Manipulation Masterclass: Analyzing How Jesse Was Manipulated in Breaking Bad

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    Jesse is seen as one of the most tragic characters in the history of television, as he is simply a young man that got caught up with some of the worst people to walk the face of the earth. In this video, we explore just exactly how these people manipulated and turned Jesse into a pawn in one of the most bloody chess games in all of television.
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  • @thedefinitiveopinion
    @thedefinitiveopinion  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Our latest video, analyzing Gus Fring!
    th-cam.com/video/-RqtN6j0Ya0/w-d-xo.html

  • @shybandit521
    @shybandit521 ปีที่แล้ว +1861

    I think part of what makes it all so tragic is that in the end he wouldn't kill Jesse when even his wife and Saul say that maybe he needs to. His last act in life wasn't just revenge, it was also saving Jesse. It's hard to tell where the manipulation ends and actual care begins. They've made it impossible to deny he cares, but they've also made it impossible to prove he cares.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +221

      Exactly. Amazing point. Again, we see how Walter and Heisenberg constantly conflict and create these grey areas of morality.

    • @jaykenarn6223
      @jaykenarn6223 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      There were moments which can prove Walt cared but just at times hard to tell when he was genuine or acting as you have mentioned

    • @EJN64
      @EJN64 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Maybe that confusion is an expression of Walt’s own confusion as to which version of himself he would like to outwardly embody to its fullest. I think he desperately craves recognition as Heisenberg, but ultimately craves redemption as Walter. So, he attempts to fulfill both by living as Walt and H-Daddy in his final moments. And becoming, in a way, more than either Walter or Heisenberg could’ve been as independent characters.

    • @JackaboiTV
      @JackaboiTV ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@EJN64 So Walter White is neither Heisenberg or Walt,
      he’s HeisenWalt.

    • @traktor321
      @traktor321 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      ​@@JackaboiTV nope, its Walterberg

  • @martinboyle9163
    @martinboyle9163 ปีที่แล้ว +1824

    I loved how the creators were intending to kill Jesse off after a few episodes and then made his character the actual central story arc. Brilliant!

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +190

      So thankful for that. Aaron Paul played the role masterfully! Truly took the spotlight.

    • @ft.meganmccarthy8865
      @ft.meganmccarthy8865 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      Walter lost my sympathy pretty quickly, and without Jesse, I don't think I would have liked the show nearly as much.

    • @Pau_Pau9
      @Pau_Pau9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Maybe Aaron Paul is the real manipulator here.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +110

      @@Pau_Pau9 Maybe the real manipulator was the friends we made along the way

    • @roseyp7047
      @roseyp7047 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I can’t even imagine the show without Aaron Paul and the twisted dynamic and often hilarious banter between Jesse and Walt

  • @e-todlonghair2856
    @e-todlonghair2856 ปีที่แล้ว +915

    Also, I saw someone point out once that Mike, the assassin, is the only older male in Jesses life who doesn't try to manipulate him and genuinely cares for him, this is why Mike is so much better than Walt. The scene when Mike finds out that Walt killed Gus and he came at him with a gun and Jesse moves in front of Walt begging Mike not to kill him you just get this sense, or at least I did, that Mike knows how bad Walt is for Jesse but doesn't know what to do about it.

    • @dentangaji6161
      @dentangaji6161 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Also the parallel between Mike's first encounter with Jesse vs Walt's first encounter with Jesse in the series. Walt's first encounter seems more calm and civil, they are both in a good mental state and capable of reasoning, overall seems like a harmless encounter. On the other hand Mike seems cold and heartless and a bit violent to Jesse when he is in his worst mental state. Guess which one who is actually a decent person and a good influence to Jesse.

    • @dawnguard6472
      @dawnguard6472 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      True and you see more of that in BCS with Nacho.

    • @RJ-wx3fh
      @RJ-wx3fh ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@dentangaji6161 it's an interesting dynamic with Mike coming into Jesse's life with tough love in his best interests because Mike knows the game and has been in it a while, and wants to look out for someone who's not a 'bad' criminal .
      In retrospect, a parallel with Mike trying to convince his son to just go with the mild corruption of his fellow officers .
      Walt , however entered the game and Jesse's life looking out for his own interests despite there being less harmful but more pride-damaging means to support his family like taking Hank&Marie or Elliott&Gretchen's help.

    • @vulk7183
      @vulk7183 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mike isn't really a good person though, he might look like an old sad grandpa with a drooping face but he's just as bad as the others

    • @dawnguard6472
      @dawnguard6472 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@vulk7183 I think he did have morals, he was a product of his environment and it got his son killed. That finished any zest for life he had. I always hope that Jessie got some of his cash to Mike’s granddaughter.

  • @GokenSayajin
    @GokenSayajin ปีที่แล้ว +1087

    An extremely good scene imo no ones talks about is in the first season when Jesse tries to double down and tells his friends the crystal he has is for sale not for use, and Badger, Combo, and SkinnyPete threaten to leave he cracks, showing and subtly hinting at his need for positive reinforcement and companionship even when he is being used by the ones he calls friends
    \

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +62

      That sounds like a really good example! Do you happen to remember the episode? I’d like to check that out! Great catch!

    • @krispyhoe2126
      @krispyhoe2126 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      True, but his friends get better and end up being the only ones who care about him especially in el camino!!

    • @thebestgamerinhistory4340
      @thebestgamerinhistory4340 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@thedefinitiveopinion The scene is in S1E4, roughly 10 minutes into the episode

    • @tim6454
      @tim6454 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      They really were his friends but they were all meth heads and peer pressuring your buddy into sharing his stash is pretty low tier for a meth head

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@tim6454 I think you said it yourself: They're meth heads 💀

  • @jackmanleblanc2518
    @jackmanleblanc2518 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    It's scary how many people who claim to be super fans of this show are just totally blind to Walt's narcissism and manipulation of Jesse. This is a great video that shines a light on it.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I think that’s a testament to how great the show is. It does such a great job that even the viewer roots for Walt.

    • @MakeMeCare89
      @MakeMeCare89 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Walter was NEVER narcissistic.......Just reactive to the world around him...........Jesse wasn't manipulated because by the time Walter talked him into selling meth, Jesse was already in a state of denying his own life......Walter just made it worse............

    • @me-kd7bw
      @me-kd7bw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MakeMeCare89 th-cam.com/video/lm87QaQzuno/w-d-xo.html

    • @Vurdox
      @Vurdox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's scary how people call other people oblivious and then suggest that Walt is narcissistic.... He actually wasn't though. Did you even watch the show....? He was controlling and became "the bad guy" sure, but that doesn't necessarily = narcissism. You definately missed the mark in your analysis. For such a holier than thou "super fan" that's embarrassing. You tried to sound smart then you hoisted yourself on your own petard like a dummy. Gj dummy

    • @sp.2778
      @sp.2778 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      exhibit A is ^^^ lol

  • @sadie9162
    @sadie9162 ปีที่แล้ว +1209

    I think that Walter DOES love Jesse in some way, most likely in a fatherly bond as shown in the episode where Walt Jr. come overs on his birthday to find Walter drunk and on pain meds. Walter in that scene is crying for the things he did to Jesse, showing that at least some part of him recognizes what he is doing is wrong and feels guilt for it. Not to mention in that very same scene he seeks comfort from his son for his actions, begging for forgiveness, which is explained quickly after as he calls his own son Jesse in confusion. Or in the scene after Jane dies when Walter hugs Jesse in the drug den, you can see on his face that he cares for Jesse and is feeling guilt + regret for letting Jane die. But ultimately he justifies it as a "necessary" move for "Jesses health." Not trying to justify Walters actions, he is a sociopathic manipulator, but I think he does care for Jesse genuinely.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +144

      Great analysis. I think this further exemplifies the idea of Walter having two sides to his personality: Walter White and Heisenberg. They both constantly clash and come out at different times. Great comment!

