Nicholas Coleman I wish we had damage meters / numbers with successful kills... For all encounters... If they can show us the numbers when we wipe, why not shows us on success?
Datto I need to criticize your critique of dragons shadow for pvp. I noticed in all your clips that in pvp you were playing gun slinger. Dragons shadows power goes down significantly if you are not playing as night stalker and using way of the trapper. With that set up you're are always dodging and going invisible and it is fantastic for flanks, or being aggressive. The invisibility with the ability lasts about 3 seconds, and with dragons shadow you can really make the best of those seconds with the speed bonus. The difference really is noticeable and they are great for trials. Just wanted to say that because mtashed made a review on dragons shadow and just like you he was also using gun slinger and gave it a poor review.
Nathan Watch i prefer CoolGuy reviews for Hunter PvP exotics. Datto has stated as much that he is more of a PvE person. CoolGuy breaks them down really good and is an amazing PvP player
I think it definitely comes down to play style and I very much like this exotic for the nightstalker in pvp. Being an aggressive player with an aggressive load out makes it seem a lot better. I mean anything can be viable if one is using it and it fits their play style right? But I feel you, definitely not as beneficial on the other two sub classes.
They ruined Young Ahamkara's Spine and Sunbracers. These have no reason to not grant 2 grenades like in D1, because Starfire Protocol gives 2 Fusion Grenades AND automatically gives you your rift back with a Fusion Grenade kill. It's a better exotic in every way.
except that fusion grenades are bad this time around and solar is very good. Tripmine needs a better damage cone and yeah the skull gauntlets need some TLC
The reason you're not using Tripmines as...mines Is because Bungie ruined them with the damage nerf. What's the point of a trap if it won't finish its job?
Hunters still being the only class without a 1 hit kill ability Id be very happy with they made the spines stick to players again and kill them then, I miss my unicorns...
Honestly hunter is underwhelming as a class and it baffles me that the striker titan is faster by a longshot than the arcstrider a sublclass based on acrobaticas and mobility
Apothecary2 except hunters need an exotic to do that. Titans have a perk that extends duration of FoH on kills. They also have two perks on the other tree that contribute to overall damage a lot.
Nowhere near enough to even come close to competing with a raiden flux arcstaff. There is a reason the strategy for the Arms Dealer boss is just rush him with arcstaff.
Datto, you completely forgot to mention that Orpheus Rig also recharges your grenade and melee energy for each enemy tethered. (It might also recharge your dodge, but I don't dodge enough to notice :/)
Datto, about the Dragon's Shadow with dodging, the Focused Breathing perk on the Arcstrider subclass shortens the dodge cooldown while you're sprinting. So, ideally, dodge once, hose down an enemy, sprint to enemy spawn, dodge again, teamwipe. Mind, it doesn't always go that way.
A great setup that let's me enjoy pvp a lot more bc i can be a lot more aggressive is Shadow dragon chest with sondok, 200 rpm energy scout, night stalker with top skill tree, reload dodge, 3 ability cooldown mods, and 2 melee mods.
Stomp EE5 do improve your triple jump....... In PvP they are really good for aggressive players. What they do with triple jump is boost you forward quicker, it doesnt boost you up into the air higher, but moving forward or backward it gives u a great boost speed, It also increases your slide distance, i cant remember if you said that :p lol
yeh the stomp EE5 do make your triple jump higher for example just yesterday i couldn't make a high jump but I put on the stomp EE5 and I made the jump no problem but I could have been because it made my mobility higher bc I'm an 8 or 9 resilience hunter
watching multiple clips of several exotics that insanely increase a guardian's power, remembering the salt on r/DTG about "mah gurdien dunt feel powurfle enuf bungo plz" Yeah, we seem so weak now, totally.
Interesting note: Orpheus rig's ability regeneration also works if you shoot a tether then switch subclass. Once you change over, anything that is snagged by the tether will grant energy for that subclass, provided you still have the boots equipped
Arc Strider, Way of the Warrior + Gambler's Dodge + Dragon's Shadow Dodging near enemies recharges Melee [Combination Blow] & increases your melee range [Deadly Reach]. Melee Kills recharge Dodge, trigger health regeneration and increase your melee damage. PLUS Dragon's Shadow In PvE you can kill just about everything with melee strikes and have Shadow running full time. It's especially good with slow [low handling] weapons like the Legend of Acrius and High Impact frame weapons in general
Way of the Warrior doesn't get enough love. Even without this exotic, Gambler's Dodge + Way of the Warrior = Constant Health Regen, 2nd Best Melee Range in Game, and Bonus Damage.
