Again a very instructive video. I have lost 4 (very experienced) close friends over the last 10 years due to flying helicopters into hillsides in bad visibility, 2 of them were fully IFR rated, it nearly happened to me years ago but was fortunate to be going slow enough to land in a quarry on the side of the hill and leave the helicopter there and later rescued by my wife, it took 3 days for fog to disappear to collect helicopter. I am now 62 years old, been in the industry all my life and the crashes into hills and wires will never cease.
Mark Newman .. You are correct Sir and RIP to your friends. IMC conditions are scary as hell whether you’re IFR rated or not.. 🤔 Only a select few IFR rated pilots (probably one in 500 or even less) are experienced enough to truly fly comfortably in zero visibility with steep terrain fluctuations in and around high hills and mountains..
The news has actually been very informative. The press address the possible causes, (the theory to be proven or disproved) with good explanations that clarifies the picture to the public. Its not why Helicopters crash but primarily the human factors of pilot error.
A pilot has to have the courage to save his and his passengers lives. Fatal accidents, usually, are a chain of events that can have its initial decision taken as early as the day or days before. Decision making is a chain of choices and the outcome is as strong as the weakest decision.
Well said. The bad decision was not your final "wrong turn" in the clouds. The bad decision was to get close to heavy, or heavier, clouds. Or, the bad decision was to fly that day. Kobe's helicopter was very close to the landing destination. This did not help matters. This was a short flight. The heavier cloud cover showed up at the very end of the flight.
Thank you for your genuine and tasteful explanation as to this situation. This has affected millions of people and you honored the crash victims with a detailed explanation of possible causes without faulting the pilot out right. I'm sure the pilot had his hands full and the stress must have been unimaginable. RIP All !
In the fire/ems service we have a saying... "When in doubt, DON'T" ... Saying applies to all you could say. With aircraft taking off is optional, landing is mandatory. Very nice vid Sir thank you!
Was hoping you would talk about this event. I've heard a few pilots discuss recently but yours really stands out much like your other great content. Thanks and happy safe flying.
I live near the Kobe accident site. They were following the 101 freeway which rises to go through a low point in the mountains. Higher ground on both sides of the road. As they progressed the road was steadily going up fairly slowly but at the speed of the aircraft it would happen fast. Thousand Oaks is definitely in the clouds often while Los Angeles is possible to Scud run. Continuing along the 101 leads you over a much taller mountain right at the city of Thousand Oaks so you are in the foothills right at the bast of a mountain and at a much higher ground altitude. A very foolish attempt driven by “get there itis” and the pressure to accommodate the high end customer. Rodney Pilot for 40 years
Bestever2408 It’s not direct pressure from the client. Pilot wants to do what is needed for the customer while thinking it will be ok. Also believing he will just see how it is and he can always turn back. Scud running is always thinking I will joust turn back, but people die all the time trying to turn back when it’s too late to do that. Face the reality that this was a pilot trying to do a good job for his client and waited too long to turn back. 2 miles earlier and he could have made that same turn without hitting anything. He was flying into a canyon and he knew it.
These external factors seem so dumb after a crash, yet so pressing when in the situation. Once I took some friends flying and told them we would checkout a special place 45 minutes away. 35kts head wind decided it would be way longer and fuel was low. Low for my minimums(always land with 1 hour of fuel). I felt kind of stupid having to turn around and tell them even though we could physically do it we wouldn't because of my minimums. And I really pondered breaching my minimums :o Turns out people are smart and they just trusted me. They were just happy to see the world from above and the external factor was me imagining their reaction. We had a blast :) Just say no to external forces and set/keep your minimums :D
I don't care how many hours you have flying a helicopter, a plane, or even driving a car, because the fact is people will make mistakes. Most air disasters, or auto accidents are not mechanical. The problem lies between two ears. Poor decision making! Why did he choose to fly SVFR in a hilly area without TAWS? Crazy!!!
According to Kurt Deetz, Kobe's former pilot, He stated that Ara was certified to fly IFR but the company he worked for only flew VFR. Who knows what it will come down too
The pilot was flying very low, under the clouds, trying to follow Hwy 101 and at some point, as he entered the rising canyon terrain, the fog closed around him. He realized he was in the white room with looming terrain all around and had to start making plans to get out (rapid ascent, with little forward speed, which can be very disorienting). At that point, he would have had a lot on his plate. Which way can I turn? Where were the mountains? Where can I get out of here? Can I land anywhere? Etc... Now, throw in a transition from looking outside to nothing but instruments (he was IFR rated, instructor in fact, though I am not sure how current), because there is nothing at all but white, out the windows. Crap, was I turning? Climbing? Which heading am I looking for? How fast do I need to climb? Now, add in that there's kids and a VIP in the back. Don't let them know you're worried. Oh no, we're rolling... Get There Syndrome is preventable, especially with the landing options a helicopter has, but all too common. Needless tragedy.
There is a video on you tube of another helicopter crash that if you see it you would agree with me and say that's exactly what happened to kobe's..it was filmed from inside the helicopter and it shows terrible PDM flying into IMC with no visibility and total Spatial-D..helicopter rolled to one side and down like a rock it went..killing 4..including newlyweds in their way to reception.very sad.. Search for" Brazil helicopter wedding crash kills 4"
@@carloscortes5570 I've seen that one and I do believe that would have been very much the way it happened. My understanding though, is that it is the Bride and her brother, on the way to the ceremony. A few differences: -That is a Robinson R44, which is not rated for IFR operation. So, that piloto had no business at all flying into that fog. Kobe's pilot was instrument qualified and the helicopter was also capable. Unfortunately, sudden inadvertent IMC is still nothing to mess around with, as demonstrated in Kobe's crash. -There appears to be much less energy in the Brazilian crash. It was still fatal, but it seemed like more of a "car crash" level of impact energy, than a 'smoking crater' (if that makes sense).
@@CineSoar the charter company only flies vfr flights, so it doesn't really matter how equipped the craft was. They are only allowed to fly in vfr conditions.......which is what the conditions were at the airport they took off from, but they obviously were a lot worse further north.
I totally admire and respect this flight instructor!! He was asked by many followers to talk about kobes tragic and sad accident.This man is a well known respected admired CFI.one of the best,extremely knowledgeable and his comment about the accident was all about how sad it was.condolences and prayers to everybody's family involved.then basic facts about why helicopters crash..did not jump into any conclusion or assumptions..on the other side you got all these other channels with people that are not truly qualified, they are not even pilots and probably just flight simulator gamers making all kind of stories and analyzing why,where,and how not truly knowing what they talking about.thank you for another great video!