    • @EPMTUNES
      @EPMTUNES ปีที่แล้ว +65

      I loved how they showed that Walter did really regret his relationship with Jesse in "Saul Gone". When Jimmy asks Walter his regrets, he looks at the watch that Jesse got him for his 51st birthday. Keep in mind that this is right after he kidnapped his own daughter and saw his brother-in law get shot in the head.

    • @HK-gm8pe
      @HK-gm8pe ปีที่แล้ว +18

      doesnt make him less of a monster...its not often that I soo passionately hate a character the way I hated Walt

    • @MrTambourineMan.
      @MrTambourineMan. ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I think you’re right. My theory is because Walt was always soft with his real son due to the disability, he saw Jesse as like his second son that he could be as harsh too as he needed to be.
      Take the scene where Walt is teaching Jr how to drive for example. We see him getting annoyed because Jr is using both legs to drive, but the most outwardly angry he gets is when Jr is about to run into something with the car. But there’s no discipline or putting Jr down. The next time we see them driving together Walt is cool with Jr driving using both legs.
      Jesse he can yell at and berate to “mold” him into the son he wants

    • @MrTambourineMan.
      @MrTambourineMan. ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@HK-gm8pesame. It’s funny that in a show full of criminals, killers and drug dealers, the protagonist with cancer is the biggest villain

  • @The-Triumphant-Truth-Talker
    @The-Triumphant-Truth-Talker ปีที่แล้ว +257

    I've heard a lot of people say that Jesse is just stupid and easily manipulated because of it. I wholeheartedly disagree. Jesse is in no way unintelligent (except maybe when it comes to some academic trivia lol) but he *is* naive and childlike. It is shown that when he is in an environment that he is interested in he will excel. I'm kind of the same way. When I was in K-12 I got horrible grades, but now in college studying something I like I get straight A's.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +33

      This was definitely hammered (pun intended) home in the wood crafting scene. He was able to create a beautiful wooden box because of his passion for it. I think this potential for greatness is in every human being, with the tv show even putting in a scene of skinny Pete playing a beautiful piano piece. I’m glad to hear you’re doing well now! Keep it up!

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Even Badger is decently attentive, as shown in the scene with his arrest and stuff. No one is one dimensional or even two dimensional in Breaking Bad even if some come very close.

    • @me-kd7bw
      @me-kd7bw 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He even manipulated other's

    • @user-md9dz3gj6r
      @user-md9dz3gj6r 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@thedefinitiveopinionhe’s probably going to be doing woodworking in his new life in Alaska.

  • @thedeets_
    @thedeets_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    It is pretty common in abusive, toxic, and/or manipulative relationships for the person in power to care or even love the ones that they are manipulating. That doesn't make the relationship healthy, nor does it make the actions towards those being manipulated justifiable. Walt may have saved Jesse in the end, but is he supposed to be praised for that after all the pain he caused Jesse? Hell no! I'm glad channels like this call out the abuse for what it was.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeeepppp. But, it's what makes the show interesting, since it really makes the watchers confused when it comes to Walt's character. I think the fact that so many people have differing opinions on this is what makes the show so cool! Thanks for the detailed and insightful comment!

  • @haustyl12
    @haustyl12 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Jesse’s other weakness is the desire for quick cash and a lot of it. When he tried going straight. He immediately gave up when he realized he’s only qualified for min wage jobs and doesn’t think to either go to college, or find a career. He’s constantly drawn back into the drug business because that’s the only thing he exceeds in that pays a lot. But when too many innocents/people close to Jesse die. He no longer cares about the money. He now realizes it was never worth it and is trapped in a prison of guilt caused by being manipulated by the wrong people

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Interesting point. I think Jesse just feels lost and doesn’t know how to properly get back on his feet since he’s been in “the game” so long. Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @erck1996
    @erck1996 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    Amazing take at Jesse's mental state. Every single character on the show goes more than meets the eye

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Absolutely. That sums up Breaking Bad's characters pretty well. Also, thanks for the compliment!

    • @jeremy7372
      @jeremy7372 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Except for Flynn. He just wants breakfast

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeremy7372 but maybe he’ll want lunch one day? That’s the question I wanted to answer watching that show

    • @thoonalia
      @thoonalia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thedefinitiveopinionlmao

  • @Rosie-yt8nd
    @Rosie-yt8nd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Something i noticed on rewatch is the timing of *when* Walter does nice things for Jessie: whenever he has doubts or is about to leave. He makes Jessie a partner in name but in actuality he is never allowed to surpase him. when he comes close or others recognise Jessie's skills, Walter puts him back down. He is made to feel important enough to keep sticking around, but never truly allowed to stand on his own two feet. Likewise Walter does nice things for Jessie whenever JEssie starts questioning his character and thinking bad of him. And its never things like actually treating Jessie better, but big flashy gestures. He comforts him through grief and rehab but JEssie is not allowed to truly get out of the business. I think one reason he manipulated Jessie to break up with Andrea is that he was happy. And happy JEssie might have seen a future without drugs thats worth living for. Isolation is also a tactic of abusers. I think Walt did care for Jessie, not as his own independant person but as an extension of himself. He did want him to live, to be okay and to stick around but only to the point that he allows it. Jessie cannot achieve things by his own means, only what Walt *gives* him.

    • @siamenace4680
      @siamenace4680 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is perfectly worded, narcissists often see their children or in this case their apprentice as an extension of themselves. He wants Jesse to do well to reflect how great he was at teaching him, but he doesn’t want Jesse to ever outshine him.

  • @carriewalker2929
    @carriewalker2929 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    Yes! I felt so bad for Jesse the whole time. He did most of the dirty work even though it was breaking him.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I agree. Jesse just seemed like a kid that went down an unfortunate path and got way more than he could handle. Extremely disturbing to watch. We hope you enjoyed the video, and thanks for commenting!

    • @judeannethecandorchannel2153
      @judeannethecandorchannel2153 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@thedefinitiveopinion and Carrie Walker
      And he was exploited and put through SLAVERY and near death, plus homicide / moral depravity--by his teacher
      That's SOUL KILLING Stuff.
      And he was ENSLAVED.
      It boggles the mind

    • @bigfluffyhusky1624
      @bigfluffyhusky1624 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He was breaking bad-ly

    • @eustab.anas-mann9510
      @eustab.anas-mann9510 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bigfluffyhusky1624 Ba-dum-tss

  • @terotcard
    @terotcard ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Feel like I need to say, Walter's greatest flaw is that he doesn't know when to quit. It's been a while since I've watched the show but at one point manages to convince Skylar that he doesn't have two cellphones after letting it slip, but he overreaches and makes up a new obvious lie after a show of good faith making Skylar once again suspicious

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      True! I think it’s an interesting look at his ego as he constantly thinks he’s smart enough to keep getting away with it, in turn digging himself into a deeper hole!

  • @fluffywolfo3663
    @fluffywolfo3663 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    That last part about Jesse puts something pretty interesting about the show into perspective. It's a show that's very much about addiction to things beyond drugs - affection, power, control, the lies you tell yourself...

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for interpreting what we said so beautifully!! 😂 even we couldn’t have put it so elegantly!

