How I Made A Multi Million Dollar Welding Business Before The Age Of 28 - Welding For Beginners
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- Do You Want To Learn The Secrets on How To Create a Profitable Welding business?
My name is Trevor and I want to share with you my secrets on how I created a multi million dollar successful welding business!
If you are looking to learn how to weld and would like to go through my course where I go step by step from never welding before to up and welding in no time click the link below to get our first lesson for FREE! ⬇️
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I was a 46 year old Business Manager with no business to manage; I was drinking too much and ready to throw my life away. Welding literally saved my life.
How cool is that?! Keep up the good work my friend!
I am a PhD Chemical Engineer and I hate working for the big pharmaceutical companies and its even worse everywhere else. I am starting a Mobile Welding/Fabrication along with Masonry restoration business. My best friend is a Master mason and a pretty good welder. We are restoring all the stone walls and flagstone patios on a 200 year old estate along with metal fences and railings. We started picking up vintage vending machines because his father owned a vending business and he is a whiz repairing the really cool old machines. We are just starting because 18 months ago I was run over by a F350 on my antique Harley and left for dead on the side of the road. I realized I want to be happy with what I am doing from here on out.
Sir how much investment in this business plzzzzzzzzzz tell
I'm glad you're still with us brother
@@angelmukesh4898 call a local community College or trade school to get an accurate answer. I've heard as much as 20,000 but it also depends on where you go
I’m 18 got my LLC and started my welding business, struggling now to just find time to sleep😂. So much contract work going on for welders I had to bring in a few friends of mine. Working on expanding to greater levels
Sleep is a struggle when you first start! It will get better over time! But good work! That’s a good problem to have for sure!
Very good! Working with soldering is a very good business. What city is your company in?
What exactly do you weld mostly for your clients?
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How can I get in contact with the fellow major respect
I am 34 years of Age,and i have just finished up with the welding course program,next on my list is now opening my own welding workshop....i still don't have much welding experience,but i feel so blessed with this video and it has given me hope too.
hey man, im 21 running social media and marketing at a vehicle conversion company but no real hands on skills. just looking to get into welding and fabrication how did you get your start? do you recommend doing just welding or is there any course that encompasses everything that you’d need to run your own workshop?
Man that is so wholesome to see how grateful you are while on your journey. It was positive, also motivation for any who may be a lil hopeless.. Thank you for your story brother!
Thank you for watching!
A wise person told me if I was going to be successful in business I should learn a trade and mature . You have matured fast. Another wise person told me you should not need to borrow money to start a business. If you have a skill and work hard you can build from the ground up. You will really know and appreciate it if you have all the experiences. Another wise person told me that many businesses fail due to cash flow. Managing cash flow is integral. It is the time tested key to being a business. I would say you have someone who manages the accounting. Few people are willing to take the risk. fewer people can endure the struggle without being over come. KUDOS to you and who ever is with you on this journey.
I retire from the military in about a year and I want to learn how to weld so bad I think it’s an awesome trade! Thank you for telling your story!
Yes sir! Thank you for your service and support!
personality in a person encourages confidence
I bought a welder and taught myself to weld by watching TH-cam. It has been a game changer in my hobby (automotive) and in my life doing jobs for others. Wish I would’ve dived in sooner (I’m 35 now).
That’s awesome! Good for you! It’s a game changer for sure. Better late than never!
What exactly you are now welding?
thank you. Dont know if ill learn welding, but i liked your story. Can tell you care a lot, you will definitely leave a mark on this world.
Thanks Connor, I appreciate the kind words.
dude I love what your doing for the world we need more competent people like you in this world, people like you are sadly very rare nowadays hope the best for you thx for the inspiration gunna be starting my own business soon as well
Thanks man! Good for you. I will probably be launching some business videos soon so stay tuned!
Thank you for sharing. My dad taught me, so there was no formal education. But, I always find people who need things fixed or made.
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing.
I been a welder since high school and have had the same blessing as you. Times will get tough but you always have something to fall back on and then rebuild. I'm getting back on the horse and starting a welding company again after some tough times. This time I got a bus I'm riggin up with all my tools and welder.
Yes sir! I love it. Keep going strong my friend!
