Sultan Murad was extremely traumatised by the death of Sultan Osman.. he didnt want to be nice to the people and he didnt want his Valida to be nice to them either, cus he watched the people lynched his brother
@@madebyilsahe was a child back then. It's not that he was sad for Osman and not Mehmed. Both of his brothers death caused pain to him. Mehmed's death hurt him too. But family members being executed by the sultan was not something new then . On the other hand seeing Osman die He was scared that how cruel Normal civilians can be . It was the first time an ottoman sultan was killed so brutally by normal people. People who rulers and royals always considered as innocent and helpless. But That incident created a hatred for civilians in Murad's mind. He never could see ordinary people in a way every ruler is expected to . He realised no one was innocent at all. He saw the true colours of people.
That's how he is wrong being nice and kind of another thing and being dumb is another thing. Here is where kosam is wrong she didn't explain the things to Murad well or Murad takes things differently
It's lovely how Murad mimics Hurrem when she was angry. I wonder if it's a coincidence or was it planned? Such a nice grand-grand-grandmother grand-grand-grandson similarity.
@@firat5025 well, the way he looks and breathes, when he gets angry, for example. . especially when he´s trying to contain his anger. He definitely got his straightforward and firely temper from his ancestor Hurrem. They look very much alike in the series too.
If hurrem was here she will appreciate the girl’s dream of being haseki sultana. Just like she appreciated nurbanu. Only when nurbanu started being a snake she was annoyed. Kosem really needs to go
lok kosem are much powerful than hurrem, hurrem just a haseki and never rule an entire dynasty which kosem did for 10 years when was a Regent Queen to his young son murad, hurrem power only evolves in the harem but not in a political way which kosem carried as a regent Queen and a Valide Sultana
@@prettysurelourd5703 Don't forget If there was no Hurrem, there would be no Kosem. Moreover Hurrem Sultan is known as the first woman in Ottoman history to concern herself with state affairs. Thanks to her intelligence, she acted as Suleiman's chief adviser on matters of state, and seems to have had an influence upon foreign policy and international politics.
@@exol7518 bruh, kosem ruled the empire for generations, and saved it from collapse so many times. Meanwhile hurrem got her power from her husband. Moreover, kosem got the same amount of power and influence that hurrem had when the empire was in a much more difficult state to handle and maintain. Hurrem’s achievement are extremely impressive, but kosem’s on a whole different level, she kept her nerves of steel till the end
@@ReyReyzzz But Hürrem didn't need the same power as Kösem. Like you wrote-her husband, Magnificent Sultan Süleyman. Kösem was the consort of a teenage boy then mother of 11 year old Sultan and then mother of mentally ill Sultan. Both lived in a different era and both achived something what was unimaginable at each time.
That called power greed lol. We live in somewhat same eara the president that we currently have around the world change the law or forces new laws to be in power forever or for more years.
@@cabrail100 correct..but family is zhe most important.its a blood relation not political how they can kill their own brothers and sons just because of the power??😭😭
@@nenitacalimag2691 well considering that family members want him gone from Throne he has no one to trust thus his new defense is eliminating any member that can be danger to his Throne I guess.
Correct..but cosim families life is do short..cosim son and daughter not in the throne is died by execution .. but who is in the throne they suffering a lot due on thier illment..before they die..
His mother gave him poison via his own doctors to continue the reign from his own power. The purpose of his mother to gain power from his brother as murad donot allow his mother to do so. Now in his death bed he do not want his mother to be sucessful in her mission
Honestly I wouldn't have wanted to have a child with the Sultan. Let me work and then marry me off. I couldn't live in fear that one of my son's brothers would kill him.
