Considering the video's description, I'm guessing he meant Power Wagon killer and they never refilmed the scene. That's giving him the benefit of the doubt tho.
Because people don’t do research, and there are some mall crawler youtubers that are calling it a “Daddy Raptor”. (I am sure there are some Ford Salespeople doing the same). It’s a great truck for the person that needs to tow, and get off road, or needs the space of a Super Duty for whatever activities they are engaged with.
@@ferretsmiles first it comes second so yeah that's a competitor. No there is a point that no other car comes in to both aspects. Other company's stick to what they're good at. While Ford tries to find a perfect in between. But it was a no oh good enough to both aspects. It was more of a need of you can beat me in the others aspect. Meaning Paddy wagon can't beat a tremor and towing. And the differences is the way you put it, in reverse. Paddy wagon doesn't even come close. It's more like the good enough in towing. The GMC same thing an off road capability. I became a tremor fan because of what it can do. When I look for something I look for something that could do everything I needed to do if possible. I wanted to be good at what it can do if not the best. So you got a truck that's the second best off-road truck. You got a truck that's the second best towing truck. It's not the second best at those things because it can do both. It's the second best in both aspects respectively.
That’s exactly what we were trying to disprove with this video. Everything that makes the Tremor worth buying is still intact, but the factory suspension that is barely different from a normal F-250 can be upgraded to achieve the performance that the truck is actually capable of off road.
@@CJCOffRoad gotcha thank you. I guess I hadnt looked closely at what the Tremor package all includes. It's the only way to get the front LSD, trail/crawl control, has longer vent tubes for the axles, and of course the unique styling elements.
@@mattranum it has longer breather tubes, a limited slip front diff, higher clearance bumpers, and trail/crawl control, plus the cosmetics. If you already plan to get different bumpers, a front locker, extend the breathing tubes, etc, then go with a normal F250. However, if you don't really want to do all of the above, the Tremor is outfitted pretty well and really only needs the improved suspension. If you don't plan on getting a front locker then the tremor package is worth it for the front LSD alone in my opinion.
I love the products used in this build and have personally owned a Carli Pintop 2.5 with deavers on my 2013 Superduty and it’s well worth the money. I would agree that a suspension, wheel, and tire setup like that would be an incredible from the factory but ballparking the cost of this build was probably around $15k which is a cost that most people couldn’t justify.
This truck is meant to be used for actual truck things. I always laugh at the idiots I see towing tool trailers with their aftermarket lifts and the nose of the truck is up in the air. I always tell people “if the contractor has a lifted truck, call a different contractor”.
I have the Carli 4.5 backcountry kit with pintops, and the progressive deaver leafs in the rear. On a 2016 f350. Truck rides like a caddilac. Used to beat me to death over bumps or railroad tracks. Now you don't even notice.
My buddy is a sales man for ram and ford. He explained the tremor vs powerwagon like this if you want a kick ass off roader buy the powerwagon. If you want a work truck/ a truck to tow your boat, toys, and RV, and still offroad then buy a tremor. Basically the tremor is a jack of all trades master of nothing.
I kind of agree, but If you get the Tremor with the 7.3 and add a front locker it’s very comparable to the PW. I really like that the Ford has the diesel option. I do wish the suspension was better.
Ford made it more to rival the Power Wagon but they didnt give it a front locker. Also Power Wagon and Raptor are two very different off road rigs. Raptor is a desert runner, PW is a crawler
@@Matts000 No, it really is not...It's better than open diff or limited slip, but it is NOT a 100% lockable locker. But this truck is NOT a serious rock crawler, so the torsen should be enough in 95-98% of situations...I wouldn't have any concerns over having it on this rig.
These companies make their off road vehicles to be “good enough” for occasional off roading. They’re not gonna throw king shocks on for you because not everyone is gonna drop that kind of cash on a stock truck, most people won’t. Nothing hardcore. After market parts will most likely be higher quality. Dope video. Simple and necessary upgrades. Exactly how I’d like my truck. Pretty much oem but with added quality and performance parts. #BlackVenom
Tremor was never meant to match or outdo the Raptor. I remember the Raptor intro, 100mph runs off road in the desert, Tremor intro was rock crawling(55:1 Crawl) and towing/hauling both of which the Raptor can not do. Plus to have a better off road Tremor one should get the light weight 7.3 not the 6.7 thats in the video. For the $4k Tremor pack you get a bunch of off road software plus the small lift/33 inch water fording, the 55:1 crawl and 35 inch tires stock. The best thing about the Tremor is it starts at $53k and can be had for under $50k. If you want more, or just to go out and run with the sand rails one would be best to build a base 250.
