Welcome back to YT👍. It’s really interesting watching this again after the early Patreon release and associated AMA (highly recommended). The comments are also interesting to read. But what really stands out, even at this early stage, is the number of views and comments. I think it shows a real appetite and love for the content you are producing. Can’t wait for more
It's fair to say that this video is doing pretty well thus far thanks Martin; giving me lots of food for thought on where I and how I want to take the channel thus far; I'm really touched that you noticed :-). Said AMA is going to go live shortly; I was having some umms and ahh's about editing it as we touched on some pretty heavy topics but re-watching it I feel what we discussed can be understood to come from a good place...wow...talk about a teaser for folks hey?!
Interesting that you noticed inconsistency with the spokes. That would play havoc with tensions I guess. Good work Ryan. Looks like you did a really precise job there.
Thanks Paul: I try my best! I've since got my hands on some of the bladed rather than oval affairs and those are much more consistent: building with them was easier for sure 👍🏻
MARTIN! Great to hear from you; email incoming ;-)! You know I even added 'Master Wheel Builder' to my business cards of late; I'm not afraid to note that I've clocked WELL over my 10,000 hours this past decade and a bit ;-). I'm reading 'The Craftsman' by Richard Sennett right now and re-reading a bunch of other stuff around craft in general; I think there's a real politic to it.
As usual brilliant. Glad your on screen again - looking forward to how to build a wheel pt 3. Anyone thinking of signing up for a future build your own wheel weekend course - don't hesitate it's well worth the experience. Understanding how wheels achieve what they do will boost your abilities on the bike, be it road xc or like me MTB. It will make you a more capable rider. And Ryan is a brilliant guide.
Mega thanks Tony and thanks for your kind words about the weekenders! I love teaching and am now also offering 1 to 1 classes on a day basis too during the working week! It was a pleasure having you and I'm stoked to be reminded that you live close by; we'll grab that coffee soon! Pt3 is here (th-cam.com/video/mzv5T4OBFTw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RyanBuildsWheels) but because it's only the second step (Pt 1 is "Tools you'll need") I get the confusion. Pt4 being edited this week / next and will be the next video uploaded :-D! Keep your eyes peeled!
Utterly fantastic inspiring video! And what a story. I'll be coming to you for something similar at some point. Have you tried using Berd spokes for a similar ultralight build?
I look forward to hearing from you Kev 🤜🏻! I sure do have experience with Berd: Building wheels with BERD SPOKES. NEW Berd TALON HUB released! th-cam.com/video/yLy1JdSTHAo/w-d-xo.html
@@RyanBuildsWheels Excellent. I'll be looking for two pairs of weight weenie super light aero wheels at some point next year. One rim brake pair; one disc brake.
Beautiful pair of wheels Ryan! I happen to have build similar spec wheels in the past (same hubs, same spokes) The inconsistency of thickness, the holding part, and slight twist on some really makes a test for experience specially tensioning. Btw, adding closed bed rims takes your fingers for a good workout 😂
Very cool! Closed bed though...EURGH! Now THAT is a truly patience testing build Citaly! If you do another carbon spoke build with this manufacturers spokes then I can indeed highly suggest the Aero spokes; consistency is much better :-).
I just saw I had the same tool. The nipples were so short at the hub and because you have to thread in the spoke, I had to grind the tool down to be able to tighten down nipple to spoke that was with DT swiss 240 hub I own a mobile bicycle repair business, I do not build wheels yet I can straighten wheels but it took me six hours to get the old wheel apart and put in the new spokes because they sent me a new spokes. The spokes do have a failure rate. Thank you.
Aye; assembly was a pain! I've now built with the larger Aero spokes and those were much quicker; not sure I'll go with the thinner spokes if building in carbon again.
Just found your channel dude.. awesome your very skilled 😊.. subscribed, read about your ADHD etc in the description.. hope you’re ok buddy and interested to see more vids. Pete 🚴🏻🚴🏻👍
Wlecome onboard Pete! It's been a RIDE but I'm learning loads right now and in the future will defintiely be making a video about the ADHD stuff for sure! It's pretty all encompassing and I appreciate your kind words :-D
Would a Jobst Brant style tensiometer (like the one that Wheel Fanatyk sells) solve the problem of the variability of spoke diameter/thickness? Since you reset the bezel of the indicator in that design to zero when you apply it to each spoke it removes the influence caused by spoke diameter variabililty.