The lucky pants are actually really good if used correctly. Your meant to use a weapon to get a guardian's shield down or lower then quickly swap to a hand cannon and finish them off. If used with a 450 auto or 200 scout and swap to a 110 cannon like true prophecy it will lower your ttk since they have such high damage and your almost guaranteed go hit your first shot with the boost to accuracy. The weapon swap is so fast you can swap and get a shot off quicker than some weapons fire. You can also use this with better devils and it works great also, but my fav is using with a 110, either true prophesy or asamuth(blue will kill clip don't know exactally how it's spelled) because they shoot so slow and if you don't hit all crits they can be punishing so you get a 2-3 shots with a scout in or break shield with a 450 auto(number is the best or positive will kill clip) then swap and fire and they are dead instantly. Learning to use these the correct way makes them very good, I would rate them a 3.5-4 for pvp, shit for pve but if not used in this way they're not that good.
Orpheus Rig gives all ability energy, not just super energy. It's my favorite hunter exotic by far. You can chunk your grenade and smoke bomb, then tether enemies and get all grenades and your super back. It's amazing.
dumb question... do lucky pants apply to when you activate golden gun? It would be nice if it increased ready speed or whatever so you could shoot quicker from activation. If not, they should totally do that.
2 Exotics I desperately want... Celestial NightHawk & Orpheus Rig (see what Xur has to offer tomorrow). Great toob as always & thanX for all 3 class Tier Lists
Hey Datto great breakdowns! I only have one slight adjustment towards your explanation of Orpheus Rig. Saying its comparable to Skull is okay but they are more like my fave exotic helm for void in D1 that hasn't made a return yet. Obsidian Mind. I used them on many runs of Crows during the abyss section every 10 kills with nova bomb would completely recharge your super. Everything else you said is 100% lol I do hope they bring back my fave exotic 😂
Just a further sell for Orphius Rig, it replenishes ALL your abilities so grenades and smoke/vanish grenade as well as dodge replenish instantly with about 4 tethers i believe. Thanks for this Datto. Great vid as usual
ST0MP EE5 + Quickfang is trololo in pvp. When you jump they lose track of you, position yourself to land near them then swipe! Also, I love general patroling with that combo; you run fast, jump high and look like a badass ninja.
I don't know if you've corrected for this anywhere, but lucky pants also returns a shot to the mag of a stowed handcannon on precision hits with other weapons.
Stompies does work with triple jump, space out the jumps until each jump reaches its peak before jumping again. I use these for some raids to reach advantageous high ground easier
Ophida Spathe is a fantastic exotic chest armor. Playing a gunslinger it's nice having two throwing knives. It's great in PvP when you've killed two or three opponents and you run out of ammo on the fourth. Instead of losing time and damage from having to reload, you can chuck a couple of knives. They may expect one knife but they're always surprised by the second. I'm usually a really conservative, defensive player but even with that play style it's a great exotic. I can't even count how many times having that extra knife has saved my ass. Add in the fact that it cuts the regen time on you're solar abilities and make sure you have two other pieces of armor that do the same and you'll almost always have a knife or grenade at your disposal.
@Datto Lucky Pants also allow you to fire instantly from a sprint with handcannons. Try it out. Full sprint and just fire, dont even have to let go of your sprint key. Thats the other main bonus that makes them fun to use in PvP
He thinks stompees are bad? Every hunter ive seen has had a stompees in inv, and its because its an actually good hunter exotic, triple jump is good but getting an even higher jump is perfect, remember that hunters are usually fast and spry? Its because hunters are made for parkour and being fast, and stompees are amazing when you dont want orpheus, raiden, or other exotics on. I personally use it even when i could be using something else that has a possibility of helping alot, but thats a possibility, unlike stompees Bones tho... those were breathtaking
Need to do a video on if there are actual benefits of agility, resilience, and recovery. Saw a video that said the only one that mattered was recovery.
the Mida Multi-tool has the radar up when ADS as well. so that's the only other place that the knucklehead radar is replicated. it is only when using the one gun, however.
There is an unlisted affect of the Dragons shadow that gives greatly increased reload speed. Try night stalker way of the trapper with anteope-d and at least two class ability cool-down mods. The combo of near instant reloads plus kill clip is awesome for aggressive players. It can also be fun to use quickfang with this if you dodge right before rounding a corner that you know there are enemies around, the added move speed is helpful for closing in on them while they still don't have aim assist on you. Also I would suggest using gamblers dodge because it helps with being evasive if outnumbered and using marksman's dodge will not activating kill clip on the anteope-d if you dodge after a kill.