Or if you want the appearance, the performance and longevity of a diesel, and the added electronics and options offered in the Tremor, you get this truck and add a capable suspension system to it for more off road ability. Seems like a win win to us and the customer felt the same!
mmm? longevity of diesel engines is a thing of the past considering all the emissions that are required on modern diesels. Well over double the maintenance cost. Only justification for a modern diesel truck is heavy towing performance which was almost eliminated with that progressive rear spring. You could literally buy 3+ 7.3l engines for the price of one Power stroke 6.7l replacement engine. Plus to do any major engine work to that Power stroke Diesel the cab has to come off the frame first which blows. Need I mention EGR cooler Problems, clogged particulate filters, DEF, Or shitty USA diesel that requires additives? Diesels and bitching aside, awesome video!
This wasn’t created to be a raptor killer or power wagon killer. It’s a better overall package then the power wagon. They retained the towing capacity and payload. Neither of which the power wagon really has. And it’s not an appearance package. It has a front limited slip, not available on any other super duty.
Your dead on with your comments. The host did mention the tremor is a tad bit better than a normal superduty offroad, which has proven to be correct. I fell it is a better overall package than the powerwagon for sure.
I just bought a Tremor and I really like your videos. They are very informative with no nonsense. I bought a F350 Tremor primarily for towing, but would really like to do some mild off-road stuff. Do the stock wheels and tires really look that bad with one of your kits? Do you recommend doing a more budget build than this if I'm not trying to do heavy off-road? Also I feel like I am the only person in the world that likes a raked look in a truck and doesn't care for leveling it. Especially when I go to haul something and the front end is sticking up. Is there a kit that doesn't lift or level the truck more than stock? I can't seem to find one. Is there a practically reason to level other than more clearance in the front? Either way, thank you very much for what you do!
I have an ‘18 F150 company pickup and an ‘18 F250 diesel. Both 4X4 crew cabs. They are two totally different animals. There is a lot of difference between them.
Your videos are as well done as your trucks. You have a big future. I look forward to it. Will look into where your located. Would like you to build my next Ford. Currently driving ‘19 f-450. Thanks again.
Been waiting on this one for a bit; although, I thought it was going to be the 4.5” one you guys did. This sits so perfect. One thing though - in the description you guys say the NRG’s are 37x13.5, but at time mark 11:14 I clearly see 37x12.5. Just FYI
2:44 I'm not saying it's a bad thing (because I like there to be some rake even after lifting/level) but dude, the stance is exactly the same (or even less rake) then the Carli systems sometimes. It's weird because sometimes I'll see one of your decked out Carli trucks and there will be a lot of rake and other times, with the same system, there won't be much. One of the reasons I like the Carli rear options is they usually leave you with some rake.
Yeah, the customer was totally off thinking the tremor was like a raptor. The tremor is a better offroad truck than a standard 250, but the tremor was not meant to be high speed offroader.
The tremor was for guys who want to off road but also be able to tow some real weight. Believe it or not the market and clientele is huge for this sort of thing. I didn't buy a raptor for that specific reason, because it wouldn't be able to tow my can ams and razers.
@@stephensaucedo6295 A Raptor can't tow your Side by sides? Lol, I've used my Raptor more than a few times to tow the mini excavator on a flatbed with zero issues at all. You should stick to the car market.
@@cencoast_7.340 some people would rather have a truck actually built for that. My 2005 Toyota Tundra could tow a mini excavator, it doesnt mean it's just as safe as an F250 or that I want to put that kind of strain on it. You're dumb.
Not to be "that guy" but can you start referring to this kit when used on the 2020 trucks as the 3.5in. kit as it is no longer a 2.5in. kit on 2020 trucks. Although with a Tremor it is a 2+-in. kit or something since it has a slight raise already.
Am I the only one that looked for the innov8 racing wheels because they look awesome, then were reminded how poor you are when you saw the per wheel price? 😂
Need to change the title and thumbnail of this video to represent the Carli commercial that it really is LOL this was never intended to be a Raptor killer LOL. And when you go over bumps 40% faster, you’re going to feel it less LOL
Ford will never do King shocks. I’ve mentioned it to all the guys that matter at Ford and it’s not an interest. They are just starting to embrace larger 35” tires. Being the owner of many trucks through the years with Carli Pintop’s, the best way to buy a Superduty is to get a Lariat, don’t buy the Tremor kit.... the ‘upgraded’ shocks are China made to Rancho specs and will be tossed in the trash, so will the wheels, .... buy the full Pintop kit which costs around $8500. The majority buyers of Carli kits have XLT trim...they don’t care about luxury, they only want ride quality.
It’s a very small penalty at most. The worst case scenario is with a carli full leaf pack which keeps 85% capacity. With the add a leaf or retained factory pack you keep full capacity.
