*Great for a family of 2 or 3. It cooks quinoa, white, jasmine **MyBest.Kitchen** and brown rice really well. Easy to clean and store because of the size. We haven't used the steamer part of it yet.*
*💯😂Great for a family of 2 or 3. It cooks quinoa, white, jasmine **MyBest.Kitchen** and brown rice really well. 💤Easy to clean and store because of the size. We haven't used the steamer part of it yet.*
Yep, I added roof flashing to cover 1/3 of the holes on the Ikea stove. It adds very little weight and makes it more efficient. Great video to add enjoyment to my morning coffee. Thank you.
I am working on that right now. Was looking to see how I could hold the flashing off the strainer about 1/8" to create a wood gas stove. May not be able to do so easily. Thank you for commenting
Great instructional video Mark. I regularly use a veg steamer in the woods, sometimes with a meths stove but often with wood pieces. I find my trangia pot stand works perfectly well to hold the steamer open and to securely hold my pot. I have a hobo stove, like yours and I have adapted the pot stand to fit the top of the veg steamer which holds it very securely.
I have one of those little foldable steamers. I bought it from Aldi 2 years ago, never used it even once lol. I love in a campervan and now I have a use for it thanks to your video! Subscribed. I look forward to you adopting me..... Dad 😁
We don't have the Ikea products here that you folks have there but I do occasionally come across a stainless vegetable steamer in the thrift stores. I too was pleasantly surprised regarding the veggy steamer performance.
I have been playing with a few other thrift store finds turned into stoves as well. Not as compact as the veggie-strainer but work really well. Thanks for commenting Lonnie
I'll be darned...I have considered the veggie steamer over and over but could never figure out how to keep it at a steady diameter. That utility strap is brilliant, cheap, and simple. Thank you.
You sure love your little wood stoves, Mark! I’ve been watching and waiting for those aluminum pot grates to melt. You could do a similar design with some steel flat stock, with minor weight gain. Or, you could surely find something at the thrift store to be cannibalized or modified. Look forward to seeing your solution. Always enjoy your videos. Thanks
Funny that it has not happened to me before. I have found a solution that is cheaper, easier to get a hold of and even easier to fabricate the cross bars from. I am testing it out now. Thank you for commenting
Another Great Side By Side Comparison, Mark ! Gonna hunt up 1 of those Steamers, That's The BeeZ=KneeZ ! Have to Thanks you again for putting me on to Lauren & Dustin's Company, The Best Had So Far ! ATB T God Bless
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I just bought this "stove" and intend to modify it: one of the plans is to cut a hole in the middle so as to put a Trangia in it lower, and the base I would like to make using 3-4 screws screwed around this hole. Can you make a movie about how you made these fold-out legs? - it works brilliantly. Greetings from Poland. :-)
Great ideas for your Ikea build out. I do have a three part series on building an Ikea hobo stove and another video showing the new swing out feet. It is the Super Size Hobo Stove video. Hope this helps
For cross members I use mobile home tie down straps. You can pick one up for $2-$3 at hardware store and cut a dozen pairs out of one strap. Sturdy and light weight.
Hello Mark, thank you for this really fine video. I have enjoyed all of your videos. I have made a couple of the Walmart hobo stoves which I am anxious to to try out. They are comparable to the IKEA stoves, in design. Please keep up your very informative videos. All the best to you and family. 🤗
I bought my large vegetable steamer online and it included a smaller steamer. I found you can flip it upside down (legs and center holder removed) upon the larger one and it will serve as a windscreen and a grill top. If you place a small steel bowl on the coals with another inverted over the top, then place the smaller steamer over the top, you can put hot coals on top of the smaller steamer, like a Dutch Oven and bake with it!
Thank you for this enlightening video 👍 I have the Ikea cutlery drainer and have another use for it now. Annoyingly, threw the vegetable steamer away 😢
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Thanks Mark. I built the Ikea stove based on your videos and have used two stainless steel tent stakes through the row of holes and set an Stanley Adventure Cook Set on the stakes suspended above several different styles of DIY alcohol stoves. As you mentioned in your video, there is a lot of air flow in the Ikea stove so the cook times may not be hurt too much. I do not know how it might perform with a larger pot sitting on the top edge of the Ikea stove. Take care.
More great ideas. I believe the melting temp for aluminum is around 1200 deg F. We were taught a cigarette burns at 800 deg. I like the idea of using a steamer for a windscreen. P.A. and CTC sell extended nuts that would allow you to connect 1/4" aluminum rod pieces together for sturdier tripod legs. Just cut 1/4-20 threads on all ends. Dave from Reallybigmonkey made a DIY Keychain Tripod from a round disc of 1/8" aluminun plate. He just uses sticks with notches for legs and pot hook. I copied it but mine is triangular shape. Different tools. I've decided on 1/2" aluminun tube for feet (swing out like your clamp thingies), on my Ikea hobo stove, and will cut 2 holes opposite each other, to feed wood, one high and one low on opposite sides. Always inspiring. Thanks. Jay.
