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doug, where is the session where nik airball is trying to have a poker face and u notice it and start giving him hell, that face and ur comments r poker gold, i want to rewatch it, LMK thanks
I constantly see this. But from my understanding, with Taras having 7s7c on 4s Ts 8c , you said that you'd rather check with his hand because he has a spade in it because you don't want to bet / get raised / and have to fold your equity. In other words, you are implying that the solver likes pocket pairs with a suit to match the flush draw on boards because of *increased equity*. But that is not why the solver likes pocket pairs with a suit to match the flush draw. For example, 5h5d. You call in position against an under the gun raiser. Flop Comes Th, 3h, 2c. Utg bets pot. The reason why you'd be happier calling with 5h 5d, as opposed to 5c 5s has nothing to do with the backdoor flush draw. That literally has close to no relevancy when calling with this hand. But having the 5 of hearts is critical, because on the times when you DO SPIKE A SET on the turn or river, it will NEVER be a *flush completing card*. 5h 5d calls bet on Th, 3h, 2c. If you spike a set, it will be the 5c, or the 5s. Utg's value range will have a much easier time paying you when you spike a set on a non flush completing card. KK looks a lot better calling off a check raise on Th, 3h, 2c, 5s as opposed to Th, 3h, 2c, 5h {When you hold 5c, 5s}. It has everything to do with the amount of money you can get paid without a bad turn or river relative to your opponents range. Nothing to do with trying to get a flush.
Everyone wins their share of flips over time, so that’s totally negligible. However if you show me a player who constantly chases flushes and I can guarantee that he’s a losing player over time because the math just doesn’t work out. The difference between good players vs bad players really is often as simple as having a grasp of the basic math that underlies everything in poker. Just knowing where you are in a poker hand as far as your equity goes is a huge advantage over the average recreational player.
I honestly think deep down he knew KK was good and he did the coinflip thing knowing its a close EV spot so it won't cost him much but makes for an amazing marketing spot
Just wanna say for what it’s worth 1. Love the teaching content 2.Nice change from the usual very mathematical ranges solver approach easier to wrap your head around for an average player
Great video! I enjoy the layman's terms on how you are thinking in game! Sometimes the numbers get boring but, the thought processes is what alot of viewers will appreciate most, Is this the type of material that is in the upswing lab? I think for most rec players, this is the best way to learn! Thanks for all of your insight into these hands and sessions! Really enjoyable to hear your thought process! Please continue posting this type of material.
I don’t play enough anymore to make it worth my while personally, but if this video is a taste of your training, kudos. I love hearing your thought process. Also, how do you never age? 😂
Doug you’re finding a new TH-cam groove just step by step. ❤. I know it’s taking a while but this is rock solid, credible & you not ruining anyone’s reputation. Wish I could subscribe 20 times & like it a hundred just to give my support.
New? Pretty sure this sort of poker hands is the oldest type o videos on this channel. Drama is discussed only when drama is happening. When people ruin their reputation on their own.
Hey Doug. I tried to contact you in Austin about what we talked about after you were passed out in the park, naked and without your wallet. Get back to me.
@DoigPolkPoker this was a great video! Good lessons throughout and kept my attention all the way through, especially at the end with the randomized KK! I bet you made that waitress’s week with whatever size chip you gave her 😊 (hopefully it was at least a 1k!!)
@@moaf2padventures757 I prefer my humor to be… humerous. Not to mention if you’re going to try to make a joke in verbatim without the ability to denote tone, how are people meant to determine you’re being funny and not just stupid?
@@Davezy1 hey man its totally ok that you didnt get the joke. it certainly wasnt the most well crafted or funniest joke ever. humerous is in the eye of the beholder though. i thought it was mildly amusing and pretty obvious that he was trying to be funny. im sorry that i dont really have any advice to help you detect sarcasm on the interenet but idk maybe dont come in hot being a condescending dickbag if youre not sure next time?? id start there. im guessing thats not going to work for you though lol...
What if you flop a straight flush over straight flush in PLO, would that be a good way to build a massive stack? Or would it depend on the bad beat jackpot fine print I guess
i dont get it... you explain this perfectly but some younger/inexperienced players i know, cannot understand this breakdown.... i hate playing poker but love to watch these break downs... it makes me feel less bad about a couple of winning folds ive made lately...