I always enjoy your exceptional videos as a aviation enthusiast. I am no longer a pilot because of age and lack of a FAA medical. However, it doesn't slow my love of flying I just now enjoy it surreptitiously through others. It is not a criticism because as I said your videos are exceptional but try to ditch the term "OK". I do it at times myself. Keep up the good work.
I lost my cousin in Toronto Ontario in a R44 in poor weather. A year and a half ago. Actually Stoufville . Buttonville airport was not aware of the bad weather. Wrong place wrong time. RIP Jim. Clear Skies
Thanks. Ara had flown this route many times - just not on a foggy day. He took an early left turn because he mistook the area probably for the intersection in Camarillo. Realizing his mistake, Ara tried to turn around. We have lost so many celebrities because the pilot tried to fly visual. I say the technology is there for a reason - use it. Don't be a hotdog. He never got a weather report for the Valley. Would it have made a difference? Hard to tell.
Brave video, Mischa. Tough time for all. Appreciate your opinion. When I was an engineer in the Merchant Marines, similar to your PDM I came up with operator error or operator errorgance. When the schools sent the apprentices to our ships I liked to stress to them not to let your ego make bad decisions. Thanks.
I'm not a pilot, I've watched many videos on plane/helicopter crashes. I would think having something like a plumb bob hanging in the cabin would help in seeing the orientation of your craft. Only needs to be 6 to 10 inches long. By its position one could see all angles, this could be of help when instruments fail too.
Hey Mischa, I totally agree with you about pilot decision making. It's critical! Most air disasters are due to pilot error, and not mechanical related. It's the same with auto accidents. People simply being knuckleheads!
This man just hit the nail on the head and said the thing that is needing to be both said and educated into the minds of pilots (of all vehicles; of all institutions: personal responsibility and possessing the courage to do the right thing in the right moment, despite all external pressures. Such a quality is leadership in the face of and despite all antagonistic forces, and it is the single rarest quality in human beings across the world.
As a retired tractor-trailer owner-operator, with 30 years experience...I was always "the Captain of my ship"...in the heat of the moment, some fault you for making the decision that is correct...later, they thank you and respect you for it.
I've been flying in helicopters for a while and when we have bad weather come at us we just land at the spot and wait our to get better, that is the advantage of helicopter
Ro Morrison Once you lose visibility, it becomes curtains for you. My dad is a pilot and he definitely thinks it’s a pilot error. Probably tried attempting to fly above the clouds but was flying low and since it was at high speed with zero visibility may have caused the pilot to disorientate and crash right into the terrain on high speed impact. Preliminary report will be announced by end of this weekend I believe.
Very respectful, this has touched the world and totally right not to speculate, but also right to emphasise the importance of decision making I have been taught if there is any doubt there is no doubt RIP and condolences at this very sad time.
In 1991, I lost four shipmates in an aircraft mishap. They were in a U.S. Navy Helicopter (H-2). Sometimes nothing goes right... Always a shame. I still love rotary flight, and love your channel. Thank you!
Thanks for posting this. The fog in LA has been very compact for the weekend. I feel weather was a cause. You've given me some hope with your video. I hope to fly one day.
The very first thing I did, when I read that Kobe Bryant was killed in a helicopter crash, was find out what kind of helicopter he was in. I just find it fascinating that a Sikorsky S76 would not be equipped with the latest terrain avoidance radar and navigational tools.
@@karhukivi, from the very beginning I had a sick feeling that somebody who was not qualified was at the controls. Like a joyride. Really bad decision making.
@@dalepatterson1748 Don't be too harsh, in some kinds of weather it can happen that you go into IMC almost without realising it. the terrain can force you into a marginal situation, or the weather can close in leaving you with few places to escape.
@@dalepatterson1748 Many pilots of both fixed and rotary-wing aircraft are only qualified to VFR and as long as they don't push the limits or fly in marginal conditions it is perfectly OK. I don't know any details of the latest accident, so I don't know what happened, mechanical failure is also possible.
Thank You for this video! We're all still so shaken and stunned. This helps us to somewhat close the chapter. Unfortunately, it does seem like the fog and pilot human error played a major role in this unthinkable tragedy. So sad for all families involved. I always wanted to get my pilot's license one day. Times like these make me consider the whole picture...Again Thank You.
As a newly minted pilot I flew a plane the Saturday morning after JFK Jr went missing the night before. The location was central Pennsylvania and the flight was from Reading to Williamsport, approx. 110 miles. The weather was warm with a haze in the air. The same weather of the night before and the same weather JFK Jr flew in. Seeing relatively far on the ground was no problem and a non pilot probably wouldn't even give it a second thought. But once you were in the air, although it was fairly easy to see the hazy ground below, a pilot absolutely could not tell the horizon looking straight ahead. The sky and the hazy ground blended in every direction. After flying about a third of the way with my tension growing by the minute, I called Williamsport, informed them I couldn't make it, and executed my very first nonpractice standard 180° turn and returned to Reading and left that flight for another day, hence I'm telling you this boring story. In the same weather, at night, out over water, with no lights or anything else to establish a horizon, JFK Jr did not return or land. He continued in the standard "get there itis" attitude and he isn't here to tell a boring story. Although mine is a fixed wing experience I have no problem understanding what transpired with Kobe's flight. Pilots know and hear this same story, over and over. Decisions have consequences. Kobe's death emphatically demonstrates that, again.
Couple of comments. As a non-Helicopter pilot, I like your analogy using a car explaining pressures - really made me think about my own decision making. Secondly, appreciate you acknowledging there were other people who died in this crash. Media is so focused on Kobe, but what about the other poor souls? Tragic all round.
I was shocked to learn that the helicopter that crashed with Kobe did not have TAWS. That's crazy! So why did the pilot choose that flight path in such foggy conditions? The sad part is that we will never know.
it was a suicide!! 2days before the crash one of the pilot's family member saw a suicide note in his pocket but thought it was just a joke or something
He had terrain view available but the facts indicate he lost control due to disorientation in transitioning from visual to instruments with other factors we do not know but can only speculate. This accident is a classic well known cause with classic antidotes.
Get there itis and overconfidence, I suppose. He knew it was pretty risky flying low in those conditions and that terrain, but thought he could pull it off.
Thank you PY. I ALWAYS hired two pilots for my Navaho. CRM, crew resource management is a valuable tool. Especially when PIC's feel they can do no wrong. Also, having two or more qualified pilots on board reduces risk when under task saturated events like inadvertant VFR to IMC. So tragic and so sad.