    • @fluffywolfo3663
      @fluffywolfo3663 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thedefinitiveopinion you are WELCOME :)

  • @cclmnz6850
    @cclmnz6850 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I find the relationship between Walt and Jesse so fascinating to analyze.
    The way they depend on each other.
    It's by staying together while cooking meth that they find meaning in their lives.
    There is such toxicity between them but they are willing to kill for each other.
    For each of them, they try to fill something that was not present in their current life by staying together.
    It shows well through Jesse's dependence on others for example because there is also this fear of being rejected.
    Jesse thinks he can only be valuable to someone by totally belonging to them, because he is so desperate to be the center of someone's existence that he no longer takes his well-being into consideration.
    Obviously, this lack of purpose and identity stems from his childhood as his parents and teachers at school did not give him enough positive attention to the point that he ended up internalizing that he was a disappointment for everyone.
    When he tries, for example, to sell meth to addicts who are trying to recover, he does so to gain a sense of control over his own life, which he is slowly destroying, and to have a sense of accomplishment of his own skills. But at the same time, we see that he tries to punish himself by destroying others since he thinks he is destined only for that.
    Walt is also desperately afraid of rejection, I think we can also make the connection with the fact that he lost his father very young for this fear of being abandoned.
    He is completely out of touch with reality and lives in his own fantasy and takes Jesse there (who is someone who has never shown his own potential and who desperately admires Walt despite all the horrors he has committed).
    This version of himself where he is in control of his own life, in the end, it's just him and Jesse who clings to it since the rest of his family can't take his toxic attitude anymore.
    Jesse knows him better than anyone and stays despite everything so walter will exploit this vulnerability to rationalize his behavior and for fear that jesse will abandon him in turn.
    He envies Jesse's youth and he sees Jesse as an extension of himself since Walt has restricted himself all his life and refused to showcase his own skills due to his many insecurities.
    I'll stop there but for me, their relationship is really one of the highlights of the show.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Great analysis and summary! Love the way you framed it. You really did a great job highlighting the toxicity present in the relationship and the dependence that both of them have on each other. Bravo!

    • @cclmnz6850
      @cclmnz6850 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thedefinitiveopinion Thanks!
      I love to analyze their relationship so much.
      It's fascinating to see how their relationship also gives a lot of nuance to each of the two characters individually and how that will impact them as well throughout the show as they are unable to communicate in a healthy way.
      Even if Jesse managed to break the chains of his relationship with Walt, with all the trauma he has and how much Walt impacted his life, I think Jesse felt a great loss when he learned of Walt's death.
      And while I think that Jesse saying "do it yourself" to Walt means he's breaking the chains, I think it could also mean he still cares about Walt despite what Walt put him through.
      He loves and hates him at the same time.
      For me there are many interpretations because Jesse himself is extremely confused when it comes to Walt.

  • @bigpapisosa7097
    @bigpapisosa7097 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Both Walter and Jesse were addicted to the affection, respect, and validation of others. The only difference being Jesse wanted a family, Walt wanted an empire.

  • @mcedicion3659
    @mcedicion3659 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Even the first dialogue that Walter and Jesse had in the show was a manipulation! Whenever Walt went to tell Jesse to partner up, he blackmailed him. Either Jesse cooked with Walter or Walter would turn him in to the DEA.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True! We forgot to mention that in our video! Good catch!

  • @Frank7489
    @Frank7489 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Jesse is the most well liked character on the show. Almost everybody who gets to know him likes him. At first they write him off as an addict but after a while he wins them over. With Mike, he wins him over by saving them both from getting robbed. With Gus, he wins him over by competently playing his part as a master cook with the cartel. With Saul, he wins him over by having him drop off weekly checks to Andrea and Brock. Hank might not ever like Jesse but I like to think he gains some respect for him when he comes up with the idea of “hitting Walt where he really lives” with the money ploy. It’s hard to pin down where Walt is first truly won over by Jesse but Walt is shown again and again he will do anything for Jesse.
    Even Skyler seems to momentarily confide in Jesse when Jesse reads the “vaminos” off the pest control truck and Skyler responds “I wish” and gives him a sad, wishful look

    • @TheLudwigWan
      @TheLudwigWan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah. He was very annoying after declining to leave the 'business'.

    • @TheJofrica
      @TheJofrica 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Walt Jr. is also very well-liked

    • @Frank7489
      @Frank7489 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheJofrica sure but he do doesn’t meet like half the cast. Like no one in the underworld really comes into contact with him

    • @TheJofrica
      @TheJofrica 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Frank7489 Still well-liked. And by well-liked I think it means whether the audience likes him, not the other cast

    • @Someone_adachi
      @Someone_adachi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wasnt the robbing a ploy by gus?

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Its always really heartbreaking when you think about all the bad things that happened to Jesse in this series. Breaking Bad is such a great show, that it makes you really feel for the fictional characters as if they were a living friend or family member.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly. The fact that it’s able to foster such attachment between watcher and character really testifies to the greatness of the show!

  • @73theperfectnumberthirdfro72
    @73theperfectnumberthirdfro72 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I think he was pot head at school and got in to harder stuff to help cope with the loss of the only person that really got him his auntie from cancer

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That's a good catch. Definitely makes his character more tragic when considering that detail.

  • @lawka2699
    @lawka2699 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Big oversight on Pink's relationship with his parents. They explicitly state they did help him multiple times try to recover, rehab, move back in, get a job etc. But then decided their younger son is old enough now to be negatively impacted by living with a failed-to-recover addict. Jesse doesn't even hold it against them, he understands and respects that. So they didn't outright give up on him. They tried for years, and had to make a decision to provide for their kid.

    • @LttleGhostx
      @LttleGhostx ปีที่แล้ว +44

      it's actually only suggested that they did much to try and "help" him, the only concrete thing we know they tried outside of general punishment for using drugs was an intervention. Everything they attempted falls into the category of "tough love" as well, which has been repeatedly shown to make things like addiction WORSE, not better, and they tried the same things over and over again which like... if something isn't working it's a good idea to try different strategies. Furthermore when Jesse does have periods of time where he feels needed and cared for he automatically starts functioning better, which is even more damning for what his parents might've attempted to do to try and stop his addictive behaviors. We also see that at least Jesse's mother does kinda act as if Jesse's actual interests aren't worth pursuing, when Hank asks Jesse's mom if he still has the car he has at the beginning of the series she says "if he had spent half the time and money on his education as he did on that car" which implies that Jesse worked on it himself, admittedly the car sounds like it runs terribly but that is a genuine interest and skill that she could've encouraged him to work on and get better at. It's not like their family doesn't have the money to help support him until he could get on his feet with a more hands on or artistic job, but his parent's value academics. Also kicking Jesse out of his own house instead of finding some other way to completely separate from him unless he gets arrested shows that they do not actually care what happens to him, if you are homeless criminal activity is your best bet for survival, and his mother has the gall to tell him to get his life together as she is kicking him out of his house right after she slapped him in the face.
      like of course Jesse doesn't blame his parents, I mean he does show that he's mad at them in earlier seasons but at the end of everything he's much more inclined to take responsibility for everything, it doesn't mean that he's right
      I'd also say that Jesse is very aggressively suggested to have ADHD and it is very common for parents who were expecting to have a "normal" child to make their kids condition worse by doing things that would normally work for a neurotypical kid

    • @calebbarnhouse496
      @calebbarnhouse496 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@LttleGhost I'm sorry dude, butnyour just wrong, even if you assume that they only tried touph love, that doesn't mean THEY DIDN'T TRY, they did put effort into helping him, that is a fact, how Jessie responded to that and how they did it doesn't matter for that, they did want to help him, but the fact is he made the choice, and his parents tried to get him to do it, we can only speculate how long it went on how bad and so on about the stuff, while his parents likely inadvertently put stress on him that caused him to turn to drugs, as can be seen when his brother is shown to be getting weed, that doesn't actually mean that they don't genuinely care but as they don't understand what it is, they don't know the best way to help

