubers is devastated about Sam's demise. Can't imagine what Jason and the team are going through! My thoughts and prayers to Sam's family and the team of Rebuild Rescue!😢
Preliminary is out and it doesn't look good for team RR and the pilot. Negligence and carelessness abound.
I am an avid fan of rebuild rescue, and Sam was an integral part of the team! It is imperative that the FTSB investigate, and find what went wrong to prevent this from happening again, and saving someone else’s life!
engine fail followed by loss of control.
Would also be good for an objective investigation, hopefully to clear the rebuild team from any malpractice so they can get on with their lives without guilt
I'm in Australia..it's Sunday morning n I just got online to watch the latest episode of Rescue...n this is the first thing I see...devestated ..
RIP Sam. ..🙏
Me too mate, this is not what I wanted to be watching for breakfast. RIP Sam. Condolences to Sam's family and friends, and I hope Jason and the RR guys are ok.
Me too - it's part of my Sunday morning routine - I have no flying or mechanical expertise but I am impressed with Jason and crew's seemingly meticulous focus on safety with their rebuilds. RIP Sam.
Missing gasket on right tank, water and debris in right carb. Shadetree work doesn't work for aircraft. I'll bet the a&p mechanic that lent his name to someone else's work ain't gonna do that again...
Water in fuel. One of the caps had no seal and plane sat in rain. Pilot neglected to sump the tanks prior to takeoff and there was no checkflight after repairs were completed as I understood it.
very common theme at the RR hangar. Getting video fodder takes precedence over technical accuracy. So many red flags since they featured the first airplane video.
if you read the rest of the ntsb preliminary report they got water samples from both tanks when they ran the booster pumps. its very likely bad fuel from the truck but it doesn't excuse not sumping the tanks before takeoff. the gasket not being installed is also a red flag but its not necessarily the main cause. im sure we will find out more once the rest of the investigation is completed.
RR wasted no time throwing Sam under the bus and putting 100% of the blame for the crash on him.
NTSB Preliminary Report released and revealed that there was water and dirt in the right engine carburator, and the right fuel cap gasket was not installed. How does a fuel cap with no gasket get past an annual inspection?
Don’t worry, the mechanics will swear the gasket was there.
That is shocking. RIP Sam and love to your family and the guys at RBR
I knew Sam, kind and gentle he was. Good Pilot too. Rest in peace Sam.
Amen. My condolences for your loss.
I am very sorry for your loss ;( I totally agree , I already feel the emptyness .
My heart goes out to Jason and the rest of the team at this time and how truly devastated they mut all be over the loss of Sam, God rest him and God bless the whole team.
I wondered why my favorite you tube channel didn’t post a video on schedule. 😢
My heart is broken, Sam was the reason rebuild rescue exists, and huge part of it. I know Jason, who led the rebuild efforts, will be absolutely devastated and in his head wondering if a mistake he made led to the crash and his friend’s death. I hope not, but if there’s any chance of that it may be the end of the rebuild rescue dream. Absolutely tragic crash. 😢
Jason posted a short YT video shortly after the accident, announcing the death of SAM.. But that video was quickly removed from YT...
I love that channel and the guys are really hard working, top notch people. I hope investigators can sort out what happened. Condolences to the Rebuild Rescue guys
What an absolute shame! Prayers for his family and friends 🙏
I watch the channel with an interest on the engineering aspect being an engineer and pilot, from what I have seen they go all out in doing great work and will not cut corners or leave things to chance, could be anything that caused an engine to quit on take off, with water contamination being possible having just been fuelled, my personal belief is the FAA do not advocate enough engine out take off training on twins, this particular model is very marginal with its single engine climb out performance typically about 300ft a min, though weight, balance, and density altitude where clearly no factors being single occupant, and where it was being operated, it is known for being docile and easy to control even in single engine performance. Ultimately the crash cause will more than likely be, not maintaining core priorities( air speed and configuration with obstacle avoidance) as a result of being overwhelmed by events because of insufficient current awareness training on single engine performance on this type specific aircraft. another reason why I believe all twins should require type approval as a licencing requirement. Sometimes as pilots we have to ultimately resolve to simply controlling the crash, and that is where the reluctance and issues are, accepting reality in good time and making credible decisions by simplifying the choice, no climb performance, having no idea what caused the one engine to quit, then you quickly pick the most survivable spot away from other human life and control the crash by flying all the way into the selected site, otherwise what control do you have and how have you demonstrated you were in control of what you had control of if you do not survive?