so sad - that on throne sat someone like Murad IV. source talked about 6 woman which the Sultan Murad IV had- indirect source talked about 7 woman. Venedik Elçisi Pietro Foscarini 1632 yılına ait yazılarında: (...) Sultan'ın sevdiği bir Arnavut var, söylendiğine göre çok güzel bir kadınmış ve Sultan'ın en gözde karısıymış. Arnavut'un muazzam bir serveti var, bazen Edirne'ye gidip ordaki Saray'da kalıyor ve yanında onlarca hizmetkarlarınıda götürüyor (...) Fransız Elçisi Phillipe d'Harlay 1631 yılına ait yazısında: (...) Büyük Türk'ün dört karısı var. Sonuncusu ile de geçen sene Edirne Sarayında evlendi. Sultan'ın gözde adamlarından Eyüp Paşa'da düğünde bulundu. Bu kadın Arnavut Mustafa Paşa'nın yeğenidir ve babası tarafından dört köy karşılığı çocukken Sultan Ahmet'in kızlarından birine nedimesi olarak verilmiş. Prensesler gibi saygı ve hürmet görmüş ve çok bilgili imiş. Saray'da Arnavut kadın çok nüfuzlu (...) in early murad´s reign are mention about two woman. one of them was ayse haseki sultan the first haseki mandel said that she became favorit afther what she born murad´s first born sonne. according to mandel she was also mother sulejman, mehmed, alaedin, abdulhamind, gevherhan, ismihan, hafsa, handzade, kaya ismihan, safiye and rukie 1640. peci said that all son´s from her died in theire chilhood. mandel said that from 12 children who murad had with ayse survived only 4 daughter safie, kaya, rukiye, handzade, there is also mention that mother kaya in this case ayse fought with kosem to she could chose husband her daughter . we also know that kaya, handzade, rukuye, and safyie were married to the kosem´s candidates. there is also mention about sanavber hatun- charter of her charity was from 1628, so she she could be one of his first wives and the mother of his other daughter de chassepol also talked about second haseki name rossana sultan perci sad that name second haseki appears at the end of the reign of Sultan Murad IV and completely disappeared in february 1640 near Murad's death. some source said that second haseki is resposible for the dead murad´s brother when kosem found proof about her bad behaviour sultan murad IV let executed her and burried her deep in his heart. there is also mention about another woman emighur sister whom was killed by second haseki. also according to evlia celebi from 32 children whom murad had only 8 daughter´s survived. 4 of them were ayse, one one could be from sanavber and there was another three. It is said that murad´s favorit let execuced murad ´s broter´s 1635 one of them had had his full brother. this situacion also mention foscarini when he said murad´s wife inform him what "his brother" did in his ambsence. ayse or second haseki talked about one brother who was executed in 1635 like about his brother. according to some historians it was sulejman. but according to palace register sehzadeler who were alive in 1622 were murad, bayezid, huseyin,kasim,Ibrahim. alderson also mention that during the reign of osman II there were five sehzadeler whowere under protection kosem mehmed, murad, sulejman(mayby bayezid/huseyin), kasim, ibrahim mehmed was executed in 1621. according to source from 17 centuries was beyezid son kosem. source also said that bayezid could be son mahfiruz because when he was born she was alredy dead. why it is bayezid and not huseyin. it is simple according to some source while kosem born another daughter another woman she gave birth to a fourth son huseyin was born 1613 according to sicilii osmany atike was born 1613 and oztuma sad that atike was daughter kosem. tezcan also sad that atike was married at the age 3 or 4 her the first husband died 1618. atike was born 1613 while another woman born her four son-husein 1613, she was not happy so she let her married in the age 3 or 4. back to murad IV source also said that murad IV was exellet Warrior but he was not favorite from peoples like her eldest brother bayezid who was his own eldest brother.because he had no sehzade who survived he he wanted to end the Ottoman dynasty. the first he let executed kasim , then uncle mustafa and Ibrahim but kosem she lied on her deathbed when she said him that Ibrahim was long dead. it is also said that when murad let killed one of his brother in 1635 Bayezid? son kosem her relationship with Murad had cooled completely and when he let executed in 1637 kasim, her heart did not stop crying. sehzade mehmedsource said that when osman let killed her son mehmed her love to him cooled, because she had afraid from another sons she diceded deposed to him and put on throne