Chlöe Swarbrick and Brooke van Velden agree on 'fragile' nation | TVNZ Breakfast
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- The pair discussed PM Christopher Luxon's State of the Nation speech, agreeing with Luxon's assertion "the state of the nation is fragile". Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick and ACT deputy leader Brooke van Velden both said division was key to that perceived fragility.
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Gender education in schools is hardly a priority when maths, reading and writing competency is at such an all time low.
We've been educating children the wrong usless topics then importing people to take the skilled jobs business needs to fill.
That's then, in turn, put pressure on infrastructure and housing, creating a generation who can not buy a home and start a family.
They are all important issues and are not mutually exclusive. We can solve both without cancelling the other out.
Are you a teacher?
No ones removing those from the curriculum. It'd be easy to simply add it to social studies mate we dont need to learn about the oregon trail and about the american pilgrims in such detail because it has little to do with our Nations people however we do have New Zealand citizens apart of the lgbtq who happen to live in a world that still ostracizes and persecutes them
It is for kids who get bullied and skip school because of it. Besides not everyone could be or even should be good in math other more creative subject no less important.
When the comments section is left on, the real perspectives are on show - not the ones the media are trying to lead us to believe.
Typical TVNZ bias.
Chloe is like Jacinda - she has a certain type of charisma. However, I could not get past about three sentences of her ‘diagnosis’. She was part of the government that ran our country for six years, and IMHO it is in the worst state I have seen it for decades.
2:53 Bad take from Daniel about reading the room. The poll directly following Waitangi day showed Act party up 5% and Greens down nearly 5%. Surely, if anything that shows the New Zealand are at least willing to hear them out
I thought interviewing was supposed to be neutral?? He digs straight into Brooke about “Reading the room”… why do you think most Kiwis voted Labour and Greens out?? Co-governance was one of the main reasons.
Well said
Read the room? MsM could not read the room if it was in capitals.
Labour read to the room like the room is full of preschoolers and they know much better
Brook should have 1) told him to rephrase his question because the bias in it was out of line and 2) asked him if he read the election results.
Chloe: Tax the rich more.
NextMinute
Chloe: let's get rid of the rich.
@@MildredtheDestroyer what your referring to is communisum. And that ain't gonna fly. You wanna know why....
Chloe is a legend in her own imagination
Chloe is totally unhinged. I'm lost for words...
Hinges are quite limiting, and when you can't find the words it probably means you should be listening rather than speaking.
So is Brooke van Velden.
What room is he reading? probably his small closed off room sticking to a little bubble of people who all agree only with his own views
Everytime Chloe is on TV i'm just so glad the voting public has kept her and her party at a safe distance from any kind of power.
Weird ....Greens have more support than both the minor parties in government now going by the lastest polls...not the one cooked up by tpu and atlas
77% of Kiwis believe we became more divided under Labour. Only 3% less divided/more united. SOURCE: Essential Poll, September.
Wow,who did they pole ? Remurera 😲
@@gavinsutton7724I dont like the result of that poll, i reject it. Nice work
Totaly true. Ardern was the most decisive and destructive labour leader of all time. And she wonders wgy people absolutely hate her
@@timtan2023hiyffg it was a legitimate question for which there was no answer Clearly....also bs because Jacinda was voted in by a minority never seen in nz history so clearly not ture.....
77 percent my ass if there were that many people who believed that then there wouldnt of been risk of a re-election and a coalition. the last government got 50% of the entire countries vote. If it wasnt for the pandemic screwing the economy they likely would of got in again easily
It’s ironic that most of the social and economic measures that Chloe complains about got worse under 6 years of the last Labour and Greens government. Yet she wants more of the same policies and expects a different result?
not six years mate 3 years the first three years of labour had great economic outcomes its how she got 50% of the nations vote for the second term as for the second term it started the same year covid did
but keep parating the same old right wing cliche propaganda bro and the sheeple will follow
@@MatuaKiwi The last government went backwards in their first term on affordable housing, child poverty, and fresh water quality (the policies I voted for). I thought maybe they needed more time, and their initial response to COVID was good, so I voted for them again. However, it became apparent during the 2nd term they couldn’t effectively deliver policies and were reckless spenders of taxpayer money. Plus they didn’t know when to let up on COVID restrictions with serious social and economic consequences for Auckland especially. That’s why I didn’t vote for them in the most recent election. Listening to Chloe it’s very apparent that she is still idealistic and not pragmatic.
Covid 19 mate. It affected the whole world. Not just NZ.
@@craybro the last government had to deal with a pandemic so yes there were going to be halts
God Chloe loves to just absolutely waffle.
