Sharpening a 40 year old Gerber Knife Sharp
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 พ.ย. 2022
- One of our favorite customers stops by the booth to see if Brad can sharpen some of his unique knives. Today, at the Tanner gun show in Denver, he brings by a 40 year old Gerber knife with super strong steel to see if the Sharpens Best knife sharpener can get this bad boy sharp.
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I am a professional knife sharpener of seven years. When I was first starting out, I thought this sharpener would be cool as it’s something you can easily carry around. Pretty quickly into sharpening I learned this is nothing more than a gimmick and good sales advertising.
If you cut a knife in half and look down the spine of the knife, you would see a triangle shape, the goal in sharpening is to sharpen both edges of the knife until the triangle comes together to a super sharp point called the Apex of the edge. You could sharpen a knife for a really long time and it could look beautiful and shiny, but if you haven’t reached the Apex of the edge where the triangle fully comes to a point you’re never actually getting the edge sharp. Once you have reached the Apex of the edge where you can feel a tiny burr or piece of metal fold over to one side of the knife you work on using finer grits to refine the knife edge till you get it to a desired level of sharpness for the task it needs to perform.
Some knives and cheaper steals you want to leave a slightly toothier edge so it will stay sturdier and bite into what you are cutting. Some more expensive knives or steals like S30V and high carbon you can get a lot sharper because of the quality of the metal.
Brad Buckner doesn’t know much about knives it seems as stated in the video which you should if you are a sharpener selling knife sharpeners. Also Gerber knives are usually not very hard steels especially not that older kitchen knife. (Not bashing the guy who brought it). Brad doesn’t seem to know much about steel composition and in previous videos has admitted to using a work sharp knife sharpener to sharpen his knives. This is probably also why he demos his knife sharpener at gun shows and not blade specific shows so he can take advantage of unknowing people.
Next, all knives need different angles depending on the steel quality and the task that knife is made to preform. For example cleavers are typically sharpened at a 30 degree angle because they have to cut through cartilage and bones and need a sturdier edge to do so. Whereas your standard western style kitchen knives are usually at a 20 degree angle because they need a sharper edge to do more fine food cutting. Japanese knives depending on steel quality usually need anywhere from a 14 - 17 degree angle. Lastly your hunting/ pocket knives are usually from 22-25 degrees.
The problem with pull through sharpeners like this is two things, one you can’t change the angle because every knife needs a different angle and two you can’t refine the edge any more using finer grits so you can’t actually get it past a certain level of sharpness which isn’t very much. They often even damage your knife’s edge.
Next, knife honing rods don’t sharpen a knife. All they do is re-align the bur on an edge so it is straight as apposed to sharpening which is removing metal and putting on a new edge. That being said don’t over sharpen knives get good at maintaining them which you would do with a strop or a steel.
For the everyday sharpener who needs to sharpen their kitchen knives and maybe a pocket knife here and there look into a guided knife sharpening system. Well priced ones to look into are Work Sharp precision adjust and a Lanskey guided sharpener.
My qualifications for a sharpener are that it has to be angle adjustable and be able to refine the metal edge with multiple grits or stages so that you can actually get a really sharp knife. It’s hard to hold a consistent angle when sharpening, what The Work Sharp and the Lanskey do is clamp the knife in at a certain angle and allow you to bring sharpening stones down to the blade at the exact degree you want to set it at and refine the edge for a scary sharp knife if desired.
All in all don’t buy this. Spend the same amount and get a sharpener which will work on all your knives and actually get a sharp knife.
One thing I have to thank pull through sharpeners and people like Brad for is keeping professional sharpeners like me in business.
There has never been a conversation between 2 people that know less about knifes in the history of conversation
And that boys and girls is how you ruin the edge on a good knife. Anyone that uses these carbide sharpeners on their good knives either doesn't know any better or hates their knives. I'm cringing every time he hits that blade with that carbide.