Tremor Package is an appearence package? I am not buying that. It is a sticker with black wheels, but the difference is in the suspension shock system and driving modes. It is designed to give better off road performance while miantianing it ability to haul and pull like a beast and it does a damn good job from the factory. Can you enhance it with after market mods, Sure!
Picked up a 2019 f250 platinum last year and I can vouch it isnt a smooth ride at all daily driving. What’s the best setup to get a smooth ride at a decent price point. Looking to get airbags eventually and wheels and tires I would also like to level the truck.
The Tremor is not a Raptor or Power Wagon competitor. It's a Super Duty meant for work with a 1 step upgrade from fx4 packages. Tires, wheels, appearance. This is a tow rig for towing your off road toys to the camp or a work truck. Smart move by Ford, looks and capabilities with locker in back and limited slip up front. I put 2-4k in payload and believe me it will level that truck. Want to go fast? Go to Carli.
The goal of car manufacturers is to create a package and upgrades for $10 and sell it to you for $100. Anyone that’s a little more serious about off-roading knows aftermarket is the only way to go.
If you are going to be swapping tires, wheels, and suspension, the Tremor package at +$4k seems like a waste. The rear e-locker, which is the only thing that really matters, you can get without the Tremor package for about 500 bucks.
There's a lot more to the Tremor package! The suspension doesn't matter since it's just F-350 leaf packs, Fx4 shocks with a sticker, and 17-19 F-350 height front coils.
Is it absolutely necessary to get the comuter system if the truck won't see much or any offroad? Guess what I'm asking is if the pintop kit is good for a on road truck
@@CJCOffRoad that includes you guys too? Ford never said this was a "raptor killer" they're not that stupid lmao. The tremor is a offroad package, not a separate trim like the F150 raptor which is purposefully built for anything offroad.
I love those wheels. Im looking on your website at the exact same wheel in the black anodized color. What offset did the owner of this truck choose? I am on the fence between the 0mm, and the +12mm offset.
That would be stock F-250 payload. The Tremor has the same as a normal F-350 since they use the same leaf spring pack to give the Tremor a “factory lift.” That’s why all Tremors come with the max tow package.
Cody, what would be needed to stick 40" tires on this particular trim? Would you need to move the front axle forward an inch or so like the AEV RAM HD suspension?
It all depends on what's important to you! The Temor package does give you unique upgrades that you can't get anywhere else like extra waterproofing on the truck, a front limited slip, etc etc.
Great video and clean looking rig. Enjoy watching you guys and the awesome trucks you continually turn out. I have gone and configured a similar kit for my 2019 f350 on your site but I assume this doesn’t include labor. Any hints to what the all in, complete lift, labor, wheels tires is as of mid 2020?
Thanks for the support on the videos! You’re looking at around 600-800ish in labor depending on parts. Give us a call Monday through Friday if you want an exact quote.
Here's a video that should answer that question: th-cam.com/video/PwrD2F1J240/w-d-xo.html Typically the King rebuild interval is anywhere from 30-90k miles depending on how hard you drive the truck. It's similar to most shock setups!
Awesome. I’ve been considering the carli upgrade for a while. I do haul 1k in the bed from time to time as well as a 5k lb trailer. How much does this setup affect payload and towing?
The tremor package is for people who don't want to mod their truck but get a lifted stance with decent looking wheel/tire combo from the factory. I had $4,000 wheels on my last truck before it got t-boned by a drunk driver- car insurance doesn't cover their replacement over factory and have fun going through the effort and cost of suing someone for the difference, especially if they're a broke scumbag with a thousand creditors in line ahead of you.
if you are going to do a Pintop upgrade is there any point in ordering the Tremor package (e.g. what else do you get beyond suspension - assume i would upgrade the wheels to 37" too)?
It’s complicated since the new F-250 trucks now sit lower, so the Tremors sit at the old height essentially. The truck got the Carli 2.5” lift coils and full rear pack, which translates to a 2” front lift and 1” rear lift. On the standard 2020 F-250 that would be 3.5” of front lift and 1” of rear. The parts are the same from the 17+ trucks.
5:24 I don't know how that guy is going to get away with front side windows tinted that dark in California. The most I've ever done is one level down from that and have had issues even at that level.
We can only do so much when it’s a customer vehicle and we’re trying to finish the install in a timely manner. We’re appreciative customers let us film with their trucks at all!
Caution: Only Rich/gotta look cool products used in all vehicles..."Yeah but I'm going to keep it Forever!" (Oh shit, there's a new body style out?! Trade-in time!)
CJC Off my 2018 Raptor is build from the factory ready to run the dirt . Barstow to Vegas fast but i’m really curious to see a Video of someone jumping a tremor diesel. with your products . If it holds . my Tremor will be your next costumer
Absolutely since it comes with plenty of useful options like water fording axles, front limited slip diff etc etc. The suspension is nothing special so there’s no harm in ripping it off.
