Ibrahim Can't Get Enough Concubines | Magnificent Century Kosem

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  • @saveyzismail1715
    @saveyzismail1715 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    There is no order left after Murad its just chaos in the palace

    • @kishorek2272
      @kishorek2272 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Because this was the sign of the great Caliphate's fall 🇹🇷!

    • @lindydaddario8844
      @lindydaddario8844 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      After Suleiman, the Ottoman Empire started to decline . Some of the sultans, did do great things for the Turkish people, but because of bad government decisions, corruption, lost of territories and lands, and other factors, most of the sultans did not carry on Suleiman's traditions some did fight in wars for the empire, but many stayed home in the harem and let others fight for them.

    • @kishorek2272
      @kishorek2272 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lindydaddario8844 The 3 Ottomans sultans namely:-sultan Murad Khan iv, sultan Mahmud ii,and sultan Abdulhamid Khan ii were powerful after Ottoman sultan sulieman i the magnificent,my dear brother 🔥❤️ 🇹🇷!

    • @lindydaddario8844
      @lindydaddario8844 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Being more powerful means nothing if you mismanage the affairs of state. And after Suleiman, as much as they may of done great things for the empire, Murad, Mustafa, Osman, Ibrahim, Ahmed, etc.had a few screws loose, and lost territories and prestige starting the decline of the empire

    • @asurmenhandofasuryan4610
      @asurmenhandofasuryan4610 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@lindydaddario8844 The empire was in decline even before Suleiman died. It began late into his rule.

  • @keizelharf5393
    @keizelharf5393 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    In real life, Sultan Ibrahim had eight haseki sultans. Previous sultans had some consorts but normally only one of them elevated to haseki rank.

    • @kishorek2272
      @kishorek2272 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      And Rabia sultan (wife of sultan Ahmed ii of Ottoman Empire) was the last Haseki sultan of the Ottoman Empire and after her none of them hold this title 🇹🇷 !

    • @cherylpiorkowski
      @cherylpiorkowski ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm curious, how did the hierarchy of the harem work when there were multiple Haseki Sultans? Were all the Hasekis considered equal?

    • @keizelharf5393
      @keizelharf5393 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@cherylpiorkowski i think not. They're divided into first Haseki, second Haseki, etc. Turhan was first haseki for some time, so she was the highest rank of Ibrahim's consorts, but i don't know after Humashah became Ibrahim's wife.

    • @cherylpiorkowski
      @cherylpiorkowski ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@keizelharf5393 Thank you so much for taking the time to answer! Harem politics have always fascinated me.

    • @kishorek2272
      @kishorek2272 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@cherylpiorkowski The Harem of sultan Abdulmejid i of Ottoman Empire will makes you more interesting than this.Because he had more than 26 wives that includes:-4-kadins,4-ikbals,4-Gozdes,and other minor concubines,also he had more than 46,or 47 children(including the Ottoman sultans namely:-sultan Murad v the mad, sultan Abdul Hamid Khan ii, Sultan Mehmed Resad v,and sultan Mehmed vahideddin vi)🇹🇷!

  • @meravigliagame3032
    @meravigliagame3032 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    This music of Suleiman and Hurrem.. i will always remember.

  • @user-mm8ei9nx4o
    @user-mm8ei9nx4o 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It's impressive how within about 400 years, the Ottomans turned from something like Mehmed The Conqueror to this stupidity.

    • @hafsa958
      @hafsa958 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      maybe we can blame the sultanate of woman for this

    • @user-mm8ei9nx4o
      @user-mm8ei9nx4o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hafsa958
      Absolutely.

    • @legendboyyo3188
      @legendboyyo3188 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@user-mm8ei9nx4o what absolutely? If the women sultanate wasn't there then Ottoman empire would have died! After Ahmed I, the Ottomans became very unstable with Mustafa I and Osman II. Kosem had to take the throne as her son Murad IV was only a little kid. If she wasnt there, the janissaries would have taken complete control of the empire. Would u have wanted that? Murad IV died from an inherited disease same as his father Ahmed I. And his brother Ibrahim I was the only one alive to take the throne. Kosem, Turhan and the janissaries had to do everything cuz Ibrahim was mad

    • @user-mm8ei9nx4o
      @user-mm8ei9nx4o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@legendboyyo3188 The historical term "Saltanate of Women" refers to a historical era, with every historical figure included, men and women.
      My point is I was not shaming Kosem and other women in the hierarchy, I was shaming everyone. And yes, if the empire just ended at its peak that would've been preferable to me than how it was at and after the Saltanate of Women.