Dragon's Shadow reloads all weapons, not just your current on Dodge, even if you don't have that perk set in your subclass. So effectively, if you set it properly, you also get your melee back. It displays "Wraithmetal Mail" when you activate it, so you know when it's bonus to speed is active. Spectacular with long loader weapons, such as machine guns. I never used my dodge before this item. Now it's a constant thing, to the point that I accidentally activate my class abilities with my other classes while trying to reload.
actually datto, that have actually happened to me! one arcstrider with that chest wiped the floor with my team. also, if it havent been patched already, there is actually a glitch where the foretracer can increase a nighthawk's damage by 30%!
What I do for the Raid is when we run the Gauntlet, I slap on my St0mp-E55, equip the MIDA set (MIDA-Muli and Mini Tool), and Nightstalker for extra mobility. All in all I get my Mobility up to a 9 and maybe 10 if I tweak it just a bit more. It is a good exotic for that portion but then I just switch to my usual loadout when it is done.
I would love to see you test mechaneer's tricksleeves with the rat king exotic sidearm. I'm interested to see if the rat king buffs stack with it. If anyone else is interested, please upvote this comment so Datto sees.
While I agree with Datto about Raiden Flux Arc Staff is good for ad clearing, I think I would give Orpheus Rig a little bit of an edge when it comes to ad clearing, because what people don’t notice most of the time is that tether in D2 has blood bound, assuming you’re using the top tree, which means that you only have to kill a couple of tethered enemies even if shitaloads of them are tethered. It comes in handy and stays active significantly longer than it used to be back in D1
As a fresh lvl 20 doing Iron Banner with level advantage enabled means it takes two Golden Gun shots to kill a target, losing the value of orb generation. Using Celestial Nighthawk lets me delete any player at will, in a gamemode where it takes eight melee hits to kill
Can you make a new tier list or add the exotics we received post-CoS patch? I am curious what your take on gemini jester compared to exotics like foetracer.
i just realized this coming back but arc strider isn't that bad. if you run the top tree where, after dodging, you get extended male rang and you follow up with a heavy attack (R2) then you have double the range you normally would. Its hella fun and its quick attacks and armor allows you to go toe to toe with another roaming super.
Foetracer can be ok in PVE but I consider it a situational exotic at best, I would still recommend folks carry an exotic that benefits their class more (like celestial nighthawk) than once you have used your super switch over to foetracer. Works pretty well in escalation protocol, and while the bosses there are not crazy bullet sponges you really have nothing to lose by swapping to it for the added damage. Kinda like nezarecs sin for the warlock to gain super energy than switching over to skull of dire ahamkara right before you use your super to gain energy back. Foetracer has something to offer in PVE but it's not really meant to be used religiously in PVE content.
You didn't even test the better control jump with the Stomp-EE5. They boost your horizontal mobility while at the same time jumping as high as the higher jump option which is wayyy better than lack luster triple jump imo.
As my main and only character I play on in Destiny 2, I have only really used the Raiden Flux with the skill tree that awards you Deadly Reach after dodging cause it will give you a flurry of attacks really quick melting most bosses in the time it takes for your super to wear off. I wear the Stomp EE5 in public spaces cause I go faster but that is about it. Pairing them with the Mida is a neat combo i have tried as well. I don't have as much time to devote to this game as I did with D1 so I only have one character maxed.
Wraithmetal is amazing for the poledancer subclass. Bc u get infinite dodges while in the super you can get insane speed plus damage reduction like crazy.
Datto, I RESPECTFULLY dissagre on your opinion on the "Stomp-ee5". The stompies allow you to both RUN AND JUMP faster, along-side the jump boost. I ussually use this to flank the oppisition and run to cover at times where I would normally be shot down, and, when paired up with quickfang, it allows you to hunt and chase the other team down. You can also use it to slide WAYYY farther than before, which is good for catching the other team off-guard.
Honestly, for PvP, just run a restorative armor set all the way through with at least 2 class ability recharge mods if you are running Nightstalker with the vanishing dodge. Mida gives you the "knucklehead radar" effect on your kinetic weapon, and weapons with fast handling in general make up for not using the Dragon's Shadow. Restorative Hunter chest pieces give you more recovery than any of their exotic chest pieces, which is SORELY needed for Hunters in PvP, as their restorative leg armor is still bugged to not have any recovery at all without a recovery mod. As for PvE, I recommend Orpheus Rig because you don't have to get up close to ads for your Super and damaged is shared between tethered ads. Arcstriders can do big damage, but they have no health regen like the Bladedancers used to have. Let the Stormcallers or even the Strikers do the lightning-based mass damage.