I admire this brother. He is a) humble b) informative c) Full of faith and most of all d) driven. May God bless this brother and all that he lays his hands on 🙏🏽 What a GREAT SPIRIT he has!
Thank you for the awesome comments!
congrats on your journey! I enjoyed your story. I started my journey over a year ago. Went to school. Got a job in production making cattle chutes. Then moved into ventilation systems. Learned alot and enjoyed alot. I also have a bit of experience in business so I was hoping to eventually discover something during this journey that I could possibly get into. I currently just lost my ventilation job and currently looking for new opportunities and I am really seeking maybe get into business with welding but since I am a city boy. Its harder to get permit and permission because of the noise cant just work in the yard. So I need to look into getting a small shop for starting or just get a welder and a truck like you. But ideally I'd like to either start to do custom sub contract work to build it up to manufacturing. I think thats where my passion is taking me.
Thank you! You can do it my friend. Just keep pushing forward everyday!
That’s awesome. My story is similar but in Woodworking. I am just becoming interested in welding and came across your channel. There are no coincidences. I’m looking forward to learning a lot here
That’s awesome Brian! Love to hear of people succeeding in life! We will have to chat sometime.
I took a wielding class in college 20 yrs ago. Although I don't weld, I appreciate having the skill if I need to use it. I'm a network engineer.
Yes sir! It's a great trade to know!
Love the story man it's really inspiring to hear I am just starting out in my wedding journey myself and I am really enjoying it so much its a amazing skill to have I hope to someday start a metal fabrication business to provide for my little family your story gives me hope that I 2 can make it work keep up the great work man glad to know that others have struggled and brought them selves back up with a amazing skill and determination
Our country needs more young people like this guy. Best to you and your family.
Thank you Paul!
Great story!
Thank you!
@@weldingbusinesssecrets a lot like myself, trust me I know all about the low times in business. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger and teaching others, passing on knowledge is a very fulfilling experience wish people helped people like that more often. Good luck!
I’m 31 and interested in becoming a welder in OKC. Can’t afford the $7000 for welding school and my high school didn’t offer any sort life skill classes.
Go apply at some local welding shops. There are lots in OKC. Start at the bottom and go in and work hard- at that point they would be happy to train you.
@@weldingbusinesssecrets Thank You ☺️. Do you know which positions I should be searching for? Do I just apply as a welder or should I try finding like janitor work at a welding shop to get my foot in the door? Thank you so much! All of the welder positions I have applied too so far requires 1-2 years of previous welding experience.
The thing you did not touch on at all; is the ability to charge the customer, the right amount of money for a project. This to me is the most difficult thing. You can be good in whatever field; welding, driving, construction, baking, photography, auto mechanic, writing, etc,… but it won’t succeed unless you can get paid the right amount. And saying things, like building stuff for your mom, and building things with your brothers, does not explain how you got money for doing those kinds of things. Sounds to me that you were extremely lucky in the beginning, and did indeed get tremendous assistance from others. Still tho, Good job! Keep it going. Because a lot of us got helped a lot too, and still failed.
This was my story on how it all started. It's not a step by step on how I created my business and how to charge customers. I'd say there was luck involved but it was also thousands of hours of hard work, treating people right, being honest, showing up everyday, learning and staying focused that lead my company to what it is today.
I am with you, I got tired of working out of town ,being gone all the time, having my shit stolen while I was out of town, cashed in my 401-k, payed the taxes and penalties started my own business, I had all the tools and skill been welding for almost 30 years, I hit the ground running things was going great, THEN one morning I could not get my breath.... now I am on disability!!!! but I am still a live,,, still pick up a little side work but still don't know how much to charge people I know... thinks for sharing . And I am sorry for rambling just wish I had his good luck
Love this!!
Thank you!!
That is fantastic story.
Thank you!
Great story! I feel the same and having the skills of welding and fabrication have allowed my family to do the things we love and so much more. I currently have a business in Southern utah akimber welding and super proud of what it has built for us and the relationships it has built. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Heck yes! Southern Utah is🔥
I'm a bit of an introvert. Would it be a good fit for me?
Woww...Am so happy for you'll...!! Please can you tell what basic equipment I would required to buy to start my own small workshop
It all depends on what you are wanting to do. There are thousands of machines and so it all comes down to what you do.