@@CJCOffRoad would that mean that on the '17-'19 trucks that they sit 1in. higher in the rear with this kit? All Super Dutys regardless of F-250-F-350 are sharing the same short block for 2020 right?
What kind of idiot would think ford made the tremor as a “raptor killer”?
Trenton Barrett lmao
Considering the video's description, I'm guessing he meant Power Wagon killer and they never refilmed the scene. That's giving him the benefit of the doubt tho.
Because people don’t do research, and there are some mall crawler youtubers that are calling it a “Daddy Raptor”. (I am sure there are some Ford Salespeople doing the same).
It’s a great truck for the person that needs to tow, and get off road, or needs the space of a Super Duty for whatever activities they are engaged with.
Probably the same idiot that would have two first names.
That was my first thought as well. Not to mention, it's meant to be a work truck.
This video is the first one I ever heard anyone comparing this truck to a raptor. It’s typically been compared to a power wagon and that’s it.
Actually many people still believe it;( never gonna happen!
Ford never claimed the Tremor package to be a Raptor killer. It competes with the Ram Power Wagon.
I wouldnt say it competes with the power wagon
MrYaxalot what would you call a super duty truck with some off-road modifications if not a power wagon competitor
@@ferretsmiles first it comes second so yeah that's a competitor. No there is a point that no other car comes in to both aspects. Other company's stick to what they're good at. While Ford tries to find a perfect in between. But it was a no oh good enough to both aspects. It was more of a need of you can beat me in the others aspect. Meaning Paddy wagon can't beat a tremor and towing. And the differences is the way you put it, in reverse. Paddy wagon doesn't even come close. It's more like the good enough in towing. The GMC same thing an off road capability. I became a tremor fan because of what it can do. When I look for something I look for something that could do everything I needed to do if possible. I wanted to be good at what it can do if not the best. So you got a truck that's the second best off-road truck. You got a truck that's the second best towing truck. It's not the second best at those things because it can do both. It's the second best in both aspects respectively.
@@mickalinjezerx7104 incomprehensible 🤣
Why start with a Tremor if you’re going to change out nearly everything that made it a Tremor in the first place?
That’s exactly what we were trying to disprove with this video. Everything that makes the Tremor worth buying is still intact, but the factory suspension that is barely different from a normal F-250 can be upgraded to achieve the performance that the truck is actually capable of off road.
@@CJCOffRoad gotcha thank you. I guess I hadnt looked closely at what the Tremor package all includes. It's the only way to get the front LSD, trail/crawl control, has longer vent tubes for the axles, and of course the unique styling elements.
So would you go with the regular 250f black package diesel and just upgrade it your self ? Or try and find the tremor and upgrade that?
@@mattranum it has longer breather tubes, a limited slip front diff, higher clearance bumpers, and trail/crawl control, plus the cosmetics. If you already plan to get different bumpers, a front locker, extend the breathing tubes, etc, then go with a normal F250. However, if you don't really want to do all of the above, the Tremor is outfitted pretty well and really only needs the improved suspension. If you don't plan on getting a front locker then the tremor package is worth it for the front LSD alone in my opinion.
Sell me your personal truck!
I love the products used in this build and have personally owned a Carli Pintop 2.5 with deavers on my 2013 Superduty and it’s well worth the money. I would agree that a suspension, wheel, and tire setup like that would be an incredible from the factory but ballparking the cost of this build was probably around $15k which is a cost that most people couldn’t justify.
This truck is meant to be used for actual truck things. I always laugh at the idiots I see towing tool trailers with their aftermarket lifts and the nose of the truck is up in the air. I always tell people “if the contractor has a lifted truck, call a different contractor”.
@@Idontwantahandle6669 a long as the contractor doesn't have a Honda Ridgeline I'm good 😂🤣😂
This is the perfect stance for this truck IMO. Just a clean, beefy looking truck. Those wheels though $1k a pop! Look amazing though!
Stock rims look better imo
LoL I just looked up the price of thoes wheels, and Gat Dam. 10k for a set of 4 with the bronze finish. They look sick tho.
@@chevyfan029 you're drunk
@@gavin4ford They do not cost 10k.
They did at the time I posted that comment. Have they dropped in price?
I had my dealership install the leveling kit with new springs left the 35’s doesn’t need to be any higher perfect the way it is, love my truck
Concise presentation. Another quality Carli product with excellent installation. Thank you for the absence of head banger music also.
So, you would rather hear Whitney Houston music on an HD truck video? (tongue firmly in cheek)...