Another great video! I would never have looked at the vegetable steamer and thought, "That would make a great wood burning stove!" A good example of thinking outside-the-box. I've never seen the Ikea melt aluminum pot stands before, but obviously if the wind cranked up the combustion, it can do it. I don't do metal working, so I don't know what you might be able to substitute for the aluminum for new ones. I'll be interested to see what you come up with.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I found stainless steal rulers at Walmart for $0.97 each that are easy to cut up and have started using them of making cross bars. Thank you for commenting
Yes you do live in a cold part of Canada John😅. The hobo can really put some heat out. Would be great to be able to control when you want that heat. That is something I am working on. Thanks for commenting
Hi from Switzerland 😊. Nice Comparison Mark .. thanks 👍. I have two IKEA Stoves (the higher and lower versions) and have made more for Family Members. Pots consist of, inter alia, modified Stainless Steel (SS) Tea/Coffee/Sugar Containers (as per your Version .. thanks 😊) They fit inside the Stove and cut-to-size SS Bicycle Spokes make for perfect adjustable internal Pot / Alcohol Stove Supports. Pot Stands .. I use the rectangular IKEA SS Pot Stand (sans Plastic Footpieces). Cut lengthways in half, placed on top of the Stove, one Pot Stand does for two stoves. Slots cut into the top of the Stove to accommodate the modified Stand and hold it in place, completes the exercise. Works like a charm and even functions as a Grill of sorts. With 6-8 Charcoal Briquettes, using these Stands I have cooked a Breakfasts consisting of Oats, Toast and Coffee, or Egg, Bacon / Sausage / Steak, Fried Onion, Tomato, Toast and .. Coffee 😊.
Well thought out modifications. I will look for the Ikea SS Pot Stands here in Halifax. Sounds like you made an amazing breakfast with the stove. Thanks for commenting
GREAT idea to use a vegetable steamer. I’ve got a Solo Titan, but it does take space. Not usually an issue on day hikes, but if I will pick up the veg steamer for times when I have to fill the pack to bursting.
Great comparison. I would suggest stainless steel as a replacement for the pot stand that deformed during the test. If that material was not affected in either stove body it shouldn't be affected in the pot stand (I've made pot stands from scrap stainless steel for years and had no issues). If weight is your main concern then a similar thickness of titanium should work but the cost will be more.
Great observation. Actually, I have found an inexpensive and readily available source of stainless steel that can easily be made into a pot stand. I will show it in an up coming video. Thanks for commenting
If you closed the steamer up to the same seize opening I bet they would even be closer to the same? good show. You can use a small nail, safety pins through a couple of the holes in the sides to any seize opening very versatile keep it up always look forward also they make the IKEa legs in stainless seen them in a food lab I worked in
This was a fun comparison burn Mark. Not too important but I was thinking that if you had a trivet the size of the inner ring on your existing trivet, it might make a near perfect concentrated burn on the veggie steamer stove.
I was using my charcoal chimney fire starter as a stove over wood pellets and using some thin aluminum crossbars for support. Before I could get my pot on the fire, the crossbars caved into the fire and melted. So no more aluminum crossbars for me.
I agree. aluminum may be okay for an alcohol stove but not something with real heat. The charcoal chimney can really belt out the BTUs. Thanks for commenting
Hi Mark, your videos are always very interesting and a pleasure to watch. I would like to say that covering the holes in the Ikea stove will likely not improve efficiency but will actually make it less efficient. In order to improve efficiency you control the fuel (adding a piece or two of wood at a time should prolong the burn while decreasing the maximum temperatures), not by blocking the air. My guess is that blocking the holes will prevent the fuel from complete combustion which will cause your stove to smoke and release unburned gases and solids (including carbon monoxide). I have to ask what 'efficiency' has to do with these stoves and I really believe a good burn with plenty of heat is the main objective. Efficiency may be an issue if you are using a stove with limited fuel supply but this is the reason we use biofuel as our fuel. Thank you and have a pleasant day...
Interesting take on the stove performance. I agree if there is a good supply of fuel then efficiency is not all that important. What I look for in a stove is a clean, hot burn that I can vary the intensity of by adding more or less fuel. I do appreciate a stove that has a long burn time with the need to re-fuel. One of my viewers who lives in a hot. wet country (think monsoons) feels the Ikea is inefficient with the always damp wood. I am doing some testing to see what effect limiting air flow will have on performance. I would also like to see if I can increase the wood gassification effect. I guess that is part of the fun of playing with these stoves. Thanks for commenting
I have to admit, I kinda like the way the steamer could be used for a mini fireplace, and that you could put a frying pan on it......but il never give up my firebox!!! 😃
Another great vid! Thanx! I would maybe redo the test when there is close to zero wind perhaps. I wouldn't be too upset about the melting of the aluminum, as you said, it just shows how hot the hobo stove got, aluminum melts at a relatively low temp esp compared to steel, probably stainless steel is what you want in a pot stand like that or perhaps a pot stand similar to the vegetable steamer stove. Again, thanks for the vids, I'm gonna play with these stoves as well. Thanx for the inspiration! I really like how you are re-using inexpensive common products! And so many tests can be done with air flow etc. Oh, one last thing, another interesting thing to try might me to place either of the stoves inside a stainless steel pot with holes in it to sort of act as a wind screen and make it a bit more similar to a wood gas stove that is like that... you've got me thinking! Maybe add a 12V computer fan? of course this does add to pack weight but for back yard experiments...
I agree, the wind played a huge factor in this test. I have since found a great item for making cross-bars. Walmart sells SS rulers for $0.97 CAD. I pick up a number and they have been working much better. I have been considering how to add a fan to the Ikea to turn it into something like a BioLite or VitalGrill. I have not come up with anything yet but will keep at it. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanx! I feel I am prematurely commenting here, I really need to watch more of your vids as you have already covered some answers to some of my questions! But it is fun to be interactive, in any case I am inspired to get back to some backyard wood burning and I do need to bring some of the stove fire out to the woods when I go out for walks w the dog. Since we are on the subject of Fire, consider checking out the technology of MagneGas - TaronisTech.com. I've been using it for years and I do believe it will be a big answer to many various pollution/energy problems. I don't think it is available in Canada yet tho but check out some of my vids if you are interested.
The breeze sure raised the temperature aluminum melts at 660.32°C (1,221°F) well above what you need for cooking. I think trying to reduce the burn temperature would be better then switching to other pot supports though stainless steel ones would work great (try Metals Supermart for some).