her yonger son murad, some source said that she she missed her older son because he was not in Istanbul during the coup. but source also said that she still love murad and Ibrahim source murad died in 27 years He invited the executioner to his deathbed, with the task of executing his mentally retarded brother Ibrahim, who could have marked the end of the Ottoman line of rulers. However, the order was not carried out and Ibrahim became his successor, which fatally affected the events in the following years .the cause of murad's death is shrouded in chance because some rumours said that to gevherhan sultan eldest from 25 children of kosem could saved her yonger brother Ibrahim she poisoned to him. some other indirect source said that gevherhan also poisoned his sons to saved ibrahim. in another version was sons murad´s posoned his own mother because she had sfraid about her another sons. but these source didn´t mention that kosem would be able poisoned her own son. what do we know definiteli is Murad IV. b july 27.1612 died in 1640 at the age of 27 of cirrhosis of the liver. question is if murad IV died natural death or he was trully poisoned by his own family because he was so sruel and he wanted end ottoman dynasty. what do we also know is that gevherhan the most propabyl didn´t had good relationship with murad. there was source who said that in 1632 her husband topal pasha want deposed murad and let put on throne bayezid about whom source talked like about eledest own brother murad´s . indirect source also said that gevherhan poisoned to him to save ibrahim infront of . why murad died on cirrhosis of the liver when it was himself who banned the consumption of alcohol. Ps.: source said that gevherhan was eldest child kosem sultan b.1603. according to borekci gevherhan was enrolled as the only female member of the family after valide handan sultan in 1604 but according to sakaoglu it wasn´t gevherhan daughter selim II because she was alredy dead. cortarini mention fact that ahmed sadduced yong mahpeyker hatun durring the reign mehmed III. also sicili osmany said that eldest child ahmed was born 15.11.1603 he thought that it was osman but osman was brn 4.11.1604 it was the most propably gevherhan. source said that gevherhan was the most propably edest child kosem thanks to whom she became haseki in 1604 george sandys said that "he also "had" married his concubine the mother of his yonger sonne" he talked about past time, which mean that when kosem became mother mehmed she must have been haseki a long time ago
It was ambition and greed of power of European lineage Valide Sultanas and other power greedy PPL of time which make Ottoman Sultan act cruel with their brothers and uncles. They were brothers, normally love eachother.
that "cruel" empire had only one problem. and that was killing brothers. but people of ottoman empire were very happy. because justice was build in their courts. judiciary system of them was best at that time. but in democracy rulers and riches can buy anyone.
@@truthisbitter7086 happy?? They treated places like lebanon and syria so bad under occupation, its all over our history books. Osman empire is the cruelest and far from islam
He was right. Kösem sultan did the same to him, sultan Osman and later sultan Ibrahim. Kosem was the greatest trattor of the dynasty. Murad had to kill his mother. I hate kosem. Sultan murad is the best!!!!!!
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Sultan Murad was extremely traumatised by the death of Sultan Osman.. he didnt want to be nice to the people and he didnt want his Valida to be nice to them either, cus he watched the people lynched his brother
but what he didn't realize was sultan osman executed prince mehmed, now here he doesn't consider his brother as sinner?
@@madebyilsahe was a child back then. It's not that he was sad for Osman and not Mehmed. Both of his brothers death caused pain to him. Mehmed's death hurt him too. But family members being executed by the sultan was not something new then . On the other hand seeing Osman die He was scared that how cruel Normal civilians can be . It was the first time an ottoman sultan was killed so brutally by normal people. People who rulers and royals always considered as innocent and helpless. But That incident created a hatred for civilians in Murad's mind. He never could see ordinary people in a way every ruler is expected to . He realised no one was innocent at all. He saw the true colours of people.
That's how he is wrong being nice and kind of another thing and being dumb is another thing.