I have the Carli 4.5 backcountry kit with pintops, and the progressive deaver leafs in the rear. On a 2016 f350. Truck rides like a caddilac. Used to beat me to death over bumps or railroad tracks. Now you don't even notice.
High dollar rig right there. Nice job on the setup
My buddy is a sales man for ram and ford. He explained the tremor vs powerwagon like this if you want a kick ass off roader buy the powerwagon. If you want a work truck/ a truck to tow your boat, toys, and RV, and still offroad then buy a tremor. Basically the tremor is a jack of all trades master of nothing.
Yes, I 100% completely agree.
The Tremor with that gas 7.3 is in a class of its own.
I kind of agree, but If you get the Tremor with the 7.3 and add a front locker it’s very comparable to the PW. I really like that the Ford has the diesel option. I do wish the suspension was better.
Mouthwatering content guys. Keep it up!
Great job. Now just peel that Tremor sticker off.
So glad I didn’t get the tremor now. Appearance and an extra drive mode is not worth 4k+. Can’t wait until my 2020 5.5 pintop system is installed!
I have to agree. I have been looking at a 2020 and really all you are getting is the software package if you upgrade a tremor.
Ketema, well said!
The fact that the suspension moves at all in those after shots is proof enough. I'm pretty sure our work trucks are tire suspension...
Ford made it more to rival the Power Wagon but they didnt give it a front locker.
Also Power Wagon and Raptor are two very different off road rigs. Raptor is a desert runner, PW is a crawler
The Tremor has the Raptors front torsen differential. It’s the same thing as a locker.
@@Matts000 No, it really is not...It's better than open diff or limited slip, but it is NOT a 100% lockable locker. But this truck is NOT a serious rock crawler, so the torsen should be enough in 95-98% of situations...I wouldn't have any concerns over having it on this rig.
These companies make their off road vehicles to be “good enough” for occasional off roading. They’re not gonna throw king shocks on for you because not everyone is gonna drop that kind of cash on a stock truck, most people won’t. Nothing hardcore. After market parts will most likely be higher quality. Dope video. Simple and necessary upgrades. Exactly how I’d like my truck. Pretty much oem but with added quality and performance parts. #BlackVenom
Tremor was never meant to match or outdo the Raptor. I remember the Raptor intro, 100mph runs off road in the desert, Tremor intro was rock crawling(55:1 Crawl) and towing/hauling both of which the Raptor can not do. Plus to have a better off road Tremor one should get the light weight 7.3 not the 6.7 thats in the video. For the $4k Tremor pack you get a bunch of off road software plus the small lift/33 inch water fording, the 55:1 crawl and 35 inch tires stock. The best thing about the Tremor is it starts at $53k and can be had for under $50k. If you want more, or just to go out and run with the sand rails one would be best to build a base 250.
Or if you want the appearance, the performance and longevity of a diesel, and the added electronics and options offered in the Tremor, you get this truck and add a capable suspension system to it for more off road ability. Seems like a win win to us and the customer felt the same!
mmm? longevity of diesel engines is a thing of the past considering all the emissions that are required on modern diesels. Well over double the maintenance cost. Only justification for a modern diesel truck is heavy towing performance which was almost eliminated with that progressive rear spring. You could literally buy 3+ 7.3l engines for the price of one Power stroke 6.7l replacement engine. Plus to do any major engine work to that Power stroke Diesel the cab has to come off the frame first which blows. Need I mention EGR cooler Problems, clogged particulate filters, DEF, Or shitty USA diesel that requires additives? Diesels and bitching aside, awesome video!
This wasn’t created to be a raptor killer or power wagon killer. It’s a better overall package then the power wagon. They retained the towing capacity and payload. Neither of which the power wagon really has. And it’s not an appearance package. It has a front limited slip, not available on any other super duty.
Your dead on with your comments. The host did mention the tremor is a tad bit better than a normal superduty offroad, which has proven to be correct. I fell it is a better overall package than the powerwagon for sure.
And how much to upgrade everything you did ?
I just bought a Tremor and I really like your videos. They are very informative with no nonsense. I bought a F350 Tremor primarily for towing, but would really like to do some mild off-road stuff. Do the stock wheels and tires really look that bad with one of your kits? Do you recommend doing a more budget build than this if I'm not trying to do heavy off-road? Also I feel like I am the only person in the world that likes a raked look in a truck and doesn't care for leveling it. Especially when I go to haul something and the front end is sticking up. Is there a kit that doesn't lift or level the truck more than stock? I can't seem to find one. Is there a practically reason to level other than more clearance in the front? Either way, thank you very much for what you do!
If you don't mind, send us an email to sales@cjcoffroad.com so we can help out and make the best recommendation!
I have an ‘18 F150 company pickup and an ‘18 F250 diesel. Both 4X4 crew cabs. They are two totally different animals. There is a lot of difference between them.