It was way to hot for sure. I could have smelted metal..well almost. I agree about slowing the burn down. I have a couple of ideas I am working on for the stove and the cross bars. Thanks for the Metal Mart idea.
For the IKEA drainer stove ... a stainless steel cooling rack should resist heat better (higher melting point). I use different size racks with feet to control the opening size on the steamer. They take up very little room in my kit as they fit inside my camp skillet. I car camp, so weight is not a concern for me. I can use the same racks on my drainer stove as a pot support. These are both great little stoves. I’ve been elevating my drainer stove on a wire rack but have have considered using conduit clamps for more stability. I saw another video where you fabricated legs. Do you have a preference of one over the other for stability? The conduit clamps seem more space saving. I think my drainer stove is taller (its the Walmart version), so it may tip more easily. And as for limiting air flow in it, I think a piece of an aluminum foil baking sheet wrapped around and secured with wire would work fine. Then it will be easily removed when more air is beneficial.
I am planning an update video for the Ikea Hobo Stove that should answer all your questions. Now I am using a stainless steel ruler I bought at Walmart for the cross bars. I do prefer the conduit clamps as they extend out past the stove for more stability. I also really like the Seige Stove cross members for the best all round way to hack the Ikea strainer.
I was looking at something for a 10" cast iron skillet while I'm car camping. I might see if I can find the vegetable steamer at my local thrift store.
You may want to look for something a bit more heavy duty for a 10" cast iron pan. While you are at the thrift store take a look for a stainless steel colander or strainer. I have a couple of videos on using those as well. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I would probably just come up with a external pot support for it or just get a large can and make it work like the lixada stove hybrid you came up with. If anything just having the strainer to build up a fire when the ground is wet would be nice.
Right on. Actually I have tried that and it does work well. At the same time, the sides of the steamer do not extend up very high over the top or the stove combo. A lower stove would work even better. Thanks for commenting
I'd probably fab up a pot stand for the steamer that was like the ikea one, but with several slots for different sized openings. I have made them from thrift store bread knife blades, due to it being a cheap source of stainless material.
I also wanted to mention that I use a thrift store camera tripod with a chain hooked to the crank handle to move the pots up and down, but not all tripods will work well. Study the design before you buy.
Enjoy your videos. I have been experimenting with these stoves. What I want is to maintain and control a continuous burn. It’s great to create a hot fire, but being able to control the burn. Have you any thoughts?
So, there are a number of things to consider around controlling the fire in a stove like these. Variables that you can work with include; the type of wood (hard VS soft), the thickness of the cut pieces and the amount used at one time. Next is controlling air flow. If you can reduce (not eliminate) the amount of air getting to the wood it will slow the fire down. One thing I have done on hobo stove builds is to cut two small feed ports at 90 degrees to each other and feed in small sticks similar to a Firebox stove. This helps make for a smaller fire with good control. Hope this helps
I shouldn't worry about the idea aluminum pot stand melting, because normally you would never allow your stove to flame up like that with so much wood and so much wind. After all alot of us do use aluminum pots to cook with.
I agree mostly but I did have an aluminum pot stand melt due to excessive heat. Windy conditions made the Ikea into an inferno. Now I use stainless steel rulers to make them. Thanks for commenting
You are most wise. Your video on different fire box - hobo stove creations especially for the large hosted field trip has opened my mind to their usefulness.
HI IF YOU HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF STEAMER WITH HOLES LIKE THAT ONE, YOU COULD TRY SLIDING A STEEL ROD THROUGH 2 ALIGNED HOLES IN 2 ADJACENT PETALS THAT LINE UP. THEN SLIDE IT ACROSS ABOUT (180`) TO 2 ALIGNED HOLES IN THE OTHER SIDE. DO THIS 2 OR 3 TIMES AND THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU THE LOCK TO KEEP IT FROM OPINING BIGGER OR SMALLER. IT ALSO MAKES A RACK TO PUT YOUR COOKING POT OR PAN ON. IF THE OPENING IS SMALLER THAN YOUR POT OR PAN JUST PUT THE POT OR PAN ON THE PETALS TIPS. ALSO IF IT DID NOT HAVE LEGS, JUST SET IT ON SOME STONES TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND. JUST AN IDEA.
YOU ARE WELCOME. THIS LOOKS LIKE A FUN LITTEL STOVE. I JUST THOUGHT, IT MIGHT LAY FLAT INSIDE A FRY PAN WITH LID OF THE RIGHT SIZE. YOU CAN BOIL COFFIE OR TEA WATER IN THAT, AND ALSO COOK IN IT. STUFF IT IN A SACK LIKE THE OTHERS, AND OFF YOU GO. GREAT IDEA, AND 1 LESS POT.
The ikea pot stand: have you ytried strips of tins from vegetable cans? I dont know how strong it would be but you could double them up. And, as far as time to bring to a boil, you actually lit the ikea first and talked for a bit before lighting the steamer. Therefore, I think the steamer is actually a bit faster.
Good observation. I have had very good performance from the steamer in the past but in the test the added heat may have contributed to the quick boil time. Thanks for commenting
More seriously, if your revenue streams are starting to permit it, a review of the "Titanium BBQ Grill Plate" would be greatly appreciated. It looks like it would work wonders with the wider strainer-fire. Lots of identical ones on AliExpress, here's one example. Looks like under $25 US for a solid titanium grill is an amazing bit of kit, not cheap - but not expensive considering either and as it's solid not coated looks like it could be very long lasting indeed.