Good review. Another issue is the minimum safe altitude you are allowed to fly under Instrument Flight Rules. If the pilot was trying to maintain VMC he was a several thousand feet below the minimum IFR altitude for that area.
Thank you for a thorough explanation and tactful opinions. US basic VFR separation requirements are 3 smfv and 500’ below/1000’ above/2000’ horizontal cloud clearance. Special VFR for helicopters carrying passengers for hire allows for no less than 1/2 mile visibility and clear of clouds.
The spirit of your video is education and the love of flying. I believe that your points are not aimed at blaming Kobe's pilot. One discussion I'm interested in, is hearing stories from charter/private pilots, and the pressure to perform. Do pilots feel a pressure from the VIP or the company(s) they work for to be a hero, or brave, or super talented pilot? Have you ever heard of a pilot getting fired for standing firm on behalf of safety? Have you ever heard of a pilot being accused of incompetence, or lacking skill, because he refused to take a risk? Many pilots come from the military too. There is a particular kind of risk taking involved with the military. I'd like to hear these stories too.
I flew into clouds in a R-22. I just looked at the instruments and lowered the collative until I was out of the clouds. It seemed to take forever. Fly and learn.
You seem like a very stand up guy, thank you for explaining things to us as to get a better understanding of things. Like you said, we'll never really know. Take care
The pilot was an ifr instructor. After SoCal notified him of being to low, he raised he altitude to 2300 ft to get above the fog, which radar picked up. Radar then saw the copter make a left turn with rapid loss of altitude. Crash site was around 1100 ft.
@@slrzman3030 He tried to get above the clouds and realized it was too thick and went for an emergency 180 degree turn. Basically to get back to safety or a heli pad landing near by. Something in that moment screwed up. He either flicked on his instruments right before hand and lost his bearings. Or just lost his spatial awareness as he wss climbing and turning and lost control. To me it seems like he lost control on that 180.
Yes that seems like a plausible situation. How sad. It can happen and by this event, we see it does. Never mess with weather. It has claimed so many lives
Great video! Kobe was a type of guy doesn't want to be late. For them circling around ( running late ) with his sense of feeling or pressure knowing being paid good $. The word -Late- was the cause that I assumed. Being Rush.
I was Soo waiting for this Misha. I'm not a helicopter pilot, I'm a Dad. My son will be flying helicopters for the us Navy soon. We live in Los Angeles . We love Kobe we love helicopters and TBH we love this channel for a long time now. This one just hit way too close to home. Thank you Misha and R.I.P Kobe Bryant.
As good as Kobe's pilot was. He should have explained to Kobe that he should not use to copter. From what Kobe's former pilot stated, Kobe would ALWAYS listen to his recommendation. I doubt Kobe would force the pilot to fly against his will. The pilot should have declined that day or land before ever trying to climb. It's just heartbreaking for all of them involved.
@Terry Hawkins yep. He should have landed at that helipad that he passed. He could land ANYWHERE. Even on the street or parking lot if conditions were bad. He decided not to and it cost him and 8 others their lives.
@Terry Hawkins absolutely. It's just tragic. One decision so some could have saved all their lives. If police didn't have their choppers up in the air. He should have said NO. Or he would take them half way while he had visibility and landed. He passed two airports on his route.
One of my best friends is a crop duster. Power lines are his worst enemy. Before he dust a field, he will drive the area and identify the hazards. He has told me that when he cleans his windshield he always wipes up and down, never side to side. The horizontal streaks can mask horizontal lines. Always vertical strokes when cleaning. I bet some helo pilots do the same thing. Something so simple that you would never think of.
Yes flying in IMC conditions is risky, the pilot most likely did not know how to fly off his instruments........ If you don't do it a lot your skills atrophy.........
Well said aviation thoughts at a difficult time to say them, helicopters are amazing, there is risk in all methods of transportation, and we have to cherish and enjoy each and every day. Fly safe out there.
I agree, Pilots are faced with making Extra Critical decisions in both unfamiliar territory and in unexpected weather conditions. Additionally, Pilots should always have a backup plan, especially when flying VFR. Great Points! I admire your advice especially making 'Safety First', a Priority when flying. Thumbs UP!
Catastrophic faliure... Helicopter was just finishing a climb, went into a 180 degree and That's when the Helicopter began to free fall. Something happened at this point! However I'm just talking about it like Mischa said. Pilots fly in all types of weather. Overcast and Smog are a EVERY day situation in this region...My Thoughts Mischa I hope to meet you in person someday!#1fan I am...You are a HERO of mine and everything you do for Helicopter flight...
Very-very good observation and advice! Thanks for sharing with us your expérience and knowledge, which help us to make right travelling decisions on land and in the air.
From an OLD Helicopter Pilot(Vietnam). The ONE true answer is "GRAVITY". btw Pilot Yellow...YOU are truly correct, as in "Guns don't kill, it's the Bullet." Thank you for your thoughtful input. Still, all pilots MUST remember "Flying is fun, however, if you don't kill yourself Gravity will".
Great video, very well stated and you've made some excellent points. It is all too easy to forget how difficult some of these decisions are to make. Pilots who flew Kobe in the past certainly didn't indicate he would ever push them to make a poor decision, however sometimes the commercial pressures are enough to push a pilot to make a poor decision, no matter how experienced they are. It certainly seems like it would have been a good day to have stayed on the ground and not taken to the air.
No amount of peer pressure is an excuse for not saying “no”. If you have enough discipline to get certified then you should have enough discipline not to kill yourself for $
Pretty easy for people to tell you "it wasn't that bad" and that "we could've made it", when you don't fly and there's no accident, even though it's wrong. Never very easy making those decisions.
@@themagicshortbus1715 Haha of course not but you get what I'm saying. I couldn't imagine how nerve racking it must be to have those controls in your hands at times
Great timing .... I was just wondering about your thoughts on the recent events with respect to Kobe Bryant's helicopter. Well done. Keep up the great work.
A long cry from the Vietnam pilots in my day. We did not have the luxury the pilots have today, and flew by the seat of our pants in most situations. Of course we had enemy fire to contend with, but also all the other elements as well. Getting too close to foliage , like trees, would ruin our blades, and had to be hauled out by.a Chinook. Many memories....
Firstly, your channel is great for explaining all things helicopter. You have a keen way of breaking down information for pilots and non-pilots to understand. One bit of advise: Please stop adding the word “conditions” when using the acronym IMC and VMC. Not only is it redundant, but it makes you sound less credible. If you are making the assumption that your audience knows what IMC stands for, they also probably know that the “C” stands for conditions!