Your videos are as well done as your trucks. You have a big future. I look forward to it. Will look into where your located. Would like you to build my next Ford. Currently driving ‘19 f-450. Thanks again.
Been waiting on this one for a bit; although, I thought it was going to be the 4.5” one you guys did. This sits so perfect. One thing though - in the description you guys say the NRG’s are 37x13.5, but at time mark 11:14 I clearly see 37x12.5. Just FYI
The 4.5 video is coming! Probably next week.
If I opt for a Carli suspension build, is the Tremor upgrade worth it, or would I be better off just opting for the basic SuperDuty 4X4 package?
Thank You for your honest opinion that the Tremor package is just for looks. I was thinking the same thing. I can save me some money.
They stop putting Tremor on XLT's,you might see i high demand in 2022 for this. Sweet set up!
2:44 I'm not saying it's a bad thing (because I like there to be some rake even after lifting/level) but dude, the stance is exactly the same (or even less rake) then the Carli systems sometimes. It's weird because sometimes I'll see one of your decked out Carli trucks and there will be a lot of rake and other times, with the same system, there won't be much. One of the reasons I like the Carli rear options is they usually leave you with some rake.
Wow that customer went all out on that suspension
What back spacing?
😂😂😂😂. Didn’t like that his $75k 7500lb truck didn’t compete with a raptor? This guy should not own truck based off that stupidity.
Yeah, the customer was totally off thinking the tremor was like a raptor. The tremor is a better offroad truck than a standard 250, but the tremor was not meant to be high speed offroader.
The tremor was for guys who want to off road but also be able to tow some real weight. Believe it or not the market and clientele is huge for this sort of thing. I didn't buy a raptor for that specific reason, because it wouldn't be able to tow my can ams and razers.
Lmao people are dumb hahahhahah
@@stephensaucedo6295 A Raptor can't tow your Side by sides? Lol, I've used my Raptor more than a few times to tow the mini excavator on a flatbed with zero issues at all. You should stick to the car market.
@@cencoast_7.340 some people would rather have a truck actually built for that. My 2005 Toyota Tundra could tow a mini excavator, it doesnt mean it's just as safe as an F250 or that I want to put that kind of strain on it. You're dumb.
Not to be "that guy" but can you start referring to this kit when used on the 2020 trucks as the 3.5in. kit as it is no longer a 2.5in. kit on 2020 trucks.
Although with a Tremor it is a 2+-in. kit or something since it has a slight raise already.
Am I the only one that looked for the innov8 racing wheels because they look awesome, then were reminded how poor you are when you saw the per wheel price? 😂
The dream is a Tremor build pulling a power wagon build both loaded on a trailer being pulled by a Cummins 3500 duelly.
I heard, since Ford lowered their new 2020s 2 inches, that they had a ton of 2019 suspensions left over because it's sits the exact same as a 19'.
@HalfShell Yes the left over suspensions form go in the tremors.
Need to change the title and thumbnail of this video to represent the Carli commercial that it really is LOL this was never intended to be a Raptor killer LOL. And when you go over bumps 40% faster, you’re going to feel it less LOL
It’s a Raptor killer now after the Carli parts.
Agreed , Common sense.
What’s this exact setup run. Definitely interested. Thanks in advance
Ford will never do King shocks. I’ve mentioned it to all the guys that matter at Ford and it’s not an interest. They are just starting to embrace larger 35” tires. Being the owner of many trucks through the years with Carli Pintop’s, the best way to buy a Superduty is to get a Lariat, don’t buy the Tremor kit.... the ‘upgraded’ shocks are China made to Rancho specs and will be tossed in the trash, so will the wheels, .... buy the full Pintop kit which costs around $8500. The majority buyers of Carli kits have XLT trim...they don’t care about luxury, they only want ride quality.
zfilmmaker that’s exactly what I just can’t wait until it all comes in😂
Cool....So when will this be a available for f-250’s with the 7.3 gas V8...
Carli just finalized the kit, and coil/shock tune so expect some time this summer.
6:15 "Stock shocks painted black with a Tremor sticker on them".
*Well done, Ford.*
What size wheels are they,I just purchased a 2023 F350…I just ordered the carli signature series 2.5 leveling kit… I wanted to do the 37th also
The Build:
Suspension: www.cjcoffroad.com/Carli-2017-Ford-Systems-s/2268.htm
Wheels: www.cjcoffroad.com/Innov8-Racing-Forged-17x9-Beadlock-Wheels-p/g600-beadlock.htm
Tires: 37/12.5/17 Nitto Ridge Grappler
I’m looking at this exact set up , what would be the cost of this?
How much did you charge him🤨.... that's great you can make it better but would be nice to know a round about cost parts&labor
Doesn’t it also come with the traction control package that’s in the Raptor?