I had some wheels built by Light Bicycle, carbon spokes, 25mm deep rims and extra light hubs. Less than a kilogram to two. Unfortunately when i came to build the bike, 8 spokes had let go! They had😢been touched for 6 months, just were awaiting their build. I would not trust carbon titanium spokes. Ive had them rebuilt with berd ropes, weight is 931g the two:-)
Hey @Firmbutton6485; what do you mean by 'let go' please? I'd really like to hear; had the spokes failed in some way? When did you first buy the wheels would be super interesting to know too! Was it LB who rebuilt them for you or did you have to go with someone local? Extralites on Berd will be a fantastic set so great to hear you got a killer set of wheels in the end!
@@RyanBuildsWheels the titanium ends, where they screw into the rims had come apart completely. 8 out of the 48 before they were even fitted to the bike. I will ping you some pics by your website.
Aw Matt! I'm so sorry :'-(!!! I'm only an hour or so away over the Bridge and the riding around here is excellent; you are MORE than welcome to get in touch to come by for a cuppa :-).
I do all my own wheel builds too. I don't buy carbon. I mostly try to get all my parts for my bikes from US companies which as far as I'm concerned make the best quality components. I'm not a weight conscience kind of guy but instead performance for dollar which is where the true value of a bike is. Carbon and light weight junk cost a lot of money but it new lasts long, that's what I have learned over decades of owning bikes. I'm done throwing money away especially on stuff the industry lies about on massive scale these days.
Its a shame that other than extralight, the likes of DT, Easton, HED, etc. don’t sell carbon rims for custom wheel builders. So where do we look? And don’t say light bicycle - I don’t trust their rims
Aside from Extralite - to my knowledge - all of those brands above don't have their 'own' carbon rims per se; they'll all be sourcing from a variety of factories that makes loads of rims for third parties regardless so a 'DT' rim isn't really a DT rim at all for example (but I'm happy to be proven wrong on this point if it needs to be refuted). Don't fall for brand names is my top advice here. Which leaves your question where to look: two high end brands that I'm happy to reccomend are South Industries and @reservewheels3482; I've had great times building both of their products. Venn Cycling are my *go to* option for quality OEM carbon rim options and my own in house range of carbon builds launching this year utilise them exclusively. Paul over at @Mapdec digs em too I believe :-). I'm going to have to stick up for LB though: I've built many of their rims over the years and the only failure I've ever seen was a pressure blow out on one of their lightest models caused by rider error (where pressure from the tubeless system enters the rim). Have you any direct experience with their product?
@@RyanBuildsWheels thank you for the long response! I’ve not had any experience with Light Bicycle, and I take your point on brand names not necessarily manufacturing in-house (most often it’s not!)? I guess my qualm is whether there’s any decent engineering or QC that goes on and that’s what I’d expect to be getting from a brand name. I know that’s not necessarily the case, of course but it’s psychological I suppose. I also don’t like the imperfections of carbon rims - voids, bubbling, lack of compaction…. which isn’t seen. At least with aluminium rims what you see is what you get. I love me a good DT or HED rim. For the average punter that’s all we really need!
Great to see the superior side of wheel building that of the handbuilt.
@steppings5645 thanks: you obviously have good taste😉
Welcome back to YT👍. It’s really interesting watching this again after the early Patreon release and associated AMA (highly recommended). The comments are also interesting to read. But what really stands out, even at this early stage, is the number of views and comments. I think it shows a real appetite and love for the content you are producing. Can’t wait for more
It's fair to say that this video is doing pretty well thus far thanks Martin; giving me lots of food for thought on where I and how I want to take the channel thus far; I'm really touched that you noticed :-).
Said AMA is going to go live shortly; I was having some umms and ahh's about editing it as we touched on some pretty heavy topics but re-watching it I feel what we discussed can be understood to come from a good place...wow...talk about a teaser for folks hey?!
Interesting that you noticed inconsistency with the spokes. That would play havoc with tensions I guess. Good work Ryan. Looks like you did a really precise job there.
Thanks Paul: I try my best!
I've since got my hands on some of the bladed rather than oval affairs and those are much more consistent: building with them was easier for sure 👍🏻
Love that Mapdec and RBW are mates 😍
Thanks Ryan. Big attention to detail. You are a master wheel builder. Best regards Martin
MARTIN! Great to hear from you; email incoming ;-)!