Is her vocabulary beyond your understanding? for e.g Wealth Gap?
@matakitaki1 no one said they couldn't understand her.....just said she waffles. Kind of like an egotistical brat whose losing an argument.
Chloe is NOT God. If you have a point to make it is never improved by abusing the name of God. It actuallu reduces your credibility. Just a word of advice.
Sure is a waffeler no substance to any of her arguments is her usual ploy.
She's absolutely brilliant! Sad you see it as "waffle"
"Te Tiriti" is the latest buzzword that Woke Politicians and State media throw around whenever they want to make an excuse for the current state we are in as a nation.
What Methylphenidate is Chloe on she is a word Salad Queen
Totally agreed. Everything Chloe says is either nonsense or easily debunked.
Probably eats a lot of salads too lol
Times will get tough soon enough for all who can’t see and hear the truth. Me me me me me me me life is but a nightmare….
Oh Chloe you need a refund on your education and logic , amazing still how you fill air time saying nothing but labels meanwhile Brooke uses every word to say something ,
Chloe is totally nuts
So is Brooke.
Nonesense politics. Same old rhetoric.
Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome
“Equality feels like oppression” 👌
What planet is she on?
At least Chloe knows how to make word salad. Yummy! 🤣🤣🤣
@@neil3488 its unfortunate people who vote cant articulate or understand those who can
@@MatuaKiwi Oh the irony of a rant about being articulate, when that rant is inarticulate. 😂😂😂
@@neil3488 no it simply went over your head
I will be willing to pay more tax if the govt can use my tax paying $ wisely.
Unfortunately, Labour has disappointed and shown too often that they simply are just not great at managing $$$ and I often wonder whether they simply do not care any way.
It is 38 years of this country addiction to 'for profit at less cost' neolliberal economics and governance by successive governments has made this country fragile.
“To People with privilege equality feels like oppression”
Equality is a word that has no meaning when concerning humans, the same with Equity, the statement from Chloe was just a sound bite, like most of her statements, that has no reality.
When you are used to hand-outs, self responsibility and equal rules for all demographics feels like oppression.
@@geoffneal9146 True, we should to get tough on the landlords who feel entitled to a majority of someone else's income for scalping more houses than they need like they're PS5s being scalped on eBay, not give them a handout in the form of a $250 a fortnight tax cut
@@geoffneal9146 and that is precisely why act want to enforce their treaty principles Bill. Now that Maori have a better understanding and footing in our society, we understand that we should have benefitted more from the treaty than the British subjects (colonial settlers and their descendants were the responsibility of the crown solely) and it couldn't be used to cause further detriment to Maori for the benefit of pakeha (no other race in nz benefitted from this more than pakeha, like it or not it's a fact. It's unchangeable, however unfair it may be) that's when pakeha started screaming to the hills and back that the treaty was racist, the system was racist, Maori were racist, everything but they themselves and their forebearers were racist- but never spoke up when the system worked for them, v interesting indeed. Only when they thought it was working in Maoris favour and not theirs, will they speak up. And they won't be a lonewolf either, they have to have safety in numbers to feel emboldened.
There are no equal rules for all, it’s impossible to have equality, everyone is entitled to benefits if they are in need, if you have never received any benefit from the state then your a lucky man.@@geoffneal9146
I always forget the worst kind of people are in the comment section
Ironic - Lowering the tone of the comment section, while complaining that others lower tone of the comment section. Why not say something positive! 😁
@@neil3488 I have did you miss it ? It was ...go Chloe ❤️
That chloe just spouts total untruths to divide the country.
hahahahahahahahahhaa what statement, hilarious.
The Two Biggest solutions to everyones problems in NZ is #1 Take personal responsibility for their lives and their situation. The shackles holding you back are imaginary and in your head. #2 Turn off the internet and go and interact with your community. You will be very surprised that people in NZ are very accepting of other respectful and give it a go people.
Maybe we should destroy the Internet ?
Not everyone has the same support systems or the same wealth ..this belief that we are all born equal is fundamentaly not true......you are the example Chloe is talking about when she saids when equality feels like oppression ......
100% correct.
Great comment Scottkeen3712.
Off you go then. Get off the internet. We might as well just be imaginary and in your head anyway.
For some people, though, the internet is the only thing that has allowed them to find their communities.
For myself, I will take full responsibility for my own actions and choices, while also expressing great fury when the actions and choices of others further injustice. Any shackles holding me back will only increase my determination. I may be oppressed, but I will not be broken.
Division is caused by inequality.....
What- the division between us and the mega rich? Or the division between the "I do alright's" and the "don't even have a pot to....?