@Gator-357 I was watching this in horror too. I seen a few knives ruined like this. I had to spend an hour on one trying to get it's edge right again after a family member let a guy like this "sharpen" it a few times. That was way before youtube so I could give that a bit of a pass back then. NOW, when anyone can look up a video about anything and cross check information easily, there is no excuse.
It may be rough on an edge but for people who have problems holding an angle or figuring out a whetstone like this gentleman here, it's a better option than having a dull knife
@@Stating_the_obvious69 That's not a problem if you use a sharpening system. You can a Lansky Sharpening system for $40 - 60 that has an angle guide. You can be a complete novice with one of them and still keep a proper angle.
I was whittling with the small blade on my sak huntsman and i was using a sharpal to do the blade...jees irs nearly gone
Yep
It's a shredder more than a sharpener. If you looked at the edge under magnification you could see the metal is just shredded to a jagged apex. Very hard on a knife edge to use this tool.
Absolutely
If it wasnt sharp it wouldn't have shaved that paper like that.
The paper was roughly cut, nothing was shaved. A ragged edge cuts paper just fine for a few strokes until the burr gets ripped off. You should know this.
@@K3Flyguy Exactly
@@themodernninja8074Tell me you know nothing about sharpening knives without telling me lol.
Washing in hot water will dull your knife through expansion and contraction. 🤣 Good one 👏👏👏
Its crazy how many silly superstitions people grow up believing
@@peterpalmer2429his grandpa probably told him that when he was 9yo, and has been repeating it for 60+ years.
The hot water thing has me laughing so hard! It's hot water not hot coals my friend
Those destroy knives! An heirloom knife had it's edge screwed up! Good work!
What?
@@christianz-jg2bh Those type of sharpeners will destroy a knife edge. People that are into sharpening seriously, won't go near those
The water in your pipes isn't hot enough to damage the steel on your knife.
There are youtubers and commenters that claim your sharpener doesn't work.... and that your absence at knive events is a hint to support their premise... WELL... i purchased a sharpensbest sharpener... in my first attempt, the knive got somewhat sharper and then very dull... But I am a logical person, I figured that if the sharpener was able to remove enough of the edge to dullen the edge then that means with the correct application of the sharpener, it could remove the metal in the correct way to provide a sharp edge... So I worked with that knife until I figured out how to do it... It became very sharp... I was to do the paper cut i see others do..... I have since sharpened most of my kitchen knives of different varieties and types of steel. I have sharpened three pairs of scissors, and one of them was a curved pet shear, which was not able to cut my pets hair, i also sharpened a small round can opener blade with amazing results...tbh i dont have to split a hair every single cut... i will sharpen the knives again when they fall off to a point that I am not satisfied with.... I'm not here to advertise any product. And I have comments all over the Web, praising and throwing water on products... But the sharpensbest works, and that's that
Those pull through sharpeners are a sure fire way to ruin an edge!
I have one that suctions onto the counter top. I use it on my kitchen knife set periodically and I love it. It gets them really sharp really fast and they stay sharp for a decent amount of time. The knives aren't real expensive ones and I cut meat and vegetables, not hair. So it works wonderfully for me.
Old guys talking. Love it.
Awesome stuff Brad!! Have an awesome Christmas!!
Thank you.
Love the guy who can't sharpen a knife giving advice on metallurgy. "don't clean a knife in hot water" You must have so much fun dealing with the general public at shows.
We were up in the hills above Clinton, Mt. riding atv's in early Spring. Two of us stopped in a wide spot that still had patches of snow. Third one rode up, stopped, and said "What's that ?" picking up a folded Gerber knife. Tho stainless steel, it had rust on it from lying in the snow all Winter. I took it home, cleaned the rust off, oiled it. Didn't even need a touch up, still sharp. Gave it back to it's new owner and she still uses it as her EDC knife. ☆
Great Video Brad love to see the knives get sharp again !
Fudd lore in action.
I totally understand the concept, and really appreciate the simplicity, but I just don't understand how you can get a clean bevel or maintain a sharp tip with these 90 degree carbide sharpeners. Clearly they work, but to me they seem more suited to emergergency sharpening, very rough tool sharpening, or even initial blade reprofiling perhaps.