    • @LttleGhostx
      @LttleGhostx ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@calebbarnhouse496 I don't think trying means that they necessarily cared, and even if they did it doesn't mean that the way they tried to "help" Jesse did much more harm than good and that Jesse not improving was HIS fault and not theirs, you describe Jesse as making a "choice" but like... do you realize how long now we know that addiction is not a choice? and like, even if they cared a small ammount they didn't care ENOUGH to look into other options, they didn't care enough to actually like look into other options, and maybe that's somewhat societies fault but I have multiple friends who's lives could've gone so much worse if their parents had just given up instead of trying different options, mine could've gone a similar way honestly. also it's suggested that Jesse already lived with his aunt in high school, as it's the first place Walt checks from the school system to find Jesse, so there's at least some evidence that his parents had already largely given up on him at that point, and again we see Jesse's behaviour improve during the show in situations where he feels cared about and needed, which is more evidence that Jesse's parents never made him feel that way (or at least more evidence than there is that they did make him feel cared about and needed) and also I'm sorry if you care about your child's wellbeing at all you do not make them homeless, that is literally making sure that your kids best chance at plain *survival* is crime
      like maybe they cared some, but even if neglect isn't intended, it's still neglect, even if they didn't mean to make things worse, they did, it's not Jesse's fault, and while we don't have any concrete proof of what went on, the hints we DO have about Jesse's parents do not paint them in a good light especially if you're someone who has had personal experience in a situation similar to Jesse's

    • @LttleGhostx
      @LttleGhostx ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@calebbarnhouse496 oh and one additional thing; what societal ideas are you challenging in blaming Jesse for making a "choice" vs aknowledging his parents, wether intended or not, fucked him up with their choices of discipline (cause again, while we don't have much knowledge on Jesse's younger years, the tiny bits that we do have do not paint his parents in a good light)
      cause blaming Jesse doesn't bring anything new to the table, we've already stigmatized addiction and blamed addicts while making help harder to get as a society and its done nothing good, but addressing that some parenting techniques are harmful and can be the catalyst to harmful coping mechanisms and behaviours is still not so widely recognized (not just for addiction but for other mental health problems including neurodivergence as well, though they often go hand-in-hand) like literally the fact that I have to argue about it is proof of that, people like Jesse's parents need to be able to realize that they've fucked up, people need to know enough to call out parents when they have the wrong approach to things as well, solving the source of a problem is what will do the most good

    • @sidarthur8706
      @sidarthur8706 ปีที่แล้ว

      no fuck that. they raised two druggies

  • @ethanh9602
    @ethanh9602 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Actually the worst crime presented in this video is the amount of inverted clips

  • @pastapirate
    @pastapirate ปีที่แล้ว +175

    God the more you think about it, the more sad his fierce loyalty becomes.
    Also excellent video! Making an interesting Breaking Bad video essay is quite a feat with how much analysis this show has received.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks so much for the compliments! That means a lot to us. We agree, too. At first, we all felt really good about their relationship and thought they were doing it together and helping each other. However, they ultimately ended up destroying each other. Great show. Thanks for commenting!

    • @judeannethecandorchannel2153
      @judeannethecandorchannel2153 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thedefinitiveopinion
      And PastaPirate
      Yeah, has any show gone so far in showing a good hearted person, and Young and Vulnerable person, So misled and put through such hell?
      I don't care if I were going to die in the next 5 minutes. I could never corrupt an already confused young person. Or Any young person.
      I Don't understand when older, more Adult people feel no responsibility to help the young. They're so OBVIOUSLY Vulnerable, and full of potential. How can anyone not want to help them?
      To lead a mixed up young man deep into crime is just really heartlessly evil.
      I'm sure Walt rationalized it.
      But if you understand that Pruett people are Real Beings, but tools for you to use-- you could never do that to someone who isn't even a full firmed adult.
      It's akin to child abuse. It's teen abuse.
      Teens aren't children--but they Aren't adults either.
      How could you send a young life down THAT path?

    • @wonder_platypus8337
      @wonder_platypus8337 ปีที่แล้ว

      Benjamin Franklin actually wrote about something similar to this. I can't find it but it's something about having people do small tasks for you that slowly become larger. The feeling of sunk effort eventually builds into a loyalty that is hard to shake.

  • @singularity___
    @singularity___ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Out of all of the characters in breaking bad, Jesse is definitely one of the ones I feel the worst for. So many tragic, gut-wrenching scenes involving him

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True. He's truly the character that made us realize just how tragic the story of Breaking Bad actually was.

  • @JThePlante
    @JThePlante 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Walter ends up wanting to spend time with Jesse more than his own family

  • @shaobues
    @shaobues ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Jesse is by far the best character in the show. Just as well written as everyone else, but his morality and story really make you feel for him.

  • @flamethegame1
    @flamethegame1 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I liked this analysys
    But I do have something to add to this
    I think that Walters and Jesses relationship can sort of be split into 3 sections:
    1. Pure business
    The first part of season one where they work on this as a purely business venture, simply combining eachothers skills to make money
    2. Closer friendship
    Slowly, they build into something which you could call being friends, while bonding over dealing with danger and making lots of money
    3. The facade
    Over time, as Walter realizes his full potential and how well he is able to manipulate Jesse, their relationship becomes more of a facade held up by Walter for the purposes of keeping tensions between the two low. Eventually, Jesse starts to break free after he pulls out of the post-gus meth dealings they were doing, and eventually he breaks fully free when he doesnt shoot walter at the end of the final episode. And i think his rejoicement in the car in the last episode is also partly caused by this fact
    And, as an addon ill say that about 80% of the series is the facade, and that the first two stages pass suprisingly quick. Just shows that it really didnt take much for Walter to turn into heisenberg

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Great analysis. That was a good way to summarize their relationship. While I definitely agree with the majority, I would say that all three of those stages are ever-present throughout the whole series, with one of them taking the reigns at different times. Great comment!

    • @judeannethecandorchannel2153
      @judeannethecandorchannel2153 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thedefinitiveopinion
      It's usually everything together.
      Rarely one thing only. Even in sequence.
      YES. great comment and great reply.

    • @sowpmactavish
      @sowpmactavish ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh "rejoicement", I think that was just his own version of Walt's breakdown in Crawl Space, albeit post-facto

    • @naomisalcedo4196
      @naomisalcedo4196 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thedefinitiveopinion o

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is also noted their first serious argument occurred in season 1. Walter was never a good fit for Jesse and they were destined to fall apart. Walter just sincerely needed the money for meaningful reason back in season 1.

  • @MC-wo1be
    @MC-wo1be ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Poor Jesse, even Jane manipulated him. Im not saying she was a bad person, she had her own problems and Jesse being a drug dealer was a huge bait to screw her rehabilitation from drugs, and im almost never on Walter's side but in that case, Jesse and Jane with half a million dollars would've ended up dead within a week. (I dont justify Walter for what he did, letting Jane die broke my heart)They were perfect for each other but they met at the worst possible time of their lives.
    Also, to me Hank is no better than Walter as a person...he drove death upon himself but he dragged Gómez with him😢

  • @thedefinitiveopinion
    @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +352

    “Say the words! Say YOU want this”
    “I want this”
    “Then do it yourself.”
    The moment where Jesse finally broke out of his shackles and stopped doing others’ dirty work for them.
    If you’d like to watch a clean version of the video without blurs, click the link: th-cam.com/video/Qm1Mk9nvkDA/w-d-xo.html
    Check out our other video about the costs of chasing greatness in the movie Whiplash: th-cam.com/video/6ix-KAhoh9I/w-d-xo.html
    Breaking Bad has gone down as one of, if not the greatest, TV shows of all time. It highlights concepts like ego and power, and what they can do to a person. We decided to analyze how manipulation was used against Jesse Pinkman to turn him into a puppet for other drug dealers. Please like and subscribe if you enjoyed!
    Also, thank you to everyone who supported us by liking, subscribing, and/or commenting on our last video! We really appreciate it! We expect to upload on a bi-weekly basis just in case anyone is curious.

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Too late tho

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ratedr7845 indeed. But, at least he lived and was able to carry his lessons into his next life.

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thedefinitiveopinion yeah

    • @senpaiilvr696
      @senpaiilvr696 ปีที่แล้ว

      1

    • @libradawg9
      @libradawg9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it was more like he saw the gut wound and know he didn't have to. The nod at the end was he knew he pulled all of this off with the ulterior motive to free him, when he could've killed the Nazis and ran. The first time ever Walt did something for Jesse unselfishly.

