LG Fridge not cold? SOLVED..Finally!! Stop wasting your money!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ค. 2023
- Stop throwing money to willing repair people only to find they didn't fix the problem!
In this video we show what is the real problem with many of the broken LG, Samsung, and Kenmore elite refrigerators that are often less than 5 years old. Sometimes referred to as an "unfixable problem", once discovered it was a quick (unconventional) repair. This is the real problem for many of these units that have a "sealed system" that no amount of new parts will ever fix.
FWIW- Several brands (Samsung, Kenmore elite, and LG just to name a few) share the same parts from what I have read, but may not have the exact same layout or problem.
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This information is very helpful. I am a maintenance technician for apartment complexes. Some complexes want us to know how to work on appliances as well. So im glad there is information like this out there. I seen one of your replies saying that you were making a video that goes into more detail. I look forward to seeing that one as well. Great video 👍
Thanks glad it helped you. Yes we will make another soon. This one I guess was more of an overview of what I found, didn't realize just how big this problem was so we're going to go into the troubleshooting and actual repair in another vid. If I could just get the time! Thank for watching we appreciate it.
You are the best for sharing this! My story is the exact same: local LG tech replaced compressor followed by the cond coil (my cost)! Still didn't work so he then wanted to order evap coil (my cost)! I Leaked checked the evap coil myself then tore into the foam and found exact same leak, in exact same spot, also running 5 years!
I would have never known you could just bypass it, so I'm going to try that 👍
PS. LG demands a photo of paper receipt to consider reimbursement. Ordered online, never had one. Crooked!
On one hand glad you found this helpful and were able to diagnose, on the other hand that sucks to have still spent the money as I did on parts that were not needed. Should be good for a long time now! Thanks for watching!
Damn that was the issue! I was stumped cause everything checked back within margin. I knew there was a leak but couldn’t find it, as soon as I cut away the section you showed and started digging into the foam I saw a gusher.😂 Now to cancel the new fridge order. Thank you!
I'm glad to hear that, incredible how many otherwise good refs have been tossed for this. Good news is, once repaired mine has been flawless for I think 1.5 years now. Thanks for watching!
Appreciate it, my mom has the same fridge. Hers went out and the service man said it was the compressor and the cost would be $1600 so I told I'll put it in. I hope it isn't that line.
Watch out for the repair man on these LG, they are often misdiagnosed mainly because of the better known issues such as the compressor problems (there was a class action lawsuit). As these refrigerators get more complex there is only more room for problems. Using these steel lines cas certainly a bad choice on their part, but def worth pressure testing for a leak first. If your comp lines are not getting hot your likely short or out of the refrigerant. We will probably make another video on a few troubleshooting tips for this issue.
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Had the compressor changed by certified appliance person a year ago due to the lawsuit. Started acting up recently. Diagnosed Freezer fan, changed that, diagnosed compressor Thermo, changed that. Still isn't working right. Not cold enough. I bet this is my issue. This helped greatly. I will never by LG again. Thanks for this info
Yes def look for this and please tell me the installed a valve for you on the new comp?! I did mostly the same. Initially I was able to recharge and it worked fine for about 6 months, then charged again and lasted about 4 months, and then it would not hold vacuum. I believe that progression was consistent with the corrosion as it was likely a pin hole at first that worsened until it was the open hole I discovered. Def use pressure (100psi) and you may even be able to hear it. I was able to hear mine but again that was when it was at it's worst. This thing has been a thorn for me as well, but if we're honest they are all likely junk anymore. That said I'll be keeping this one and stick with the devil I know for now! Hope this helps you, let us know what you find!
@@fourboysgarage745 I bit the bullet and bought a new fridge. I've been weeks with bad temps. Wife and kids are going to burn me at the stake. I decided to not bypass the line and sell it for what I can get for it. Energy company will give me $50, so that is worst case scenario. We will not be purchasing any more LG products. Engineered obsolescence is the worst thing to happen to appliances. Thanks for informative vid
Bummer! I feel ya on that though! Full disclosure my ref was out during that tail end of covid, and there was a run on appliances! Availability was terrible and wait times/ prices were super crazy! Def pushed me to find a solution to this. 2 mini refrigerators, a small chest freezer, and 2.5 months later I had it figured out!! You could still repair your old one and make a great garage refrigerator! Either way thanks for watching and best of luck!
Yeah mine just broke it cost 200 a year 800 dollar s 4 years
I guess by today low standard for appliances that's not bad!!