Thanks. Posting ideas sounds like camera work and trying to get it on You Tube. I've no capability to do that. But perhaps if I could give that tripod triangle to you, you could rig it up like Dave did, hang a pot of water, and post it for yourself. 4 sticks of your chosing for the legs and pot hanger. Could be good for another video.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I had a look in Kmart. Stainless colanders are huge compared to utensil drainer. Might make good make shift fire pit 😎 though might need to drill a few air vent holes in bottom support ring to get airflow from the bottom.
Well aware of shipping in Canada. Just placed an order to the U.S. $74USD. With shipping $200.10 CAD. Do you have a hydrant to left of your driveway? If so, I can always find an excuse to visit Lee Valley and drop the tripod thingy off to you. With diabetes, it's not safe to venture too far anymore, so it looks like I'm 'arm chairing it now'. I'd probably never use it anyway, just like making 'shiny stuff'. Shiny is good.
Not familiar with facebook, will check with my wife. Actually had to search for the disc for about 1 1/2 hours since I'm always putting things away in a safe place. Way too many safe places for sure. I did find it though.
I think it is incorrect to call any type of wood stove a gassifier stove. What happens when we burn wood in any kind of stove - first of all we apply heat to the wood to light it and the heated wood gives off gas which we see as the flame and this continues until all the gas is used up and we are left with charcoal which will continue to burn and give off heat until all the carbon is used up and we are left with ash..If you restrict air to the fire it will smoke and this is wasted fuel. In the Bush Buddy type wood stoves the super heated air which rises in the double wall exits from the top holes and burns with the wood gas to give a double burn .This is what people wrongly call gasification The reason you dont see the double burn immediately is because the stove has to heat up in order for the air to heat up and rise in the double wall acting like a chimney In the box type single wall wood stoves once sufficient heat is built up they will burn just as efficiently as long as sufficient air (oxygen ) is available In both types of stove if they are loaded properly and lit from the top there will be little or no smoke.
*Great for a family of 2 or 3. It cooks quinoa, white, jasmine **MyBest.Kitchen** and brown rice really well. Easy to clean and store because of the size. We haven't used the steamer part of it yet.*
Thanks for sharing!!
*💯😂Great for a family of 2 or 3. It cooks quinoa, white, jasmine **MyBest.Kitchen** and brown rice really well. 💤Easy to clean and store because of the size. We haven't used the steamer part of it yet.*
Someone might be able to do that
Thanks for showing me the vegetable steamer stove. My wife will be so thrilled that I've found yet another type of stove to play with!
LOL...don't use your wife's. Better pick one up at the thrift store. Thanks for commenting
You took the words right out of my old lady's mouth lol 😜😆 exactly another stove to play with 😆
Hi. A vegetable steamer for stove is a great idea! Recently I’ve been watching various stove YTs. The most unique idea and it works for me! Thank you👍
Glad you liked it. I have a few other DIY stove videos as well. Thanks for commenting
I love the vegetable steamer stove for us folks who lack tools for creating the IKEA stove. Also, the daisy trivet is too cute!!!
Simple and cheap. The best DIY projects. Cute is an extra😊Thanks for commenting
Now the wait for the modified hobo stove video begins. Looking forward to it. Great video as always.
Yup...working on a couple of ideas now. Thanks for commenting
Yep, I added roof flashing to cover 1/3 of the holes on the Ikea stove. It adds very little weight and makes it more efficient. Great video to add enjoyment to my morning coffee. Thank you.
I am working on that right now. Was looking to see how I could hold the flashing off the strainer about 1/8" to create a wood gas stove. May not be able to do so easily. Thank you for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft look at PC motherboard stand off screws. That would probably do what you are trying to accomplish.
@@AtomicBleach Interesting idea. I will take a look. Thanks
Great instructional video Mark. I regularly use a veg steamer in the woods, sometimes with a meths stove but often with wood pieces. I find my trangia pot stand works perfectly well to hold the steamer open and to securely hold my pot. I have a hobo stove, like yours and I have adapted the pot stand to fit the top of the veg steamer which holds it very securely.
Glad you liked the video. You have some great tips to share as well. Thanks for commenting
I have one of those little foldable steamers. I bought it from Aldi 2 years ago, never used it even once lol. I love in a campervan and now I have a use for it thanks to your video!
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Never thought to use a steamer as a stove. Great tip if you have to improvise.
They work pretty well. Thanks for commenting
We don't have the Ikea products here that you folks have there but I do occasionally come across a stainless vegetable steamer in the thrift stores. I too was pleasantly surprised regarding the veggy steamer performance.
Far North Bushcraft And Survival , I’ve found them at WalMart, $3-$4.
I have been playing with a few other thrift store finds turned into stoves as well. Not as compact as the veggie-strainer but work really well. Thanks for commenting Lonnie
They sell them online, and the utensil strainers from walmart are similar, but are taller and a smaller diameter.
I'll be darned...I have considered the veggie steamer over and over but could never figure out how to keep it at a steady diameter. That utility strap is brilliant, cheap, and simple. Thank you.
Glad the video was helpful. Thanks for commenting
You sure love your little wood stoves, Mark! I’ve been watching and waiting for those aluminum pot grates to melt. You could do a similar design with some steel flat stock, with minor weight gain. Or, you could surely find something at the thrift store to be cannibalized or modified. Look forward to seeing your solution. Always enjoy your videos. Thanks
Mark Hosbach I cannibalized a pair of cheap stainless steel bbq tongs for my stove. They look a bit funny, but function just fine.