Not if you can't fly the aircraft by reference only to those instruments. Even in a fixed-wing aircraft, it takes a lot of training (and practice, as it is a skill that goes off very quickly) to be able to fly in IMC. Without training and instruments, you will lose control within 3 minutes, often much quicker than that.
@@karhukivi Its a lot sooner than that in a helicopter. In a split second of inattention you can destroy your machine and be a pile of scap metal heading towards the ground.
In the Kobe accident the helicopter was VFR, then climbed into (mountain free) cloud, then descended at a high rate (5000 fpm) at hit the canyon hill side. I think spatial disorientation might end up being the cause of loss of control, leading to the crash.
@@Cmoredebris You are clearly understood. CFIT is "controlled" flight into terrain. Spatial disorientation is a polite understatement of a loss of control due to insufficient scan and or instrument interpretation that relies upon solid instrument training. Interestingly this pilot had 8,500 hrs so he probably had a huge amount of six pack time rather than glass. There is a modern phenomenon that when pilots who have trained only on glass go to six pack that they lose control as quickly as a person who has no instrument training.
Thank you for informing us of VFR and IFR (hope I got those right) I've never been in a Helicopter . I've been on airplanes a few times but honestly I have a fear of flying.. I really have no right to guess but so many people who live in that area said the fog was thick as milk. I had to drive through horrible fog one time on a trip and it was scary not to see what's in front of you. We are a Sports Loving Family so I've been reading everything about Kobe since Sunday. My husband and son have seen him play and also Shaq. I did get to see Michael Jordan play the Dallas Mavs. I feel that Kobe did not want GG to miss her Mamba game. That is just my opinion since he had such determination. His teammates said he always flew in a Copter to every practice and game for 18 years. Kobe did say he and his wife had an agreement that they would never fly together in a Helicopter for the kids sake. I'm upset a guy commented that the pilot was an Iranian and crashed on purpose. I said B.S. The "what ifs" and "if only" can't be changed now. PRAYERS FOR ALL WHO WERE LOST THAT DAY!
Good video, no kind of pressure should make any pilot take a decision to fly in a bad weather conditions, when is time to call me he shot , just call the shot even if cost you money or your job , save lives is numero one pressure.
Great videos Mischa.. you’re amazing! Both those causes seem somewhat avoidable. And they say 80% of helicopter crashes are pilot error. Could you please do a video on birdstrikes?
@@hayypapi4281 What's your point on both your comments? 1. The helicopter was downed on a mountainside. 2. Conditions change due to micro climates of the state.
I THANK YOU FOR THESE VIDEO'S..GOOD INFO AS ALWAYS. IMC IN MY OPINION IS THE MOSE CRUCIAL...BACK IN THE 80'S, A LOCAL RADIO STATION HERE IN CINCINNATI CRASHED BECAUSE OF IMC, KILLED THE REPORTER AND PILOT. THE RADIO STATION ORDERED THE BIRD TO GO UP ALL BECAUSE OF RATINGS...AND THEY WOULD UP LOOSING THE STATION DUE TO WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUITS. THEY SHOULD HAVE!
One thing that really confused the crap out of me is that there is collision avoidance system on that heli. The terrain must have shown up on the panel.
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Again a very instructive video.
I have lost 4 (very experienced) close friends over the last 10 years due to flying helicopters into hillsides in bad visibility, 2 of them were fully IFR rated, it nearly happened to me years ago but was fortunate to be going slow enough to land in a quarry on the side of the hill and leave the helicopter there and later rescued by my wife, it took 3 days for fog to disappear to collect helicopter. I am now 62 years old, been in the industry all my life and the crashes into hills and wires will never cease.
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Mark Newman .. You are correct Sir and RIP to your friends. IMC conditions are scary as hell whether you’re IFR rated or not.. 🤔 Only a select few IFR rated pilots (probably one in 500 or even less) are experienced enough to truly fly comfortably in zero visibility with steep terrain fluctuations in and around high hills and mountains..
Tastefully done. Part of the reason I watch your channel. You’re a stand up guy and used this as a teaching situation. Thank you.
Given the Kobe tragedy you'll have a greater appreciation when you're delayed at the airport due to weather.
Pilot Peego
You ain’t neva lied 😔😔😔😔😔😔
Pilot Peego True
Exactly
Celebs dont wait for weather.. right?🤣
People have a choice not to fly when there's bag fog etc. The choice is of utmost importance.
Your comments on “why helicopters crash” and related causes is very much appreciated over hours of speculation by news reporters. Thank you
Robert Harper your welcome
The news has actually been very informative. The press address the possible causes, (the theory to be proven or disproved) with good explanations that clarifies the picture to the public. Its not why Helicopters crash but primarily the human factors of pilot error.
A pilot has to have the courage to save his and his passengers lives. Fatal accidents, usually, are a chain of events that can have its initial decision taken as early as the day or days before. Decision making is a chain of choices and the outcome is as strong as the weakest decision.
DDT DDT you are so right and concise on your comment.
Well said. The bad decision was not your final "wrong turn" in the clouds. The bad decision was to get close to heavy, or heavier, clouds. Or, the bad decision was to fly that day. Kobe's helicopter was very close to the landing destination. This did not help matters. This was a short flight. The heavier cloud cover showed up at the very end of the flight.
It's your life, its your decisions, it's your outcome, choose them.
if you have good client you want to deliver I wonder if that compromised this thinking ..did he fear losing client etc
Thank you for your genuine and tasteful explanation as to this situation. This has affected millions of people and you honored the crash victims with a detailed explanation of possible causes without faulting the pilot out right. I'm sure the pilot had his hands full and the stress must have been unimaginable. RIP All !
In the fire/ems service we have a saying... "When in doubt, DON'T" ... Saying applies to all you could say. With aircraft taking off is optional, landing is mandatory. Very nice vid Sir thank you!
Was hoping you would talk about this event. I've heard a few pilots discuss recently but yours really stands out much like your other great content. Thanks and happy safe flying.
I live just south of the Accident and it Was VERY VERY Foggy with ZERO Visibility.
Very very sad indeed.
jcnme2020 very sad
Yeah it was veey bad
Thank you for this. You are really a great instructor and compassionate human being.
I live near the Kobe accident site.
They were following the 101 freeway which rises to go through a low point in the mountains. Higher ground on both sides of the road. As they progressed the road was steadily going up fairly slowly but at the speed of the aircraft it would happen fast.
Thousand Oaks is definitely in the clouds often while Los Angeles is possible to Scud run.
Continuing along the 101 leads you over a much taller mountain right at the city of Thousand Oaks so you are in the foothills right at the bast of a mountain and at a much higher ground altitude.
A very foolish attempt driven by “get there itis” and the pressure to accommodate the high end customer.