They can be used as long as U want to as long as you are smart enough to use my sharpener the correct way.
Rofl...you asked
Brad is delusional, nobody is keeping a perfect angle with repeated strokes, just buy his knife sharpener already will ya
Poor Brad 😂 BTW you can order a length of square stock tungsten carbide and it'll be the same thing. But your edges will be hacked to hell and back.
The old Gerber used M2 High speed steel (I'm guessing 60-62hrc) and were really good. I have a couple of small fixed blades from them. The new Gerber are mostly crap with a few rare exceptions here and there. There's plenty of harder knives out there than Gerber. Anything in rex 121 at 70-72hrc (though the Rockwell C scale stops at 70hrc) is almost as hard as the tungsten carbide which is about 75-80hrc. For those who are interested vanadium and niobium carbide are 82-87hrc with vanadium being a point or 2 harder.
Thank you. Thank you for watching and making the comment.
Thank you. Thanks for the comment and the information.
Love the guy who has a real dull knife and almost never sharpen his 40 yr tool is telling all you not to clean your knives in hot water
You can hear him hitting it at the wrong angle when he's using the little finger sharpener shifting the blade from left to right really quickly as he sharpens it trying to make a little show for the people standing around but really he is making mistakes.
Exactly 😂
Gerbers are hard steel 😂
Kind of makes you question the whole thing, to hear someone say that.
I started collecting 4 months ago 😂,should I let him sharpen my Chris reeves knives in Damascus steel
😂😂😂 I’d hate to give him maxamet
Actually the old school gerber knives (before they were bought out by fiskars) were really quality knives. I am not certain about this model, but i know the gerber a400-a475 models had blades made of m2 tool steel hardened to 62 hrc.
Appreciate the info
Awesome
So very correct.
Never heard of the hot water effect this gentleman is talking about.
It's nonsense
Thats nice knife
4:10 Guy in the flannel has no idea what he's talking about
Neither of them know what they are talking about.
Now I know why my Gerber that is 20+ years old I can only get sharp with a diamond steel but I ordered the sharpener to see
A 20 year old Gerber is still made of trash steel, you want pre 1988 or a knife with the actual knife steel stamped on it not terms like "high carbon stainless" or " surgical stainless'' these are buzz words that mean whatever, there is no standard for either of these buzz words, surgical stainless could be anywhere from 440 a to 440c and if you were proud of your knife why not tell me the steel? All of my Benchmade, spydercos, and fox knives have the composition stamped on them
Fantastic idea,wish I would’ve thought of it,wouldn’t use it to sharpen my knives,nevertheless he’ll probably be a millionaire with this marketing.Good on you,man.
Awesome video! Love seeing the dull come to life again! Just received my made in the USA black long handle sharpener... cannot wait to put it to work! Keep up the great work, Brad! Seasons Greetings, Happy Holidays and Safe New Year to come!
So how is it going
@@bradbuckner9496 Going good, Brad. How about you?
Sorry but this is a garbage technique. You can even hear him hitting it wrong with the baby stone after. If you looked at the blade yourself and felt it you'd know that it is basically ruined and you'll have to go 200-400 again. Also, Gerber is hard steel? WTF lmfaoooooooooooooo
I was selling a guy a schrade knife .
He did the thumbnail thing and took out a big chunk.
Ive never seen anything bleed so much.
Maybe I’m being overconfident, but I feel like I could have done that with a Sharpal dual grit in less time…
No, I definitely agree with you, plus that pull through sharpener absolutely destroys the edge and practically makes it a serrated knife.
They worried that hot water will destroy their knives but they're ok with using that tool 💀
Brad I really would love for you to come to the Outdoor Expo in Rockland County NY if you are ever available when they have the show. Would be a thrill to meet you and I am sure you would do rather well in this area.
Sounds like it would be fun.
Thank you. I might look into it.