Funny that it has not happened to me before. I have found a solution that is cheaper, easier to get a hold of and even easier to fabricate the cross bars from. I am testing it out now. Thank you for commenting
I like that idea. I have found an alternative but may try that as well. Thanks for commenting
Another Great Side By Side Comparison, Mark ! Gonna hunt up 1 of those Steamers, That's The BeeZ=KneeZ ! Have to Thanks you again for putting me on to Lauren & Dustin's Company, The Best Had So Far ! ATB T God Bless
Hey Terry. Glad you are enjoying the Rampage coffee. I hope to get out soon and show a few more ways of using it in the woods. Thanks for commenting
Enjoyed the comparison very much. Always enjoy your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for commenting
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making your own functional wood stoves is very satisfying. Thanks for commenting and subscribing
I just bought this "stove" and intend to modify it: one of the plans is to cut a hole in the middle so as to put a Trangia in it lower, and the base I would like to make using 3-4 screws screwed around this hole. Can you make a movie about how you made these fold-out legs? - it works brilliantly. Greetings from Poland. :-)
Great ideas for your Ikea build out. I do have a three part series on building an Ikea hobo stove and another video showing the new swing out feet. It is the Super Size Hobo Stove video. Hope this helps
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For cross members I use mobile home tie down straps. You can pick one up for $2-$3 at hardware store and cut a dozen pairs out of one strap. Sturdy and light weight.
I have not heard of those before but will take a look for them. Thanks for commenting
Hello Mark, thank you for this really fine video. I have enjoyed all of your videos. I have made a couple of the Walmart hobo stoves which I am anxious to to try out. They are comparable to the IKEA stoves, in design. Please keep up your very informative videos. All the best to you and family. 🤗
I am glad you continue to enjoy my videos. Thanks for commenting
I bought my large vegetable steamer online and it included a smaller steamer. I found you can flip it upside down (legs and center holder removed) upon the larger one and it will serve as a windscreen and a grill top. If you place a small steel bowl on the coals with another inverted over the top, then place the smaller steamer over the top, you can put hot coals on top of the smaller steamer, like a Dutch Oven and bake with it!
Interesting idea. Will have to give it a try. Thanks
Mark, thanks for sharing, this was a good review of options available. Proves you don't have to spend top dollar to get great results. Atb 👍
I agree totally. They may not match a Firebox in performance but they are so much more affordable. Thanks for commenting
Thank you for this enlightening video 👍 I have the Ikea cutlery drainer and have another use for it now. Annoyingly, threw the vegetable steamer away 😢
I see them all the time at the thrift store. Cheap enough to buy and try. Thanks for commenting
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With all the summer fire closures around here I will stick to my cannister stove. Thanks...maybe good for winter. Stay safe!
You can never be too safe when it comes to fire safety. Thanks for commenting
I am going to make a vegetable steamer stove! Never thought 💭 about it, thanks
Hope you like it!.Thank you for commenting
Thanks Mark. I built the Ikea stove based on your videos and have used two stainless steel tent stakes through the row of holes and set an Stanley Adventure Cook Set on the stakes suspended above several different styles of DIY alcohol stoves. As you mentioned in your video, there is a lot of air flow in the Ikea stove so the cook times may not be hurt too much. I do not know how it might perform with a larger pot sitting on the top edge of the Ikea stove. Take care.
I have a series of videos on making a hobo stove that may help. Thanks for commenting
More great ideas. I believe the melting temp for aluminum is around 1200 deg F. We were taught a cigarette burns at 800 deg. I like the idea of using a steamer for a windscreen. P.A. and CTC sell extended nuts that would allow you to connect 1/4" aluminum rod pieces together for sturdier tripod legs. Just cut 1/4-20 threads on all ends. Dave from Reallybigmonkey made a DIY Keychain Tripod from a round disc of 1/8" aluminun plate. He just uses sticks with notches for legs and pot hook. I copied it but mine is triangular shape. Different tools. I've decided on 1/2" aluminun tube for feet (swing out like your clamp thingies), on my Ikea hobo stove, and will cut 2 holes opposite each other, to feed wood, one high and one low on opposite sides. Always inspiring. Thanks. Jay.
Wow. you have a lot of great ideas going there. You may want to consider posting some of your ideas. Thanks for commenting
Another great video! I would never have looked at the vegetable steamer and thought, "That would make a great wood burning stove!" A good example of thinking outside-the-box.
I've never seen the Ikea melt aluminum pot stands before, but obviously if the wind cranked up the combustion, it can do it. I don't do metal working, so I don't know what you might be able to substitute for the aluminum for new ones. I'll be interested to see what you come up with.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I found stainless steal rulers at Walmart for $0.97 each that are easy to cut up and have started using them of making cross bars. Thank you for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft D'oh! I've seen you use those on another video and completely forgot about them. Sounds like a great idea!
MEtal strap, brilliant. Could use a pop rivet too. Well done Mark
Right on. Good suggestion. Thanks for commenting
Good work Mark. I kind of like the higher radiant heat off the Hobo stove, I live in a colder climate.. Thanks..
Yes you do live in a cold part of Canada John😅. The hobo can really put some heat out. Would be great to be able to control when you want that heat. That is something I am working on. Thanks for commenting
Good video. I've not tried using a vegetable steamer for a stove, yet. Enjoyed it.
Cheap enough to try out for sure. Thanks for commenting Mark
Hi from Switzerland 😊.
Nice Comparison Mark .. thanks 👍.
I have two IKEA Stoves (the higher and lower versions) and have made more for Family Members. Pots consist of, inter alia, modified Stainless Steel (SS) Tea/Coffee/Sugar Containers (as per your Version .. thanks 😊) They fit inside the Stove and cut-to-size SS Bicycle Spokes make for perfect adjustable internal Pot / Alcohol Stove Supports.
Pot Stands .. I use the rectangular IKEA SS Pot Stand (sans Plastic Footpieces). Cut lengthways in half, placed on top of the Stove, one Pot Stand does for two stoves. Slots cut into the top of the Stove to accommodate the modified Stand and hold it in place, completes the exercise.