  • @9998thegrimeater
    @9998thegrimeater ปีที่แล้ว +87

    man it's wild to see someone this good this early in their career. Keep going man, I'll definitely be coming back to watch whatever video essays you put out

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That truly means a lot. There will be another one out coming soon (roughly a week and a half hopefully), so stay tuned! Thank you for the kind words, seriously. It keeps us motivated 🎉

    • @Zoogler
      @Zoogler ปีที่แล้ว

      I genuinely had not realized how small this channel was till you pointed it out. Bros got crazy quality !

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 ปีที่แล้ว

      I second this!! So happy I stumbled on this video/dude

  • @mygoldfishdrown5178
    @mygoldfishdrown5178 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The first time Walt cold-blooded killed crazy 8 was difficult on him, all the rest weren't.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great point. Do you think it makes Walt even worse that he murdered and knew what it felt like, yet still continued to do it anyway? Do you think a part of him thought it was justifiable at the moment?

    • @mygoldfishdrown5178
      @mygoldfishdrown5178 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @The Definitive Opinion the only person Walt didn't have to kill was Mike, but at that point waits ego had totally taken over; it was all about his ego the moment he blew up tucos pad.

  • @borkbunns
    @borkbunns ปีที่แล้ว +92

    why did i take the thumbnail literally and read it as jesse literally being cooked lmao
    edit: lol i didn't think the creator would change the thumbnail cuz of the missing comma initially. i got the phrase afterwards, but was just funny thinking about it when you take it literally too.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That must have been quite a scare 😅. We'll work on adjusting that right away. Don't want any heart attacks happening because of us! We hope you enjoyed the video!

    • @rc8s
      @rc8s ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Commas

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@rc8s We need to eat mother.

    • @jhvibes3471
      @jhvibes3471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because you don't understand commas

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jhvibes3471 the previous thumbnail lacked a comma (we left it out as we didn’t think it was necessary for a graphic), so that is what the original comment poster is referring to. However, we have since fixed it!

  • @yarn1471
    @yarn1471 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I prefer using phrases like "my favourite show" rather than "the best show" as its really subjective

  • @davisdoesgames6815
    @davisdoesgames6815 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Honestly, jesse's my favorite character in the whole breaking bad universe because of how real he feels. A well meaning kid in a toxic neverending cycle that brought him to his breaking point. He didn't deserve any of it.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He was a way for us to humanize the characters of the show and really remind us how horrible the situations were 🙏

  • @onesimusopperman1587
    @onesimusopperman1587 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    This deserves way more attention good job.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much. That was very kind and very motivating to read. We will keep pushing to get that attention 🎉 we haven’t worked hard enough yet!

  • @Void7.4.14
    @Void7.4.14 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The way Jesse was routinely manipulated by multiple parties really made this show a frontrunner for the topic. The only ones I might put above it in terms of TV manipulation would be The Sopranos when Tony has Chrissy kill a cop who he claims wacked his old man in order to bond him to him deeply (among other things), and Oz cause the whole show is manipulation on manipulation. And both shows are just better, but BB definitely does this and other things very well.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Breaking Bad definitely does a great job of using ego and manipulation as themes and explores them very beautifully. The examples you listed are great, too! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

  • @burnttoast687
    @burnttoast687 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The way I’ve seen walt defenders saying it was completely jesses fault for Walt’s downfall when he told Hank about their crimes. Even tho through the entire show Jesse was manipulated time and time again. And he was shown to always have a strong belief in protecting kids from drug dealing so they expect him to just accept walt lied to him and poisoned one of his loved one like ?? Like “damn mr white you poisoned brock it’s okay you used one of the people I truly care about to use me to agree to help killing gus 👍” jesse is just a kid being abused by someone he puts his trust in 😭😭

  • @chargerboi4982
    @chargerboi4982 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The beginning blurring Gus really made my 2 week old baby feel safe thanks TH-cam.

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Breaking Bad is a great take on early 2000s suburbia. In 2000, my parents and I moved from Hardy, Virginia (rural) to Worthington, OH (suburbia) when I was 7 years old. It was such a culture shock to have rude old neighbors bitching at you for no reason and just an overall sense of "wtf is this?" as well as almost never seeing my parents bc of work priorities...so i know exactly how that loneliness can be ... Its a fake and overpriced life that is not natural in any way and is most likely, very harmful to the family structure, overall physical and mental health, and I feel that you'll see way more families become homesteaders than want to repeat what their parents did. Thats my future. Live off the land. Fish, hunt, and grow as much as humanly possible! Its what most ppl did not more than 150 years ago in the US.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for sharing! Life is definitely complicated and things can feel quite blurry at times. I’m glad you seem to have found your way! Thanks for watching!

  • @boneappletea3858
    @boneappletea3858 ปีที่แล้ว +496

    Jesse came from an affluent family that loved him very much. That's made clear by the scenes with his little brother but like most addicts they burn bridges. It's not like he came from an abusive background or a family that never loved him.
    Edit: there's another scene where Jesse calls to apologize for his actions and tells his parents they loved him very much and did their best. Doesn't sound like someone that harbors ill will over being abused. No one here has any evidence of his parents being abusive. They just like Jesse and think kicking your grown kid out after being too difficult to handle makes them abusive. People like that believe lots of things with their emotions without good evidence. They're mostly called religious people. After talking to person after person with no good evidence to suggest his parents were in any way abusive I've stopped reading replies cuz it gets stupidly repetitive and trolly. Think what you want but if you care if your beliefs are true then you'll want good evidence not just your emotional opinions.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +185

      Thanks for commenting 🙏 the point wasn’t necessarily that his family was abusive, but just that they kind of gave up on him. Whether that was justified or not isn’t really explored well enough in the show, however I don’t know if it’s ever justified to give up on your son.
      The fact that he burned bridges because of addiction makes him more susceptible to manipulation, which is why that was mentioned in this video. If he feels rejected by his parents (even if it was his fault), he will be way more love starved and easier to control. Thanks for commenting!

    • @ishtarinanna4478
      @ishtarinanna4478 ปีที่แล้ว +344

      His parents seemed to value their children's accomplishments more than their wellbeing

    • @Cobalt_Ink
      @Cobalt_Ink ปีที่แล้ว +134

      @@ishtarinanna4478 well said, his parents definitely gave up on him early on.

    • @matthewdietzen6708
      @matthewdietzen6708 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@ishtarinanna4478 ding ding ding! You have it exactly.

    • @baptizednblood6813
      @baptizednblood6813 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Did you watch the same series? His parents were assholes who never acted like they loved him and were willing to screw up his life over a tiny bit of weed. I saw no indication that Jessie had pushed them to that point

  • @pablowarcraft
    @pablowarcraft 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Japanese viewers will be very confused with the scene where Jesse shows the "pixelated gun" to Gabe

  • @marcjohn9404
    @marcjohn9404 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    He lured him in like a fish. What does the fish want? Food, you put bait on the end of a hook and it ensnares itself. Humans have changing needs, Walter was able to adapt his strategies throughout the series because he's a very intelligent person. When there was ever a competition for Jesse, he often eliminated the competition, he let Jane die not because she was dragging Jesse down, but because she was potentially, one way or another, going to cost him Jesse who was as fundamental to his success as he himself was. He never could have done it without Jesse, so he desperately attempts to keep him on his side. I don't think you can say he cares about Jesse really, I guess in some twisted way he does because he saves his life, but you could also argue that this is his way of reinforcing their bond so he can continue to manipulate him. A lot of the things that threaten Jesse's life are things that Walter is responsible for in some way.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, that's a really great way of looking at it! That's an amazing analogy that really ties together a lot of what we were discussing in terms of the emotional intelligence of Walter to really turn the situation to his favor against some a lot more vulnerable like Jesse. A lot of the by-products of these actions taken by Walter are a lot of the hardships Jesse faces throughout the series. It's also really neat how you question the basis of their relationship because that's something amazing that the show does is that it kind of leaves their relationship as ambiguous whether or not it was founded on affection. With that being said, thanks for taking time out of your day to comment and watch our video! We hope you enjoyed and look forward to seeing you in our next couple of videos!