What's up man I was just wondering if you know if you had to spend your gunsmith materials and faction tokens before season 2 comes out I heard everything gets reset is that true?
Orpheus affects all of your abilities lol yes you need your super but the full charge you grenade n melee to and you can use the bottom block just don't grab quiver node
I made the mistake of getting that final perk (still regret it lol) does the lower path tether without quiver have the same range as the upper path or is it slightly less?
If you run raider flux with the way of the warrior, dodging between targets gets you double the hits, meaning double the effectiveness of the super, but of raider flux as well, since it relies on hits for its perk.
Lucky Pants and Mechaneer's Tricksleeves should be one exotic.
Ninja Pups that would finally make them useful
Ninja Pups imagine that plus sturm and drang
Mechaneers trick pants
I wear the pants anyway lol. Too dope to take off... Maybe that's why I'm left out of all raids? 😂😂😂😂😂 "Lucky Me" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I see those sturm plays
Every time I do Calus with my clan, and I have optimal DPS, I can feel the Presence of Datto and his approval.
Nicholas Coleman I wish we had damage meters / numbers with successful kills... For all encounters... If they can show us the numbers when we wipe, why not shows us on success?
I wouldn't know that feeling, I'm stuck with LFG fucktards....
I've never done the raid my clan is small
OPTIMAL DPS
Hell yeah.
This is my favorite series that you have made. Awesome job man.
Datto I need to criticize your critique of dragons shadow for pvp. I noticed in all your clips that in pvp you were playing gun slinger. Dragons shadows power goes down significantly if you are not playing as night stalker and using way of the trapper. With that set up you're are always dodging and going invisible and it is fantastic for flanks, or being aggressive. The invisibility with the ability lasts about 3 seconds, and with dragons shadow you can really make the best of those seconds with the speed bonus. The difference really is noticeable and they are great for trials. Just wanted to say that because mtashed made a review on dragons shadow and just like you he was also using gun slinger and gave it a poor review.
Nathan Watch i prefer CoolGuy reviews for Hunter PvP exotics. Datto has stated as much that he is more of a PvE person. CoolGuy breaks them down really good and is an amazing PvP player
Yeah dragon shadows lit asf in my opinion. I only ever use it with nightstalker
i agree
Dragons shadow is trash... don't try to make it seem otherwise, or else bungie will continue to make garbage exotics like this
I think it definitely comes down to play style and I very much like this exotic for the nightstalker in pvp. Being an aggressive player with an aggressive load out makes it seem a lot better. I mean anything can be viable if one is using it and it fits their play style right? But I feel you, definitely not as beneficial on the other two sub classes.
I love how you don’t inherently say something is bad but rather explain what the exotic is good for and when it’s less favorable
Finally, I've been waiting for so long, I've always been a hunter main, but I've got more adjusted to a warlock now
They ruined Young Ahamkara's Spine and Sunbracers. These have no reason to not grant 2 grenades like in D1, because Starfire Protocol gives 2 Fusion Grenades AND automatically gives you your rift back with a Fusion Grenade kill. It's a better exotic in every way.
Logan Stewart how often are you using fusion nades? Or Dawnblade in general.
except that fusion grenades are bad this time around and solar is very good. Tripmine needs a better damage cone and yeah the skull gauntlets need some TLC
Fusions cant even one shot in PvP when they attach.... they really are worthless in there.
Logan you're absolutely right. Bungie always favors warlocks. No one even uses tripmines; two of them would not be OP at all.
Logan Stewart it sucks
The reason you're not using Tripmines as...mines
Is because Bungie ruined them with the damage nerf. What's the point of a trap if it won't finish its job?
Hunters still being the only class without a 1 hit kill ability Id be very happy with they made the spines stick to players again and kill them then, I miss my unicorns...
Lucky Pants should get the "funniest lore" award
Absolutely
Honestly hunter is underwhelming as a class and it baffles me that the striker titan is faster by a longshot than the arcstrider a sublclass based on acrobaticas and mobility
DaddyCantStop dont forget that striker titans kill in an area from a bit of range while hunters have to go meele range
Yeah it doesn't make sense but does it matter when Arcstaff lasts so much longer and deals so much more damage?