Do you know which one you're going for?...
Read the room yes not one news .
Chloe's like a toddler whose drink was laced with speed. Push play: endless spiel with repetitive phrases like let's unpack this, at least she left out reductive. Word salad.
Got twice the airtime that Brook was given, and said half as much, most of which was far left rant. Well done TVNZ, keeping your balance where you like it!
Well to be fair Brook talks much much slower.
She is also confused or a hypocrite. One minute she saying Maori have been rip off by colonist and promoting mass immigration. That will help Maori?
She did unpack alot- it obviously flew straight in one ear, and out the other. You can find her verbose, but the only thing that matters is the truth contained therein, she's clever that's how she rolls, but she seems like a good sort- maybe ask her to dumb it down a tad?...
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I don't think you're willing to accept what she said there about readdressing the treaty- the natural progression of that would be better outcomes for Maori.
Don't forget you equality warriors opened this can of worms.
@@myresponsesarelimited7895😂😂😂
who you gonna tax if you get rid of the wealthy Chloe?
yes you`re right Brooke!!!
Are you sure?. Brooke van Velden about theoretical 'for profit ant less cost' neoliberal libertarian waffle.
okay but why did he interupt brooke at the start, im a green voter but he should be fair
Politicians are the real problem
Citizens matter as well. I don't take sides. Kiwis has a very entrenched social mindset and social tap has been turned on for far too long. It breeds a group of entitlement ppl who thinks the whole world own them a living.
Chloe really doesnt seem to grasp that it is business and commercial activity which provides jobs for people who then pay taxes to fund health/education etc. She really comes across as someone who thibks money magically grows on trees for govt to spend. She needs to spend some time in a job where if the custowmrs dont come and the bills dont gwt paid, then the lights gets turned off and everyone sent home. Its infuriating her supreme lack of maturity and real world experience.
Chloe grasps a hell of a lot more than you do, I'm quite sure.
Employers do not "provide jobs" as though they're performing some kind of charitable function for the good of society. They exploit the labour of workers, because they're allowed to buy it for far less than it's truly worth, and keep all the excess for themselves. That's an absolutely shameful way for an economy to function. Perhaps you're too stuck in what you perceive of your "real world experience" to even begin to imagine the superior alternatives.
Chloe Chloe Chloe , just speak simply instead of word salad
What parts couldn't you understand?
@@Moamanly well her constituents are very simple not so bright people so I imagine they have no idea what she is saying , I feel sympathetic for them
she left you behind eh, you couldn't keep up, we understand
It was all quite simple, really.
We are on the same track as the UK were on 13 years ago, and austerity measures have not worked for them after 13 years of a right wing government. Their version of National look to be completely wiped out in the next election. National/ACT/NZ First rely on a very misinformed public here in NZ.
Welcome to National conservatism
Chloe is one of the worst people for spreading misinformation and creating division. Treating everyone equally will reduce the division. Chloe should read some Thomas Sowell, perhaps learn a bit about history and where her crazy ideas will lead us.
What misinformation mate?...
Thomas Sowell is a true gem
wow, another all lives matter person who just can't grasp it eh
you dont get there under the useless greens and labour.
It’s unbelievable how 1 news commentates. Exceptionally poor journalism that’s full of negative innuendos. Must say, I’m so pleased they’re feeling so much pain having to front up to politicians with real business experience.
Have you seen the teachers trying to teach?? while trying to teach kids English and mean while confused with other languages. Also not knowing how to tell the time on a REAL CLoCk !! Its a crazy site
Chloe: More tax is the answer of everything - what’s your question? 😂
What? How was that your takeaway from what she said?
Sometimes more tax is the answer, how else do you expect to fix our underfunded healthcare system for example?
@@RJH755 spending more efficiently is a good way to do so, but sometimes there’s not much you can cut
The only answer the left has for any problem is tax, especially other people paying the tax. Prime example, climate change will be fixed with more tax.
The interviewer asked if the coalition is reading the room correctly regarding the Treaty, I would suggest he is failing to read the room.
@@RJH755 Chloe doesn't understand the tax system. When tax rates were lowered in the 80s/90s, more tax revenue was collected from the wealthy because their incentive to hide or transfer their income was diminished. Wealthy people can easily avoid NZ tax. We are a small country with minimal international reach. Further, Labour's junk report on tax from last year calculated the tax rate as [tax paid on actual income] over [actual income plus unrealised capital gains]. Taxing unrealised capital gains is insanity. If the asset hasn't been sold, then there is no cash to pay the tax and the unrealised capital gains are fictional! Besides, valuers are never able to accurately estimate the value of a property, business, investment, etc. Chloe just has a set of talking points that plays to her base.