Great video, Trevor!
My buddy and I work for a company that is in the custom railing and custom office furniture business. We love what we do (he is the lead fabricator in our steel shop and I am in project management/installation), but with where the company is going and ownership not treating employees super well, we are in the conceptual stages of starting our own thing on the side while we still work full time. Our goal is to develop the side hustle into something full time so we can win back our time, do things we love, and make what we're worth so we can better take care of our families.
I would love to say running a business can win you time, give you the time to do what you love and make you what you are worth. At times it is quite the opposite. Right now you are an operator, once you become a business owner most, if not all of your waking moments will be spent working in the business. That is if you run a good business. It is NOT easy and not for the weak. I’ve given up everything I love to do in trade to grow my business. At times I don’t make any money but at times I do win and that’s when it is worth it. Don’t let the internet make you believe running a business is easy. It’s not by any means. But it is possible and it is a grind. Everyday. So be ready, it’s a drastic jump to go from operator to business owner.
@@weldingbusinesssecrets all of this is understood. I have a small business background and have worked in small businesses all my life. Getting screwed over by an employer who doesn't treat you well or truly wants what's best for you is worst than all the heartache and difficulty of being your own boss. You're giving them your time and the fruits of your labor are never recognized. Times this by 40-60 years and you have NOTHING to show for your body of work and what you have put in. The risk is worth it to me.
bro i’m 31 years old i work in the bio chem field making 60k i fractured my ankle 2 months ago playing soccer and the money has been so low trying to survive with the little money my medical leave has been paying I believe welding can change me and my family life I live in baltimore maryland the welding school is $4252 should i pay that to become a welder who will eventually own business
If money is tight I would recommend going to work for a welding shop and start at the bottom and eventually work your way up. Just let them know you strongly desire to be a welder and if you have the right attitude and work ethic they will train you for free. In my company we train anyone to weld with the right attitude starting on day one. That’s my two sense. Hope it helps!
I'm struggling with my small manufacturing business welding and cnc Machinery sometimes I feel lost and I don't wanna quit but its hard I hope it'll turn out well.
Just keep showing up everyday. Do good work and be honest.
@@weldingbusinesssecrets yes sir you bet.
Thanks for the great pointer.
@@rogerperez5352 no problem!
How do you find the jobs your doing is what I’m interested in finding out bud who do I call to find these jobs what company’s do I call I need work don’t care what it is need to weld
I have been blessed through welding and for about 30 years now I'm 54....
All I can say is I wish I started sooner
So out of curiosity, what is the name of the multi million dollar business? I’m curious to see what you guys build and sell, or services provided. Sounds pretty cool.
sounds pretty cool. in reality no have nothing behind, only winner is Lincoln, they make the welding machines...sorry, Greetings
Hi if you have looking any job orders or projects in Indian kindly refer me
Yes🔥 inspiration..
Thank you!
The look when he said “we had a truck and we had a welder” was serious!
Thank you for posting this video, i own a small welding business and did most everything my self from bidding to taxes and building the jobs, and it was extremely hard and seems like i could never make enough money ect no matter how hard i worked or how many hours i put in. i ended up needing help on a job and a friend sent over a guy who had just started his own small repair business and from there we started helping each other out on each others jobs, and things started getting more steady and a little easier. currently there are 3 of us and we are far from over the hill but it is so much better than going it alone, having other people with your same drive and passion and most importantly have different skills and talents than you do make business much easier. we often talk about getting into mfg but we still kinda struggle with how to do it. i have several ideas id like to produce but i am unsure how to patent them with out taking loans. its kinda refreshing to see someone who has been in a similar place and have made it over the hill, Congrats on your success and thanks for sharing your story
A welding machine is a money printer! Especially a mobile rig. I welded a bunch in highschool and went to welding school after that. But when i got out of welding school the pipeline crashed and the pipeliners took all the other welding jobs in my area. I ended up going to work with my dad at his framing and drywall company. Ended up getting comfortable there and have been there ever sense. I did purchase a mobile welding rig with the full intention of getting back to welding asap. But it didn’t go that way unfortunately. Im not passionate at all about drywall lol so every day is a drain for me. I hate it. But occasionally the opportunity to weld on a jobsite comes up and i get so into it and i make sure everything is perfect. I have come to realize that welding is what i do best and what im happy doing. I plan on making my own company and achieving my own success. I already have what i need. Its just hard moving away from stable income
Hi brother, I am also looking to open my own welding and fabrication business. I have a lot of experience in this area. You are from which city?