Rodney
Pilot for 40 years
GREAT POST ! This is the only decent comment I've seen so far.
Private Cautious Kobe’s old pilot said he never pressured him ever
Bestever2408
It’s not direct pressure from the client.
Pilot wants to do what is needed for the customer while thinking it will be ok. Also believing he will just see how it is and he can always turn back. Scud running is always thinking I will joust turn back, but people die all the time trying to turn back when it’s too late to do that.
Face the reality that this was a pilot trying to do a good job for his client and waited too long to turn back.
2 miles earlier and he could have made that same turn without hitting anything.
He was flying into a canyon and he knew it.
Pilot was a long time CFII, so it makes even less sense
I used to live in Thousand Oaks and flew CH-46's out of NAS Point Mugu. You're right on ...
These external factors seem so dumb after a crash, yet so pressing when in the situation.
Once I took some friends flying and told them we would checkout a special place 45 minutes away. 35kts head wind decided it would be way longer and fuel was low. Low for my minimums(always land with 1 hour of fuel).
I felt kind of stupid having to turn around and tell them even though we could physically do it we wouldn't because of my minimums. And I really pondered breaching my minimums :o
Turns out people are smart and they just trusted me. They were just happy to see the world from above and the external factor was me imagining their reaction. We had a blast :)
Just say no to external forces and set/keep your minimums :D
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Yahel Bouaziz I love that. That’s a fantastic example. Thank you for sharing.
I don't care how many hours you have flying a helicopter, a plane, or even driving a car, because the fact is people will make mistakes. Most air disasters, or auto accidents are not mechanical. The problem lies between two ears. Poor decision making! Why did he choose to fly SVFR in a hilly area without TAWS? Crazy!!!
Agree.. kobe pilot is too old he lost his mind..
100& true...the pilot messed up...and in a helicopter that can end badly
Akosi men it’s not because of his age it’s because he got too comfortable.
@@Tommy88- huh? But for me. Its better to lose jobs than lose life
Akosi men you didn’t get my point
"...its always preferable to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than in the air wishing you were on ground.."
You've done a great job of explaining this situation.
I give you a lot of credit for your ability to speak so that we can all understand.
According to Kurt Deetz, Kobe's former pilot, He stated that Ara was certified to fly IFR but the company he worked for only flew VFR. Who knows what it will come down too
The pilot was flying very low, under the clouds, trying to follow Hwy 101 and at some point, as he entered the rising canyon terrain, the fog closed around him. He realized he was in the white room with looming terrain all around and had to start making plans to get out (rapid ascent, with little forward speed, which can be very disorienting). At that point, he would have had a lot on his plate. Which way can I turn? Where were the mountains? Where can I get out of here? Can I land anywhere? Etc... Now, throw in a transition from looking outside to nothing but instruments (he was IFR rated, instructor in fact, though I am not sure how current), because there is nothing at all but white, out the windows. Crap, was I turning? Climbing? Which heading am I looking for? How fast do I need to climb? Now, add in that there's kids and a VIP in the back. Don't let them know you're worried. Oh no, we're rolling...
Get There Syndrome is preventable, especially with the landing options a helicopter has, but all too common. Needless tragedy.
Exactly what happened. He flew into clouds, got disoriented, and crashed into the hillside. All happened in 10-30 seconds.
There is a video on you tube of another helicopter crash that if you see it you would agree with me and say that's exactly what happened to kobe's..it was filmed from inside the helicopter and it shows terrible PDM flying into IMC with no visibility and total Spatial-D..helicopter rolled to one side and down like a rock it went..killing 4..including newlyweds in their way to reception.very sad..
Search for" Brazil helicopter wedding crash kills 4"
@@carloscortes5570 I've seen that one and I do believe that would have been very much the way it happened. My understanding though, is that it is the Bride and her brother, on the way to the ceremony. A few differences: -That is a Robinson R44, which is not rated for IFR operation. So, that piloto had no business at all flying into that fog. Kobe's pilot was instrument qualified and the helicopter was also capable. Unfortunately, sudden inadvertent IMC is still nothing to mess around with, as demonstrated in Kobe's crash. -There appears to be much less energy in the Brazilian crash. It was still fatal, but it seemed like more of a "car crash" level of impact energy, than a 'smoking crater' (if that makes sense).
@@carloscortes5570 Thanks, but that pilot was being *super careful,* as disorienting as it seemed, he wasn't going that fast.
@@CineSoar the charter company only flies vfr flights, so it doesn't really matter how equipped the craft was. They are only allowed to fly in vfr conditions.......which is what the conditions were at the airport they took off from, but they obviously were a lot worse further north.
You were the first one I wanted to hear talk about all this. Thanks for posting so quickly!
"Mr Bryant sir , I'm afraid we are going to have to turn around and arrange ground transportation . Please accept my apologies .
That's the kind of external forces I was imagining.
It seems likely by the pilots actions, he was pressured to continue and clearly disoriented.
If only...
It appears that that was what they were trying to do, obviously too late.
True airmanship is just doing that. Better lose your job than lose your life.
I totally admire and respect this flight instructor!! He was asked by many followers to talk about kobes tragic and sad accident.This man is a well known respected admired CFI.one of the best,extremely knowledgeable and his comment about the accident was all about how sad it was.condolences and prayers to everybody's family involved.then basic facts about why helicopters crash..did not jump into any conclusion or assumptions..on the other side you got all these other channels with people that are not truly qualified, they are not even pilots and probably just flight simulator gamers making all kind of stories and analyzing why,where,and how not truly knowing what they talking about.thank you for another great video!
carlos cortes I appreciate your support.
I always enjoy your exceptional videos as a aviation enthusiast. I am no longer a pilot because of age and lack of a FAA medical. However, it doesn't slow my love of flying I just now enjoy it surreptitiously through others. It is not a criticism because as I said your videos are exceptional but try to ditch the term "OK". I do it at times myself. Keep up the good work.
I lost my cousin in Toronto Ontario in a R44 in poor weather. A year and a half ago. Actually Stoufville . Buttonville airport was not aware of the bad weather. Wrong place wrong time. RIP Jim. Clear Skies
Tim Geden RIP ❤️
I don't drive when there is ice on the roads, and pilots should not fly VFR when they can't see where the hell they're going. It's just that simple!
IFR
Yessssss! It's just that simple!!
@@davidambrose9824 VFR was correct. IFR is INSTRUMENT FLIGHT RATING and VFR is VISUAL FLIGHT RATING. IFR is used when the pilot CANNOT see.