Chloe, you are hard to listen to. You talk a lot but say very little.
Chole is like listening to a whining Dog
That dog wouldn't be in my kennels for long 👉
God im sick of Chloe's "just to unpack that" BS
I don't think complaining to God will help.
@@stephenking4170 neither do I but still sick of the "lets un pack that"
Chloe, and you’re going to fund everything? Oh, wait a minute, we are ???
It's funny-America can go to war all over the world, yet the moment you mention medicare for all- the screaming erupts "how you gonna pay for it?" ...but is it really funny ¿...😔
ASD vs ADD ODD.
State of our leaders these days.
Oh jeez man!!!
New Zealand deserves migrants with high skills.
why didnt we get high skilled settlers to start with why did we get raist ruffians who created a government by their own accord
TVNZ going all out to promote Starbuck! 🤣
Chloe is honest about it at least she points out the ruthless funnelling of wealth from the poor to the privileged. This country is and its people are cruel to the vulnerable vilify the poor and working class.
She’s a millionaire, see the problem?
What a joke, Chloe always is.
Who are these privileged you speak of?
@@damothegreatestone remember when they were trying to say horse face bij had 300million , got a source?....
@@damothegreatestoneno I don't see the problem W a millionaire pointing out the obvious - at least she isn't silent like the lot of the millionaires that are attached to the coalition govt.
Still scratching my head as to what the hell Swarbrick is talking about ??
Were not the greens part of the lat govt...?
No. Labour governed on their own!
@@brianmitchell1624 yup they scooped up 50% of the nations votes
@@brianmitchell1624 Labour won the general election in October with an outright majority, meaning they could govern alone. But Ardern invited the Greens into a “cooperation” agreement, saying it would allow the government to benefit from the expertise of Green party members in areas such as the environment, climate change and child wellbeing.
Yes, tough, imperfect choices with tough imperfect answers, but lets dig into the weeds and really talk and analyze the nitty gritty details and let IMPROVEMENT FOR ALL the ultimate goal
There's far better, and proven methods- but none your allowed to mention in the west anyway 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@myresponsesarelimited7895 you mean like "the needs of society come before the needs of individuals"? 😆
@@CrimsonDragonX7
...the c word, actually look into it and all it's different incarnations, you'll find the bit you quote is pretty much right in the definition. son.🤷♂️
@@myresponsesarelimited7895 roflroflrofl so how do you propose we achieve that Supreme leader? Roflroflrofl
Yes I have looked into it extensively and apparently we have read very different versions, not a single case in the 10000years of recorded human history has "the c word" ever led to IMPROVEMENT FOR ALL, open to hearing differently
@@CrimsonDragonX7 hold up son- I didn't come down on the last rain cloud, but no problem- I can unpack,
(Bet you run when you realise you're mouth just wrote a cheque actual history will struggle to support.)
Ok ...Given the China raised several million people out of poverty, and is growing to outpace all competitor economies by 2030....
When does Chloe kiss Brooke?
I know who the divisive person here is. Chloe, who was quite happy to whip up a mob to beat up a bunch of women talking about their rights in Albert park last year. We started addressing Maaori inequality about 50 years ago forming the Waitangi Tribunal and we are still working on that and most Kiwis are happy with that. But talking about the Treaty principles which were devised in 1975 and enhanced in the 1980s by the Lange government is fair enough in 2024. Read the room TVNZ , most Kiwis want that to happen. FYI I am Maaori (Kahungunu) and a whole bunch of other nationalities. My Kids are Ngati Kahungunu and Ngati Wai and a whole bunch of other nationalities. I used to be a member of the Greens but I am so over the Greens and all their bollocks.
I won't defend the specific instances of violence that occured at the Posie Parker protest last year like that elderly woman who was punched, they need to be investigated, but if you're going to condemn an entire protest that thousands of people participated in because of a handful of violence incidents then you're gonna have to condemn a whole bunch of historic protests like the civil rights movement in the US for example because those wern't totally peaceful either despite the whitewashing that occurs ever MLK day
if most kiwis wanted that then Act would have had more than 8% of the nations vote read the room and statistics
not even Chris the primininster wants treaty referendum or the re writing of treaty principles he only allowed it because he needed a coalition or risk a re election
Chloe gets it so wrong every time. Much like TVNZ & the lefty narrative. Keep pushing the victimhood mentality.
Chloe go and have a puff
Pre-existing constitutional rights exist for Māori. Not sorry, its due to this and signing Te Tiriti that Pakeha have citizenship. Moving forward - these still exist.