@@alibarbosasanto im in north texas
i have a welding machine , but no printing money.. i am waiting?
@@sigridqwq5198 go out and get some work. People pay good money if you have a mobile rig. I have been cleaning up on tractor bit repairs and fencing. Just gotta get your name out there. I got my first big fencing job, it was a big ass entrance for a long horn rancher. 7” posts and 5 runs of 2 7/8 1/4” wall pipe. Did that shit all my myself and people kept seeing me working driving by and stopping to get my info. Now i keep getting repair calls and stuff. Just gotta get out there and work your ass off then you build a reputation. Repairs are the best for me because im $150 an hr with a 1 hr minimum. So if it takes me 15 minutes im still getting $150. If you really want it then take it serious. I have learned that reputation is everything. I didn’t make that much on that big fence but it has kept paying because of the word of mouth and the rancher wants me on atleast 2 other projects. He actually had a different welder but he got booked up so he gave me a shot and now im his welder for when he needs things. Just keep plugging away and that welder will make you a shit load
Starting with money . Makes it 10,00 x easier
It can unless you don’t understand money and finances.
what a nice guy, i've been working as a assistant to this older welder. The guy is miserable. grumpy all the time and won't teach me anything. Fortunatly the owner allow me to pratice with the company tig welder. i practice it during my breaks and lunches, slowly my welds are starting to look decent. in a year or 2 i'm gonna leave and find a company with nicer people to learn from.
It’s always good to work around good people! It’s quite miserable working around nasty people. Life is to short, don’t let that guy ruin your days.
what do you need to run a wielder out of a truck. what forms of advertisement did you use.
We needed a generator big enough to power our mig welder. At first it was all word of mouth. Now we do a lot of paid advertising.
I've been welding since 2018 and have a diesel but no machine and want to run a welding business so bad
Work hard and stay focused. You can do it.
Thanks man keep it up
You should start small buy a flux core welder and later on you can buy a multi process one
@Will Swift im not sure, I think plasma cutting will come on its own
YOU SOUND LIKE MY FIRST BODD, " DON IMUS " ON THE RADIO, THE REST IS WELL LOOKUP IMUS!!!!!! INTERESTING AND A FANTASTIC GUY!!!! JUST SUBBED!
Been there, done that. Started a Heavy Duty Truck Repair business on a unemployment check in 1981 due to the Ronald Regan recession of fighting inflation. What you are saying about having a skill is right on as to being able to have stability and security as to providing for a family. I am only a service not a manufacture as you hence a vast difference in wealth. But your message as to acquiring skills which can't be outsourced would make Mike Rowe proud.
That’s awesome. Keep up the good work! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@weldingbusinesssecrets You too!!!
Nice! Welding started my career. What's the name of your business and what products do you manufacture?
Same! It’s been a blessing of a trade that’s for sure! We manufacture horse and livestock equipment. My company is called Seven Peaks Fence and Barn.
its a secret, only militaery stuff, like minirockets... sorry
Sure......and thats why ever welder I knew had a drinking problem......I want documented invoices before I believe a word of it.
I don’t drink. And I have thousands and thousands of invoices. Wouldn’t be worth my time showing you all them. I don’t make money showing people invoices, I make money working.
I took a cnc course at a local vocational school. We were training right next to the welders . They even had some female welders in the class. I was thinking about signing up for the welding class next for $5000. I am 61 years old
Sounds a expensive for a welding class. What exactly are you trying to accomplish with a welder?
@@weldingbusinesssecrets - Just learn how to do it. I haven't got the electrical panel to install an electric welder.
@@weldingbusinesssecrets they have diesel fuel and cnc courses that cost the same. Career classes
How good would you feel about walking into a cnc shop after the course and asking for a job?
@@tbugofficial It's been a few months since I touched a cnc machine. I have seen jobs where they offer to train you. I suppose I could do it. I used to maintain printers onsite. A printer job is one of the few I can walk onto a site confident and ask for work.