I believe you're onto something with the corrosion finding. I've just got rid of a second LG French Door refrigerator in 5 years. After the first one stopped getting cool, after 2.5 years, I replaced it, because I felt strongly that a repair shop would say, "Oh, you need a compressor", and that might not fix it. I thought to myself, "I like the LG. What are the chances that a second one would show the same unreliability". Well, I should have brushed up on my Murphy's Law. The second one, exactly the same. Started not cooling, or cooling anemically, getting down to only 44 degrees F in the fridge. The compressor still working, I cleaned the condenser cooling fins etc. Nope. The discharge tube just wasn't getting really warm. I think it should've been warmer getting to the condenser coils. I believe you are right....there is (likely) a refrigerant leak, at higher pressures, enough to slow the cooling performance. I think it can happen with all LG's with a similar build standard, where the tubing separator foam attacks and corrodes the internal steel lines. I bought a Whirlpool hoping it's not OEM'd by LG.
That is def a bummer! I think a huge failure point. Sad to think how many refs are going to the trash.
Good overview. Just want to add to the list of people who would lovea video with more detailed diagnostics.
Thanks we're hoping to make it very soon, we did not realize the extent of this problem and how broadly needed this repair would be at the time. Stay tuned and thanks for watching.
nice work. i have couple quest. 1 would be how was the compressor charged? is there a nipple somewhere? 2 would be, it seems you've directly bipassed from comp. to fan coil and left the corroded tube in place. Do you know what that original tube was supposed to do? it seems it was either return or supply and if it was cut, then the cut should've been plugged somehow. thanks.
The corroded tubing was completely bypassed, no need to plug. We will be making a more complete video very soon to cover more in depth all the steps I took to find it and fix it. I didn't realize how many people could really use this on the first vid but now realize how helpful it will be. Stay tuned and thank for watching.
I believe that I have the same issue. After weighing in a new charge, first the ice maker stops working because it has to be 10 degrees or colder in it for it to continue to make ice. That then tells me that the freezer isn’t getting as cold as it should. Then after a couple of weeks I notice that the frozen food isn’t as stiff as it should be. Then a couple of weeks later the refrigerator isn’t getting down to set point temperature. I’ll try the bypass because at this point I don’t really have anything to lose.
Sounds just like it. Also same reason I tried in the first place. I wish I knew it would work, I would have taken better video along the way. You can cut open the sheet metal and actually find it, get a visual and know for certain. Takes like 10 min.
Excellent ! I'm wondering now it that line could actually just be cut and sealed at the compressor instead of cutting the back open...
Possibly, def want to make sure you get the correct one though! Our next video on it is finishing edit now and may give you some better views of it so stay tuned.
I have the same LG Fridge, and is not cooling dawn very well, thanks for Tip.
There are other, much easier issues to check for and repair such as fans motors, temp sensors, relays, and even checking the temp on the compressor to see if it's working at all/has refrigerant (should be about 15-20 def warmer on the output line than room temp) for example so def explore those first. If you feel like you have and reached a dead end like I did then it's def worth looking at this. We're planning to make another video talking about the steps I went through in more detail to figure out what was wrong. Thanks for watching and glad it helped you.
@fourboysgarage745 My mom juat passed away, and the fridge went out just days afterward. I do not feel comfortable with doing this but my gut tells me that is what is going on with our fridge, this leak! How would I know if it is out of refrigerant though?! I don't see a single video on how to tell about the coolant. I do have a couple pf guy friends that are handy enough to help me with this alternative fix you did if that is what it turns out to be. It's been working for 11 years and all of a sudden just stopped cooling!
There are other things it can be, much cheaper and easier to fix as well. There are fan motors you should check that move the air across the coils that can suddenly quit. Look for an "LG test mode" video to see how to check the various fans. Also make sure coils on back are clean. If after looking your certain none of that is the issue, it's either the compressor or this leak.....Between those two im guessing this leak. Were working on another more detailed troubleshooting vid about this and will get it up ASAP. Thanks for watching.
Ran into this exact problem on my 2017 LMXS27626S -- same corrosion, same spot. Evacuated the system, and while under vacuum, put JB Weld two-part epoxy around the corroded tubing in a ring, hoping the thick epoxy would get wedged into the pinhole and the ring would provide some structural integrity. Its been 3-4 months since the fix and fridge has been running normally since. Crazy LG hasn't fixed this design flaw -- makes me wonder if it's intentional, probably sells more fridges.
So sad. I wanted a more permanent repair when I did bypass that line on mine but I really like your idea... especially for the DIYer. We are finishing another video with more detailed info of how ours was done, do you mind if I mention your fix option and name of course for the credit? It could be a great option to help people get their unit going even if not permanent, nothing to lose. They are without a doubt intentionally using the cheapest materials possible, and don't seemingly care it's happening. In my mind what other conclusion is there?!