@@bradbuckner9496 sorry but apparently it was canceled and it will not be until next year and is moving to NJ
@@pauljcohen2007 wow, I guess that is a surprise? put it on your calendar about a month six weeks in advance, and yell at me. Let’s see. Thank you for getting back with me. Have a great evening
@@bradbuckner9496 I will definitely do that
Nice hat
Do you sell strops? once sharp with your device, that will maintain your edge longer.
Oil stone, time and patience. Gives a very good edge.
lol hot water does not ruin an edge
Oh my word! Did y’all see the metal coils coming off the blade when using the V notch?
Love to see him Sharpen my Benchmade Bugout with M390 steel with that, He'd be there for hours if not days.
What… That is super soft stainless steel
Why are people in this comment section so against these things. I'm a worker, I'm not gonna pull out sharpening stones while I'm on the job.
Should you be sharpening like this all the time? No, but it's quick, it's easy, and when it's that sharp you won't have to re-sharpen it for a long time.
Hear the man, extremely sharp knives dull faster 😂😂😂
I have a corona tungsten carbide blade sharpener I bought at Lowe’s and it works just as good if not better. Use a whet stone and your knives will last longer and be sharper. If those were that good why doesn’t knife makers use them
Would have loved to see the older gentleman's Chris Reeve...
Wenn ein Alkoholiker Messerschleifer verkauft
I’m just wondering what model Gerber knife that is?
The Chuck Norris of knife sharpening
Hello teacher, please explain what this is, is it a diamond? Thank you for your answer
One mo time⏲️
It would be nice to sharpen such a knife with a good quality wet stone
The water coming out of the sink would have to be close the melting point of the metal of the blade to cause any changes. Some people just believe anything they hear and keep on repeating it over and over. And that "sharpening tool" is just a good edge assassin for any blade.
What model of gerber is that cant quite hear it
I might as go from Toronto Ontario, Canada. Can I order wander as nice sharpenter from
A classic older Gerber deserves better ...Just sad seeing being pulled through that thing.
Use that sharpener for 2 years and youll have a serrated knife.
Explain
@christianz-jg2bh it's not actually sharpening. It's cheering the steel because it's a carbide "sharpener". It's a false sharpsner.
Imagine if that knife was actually sharp at the tip and only dull by the base. This guy could've cut himself badly
I would’ve cut my arm first and not touched my neck. A certain matter brains are involved. thank you for watching
Just like that
WELL DONE !!!
Do you ship to europe?
everyone is a knife expert, if it cuts, its a good knife, a dull knife never helped anybody, now IF you value a knife by it being a heirloom or something else THEN I would say take extreme care just like anything else in life, go through a much gentle, proper and correct process to keep it sharp or to take it up a notch to your standards, the guy is selling a good product and seems like everyone wants to be a samurai these days where the sharpness matters just as much as your penis length does.
I can't look at this. Who sharpens knives like that?!
Don't wash knives in hot water ? Wth kinda old wives tale is that
It's not... It's the male version of it. Also known as a Fudd Tale or Fudd Logic.
I think he just didn't express himself well. It's NOT to wash them WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER UTENSILS, ETC. Cause you'll bang the blade. Wash your knives alone, by themselves, and then immediately dry and store them.
That's what he meant, not that "hot water hurts knives."
i mean bro told him to get a lanksy not bad advice there
Oh god. That hurts to watch. How could somebody do that to a knife? Learn how to sharpen things for real.
"It's that dull..." 🤣👍 (0:18) Definitely VERRY dull! lol
Wouldn't sharpen my lawnmower blades with one of these sharpening systems
sandpapir 180/240 works every time
The steel doesn't know it's 40 years old lol
wher to bay ?
American sharpener vs Japanese. No contest needed.
Fiskars makes Gerber.
What happened to whet stones?? With my set of soft arkansaw stone and india stone that knife would have beheaded King Kong while he was still babbling about the carbide sharpener.. Nice fellow and good presentation of bad product.
Is Gerber steel hard?