Apothecary2 except hunters need an exotic to do that. Titans have a perk that extends duration of FoH on kills. They also have two perks on the other tree that contribute to overall damage a lot.
Nowhere near enough to even come close to competing with a raiden flux arcstaff. There is a reason the strategy for the Arms Dealer boss is just rush him with arcstaff.
Apothecary2 he’s referring to the PvP side, in PvE it’s perfect
Exotic weapons tier list!!! Even if it's just a Google doc. Also, good work on this vid 😁
Datto, you completely forgot to mention that Orpheus Rig also recharges your grenade and melee energy for each enemy tethered.
(It might also recharge your dodge, but I don't dodge enough to notice :/)
Yeah it does 👍 recharges all abilities.
yeah the description says ability energy... I believe that means ALL abilities
Datto, about the Dragon's Shadow with dodging, the Focused Breathing perk on the Arcstrider subclass shortens the dodge cooldown while you're sprinting. So, ideally, dodge once, hose down an enemy, sprint to enemy spawn, dodge again, teamwipe. Mind, it doesn't always go that way.
A great setup that let's me enjoy pvp a lot more bc i can be a lot more aggressive is Shadow dragon chest with sondok, 200 rpm energy scout, night stalker with top skill tree, reload dodge, 3 ability cooldown mods, and 2 melee mods.
Stomp EE5 do improve your triple jump....... In PvP they are really good for aggressive players. What they do with triple jump is boost you forward quicker, it doesnt boost you up into the air higher, but moving forward or backward it gives u a great boost speed, It also increases your slide distance, i cant remember if you said that :p lol
yeh the stomp EE5 do make your triple jump higher for example just yesterday i couldn't make a high jump but I put on the stomp EE5 and I made the jump no problem but I could have been because it made my mobility higher bc I'm an 8 or 9 resilience hunter
It basically adds strafe jump onto triple
Man, I miss unnerfed Orpheus Rig...
"Datto, your eyes are red, how ya feeling bud?"
"Eh, a little high."
Bones is still the best hunter exotic.
Cubelious Frost-EE5 were the best in destiny imo
Orpheus rig and Borealis Bitch
Shut up dragon balls z weaboo
I know some cancerous Undertale fan isn't talking about Dbz.
Bones are the best
watching multiple clips of several exotics that insanely increase a guardian's power, remembering the salt on r/DTG about "mah gurdien dunt feel powurfle enuf bungo plz"
Yeah, we seem so weak now, totally.
Interesting note: Orpheus rig's ability regeneration also works if you shoot a tether then switch subclass. Once you change over, anything that is snagged by the tether will grant energy for that subclass, provided you still have the boots equipped
Arc Strider, Way of the Warrior + Gambler's Dodge + Dragon's Shadow
Dodging near enemies recharges Melee [Combination Blow] & increases your melee range [Deadly Reach].
Melee Kills recharge Dodge, trigger health regeneration and increase your melee damage.
PLUS Dragon's Shadow
In PvE you can kill just about everything with melee strikes and have Shadow running full time. It's especially good with slow [low handling] weapons like the Legend of Acrius and High Impact frame weapons in general
Jim Sturges No! Way of the wind
Way of the Warrior doesn't get enough love. Even without this exotic, Gambler's Dodge + Way of the Warrior = Constant Health Regen, 2nd Best Melee Range in Game, and Bonus Damage.
Jim Sturges That sounds like a great build, thanks!
15:03: A Nightstalker's Wet Dream
Really good video I liked how you discouraged a exotic and acknowledged it very good video
The lucky pants are actually really good if used correctly. Your meant to use a weapon to get a guardian's shield down or lower then quickly swap to a hand cannon and finish them off. If used with a 450 auto or 200 scout and swap to a 110 cannon like true prophecy it will lower your ttk since they have such high damage and your almost guaranteed go hit your first shot with the boost to accuracy. The weapon swap is so fast you can swap and get a shot off quicker than some weapons fire. You can also use this with better devils and it works great also, but my fav is using with a 110, either true prophesy or asamuth(blue will kill clip don't know exactally how it's spelled) because they shoot so slow and if you don't hit all crits they can be punishing so you get a 2-3 shots with a scout in or break shield with a 450 auto(number is the best or positive will kill clip) then swap and fire and they are dead instantly. Learning to use these the correct way makes them very good, I would rate them a 3.5-4 for pvp, shit for pve but if not used in this way they're not that good.