The mistake the raiser made was making the deal. If Doug wants to tell him his hand that’s his business; he should have stayed pat on the semi-bluff then barreled on river if he had the chips to pot it again. It would have put Doug in a very hard spot.
I NEVER leave a decision up to a coin flip b/c no matter what I always lose the flip and get what I don't want. I just say "eff it" and call a portion of the time lol
when doug doesnt know what to do he makes it flip because he doesnt want to look like he makes a bad call or bad fold thus avoiding responsbility and looking bad to all his potential course buyers .
You don’t even mention once about it being player dependent. Getting raised here on the turn in this spot is 95% of the time a house against most opponents
Hey Doug. I have to admit that Phil Ivey is my favorite Poker player of all time, BUT you sir are a very, very close 2nd! In my opinion you don’t get half the recognition you deserve. Keep up the good work, can’t wait to watch you more….
Doug is on record as saying he doesn't vary his strategy very much - he just tries to play optimally, content that in the long run that will beat his opponent's deviations.
@@bobsburgers8885 Against Taras, in the absence of a strong read in either direction, I think you need to make that call fairly often with any over pairs or else you’re just gonna be folding way too much against this particular players style and tendencies.
@@Ohrami Because you open yourself up to making bad reads, reasoning from a small sample size, etc. You also start to open yourself up to other players when they realize what you're doing, though that's less relevant here since the hand was only 2 ways. I think this probably reflects Doug's specialty, which is heads-up. You play so many hands that you don't need to play so exploitatively. Personally I think it would benefit him to to change his strats a bit against bluffy players, but Doug forgets more poker in a day than I'll ever know, so...
I have to call with the kings. The straights and flushes missed and you're only losing to trips and the 8's and 4's full (and AA, but the plays don't suggest he has AA). I'm of course at much lower limit, but the river overbet is a strong is weak acting play. Most trip 10s or boat hands would bet less to get called, not overbet and risk losing the call from you. Great hand though.
doug, where is the session where nik airball is trying to have a poker face and u notice it and start giving him hell, that face and ur comments r poker gold, i want to rewatch it, LMK thanks
The second you allow the house to have RFID tags at the table is where I don't play. To easy to have corruption and over time people won't play here. If your casino needs RFID or cameras to survive it means the game is corrupt.
wow who would have thought all you have to do is get dealt kings and have them hold up! thanks doug! I need more snake oil please, do you have any snake oil for sale?
@@PeterChessPupil you are definitely a long term losing player and everybody in here knows it based on your comment. Keep being angry and being a loser.
Welcome to Doug Polk's (an individual who I admire greatly and whose hand analysis I find mostly spot on) commentary on a hand targeting involving himself and 6 Taras directed specifically at Sir Issac Newton, Albert Einstein and John Nash (who created the Nash Equilibrium) in that order. Certainly to any regular player playing the game in a 2 dimensional model of the world. There is absolutely no one watching this TH-cam video that is applying this much AI and DeepMind analysis of this shit. Doug clearly doesn't believe goat boy has a Ten and is continuing on
There was a lot of good hand analysis in this video, and I’m sure it’ll be quite helpful in some way to most of the people who watch it… But I feel like there’s definitely a segment of the viewers who will watch this whole clip and what they will take away from it is that Doug just talked about the hand and all it’s possibilities in minute detail for 20+ minutes and what he came up with after all that pondering was flipping a coin for 200 grand because when it comes down to it poker is all in the luck. 😂
Don't like the card flip seems weak (oh I give up I can't figure this out), as a professional trying to sell your product you should be able to make the call or fold.
But why is this close? I don’t get it. It’s close when you don’t have any idea about your opponent. You have played taras for like infinite hrs. There is no reason to randomize. Based on what you know about his play style this is a pure play not indifferent
21 minutes to break down a hand for us viewers, coming to the conclusion that KK is one of the better hands to call down with in this spot and then letting your opponent choose a card to decide you will call or fold. That does not make a lot of sense, or does it? 🤢🤢🤢🤢
It's worth noting that without Doug's Lodge Poker results he's net down 1.2mm lifetime at his tracked cash game results. And even including The Lodge he's slightly above breakeven.
yeah but look at his graphs for playing heads up. even if youre right in that hes not a winning high stakes ring game player his analysis is probably still leagues better than yours because of his incredible depth in analyzing heads up.