Excuse me Chloe, my family are migrants too. But they were high skilled migrants. Well educated. Back when that was the standard to get entry to this country. Don’t condescend migrants with your low level rherotic. Riccardo has no real credibility so quoting him is of no value? What does he bring to this country of value? All he has is his activism? Also, labour opened the floodgates to address the shortage, and if you LISTENED to what Erica said, most of the checks & balances were taken out. Now it needs to be corrected. Chloe just gives soundbites. She sure does know how to fool people with limited information.
Oh no, uncover both eyes just a tad😲🥝
Rubbish, If you are skilled and educated then Chloe is not talking about you is she.
Quick to go on the defence of your self as if you think you have a RIGHT to come and be NZ citizen.
@@matakitaki1 Dont be condescending. I have nothing to be “defensive” about. No one said it’s a “right?” to get NZ citizenship? My parents qualified as skilled migrants that NZ needed. This was decades ago.. They didn’t come here to live off tax payers? They have retired overseas now. I understand my obligations? That’s why I got a tertiary education & contribute as a taxpayer. Chloe is using the unskilled migrants to score political points? Acting as if they are all victims of some kind? That’s not the case. It’s the government’s job to get the balance right?
@@MandySam13 You seem to like that word don't you yet it is you condescending yourself . That is the point Chloe is making regarding the balance and you took offence to it which is a YOU problem
@@matakitaki1lady what you doing here ? It's okay to be wrong 🙂
Your dress looks adorable on you Brook, Chloe looks like shes of to a funeral, her parties.
yep, thats the prime intelligence of an act supporter right there
Brook is 32 but dresses like a grandma. LOL
Thanks for that Chloe. Ignore the dribble on there. So much to be admired about. You're doing a wonderful job. Keep at it.
Daniel comes across as very left leaning and not impartial at all , not a journalist but an entertainer wanting to be seen as a journalist.
we do need to focus on positives to go forward successfully , not be dragged back by negatives
He Whakaputanga????
WTF is she on about???
Almost all who signed HW signed TOW, so why is it even being mentioned?
God help New Zealand if Chloe ever gets to power.
You mean God help New Zealand from this all waffle no plans coalition government being similar to what is happening in the UK.
Gender education has no priority in education, being able to do reading and writing, mathematics , Chloe says Maori are uneducated well who is at fault for this, the parents are the ones who are responsible for their children
So you admit there’s a cycle happening there? Almost like that’s what Chloe was saying about inter generational issues dated back to colonisation?
No parents are the ones who make decisions for their children,colonisation in Nz has made Nz better not worse @@jame2433
The wealthiest people have worked hard to get where they are, some on every other person who isn't rich rich yet isn't poor.
Yes and no most wealthy people are born wealthy but there are a few who become wealthy but not alot. The world we live in is very much who you know
that is so false. Max Key was handed his lifestyle by his rich dad as all rich families do. Wake up and stop trying to justify greed.
@@MatuaKiwi Depends what you define as 'wealthy and what you can do, what you're good at, how hard and consistently you work or study';
my father was born into a family that was wealthy (and still is) in the multi millions own a big business however even though his father could of given him 20 millions dollars to start his own thing he didn't and got a degree but tried becoming a musician, though talented no yielding like his multi million father.
So therefore it is worse to have been born rich and then to become poor; its a grievous tragedy of its own.
@@gregsmith2164 I am not, a wasn't commenting on one individual such as the Key family; my father was born into a rather rich family the McKendry's, still known today for the concrete business that turned into a successful operation which was sold in 2001 for mega multi millions and still operates all over the country. Based off your assumption;
Not everyone gets handed a gold or silver spoon from their rich parent; my father could of got given 20 million yet his father never gave that to him but his step children instead. Maybe you're the one who's a too woke to realise not everyone gets it handed down to them ?
@@TheShowMustGoOn36562 the world is not black and white we dont live in a world where people reap what you sow. Ill be blunt if your not born into wealth then you better be willing exploit people and resoures to get above the rest. Because your typical personis willing to work hard but only those willing to do more than work hard make it to the top. ill ask a simple question can you name one sucessful company that hasnt exploited people or resources to turn a profit or have an advantage over competition
I don't agree with Brook van Velden's view on the treaty of Waitangi! Nor do I agree with Chloe Swarbrick. Especially when she says it is benefiting the 'minority'! rather than 'all' NZers. By minority she is referring to Maori and Iwi. As a Maori NZer myself I have not benefitted a single ounce, nor have I gained any more rights than any other NZ citizen from this so called 'privileged' position? Except I can claim perhaps as a minority, that I am from this land and no one can tell me to 'go back to my own country' as so many other minorities are often told to do!