Here is where kosam is wrong she didn't explain the things to Murad well or Murad takes things differently
@@iiiiiiaaaandidiwinnnneo👌👌exactly
So happy to see Kemankes and Crazy friends again and fighting side by side. They're a great team.
It's lovely how Murad mimics Hurrem when she was angry. I wonder if it's a coincidence or was it planned? Such a nice grand-grand-grandmother grand-grand-grandson similarity.
How is he mimicing her?
@@firat5025 well, the way he looks and breathes, when he gets angry, for example. . especially when he´s trying to contain his anger. He definitely got his straightforward and firely temper from his ancestor Hurrem. They look very much alike in the series too.
I definitely see it now! Wow, they would have been an unstoppable team together.
I love Atike !! MY FAV OTTOMON PRINCESS AFTER MIHRIMAH
If hurrem was here she will appreciate the girl’s dream of being haseki sultana. Just like she appreciated nurbanu. Only when nurbanu started being a snake she was annoyed. Kosem really needs to go
lok kosem are much powerful than hurrem, hurrem just a haseki and never rule an entire dynasty which kosem did for 10 years when was a Regent Queen to his young son murad, hurrem power only evolves in the harem but not in a political way which kosem carried as a regent Queen and a Valide Sultana
@@prettysurelourd5703 Don't forget
If there was no Hurrem, there would be no Kosem.
Moreover Hurrem Sultan is known as the first woman in Ottoman history to concern herself with state affairs. Thanks to her intelligence, she acted as Suleiman's chief adviser on matters of state, and seems to have had an influence upon foreign policy and international politics.
@@exol7518 bruh, kosem ruled the empire for generations, and saved it from collapse so many times. Meanwhile hurrem got her power from her husband. Moreover, kosem got the same amount of power and influence that hurrem had when the empire was in a much more difficult state to handle and maintain. Hurrem’s achievement are extremely impressive, but kosem’s on a whole different level, she kept her nerves of steel till the end
@@ReyReyzzz But Hürrem didn't need the same power as Kösem. Like you wrote-her husband, Magnificent Sultan Süleyman. Kösem was the consort of a teenage boy then mother of 11 year old Sultan and then mother of mentally ill Sultan. Both lived in a different era and both achived something what was unimaginable at each time.
Did anyone notice that at first colours were bright in mc but now they become darker
16:01 the song and the acts sooo good 😍🥺
18:50 Did you notice Atike is wearing the same dress with kosem when kosem was younger?
Yes it's true
Yes but long sleeves are removed. She also was wearing the same velvet blue dress and the black dress which Kosem was wearing at the funerals.
They want to many children. But when the children grow up they kill them just because if the throne..what kind if gwneration is this?
That called power greed lol. We live in somewhat same eara the president that we currently have around the world change the law or forces new laws to be in power forever or for more years.
@@cabrail100 correct..but family is zhe most important.its a blood relation not political how they can kill their own brothers and sons just because of the power??😭😭
@@nenitacalimag2691 well considering that family members want him gone from Throne he has no one to trust thus his new defense is eliminating any member that can be danger to his Throne I guess.
Correct..but cosim families life is do short..cosim son and daughter not in the throne is died by execution .. but who is in the throne they suffering a lot due on thier illment..before they die..
It's called the barbaric Ottoman culture of fracticide.
32:06 - Emirgune foreshadowing yet another death.
I don't get it. He was dying. Why was he worried about his brother taking the throne from him.
He didn’t want his mom in power.
Ibrahim's Reign nearly broke the Ottoman Empire.
He didn't want the leadership to continue from his brother lineage
Ibrahim goes on to be one of the worst Sultans in history. 😅
His mother gave him poison via his own doctors to continue the reign from his own power. The purpose of his mother to gain power from his brother as murad donot allow his mother to do so. Now in his death bed he do not want his mother to be sucessful in her mission
Did king Murad wanted to end the bloodline and finish the empire?
yes
yes he wished to pass the throne to crimean khan family so that kosem sultan power & conspiracy come to an end
@@hasanzaman9676why
Yes, but only in this show.