Keep in mind with the knucklehead radar it actually reveals chests, consumables and the like in PvE and I have been finding it quite useful there.
Orpheus Rig gives all ability energy, not just super energy. It's my favorite hunter exotic by far. You can chunk your grenade and smoke bomb, then tether enemies and get all grenades and your super back. It's amazing.
Young Ahamkara's Spine was so much better in Destiny 1.
0:57 Datto ruining a heroic event by dpsing the servitor too hard :p
GranitexUK They still killed the 3 ads I believe
naw, the nut when immune, if you push it below 40% too fast before the tri-nut phase it'll just stay normal.
GranitexUK Are you really calling a servitor a nut?
Yeah, I lovingly refer to all servitors as nuts, he was doing the nut prime event too.
Cast Bound I call them eyes
just what I needed to watch thanks
datto
FINALLY! As a hunter main I was starting to get worried. Thought you forgot about us..
I love Lucky Raspberry myself, when it gives you 4 nades in a row it makes it worthwhile in spite of the times it doesn’t work
Only reason I don't like orpheus rig is because they make the hunter look a bit chunky
dumb question... do lucky pants apply to when you activate golden gun? It would be nice if it increased ready speed or whatever so you could shoot quicker from activation. If not, they should totally do that.
i havent played a lot oh hunter, the jump and move speed on those stomp-ees was crazy to me
2 Exotics I desperately want... Celestial NightHawk & Orpheus Rig (see what Xur has to offer tomorrow). Great toob as always & thanX for all 3 class Tier Lists
Hey Datto great breakdowns! I only have one slight adjustment towards your explanation of Orpheus Rig. Saying its comparable to Skull is okay but they are more like my fave exotic helm for void in D1 that hasn't made a return yet. Obsidian Mind. I used them on many runs of Crows during the abyss section every 10 kills with nova bomb would completely recharge your super. Everything else you said is 100% lol I do hope they bring back my fave exotic 😂
So many award names, so little time... love it
Just a further sell for Orphius Rig, it replenishes ALL your abilities so grenades and smoke/vanish grenade as well as dodge replenish instantly with about 4 tethers i believe. Thanks for this Datto. Great vid as usual
Here is my only saving grace for the young spine, it’s one of the few pieces of hunter armor that doesn’t have mobility.
I want more Exotics like Dragon's Shadow that have high skill ceilings, ones that are better the better you are.
As somebody that has extensively used Drang ever since I got it, I will say that the Mechaneer's Tricksleeves do indeed work for me.
ST0MP EE5 + Quickfang is trololo in pvp. When you jump they lose track of you, position yourself to land near them then swipe! Also, I love general patroling with that combo; you run fast, jump high and look like a badass ninja.
I don't know if you've corrected for this anywhere, but lucky pants also returns a shot to the mag of a stowed handcannon on precision hits with other weapons.
It's not just super energy you get with Orpheus Rig, you get energy for every ability. You can see that in your video @15:00
Stompies does work with triple jump, space out the jumps until each jump reaches its peak before jumping again. I use these for some raids to reach advantageous high ground easier
Ophida Spathe is a fantastic exotic chest armor. Playing a gunslinger it's nice having two throwing knives. It's great in PvP when you've killed two or three opponents and you run out of ammo on the fourth. Instead of losing time and damage from having to reload, you can chuck a couple of knives. They may expect one knife but they're always surprised by the second. I'm usually a really conservative, defensive player but even with that play style it's a great exotic. I can't even count how many times having that extra knife has saved my ass. Add in the fact that it cuts the regen time on you're solar abilities and make sure you have two other pieces of armor that do the same and you'll almost always have a knife or grenade at your disposal.
@Datto Lucky Pants also allow you to fire instantly from a sprint with handcannons. Try it out. Full sprint and just fire, dont even have to let go of your sprint key. Thats the other main bonus that makes them fun to use in PvP
He thinks stompees are bad? Every hunter ive seen has had a stompees in inv, and its because its an actually good hunter exotic, triple jump is good but getting an even higher jump is perfect, remember that hunters are usually fast and spry? Its because hunters are made for parkour and being fast, and stompees are amazing when you dont want orpheus, raiden, or other exotics on. I personally use it even when i could be using something else that has a possibility of helping alot, but thats a possibility, unlike stompees
Bones tho... those were breathtaking
This was made 2 years ago so Bungie buffed them in that time span
@@FancyGonkBoi Stompes never got buffed
Waluigi They did
The rig gives you your grenades and smokes back if they are on cool down as well. Which is a nice benefit.