Have you tried using the leak sealer? After replacing the compressor, we noticed a month or so, the cooling was gone and realized the refrigerant was low so we injected a leak sealer. Months later still running cool.
Did not try leka sealer no, when I first had the issue I simply recharged. It lasted 4 months. I recharged again, that one lasted about 2 months. The third time it wouldn't take a charge. All in about 6 months from initial problem leak was so bad it wouldn't even cool down. Thanks for the added info and for watching.
I as you have the same problem.....noticed a slow and gradual loss of cooling temperature in the fridge and freezer until one day it just did not get cold anymore. Freezer warm, fridge warm. yet everything else seems fine except the fans inside the fridge not operating (unless during test mode) no blinking lights. I figure the refrigerant has leaked out which means bad corroded lines like you experienced. I will never....ever......ever buy another LG piece of garbage again ...at the appliances. My LG fridge is going to be used as a flower pot in the back yard ....so I can point out to people that is all they are good for in the end.
Yes it was gradual for me, I was able to recharge once, and it worked ok for 6 months and then could not charge again. When in normal operation I know you would have to push or tape the door button (with doors open) for the fans to run. They will not run when unit believes doors are open. Fans can cause cooling issues, but in general if they are working that's def not the problem. There are tests that can be done to determine a little more about the compressor. We're making another more detailed video about the troubleshooting steps we did so stay tuned. Thanks for watching.
Was there any moisture on the metal panel where you cut it? Ive seen leaks and insolation issues with Electrolux refrigerators and there was moisture or staining that made it easier to diagnose.
No I did not have any, honestly even the foam was dry. Luckily with 100psi of nitrogen it made it so that we could hear it and that is how we were able to locate it. Even a Sniffer wouldn't find it. Hope this helps you, and thanks for watching.
Excellent information 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Glad it helped you, thanks for watching!
Put an interesting spin on the issue but did you place dye in the system to show freon leak? I hooked up the vacuum pump but couldn't find the leak.
I did not use any dye, was not able to find it under vacuum. Only when it was pressurized with 100psi nitrogen we were able to hear it. If you know for sure you have a leak but can't find it, may be worth just opening the sheet metal over that spot where the lines go into the case.
My LG french door fridge just stopped working a few days ago(it's going on 7 years old). It no longer cools on the fridge or freezer. I was suspecting the compressor, but now I have my doubts.
After seeing this video and hearing about this problem in beginning to think replacing any parts might be waste of money😞
Put on a line tap and vacuum down to see if you can get good vacuum. Best way to rule out the comp, if there is a leak pressurizing it will help find it. Parts and labor are not that expensive, the problem is many parts end up replaced that are not needed and jacks up the bill. I would take this ref after the repair any day over even newer junk with explosive refrigerant in them! Hope this helps, we will be posting a more complete troubleshooting vid for the ref soon.
Our LG model lsxc224860d was working fine until now. Not cooling. Linear compressor and fan working. Could you please give me any advice. Thanks.
(edited for typos!) Unfortunately these refrigerators have so many electronics and sensors there are a host of things that can be wrong. Repairs like this one specifically over others requires being both handy and motivated. Many smaller items like stats for example can be more easily checked with basic tools and skills. There is also a test cycle you can put the ref into and it helps diagnose some issues like fans as well. There is a ton of videos with specific info out there on the various issues with these, and I would suggest starting with that. Once stats, fans, and circuit boards are eliminated you may arrive at a "sealed" system issue and could likely have this problem. We are working on a full and more in depth video for this to get up ASAP so stay tuned. Until then, let us know what you find out about yours and thanks for watching.
@@fourboysgarage745 thank you and looking forward to more videos.
Can you make a video on how to bypass the line and how much freon to add afterwards. That would help a lot. Thanks for sharing!
Yes we're working on a new video about this, didn't realize at the time the magnitude of this issue. Stay tuned and thanks for watching.
@@fourboysgarage745Awsome channel sir is that video out yet of showing the bypass line?
Not yet sorry, I have been organizing much of my old notes and info so I can offer as much info as possible for the troubleshooting steps prior to this more extreme repair. We're shooting for having it out within the next 2 weeks.
Okay so few year old Samsung model.
Cleaned everything, reset it multiple times, went through the test modes the fans are working.
The door display reads the set temperatures but the freezer isnt freezing.
I believe the compressor and condenser are fine.