Works like a charm and even functions as a Grill of sorts. With 6-8 Charcoal Briquettes, using these Stands I have cooked a Breakfasts consisting of Oats, Toast and Coffee, or Egg, Bacon / Sausage / Steak, Fried Onion, Tomato, Toast and .. Coffee 😊.
Well thought out modifications. I will look for the Ikea SS Pot Stands here in Halifax. Sounds like you made an amazing breakfast with the stove. Thanks for commenting
is this what you are using www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/laemplig-trivet-stainless-steel-30111087/
@@MarkYoungBushcraft .. Yep 👍, but just the smaller version thereof (4 rods and 2 cross-pieces).
@@MarkYoungBushcraft 👍😊.
GREAT idea to use a vegetable steamer. I’ve got a Solo Titan, but it does take space. Not usually an issue on day hikes, but if I will pick up the veg steamer for times when I have to fill the pack to bursting.
Glad you liked the video. I also have the Titan and rarely carry it anymore because of its size. Thanks for commenting
Great comparison. I would suggest stainless steel as a replacement for the pot stand that deformed during the test. If that material was not affected in either stove body it shouldn't be affected in the pot stand (I've made pot stands from scrap stainless steel for years and had no issues). If weight is your main concern then a similar thickness of titanium should work but the cost will be more.
Great observation. Actually, I have found an inexpensive and readily available source of stainless steel that can easily be made into a pot stand. I will show it in an up coming video. Thanks for commenting
I do love your VS videos
I have a few more in mind yet but am open to suggestions. Thank you for commenting
If you closed the steamer up to the same seize opening I bet they would even be closer to the same? good show. You can use a small nail, safety pins through a couple of the holes in the sides to any seize opening very versatile keep it up always look forward also they make the IKEa legs in stainless seen them in a food lab I worked in
More great suggestions. SS Ikea legs?. Must look for them
This was a fun comparison burn Mark. Not too important but I was thinking that if you had a trivet the size of the inner ring on your existing trivet, it might make a near perfect concentrated burn on the veggie steamer stove.
Interesting idea. I will see what I can come up with. Thanks for commenting
Love your yard!
Thank you. We are fortunate to have great neighbours so there are no fences on either side of us giving the impression of a much larger yard
Enjoying your stove vids Mark. But I've gotta say, you look much more backwoods badass in your Tilly! ;-)
LOL...I do love my Tilley. It just seems overkill for the city. Thanks for commenting
I was using my charcoal chimney fire starter as a stove over wood pellets and using some thin aluminum crossbars for support. Before I could get my pot on the fire, the crossbars caved into the fire and melted. So no more aluminum crossbars for me.
I agree. aluminum may be okay for an alcohol stove but not something with real heat. The charcoal chimney can really belt out the BTUs. Thanks for commenting
Oh...hey thanks for posting that on the charcoal starter..metallurgy I will be keeping in mind.
Hi Mark, your videos are always very interesting and a pleasure to watch. I would like to say that covering the holes in the Ikea stove will likely not improve efficiency but will actually make it less efficient. In order to improve efficiency you control the fuel (adding a piece or two of wood at a time should prolong the burn while decreasing the maximum temperatures), not by blocking the air. My guess is that blocking the holes will prevent the fuel from complete combustion which will cause your stove to smoke and release unburned gases and solids (including carbon monoxide). I have to ask what 'efficiency' has to do with these stoves and I really believe a good burn with plenty of heat is the main objective. Efficiency may be an issue if you are using a stove with limited fuel supply but this is the reason we use biofuel as our fuel. Thank you and have a pleasant day...
Interesting take on the stove performance. I agree if there is a good supply of fuel then efficiency is not all that important. What I look for in a stove is a clean, hot burn that I can vary the intensity of by adding more or less fuel. I do appreciate a stove that has a long burn time with the need to re-fuel. One of my viewers who lives in a hot. wet country (think monsoons) feels the Ikea is inefficient with the always damp wood. I am doing some testing to see what effect limiting air flow will have on performance. I would also like to see if I can increase the wood gassification effect. I guess that is part of the fun of playing with these stoves. Thanks for commenting
thank you for sharing your video with us
My pleasure. Thanks for commenting
I have to admit, I kinda like the way the steamer could be used for a mini fireplace, and that you could put a frying pan on it......but il never give up my firebox!!! 😃
The Firebox is still king....at least until the titanium Firebox comes out😆
Mark Young 😃😃
Try using 1-inch steel bars for the pot holders, the steel probably won't warp due to heat, just a thought!
Good idea. Most steel bars are a bit heavy and harder to work with but I have found something I am testing out now. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft did it warp because of heat or did you bend it? That's a bummer it it warped.
@@johnmichaels4330 it warped for sure. Actually started to melt. I am now using stainless steel rulers from Walmart
@@MarkYoungBushcraft darn. I was really hoping they would hold up..... but the rulers probably don't weigh much either. Ill try to catch up. Lol.
Another great vid! Thanx! I would maybe redo the test when there is close to zero wind perhaps. I wouldn't be too upset about the melting of the aluminum, as you said, it just shows how hot the hobo stove got, aluminum melts at a relatively low temp esp compared to steel, probably stainless steel is what you want in a pot stand like that or perhaps a pot stand similar to the vegetable steamer stove. Again, thanks for the vids, I'm gonna play with these stoves as well. Thanx for the inspiration! I really like how you are re-using inexpensive common products! And so many tests can be done with air flow etc.
Oh, one last thing, another interesting thing to try might me to place either of the stoves inside a stainless steel pot with holes in it to sort of act as a wind screen and make it a bit more similar to a wood gas stove that is like that... you've got me thinking! Maybe add a 12V computer fan? of course this does add to pack weight but for back yard experiments...