You got a marae to go back to bro ? if so thank the treaty because othwise everything would of been annexed. It was thanks to the treaty that maori were able to fight the government to get land back too
@@MatuaKiwi I have two I whakapapa to, through my Grandmothers! And it is true that through the treaty process Land was protected or land returned or compensated for thanks to the Waitangi tribunal process, and it goes back to iwi. She wants to change this, hence her comments and the position of the Act party! My argument is as an individual I have no more rights, nor was or have I ever received a cheque for being Maori, so hence why does she want to change the process??? IT is not to benefit all NZers as she claims, it is to disinherit iwi of the lands they have gained back, including our Maraes!
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@@kjr2868 if acts agenda is to allow maori to keep their lands why is it that in an interview a during the campaign period did he say and i quote "people should not be able to hold onto land simply because it was passed down by family mambers a few hundred years ago" And why did he run an anti o governance campaign
@@MatuaKiwi BRO you need to read what I just wrote, because you will see I am agreeing with your point! The real issue is ACT are trying to say our Maori rights of Iwi land are for all NZers, which is very confusing and NOT why the treaty was written in the first place. It was written to prevent exploitation and unjust land grabbing, which was going on in Africa, America, Asia and Australia! We were the only country to set up a constitution to prevent this!
@@kjr2868 yeah sorry i read that so wrong ill shut up
Robert Sapolsky and the influence of Social Hierarchy on Primate Health!
Sapolsky has a brilliant mind!
Please Chloe, please speak plain English.
I can't even see the end with Chloe - simply dreadful
It is fragile because all Labour did to counteract the lockdowns was to print $20 billion and it all turned into inflation which makes everyone's life harder. That $20 billion borrowed (through massive govt deficits in 2020-2023) should not have been so much and what was borrowed should not have been handed out and wasted.
How about $160 billion 80 borrowed 80 printed.
tell that to the people it supported
Inflation by supply issues, not demand issues.
@barneyboy2008 its actually both, that is why we are still stuck with high domestic inflation, very little was tradable inflation.
greens snowflakes
Cloë's "Maori stats" as an excuse to segregate NZers by race is appalling. How about people get help based on their individual needs, not their race.
Is there a difference? are you saying Pakeha are in poverty too?
The segregation has existed since 1840 with the exploitation of Māori which has lead to generations of poor outcomes across health, education, incarceration (to name a few) for Māori. These are facts. What the previous government was trying to address was providing additional support to these communities where needed. Unfortunately it sounds like you believe the nonsense from act by saying Chloe is "segregating nzenders by race" which is a really crazy way to frame what's going on. Helping communities that are worse off than you shouldn't make you feel threatened or that something has been taken from you. Māori don't want to take anything from you, only to be treated equally and to have their rights honourd in accordance to te tiriti, however the very dangerous messaging from act has implied that non Māori are somehow going to be worse off from this. My advise to you is to remember that the real agenda for act is to destabilize the treaty inorder to allow them more access to our natural resources, an area which māori are kaitiaki (protectors). Māori essentially act as a block for the rich capitalists to exploit our land and benefit the elite few. They will say it helps you too because of the "economy" but really, it's just a way to enable a bunch of rich guys to line their pockets.
@matakitaki1 I'm saying that segregating people into Maori or Pakeha when they need help, surves no purpose important enough to outweigh the damage it does to the country. If you need help, your individual needs should be studied.
@matakitaki1 yes 17.8% of Maori live in Poverty its about 17.4% pacific people but around 15% of NZ Europeans which purely numerically means there are more NZ Europeans
It's far to high for all of these Ethnicities all should be around 5%
@kattttty28 Are you saying segregation is justified because segregation exists for a long time? Apartheid existed under the British in South Africa, so you agree with the apologists that that justified Apartheid under the Nation government that followed independence from Britain?
"Maori stats" are illogical. People with 1 in 16 ancestors being Maori are counted as Maori. All these studies say is that identifying with Te Au Maori is not generally leading to good outcomes (except if you are powerful and connected).
Human needs are human needs, and insisting on racializing it is unnecessary and more dangerous than capitalism. Apartheid has much worse outcomes than the conspiracy theories floated about Atlas nonsense. The "dangerous messaging" here comes from the left where segregation is to form the starting point of anything and everything. Protesting Apartheid through the world but nurturing it in NZ.
11 Species of Moa says Maori are just as bad at conservation as all other humans. That's why we have DOC, MPI, etc.
To much talk and internet = lazy no action.