    • @truffle6082
      @truffle6082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes but to some extent.
      Jessie got kicked out of his aunt house due to his parents.
      He cooks meth and made enough to buy the house back in full. Meaning he fully owned the house.due to Walter
      Jane tries to have Jessie overdose along with her water annhilated her. Had she survived how long until Jessie perished.
      Tuco beats up Jessie Walter comes in and gets revenge for him.
      Jessie gets almost dies by drug dealers Walter saves him. From the two drug dealers.
      Before finally quitting Walter his Jessie I think 10 million dollars. More money then he could ever imagine and walks out.

    • @MontagueCapulet
      @MontagueCapulet ปีที่แล้ว

      More because Jane was blackmailing Walt.

  • @plungiemcgee
    @plungiemcgee ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This channel is about to blow up, keep on going man! Road to 1k!!

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We really appreciate the kindness and support, man. Thank you. As of right now, we're just happy to be providing cool content for everyone, but we really hope it goes well so we can dedicate more time to it! Thank you greatly for the kind words and we hope to see you in our next videos!

  • @Marka301
    @Marka301 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    damn, I must have watched over 20 video essays on breaking bad, and I love them all

  • @sabinajoh
    @sabinajoh ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Shit I’m broken I really need a therapist
    I just realized how I relate to Jesse in how I attach to anyone who seems to care and that makes me really easy to manipulate
    I don’t even have the same background at all but I really relate to how he looks at relationships

    • @flyinglawnmower7457
      @flyinglawnmower7457 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Take care,people love to exploit what they think are weak people that can't say no
      Please find a way to respect yourself,I know this type of life drains a lot of energy.

    • @vfanon
      @vfanon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he’s just like me fr
      …I do genuinely sympathize, not being able to find any sort of inner validation fucks you up. And sometimes the people you desperately want the validation of end up abusing that.

  • @RomanTheFilmLoverrr
    @RomanTheFilmLoverrr ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *the commentary* Jesse has been abused and manipulated and unloved throughout is life!!!
    *The music in the background*😎

  • @Anubis2705
    @Anubis2705 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jesse was very thankful for the comma in the Thumbnail.

  • @8BitDarkNESsR3v14
    @8BitDarkNESsR3v14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the theme: 💣👨‍🦲🧑‍🔬🧊🏜🗡💊💉
    background music: 🥰🏵🌷🌸☕️🍩🎀

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s hard to find good non copyright music man 💀

    • @f1ftyy
      @f1ftyy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thedefinitiveopinion epedimic sound. It has all moods and levels.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@f1ftyy Thanks! We’ll check it out!

  • @pyrotheshark1599
    @pyrotheshark1599 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the real abuse is putting "lofi beats to chill and study to" on this video.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😭 it’s hard to find good background music that’s copyright free man 💀

  • @lifedeather
    @lifedeather ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah, I remember when I had to do a video essay for school project so I started looking up examples and it got me hooked. Glad to see they are still around and this is a great topic too since Breaking Bad has been one of my favorite shows I watched just a few months back. Video essays are like the homework you actually want to do, I had so much fun with mine and I really liked how I could explain the lore or analyze some of my favorite shows and games and your video really does the Video Essay theme justice. Just subbed, keep it up :)

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, calling it the homework you actually want to do is mind-blowingly accurate 💀. It is super fun to analyze our favourite shows! There’s actual passion put into it! Thank you for being so generous in your compliments. The way you worded them made them extra nice. Thanks for subbing!

  • @hastensavoir7782
    @hastensavoir7782 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Walt cared for Jesse, proven by his saving him from the machine gun onslaught.

  • @Tinandel
    @Tinandel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Walt does love Jesse. He just loves himself a lot more.

  • @mr.cauliflower3536
    @mr.cauliflower3536 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gale was aware that Gus wanted to kill Walt and was in on the plan to become his replacement. It was necessary, even if the man himself did not actively try to hurt Walt.

  • @extraashtrid
    @extraashtrid ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The master class I've been needing

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We're glad we fulfilled your need! If you want to see more, check out our Whiplash masterclass video: th-cam.com/video/6ix-KAhoh9I/w-d-xo.html Thank you for commenting and we're so happy you enjoyed our video!

  • @GWPetersFilm
    @GWPetersFilm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video and intelligent dissection of one of my new favorite shows. You made brilliant points and I'm glad you gave the show the thought and care it deserves.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We appreciate it! We tried to be a bit more unique with this video and we're glad the reception has been so positive! We hope you stick with us for more videos like this one! Thank you for taking the time to comment, it really helps us out!

  • @kevinou1401
    @kevinou1401 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ngl i was curious about who that channel was until i see that you only have 109 subscribers... You made a wonderful video and i believe you deserve wayy more than that!!
    Great content keep it up! :3

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much for the kind words! 109 subscribers is a lot for now, but we definitely hope to get more! Thank you for believing in us :)

  • @thecricket1564
    @thecricket1564 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is a very well constructed video. I thought this was a channel of 400k subs. I will be subscribed from now on. I hope you continue you release good videos like this one.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for the kind words. We will try our best to maintain and improve the quality of our videos! We’re really glad you enjoyed.

  • @harukomeyers7073
    @harukomeyers7073 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    What a great video! Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the subscriber count. Consider me one of them and i can't wait for more videos.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! We’re glad you enjoyed the video. That’s very kind of you to not only say that but then subscribe as well! We’re definitely looking forward to releasing more videos :) we hope you’ll enjoy and in the meantime feel free to check out our whiplash video that’s quite similar in style to this one: th-cam.com/video/6ix-KAhoh9I/w-d-xo.html

  • @ofwgreptar2511
    @ofwgreptar2511 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love all the different takes and perspectives here. So many add up and make sense.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      In the video or comment section? We agree either way! Thank you for watching and commenting, as it helps us out and means a lot! We hope you stick around for future uploads!

  • @deathwishtommy9773
    @deathwishtommy9773 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know the censorship is for a reason but it is till kinda funny in a way. Here is a show about crime, murder, and social corruption but heavens forbid we see a gun, nudity, or drugs.

  • @muimeko2774
    @muimeko2774 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And to think that Jesse was initially just a dispensable punk who wouldn't probably make it to season 2.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of the best choices they made was to keep Jesse in the show!

  • @chickencurry420
    @chickencurry420 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Toward the end, I didn't want to see Jesse behind bars. After what he's been through, I'd argue that whatever time they were gonna make him serve, he's served it. Dude went to hell and back over and over again, but he's rarely done it of his own accord.

  • @katiebruli9904
    @katiebruli9904 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Everything was great but the last straw with Jane was when she basically blackmailed Walt and spoke for Jesse, making important, mutinous decisions.

  • @RandomTubefulcrum
    @RandomTubefulcrum ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad this came on my recommendations. Hope to see more videos soon enough!

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And we’re glad you clicked on it! You will definitely be seeing more videos, and it’s thanks to your support 🎉

  • @WillTommy07
    @WillTommy07 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just want to say you are real cool and think you very much deserve a huge platform keep the good work going on man

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! That truly means a lot. We appreciate you taking the time out of your day to leave such a kind comment!