@@matthewwestcott9138559 hours is not exactly completely irrelevant. You can use a variance simulator to at least be confident within a 99% confidence interval what is winrate is less than.
Taras is too loose for his own good, but he definitely doesn’t appear to be easy to play against - he’s going to put you to tough decisions when you have marginal hands and you’re just gonna have to make some uncomfortable and expensive calls at times because he’s capable of making huge bets with any two cards. Sometimes that means you’re gonna pay him off big when he has it and you’re not a believer.
strategywise i like your river decision. but as a viewer i hate it. it doesnt feel like you are actually the one who decides. As a viewer i want those decisions taken by the players, i want the emotions of beeing right or wrong.
Is it "Run into a donkey with more money than sense and then take them for a ride"? because I know how to do that. If it's "play really good poker and dominate the table" then I'm fucked...
Poker isn’t fun anymore, better to play blackjack and lose to the casino instead of some “crushers” or experts or whatever. My advice, don’t waste your time playing poker unless you want to dedicate your life to it.
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doug, where is the session where nik airball is trying to have a poker face and u notice it and start giving him hell, that face and ur comments r poker gold, i want to rewatch it, LMK thanks
I constantly see this. But from my understanding, with Taras having 7s7c on 4s Ts 8c , you said that you'd rather check with his hand because he has a spade in it because you don't want to bet / get raised / and have to fold your equity.
In other words, you are implying that the solver likes pocket pairs with a suit to match the flush draw on boards because of *increased equity*.
But that is not why the solver likes pocket pairs with a suit to match the flush draw.
For example, 5h5d.
You call in position against an under the gun raiser.
Flop Comes Th, 3h, 2c. Utg bets pot.
The reason why you'd be happier calling with 5h 5d, as opposed to 5c 5s has nothing to do with the backdoor flush draw. That literally has close to no relevancy when calling with this hand.
But having the 5 of hearts is critical, because on the times when you DO SPIKE A SET on the turn or river, it will NEVER be a *flush completing card*.
5h 5d calls bet on Th, 3h, 2c.
If you spike a set, it will be the 5c, or the 5s.
Utg's value range will have a much easier time paying you when you spike a set on a non flush completing card.
KK looks a lot better calling off a check raise on Th, 3h, 2c, 5s
as opposed to Th, 3h, 2c, 5h {When you hold 5c, 5s}.
It has everything to do with the amount of money you can get paid without a bad turn or river relative to your opponents range. Nothing to do with trying to get a flush.
The raising more when bets are smaller and raising less when bets are larger to protect your range is gold.
The difference between a good poker player and a bad poker player is a good player knows how to win flips and hit flush draws
Everyone wins their share of flips over time, so that’s totally negligible. However if you show me a player who constantly chases flushes and I can guarantee that he’s a losing player over time because the math just doesn’t work out.
The difference between good players vs bad players really is often as simple as having a grasp of the basic math that underlies everything in poker. Just knowing where you are in a poker hand as far as your equity goes is a huge advantage over the average recreational player.
@@thebeerhunter98you don't know he's joking?
And the best ones look like lesbians!
@@Krmpfpksthe whole table is heavy on the soy
@@thebeerhunter98 you must be fun at parties 😁
You sure know how to make good tv with that flip the card game at the end there Doug. Love it
Taras: i raise $75,000
Doug: alright, Taras, we're gonna play one of my favorite games
doig
@@saikgamingproductions ah thank you
@@saikgamingproductions hahaha
@@saikgamingproductions my screen shattered smh
I honestly think deep down he knew KK was good and he did the coinflip thing knowing its a close EV spot so it won't cost him much but makes for an amazing marketing spot
Dougs free lessons are the best.
That sapphie moment is one of my favorite all time on stream, great to see this hand again
This should be titled "how to relive that time I built a massive stack at that game a long time ago"
Just wanna say for what it’s worth 1. Love the teaching content
2.Nice change from the usual very mathematical ranges solver approach easier to wrap your head around for an average player
That pick a card to win is nuts. Love your content and lessons bro.