That arc bolt perk on lucky raspberry looks nice.
Great video
Still trying to get use to k/m but getting frustrated lol
Need to do a video on if there are actual benefits of agility, resilience, and recovery. Saw a video that said the only one that mattered was recovery.
the Mida Multi-tool has the radar up when ADS as well. so that's the only other place that the knucklehead radar is replicated.
it is only when using the one gun, however.
You don't get just super energy with Orpheus Rig, you get energy for every ability. You can see that in your video @15:00
There is an unlisted affect of the Dragons shadow that gives greatly increased reload speed. Try night stalker way of the trapper with anteope-d and at least two class ability cool-down mods. The combo of near instant reloads plus kill clip is awesome for aggressive players. It can also be fun to use quickfang with this if you dodge right before rounding a corner that you know there are enemies around, the added move speed is helpful for closing in on them while they still don't have aim assist on you. Also I would suggest using gamblers dodge because it helps with being evasive if outnumbered and using marksman's dodge will not activating kill clip on the anteope-d if you dodge after a kill.
@Datto, what are your thoughts on Shards of Ghalanor? You forgot that exotic in your tier list.
Lucky pants have been updated they now add one round to the chamber of stowed hand cannons for every precision shot hit
Dragon's Shadow reloads all weapons, not just your current on Dodge, even if you don't have that perk set in your subclass. So effectively, if you set it properly, you also get your melee back. It displays "Wraithmetal Mail" when you activate it, so you know when it's bonus to speed is active. Spectacular with long loader weapons, such as machine guns. I never used my dodge before this item. Now it's a constant thing, to the point that I accidentally activate my class abilities with my other classes while trying to reload.
"that is a little bit high" the new "rare blue quality sparrow" .
10:27 Is that a heavy shotgun? Which one?
Stompies are a lot of fun when used correctly, and they can be used well in pvp to disorient enemies. And best exotic to have fun wearing imo
actually datto, that have actually happened to me! one arcstrider with that chest wiped the floor with my team.
also, if it havent been patched already, there is actually a glitch where the foretracer can increase a nighthawk's damage by 30%!
Are you going to rank them according to neutral and subclass in the future? Because I think that would be useful
Giving my hunter the boost today....only been warlock.....stoked! Especially since stompees have been fixed
What I do for the Raid is when we run the Gauntlet, I slap on my St0mp-E55, equip the MIDA set (MIDA-Muli and Mini Tool), and Nightstalker for extra mobility. All in all I get my Mobility up to a 9 and maybe 10 if I tweak it just a bit more. It is a good exotic for that portion but then I just switch to my usual loadout when it is done.
I would love to see you test mechaneer's tricksleeves with the rat king exotic sidearm. I'm interested to see if the rat king buffs stack with it. If anyone else is interested, please upvote this comment so Datto sees.
when Datto stops shooting an enemy when someone else pops their super 😤👌
While I agree with Datto about Raiden Flux Arc Staff is good for ad clearing, I think I would give Orpheus Rig a little bit of an edge when it comes to ad clearing, because what people don’t notice most of the time is that tether in D2 has blood bound, assuming you’re using the top tree, which means that you only have to kill a couple of tethered enemies even if shitaloads of them are tethered. It comes in handy and stays active significantly longer than it used to be back in D1
Thx datto, this is awesome
Hey Datto what are you looking for in the new Curse of Osiris exotics and the new raid tiers?
Finallllyyyy Thank you Datto Watto.
As a fresh lvl 20 doing Iron Banner with level advantage enabled means it takes two Golden Gun shots to kill a target, losing the value of orb generation. Using Celestial Nighthawk lets me delete any player at will, in a gamemode where it takes eight melee hits to kill
1:10 damn datto how do i get that handcannon?
Can you make a new tier list or add the exotics we received post-CoS patch? I am curious what your take on gemini jester compared to exotics like foetracer.
YESS
I can die happy now.
Thanks Datto!!
Shoutout to that red bar
time stamp?
(12:16) that height boost lets you fall from the atmosphere on your enemies, scaring the shit out of them and screwing their ranks
i just realized this coming back but arc strider isn't that bad. if you run the top tree where, after dodging, you get extended male rang and you follow up with a heavy attack (R2) then you have double the range you normally would. Its hella fun and its quick attacks and armor allows you to go toe to toe with another roaming super.