  • @coltthestarsheriff3544
    @coltthestarsheriff3544 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Of all blood sultanas in both series, Atike is the closest one to a normal person. Seems kind enough and reasonable.

  • @jinx7501
    @jinx7501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    He had 8 Haseki. They were the only survivors after Sivekar made him suspect infedility within his harem.
    So he had them put in sacks and thrown into the sea. 250+ of them if I'm remembering right.

  • @manahilsikander7705
    @manahilsikander7705 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Ibrahim destroyed the importance of the Haseki Sultan title having 8 of them

    • @draganagavric4944
      @draganagavric4944 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well it kinda started with Murad III when he granted Safiye the title while Valide Sultan was still around, then Ahmed gave it ro Kösem, altough I get his reason, she was not the Haseki like the other ones, same goes for Osman II Hasek and Murad also made it meaningless when Ayse became Haseki while Valide is around and then gave the the second Haseki. And yes, Ibrahim made huge mess with the title. So technically "traditional" Haseki like it was supposed to be were Hürem, Nurbanu, Safiye (especially after Nurbanu died) and Emetullah Rabia Gülnus

    • @multipurpose6984
      @multipurpose6984 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@draganagavric4944KOSEM SULTAN TOO

  • @ignacynowakowski2282
    @ignacynowakowski2282 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The historical Sultan Ibrahim had many more concubines.

    • @kishorek2272
      @kishorek2272 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just like his descendant sultan Abdulmejid i of Ottoman Empire, right 🇹🇷 ?

  • @Lucy_Heartfilia822
    @Lucy_Heartfilia822 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I jaw dropped when he threw Mehmed, I don’t know what I was expecting him to do 😀

  • @mihaelbitola3812
    @mihaelbitola3812 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The majority of the people don't know that in the real life the sultan Ibrahim have ordered for all women from his harem to be drowned in to the sea, and all of them were in chains. After that the ottoman Vezirs have decided to kill sultan Ibrahim, he was called the crazy Ibrahim.

    • @RanaHaroon-gr5pj
      @RanaHaroon-gr5pj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So how turhan was alive

    • @mihaelbitola3812
      @mihaelbitola3812 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@RanaHaroon-gr5pj she was a mother of Sehzade/ Prince , nobody can take her life, even the sultan can't. He drowned his harem, the concubines, about 200 of them. Some fishermen found the drowned girls, and the people in Istanbul have gone crazy because of that, the pashas were afraid that the people will start rebellion, and they sacrificed sultan Ibrahim.

    • @RanaHaroon-gr5pj
      @RanaHaroon-gr5pj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mihaelbitola3812 ok but my question is why he did this

    • @RanaHaroon-gr5pj
      @RanaHaroon-gr5pj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mihaelbitola3812 and why kosem did nothing to save the harem

    • @mihaelbitola3812
      @mihaelbitola3812 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RanaHaroon-gr5pj because he was mentally unstable, he was imprisoned from childhood, watching all of his brothers, one by one being strangled by the order of the sultan, waiting every night for the executioners to come to his door.
      The historians are saying that he was paranoid, and he believed that his concubines are not faithful to him, and he ordered to be thrown a life in the Sea. The ottoman princess/Sehzades were living a terrible lifes, when one of them will became a sultan he must to kill all of his brothers, so there will be no struggle for the throne, with that law, they were saving millions of innocent life's.
      The father of Ibrahim, the Sultan Ahmed was the first sultan that tried to change that law, and he didn't kill his brother. When his son Murat became the sultan, he also didn't give an order for his brothers and uncle to be killed , but later he was also paranoid, and killed his uncle and all of his brothers one by one, only the crazy Ibrahim survived, and he became a sultan. Ottoman history is fascinating.

  • @kishorek2272
    @kishorek2272 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Zafire Hatun (zarife Hatun)🇹🇷🇬🇪:-
    Ottoman sultan Ibrahim the mad's Georgian concubine.while he still sehzade(prince),she became pregnant in violation of Harem rules.His mother kosem valide Sultan handed her over to kizlari agasi sumbul Agha to drown her, but the man hid her in his house,where she gave birth to her son.Having discovered this,Kosem exiled them to Egypt,but the ship was attacked.while the child was saved and taken to Malta,it is not known what happened to Zafire Hatun(Zarife Hatun)!

    • @AslıK34
      @AslıK34 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There is no concubine called Zarife. She and her son are fictional charachters cause they were not written in harem register

    • @kishorek2272
      @kishorek2272 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​​​@@AslıK34No,she and her own son were the real historical characters also they were mentioned in the many Venetian ambassadorial reports🇹🇷!

    • @random.store.17
      @random.store.17 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They're real, and Zafire's son become a priest after taken to malta.