I checked the condenser inside the fridge it seems fine.
Just looking for other suggestions before I do this to the back of it. Lol.
The front display only reads the set point, it will never indicate actual temp, which is sad because it easily could have. That said, there are probably several thermostats in your system worth a check first, usually really cheap but can also be tested for resistance and usually read between so decide if you want new parts in hand. I'm they type that depending on how hard something is to get apart, I'd prob just put in a new part (also depending on the parts cost if course!) Let us know what you find. Thanks for watching.
My quite producing cold and everything sounds good looks good, it got very hot over a few days inside my home as weather temp jumped and that's when it stopped producing cold temps, unplugged and reset, nothing. Vacuum everything so its very clean and not that dirty to begin with. Fuse good, pump sounds fine, fan works so something is going on that I can't figure out. Crazy thing is my friend has a old fridge from the 80s and it still works to this day! Junk has to stop being made. All greed and cutting corners!
No doubt! My 25 yr old ref in the basement helped bail us out during this prob! Def check that charge, can also be a damper. So many possibilities. Is the freezer still cold as it should be?!
@@fourboysgarage745 no nothing, just running and nothing Cold.
Well I'm certainly no expert, but I did learn a bit while researching for my LG. You could have a leak and no refrigerant in the system, you could have a compressor that is no good and not actually "compressing". If you are able to access the system with a valve or by adding one and gauges may be the only way for you to know what's going on. Def a ton of good vids out there on how to check. Best of luck.
What brand of refrigerator do you recommend? I am looking at Bosch and Frigidaire. Are these any good?
I'm not an appliance professional, and honestly I don't think anything is made that well anymore. I will say I've heard over and over though, that the made in USA models use better piping and components so I would guess that helps a great deal. I can tell you what not to buy!! Watch out for the LG, Samsung, and certain Kenmore elite models that use LG components.
I think my lg has same issue , 5 factory technicians replaced everything at least twice, I'll wait until lg finally issues replacement and I'll fix it myself
Sounds like a good plan. Mine has been flawless now for a year after repairing this issue. Also have a pile of spare parts for future use if need be. I have no faith in newer units so I plan to keep this one as long as possible.
Thank you
Glad we could help!
Same scenario here regarding breaking twice . I doubt there a technician around that wants to get into this. Im thinking jb weld around that leak for a few inches . Its done surprising magic with other plumber issues that had no other solutions that wouldnt cost thousands.
Thx for the info
Did you try JB weld yet? I have been without a fridge for a month now! I am thinking this could be the issue! My sisters just tell me to go buy a used fridge but this fridge is way too dam expensive to just give up on! My mom just passed away and I am on my own in trying to repair this! I'm determined to fix it though. I hope he does a more in-depth video soon so I can get a guy to help me with a bypass if needed because this is beyond my skill level.
It's a really easy repair for a professional, if they actually want to help that is. It's def not a mfg approved repair! Does the job, mine rolling for 1.5 years after the bypass. Id be curious if the jb weld would work, will you post back and let us know if it does? Thanks for watching.
Did the jb weld work?
Have not heard back, but curious to know. I have doubts, and at the same time wouldn't be surprised. It could help a lot of people though, especially if it could be that easy.
I opened up that same spot to check mine and the foam insulation is holding water like a sopping wet sponge! That probably means there's something seriously wrong?
Not necessarily, the evaporator is directly above that and if you've had issues it may have frozen and thawed several times creating more water than normal. I do however think there is prob moisture present during normal operation and that's how the lines rust at that spot. Glad you found it, hope you can fix it up. We're editing our More detailed LG 2.0 video so stay tuned if you need more info. Thanks for watching.
Thanks
Glad it helped you, we have another video in the works on this problems with a more detailed explanation. Stay tuned and thanks for watching.
Genius!
This is why I always recommend a leak test/pressure test before any repairs
Yes it seems many do. The prob is that often they can't find the leak in any of the replaceable parts and deem the unit as trash, when in fact this failure point is accessible to a degree and there is a remedy (however unconventional it may seem).
True
Even knowing this defect, how much the fix may cost? Is it still going to be more than half of the present value of the refrigerator?
Had I known in the beginning the actual repair would be less than $200 probably. Honestly, even if it were $1000 I'd fix rather than have a new POS from any brand especially LG.
LG must be ultra cheap to put metal pipe over copper pipe, to cause corrosion.
Agree! Prob saved $7/unit and this was the outcome for maybe millions of units. Unreal.
So how did you fix the corroded line?