I'm getting the same setup on my carbonized grey. Wondering how a raw color ring would look on that bronze wheel..
Does a suspension mod significantly affect the towing/payload capacity?
It’s a very small penalty at most. The worst case scenario is with a carli full leaf pack which keeps 85% capacity. With the add a leaf or retained factory pack you keep full capacity.
Tremor Package is an appearence package? I am not buying that. It is a sticker with black wheels, but the difference is in the suspension shock system and driving modes. It is designed to give better off road performance while miantianing it ability to haul and pull like a beast and it does a damn good job from the factory. Can you enhance it with after market mods, Sure!
Picked up a 2019 f250 platinum last year and I can vouch it isnt a smooth ride at all daily driving. What’s the best setup to get a smooth ride at a decent price point. Looking to get airbags eventually and wheels and tires I would also like to level the truck.
Be cool to see those G600's on a third gen Cummins. Lookin good on the F250 tho!
The Tremor is not a Raptor or Power Wagon competitor. It's a Super Duty meant for work with a 1 step upgrade from fx4 packages. Tires, wheels, appearance. This is a tow rig for towing your off road toys to the camp or a work truck. Smart move by Ford, looks and capabilities with locker in back and limited slip up front. I put 2-4k in payload and believe me it will level that truck. Want to go fast? Go to Carli.
those are luxury items. the stock suspension will last 300k, no problem.
I’d love that in white. With the 7.3.
The goal of car manufacturers is to create a package and upgrades for $10 and sell it to you for $100. Anyone that’s a little more serious about off-roading knows aftermarket is the only way to go.
Upgrades look amazing!
$70k+ for the truck plus $10k+ for the setup. WTF does this guy do for a living!?
If you are going to be swapping tires, wheels, and suspension, the Tremor package at +$4k seems like a waste. The rear e-locker, which is the only thing that really matters, you can get without the Tremor package for about 500 bucks.
There's a lot more to the Tremor package! The suspension doesn't matter since it's just F-350 leaf packs, Fx4 shocks with a sticker, and 17-19 F-350 height front coils.
Nice editing!
Is it absolutely necessary to get the comuter system if the truck won't see much or any offroad? Guess what I'm asking is if the pintop kit is good for a on road truck
It’s overkill, but the ride is fantastic on road with the Pintop. It’s the best all around riding system for the 17+ Ford trucks.
Who the fuck thought this would be a raptor killer.
Lots of people on the internet who haven’t driven one...
@@CJCOffRoad that includes you guys too? Ford never said this was a "raptor killer" they're not that stupid lmao. The tremor is a offroad package, not a separate trim like the F150 raptor which is purposefully built for anything offroad.
Thing looks off the chain!
I love those wheels. Im looking on your website at the exact same wheel in the black anodized color. What offset did the owner of this truck choose? I am on the fence between the 0mm, and the +12mm offset.
We usually prefer the 5" backspace spec which is what this truck is on. These wheels really are works of art!
When you choose a full leaf pack for a tremor do you loose 15% (roughly) of the payload on the tremor payload number? Or is it of a stock f250/f350
That would be stock F-250 payload. The Tremor has the same as a normal F-350 since they use the same leaf spring pack to give the Tremor a “factory lift.” That’s why all Tremors come with the max tow package.
Cody, what would be needed to stick 40" tires on this particular trim? Would you need to move the front axle forward an inch or so like the AEV RAM HD suspension?
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really quality content, great work guys
This truck is also meant to do work. Good video nonetheless
True, but let's be real at least 90% of new truck owners have no "need" for a truck.
It sounds like one should just order a black appearance and get a Carli upgrade in lieu of the tremor. Thoughts?
It all depends on what's important to you! The Temor package does give you unique upgrades that you can't get anywhere else like extra waterproofing on the truck, a front limited slip, etc etc.
Great video and clean looking rig. Enjoy watching you guys and the awesome trucks you continually turn out. I have gone and configured a similar kit for my 2019 f350 on your site but I assume this doesn’t include labor. Any hints to what the all in, complete lift, labor, wheels tires is as of mid 2020?
Thanks for the support on the videos! You’re looking at around 600-800ish in labor depending on parts. Give us a call Monday through Friday if you want an exact quote.
CJC Off Road will do, thank you!
Does it hold up to real off road or just city bumps? How long do the shocks last before recommend rebuilding?
Here's a video that should answer that question: th-cam.com/video/PwrD2F1J240/w-d-xo.html
Typically the King rebuild interval is anywhere from 30-90k miles depending on how hard you drive the truck. It's similar to most shock setups!
What is the overall height of an f-250 with the leveling kit and 37s?
What was the overall height of this tremor after the upgrades?