No
How bad would the heat treating on your knife have to be for "hot" tap water to affect the blade in the way their talking about its laughable 😂😂
You can see on the paper that the cut is really rough
I've just ordered some stones, If they're good enough for Master Japanese Craftsmen, They should be good enough for me 😂
I could have sharpened that knife faster on a stone than that. Geez
Gerbers are really hard steel? They use 7cr. Wtf are you talking about?
Can’t wash it with hot water lmao
Having a hard time with these sharpener.
Still??
I can’t believe a guy like this is actually real…. He knows not a damn thing about knives, and he knows not a damn thing about sharpening. Yet here he is.
This video is full of inaccuracies and absurdities. I tried listing what was wrong with timestamps but either YT or the person would hide it so I'll do it this way.
First all, don't test how sharp a blade is by putting it to your skin. At the start of the video he only tested a small part of the blade before getting cute and running it length of it across the skin. That's dangerous
Second. Don't use carbide "sharpeners." They mangle the blade. Use a stone or sharpening system. I've seen multiple blades wreck by them and even had to fix the edge on one myself. It took over an hour and was a pain in the a55!
Third. Yes, if the edge is too thin, meaning the angle is lower than it should be, the more fragile the edge is. HOWEVER, you can get a "crazy sharp" edge at 16 degrees per side on a descent steel and it will not be fragile. The blanket statement of a "crazy sharp" blade getting dull quick is false.
Last. Hot water coming out of your faucet WILL NOT hurt your blade. If your water heater is putting out water hot enough to make a knife blade expand, your metal pipes and faucet are not going to last long and PVC pipes will melt before the metal does.
This ^ .
From a professional sharpener, yes to all of the above.
How can i purchase that in pakistan
Snake oil by the gallons.
Do people still fall for this ? 😰🤦🏻
I spoke could you please tell me when you're a sharpener machines
Are these guys serious???😅. What a joke
I wish it were a joke. The sad part is that there plenty of comments seriously congratulating this guy. This stuff is the one thing I DON"T miss from shows. I learned to stay far away from tables like that at a young age thanks to my dad. Not only will those guys wreck blades but they always over price their stuff.
Now I'm satisfied I hope you are 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bet you coudlnt sharpen a rex 45 or m4 steel. M390 etc. That thing is made for kitchen knives with soft steel. Btw gerber isnt a steel. Its a knife company.
😂
Two guys that don’t know nothing about knives unfortunately
This guy is so hard to listen to just a know it all who treats everyone like they’re stupid
Great way to destroy a knife blade you would never touch my Victorinox
What kind of old boomer crap is "dont wash it in hot water"????
Good for machetes only, Not knives.
Omg thats not sharpening, thats raping the knife 😢
Hi
All u have to do is look at his hat. It says I'm a tard and now it's time to move on.
Some guys just want to hear themselves. Have you heard of Chris reeves knives? Or if you wash your knife in hot water it will dull them. SMH
I have never been a fan of this style of sharpener. Not all knives should be sharpened at the same angle and this one removes significant amounts of metal to achieve said angle.
I thought the same thing until I bought one. Carbide works quick on hard blades and those light brushing strokes are all that's ever needed if u keep your edge maintained. The v notch is only used to create/repair an edge if needed. I'm not bullshittin, I use Brad's Keychain version every day to touch up box knife blades at work and almost daily on my edc knives which are high end super steels like m390 etc, it's crazy how stupid simple quick and easy it is once u master it. I'm not arguing with your opinion, just wanting to assure you that using "evil" carbide isn't bad on your blade if used properly.
Please tell me. How else can you decrease the angle on a blade without taking some material off.
@@HOOSH69
How long did it take you to master it and any tips for learning it
@@KC08RAS I started sharpening stuff when I was 5. Watch the videos to learn.
@@bradbuckner9496 thx for replying pal, I'd appreciate it if you could slow down Ur strokes on the sharpener so I can understand better cos you do it quite fast.
Jesus CHRIST
Lol really use a stone . Killed that knife.