Excellent comment...thank-you. You made some VERY good points about training and current awareness.
This is very rough to see a plane that you've followed getting back into the air, watch how they work on the plane and brought her back to life. Sad state of affairs this one is😢
The GA7 VMC is below Vs and SE climb rate is ~160fpm under ideal conditions. The second engine simply took him to the scene of the crash.
The POH says Vmc is 61kts and single engine best rate of climb is 85 kts - 200 fpm
@@jeffbrubaker5228 VSO is 63kts.
First clue the plane is underpowered.
@@LandYacht I'm just stating what is printed in the POH
And you are correct. (I have a few hundered hours in the GA7.) It stalls before it does a VMC yaw/roll, which is why I think the second engine took him to the scene of the crash. SE performance is truly pathetic, as with most light twins. @@jeffbrubaker5228
RIP Sam.. fly high..prayers for all😢🙏
Oh wow, I'm in shock. Sam will be missed, rest in peace; your legacy will live in.
The crash scene, and the twisted nature of the tail and fuselage, are indicative of a spin. Asymmetric thrust, possibly a failure of the left engine, and failure to maintain Vmc.
I don't think the GA 7 had a Vmc .It stalls before that.
@@bermudarailway that's a clue that it's an underpowered twin
Piece of flying trash killed an innocent pilot. Watch the Gov twiddle their thumbs and claim pilot error? While the engine probably stalled?
Sensationalism; light aircraft are often rebuilt after damage, they are mostly hand built in the first place, so rebuilds and repairs are not unusual, novel or dangerous. This crash appears to have a largely vertical descent component, so investigators will likely be looking at the possibility of a stall/spin accident. These can be the result of the loss of an engine followed by loss of control, caused by asymmetrical thrust, as the aircraft slows below VMC, (minimum controllability speed), where one good engine is pulling on one side only. The NTSB will go over the circumstances and forensic evidence, and even though they don't always get it right, like they did to Trent Palmer, they have the tools to bring out the evidence.
Sensationalism? What the hell are you talking about? Unlike you, they didn't even speculate on the cause.
The saddest part is the victims face the same judgment we will all face, including you, milktoast.
The plane was parked in a hanger for a time after a prop strike
Dam I watch there videos every week sad to see sam passed away before the 401 could be finished
With how the media normally reports on aviation news and accidents, this is outstanding! Well researched, produced, and accurate.
Oh boy…..Sam, you will be greatly missed 😢
Funny how ALL the COMMENTS are Turned OFF with this Airplane being fixed on Rebuild Rescue Channel but the videos are still up for 😶views & 👎likes
The Grumman Cougar is not the best twin for SE performance, especially with an engine failure right after take off. One has to be 110% or better, on their game to safely climb out in such a situation, and if there’s any performance degradation issues the plane will not climb on 1 engine. Sad to see this happen, I’ve enjoyed following the rebuilding of the other airplane.
At SL, standard temp day, prop feathered, flown with perfect rudder input, max power on running engine, max gross weight the climb performance is 188/200 fpm. Again everything perfect.
Thank-you for your information. I hate to say this, but...Sam was in his mid-60's (and I am 66), and our reflexes DO get a bit slower as we age. Maybe he had not practiced or thought about this particular "scenario" recently...(just my thoughts). From what you've said, one would have to be ready and fast-thinking in this plane/situation. RIP, Sam.
Why are we not hearing from Rebuild Rescue ?
Two weeks now, this is becoming a shame
Probably following advice of his legal team.
They posted one today.
They posted a message about it, why would they make a video about it right away?
the video yesterday shows 5 min of Sam, 6 min of ads from the usual lame sponsors, then the rest of the video is all about Jason and how great he is ! !
Oh no Sam! He was such a big part of the rescue channel. Loved the series, sorry for his family and friends.
Most crashes are pilot error, not mechanical failure.
Most engine stoppages are from “no fuel”, not mechanical failures.
