The results are actually better than I remember getting. If I had more than 3 rods to use I probably could have made some decent welds. In a pinch I would say they would work fine. Far from TIG lol.
That’s the best news I heard today. You need to thank yourself for putting in the effort to get there. All the videos and info wouldn’t have got you to that point if you didn’t put the effort in 😀.
My neighbor was a welding instructor. One side of his pruning shears broke off and he lost the piece. He rebuilt that one side using this rod and on a regular inverter welding machine that doesn't have hot start or arc force. The guy has the steadiest hand I've seen and can weld sheet metal blind. He gave me a couple of those rods and I couldn't weld anything with them.
Thanks Greg for another great video . We are not doing anything but Steel in my first class, but this is very interesting. I learned a lot by your comments and Analysis .
Glad to hear that and I am sure you will learn a bunch via taking a class and watching videos outside of the class. Having more knowledge will help you progress faster. Most of learning to weld still comes down to practicing, so do as much as you can 😀.
Thanks for the kind comments. Most of the glove damage is from the tungsten grinder I have lol. You never know when the old flap disc might get you though 😅
Years ago I repaired a broken rear bumper mount on a Porsche that had been bumped from behind. The repair held and it's ugliness was hidden. Probably 10 years later I went to use those rods on another repair and they had all went bad with the flux crumbling off.
It’s funny you mentioned the flux coming off. After shooting the video I found a pack of aluminum welding rods in a old tool box. I got excited because I thought I could get some more practice in but the flux was in pieces in the package just like you said. Definitely no shelf life lol.
would it still hold up if you had to grind the weld flat or flush with the surface? example the 2 flat pieces welded together. what if you had to grind it flat to make 1 piece ?
Grinding welds is a slippery slope, especially with aluminum. Aluminum welds commonly have lower penetration and if you grind the weld down too much you can be left with very little weld that’s actually holding anything. I definately need to do a video on this.
If having a cold or rough start is not acceptable you could start on a tab of material and bring the arc over onto what’s to be welded. You want to be careful to not have arc strikes that aren’t welded over though.
That condensation that you reduced with preheating. It makes me wonder about condensation, which i suppose must always be present. So is that true, and does that affect things with water/steam put into the mix? That would cause spatter i expect?
For the most part the moisture in the air is of little concern. On critical welds (think nasa) or high liability (peoples lives depend on it) you will see far more strict control. This could be in the form of climate controlled manufacturing, pre-post heating, etc. Many materials used in high liability projects are more difficult to weld in general, and require certain temps to be maintained during welding. Honestly across the board this is of little concern for the average person because most materials a person would weld are not significantly affected by moisture/hydrogen in the weld. If a person wanted to weld tool steel, or aerospace alloys it could be more of a concern. The electric arc is so hot too that any moisture would vaporize off the surface immediately.
Of the pool, you've got me thinking, imagining it, and I can see how contaminants could thus affect. I'm thinking now about when you cut and show cross section, and the boundary of the weld can be seen. I mean, a weld is not really a weld in the truest sense as at the pools limit there is effectively a join, a weak seam. Maybe this is how those liberty ships tore in half, a weld is not really making two parts into one?
I think it would run on an inverter that wouldn’t run 6010. The only thing is the arc gap gets real big fast so you have to cram the rod in. It’s easy to have a 1/4in arc gap without even realizing it lol.
That rod is the stickiest rod I have ever ran. With that said It doesn’t stick much when you run 150a through a 3/32 rod though lol. I ended up using some for a in field emergency repair and to make starts easier (just doing tack welds) high amperage works better than I expected.
It definitely has a unique sound. Welding with it It seems out of control so it’s kind of surprising it actually welds. It’s almost like your guessing as to what’s going on, and surprised the weld doesn’t look terrible when you finally get the flux off 😂.
Hello sir! Can You please make some stick welding videos with stainless steel electrodes? This is something which i can't find in Your video clips. I would like to ask about one more thing, if possible, can You please include in the videos, wen comparing rods from different brands, Böhler electrodes? They are the ones which I have access to around my area, böhler and esab, some chinese cheapos as well, but don't wan to mention them Unfortunately we do not have the Lincoln brand here in Europe, on the other side of the pond.😔 Thank you in advance!
I have used bohler wire, but their products aren’t commonly available here. I will see what I can get ahold of. It’s very common for suppliers to be able to get products from companies outside of the USA, but they make you buy a ridiculous amount of them. Recently I just tried to buy some 7016 rods (apparently a common Australian low hydrogen rod), and the local suppliers had a 200lb minimum (4 50lb box) order for 900$ lol. The wild thing about that, is the rods were made in American and shipped to Australia. I could probably buy them from Australia for less money than that with shipping.
I forgot to respond to the stainless electrode question. I can do that, it will be a bit. I actually have very little practice using stick on stainless because I can tig weld which is all I have needed for it. I am switching careers soon and will need to do far more repairs on stainless with stick, so I definitely better start practicing more. I will get to a video in Jan about stainless stick, I just need to get a handle on it myself 😀
@@makingmistakeswithgreg 🤔 Yup, that makes you think about it! Sounds wild! Thank you for the quick answer! I can't wait till January then! 😊 Thanks again!
Another informative video. I did not even know that stick welding aluminum was an option. Thanks Greg
The results are actually better than I remember getting. If I had more than 3 rods to use I probably could have made some decent welds. In a pinch I would say they would work fine. Far from TIG lol.
Hey thanks to this channel, I managed my first perfect few weld beads today!
That’s the best news I heard today. You need to thank yourself for putting in the effort to get there. All the videos and info wouldn’t have got you to that point if you didn’t put the effort in 😀.
