My first session with my new Osmose and the Roli Seaboard Rise, two great MPE Instruments, it is so much fun to play them. It is only recorded with IPhone Se
I purchased both the Seaboard Rise 2 and the Osmose. I returned the Osmose and kept the Seaboard. The Osmose had bugs in the firmware, which created problems, while the Seaboard was more fully baked. The Seaboard had two more dimensions of sound than the Osmose which makes it more expressive. But the biggest reason was the sounds. The built-in sounds on the Osmose just weren't that good and almost none of them sounded like real instruments. The Osmose does not support sampling with the built-in synthesizer, while the synthesizer that comes with the Seaboard does support sampling (and other types of sound generation). The Seaboard has a nice combination of synthetic sounds and very good recreations of real instruments. Each built-in sound on the Seaboard has help text that explains how it works and the best way to play it. Another big advantage of the Seaboard is that it is all software based, which means I can have multiple copies of it in a DAW project with each playing a different sound. The Osmose is completely hardware based with line outs, so you have to use two more inputs on your audio interface, or buy a two input audio interface if you don't already have one. If you want to record multiple tracks with the Osmose, you have to bounce each one to a wave file, which cannot be easily edited after it is bounced. The knobs and sliders on the Osmose felt flimsy. I could see them wearing out rather quickly. The controls on the Seaboard were of higher quality. The one way in which the Osmose beat the Seaboard was that it had a regular keyboard but with added capability. If you have played piano or keyboards before, you can instantly play the Osmose. (You do have to practice using the new dimensions of sound, however, that are not on a piano.) The Seaboard is not a keyboard at all, so you have to practice on it to learn how to play it. Having said that, I didn't have to practice very much on the Seaboard to learn how to play it, because the layout of the "keys" is similar to the layout of the keys on a piano and I know how to play piano.
Which of these two has a lighter touch? I dislike having to press hard to make a sound so if there's much difference there that may be enough to make the decision for me as to which to get
Personally, I think the patch you used for the Roli sounds more realistic, more expressive, but has a more soft tone that I prefer over the more "in your face" sound of the Osmose.
anyone help me ? i recently bought an expressive e osmose, and like it every much. so much i just purchased a software package from expressive e ( imagine and noise and some expansions in 1 package). To my surprise i don't like it at all. those soft synths are not MPE, or did i miss something ? ( im still figuring out how to use it all in logic, maybe i have a setting that i dint find yet. )BUT can I Use the Osmose to play with Roli's Equator 2 mpe synth ??? ive seen promotional videos of Expressive e that promote or feature the roli seaboard, but does it work the other way around too ? Osmose using the Role equator? or is it a tedious setup , re configuring every midi channel, function, controller? thanks a lot for any advice ....
@@Donetur not the keyboard, but two of the software plug ins do not appear in logic which I am still trying to figure out why. That said I can do things with my songs that was very hard to donbefore.
A little concerning that Roli has gone bankrupt not once but twice! Wondering if support will be there. When I play the Roli I experience pain in my hands afterward and I know others who've experienced the same. Not sure if we're doing it wrong or if some of the gestures are just not ergonomic for humans, but these are two things to be aware of with the Roli.
The roll is very hard to play at first it’s very easy to be off key that’s the biggest downside to it and there are no real keys it’s kinda one big fretboard in a sense
@@Jason50009Athank you so much. I’m still in doubt and before I choose for either Rise 2 or Osmose, I would really want to try them first. No store in The Netherlands who has them, so I will have to wait haha! The Block M also has my interest, because it’s way cheaper because of its size.
@@luucdentoom6955I've been battling this exact decision for ages and honestly I think I'm gonna go for Osmose E. I like that it is a whole onboard synth where each sound is modeled to the unique keybed. I find that more appealing than a slab that cost £1000 and required a laptop to use. Let me know which one u get.
Keep in mind that he is comparing the old Seabord against the new Osmose. With the Seabord 2 now open for pre-order we'll definetly start to get some more representative comparisons.
Nothing important is changed in Seaboard Rise 2, to be honest. Still the same thing with the new face. It's marketing. Ah, yes, USB type C... will definitely make a difference. Sarcasm.
i'm really torn between the rise and the osmose. they both sound so versatile. which would you suggest to someone looking for adding more degrees of freedom to their composition writing?
OMG, as a member of the vast family of players of actual acoustic instruments, on what planet is the Roli better than the Osmose?!?!…BTW, that was intended as a rhetorical question!…Good Lord!