You know I even added 'Master Wheel Builder' to my business cards of late; I'm not afraid to note that I've clocked WELL over my 10,000 hours this past decade and a bit ;-).
I'm reading 'The Craftsman' by Richard Sennett right now and re-reading a bunch of other stuff around craft in general; I think there's a real politic to it.
As usual brilliant. Glad your on screen again - looking forward to how to build a wheel pt 3. Anyone thinking of signing up for a future build your own wheel weekend course - don't hesitate it's well worth the experience. Understanding how wheels achieve what they do will boost your abilities on the bike, be it road xc or like me MTB. It will make you a more capable rider. And Ryan is a brilliant guide.
Mega thanks Tony and thanks for your kind words about the weekenders! I love teaching and am now also offering 1 to 1 classes on a day basis too during the working week! It was a pleasure having you and I'm stoked to be reminded that you live close by; we'll grab that coffee soon!
Pt3 is here (th-cam.com/video/mzv5T4OBFTw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RyanBuildsWheels) but because it's only the second step (Pt 1 is "Tools you'll need") I get the confusion. Pt4 being edited this week / next and will be the next video uploaded :-D! Keep your eyes peeled!
Support your local wheel builder
It's good for you ;-)!
I didn't, I got RBW to do mine whilst living in Bucks. But I now live in Bristol...
great video. great to see you back Ryan. ❤
It's great to be back Lizheng 🎉❤!
Glad to see you back Ryan. You built me a set of wheels for my Mercian early this year. They are stunning.
And a very nice set to build they were John! Lovely to hear from you and thanks very much indeed for the well wishes!
@@RyanBuildsWheels Good luck with your new venture 👍
Utterly fantastic inspiring video! And what a story. I'll be coming to you for something similar at some point.
Have you tried using Berd spokes for a similar ultralight build?
I look forward to hearing from you Kev 🤜🏻!
I sure do have experience with Berd:
Building wheels with BERD SPOKES. NEW Berd TALON HUB released!
th-cam.com/video/yLy1JdSTHAo/w-d-xo.html
@@RyanBuildsWheels Excellent. I'll be looking for two pairs of weight weenie super light aero wheels at some point next year. One rim brake pair; one disc brake.
Beautiful pair of wheels Ryan! I happen to have build similar spec wheels in the past (same hubs, same spokes) The inconsistency of thickness, the holding part, and slight twist on some really makes a test for experience specially tensioning. Btw, adding closed bed rims takes your fingers for a good workout 😂
Very cool! Closed bed though...EURGH! Now THAT is a truly patience testing build Citaly!
If you do another carbon spoke build with this manufacturers spokes then I can indeed highly suggest the Aero spokes; consistency is much better :-).
Really enjoyed listening and watching you. Awesome to see your brain work!
I'm glad someone likes my brain! I'm learning more about it all the time ;-)!
@@RyanBuildsWheels your wheels aren't half bad either
Good to see you back. Just back from using the wheels your team built to drag me up (and down) some Alps. BW, Matthew
Nice! Which bits of the alps did you go to?!
I love that P&K Lie truing stand.
As do I!
Weigh it. Weigh it. Weight it.
Amazing set of wheels! Great video.
LOL! Sorry to keep you waiting ;-)!
I just saw I had the same tool. The nipples were so short at the hub and because you have to thread in the spoke, I had to grind the tool down to be able to tighten down nipple to spoke that was with DT swiss 240 hub I own a mobile bicycle repair business, I do not build wheels yet I can straighten wheels but it took me six hours to get the old wheel apart and put in the new spokes because they sent me a new spokes. The spokes do have a failure rate. Thank you.
Aye; assembly was a pain! I've now built with the larger Aero spokes and those were much quicker; not sure I'll go with the thinner spokes if building in carbon again.
Just found your channel dude.. awesome your very skilled 😊.. subscribed, read about your ADHD etc in the description.. hope you’re ok buddy and interested to see more vids. Pete 🚴🏻🚴🏻👍
Wlecome onboard Pete! It's been a RIDE but I'm learning loads right now and in the future will defintiely be making a video about the ADHD stuff for sure! It's pretty all encompassing and I appreciate your kind words :-D
Would a Jobst Brant style tensiometer (like the one that Wheel Fanatyk sells) solve the problem of the variability of spoke diameter/thickness? Since you reset the bezel of the indicator in that design to zero when you apply it to each spoke it removes the influence caused by spoke diameter variabililty.