@@swaghauler8334 LoL
@@swaghauler8334 I apologise. Read it incorrectly. Thanks! 👍
Thanks. Ara had flown this route many times - just not on a foggy day. He took an early left turn because he mistook the area probably for the intersection in Camarillo. Realizing his mistake, Ara tried to turn around. We have lost so many celebrities because the pilot tried to fly visual. I say the technology is there for a reason - use it. Don't be a hotdog. He never got a weather report for the Valley. Would it have made a difference? Hard to tell.
Brave video, Mischa. Tough time for all. Appreciate your opinion. When I was an engineer in the Merchant Marines, similar to your PDM I came up with operator error or operator errorgance. When the schools sent the apprentices to our ships I liked to stress to them not to let your ego make bad decisions. Thanks.
I'm not a pilot, I've watched many videos on plane/helicopter crashes. I would think having something like a plumb bob hanging in the cabin would help in seeing the orientation of your craft. Only needs to be 6 to 10 inches long. By its position one could see all angles, this could be of help when instruments fail too.
Hey Mischa, I totally agree with you about pilot decision making. It's critical! Most air disasters are due to pilot error, and not mechanical related. It's the same with auto accidents. People simply being knuckleheads!
You just got a GREAT shout out from Blancolirio for your channel and the VFR into IMC conditions. Congrats.
This man just hit the nail on the head and said the thing that is needing to be both said and educated into the minds of pilots (of all vehicles; of all institutions: personal responsibility and possessing the courage to do the right thing in the right moment, despite all external pressures. Such a quality is leadership in the face of and despite all antagonistic forces, and it is the single rarest quality in human beings across the world.
As a retired tractor-trailer owner-operator, with 30 years experience...I was always "the Captain of my ship"...in the heat of the moment, some fault you for making the decision that is correct...later, they thank you and respect you for it.
I've been flying in helicopters for a while and when we have bad weather come at us we just land at the spot and wait our to get better, that is the advantage of helicopter
Ro Morrison Once you lose visibility, it becomes curtains for you. My dad is a pilot and he definitely thinks it’s a pilot error. Probably tried attempting to fly above the clouds but was flying low and since it was at high speed with zero visibility may have caused the pilot to disorientate and crash right into the terrain on high speed impact. Preliminary report will be announced by end of this weekend I believe.
Yes, very versatile that way and reasonable.
@Rob Basque you mean,in one piece,what can be that important?
Very well done. Very well spoken. It’s legit information that’s separate from the speculation from the news. Keep this up my friend!
Very respectful, this has touched the world and totally right not to speculate, but also right to emphasise the importance of decision making I have been taught if there is any doubt there is no doubt RIP and condolences at this very sad time.
In 1991, I lost four shipmates in an aircraft mishap. They were in a U.S. Navy Helicopter (H-2). Sometimes nothing goes right... Always a shame. I still love rotary flight, and love your channel. Thank you!
Who cares!
Thank you for taking the time for the explanation!
Thanks for posting this. The fog in LA has been very compact for the weekend. I feel weather was a cause. You've given me some hope with your video. I hope to fly one day.
Good video, good sentiment. Kobe was an amazing basketball player and great father.
The very first thing I did, when I read that Kobe Bryant was killed in a helicopter crash, was find out what kind of helicopter he was in.
I just find it fascinating that a Sikorsky S76 would not be equipped with the latest terrain avoidance radar and navigational tools.
The question is if the pilot was trained to fly in IMC. No good having that equipment on board and not being able to use it.
@@karhukivi, from the very beginning I had a sick feeling that somebody who was not qualified was at the controls. Like a joyride. Really bad decision making.
@Rob J, was Kobe flying??
@@dalepatterson1748 Don't be too harsh, in some kinds of weather it can happen that you go into IMC almost without realising it. the terrain can force you into a marginal situation, or the weather can close in leaving you with few places to escape.
@@dalepatterson1748 Many pilots of both fixed and rotary-wing aircraft are only qualified to VFR and as long as they don't push the limits or fly in marginal conditions it is perfectly OK. I don't know any details of the latest accident, so I don't know what happened, mechanical failure is also possible.
Good advice about forcing yourself to make the right decision even when it’s difficult 👌🏾💯
Thank You for this video! We're all still so shaken and stunned. This helps us to somewhat close the chapter. Unfortunately, it does seem like the fog and pilot human error played a major role in this unthinkable tragedy. So sad for all families involved. I always wanted to get my pilot's license one day. Times like these make me consider the whole picture...Again Thank You.
Man what a great insight into how difficult those decisions are!
Good video at a hard time. May everybody on this helicopter rest in piece
Excellent video. A lot of people don't understand that helicopters operating IFR can't land everywhere.
As a newly minted pilot I flew a plane the Saturday morning after JFK Jr went missing the night before. The location was central Pennsylvania and the flight was from Reading to Williamsport, approx. 110 miles.
The weather was warm with a haze in the air. The same weather of the night before and the same weather JFK Jr flew in. Seeing relatively far on the ground was no problem and a non pilot probably wouldn't even give it a second thought. But once you were in the air, although it was fairly easy to see the hazy ground below, a pilot absolutely could not tell the horizon looking straight ahead. The sky and the hazy ground blended in every direction.
After flying about a third of the way with my tension growing by the minute, I called Williamsport, informed them I couldn't make it, and executed my very first nonpractice standard 180° turn and returned to Reading and left that flight for another day, hence I'm telling you this boring story.
In the same weather, at night, out over water, with no lights or anything else to establish a horizon, JFK Jr did not return or land. He continued in the standard "get there itis" attitude and he isn't here to tell a boring story.
Although mine is a fixed wing experience I have no problem understanding what transpired with Kobe's flight. Pilots know and hear this same story, over and over. Decisions have consequences. Kobe's death emphatically demonstrates that, again.
Couple of comments. As a non-Helicopter pilot, I like your analogy using a car explaining pressures - really made me think about my own decision making. Secondly, appreciate you acknowledging there were other people who died in this crash. Media is so focused on Kobe, but what about the other poor souls? Tragic all round.
I was shocked to learn that the helicopter that crashed with Kobe did not have TAWS. That's crazy! So why did the pilot choose that flight path in such foggy conditions? The sad part is that we will never know.
it was a suicide!! 2days before the crash one of the pilot's family member saw a suicide note in his pocket but thought it was just a joke or something
@@gravesupulturero3652 Bullshit. That information would be on every Newstation
He had terrain view available but the facts indicate he lost control due to disorientation in transitioning from visual to instruments with other factors we do not know but can only speculate. This accident is a classic well known cause with classic antidotes.