  • @shabnamjamil1556
    @shabnamjamil1556 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Ibrahim was like clown 100% not like a king I don’t know why they let him to role as king he is so funny even he didn’t know how to act like a king 😅

  • @ΔημΣΚ
    @ΔημΣΚ ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Why valide sultan left melek as head treasurer lol she should have sent her to old palace

  • @Lucy_Heartfilia822
    @Lucy_Heartfilia822 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    I’m real life Ibrahim began to favor the son of a random slave woman -a child that wasn’t biologically his- and Turhan complained about the affection he showed the boy instead of his actual son so Ibrahim went into a rage and threw Mehmed into a pool -which was much deeper than it looks here- he only survived because some servants saved him, but he would forever have a scar of his head

    • @lena_nguyen17
      @lena_nguyen17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In real life, she wouldn’t have cared if he gave another woman’s son affection as long as it was his. She cared for all the princes Ibrahim had and protected all of them from execution after her son became Sultan.

    • @Lucy_Heartfilia822
      @Lucy_Heartfilia822 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@lena_nguyen17 well in real life this did happen and she clearly cared

    • @lena_nguyen17
      @lena_nguyen17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Lucy_Heartfilia822 I agree with what you said. I just wanted to add on that she wouldn’t have cared so much if it was his actual son (besides her own) he gave affection towards

  • @RA-pc2du
    @RA-pc2du 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The harem is such a horrible institution, and the fact that it is glamorized in some ways is disgusting. Every woman in there was a slave. This part of slavery never gets the amount of attention that the Transatlantic Slave Trade receives, which is very unfortunate. They both should be taught equally. Where are all the memorials and monuments for these victims of slavery? I hope these women and other victims of the Ottoman Slave Trade will one day get the memorials and remembrance that they deserve.

  • @Caramelpop86
    @Caramelpop86 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Tbh this girl is nuts to go willingly to the harem.

    • @lovetobe6118
      @lovetobe6118 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe its because she doesn't know much about it. We know because we have watched this serious and Ibrahim could said anything to entice her. It was a foolish move on her part but an uneducated one at that.

  • @vlsice2024
    @vlsice2024 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The audacity to take a bride from her own wedding

  • @נעםמרקוביץ
    @נעםמרקוביץ ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's truly amazing how the empire survived with sultans like Ibrahim at the top. And the the hardly any heirs to choose, i mean didn't by Ibrahim death, there were only three of them left? And all of whom were under the Age of ten?

  • @nelliethursday1812
    @nelliethursday1812 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    14:58 those bars look a lot like PVC piping

  • @mimioweida9333
    @mimioweida9333 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He was the funnest Sultan. 😂

  • @aytensirinova378
    @aytensirinova378 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Məncə Turhan sultan o qızların hamısından gözəldi.🌸🌼

  • @ΔημΣΚ
    @ΔημΣΚ ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Osman is not a prince and can't be heir, Ibrahim. Why no one accepts that valide sultan is above them?

    • @dannie4528
      @dannie4528 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hes technically ibrahims illegitimate heir. Born before he was enthroned. Against their laws. But if something happened to all the other heirs he'd be their only choice

    • @ΔημΣΚ
      @ΔημΣΚ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dannie4528 ye only in that case

    • @kishorek2272
      @kishorek2272 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dannie4528 Like that sehzade Mehmed selim was also born in 1870,6-years before the coronation of his father sultan Abdulhamid Khan ii as the next Ottoman sultan in 1876.But he was considered as the legitimate heir by other Ottoman royal family members then why sehzade osman was not considered or recognised like him 🇹🇷🤔?

    • @mymuse4869
      @mymuse4869 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@kishorek2272because ibrahim had not been sent to the sanjak yet during osman's mother's pregnancy. Remember in MC any prince who never have sanjak to rule cannot impregnant a concubine.

    • @s0neskim
      @s0neskim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kishorek2272Because Osman was born inside the Topkapi palace and he cannot be sent to govern any sanjak due to his mental health. If he did have a child when he was away then it would be acceptable. Plus the one who set the Sehzade to have “hamam” was Valide or Haseki Sultan or the Treasurer of the Harem like Daye Hatun

  • @diamond4603
    @diamond4603 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't know how waa their relationship in history but if Kosem liked Turhan as her daughter she should have just followed her she was alread old no needed to kill

  • @ΔημΣΚ
    @ΔημΣΚ ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Lol atike is trying to act as valide sultan. Sorry you aren't one, like it or not

    • @dannie4528
      @dannie4528 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Shes waaayyyyy to used to getting her way. Especially after what she did to silhathar and her sister.