Once we finally found the real issue, we did a bypass. It's mentioned in the video but we're working on another video with more detail we're hoping to get out very soon, maybe in the next couple weeks so stay tuned.
I wonder if a Yor-Lock compression coupling would have done the trick to repair that? Spray with corrosion inhibitor before re-foaming.
Not sure about that so I couldn't say. I know when I was doing this I stumbled on push fit refrigeration fittings (think shark bite style) but they were not small enough for this line. I thinks it's only like 3/16" OD. That said, the warming loop is not critical and I have not even noticed a dif. Been running great since though.
To avoid all of that it was just to bypass the yoder loop line condenser line connceted to filter dyer straight away
Glad it helped you, thanks for watching!
Did the technician not pull a vacuum, then use a gauge to see if there's a pressure drop after several minutes? I'm waiting for a compressor under warranty, and the LG tech website says this is an important step to make sure there aren't any leaks.
Yes the original tech used vacuum to allegedly check for leaks, then replaced compressor and PCB board. It never got cold so he did come back and I paid to replace all the remaining components (condenser and evaporator) because I already had them on hand (new) and he couldn't find the leak. After installing those and collecting another $300 in labor it never got cold, and he quit returning calls. That's when I had to really dive in. Maybe do yourself a favor and make sure they hold vacuum for more than a few minutes.....oh yeah, go ahead and look over their shoulder while they work too.
@@fourboysgarage745 I'm guessing they didn't wait long enough to measure after pulling a vacuum. It should reach 500 microns or below. Then isolate the pump, then wait 10-15 min while analyzing levels. It should stabilize under 1000 microns.
If it's above 1000, there's typically moisture in the system. Use nitrogen to flush, and /or pull vacuum again. If it creeps up toward 2000 after 15 min, that means there's a leak.
I'm not a tech, I just dove deep into the docs in trying to learn more about my lg, and repairing them in general. Fingers crossed that mine will be fixed properly this week. Thanks for making the video. I'm going to share your info with the tech I have found.
Yeah, based on the leak I ultimately found I'm guessing that he never even got it to vacuum down, much less have held. It was so big that it took nitrogen at 100 psi to get it to make enough noise to even find. That's about when I lost faith in basically all hired help, especially appliance repair. Keep both eyes on them! Thanks for watching!
There is a fact that I want to understand about these LG refrigerators that has linear compressors in them,when these compressors goes bad,is it compulsory to replace these compressors with linear compressors or another brand will still work.
Disclaimer, I'm not an appliance pro. That said, I think it's mostly because the controller is the PCB board and will vary the voltage to the comp. if you were to hook up a traditional compressor it wouldn't work properly. Im sure someone with the knowledge and the will could likely convert it entirely to run on a standard compressor.
I had the exact same thought. We swapp out Ford engines to throw in a Chevy...it's possible
I'm sure it is, above my pay grade. Since I didn't have an issue with the comp I'm just not worried about it. With this leak fixed I'm hardly even concerned anymore. All this time without issue (knocking on wood)
Post the bypass fix. Show how exactly it was done. A guide.
Don't have footage of when I was doing it as it was an experiment and honestly I wasn't sure if it would work. Plan on doing another vid soon in more detail.
Is this the LG fridge with the inverter linear compressor? Or is it just a regular compressor?.
Yes, it was made Sept 2014. Model LFX25973ST. LG linear compressor part number is FLA075LANA.
How did you repair it?
@@fourboysgarage745 okay nice, the inverter linear compressors are better than regular fridge compressors, because it’s a variable speed compressor. It can better regulate the temperature and can hold it stable than a conventional compressor. And is very energy efficient.
We bypassed the door warming loop which is made of steel line for some reason. The 2 warming loops we're touching and one rusted through at that spot. Separated then, bypassed the leak and recharged. My specific unit called for 5.11oz of 134a so we went with just 5oz to compensate for the capacity we reduced the system by.
Yes they are also a little harder to troubleshoot apparently because they don't have consistent operating pressures or voltage/amperage since all of these vary with the compressor speed/demand.
Recently I threw an LG garbagerator out for probably the same reason.
Def understand that. I may have as well if there were options at the time!
Manufacturers love putting freezes at the bottom these days so they can use cheaper inferior compressors less tubing = more profits . Cheaper to use fans to blow cold air from freezer compartment up into fridge compartment than run coils to a top freezer compartment
I personally don't mind it, I use the ref more frequently than freezer so to me it's convenient. Less line or not, seems to me it should be of better material like copper than the cheap steel they used and compromised the entire unit.