Husayn Pasha is cool.🤣
Honestly I wouldn't have wanted to have a child with the Sultan. Let me work and then marry me off. I couldn't live in fear that one of my son's brothers would kill him.
Fr 😌 the sultanas live is never save 😂
so sad - that on throne sat someone like Murad IV.
source talked about 6 woman which the Sultan Murad IV had- indirect source talked about 7 woman.
Venedik Elçisi Pietro Foscarini 1632 yılına ait yazılarında:
(...) Sultan'ın sevdiği bir Arnavut var, söylendiğine göre çok güzel bir kadınmış ve Sultan'ın en gözde karısıymış. Arnavut'un muazzam bir serveti var, bazen Edirne'ye gidip ordaki Saray'da kalıyor ve yanında onlarca hizmetkarlarınıda götürüyor (...)
Fransız Elçisi Phillipe d'Harlay 1631 yılına ait yazısında:
(...) Büyük Türk'ün dört karısı var. Sonuncusu ile de geçen sene Edirne Sarayında evlendi. Sultan'ın gözde adamlarından Eyüp Paşa'da düğünde bulundu. Bu kadın Arnavut Mustafa Paşa'nın yeğenidir ve babası tarafından dört köy karşılığı çocukken Sultan Ahmet'in kızlarından birine nedimesi olarak verilmiş. Prensesler gibi saygı ve hürmet görmüş ve çok bilgili imiş. Saray'da Arnavut kadın çok nüfuzlu (...)
in early murad´s reign are mention about two woman. one of them was ayse haseki sultan the first haseki mandel said that she became favorit afther what she born murad´s first born sonne. according to mandel she was also mother sulejman, mehmed, alaedin, abdulhamind, gevherhan, ismihan, hafsa, handzade, kaya ismihan, safiye and rukie 1640. peci said that all son´s from her died in theire chilhood. mandel said that from 12 children who murad had with ayse survived only 4 daughter safie, kaya, rukiye, handzade, there is also mention that mother kaya in this case ayse fought with kosem to she could chose husband her daughter . we also know that kaya, handzade, rukuye, and safyie were married to the kosem´s candidates.
there is also mention about sanavber hatun- charter of her charity was from 1628, so she she could be one of his first wives and the mother of his other daughter
de chassepol also talked about second haseki name rossana sultan perci sad that name second haseki appears at the end of the reign of Sultan Murad IV and completely disappeared in february 1640 near Murad's death. some source said that second haseki is resposible for the dead murad´s brother when kosem found proof about her bad behaviour sultan murad IV let executed her and burried her deep in his heart. there is also mention about another woman emighur sister whom was killed by second haseki.
also according to evlia celebi from 32 children whom murad had only 8 daughter´s survived. 4 of them were ayse, one one could be from sanavber and there was another three.
It is said that murad´s favorit let execuced murad ´s broter´s 1635 one of them had had his full brother. this situacion also mention foscarini when he said murad´s wife inform him what "his brother" did in his ambsence. ayse or second haseki talked about one brother who was executed in 1635 like about his brother. according to some historians it was sulejman.
but according to palace register sehzadeler who were alive in 1622 were murad, bayezid, huseyin,kasim,Ibrahim.
alderson also mention that during the reign of osman II there were five sehzadeler whowere under protection kosem mehmed, murad, sulejman(mayby bayezid/huseyin), kasim, ibrahim mehmed was executed in 1621. according to source from 17 centuries was beyezid son kosem. source also said that bayezid could be son mahfiruz because when he was born she was alredy dead. why it is bayezid and not huseyin. it is simple according to some source while kosem born another daughter another woman she gave birth to a fourth son huseyin was born 1613 according to sicilii osmany atike was born 1613 and oztuma sad that atike was daughter kosem. tezcan also sad that atike was married at the age 3 or 4 her the first husband died 1618. atike was born 1613 while another woman born her four son-husein 1613, she was not happy so she let her married in the age 3 or 4.