A&P/IA
If you watch their episode of this aircraft, the right wing had issues, never caught up to what was the fix, but it did have engine issues….
That plain didn't crash from pilot error lol
@stevennagley3407 the plane had the annual done and everything was inspected by a certified tech deemed safe to fly it's made many trips to Florida and back with no issues.has nothing to do with rebuild rescue.
@@jerrywilcox9890 I said “most” “Lol”
@@user-nx6qr1mt6fthat man could fly a plane with his eyes closed.that plane has been to Florida and back many times and all over since it was on the channel.
I’m sure that business is above board, but…. “I wonder if I should post this?” Ever asked yourself that question? What a shame…
Tail winds and clear skies Sam. 😢
I stopped flying twins into my 50’s . I don’t even take a single in hard IFR any more . Being an engineer I don’t trust the hardware or my aging brain. My personal minimums are ridiculous, but I am alive. I flew twins in my 20’s and 30’s for the feel good, big balls, show off factor, no real good reason. One mistake they will kill you
Remember Scott Crossfield - famed test pilot that tangled with a Level 4 thunderstorm in a 1960 210 - because of a lapse in broadcast and real time weather - he wasn't seeing and realizing what he was heading into before it was too late.
My condolences to Sam's family, I'm sure he wil be missed. Rest in peace Sam.
This so sad. Sam was such a huge part of the channel.
I'm guessing engine out. These light twins seem more dangerous than single GA aircraft. Do all the right things quickly when losing an engine on takeoff, or else.
Yes, they require a lot of careful planning and a pilot has to be on his "A" game for a successful outcome.
Water leaked into the fuel through the refill. Seals deteriorated. The pilot did not inspect the fuel for water contamination. Lacks preflight management.
Oh damn! I remember him from an abandoned cessna video and then it registered. R.I.P
I have been watching rebuilt rescue for a long time, cant believe this
There are no more hazards on that plane now! 😱
He just patches them up for the views. He’s made millions from donations
Rest in Peace Sam… we'll miss you so much…
Now can you guys get all the rebuilt cars off the road that keep crashing.
They give the snobby Tesla drivers a headache.
Also perhaps you can install restaurant style fire restraint systems for all the EV's out there.
‘C’mon man!!
This is terrible, terrible news.
Although nothing to do with the cause of the crash, Sam’s BasicMed physical expired August 2023. He did the course requirement, but not the physical. Thus he was not legal to act as PIC when this happened.
That and he neglected to sump the tanks prior to the flight because he was in a hurry.
Unfortunate yet preventable incident. RIP Sam
It’s a stall/spin incident probably post engine failure.
Oh man I was wondering what happened to him. That's awful
RIP Sam.
Oh no. RIP Sam.
Had a busy weekend and just finding out about this. Have watched every 410 video to date, and the rebuild of this Cougar. I'm blown away... Damnit.
I'm a certified youtube pilot, youtube cave diver, youtube skin doctor, and youtube lawyer, so I can say that everything on youtube is honest and trustworthy. :)
In the last video flying home, they mentioned that they experienced vibration in the right engine. After they're 2 hour flight I would have inspected the oil filter for metal shavings considering the prop strike history.
The videos of the restoration will be helpful. They had a licensed mechanic work on it and sign off. The videos will just provide further evidence that correct processes were followed.
Yikes! That's not good.@@shabalabawigman1130
The NTSB found a missing gasket on the right wing fuel tank cap, and there was water and debris in the fuel system all the way up to the right engine carb.
Looks like stall spin
Wow! Just Wow!
This is typical media sensationalism. Very old aircraft are routinely and safely operated. One example, the primary fleet of bombers at the ready to offend U.S. enemies are >60 years old, B-52 bombers. Another example, a major U.S. airline operates a fleet of aircraft that are 30 years old.
GA7 worst light twin I ever flew.Poor performance and heavy controls ,especially when taxi-ing
Not many Cougars around for a reason, nobody wants to feel like they've been in a marathon after every flight. RIP Sam.
What went wrong is simple. Lift < Gravity. It is why all planes crash.
Now will it get rebuilt and fly again. Third tome is a charm.
Your parents should have stopped you from eating lead paint flakes and dust as a child . . .
oh my god i didn't know this is what happened to Sam. so tragic :(
Bad deal. Sad situation. One of my favorite youtube channels. There's no way there was any intentional harm done.