Foetracer can be ok in PVE but I consider it a situational exotic at best, I would still recommend folks carry an exotic that benefits their class more (like celestial nighthawk) than once you have used your super switch over to foetracer. Works pretty well in escalation protocol, and while the bosses there are not crazy bullet sponges you really have nothing to lose by swapping to it for the added damage.
Kinda like nezarecs sin for the warlock to gain super energy than switching over to skull of dire ahamkara right before you use your super to gain energy back. Foetracer has something to offer in PVE but it's not really meant to be used religiously in PVE content.
How on earth was he able to throw a grenade like three times in a row as an arcstrider? at 10:00?
The young Ahamkaras spine should do those abilities for grenades in general. And it should give 2 grenade charges.
Lucky pants plus sturm and drang combo is nasty in pvp.
What's the kinetic he is using at 7:30?
What’s that cool looking hand cannon you were using?
RyGuy420 sunshot from campaign you can pick it from an option of 3 different guns its an energy weapon btw
Do you work for/with YourOverwatch?
You didn't even test the better control jump with the Stomp-EE5. They boost your horizontal mobility while at the same time jumping as high as the higher jump option which is wayyy better than lack luster triple jump imo.
As my main and only character I play on in Destiny 2, I have only really used the Raiden Flux with the skill tree that awards you Deadly Reach after dodging cause it will give you a flurry of attacks really quick melting most bosses in the time it takes for your super to wear off. I wear the Stomp EE5 in public spaces cause I go faster but that is about it. Pairing them with the Mida is a neat combo i have tried as well. I don't have as much time to devote to this game as I did with D1 so I only have one character maxed.
Foetracer + the Number = game over
and now lucky pants got changed to "Precision hits load one round to the chamber of stowed Hand Cannons"
I was doing a public event with four others using orphius rig doing the heroic glimmer drill public even...infinite supers for 3:00 minutes strait
nice review
Wraithmetal is amazing for the poledancer subclass. Bc u get infinite dodges while in the super you can get insane speed plus damage reduction like crazy.
Datto, I RESPECTFULLY dissagre on your opinion on the "Stomp-ee5". The stompies allow you to both RUN AND JUMP faster, along-side the jump boost. I ussually use this to flank the oppisition and run to cover at times where I would normally be shot down, and, when paired up with quickfang, it allows you to hunt and chase the other team down. You can also use it to slide WAYYY farther than before, which is good for catching the other team off-guard.
Honestly, for PvP, just run a restorative armor set all the way through with at least 2 class ability recharge mods if you are running Nightstalker with the vanishing dodge. Mida gives you the "knucklehead radar" effect on your kinetic weapon, and weapons with fast handling in general make up for not using the Dragon's Shadow. Restorative Hunter chest pieces give you more recovery than any of their exotic chest pieces, which is SORELY needed for Hunters in PvP, as their restorative leg armor is still bugged to not have any recovery at all without a recovery mod.
As for PvE, I recommend Orpheus Rig because you don't have to get up close to ads for your Super and damaged is shared between tethered ads. Arcstriders can do big damage, but they have no health regen like the Bladedancers used to have. Let the Stormcallers or even the Strikers do the lightning-based mass damage.
All I want is Last Word, is that so hard?
This man right here.
Ko Kuniyoshi Such a crutch weapon. I hope that they don't bring it back
Won’t work in d2, everyone plays like a pussy
Ko Kuniyoshi you kinda have it. Its a perk for golden gun, and it changes the look of it, which i just noticed not too long ago
Yes. Its a crutch
What's up man I was just wondering if you know if you had to spend your gunsmith materials and faction tokens before season 2 comes out I heard everything gets reset is that true?
Orpheus affects all of your abilities lol yes you need your super but the full charge you grenade n melee to and you can use the bottom block just don't grab quiver node
I made the mistake of getting that final perk (still regret it lol) does the lower path tether without quiver have the same range as the upper path or is it slightly less?
Angelic Demon Less range
Angelic Demon if you haven't gotten the other perks unlocked, you can still do so ( but I'm guessing you do )
It slightly less its still good enough to tether packs you know are coming and the orb gen is stupid full supers for teamates over and over stupid
Alright sweet guess i need a new hunter to try this out ugh speedrun time.
If you run raider flux with the way of the warrior, dodging between targets gets you double the hits, meaning double the effectiveness of the super, but of raider flux as well, since it relies on hits for its perk.
Hey Datto, Orpheus Rig also recharges your grenade and smoke bombs along with your super.
Lucky pants was changed now it fills back the magazine of a holstered Hand cannon for every precision hit.