I agree, the wind played a huge factor in this test. I have since found a great item for making cross-bars. Walmart sells SS rulers for $0.97 CAD. I pick up a number and they have been working much better. I have been considering how to add a fan to the Ikea to turn it into something like a BioLite or VitalGrill. I have not come up with anything yet but will keep at it. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanx! I feel I am prematurely commenting here, I really need to watch more of your vids as you have already covered some answers to some of my questions! But it is fun to be interactive, in any case I am inspired to get back to some backyard wood burning and I do need to bring some of the stove fire out to the woods when I go out for walks w the dog. Since we are on the subject of Fire, consider checking out the technology of MagneGas - TaronisTech.com. I've been using it for years and I do believe it will be a big answer to many various pollution/energy problems. I don't think it is available in Canada yet tho but check out some of my vids if you are interested.
The breeze sure raised the temperature aluminum melts at 660.32°C (1,221°F) well above what you need for cooking. I think trying to reduce the burn temperature would be better then switching to other pot supports though stainless steel ones would work great (try Metals Supermart for some).
It was way to hot for sure. I could have smelted metal..well almost. I agree about slowing the burn down. I have a couple of ideas I am working on for the stove and the cross bars. Thanks for the Metal Mart idea.
For the IKEA drainer stove ... a stainless steel cooling rack should resist heat better (higher melting point). I use different size racks with feet to control the opening size on the steamer. They take up very little room in my kit as they fit inside my camp skillet. I car camp, so weight is not a concern for me. I can use the same racks on my drainer stove as a pot support. These are both great little stoves.
I’ve been elevating my drainer stove on a wire rack but have have considered using conduit clamps for more stability. I saw another video where you fabricated legs. Do you have a preference of one over the other for stability? The conduit clamps seem more space saving. I think my drainer stove is taller (its the Walmart version), so it may tip more easily. And as for limiting air flow in it, I think a piece of an aluminum foil baking sheet wrapped around and secured with wire would work fine. Then it will be easily removed when more air is beneficial.
I am planning an update video for the Ikea Hobo Stove that should answer all your questions. Now I am using a stainless steel ruler I bought at Walmart for the cross bars. I do prefer the conduit clamps as they extend out past the stove for more stability. I also really like the Seige Stove cross members for the best all round way to hack the Ikea strainer.
While using an alcohol burner in the idea stove that opening hole creates an opportunity to adjust your flame with the simmer ring. :)
It can if you make it large enough to reach in through. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Can you do a video using an alcohol stove with the vegetable steamer please?
I was looking at something for a 10" cast iron skillet while I'm car camping. I might see if I can find the vegetable steamer at my local thrift store.
You may want to look for something a bit more heavy duty for a 10" cast iron pan. While you are at the thrift store take a look for a stainless steel colander or strainer. I have a couple of videos on using those as well. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I would probably just come up with a external pot support for it or just get a large can and make it work like the lixada stove hybrid you came up with. If anything just having the strainer to build up a fire when the ground is wet would be nice.
Love your vids.😃 I got my Ikea cylinder at a thrift store. Thank you for showing me alternatives.
Glad you liked the video. Have you watched my three part series on making a hobo stove? Thank you for commenting
i love your videos
Thank you kindly
The Alocs stove with pot stand, would be perfect for the steamer stove, if you use the steamer as a windscreen
Right on. Actually I have tried that and it does work well. At the same time, the sides of the steamer do not extend up very high over the top or the stove combo. A lower stove would work even better. Thanks for commenting
I'd probably fab up a pot stand for the steamer that was like the ikea one, but with several slots for different sized openings. I have made them from thrift store bread knife blades, due to it being a cheap source of stainless material.
I also wanted to mention that I use a thrift store camera tripod with a chain hooked to the crank handle to move the pots up and down, but not all tripods will work well. Study the design before you buy.
Right on. I nave been using cheap metal rulers for pot stands lately
Enjoy your videos. I have been experimenting with these stoves. What I want is to maintain and control a continuous burn. It’s great to create a hot fire, but being able to control the burn. Have you any thoughts?
So, there are a number of things to consider around controlling the fire in a stove like these. Variables that you can work with include; the type of wood (hard VS soft), the thickness of the cut pieces and the amount used at one time. Next is controlling air flow. If you can reduce (not eliminate) the amount of air getting to the wood it will slow the fire down. One thing I have done on hobo stove builds is to cut two small feed ports at 90 degrees to each other and feed in small sticks similar to a Firebox stove. This helps make for a smaller fire with good control. Hope this helps
I shouldn't worry about the idea aluminum pot stand melting, because normally you would never allow your stove to flame up like that with so much wood and so much wind. After all alot of us do use aluminum pots to cook with.
I agree mostly but I did have an aluminum pot stand melt due to excessive heat. Windy conditions made the Ikea into an inferno. Now I use stainless steel rulers to make them. Thanks for commenting
You are most wise. Your video on different fire box - hobo stove creations especially for the large hosted field trip has opened my mind to their usefulness.
HI IF YOU HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF STEAMER WITH HOLES LIKE THAT ONE, YOU COULD TRY SLIDING A STEEL ROD THROUGH 2 ALIGNED HOLES IN 2 ADJACENT PETALS THAT LINE UP. THEN SLIDE IT ACROSS ABOUT (180`) TO 2 ALIGNED HOLES IN THE OTHER SIDE. DO THIS 2 OR 3 TIMES AND THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU THE LOCK TO KEEP IT FROM OPINING BIGGER OR SMALLER. IT ALSO MAKES A RACK TO PUT YOUR COOKING POT OR PAN ON. IF THE OPENING IS SMALLER THAN YOUR POT OR PAN JUST PUT THE POT OR PAN ON THE PETALS TIPS. ALSO IF IT DID NOT HAVE LEGS, JUST SET IT ON SOME STONES TO GET IT OFF THE GROUND. JUST AN IDEA.