My neighbor was a welding instructor. One side of his pruning shears broke off and he lost the piece. He rebuilt that one side using this rod and on a regular inverter welding machine that doesn't have hot start or arc force. The guy has the steadiest hand I've seen and can weld sheet metal blind. He gave me a couple of those rods and I couldn't weld anything with them.
Thanks Greg for another great video . We are not doing anything but Steel in my first class, but this is very interesting. I learned a lot by your comments and Analysis .
Glad to hear that and I am sure you will learn a bunch via taking a class and watching videos outside of the class. Having more knowledge will help you progress faster. Most of learning to weld still comes down to practicing, so do as much as you can 😀.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg Thanks. I hope to get lots of practice.
Looks like your welding glove has saved your thumb from a grinder wheel a time or two lol. Good work on these videos.
Thanks for the kind comments. Most of the glove damage is from the tungsten grinder I have lol. You never know when the old flap disc might get you though 😅
Years ago I repaired a broken rear bumper mount on a Porsche that had been bumped from behind. The repair held and it's ugliness was hidden. Probably 10 years later I went to use those rods on another repair and they had all went bad with the flux crumbling off.
It’s funny you mentioned the flux coming off. After shooting the video I found a pack of aluminum welding rods in a old tool box. I got excited because I thought I could get some more practice in but the flux was in pieces in the package just like you said. Definitely no shelf life lol.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg
Do you think keeping them inside the house would help? It would be better climate controlled that way
That was fun to watch. Thanks!
You’re welcome 😀
would it still hold up if you had to grind the weld flat or flush with the surface? example the 2 flat pieces welded together. what if you had to grind it flat to make 1 piece ?
Grinding welds is a slippery slope, especially with aluminum. Aluminum welds commonly have lower penetration and if you grind the weld down too much you can be left with very little weld that’s actually holding anything. I definately need to do a video on this.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg maybe thats why they always chamfer the edges to be joined so that the bead is recessed between the 2 pieces.
Just an idea, wouldn't it help to start the arc on something non-alu (w/o oxide layer)?
If having a cold or rough start is not acceptable you could start on a tab of material and bring the arc over onto what’s to be welded. You want to be careful to not have arc strikes that aren’t welded over though.
That condensation that you reduced with preheating. It makes me wonder about condensation, which i suppose must always be present. So is that true, and does that affect things with water/steam put into the mix? That would cause spatter i expect?
For the most part the moisture in the air is of little concern. On critical welds (think nasa) or high liability (peoples lives depend on it) you will see far more strict control. This could be in the form of climate controlled manufacturing, pre-post heating, etc. Many materials used in high liability projects are more difficult to weld in general, and require certain temps to be maintained during welding. Honestly across the board this is of little concern for the average person because most materials a person would weld are not significantly affected by moisture/hydrogen in the weld. If a person wanted to weld tool steel, or aerospace alloys it could be more of a concern. The electric arc is so hot too that any moisture would vaporize off the surface immediately.
Of the pool, you've got me thinking, imagining it, and I can see how contaminants could thus affect. I'm thinking now about when you cut and show cross section, and the boundary of the weld can be seen. I mean, a weld is not really a weld in the truest sense as at the pools limit there is effectively a join, a weak seam. Maybe this is how those liberty ships tore in half, a weld is not really making two parts into one?
Can it be ran on inverter machines that won't run 6010?
I think it would run on an inverter that wouldn’t run 6010. The only thing is the arc gap gets real big fast so you have to cram the rod in. It’s easy to have a 1/4in arc gap without even realizing it lol.
"Welds as easy as steel". LOL. 10 minutes of sticking the rod and then seconds in its literally a pillar of smoke in the room.
That rod is the stickiest rod I have ever ran. With that said It doesn’t stick much when you run 150a through a 3/32 rod though lol. I ended up using some for a in field emergency repair and to make starts easier (just doing tack welds) high amperage works better than I expected.
Sounds it makes its even worse than welding on galvanized steel without cleaning it lol
It definitely has a unique sound. Welding with it It seems out of control so it’s kind of surprising it actually welds. It’s almost like your guessing as to what’s going on, and surprised the weld doesn’t look terrible when you finally get the flux off 😂.
Hello sir! Can You please make some stick welding videos with stainless steel electrodes? This is something which i can't find in Your video clips.
I would like to ask about one more thing, if possible, can You please include in the videos, wen comparing rods from different brands, Böhler electrodes? They are the ones which I have access to around my area, böhler and esab, some chinese cheapos as well, but don't wan to mention them Unfortunately we do not have the Lincoln brand here in Europe, on the other side of the pond.😔
Thank you in advance!
I have used bohler wire, but their products aren’t commonly available here. I will see what I can get ahold of. It’s very common for suppliers to be able to get products from companies outside of the USA, but they make you buy a ridiculous amount of them. Recently I just tried to buy some 7016 rods (apparently a common Australian low hydrogen rod), and the local suppliers had a 200lb minimum (4 50lb box) order for 900$ lol. The wild thing about that, is the rods were made in American and shipped to Australia. I could probably buy them from Australia for less money than that with shipping.
I forgot to respond to the stainless electrode question. I can do that, it will be a bit. I actually have very little practice using stick on stainless because I can tig weld which is all I have needed for it. I am switching careers soon and will need to do far more repairs on stainless with stick, so I definitely better start practicing more. I will get to a video in Jan about stainless stick, I just need to get a handle on it myself 😀
@@makingmistakeswithgreg 🤔 Yup, that makes you think about it! Sounds wild!
Thank you for the quick answer! I can't wait till January then! 😊 Thanks again!