Get there itis and overconfidence, I suppose. He knew it was pretty risky flying low in those conditions and that terrain, but thought he could pull it off.
TAWS would not have helped. Read about "graveyard spiral".
Thank you PY. I ALWAYS hired two pilots for my Navaho. CRM, crew resource management is a valuable tool. Especially when PIC's feel they can do no wrong. Also, having two or more qualified pilots on board reduces risk when under task saturated events like inadvertant VFR to IMC. So tragic and so sad.
Good review. Another issue is the minimum safe altitude you are allowed to fly under Instrument Flight Rules. If the pilot was trying to maintain VMC he was a several thousand feet below the minimum IFR altitude for that area.
Thank you for a thorough explanation and tactful opinions.
US basic VFR separation requirements are 3 smfv and 500’ below/1000’ above/2000’ horizontal cloud clearance.
Special VFR for helicopters carrying passengers for hire allows for no less than 1/2 mile visibility and clear of clouds.
Great explanation Mischa for everyone not only for Pilots. Thank you and always happy landings. Stay safe out there.
The spirit of your video is education and the love of flying. I believe that your points are not aimed at blaming Kobe's pilot. One discussion I'm interested in, is hearing stories from charter/private pilots, and the pressure to perform. Do pilots feel a pressure from the VIP or the company(s) they work for to be a hero, or brave, or super talented pilot? Have you ever heard of a pilot getting fired for standing firm on behalf of safety? Have you ever heard of a pilot being accused of incompetence, or lacking skill, because he refused to take a risk? Many pilots come from the military too. There is a particular kind of risk taking involved with the military. I'd like to hear these stories too.
I flew into clouds in a R-22. I just looked at the instruments and lowered the collative until I was out of the clouds. It seemed to take forever. Fly and learn.
Thanks again for the very good explanation. Makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you! 🙏
You seem like a very stand up guy, thank you for explaining things to us as to get a better understanding of things. Like you said, we'll never really know. Take care
The pilot was an ifr instructor. After SoCal notified him of being to low, he raised he altitude to 2300 ft to get above the fog, which radar picked up. Radar then saw the copter make a left turn with rapid
loss of altitude. Crash site was around 1100 ft.
Katta Wakai so they hit something and then crashed or what’s your take on it ?
@@slrzman3030 He tried to get above the clouds and realized it was too thick and went for an emergency 180 degree turn. Basically to get back to safety or a heli pad landing near by. Something in that moment screwed up. He either flicked on his instruments right before hand and lost his bearings. Or just lost his spatial awareness as he wss climbing and turning and lost control. To me it seems like he lost control on that 180.
True. It was reported that the pilot was cfii on helicopters.
Yes that seems like a plausible situation. How sad. It can happen and by this event, we see it does. Never mess with weather. It has claimed so many lives
THANK YOU FOR THE INTELLIGENT LOGICAL EXPLANATION.
Great video! Kobe was a type of guy doesn't want to be late. For them circling around ( running late ) with his sense of feeling or pressure knowing being paid good $. The word -Late- was the cause that I assumed. Being Rush.
I was Soo waiting for this Misha. I'm not a helicopter pilot, I'm a Dad. My son will be flying helicopters for the us Navy soon. We live in Los Angeles . We love Kobe we love helicopters and TBH we love this channel for a long time now. This one just hit way too close to home. Thank you Misha and R.I.P Kobe Bryant.
As good as Kobe's pilot was. He should have explained to Kobe that he should not use to copter. From what Kobe's former pilot stated, Kobe would ALWAYS listen to his recommendation. I doubt Kobe would force the pilot to fly against his will. The pilot should have declined that day or land before ever trying to climb. It's just heartbreaking for all of them involved.
@Terry Hawkins yep. He should have landed at that helipad that he passed. He could land ANYWHERE. Even on the street or parking lot if conditions were bad. He decided not to and it cost him and 8 others their lives.
@Terry Hawkins absolutely. It's just tragic. One decision so some could have saved all their lives. If police didn't have their choppers up in the air. He should have said NO. Or he would take them half way while he had visibility and landed. He passed two airports on his route.
One of my best friends is a crop duster. Power lines are his worst enemy. Before he dust a field, he will drive the area and identify the hazards. He has told me that when he cleans his windshield he always wipes up and down, never side to side. The horizontal streaks can mask horizontal lines. Always vertical strokes when cleaning. I bet some helo pilots do the same thing. Something so simple that you would never think of.
Yes flying in IMC conditions is risky, the pilot most likely did not know how to fly off his instruments........ If you don't do it a lot your skills atrophy.........
Literally, just begun. Thankyou
Well said aviation thoughts at a difficult time to say them, helicopters are amazing, there is risk in all methods of transportation, and we have to cherish and enjoy each and every day. Fly safe out there.
I agree, Pilots are faced with making Extra Critical decisions in both unfamiliar territory and in unexpected weather conditions. Additionally, Pilots should always have a backup plan, especially when flying VFR. Great Points! I admire your advice especially making 'Safety First', a Priority when flying. Thumbs UP!
You are a great teacher 💫, thank you 💓👏🏾
Sometimes our ego gets in the way of making those right decisions
Catastrophic faliure... Helicopter was just finishing a climb, went into a 180 degree and That's when the Helicopter began to free fall. Something happened at this point! However I'm just talking about it like Mischa said. Pilots fly in all types of weather. Overcast and Smog are a EVERY day situation in this region...My Thoughts Mischa I hope to meet you in person someday!#1fan I am...You are a HERO of mine and everything you do for Helicopter flight...
Thank you for that information keep up the great work you do be safe out there.
Very-very good observation and advice! Thanks for sharing with us your expérience and knowledge, which help us to make right travelling decisions on land and in the air.
Well presented. Needs to be talked about in hopes of preventing another tragedy.
I knew i could count on you to upload something today after the news of Kobe
From an OLD Helicopter Pilot(Vietnam). The ONE true answer is "GRAVITY". btw Pilot Yellow...YOU are truly correct, as in "Guns don't kill, it's the Bullet." Thank you for your thoughtful input. Still, all pilots MUST remember "Flying is fun, however, if you don't kill yourself Gravity will".
Delivered well and on point. Good ADM is a life saver.
CFIT'' ugh happens way to often
Great respectful video
Great video, very well stated and you've made some excellent points. It is all too easy to forget how difficult some of these decisions are to make. Pilots who flew Kobe in the past certainly didn't indicate he would ever push them to make a poor decision, however sometimes the commercial pressures are enough to push a pilot to make a poor decision, no matter how experienced they are. It certainly seems like it would have been a good day to have stayed on the ground and not taken to the air.