No one has suggested “intentional damage”. But what do we really know from watching highly edited YT videos…
So that's what caused his death😢
I've watched their video of this rebuild a while ago.
RIP so sad 😢. Watched the video of them flying this plane the other day
He was an experienced pilot
First, the mechanics must be licensed by the FAA. Second, the plane cannot leave ground until the FAA inspector the work. Having previously crashed, the first required inspection was the airframe.
Sounds like the pilot may have not worked on engine out procedures. There hundreds of thousands of rebuilt / refurbished aircraft in the sky everyday, that -is not news.
Waiting for Juan Brown's take.
@finfinfin Me 2
yes, the professional speculators are more credible.
Inbound- thanks. jb
Water in the fuel.
Light twins will bite you if you let it. An engine failure on take off, you have to make the decision what you are going to do before the take off roll. I never flown a Gruman Couger. I did my twin rating in a Piper Aztec, a D model. You lose 80 to 90 % of climb performance with an engine failure. Its best to just close the throttles and fly straight ahead. It will be interesting to see what happened here and why.
It takes a brave person to fly in an old plane. In my honest opinion we should leave these old planes alone. They are old and unreliable. The material they are made of is fragile. Aviation is amazing but just like daily driving every time you sit down in the seat no matter airplane or vehicle or water craft anything can happen. Prayers to all the families involved and god speed Sam. Maybe a lesson was learned from this unfortunately someone lost thier life and theres nothing more precious than your life.
I'm actually in shock about this. Sam was such a nice and knowledgeable pilot.
So sad rip Sam always will be missed
Holy Crap. I've been watching this plane get restored on rebuild rescue. This is a shock
Biological hazards.....nice thing for you to say FAA.
RIP Sam, we will miss you!
No fire…🧐
No, they don't always burn when crashed. Come to think of it, I have seen three crashes but no fires. A Super Cup, a Maule and a wooden homebuilt.
They are making it sound as an A&P wasn't involved in the rebuild.
If you watch the videos you will see there were qualified people involved, they are just usually in the background of the videos.
Still with us Jason
Is that another plane that passes very quickly across the screen just prior to the announcer saying "absolutely stunning" as Airforce One is about to land?
OMG!! THAT'S what happened to Sam!! R. I. P.
The investigators will find something to pin the youtubers.
It’s not a criminal investigation ding dong.
My guess would be, Pilot's failure to maintain control of the aircraft. Contributing factors could be loss of #1 or #2 engine. The reason for the possible engine failure has yet to be determined. Fairly typical.
That plane went down there was something wrong.
read the report when it gets published and learn@@jerrywilcox9890
Yep, that is a typical NTSB report for the cause… meaning they never figure it out.
of which still has to be properly inspected and signed off by an FAA certified inspector......your ignorance is bliss @mipmipmipmipmip
This is the single engine plane, not the 401 that has two engines that they are rebuilding completely.
I'd love to see those maintenance log book entries.
It passed its annual inspection by a certified tech so it's not rebuild rescues fault.its flew many times after it was on the channel.
@@jerrywilcox9890 Yes, but were all the record keeping requirements of Part 43 complied with? That's an owner/operator responsibility. They've already been slapped once by the FAA for maintenance records infraction.
The slap they received had to do with record on a plan from prior to their acquisition. The investigation was due to an off runway excursion resulting from a blown tire, which was caused by runway debris during takeoff.
And no, this plane had full records.
This is a tragedy, but based on everything i have seen, and I've watched every video, i have not seen anything resembling a cavalier mentality after the first few videos with the 401.
@@buckmurdock2500 it has all the records it wouldn't pass if they didn't lol
@@buckmurdock2500 that was from pin in the tire from the runway when taking off it wasn't a slap he has no way of knowing he picked something up on the runway lol.
I remember when those were new.... even took a demo flight and considered get. Its a big airplane with not big engines. I would hate to be in an engine out in one. Sad, Sam had lots of hours in them, but it was a worst case scenario 😊
From watching the videos it passed it’s annual inspection and was test flown
and?
RIP Sam
This is my favorite show on TH-cam I can’t believe it this happens so sad .