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I purchased both the Seaboard Rise 2 and the Osmose. I returned the Osmose and kept the Seaboard. The Osmose had bugs in the firmware, which created problems, while the Seaboard was more fully baked. The Seaboard had two more dimensions of sound than the Osmose which makes it more expressive. But the biggest reason was the sounds. The built-in sounds on the Osmose just weren't that good and almost none of them sounded like real instruments. The Osmose does not support sampling with the built-in synthesizer, while the synthesizer that comes with the Seaboard does support sampling (and other types of sound generation). The Seaboard has a nice combination of synthetic sounds and very good recreations of real instruments. Each built-in sound on the Seaboard has help text that explains how it works and the best way to play it. Another big advantage of the Seaboard is that it is all software based, which means I can have multiple copies of it in a DAW project with each playing a different sound. The Osmose is completely hardware based with line outs, so you have to use two more inputs on your audio interface, or buy a two input audio interface if you don't already have one. If you want to record multiple tracks with the Osmose, you have to bounce each one to a wave file, which cannot be easily edited after it is bounced. The knobs and sliders on the Osmose felt flimsy. I could see them wearing out rather quickly. The controls on the Seaboard were of higher quality. The one way in which the Osmose beat the Seaboard was that it had a regular keyboard but with added capability. If you have played piano or keyboards before, you can instantly play the Osmose. (You do have to practice using the new dimensions of sound, however, that are not on a piano.) The Seaboard is not a keyboard at all, so you have to practice on it to learn how to play it. Having said that, I didn't have to practice very much on the Seaboard to learn how to play it, because the layout of the "keys" is similar to the layout of the keys on a piano and I know how to play piano.
Thanks a lot for sharing
Thank you!!
Awesome comparison! Thank you!
This is amazing!
You should have used the same sound patch for BOTH keyboards to see the difference.
Which of these two has a lighter touch? I dislike having to press hard to make a sound so if there's much difference there that may be enough to make the decision for me as to which to get
Personally, I think the patch you used for the Roli sounds more realistic, more expressive, but has a more soft tone that I prefer over the more "in your face" sound of the Osmose.
anyone help me ? i recently bought an expressive e osmose, and like it every much. so much i just purchased a software package from expressive e ( imagine and noise and some expansions in 1 package). To my surprise i don't like it at all. those soft synths are not MPE, or did i miss something ? ( im still figuring out how to use it all in logic, maybe i have a setting that i dint find yet. )BUT can I Use the Osmose to play with Roli's Equator 2 mpe synth ??? ive seen promotional videos of Expressive e that promote or feature the roli seaboard, but does it work the other way around too ? Osmose using the Role equator? or is it a tedious setup , re configuring every midi channel, function, controller? thanks a lot for any advice ....
Thank you for the comparison! I have a Roli but I'm still curious about the Osmose.
Bonjour , quel est le meilleur pour vous entre le osmose et le Roli ? Merci
отличная демонстрация 👏😀
I bought the roli out of these two. Am impressed how easy it is to do solos on. Easier than my standard keyboard.
Have you found bugs or similar? .
@@Donetur not the keyboard, but two of the software plug ins do not appear in logic which I am still trying to figure out why. That said I can do things with my songs that was very hard to donbefore.
@@Riktenstein I see. Thanks for your answer!.
A little concerning that Roli has gone bankrupt not once but twice! Wondering if support will be there. When I play the Roli I experience pain in my hands afterward and I know others who've experienced the same. Not sure if we're doing it wrong or if some of the gestures are just not ergonomic for humans, but these are two things to be aware of with the Roli.
I think roli has a smoother transition between notes, may because it's like a "Fretless" guitar
IT seems keying type changes the articulation input by your finger
I was expecting a comparison.
What's the name of that piece?
It is the "Badinerie" by J.S. Bach
I am curious which of the two you find more playable.
That's what I was seeking in a "VS" video as well.
I have a seaboard it seems to me the osmoses is easier to play and roll is more expressive
The roll is very hard to play at first it’s very easy to be off key that’s the biggest downside to it and there are no real keys it’s kinda one big fretboard in a sense
@@Jason50009Athank you so much. I’m still in doubt and before I choose for either Rise 2 or Osmose, I would really want to try them first. No store in The Netherlands who has them, so I will have to wait haha! The Block M also has my interest, because it’s way cheaper because of its size.
@@luucdentoom6955I've been battling this exact decision for ages and honestly I think I'm gonna go for Osmose E. I like that it is a whole onboard synth where each sound is modeled to the unique keybed. I find that more appealing than a slab that cost £1000 and required a laptop to use. Let me know which one u get.
Keep in mind that he is comparing the old Seabord against the new Osmose. With the Seabord 2 now open for pre-order we'll definetly start to get some more representative comparisons.
That is absolutely true, it is the old Seaboard Rise, I love this breath flute anyway
Any video comparisons available?
Nothing important is changed in Seaboard Rise 2, to be honest. Still the same thing with the new face. It's marketing. Ah, yes, USB type C... will definitely make a difference. Sarcasm.
the music does not highlight the seaboards multi dimensional sound capabilities.
More volume on the roli 🙌🏼 please
i'm really torn between the rise and the osmose. they both sound so versatile. which would you suggest to someone looking for adding more degrees of freedom to their composition writing?
That would be Seaboard. For the simple fact of it's full midi output
@@AMPProf What do you mean by "full midi output"? :)
The Seaboard is great and very intuitive!
@@NirHasonMPE
yoiu set up the Seaboard Rise 2 with a slightly darker tone.
because it's the black RISE 1
OMG, as a member of the vast family of players of actual acoustic instruments, on what planet is the Roli better than the Osmose?!?!…BTW, that was intended as a rhetorical question!…Good Lord!
Calm down, everyone's allowed their preferences.
Try polyphonic chord note gliding on Osmose. Or even simple legato note pitch gliding on a solo sound (legato glide from note to note)...
Not sure you need those keyboards to play that style of music. A bit of funk or rock and the expression is incredible on those things. 😎