21:10 The $1/3 cash game miserable nit, "He folded right?"
YES BRO! The supreme leader with an all time banger of a TH-cam poker video! 👑
Great video! I enjoy the layman's terms on how you are thinking in game! Sometimes the numbers get boring but, the thought processes is what alot of viewers will appreciate most,
Is this the type of material that is in the upswing lab?
I think for most rec players, this is the best way to learn!
Thanks for all of your insight into these hands and sessions!
Really enjoyable to hear your thought process!
Please continue posting this type of material.
If I call in this spot at $1/3 they have quad 10’s 99% of the time 😅
Classic thunder valley 1/3 vibes.
Lol but that opens the door for your to exploit very profitably against your non-bluffy player pool.
Where are you playing 1/3 1000 bb deep?
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I don’t play enough anymore to make it worth my while personally, but if this video is a taste of your training, kudos.
I love hearing your thought process. Also, how do you never age? 😂
Doug you’re finding a new TH-cam groove just step by step. ❤. I know it’s taking a while but this is rock solid, credible & you not ruining anyone’s reputation. Wish I could subscribe 20 times & like it a hundred just to give my support.
New? Pretty sure this sort of poker hands is the oldest type o videos on this channel. Drama is discussed only when drama is happening. When people ruin their reputation on their own.
Hey Doug. I tried to contact you in Austin about what we talked about after you were passed out in the park, naked and without your wallet. Get back to me.
😂
lolol
Imagine having that much money that you can let someone randomly pick whether you win or lose a 120k pot
🥵
@DoigPolkPoker this was a great video! Good lessons throughout and kept my attention all the way through, especially at the end with the randomized KK! I bet you made that waitress’s week with whatever size chip you gave her 😊 (hopefully it was at least a 1k!!)
Great stuff, really interesting. I also liked the nice easy way to randomise.
"Aces and Kings are better than Queens and Jacks."
- Doug Polk
Damn, buying the lodge has paid for itself
Thanks for the analysis here Doug. Really good stuff…
"Aces and kings are better than queens and jacks" - great anaylsis as usual 17:44
"from a card removal perspective"... at least pretend to understand the video and his analysis.
@@Davezy1 that would make it less funny so nah
@@Davezy1 at least pretend to understand humor
@@moaf2padventures757 I prefer my humor to be… humerous. Not to mention if you’re going to try to make a joke in verbatim without the ability to denote tone, how are people meant to determine you’re being funny and not just stupid?
@@Davezy1 hey man its totally ok that you didnt get the joke. it certainly wasnt the most well crafted or funniest joke ever. humerous is in the eye of the beholder though. i thought it was mildly amusing and pretty obvious that he was trying to be funny. im sorry that i dont really have any advice to help you detect sarcasm on the interenet but idk maybe dont come in hot being a condescending dickbag if youre not sure next time?? id start there. im guessing thats not going to work for you though lol...
Great content as always Doug, thanks!
I really appreciate this Doug, thank you.
Hey let me show you how to play kings!!! Youre the best doug.
Hey Doug, when are you gonna make another video?
Really like this format
Thank you for this, this helps me so much
This was great. More like this please
Stupid question: what headphones are you wearing and do you like them?
Omg I can't WAIT to play Doug's game!
Loved it Doug so funny well done... must be good being a millionaire flip for 100k😂
Great video! But I have to say, that Taras 77 hand has got to be one of the worst hands of poker that I've ever seen in my entire life lol
Thanks for this
THIS. WAS. AWESOME 😂
Nicely done Doug, thanks!
What if you flop a straight flush over straight flush in PLO, would that be a good way to build a massive stack? Or would it depend on the bad beat jackpot fine print I guess
Rules are rules
i dont get it... you explain this perfectly but some younger/inexperienced players i know, cannot understand this breakdown.... i hate playing poker but love to watch these break downs... it makes me feel less bad about a couple of winning folds ive made lately...
The mistake the raiser made was making the deal. If Doug wants to tell him his hand that’s his business; he should have stayed pat on the semi-bluff then barreled on river if he had the chips to pot it again. It would have put Doug in a very hard spot.