Kia ora Chloe
wouldn't trust a single word that comes out of swarbrick mouth (G SOROS'S BACKED ?)
Repeating what we all know and blaming the previous government will not solve the problem. It's time that the coalition government start focusing on the HOW of their rhetoric.
Please Labour divided this country. They are so pathetic to now try to blame others. Chloe’s nonsense will never solve the problem. Just a lot of rhetoric with nothing to show for it. In the real world we need to get results. Not just put out slogans.
*Chloe's nonsense will never solve ANY problem. Fixed it for you 😊
people of the community can you give me a single policy created by the last government that forced division
The availability of Covid medication. As a 64 year old, I was denied the antiviral medication when I was seriously ill. If I was Maori, I could have had it. That's one example. There's plenty more
The division in this country has been caused by this government.
Misinformation from the government as well hatred from the public towards Maori has done a lot to tear the country apart.
All we ever hear from the 3 parties are excuses!
If the people want to discuss the treaty fair enough, we should discuss it and reflect on its true meaning.
All I see is a bunch of people who are jealous of another race that is disadvantaged to them. That race never did anything except share their country with them.
After all the years of benefitting from colonization, they're hunger has not been satisfied and never will.
Now, look at them complaining that the country isn't fair and that they are disadvantaged. The audacity is beyond belief and the rest of us have to put up with the nonsense.
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️❤️❤️
I guess this proves the bias of TVNZ. A small point really, but Chloe is not in the current government yet she is asked to speak first, uninterrupted. Brooke gets a little into her explanation and is rudely interrupted . Show some respect. Beauty Brooke, and the other one. Put a sock in it Chloe.,
Cheers Chloe, nice to hear a politician look out for us foreigners welfare. 🤘 😎
Chloe should try working a little bit...
Chloe rattled on (like on auto play in her brain), the problems of the world, link it to NZ; make those their party policies, carry a huge flag and boast about them. Sadly, all these only create and generate huge mental problems for her followers, the young of today and so on. So mental issues now become a huge cross to bear for our young in society today.
Off the social media, less left wing news, off your mobile phone only for important stuff; suddenly all overpowering problems, mental issues dissolve. Dissolved, like salt in water.
Both Chloe and Brooke are obviously playing the praise / blame game and somehow think or feel that, that is politics .
It's not!
Real politics is conducted by all beings human and non-human, moment to moment. It doesn't come from an apparent individual or group of individuals. It starts with the collective and ends with the collective.
New 'political' tools are required to enable the collective to kaitiaki (serve) one another at scale now. It is no longer appropriate for a single organisation to take a top down hierarchical point of view to somehow have the rest of the collective follow their rules or regulations. That way of serving is dead or is a non-starter.
We must grow up and address this issue otherwise more unnecessary suffering will continue and we will never grow up out of our adolescence.
Jai Adi Da!
Communism?
One of the reason, why NZ is in such a state is because the 'trampoline' system is not in built in the social fabric of the society, yes safety nets are important when one loses a job but there needs to be a system for ppl to bouce back, next is the mindset of the citizens, alot of people screamed for human rights for this and that but the greatest harm to oneself and one country is the the inability to reinvent onself. We are living in a a global ecosystem where change is accelerating in speed, A poverty mindset is very detrimental. There are many jobs that have undergo alot of changes or have become absolete, ppl need to reskill and upgrade their knowledge such as learning how to harness the power of AI. Globally, ppl need to prepare for life long learning and working longer is the new normal. Depending on the social tap to be open and running forever is no longer viable due to increasing cost of living, there will be more wars, more disruptions. Ppl need to wake up to reality. I am prepared to work as long as I can and doing dollar averaging on my investment portfolio. Blaming on capitalist...will never resolve the issues. NZ need to wake up and united as a country to move forward.
how do you re skill as an older person in there 40s and 50s
@@MatuaKiwi I am 55 years old and I made mid career change at age 35 to be a nurse after being a stayed at home for 4 years. I started from the bottom as an orderly and work my way up as an Enrolled nurse and then a Registered nurse at age 40, I worked in Operating theatre for 1 and half year and an American device company head hunted me to be their clinical support specialist to be support orthopedic surgeons and nurses in the the operating theatre and flew all over the globe and then settle in Singapore in a day surgery setting, then in 2017, I retired from nursing and went into retail for 1 year and was head hunted by a Japanese firm dealing with boilers, incinerators ... for ship containers. How I stay relevant is to not rest on your laurels and think the world own me a living and till not I am still taking classes in Japanese language and other courses. As for my investment knowledge, I learn it myself and then attend classess and stay with an investing community to share our wins and lossess. Invest in oneself, when you go to South East and North East Asia, you see people of ages worked. Learn from others and reflect on oneself. When I passed on, the investment porfolio will be given to a trust so that my children will not squardered $$ away. I gave them just enough and the rest they have to do what I have taught them thru setting an example. There are ppl who will need society help but majority of us do not. Work provide us dignity so get upskill and upgrade. At the end of the day, it your life so don't waste it.