    • @ΔημΣΚ
      @ΔημΣΚ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dannie4528 it's ok in 3 episodes she will lose

    • @s0neskim
      @s0neskim ปีที่แล้ว +6

      real, she may be a true born Sultana but only the only Sultana that can achieve Haseki or Valide title was concubines who gave birth and got married/elevated by the Sultan

  • @sarahkazmi6073
    @sarahkazmi6073 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How come they have hair straightner/curlers in those times.why did they show it?

  • @ΔημΣΚ
    @ΔημΣΚ ปีที่แล้ว +46

    How could atike defend him??? Lol

    • @dannie4528
      @dannie4528 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      To spite her mother and she wanted him to have many heirs as she saw all her brothers die fighting for the throne.

    • @ΔημΣΚ
      @ΔημΣΚ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dannie4528 lols and who is she to decide that

    • @TJRhea
      @TJRhea ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Atike has no morals herself if you think about it. She just says whatever she needs to in order to get what she wants.

    • @Caramelpop86
      @Caramelpop86 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@TJRhea no morals. She ran to Murad to get him to engage her to her sister's lover.

  • @SalandCuz2941
    @SalandCuz2941 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The harem lost so much colour

  • @Caramelpop86
    @Caramelpop86 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would not want to be fussed at by Kosem. She's scary. 😅

  • @İlk_hmdov575
    @İlk_hmdov575 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Geliyo yine çilos Sultan 😂😂😂😂

  • @al-wassiuulaleem9500
    @al-wassiuulaleem9500 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    21:27 witch

  • @CusterJ1954
    @CusterJ1954 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ibriham reminds me of the gross Joffrey from House of Lannister in Game of thrones … Turhan did deserve better and her boy too 😢

  • @Aristonika9999
    @Aristonika9999 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What didn’t the writers of the series do to whitewash Kosem and demonize Turhan! Kosem never raised Turhan, never had any warm feelings for her, and certainly never was a “good mommy” for her! What a lie! She generally ignored her existence until her son Mehmed was placed on the throne and she began to contradict Kosem. Turhan was never the main haseki, she was just the first concubine to give birth to a son. Ibrahim had five haseki, and they all had equal status and position. His favorite before the appearance of Humashah was Saliha, since she received the highest salary in comparison with other haseki. Kosem constantly supplied him with new concubines just so that he would not have a favorite concubine. She could never demonstrate her power in the way shown here, simply because she never had any power. She was essentially a nobody. Turhan was alone in the harem, her husband did not love her, and Kosem did not care about her.

    • @Lucy_Heartfilia822
      @Lucy_Heartfilia822 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You are Majorly wrong here about Turhan and Kösem’s relationship. Turhan was captured in one of the raids by tatars and sold into slavery she was sent to the imperial palace presented there as a gift from Kör Süleyman Pasha to Kösem Sultan she was trained by Atike Sultan and groomed by Kösem who presented her as a concubine to Ibrahim. Mehmed was ignored by Ibrahim and Turhan complained about it so in a fit of rage he took Mehmed from Turhan’s arms and threw Mehmed into a pool in which he was saved by servants.
      She might not have been all mommy to Kösem but she wasn’t ignored by her either.

  • @christianbolze7092
    @christianbolze7092 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is there a christian cross in Turhans tiara?

  • @LeniaAntoniades
    @LeniaAntoniades ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Harem hatun

  • @okanokumus6592
    @okanokumus6592 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kossem à rendu fou tout ses fils,osman où Murad aurait du la tué

  • @GhadaMaalouf
    @GhadaMaalouf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Turhannn deserved better.

  • @dinazwadia1487
    @dinazwadia1487 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Atike is the worst person. Selfish, cold hearted and a user of her siblings. She should have been exiled to Edirne by Murad.

  • @GabyHernandez-rv3vo
    @GabyHernandez-rv3vo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂😂😂many kids

  • @george3rd815
    @george3rd815 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wrong choice for Turhan sultan that girl has big lips with hyaluronic and high women didn’t had lips like that

    • @Aristonika9999
      @Aristonika9999 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Turhan was also a Slav with blonde hair and blue eyes. And this actress has a typical Turkic appearance.

    • @konmaj
      @konmaj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Aristonika9999 Turkish? IMO her appearance is more Spanish, Italian or French.

    • @Aristonika9999
      @Aristonika9999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@konmaj A lot of turkish women look like her.

  • @LeniaAntoniades
    @LeniaAntoniades ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nurbanu hatun

  • @nancyramirez516
    @nancyramirez516 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I CAN'T STAND TURAN & NURBANU UGH!!