The difference between a high stakes vs a low stakes is their bankroll they have backing them.
I NEVER leave a decision up to a coin flip b/c no matter what I always lose the flip and get what I don't want. I just say "eff it" and call a portion of the time lol
I study poker so that someday I can play with the tropical starburst colored chips.
Albany @ RR ? You look so familiar.
22 mins for 1 hand?! Cmon doug 😂
Safi the real MVP!
What's up Doug, the hair is looking clean
@DougPolkPolker honestly im disappointed this channel isnt called Doug Polker.
when doug doesnt know what to do he makes it flip because he doesnt want to look like he makes a bad call or bad fold thus avoiding responsbility and looking bad to all his potential course buyers .
You don’t even mention once about it being player dependent. Getting raised here on the turn in this spot is 95% of the time a house against most opponents
Because GTO doesn’t care about player tendencies
Thanks Mr. Polk.
with overpair i am going to make people pay for the flop and definitely want draws to pay for the turn
Key to building big stacks: flip a coin for it.
nice one Doug
Hey Doug. I have to admit that Phil Ivey is my favorite Poker player of all time, BUT you sir are a very, very close 2nd! In my opinion you don’t get half the recognition you deserve. Keep up the good work, can’t wait to watch you more….
How is JRB going these days?
Do you think Taras is overbluffing in this spot? If so don't you have to just call your bluff catchers?
Doug is on record as saying he doesn't vary his strategy very much - he just tries to play optimally, content that in the long run that will beat his opponent's deviations.
@@newstandardaccountI do find it bizarre that he does this, though. If he can spot clear tendencies in his opponent, why wouldn't he just capitalize?
@@bobsburgers8885 Against Taras, in the absence of a strong read in either direction, I think you need to make that call fairly often with any over pairs or else you’re just gonna be folding way too much against this particular players style and tendencies.
@@Ohrami Because you open yourself up to making bad reads, reasoning from a small sample size, etc. You also start to open yourself up to other players when they realize what you're doing, though that's less relevant here since the hand was only 2 ways.
I think this probably reflects Doug's specialty, which is heads-up. You play so many hands that you don't need to play so exploitatively.
Personally I think it would benefit him to to change his strats a bit against bluffy players, but Doug forgets more poker in a day than I'll ever know, so...
@@Ohramihe folded the flopped second nuts vs Hellmuth. He's exaggerating if he says that.
What I would give to see Doug check out Balatro
17: 45 min AA & KK are better than QQ & JJ
Awesome video, I learned a lot!😂
Vertucci!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have to call with the kings. The straights and flushes missed and you're only losing to trips and the 8's and 4's full (and AA, but the plays don't suggest he has AA). I'm of course at much lower limit, but the river overbet is a strong is weak acting play. Most trip 10s or boat hands would bet less to get called, not overbet and risk losing the call from you. Great hand though.
doug, where is the session where nik airball is trying to have a poker face and u notice it and start giving him hell, that face and ur comments r poker gold, i want to rewatch it, LMK thanks
The second you allow the house to have RFID tags at the table is where I don't play. To easy to have corruption and over time people won't play here. If your casino needs RFID or cameras to survive it means the game is corrupt.
wow who would have thought all you have to do is get dealt kings and have them hold up! thanks doug! I need more snake oil please, do you have any snake oil for sale?
You definitely need poker coaching since you're a sore losing player. Losing 100% of you think this isn't a thing.
@Hall0w33n_l0v3r I won twenty session in a row lol
@@PeterChessPupil you are definitely a long term losing player and everybody in here knows it based on your comment. Keep being angry and being a loser.
Hands! Getting handsy
Was that a tip of a $5K chip?