Looking for welding works, 3 welders are, they re out of works, is there recession going on in toronto around in ontario? Is the war keeping us living dead trap? we do railing, doors, garden design, fences, gayes, bracket of custom designs. Parts, auto, and special projects. Now almost 1 - 2 jobs with small qty. Anyone can help us, in this regards.
Hey bud don’t know how to get a hold of you but my biggest problem with welding is finding work I just opened up my own welding shop and I have problems selling the things I build and can’t find work to do I shouldn’t have to beg people to give me work you’d think run a add and they’d call you I’m starting out building trailers on a moth going to start there so if you have any ideas on finding work please let me know love what you do keep it up brother thanks
It's AMAZING how GOD THE FATHER blesses us, opens doors that we have no idea are going to be opened.
Agreed my friend!
I started welding as a hobby! I tough myself. I learned a lot from family and friends in the business. During my career, I was involved in a head on collision with a drunk driver. I was seriously injured, forcing me to make some life changes...
Thank God, the organization I was employed with was willing to relocate me and give me the welding shop!
The top boss knew I had the skills needed. I can't tell you how happy I am for learning a SKILL!!
Great story! And good work!
I’m inspired, I’m 23 and I’ve been doing welding since childhood I’ve experience tho buh I’m starting a business and I need partners.
one welder can't die hunger🎉🎉🎉🎉
I have experience welding but how can I learn the fabrication part? Cutting and all that. Measuring and etc
The same way you learned to weld… by doing it.
Hi sir can you help me 🙏
The skilled trades are truly a dying breed....Teach all you can 👍😁
Thank you sir!
Eggsallent video!!! I love your honesty in your story. It's very similar to mine but I'm just now starting to get the ball rolling on the business side. I'm super excited and greatful.
May you and your business continue to be abundant 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Thank you! I hope you find great success as well!
Not an American but think you nailed it, the focus on going to college to succeed is wrong. I'm in a trade and it's worked for me
Yes sir! I know a very very successful people that didn’t spend a day in a college classroom that make millions every year.
you are very intelligent....like B. Gates, but you need your own WINDOWS, no more... Greetings
I have just did the same thing a month ago I was laid-off and already had a welding machine but I been welding for 15 years and I have always wanted my own business...So a month ago I took my last 500$ and started my welding company Carolina Welding Kingz LLC and so far have completed one job. But my question is how can I get more work..o feel free to look me up.And please keep making videos cause it has given me hope....
What I would tell you is market hard, do great work, treat people very well and you will always stay busy.
Hello, how you business is doing now? I'm 41 years old welder thinking about own business
i can weld pipe read prints do exotic metals TIG, stick, mig, brazing basicley do whatever you put Infront of me 2 years of welding school i make $25/hr custom building and repairing radiators i dont know who i pissed off but i must be doing something wrong
Someday you'll really regret not paying $500,000 to test your ability to memorize Cliff's Notes.
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@@weldingbusinesssecretscollege degree. Lol
@@weldingbusinesssecretshe’s making fun of college lol
Great story. Always nice to hear someone who made it through dedication passion and hard work, and still have both feet on the ground.
Hey thank you! That means a lot! I appreciate the kind words.
I should do a story how I ended up 30 and do nothing but sleep all day
There’s more to life than sleeping all day.
Would you have done it without your brother ?
I would have. I don’t think I would of grown as fast without them though.
Start with money everything else is easy when you love it
I enjoy these videos but,
1. Are you a paper millionaire?
2. Was a large portion of your money taken up by insurance, bonds, training and employees?
3. Was your net income at the end of the year, additional expenses included, over $300,000?
I would like to know is this information is transparent or if somethings are being left out.
how can i reach out to you i really would appreciate your help please.
What do you need help with?
The secret is there are no secrets. Just hard work and experience. Where there is a will there is a way. Get hungry enough, and you will start to see things once thought impossible to be very appealing. In the end God makes a way where there once wasn’t.
Bet you had a great support system.
I do have a fantastic support system!
Great video brother.
Thanks for the encouragement!
Thanks Chris! I appreciate the support! Do great!
Curious why dub the $400 part? Anyone else notice?
Yep, $400. You heard it right.
How do you bring in manufacturing clients?
anyone else catch the voice over at 5:00 ?