No amount of peer pressure is an excuse for not saying “no”. If you have enough discipline to get certified then you should have enough discipline not to kill yourself for $
Thank-you for your comments on this!
Thanks for posting. Very well Explained. Sad for the families...
Pretty easy for people to tell you "it wasn't that bad" and that "we could've made it", when you don't fly and there's no accident, even though it's wrong. Never very easy making those decisions.
As a fixed wing sport pilot making the right calls with a friend on board is difficult until I let them feel an updraft lol
@@themagicshortbus1715 Ya I bet lol maybe offer them the controls if they're so confident
@@joebessette6565 eh, no lol
@@themagicshortbus1715 Haha of course not but you get what I'm saying. I couldn't imagine how nerve racking it must be to have those controls in your hands at times
@@joebessette6565 yeah I've had my moments of "oh $h!t"
Great timing .... I was just wondering about your thoughts on the recent events with respect to Kobe Bryant's helicopter. Well done. Keep up the great work.
A long cry from the Vietnam pilots in my day. We did not have the luxury the pilots have today, and flew by the seat of our pants in most situations. Of course we had enemy fire to contend with, but also all the other elements as well. Getting too close to foliage , like trees, would ruin our blades, and had to be hauled out by.a Chinook. Many memories....
Firstly, your channel is great for explaining all things helicopter. You have a keen way of breaking down information for pilots and non-pilots to understand.
One bit of advise:
Please stop adding the word “conditions” when using the acronym IMC and VMC. Not only is it redundant, but it makes you sound less credible.
If you are making the assumption that your audience knows what IMC stands for, they also probably know that the “C” stands for conditions!
Really nice view and music choice thank you for this video!!
I am not a pilot but it seems like a Garmin glass cockpit with warning alarms would save you from CFIT (controlled flight into terrain).
Not if you can't fly the aircraft by reference only to those instruments. Even in a fixed-wing aircraft, it takes a lot of training (and practice, as it is a skill that goes off very quickly) to be able to fly in IMC. Without training and instruments, you will lose control within 3 minutes, often much quicker than that.
I suspect the last thing they heard was TERRAIN TERRAIN
@@karhukivi Its a lot sooner than that in a helicopter. In a split second of inattention you can destroy your machine and be a pile of scap metal heading towards the ground.
Thank you this was so informative!! from Hawaii 🙌🏽✨🤙🏽😌
You mean flying into a cloud full of mountain.
Also known as cumulus granitus.
In the Kobe accident the helicopter was VFR, then climbed into (mountain free) cloud, then descended at a high rate (5000 fpm) at hit the canyon hill side. I think spatial disorientation might end up being the cause of loss of control, leading to the crash.
@@Cmoredebris Congrats , about the best explanation and comment so far.
@@ramjet4025 My opinion...Not CFIT
@@Cmoredebris You are clearly understood. CFIT is "controlled" flight into terrain. Spatial disorientation is a polite understatement of a loss of control due to insufficient scan and or instrument interpretation that relies upon solid instrument training. Interestingly this pilot had 8,500 hrs so he probably had a huge amount of six pack time rather than glass. There is a modern phenomenon that when pilots who have trained only on glass go to six pack that they lose control as quickly as a person who has no instrument training.
Thank you for informing us of VFR and IFR (hope I got those right) I've never been in a Helicopter . I've been on airplanes a few times but honestly I have a fear of flying.. I really have no right to guess but so many people who live in that area said the fog was thick as milk. I had to drive through horrible fog one time on a trip and it was scary not to see what's in front of you. We are a Sports Loving Family so I've been reading everything about Kobe since Sunday. My husband and son have seen him play and also Shaq. I did get to see Michael Jordan play the Dallas Mavs. I feel that Kobe did not want GG to miss her Mamba game. That is just my opinion since he had such determination. His teammates said he always flew in a Copter to every practice and game for 18 years. Kobe did say he and his wife had an agreement that they would never fly together in a Helicopter for the kids sake. I'm upset a guy commented that the pilot was an Iranian and crashed on purpose. I said B.S. The "what ifs" and "if only" can't be changed now. PRAYERS FOR ALL WHO WERE LOST THAT DAY!
Great video thanks for sharing.
Good video, no kind of pressure should make any pilot take a decision to fly in a bad weather conditions, when is time to call me he shot , just call the shot even if cost you money or your job , save lives is numero one pressure.
My condolences to the entire families and much respect to all of the pilots in the world.
Great videos Mischa.. you’re amazing! Both those causes seem somewhat avoidable. And they say 80% of helicopter crashes are pilot error. Could you please do a video on birdstrikes?
You do a lot of touch and go in what appears to be heavy wild life areas. Have you ever hit a bird? If not, how do you avoid them?
You have a calming voice brother
Had to land and shut down a few times when I was a NVG IP at Fort Rucker AL in the 80's, lived to fly another night!
Sounds like the Pilot flew into clouds, got disoriented, and crashed into the hillside. All happened in 5-30 seconds.
SanFranciscoBay yes there where’s mountain 🏔
It was pretty foggy where he crashed but when he took off there was clear sky’s
@@hayypapi4281 What's your point on both your comments? 1. The helicopter was downed on a mountainside. 2. Conditions change due to micro climates of the state.
the NTSB found nothing wrong with the engines or the blades. According to witnesses, the guy was lost in the soup.
Possibly what is referred to in aviation
as _"GET-THERE-ITIS"...._
Great video and explanation. Hopefully it can save lives.
I THANK YOU FOR THESE VIDEO'S..GOOD INFO AS ALWAYS. IMC IN MY OPINION IS THE MOSE CRUCIAL...BACK IN THE 80'S, A LOCAL RADIO STATION HERE IN CINCINNATI CRASHED BECAUSE OF IMC, KILLED THE REPORTER AND PILOT. THE RADIO STATION ORDERED THE BIRD TO GO UP ALL BECAUSE OF RATINGS...AND THEY WOULD UP LOOSING THE STATION DUE TO WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUITS. THEY SHOULD HAVE!
Great Explanation Sir 🙏🏽
One thing that really confused the crap out of me is that there is collision avoidance system on that heli. The terrain must have shown up on the panel.
Pilot Peego terrain wasn’t the problem.
Flying blind and losing control and falling straight down was the problem
@@PInk77W1 That has not being confirmed.
NTSB briefing earlier tonight said the helicopter was not equipped with TAWS/EGPWS.
Your an Awesome instructor and thanks for sharing, i to was interested to see what You thought about that accident.
Got here from the Blancolirio channel
One of your best videos!!
Well Done. Excellent Explanation and Advice...