yep
I know how you think about poker. Win money good. Lose money not so good but makes good content
Welcome to Doug Polk's (an individual who I admire greatly and whose hand analysis I find mostly spot on) commentary on a hand targeting involving himself and 6 Taras directed specifically at Sir Issac Newton, Albert Einstein and John Nash (who created the Nash Equilibrium) in that order. Certainly to any regular player playing the game in a 2 dimensional model of the world. There is absolutely no one watching this TH-cam video that is applying this much AI and DeepMind analysis of this shit. Doug clearly doesn't believe goat boy has a Ten and is continuing on
The key is to buy in for more
All the losing 1/3 regs in the comments telling literally a top 5 all time poker player what the ACTUAL right move here is is fucking hilarious
crazy flip
More videos like this plz :)
so in summary , think about irrelavent blockers and than flip a coin
There was a lot of good hand analysis in this video, and I’m sure it’ll be quite helpful in some way to most of the people who watch it…
But I feel like there’s definitely a segment of the viewers who will watch this whole clip and what they will take away from it is that Doug just talked about the hand and all it’s possibilities in minute detail for 20+ minutes and what he came up with after all that pondering was flipping a coin for 200 grand because when it comes down to it poker is all in the luck. 😂
TLDW: How to build a massive stack:
Get pocket kings
Two watches?
Lol. He folded! I love it. Thanks for sharing!
What do you mean he folded? :D
I don't know why but Jungleman gives me a bad feeling. Last player that made me so uncomfortable was Brynn Kenny. What's that guy up to these days?
'How to build a massive stack'
*first hand shows pocket kings*
CRAZYYYY yap work
How do you randomize with chips? Let’s say u want to call one third of time?
you spin the chip flat (on top of other chips) then read the logo on it like a watch face…12-4 o’clock = 1/3 of the time
@@tavishmcdonell6615 wow thats great thank you 🙏
Don't like the card flip seems weak (oh I give up I can't figure this out), as a professional trying to sell your product you should be able to make the call or fold.
My fav poker TH-camr…by far. You should do a political show. Like David Packman. Thing you’d be super good at it. Anyways. Ggs.
But why is this close? I don’t get it. It’s close when you don’t have any idea about your opponent. You have played taras for like infinite hrs. There is no reason to randomize. Based on what you know about his play style this is a pure play not indifferent
Love airball... he folded right lol
Where you hiding Doug ? You ain't uploading, you ain't playing ........
21 minutes to break down a hand for us viewers, coming to the conclusion that KK is one of the better hands to call down with in this spot and then letting your opponent choose a card to decide you will call or fold.
That does not make a lot of sense, or does it?
🤢🤢🤢🤢
All that talk. All that strategy. Numbers. Percentages. Theory. And it all came down to a coin toss....
with 2 kings i woulda made taras pay heavy to see that turn card with his pocket 7s check raise is good for the 2nd 10 on river draw
Did anyone understand what he just said?
It's worth noting that without Doug's Lodge Poker results he's net down 1.2mm lifetime at his tracked cash game results. And even including The Lodge he's slightly above breakeven.
why is that worth noting? most of that is from like 1 or 2 ridiculously huge games at hcl anyways lol
yeah but look at his graphs for playing heads up. even if youre right in that hes not a winning high stakes ring game player his analysis is probably still leagues better than yours because of his incredible depth in analyzing heads up.
It's completely irrelevant. There was a stage Jungle was down on livestreams (might still be). The sample size is tiny. It doesn't matter at all.
@@matthewwestcott9138559 hours is not exactly completely irrelevant. You can use a variance simulator to at least be confident within a 99% confidence interval what is winrate is less than.
Taras has a severe case of Fancy Play Syndrome.
Taras is too loose for his own good, but he definitely doesn’t appear to be easy to play against - he’s going to put you to tough decisions when you have marginal hands and you’re just gonna have to make some uncomfortable and expensive calls at times because he’s capable of making huge bets with any two cards. Sometimes that means you’re gonna pay him off big when he has it and you’re not a believer.
21:07 how much was the tip lol
I Think 5k chip XDDD
This is one of my favorite hands from anyone ever
strategywise i like your river decision. but as a viewer i hate it. it doesnt feel like you are actually the one who decides. As a viewer i want those decisions taken by the players, i want the emotions of beeing right or wrong.
Is it "Run into a donkey with more money than sense and then take them for a ride"? because I know how to do that. If it's "play really good poker and dominate the table" then I'm fucked...
One way to have a monster stack is to start with an even bigger one
give up on your comedy dreams, you're not funny
Poker isn’t fun anymore, better to play blackjack and lose to the casino instead of some “crushers” or experts or whatever. My advice, don’t waste your time playing poker unless you want to dedicate your life to it.
🐐🐐🐐