  • @eggdude5460
    @eggdude5460 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:10 man his ear looks pretty torn up, he really needs to get that looked at

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At least no other body part of his was harmed! 😂

  • @i.pfreely8979
    @i.pfreely8979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the subject matter: 😱😥😨
    the music: 😊✨️🥰

  • @LttleGhostx
    @LttleGhostx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    people have been arguing in the comments that Jesse's parents actually did love him and gave him everything that he needed to succeed but I feel as if the normalization of neglecting "fuck up" kids, like addicts such as Jesse and kids with developmental disorders (which... Jesse is also heavily implied to have ADHD, whether intentional or not there is a ton of evidence for it) we don't actually know what they tried to do to help him, other than obviously forms of punishment and Jesse himself also mentions an intervention, but the problems with these things though are that they are "tough love" tactics, which have now been proven to more often make things worse than better for kids struggling with things like addiction and the problems that come with neurodivergence. it also seems like the repeated the same tactics again and again which I feel like it should be common sense at this point to try something different if how you're currently approaching a problem isn't working for your child. but I think the most damning thing about their attempts to "help" Jesse is that during the course of the show, in moments where Jesse has genuine support and feels needed, he automatically starts functioning better, think of his time with Mike, or even how he was with Jane before Combo was killed, his living space gets to a point where it looks genuinely nice and the amount of drug use we see from him is significantly less.
    also maybe Jesse's parents had the right to not have him live in their house, kicking him out of his own house instead of finding some other way to completely separate from his criminal activities is... cruel, and quite literally makes it so that selling meth is his best option, and his mom had the nerve to tell him to get his life together as he is being kicked out after slapping him across the face. in that same scene we also get the information that Jesse's parents just left him alone with his aunt while she was dying, and while we can't confirm whether or not Jesse took care of her like he said, the only thing his mother even tries to correct him on was "you did not make her lunch every day" and completely deflects when he asks where she was when that was happening and... it seems like Jesse's aunt was the only person who truly offered him unconditional love, and having his parents leave him alone to take care of her while she was dying is honestly something that had to be traumatic
    oh and ALSO since Walt found Jesse at his aunts house from the high school's registry it does seem like Jesse has been living with his aunt more than his parents since high school
    also in terms of whether or not they encouraged Jesse's interests, there is a lot suggesting that they value academics over anything else, a lot within the specific things of Jake's that they praise, but also when Hank is looking for Walt and asks about Jesse's car, his mother says "if he had spent half the time and money on his education as that ridiculous bouncing car" which suggests to me that Jesse worked on the car himself, and admittedly it sounds like shit, but it's a genuine interest that could've been encouraged and possibly led to a job for Jesse, and even if it would've taken him awhile to build up some real skill, his parents clearly have money and could've supported him while he got on his feet

    • @lucystoner
      @lucystoner 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. I never got the real image that Jesse's parents were just normal family at the end of the rope with an addict. There was no real love there. It really did seem like they wrote him off as a fuck up from the start.

  • @frogsalesman
    @frogsalesman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant video, good job with it. I really hope your video gains more traction.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the compliment 🙏 means a lot. We hope it does well too!

  • @Dawdyy
    @Dawdyy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is only you're fourth upload and you're already looking this professional! Awesome work! Excited to see where this channel goes guys keep it up!

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, that’s very kind of you! We try our hardest! We’re also looking forward to the future of this channel!

  • @mrphilly
    @mrphilly ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Your channel will grow well, good luck on your career!

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for those kind words! Without your support and positivity, none of our work would have the same impact so thank you for taking the time out of your day to spread some positivity! We wish you all the best in your future endeavours and hope to see you around!

  • @stupidtom123
    @stupidtom123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    im surprised you dont have over 1k subs, your videos are amazing.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for your kind words! It means a lot to us. We are still working on getting our channel out there, so we hope that we will get to that 1K mark soon! Nonetheless, thank you for your support and we hope to see you at our next video!

  • @thepsychofunboyartist
    @thepsychofunboyartist ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is such a great analysis Breaking Bad is my favorite show and Jesse and Walter are my two favorites Jesse being my number one for many reasons but the main reason is because out of the people in the world of drugs in the show Jesse is the one who has the most good in him and I personally would not label him as a villain I think he is deep down a good person with a good heart who made stupid choices and got forced into even worse things because of Heisenberg. and btw I'm definitely subbing you deserve more subs like your content is awesome I am so glad this video poped up also btw I'm not sure what other characters you plan on covering next but could you maybe do Optimus Prime from the bayverse or g1verse?

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for the support! We’re glad you enjoyed the video. We agree with Jesse being kind-hearted and simply went down a wrong path. It’s what makes his story so tragic. Thank you for the sub! We will definitely consider the Michael bay transformers movies for future videos! Love those movies! Stay tuned for that!

    • @thepsychofunboyartist
      @thepsychofunboyartist ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thedefinitiveopinion You're welcome and Thank you for replying and sweet! Optimus is my hero! Can't wait to see that video!

  • @thepoeticeclectic
    @thepoeticeclectic ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video, man. I'm digging the music too

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate it! We’re glad you enjoyed the music and we hope you tune into our next videos 🎉

  • @judeannethecandorchannel2153
    @judeannethecandorchannel2153 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching for the second time. So great. Insightful, earnest, and moving. And trenchant.

  • @halozxz5770
    @halozxz5770 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    1 year before BB Jesse saw Walt as a nerdy annoying teacher he had in HS
    1 year after BB, Jesse saw Walt as a murdering manipulator psychopath

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Exactly. That's what's so impressive about Breaking Bad: the character development. Although, an interesting question to pose is the possibility that perhaps Walter was always that sociopath and the meth business just let him indulge in it? Or was it something that started because of the business? Would love to hear your thoughts and thank you so much for the comment! We really appreciate it!

    • @OmniversalInsect
      @OmniversalInsect ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thedefinitiveopinion I think the show alludes to him always being prideful and not being a very good person but after the whole Heisenberg transition it brought out the more evil aspects in him

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True, especially with the grey matter debacle. However, I’d say he was still a good person, albeit with some flaws. But you’re definitely right that he let them take control. However, do you think the show was trying to say Walt’s spiral could happen to anybody?

    • @SpongeChadSquareJaw
      @SpongeChadSquareJaw ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess, years of wasting intellectual capabilities and ambitions can make most people break bad. Pure unrestrained intelligence is psychopathy

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess it was like that. However, even before he was awakened Walter White was at best a nasty piece of work - you do not histrionically quit your job like that, and you do not sneak attack your son’s bullies like that. Only a person with that much ego and pride and hidden rage does that - Heisenberg is what happens when a person like that had power.
      In my opinion, those, plus the rest of Breaking Bad, de facto qualify him with the dramatic label of evil, simply because there is very little between Walter White before Breaking Bad and even in the first episode, and Heisenberg, and even the Heisenberg from Season 1 and elsewhere are little different save the hesitance to kill (and after Krazy-8), is dealt with real quick (possibly out of necessity). And while admittedly they were not that bad before the events of Breaking Bad, they also do not bode well for Walter as a character even if the show was mundane.

  • @strahinjavuklisevic4008
    @strahinjavuklisevic4008 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing analysis. Great job

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. We try our best to make interesting discussions for everyone!

    • @strahinjavuklisevic4008
      @strahinjavuklisevic4008 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thedefinitiveopinion And you're doing a great job. I hope your channel starts to grow more

  • @zaodedong9935
    @zaodedong9935 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One thing I found very interesting about jesse, you could definitely tell he feared being alone when he had the party that just never stopped at his parents house after he bought it.
    Not only did it show his fear of being alone, it showed his need to please others, and to be loved and seen as kind of a provider.
    He truly was an "abused child" trying to grow up, and be a man.
    One thing I believe that the viewer has in common with Jesse is the fear of loneliness, and that's why we ended up caring so much about him in the end.

  • @user-zc5it5fx3w
    @user-zc5it5fx3w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Walter used Jesse, but ultimately cared deeply about him. At the end, he rescues Jesse.

  • @Carbonclearly
    @Carbonclearly ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even Todd manipulated him. It's only until he escapes from the Nazi's that he decides that he will never be manipulated again, which is seen through how he acts in El Camino. All of these shows and movies are written so well.