Hope they redesign the compressor s back in the 90s ge came out with a rotary compressor would last 5 years they go completely out It didn't happen over time it would shut down right away a lot people las a lot of money and food thanks for the junk out there
That is interesting, it doesn't surprise me. Designed obsolescence has been the new manufacturing practice for everything it seems. Luckily I haven't had the issues with my compressor, my old one was about 9 years old when it was replaced but that wasn't the problem. New one rolling for about 1.5 years so far now (knock on wood). Thanks for watching and appreciate the info.
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!! You Nailed Dude. , now let me go and Fucked up the back on my Fridge,...sorry about my French!!!!!
If your worried about what the back of your ref looks like I can't help you. Repair it, don't repair it ...my food is cold again! Saved a bundle too! Thanks for watching!
I stop serving LG refrigerators. Customers always want fast and cheap solutions . With LG fridges,you can't be sure on 💯 . It makes me nervous. Possibly I have not enough experience with it.
They can be tough to troubleshoot especially compared to standard compressors but there are resistance and amperage draws that I found and can be measured to have some idea what's going on. Ultimately it's prob best to tap, evacuate, and pressure test to really know. If your hired for the job, from what I have found, you would better serve your client by being honest and upfront with what you do know and don't know. Thanks for watching
My LG lasted 10 years. Which is exactly the warranty on the unit. Not even gonna try and fix it. Most fridges are now averaging 6-8 years which is ridiculous
If it happens to be this problem (and likely is) it's inexpensive to repair. Mine has been going for two years since the repair and is still running strong. They only have short lives because so many are ok with it, and buy new ones. Exactly what they want and why they build them that way...disposable.
Can you give the tec contact information
No sorry. He only does refrigeration work on commercial equipment but agreed to make the connections for me since he was a friend and didn't have to take it apart or troubleshoot it.
So all ya gotta do is change everything. Got it. Life’s Garbage.
Ha! Not exactly! We changed everything chasing a leak we couldn't find. After it was all new, we finally found the leak. In our case, didnt really need any new parts. Made this video hoping to save others that wasted hassle and expense. Thanks for watching.
Boy, you couldn't figure out what was wrong so you took the customer for a bundle replacing everything.
Yeah, seems like a lot of people getting taken out there, and I was def one. After paying for all new parts to be installed the joker wouldn't even answer the phone when it didn't work. Had to figure it out myself. Wonder why people in the business can't figure it out? Glad I had a friend with a torch. Once I found the leak and we repaired it I realized all my old parts are still good, you need any?!
My 5 1/2 year old LG is being replaced tomorrow with a GE. Not going to spend the time and money to diagnose and repair this thing.
Be sure to check, the GE could have these same LG components as some other brands have also been using them.
If you see LG not cooling, replace the compressor
Unfortunately that doesn't always seem to be the case, and so many techs seem to be wrong about it. Lot of people being taken it's sad. Thanks for watching.
My 5 year old LG DIED yesterday 3 months out of warranty figure’s called the company to get someone to fix it they are charging me $500.00 to come fix it even with the class action suit. What a piece of 💩 never buying a LG after this.
Be sure to double check, the compressor and other parts specifically have a 10 year warranty as of when I bought mine. Maybe contact LG, they don't make it easy, but if you can be patient and persistent they may get it fixed if your still under warranty. Also expect that the "fix" might not fix it if you have this problem with the lines.
Even with the 10 year warranty on the compressor you'll still be charged $600 - $700 for labor. Better to put that money in a better brand. @@fourboysgarage745
I believe the 5 yr included labor, and being so close you may be able to squeeze them. It's certainly worth a try but of course decide whats best for you. When I had to figure this out there were no refs in stock anywhere from covid anyway so I didn't really have an option.
It’s working fine now 6 months later yeah the new compressor was “ FREE “ 😂😂😂😂
Glad to hear you got your problem worked out! They make it painful, hoping you don't wait, and many don't.
Sounds like a future fire…
2 years now running great. Not sure what would even have the potential for fire, but thanks for watching!
Hmmmm......if affected many models just throw it in the trash and buy another that is problem free.....
Many do I'm sure! My issue is I think they are all junk and riddled with problems so I'll stick with the one I know. That and new style refrigerant is explosive so I'll pass on that!
What fridge do you suggest? Thanks
I'm not an expert but I have asked many appliance repair people and appliance delivery people. They say the more basic the better. Lesser "features" equals less problems. That and the American made refrigerators are better. Has to be true, my 25 yr old Frigidaire int the basement bailed me out while my LG was down.!