An excellent point in case! I'll have to give this a go.
I had some wheels built by Light Bicycle, carbon spokes, 25mm deep rims and extra light hubs. Less than a kilogram to two. Unfortunately when i came to build the bike, 8 spokes had let go! They had😢been touched for 6 months, just were awaiting their build. I would not trust carbon titanium spokes. Ive had them rebuilt with berd ropes, weight is 931g the two:-)
Hey @Firmbutton6485; what do you mean by 'let go' please? I'd really like to hear; had the spokes failed in some way? When did you first buy the wheels would be super interesting to know too! Was it LB who rebuilt them for you or did you have to go with someone local?
Extralites on Berd will be a fantastic set so great to hear you got a killer set of wheels in the end!
@@RyanBuildsWheels the titanium ends, where they screw into the rims had come apart completely. 8 out of the 48 before they were even fitted to the bike. I will ping you some pics by your website.
I see you abandoned Bristol. I was going to pop in! ☹️
Aw Matt! I'm so sorry :'-(!!! I'm only an hour or so away over the Bridge and the riding around here is excellent; you are MORE than welcome to get in touch to come by for a cuppa :-).
Question: how you adjust tension, or replace spoke with hidden nipples eg SwissSide wheels.
With the correct internal nipple driver; a good example would be the Parl Tool SW-15 which allows several options.
@@RyanBuildsWheels Thank you, I was. wondering how to grip the internal nipple..
I do all my own wheel builds too. I don't buy carbon. I mostly try to get all my parts for my bikes from US companies which as far as I'm concerned make the best quality components. I'm not a weight conscience kind of guy but instead performance for dollar which is where the true value of a bike is. Carbon and light weight junk cost a lot of money but it new lasts long, that's what I have learned over decades of owning bikes. I'm done throwing money away especially on stuff the industry lies about on massive scale these days.
One of my next videos will be entitled 'Why Wheel Weight Doesn't Matter' Raymond ;-).
I would stay away from those spokes. I had those spokes on my far sport wheels, and they actually just came apart. The nipple is glued in.
No nipple glueing happening here Mike; which part of the spoke do you mean?
The titanium nipple part at the rim comes apart. Don’t know how to send pictures, but I can show you.
'Flopped it. should of done ropespokes' - diabolical player hater
I'm trying to get the reference but feel I'm missing something ;-).
Its a shame that other than extralight, the likes of DT, Easton, HED, etc. don’t sell carbon rims for custom wheel builders. So where do we look? And don’t say light bicycle - I don’t trust their rims
Aside from Extralite - to my knowledge - all of those brands above don't have their 'own' carbon rims per se; they'll all be sourcing from a variety of factories that makes loads of rims for third parties regardless so a 'DT' rim isn't really a DT rim at all for example (but I'm happy to be proven wrong on this point if it needs to be refuted). Don't fall for brand names is my top advice here.
Which leaves your question where to look: two high end brands that I'm happy to reccomend are South Industries and @reservewheels3482; I've had great times building both of their products.
Venn Cycling are my *go to* option for quality OEM carbon rim options and my own in house range of carbon builds launching this year utilise them exclusively. Paul over at @Mapdec digs em too I believe :-).
I'm going to have to stick up for LB though: I've built many of their rims over the years and the only failure I've ever seen was a pressure blow out on one of their lightest models caused by rider error (where pressure from the tubeless system enters the rim). Have you any direct experience with their product?
A friend of mine who's a German engineer builds lots of light bicycle rims. Only good things to say about them.
I agree. I have a pair I’ve used quite heavily for 8 years. All good.
I built a wheelset using Light Bicycle rims 46mm deep and rim brake compatible. I've had them two seasons now, no problems.
@@RyanBuildsWheels thank you for the long response! I’ve not had any experience with Light Bicycle, and I take your point on brand names not necessarily manufacturing in-house (most often it’s not!)? I guess my qualm is whether there’s any decent engineering or QC that goes on and that’s what I’d expect to be getting from a brand name. I know that’s not necessarily the case, of course but it’s psychological I suppose. I also don’t like the imperfections of carbon rims - voids, bubbling, lack of compaction…. which isn’t seen. At least with aluminium rims what you see is what you get. I love me a good DT or HED rim. For the average punter that’s all we really need!
People still buying hookless rims these days?
Yep!