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesses character development was great to watch and it’s great that we got El Camino go see its fruition.

  • @jasonblundelldobebussing
    @jasonblundelldobebussing 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    0:14 yooo, why Jesse shows his naked picture to Gale

  • @mewgiah8057
    @mewgiah8057 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    While it's true Walt was manipulative, people go to great lengths to make excuses for Jesse.
    Jesse is literally a drug dealer working with the Cartel. He knew from day one the risks, and yet was never willing to get his hands dirty when it required him to.
    Literally so many of the shows conflicts can be directly traced back to Jesse and Walt having to clean up for him or get his hands dirty to protect them.
    Take Jane for instance. Walt didn't want to kill her. It tortured him. But Jesse literally ratted out his partner and put Walt in a situation where a Junkie could expose them any moment to police.
    Jane literally blackmails Walt because Jesse gave out his personal information. Making matters worse Jane has relapsed and sent Jesse down a spiraling addiction which again puts Walt and anyone they work with in danger.
    Later on in the show Jesse starts throwing bricks of cash out his car window while they are working for Gus. He becomes a complete loose cannon and even tries to murder two employees. Gus is not a man to mess with and Walt literally ruins his entire reputation with him by refusing to cut Jesse loose. Walt literally interferes on behalf of Jesse which puts him on Gus' hit list.
    While its sad Jesse had to eventually kill Gale, that entire situation was created because of Jesse's erratic actions.
    Walt would have been better off cooking with Gale as he actually understood the science and respected it. He was also stable and reliable.
    Again Jesse knew the career they were in and yet time and time again put both him and Walt in danger for stupid reasons. Walt and Gus would have even got a long if it wasn't for Gus challenging Walt on Jesse.
    Also let's not forget Jesse is responsible for killing many innocent people by creating and selling a highly addictive drug. The dude isn't some Saint.
    Again Walt could be a real bastard. But there are so many times when he had to get blood on his hands because Jesse acted like a spoiled child. And then after Walt does what needs to be done to keep them from going down people act as if he's a complete monster.
    Hell even after Walt takes Gus out and they are in the clear working with Lydia, it's Jesse who ruins everything by being a rat.
    Walt does share some of the responsibility as he should have cut Jesse a long time ago. But it's not as if he could as Jesse was constantly threatening to expose Walt in Season 2 and 3. And whatever you want to say about Walt he definitely cared for Jesse.

  • @c.harlotte
    @c.harlotte ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video! I’ve been obsessed with Breaking Bad analysis videos lol 😅

  • @catchyme135
    @catchyme135 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good stuff bro keep it up 👍🏻👍

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching both this and the Whiplash video! We really appreciate all the kindness and support! Looking forward to seeing you at our next videos!

  • @miguelisaurusbruh1158
    @miguelisaurusbruh1158 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    4:30 it looks like Walter White got jumpscared by Heinserberg

  • @DapperBunger1
    @DapperBunger1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so many people are getting pissed off about the blurs which is just stupid. Literally all they have to do is read the description once to understand

  • @bane9951
    @bane9951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor Jesse, but still goes to show that being stupid is one of the worst things you can do in life

  • @JacobC479
    @JacobC479 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Sopranos, The Wire, Boardwalk Empire, Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are the best shows I’ve ever seen.

  • @lokkiirl4793
    @lokkiirl4793 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a good video. Seeing that you have anything less that a few dozen thousand subs feels illegal

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much 🙏 that means a lot. Hopefully we will grow and get the opportunity to make more videos for everyone! We’re glad you enjoyed and feel free to check out our past video about chasing greatness in the movie Whiplash if you liked this one! Cheers!

  • @weezerfan084
    @weezerfan084 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is a great video and will come in handy for me later on. I got my mother started on "Breaking Bad" and am currently trying to explain to her how the deaths of the people on the aeroplanes at the end of season 2 are in a slight way Walters fault b/c of his action/inaction with Jane. She is refusing to see Walt as doing anything more than protecting Jesse from death; maybe it'll change when she sees what he does with Brock. it'll be good to be able to show her this video after she's done with the series if she still doesn't get it. Thank you for helping me be able show her who Walt really is through this video, it's much appreciated.

  • @Cobalt_Ink
    @Cobalt_Ink ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why am I being recommended so many quality small breaking bad channels lol (not like I’m complaining)
    Great vid!! Subscribed :)

  • @therideneverends1697
    @therideneverends1697 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the way these characters interact point out a human aspect thats often left out in alot of series be it books, movies or TV, usually people are portrayed as either genuinely caring, or being manipulators. In reality people are perfectly capable of both, infact in real instances of manipulation its most often *because* someone cares, and they care so much that they work to make themselves the victims ground. Look at the typical example of an abusive relationship one partner convinces the other that something is wrong with their friends group, or familly members, ect ect, and convinces the other to cut ties, eventually they are left with them as their only point of contact.
    I think you can see that paralelled in the series, sure Walter manipulates him for business purposes, but he also manipulates him because he wants to be looked up to by Jessie, he wants to be admired by someone, something his real son simply doesent. Jessie is a way to get that feeling of haveing someone look up to him, while at the same time facilitating his business interests

    • @thedefinitiveopinion
      @thedefinitiveopinion  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely. Breaking Bad is great in part because of its complex and multi-dimensional characters. The sheer amount of layers to show allow us to create fresh argumentative video essays even 10 years after its release!

  • @MathewSan_
    @MathewSan_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video 🔝👍

  • @thysweetlord
    @thysweetlord 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For how many times Jesse was referred to as manipulated and having a character susceptible to being manipulated, so few examples were given.

  • @micahbenecke6169
    @micahbenecke6169 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great vid btw !

  • @ruffruggednraw
    @ruffruggednraw ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s bizarre how people would treat this as a meme

  • @godwarrior3403
    @godwarrior3403 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No Walter didn't love Jesse. He loved to control Jesse. And anyone else he could. He loved that Jesse needed him. That's why he sabotaged Gail ("I said 85") Gail didn't need him. Walt needed Jesse because he could be the alpha in the room. Remember the scene where Walt's in the waiting room with the other cancer patient having the "Who's in control til then? Me." speech? He ends it by saying "That's how I live my life." The very next scene opens with him putting on the suit to cook for Gus, to whom he is a slave. And not only a slave, but such a slave he had to k*ll another man just to have enough control over his own life to remain Gus's slave. Walter is the beta in the room with every other criminal he encounters, he just thinks he's hard, but nobody else does.
    He compares himself to Gus at their first meeting, only to be humbled. He wears the black hat he seems to think looks hard when he's trying to send an image of being a big boy, and I believe not by coincidence, he usually ends up in a second hand embarrassment inducing situation while wearing it. Like when he wore it to meet with Tuco and say "I want all of it" because he thought so lowly of these criminals that he considered himself just as hard as them just for being there, but then he crumbles and freaks out at the beating Tuco gave his man. A normal reaction, but not the hard character Walt wants to sell us on when he wears that hat. However with Jesse, he truly is the alpha because Jesse doesn't have Walt's one true special advantage. Intelligence. Jesse isn't smart enough to fend off Walt's BS and doesn't have great boundaries. He can't simply take one look at Walt and see this is a dude who's only able to be in the room because he's a great chemist, and otherwise of no value to street stuff. Walt and Jesse's relationship is based mostly in a narcissistic control cycle. So if you call it love when your toxic ex keeps mistreating you and you go back to him or her because you lack boundaries and at least have someone there to not feel alone, then yeah Walt loved Jesse. Or cared about him. But not in actuality, no he didn't. Sometimes things are simple, and if someone poisons a child to emotionally manipulate you, they don't care about you.

  • @noahatlas5240
    @noahatlas5240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Just one request: the music was a touch too loud that it was distracting. Please consider losing the volume of the background noise in the future

  • @jnort95
    @jnort95 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video!