Oh wow,,,you found it LoL!! if you would like to do any good ,,,call LG and report to them,,,I wonder they should have known this better than us for this issue ,,,mehhh
How could it be justified not to use copper but steel material there to start the problem....I guess this would be a mysterious problem for any other LG (if not having compressor issue) and no one knows why the LG frig didn't get cold (well unless they test the pressure lines!)
I think they would be aware of it, I just don't think they care. Admission of a problem like that would prob mean recall.
LG is infamous for their junk Linear compressors. This type of compressors have been around since 1913 and they have always had the same two issues. First is the electromagnetic solenoid will burn out. The second issue is a cheap/flimsy seal that gets a tiny tear in it causing the compression stroke to fail. On paper linear compressor are a great idea. In the real world not so much. Every 25 to 30 years some one tries to resurrect linear compressors and then gives up on them when reality rears its ugly head yet again.
In short avoid linear compressors. Stick with a scroll compressor in appliances and your AC unit.
Thanks for the info, do you know any brands of appliance not using the linear style? I will say, that in the 8 years of use before my LG comp was replaced (unnecessarily) it was still running. I just had an appliance tech who clearly wasn't aware of this real problem as many were not it seems. That said, the 25 yr old Kenmore that bailed me out during the LG mess is still rolling without issue!
@@fourboysgarage745 I did some digging and found out my info was way out of date. Its looking like scroll/screw compressors have been regulated to AC units at this late date. Essentially you have two choices for a refrigerator compressor. The linear, which we all know is a bad idea. The better option is what is called a Reciprocating compressor. Finding out which brands use what type of compressor seems to be a big secret since I have little to no info on this.
Great job. Stay away from LG
I agree. One thing to have a problem but how they dealt with it could have made all the diff. They just left customers like us out to dry without acknowledging this issue, which should prob be a major recall. Aside from ripping us off, think of all the refrigerant from millions of refs going into the atmosphere?!
I may imagine such leak may pretty well kill the compressor in no time, the vibrating resonant mechanism is very sensitive to the loss of pressure (the piston swing increases until it starts crashing into the end stop, destroying it in a short time). So your first compressor may have been really dead when the technician was addressing the "no cooling" issue the first time. The upgraded version may have better working displacement control (so better prevents the crashing once fill pressure is lost) or you just didn't let it operate that long in that condition, so it still survived.
But it is shame what such stupid fault may cause with this new system.
And it would also confirm one already very old observation: Refrigeration compressors practically never die on their own, almost all the time it is some other defect/fault in the system that kills them. The new thing is, these resonant compressors get killed very quickly by "just a stupid" loss of charge (even partial; classic rotary motor compressors "need" the loss to be so severe so it loses aso the oil)...
My old compressor I had recharged myself 3 times before the leak got too bad. First time it worked for 6 more months just fine, 2nd time for 4 months. Last time it wouldnt take charge at all. All parts replaced by "professional" and it never cooled down. I called him after 3 hrs when temp didn't drop even 1 degree (when I had recharged it would begin cooling immediately). He said let it run for 24 hrs (with no refrigerant we now know) so I did. When he wouldn't answer calls next day I knew I had to fix myself. Dug into researching the workings of a ref and located this issue. Comp has been running fine for like 1.5 years now so it didn't seem to even phase the comp.
Are you a technician?
No just DIYer committed to fixing mine during Rona when there were no refs available so I researched and dug in with nothing to lose.
@@fourboysgarage745 well someone coach you cuz I’ve been a appliance technician for 35 years +. Normally we don’t do these kinda repairs in the field reasons for it takes time way to much time to do what you did. Especially when we are running 8 or more service calls a day. As you can see that rust happens in most refrigerators because of the moisture that builds inside the walls. Besides manufacturing companies don’t recommend those repairs. They want us to install an electrical Yoder loop wire. To complicated to explain it. Cutting and bypassing the Yoder loop not recommended as it will lead to more problems. LG does have a 100 percent compressor failure rate. In your case it was a leak in the wall even tho the original compressor maybe good I’ll still recommend replacing it. Condensable will enter the system and cause compressor failure. Don’t think oh I may have a leak first. There’s way to find a leak. When replacing a compressor removed the compressor and liquid drier. Add the new compressor and liquid drier with a UV dye. If it’s a no cool call back less than 8-48 hours yes it will be a leak. Anyway great job.