@@kitty2527 35 your near the ass end of being able to make a career change because 1 thats 4 years traning and like 5 to 10 years debt which means you'll only just be reaching a comortable place in ya 40s leaving you f all time to save for retirement beause superanuation is gone for people in their thirties today meaning you'll likely be working till you die
@@MatuaKiwi No, I do not have debts on my nursing studies, all paid off cos when I was young, I do not waste my time on unnecessary socialising and buying rubbish. I got no more housing loans and my finanical plans are on target. I want to work cos I enjoy working and if I retire from my full time job or part time job, I will be doing "Options trading' full time. Go find out what are Options trading, Australia has allow Momo and everywhere in North east Asia and South East Asia, ppl are trading on their own and setting up investment portfolio while working a full time job. Like I said, in NZ, many ppl has a poverty mindset and being away from alot of countries means one do not get a full facts of the whole global world. Ppl blame capitalism and rich ppl but you know what many rich ppl are busy working and making stragetic positions for the next wave. Anyway, it time to wake up to reality. The social tap will soon be drippling. This is the world wide scenario unless you have parents that will leave you load of $$$$ to last one a life time.
A govt shouldnt be asking questions
They are the govt gives us your answers
I'm not fond of dictatorships. I'd prefer Government to empower us to solve problems in our local communities. Labour tried to centralise everything and dictate from the top, and that approach failed miserably.
Chloe: yeah there is a race that is oppressed so lets single them out and add more racism, that'll fix it!"
Same old national, take from the poor and give to the rich💤💤💤🌎🥝
Do the wealthy fundegacy Media? Chloe..the new Ja.cinda
Look closely you can see Brooke’s strings
But where was Chloe's pole ??
Cant listen to Chloe 🤢🤮
I dont blame you.I feel the same.She talks activist rubbish that wouldnt work in the real world.
Robert Sapolsky and the influence of Social Hierarchy on Primate Health. LOL!
Shows how much you all listened- people have a nasty habit these day's of writing off others opinions before they even heard them, democracy is joke, but she's the sharpest tac in that lot, and she preaching ethics established in Athens a very long time ago and, if you didn't listen for the wisdom- 1dont be upset, and 2 that doesn't mean it wasn't there🤷♂️...js
@@myresponsesarelimited7895 hey I wouldn't want to listen to anything Chloe or Davidson has to say. How could you respect a person who run blocker so someone could steel?? 😬
@@Hog-iv7tj Learn to spell and while you are at it-provide some evidence for that allegation.
The nation? Heres a whakatauki for ya. The smallest dog has the loudest bark.
brace of pinko's... commies at heart
Unskilled Immigration isnt the only problem.
It's all Immigration that is the productivity problem.
How does importing skilled workers help the career developmemt of kiwis already here.
Businesses need to invest in their people and increase productivity.
Not continue this rapid pased disposable process of hiring and firing even of they are good people.
Ask any office worker, and they will tell you they've experienced a manager leave a position just for it to be given to a fresh english immigrant, even when there is a good range of candidates to move up into that position.
Brooke sounds like she is out of her depth…she had to respond by listing her own policies / commitments, couldn’t even formulate a response to Chloe’s what constitutes as “hard choices”
Good lord Swarbrick didn't use the word 'redacted' in her diatribe today, however still full of it as per usual. She needs to cut back on the coke and chocs.
Go the make up chloe good work
Greens definitely have my vote next time round.
Serious question: Why?
You tell em Chloe 👏
Chloe is the most vacuous politician of our time (except perhaps Jacinda Ardern). Everything Chloe said is easily debunked.
@@neil3488 go on then- let's see you do it- ....
@@myresponsesarelimited7895 Happy to do so! But only if you specify the statements to be debunked and the sources of evidence that you won't question. Or if you do question evidence presented, you must cite opposing evidence. If this isn't acceptable, I won't waste my time replying further.
@@neil3488 I'm going by your statement neil- everything- and just speak your truth- it's not up to me to be accepting or not, truth is truth wether we like it or not🤷♂️
Truth always makes sense, and if I'm not convinced- then I'll seek information, and corroborate or bebunk the issue with research.
@@myresponsesarelimited7895 Debate is pointless without rules to decide whose evidence is more compelling.