Sounds like a great idea. I have SS skewers that will fit the holes that I can try. Thanks for commenting
YOU ARE WELCOME. THIS LOOKS LIKE A FUN LITTEL STOVE. I JUST THOUGHT, IT MIGHT LAY FLAT INSIDE A FRY PAN WITH LID OF THE RIGHT SIZE. YOU CAN BOIL COFFIE OR TEA WATER IN THAT, AND ALSO COOK IN IT. STUFF IT IN A SACK LIKE THE OTHERS, AND OFF YOU GO. GREAT IDEA, AND 1 LESS POT.
And you have a perfect charcoal burner for small burns in the veggie steamer..
Works great with charcoal. Thanks for commenting
The vegetable steamer would make a good barbecue.
It truly would. Thanks for commenting
The ikea pot stand: have you ytried strips of tins from vegetable cans? I dont know how strong it would be but you could double them up. And, as far as time to bring to a boil, you actually lit the ikea first and talked for a bit before lighting the steamer. Therefore, I think the steamer is actually a bit faster.
I have since found stainless steel rulers at Walmart for $.97 CAD that work perfectly as cross stands. Thanks for commenting
Same problem here. Every time I light a stove the wind picks up!
and once the fire gets going the wind will always push the smoke to my face as well😂. Thank you for commenting
Remove original legs and use a screw and a nut for stable and removable (reinstall the inside in prder not to loose them) legs
Interesting suggestion. Thanks for commenting
OMG! You broke your HOBO stove !!! 😳🤯
Yup, I did. But I have a solution I will share in an upcoming video. Thanks for commenting
Being a poor craftsman i’ve learned over the years 3 legs are always more stable than 4 on uneven ground 😉
Yes, Three legged stools are much more stable than others. Thanks for commenting
The steamer was getting a lot of heat from the flames from the ikea during the burn time. Maybe whe the steamer came to a boill that fast
Good observation. I have had very good performance from the steamer in the past but in the test the added heat may have contributed to the quick boil time. Thanks for commenting
DIY genius!
Clever maybe 😅 but I don't think of myself as genius. Thank for commenting
More seriously, if your revenue streams are starting to permit it, a review of the "Titanium BBQ Grill Plate" would be greatly appreciated. It looks like it would work wonders with the wider strainer-fire. Lots of identical ones on AliExpress, here's one example. Looks like under $25 US for a solid titanium grill is an amazing bit of kit, not cheap - but not expensive considering either and as it's solid not coated looks like it could be very long lasting indeed.
Oops, forgot the links
www.aliexpress.com/item/32963953375.html
www.aliexpress.com/item/33048874101.html
www.aliexpress.com/item/32967639262.html
I took a look at the links. More for offer than I realized. Very cool stuff. I will put one or two on my wish list
Thanks. Posting ideas sounds like camera work and trying to get it on You Tube. I've no capability to do that. But perhaps if I could give that tripod triangle to you, you could rig it up like Dave did, hang a pot of water, and post it for yourself. 4 sticks of your chosing for the legs and pot hanger. Could be good for another video.
Shipping to or in Canada is so expensive. Maybe I could make my own based on what Dave did in his video
Stainless steel colander vs veggie steamer
Interesting comparison. I will see what I can come up with. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I had a look in Kmart. Stainless colanders are huge compared to utensil drainer. Might make good make shift fire pit 😎 though might need to drill a few air vent holes in bottom support ring to get airflow from the bottom.
Pure Aluminium melts at 660 degrees C, whereas steel loses half it's strength at 600 C. Manuals of firemanship ( UK).
thanks for commenting
Well aware of shipping in Canada. Just placed an order to the U.S. $74USD. With shipping $200.10 CAD. Do you have a hydrant to left of your driveway? If so, I can always find an excuse to visit Lee Valley and drop the tripod thingy off to you. With diabetes, it's not safe to venture too far anymore, so it looks like I'm 'arm chairing it now'. I'd probably never use it anyway, just like making 'shiny stuff'. Shiny is good.
can you look me up on Facebook so we can chat through Messenger?
Not familiar with facebook, will check with my wife. Actually had to search for the disc for about 1 1/2 hours since I'm always putting things away in a safe place. Way too many safe places for sure. I did find it though.
@@jayteehee6789 If you go to my channel page under the 'about" tab at the top, then scroll down, you will see a link to my email
My plastic strainer didn't hold up 😢😂
Single use only I guess😅 Thanks for commenting
I think it is incorrect to call any type of wood stove a gassifier stove.
What happens when we burn wood in any kind of stove - first of all we apply heat to the wood to light it and the heated wood gives off gas which we see as the flame and this continues until all the gas is used up and we are left with charcoal which will continue to burn and give off heat until all the carbon is used up and we are left with ash..If you restrict air to the fire it will smoke and this is wasted fuel.
In the Bush Buddy type wood stoves the super heated air which rises in the double wall exits from the top holes and burns with the wood gas to give a double burn .This is what people wrongly call gasification
The reason you dont see the double burn immediately is because the stove has to heat up in order for the air to heat up and rise in the double wall acting like a chimney
In the box type single wall wood stoves once sufficient heat is built up they will burn just as efficiently as long as sufficient air (oxygen ) is available
In both types of stove if they are loaded properly and lit from the top there will be little or no smoke.
Thanks for commenting
I do not like the Ikea, it looks very unstable and not a large area to cook on!
For which stove? the Ikea of the vegetable steamer?