back to murad IV source also said that murad IV was exellet Warrior but he was not favorite from peoples like her eldest brother bayezid who was his own eldest brother.because he had no sehzade who survived he he wanted to end the Ottoman dynasty. the first he let executed kasim , then uncle mustafa and Ibrahim but kosem she lied on her deathbed when she said him that Ibrahim was long dead. it is also said that when murad let killed one of his brother in 1635 Bayezid? son kosem her relationship with Murad had cooled completely and when he let executed in 1637 kasim, her heart did not stop crying.
sehzade mehmedsource said that when osman let killed her son mehmed her love to him cooled, because she had afraid from another sons she diceded deposed to him and put on throne her yonger son murad, some source said that she she missed her older son because he was not in Istanbul during the coup.
but source also said that she still love murad and Ibrahim
source murad died in 27 years He invited the executioner to his deathbed, with the task of executing his mentally retarded brother Ibrahim, who could have marked the end of the Ottoman line of rulers. However, the order was not carried out and Ibrahim became his successor, which fatally affected the events in the following years
.the cause of murad's death is shrouded in chance because some rumours said that to gevherhan sultan eldest from 25 children of kosem could saved her yonger brother Ibrahim she poisoned to him. some other indirect source said that gevherhan also poisoned his sons to saved ibrahim. in another version was sons murad´s posoned his own mother because she had sfraid about her another sons. but these source didn´t mention that kosem would be able poisoned her own son.
what do we know definiteli is Murad IV. b july 27.1612 died in 1640 at the age of 27 of cirrhosis of the liver.
question is if murad IV died natural death or he was trully poisoned by his own family because he was so sruel and he wanted end ottoman dynasty.
what do we also know is that gevherhan the most propabyl didn´t had good relationship with murad. there was source who said that in 1632 her husband topal pasha want deposed murad and let put on throne bayezid about whom source talked like about eledest own brother murad´s . indirect source also said that gevherhan poisoned to him to save ibrahim infront of .
why murad died on cirrhosis of the liver when it was himself who banned the consumption of alcohol.
Ps.: source said that gevherhan was eldest child kosem sultan b.1603. according to borekci gevherhan was enrolled as the only female member of the family after valide handan sultan in 1604 but according to sakaoglu it wasn´t gevherhan daughter selim II because she was alredy dead. cortarini mention fact that ahmed sadduced yong mahpeyker hatun durring the reign mehmed III. also sicili osmany said that eldest child ahmed was born 15.11.1603 he thought that it was osman but osman was brn 4.11.1604 it was the most propably gevherhan. source said that gevherhan was the most propably edest child kosem thanks to whom she became haseki in 1604 george sandys said that "he also "had" married his concubine the mother of his yonger sonne" he talked about past time, which mean that when kosem became mother mehmed she must have been haseki a long time ago
Murad was a dodo at the top. Gosh, completely insane. But good that such ppl came and ruled which eventually led to downfall of this cruel Empire.
It was ambition and greed of power of European lineage Valide Sultanas and other power greedy PPL of time which make Ottoman Sultan act cruel with their brothers and uncles. They were brothers, normally love eachother.
that "cruel" empire had only one problem.
and that was killing brothers.
but people of ottoman empire were very happy. because justice was build in their courts.
judiciary system of them was best at that time.
but in democracy rulers and riches can buy anyone.
@@truthisbitter7086 happy?? They treated places like lebanon and syria so bad under occupation, its all over our history books. Osman empire is the cruelest and far from islam
@@hy-pg6xz prove it
@@affanahmed4661exactly👌👌
Why sinnan pasha is here
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He was right. Kösem sultan did the same to him, sultan Osman and later sultan Ibrahim. Kosem was the greatest trattor of the dynasty. Murad had to kill his mother. I hate kosem. Sultan murad is the best!!!!!!
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Dirty game
Какие жестокие, дикие, кровожадные мусульмане!
kitni mushkil zindagi thi inki sabki..