A repair is a repair. Whats mostly happening on these LG is parts are being sold that don't even need replaced. People are bei g told their unit is trash because there is a "leak in the cabinet that can't be accessed" and it's not all true. This is a clear failure point. In my research I've seen the electrical warming loop repair option but it was only offered by the mfg as a warranty repair kit for their units. To my knowledge LG does not offer this or even acknowledge this problem. This was not intended to be a mfg approved repair. This is more for the determined DIYer or any LG owner to at least know what the problem could be, and look for it specifically. Especially if they are hiring it out. My ref since this repair has been operating great, who knows if there would have been a comp failure by now but I'm easily going on 1.5 years since repair. I also like that this unit is r134a which is available to me for future needs vs new units using the newer (explosive) refrigerants. Appreciate the input and thanks for watching.
@@fourboysgarage745 welcome. R600a is the future. R134a is no longer in production. It’s going be no longer available when it’s all gone. We still have plenty of years before that happens. Good luck with your refrigerator.
LG engineering needs betterment lots of complaints
Agreed, also need to use better quality parts.
Our LG is a pos! Worst company for customer service, repair men won't come to work on LG! Two friends had a two year old one, one was 5 years old. Our compressor went bad within 2 years! JUNK JUNK JUNK
Def are not helping themselves much with the service issues. They gave us all the parts to replace the sealed system under their 10 yr parts warranty, but they didn't make it easy. We had to wait for their "warranty" company that wanted to diagnose anything but a sealed system problem and were wrong on everything. Unfortunately many of the techs, (especially for larger companies) are prob not aware this problem exists because they are directed to just replace parts.... its easy and doesn't require much training or knowledge. Your best bet is try to find a small business owner that will take a look, and make sure to test with pressure (nitrogen in many cases), not vacuum. We will be adding another video soon (ish) with more info on troubleshooting the symptoms, parts replacements, and failures that ultimately brought me to this diagnosis.
same thing happened to us. piece of garbage
Throw in the trash to much talk😅
After the repair mine is going on 1.5 years now with no issues. Thanks for watching.
Why? Just why to show a simple thing you needed to shoot the almost whole documentary?
More info helps people who need more info. For those that don't need as much, there is a fast forward button. Next LG documentary coming soon! Thanks for watching!!
to much talk no repair
Yep we decided to make the video after the fact, wasn't sure if it would even work as it was experimental! Just trying to share the real problem so others can know where to look and maybe fix theirs! Thanks for watching!
What was wrong with the fridge ? Didn’t wanna watch the “too much talk “ not enough action vid lol
Video covers both the problem and the remedy, just shows the repair after the fact because I didn't even know if it would work. Going to make another video with more info on diagnosing this issue vs other problems soon.
@@fourboysgarage745good video everyones fridge is different...but nice job figured it out!
@@fourboysgarage745Still not answering the question my friend! Lol!
What…was…the…problem?
My lg fridge has been nothing but problems. I'll never buy another lg product.
They have def turned a ton of consumers against not just their refs, but all their products on principle. Not good business. What all has happened to yours?
Talk talk talk talk. It isnf working i know how.. I know how i gotta go..
Glad it helped you, thanks for watching!
I will never buy LG again except for TVs
Does the GE Ref also use the LG parts?
@@fourboysgarage745 maybe but not the linear compressor... it uses the tried and true reciprocating compressor
I'm not completely clear on the working of the various types of compressors, but they don't make anything like they used to. I think what is an all new low is cheating out on the lines and basically totaling refrigerators with steel lines where they should have used copper. Thanks for the info on that.
@@SRX2004 oops
You said we! No he did it. But you said nothing
Correct, my friend brazed the new connection/patch piece. All I did was figure out the actual problem nobody else could and make a video about it. Glad it helped you!
Terrible “how to” video.
Glad it helped you, thanks for watching!
Made in CHINA 🇨🇳
LG is actually out of South Korea I believe but some of the components are from there yes. Many of the known failure points certainly are. Although I'd be the last to defend poor craftsmanship, the problem with these is actually a terrible decision to use a steel material that corrodes vs copper. Especially in the area not accessible to repair.
U talk a lot bro.
Yeah hope you found it helpful, thanks for watching!
Yes....he does! But, he has and is a major help. Less than a 15-minute video to highlight a problem and possible fix for probably thousands of us researching our fridge issue. Thank you Sir
Appreciate the kind words and hope it helps you and many others not send them to the curb!
Post the bypass fix, show exactly how it was done.
Give yall an inch and you want a mile.....he gave you the issue now figure out how to fix it yourself lol@@keirrichard1647
So basically its a junkie refrigerator. Should have bought a Whirlpool. !!!!
My guess is they are all junk by now, not sure if any brand is safe. I know these same LG components are in some Kenmore elite units, and I'm sure some others.