No voiceover there. Don’t know what happened maybe my microphone wasn’t in sync🤷🏼♂️
Thank you for sharing your experiance, I am a migrant with manufacturing experiance, what do you recomend to me to start a business? I appreciate.
All his high school classmates that went to college and now bump around from job to job making less than he is and is working for somebody else. My nephew did the same thing.
I do strongly believe in learning, that’s how we grow. But yes, no college here.
Absolutely loved this video. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Jake!
Fantastic story for people that don’t know any better. No question that welding is a great trade as that I have a bachelor’s degree in manufacturing and numerous certifications for many different areas of welding. Chances of making it to a million dollar welding business in completely unrealistic. If you want be successful in that industry I would suggest getting all your certifications and college degree in science, engineering is more realistic in this world because only hard work and determination pays off. Great introductory video on the subject!
You must be the type of person that needs certifications and degrees for validation. Most of these guys do not. It would be great if people like yourself. Would stop trying to crush others. Good luck as an employee.
Man im working to get my business started. Luckily the company im with now understands that and supports my vision
Are you still teaching people how to weld?
RESPECT 👍
Thank you!!
This is such a great video. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Do you give consultations as to tell business welding owners what fields of welding has the most money in it and how to pursue it ?
@9:25 Sums up the "real" reason why his company was successful. A genuine desire to help people. Heart is wealth.
Thank you for the kind comment!
Thanks for encouraging others like me
I just set up a small workshop at my garage in Cameroon Africa.
How cool! Keep up the good work.
can i have a email? I am a young welder and entrepreneur and I am looking for a mentor
It is in the "about" section on the page!
Thank you for telling your story
Thanks for watching!
Nice Video brother very inspiring
Thank you!
Cool story. What sort of welding did you learn? Eg. Mig, stick, Tig ?
I’ve learned mig, tig and stick but mainly do mig welding in our manufacturing business.
Can you tell me where your business is please? Im a welder
I have a location in Fort Worth, Texas and Phoenix, Arizona.
@@weldingbusinesssecrets okay thanks for ur response bro !!! I live in UK right now
@@weldingbusinesssecrets okay thanks for ur response bro !!! I live in UK right now
Love u story I'm a welder just come to the us to live want to start my own business
That’s awesome! Good for you!
Where is your welding workshop? I mean which city
I have a shop in Phoenix, AZ and a shop in Fort Worth, TX.
Awesome dude! very inspirational for people like me who are learning to be welders for the first time.
Thanks man! Keep up the good work.
Boy u look sad ...an intermittent smile (except at the last second) would have kept me hooked...
I’m not trying to keep you hooked. Just telling my story as it is.
that "four hundred dollars to our name" voice over was classic
Glad you like it! I had $1000 and had to buy a $600 generator to run my welder. Accidentally did the math wrong and said $300😂
thank you
Thank you!
Obviously it’s a pay for it type situation
I am a welder age 39. Until now I didn't make any money. I don't how I become a success businessmen in welding field in india
I’m unsure of the India market as I’m in the U.S.
What a great dream you followed and purpose. How people should take your life example.
Thank you! I appreciate the kind comment!
Hi bro am Daniel i need a job am professional in welding but i dont have any capital to start my own so if incase any opportunity i will like work with you
Where are you located?
I’m making a jump into welding now at 28. A little background I got out the army and police wants me but idk about going that route so college and welding..seems like good money now and there’s a very high demand here in Houston Tx..I would like to travel weld after a while tho
Good for you! There’s a big need for welders in Texas so you won’t have a problem finding work that’s for sure!
I am welder I want welding job
im sure your parents had nothing to do with it lol
No, they did. They taught me how to work hard and treat people right.
I’m on this path right now three years on my own grinding to earn that breakout of what I would consider success. For me it was surrounding myself with people through my talent’s. having a friend that owns a construction company helped me I stepped in and started repairing all their broken stuff with quality and efficiency spread to hey I know a guy that needs this or needs that after countless hours working nights and weekends I was able to make the jump and leave my old job. I also rooted myself in a niche doing heavy equipment repair(there’s very few around that do it and less that do it right) it takes time or just meeting the right person but I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I love this! Good work man! Keep working hard! It’ll pay off!
@@weldingbusinesssecrets thank you