Amen, please let us know how tall it is? Thanks...
Awesome. I’ve been considering the carli upgrade for a while. I do haul 1k in the bed from time to time as well as a 5k lb trailer. How much does this setup affect payload and towing?
The Fords have several rear spring options depending on your needs so you can maintain full payload and towing if desired.
@@CJCOffRoad Thanks!
How does this set up cost?
Can you fit a full-sized spare in the oem spare tire carrier with that wheel/tire package?
No you can’t unfortunately. 37s will not fit under the truck.
Is the Tremor package worth it if you have to upgrade the suspension for optimal off road performance?
The tremor package is for people who don't want to mod their truck but get a lifted stance with decent looking wheel/tire combo from the factory. I had $4,000 wheels on my last truck before it got t-boned by a drunk driver- car insurance doesn't cover their replacement over factory and have fun going through the effort and cost of suing someone for the difference, especially if they're a broke scumbag with a thousand creditors in line ahead of you.
F250 and 350 are setup for towing. If need an off road truck, stick to an half ton.
unless you need to tow,.... offroad
if you are going to do a Pintop upgrade is there any point in ordering the Tremor package (e.g. what else do you get beyond suspension - assume i would upgrade the wheels to 37" too)?
Yes. This is just enhancing what the tremor came with.
Looks great, definitely should've come from the factory this way!
how much lift did the truck actually get? tremors come with a factory lift already. any rear lift?
It’s complicated since the new F-250 trucks now sit lower, so the Tremors sit at the old height essentially. The truck got the Carli 2.5” lift coils and full rear pack, which translates to a 2” front lift and 1” rear lift. On the standard 2020 F-250 that would be 3.5” of front lift and 1” of rear. The parts are the same from the 17+ trucks.
How much would it impact the towing capacity?
5:24 I don't know how that guy is going to get away with front side windows tinted that dark in California. The most I've ever done is one level down from that and have had issues even at that level.
Two questions: How much does this build cost and did you guys adjust the speedometer to account for the bigger tires?
Cost all depends on the exact options and wheel specs, but yes we did change the speedo and TPMS 👍
Can you fit 38’s on this kit?
Truck came out great! To the point video with amazing clarity. What camera are you guys using to record? Keep it up!
Thanks for the kind words! This is all shot with a Sony a7riii 👍
Why not show the suspension cycling over the bumps in the video with a before and after approach?
We can only do so much when it’s a customer vehicle and we’re trying to finish the install in a timely manner. We’re appreciative customers let us film with their trucks at all!
So amazing i want this now.
How would a CDN truck get this upgrade, or a quality substitute? Thank you.
We ship to Canada all the time!
@@CJCOffRoad Excellent. We’ll have to talk… Cheers!
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Do led lights come stock on the 2020 f250 XLT Tremor? I don’t have LEDS. Thanks
It all depends on the trim package!
If it came like this from the factory, the Tremor pricetag would have doubled and Carli wouldn't have anything to sell, lol
Is the Carli 2.5 pintop also a level? I noticed there is a level kit and then the 2.5 pintop on the website.
Any of the Carli 2.5"/3.5" systems will fall under the "leveling kit" name since they aren't lifting the rear of the truck an appreciable amount.
@@CJCOffRoad what components do you recommend to help fight the awesome death wobble
looks good and looks fast for the LA freeways . . let us see a Video that you actually jump that truck like a Raptor after your built .
Have you seen our Raptor vs F-250 video? Might want to give that a watch!
CJC Off my 2018 Raptor is build from the factory ready to run the dirt . Barstow to Vegas fast but i’m really curious to see a Video of someone jumping a tremor diesel.
with your products . If it holds . my Tremor will be your next costumer
Is there a point in getting the Tremor if you’re doing these mods anyway?
Absolutely since it comes with plenty of useful options like water fording axles, front limited slip diff etc etc. The suspension is nothing special so there’s no harm in ripping it off.
Would the 3.5in. kit now be nose high since the rear blocks are now shorter and running the 3.5in. level coils on these non Tremor 2020's?
No the truck still sits fully level.
@@CJCOffRoad would that mean that on the '17-'19 trucks that they sit 1in. higher in the rear with this kit?
All Super Dutys regardless of F-250-F-350 are sharing the same short block for 2020 right?
I'd like to think there would be a difference wether you have a gas or diesel engine with this package.
Correct, Carli just finalized the gas version of this system with a different spring and shock tune.
What offset and backspacing are these wheels???
Why not just get the FX4 package and do the suspension you'll save $2K? A
nd you can get the FX4 pkg in the 8ft be and DRW if desired!
Can’t find any still pics of this truck on IG or FB. Need some still photos for my wallpaper lol
We have a few on our instagram!
What psi is he running?