Smash 4 is still the JANKIEST Smash game

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  • Look, I know there's been a whole bunch of talk about Steve and about how unbalanced Smash Ultimate is. But, I mean, do you guys remember Smash 4? That game was BROKEN! Today, we'll be looking at some old Smash 4 sets while I give my thoughts.
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ความคิดเห็น • 169

  • @jacobhardin1089
    @jacobhardin1089 ปีที่แล้ว +555

    Day 79 of protesting for a shimmy tier list.

    • @jackcampbell2021
      @jackcampbell2021 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I believe in your cause

    • @jameslazarou6764
      @jameslazarou6764 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Hold strong soldier 🫡

    • @redduck6483
      @redduck6483 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You’re doing god’s work brother

    • @TheLyonzDen9450
      @TheLyonzDen9450 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Day 79 of protesting for you to get a job

    • @redduck6483
      @redduck6483 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheLyonzDen9450 lol

  • @mattnipitella5374
    @mattnipitella5374 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I wish smash 4 still had a competitive scene. The game basically died as soon as ultimate came out. I miss this game so much.

    • @mtgmax8732
      @mtgmax8732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same

    • @snackknight
      @snackknight ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i miss smash run :(

    • @fissilewhistle
      @fissilewhistle ปีที่แล้ว

      It deserved to die.

    • @Bruh-hr5sg
      @Bruh-hr5sg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bruh smash 4 comp would just be everyone playijg baoy

  • @darkeviljaxson
    @darkeviljaxson ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Give the guy his shimmy tierlist already

    • @Tiznado
      @Tiznado ปีที่แล้ว

      Give ‘em an inch, and they’ll take a mile

  • @anonymous7024
    @anonymous7024 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    11:16 Marss really said "You go out on MY terms buddy"

  • @EnharmonicYT
    @EnharmonicYT ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The turbo teabag at the end actually had me in tears

  • @ItzMeNido
    @ItzMeNido ปีที่แล้ว +483

    Fun Fact, I met Marss at this tourney (Pound 2016.)
    I was popping off with my MDVA homies because I made top 96 at my first major and Marss was like
    "Ay congrats on making top 96 at your first Major!
    I got top 8 at mine. :)"
    Been a Marss fan ever since lmao.

    • @Marss_NE
      @Marss_NE  ปีที่แล้ว +189

      mashers 4 life

    • @alexemp6201
      @alexemp6201 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      That's the most wholesome and swag story at the same time ever

    • @wollins7244
      @wollins7244 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I love that Marss has just been the same for what seems like his entire life. At 17 he still has the same personality he does on stream now. Crazy that he doesn’t even seem to put on a personality

  • @timmyb.3426
    @timmyb.3426 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I miss being able to run through your opponent. I've been complaining about pushing the opponent since Ultimate released.

  • @usern4metak3ns
    @usern4metak3ns ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's Monday where TF is our monke! Do your jerb

  • @kawaharaizumi731
    @kawaharaizumi731 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Marss narrating his long-ago sets like an old man reminiscing about the war.... so wholesome

  • @gamrage
    @gamrage ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know people have complained about Smash Ultimate being super janky from the start. All of them are janky. It may be subjective which one is the most.

  • @rocklob069
    @rocklob069 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Whatever you do, do NOT check marss set history with tweek in ultimate

    • @FujiBou
      @FujiBou ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No one beats marss 9 times in a row

  • @Sammechu
    @Sammechu ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I still think about how we really played 2 stocks and still managed to hold up Melee brackets lmao

  • @ohianaw
    @ohianaw ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Next Marss vid: "Why do I play ZSS"

    • @Marss_NE
      @Marss_NE  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      because the world isn't fair

  • @JackCattGaming
    @JackCattGaming ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You should do this more often, I'm such a sucker for smash 4 nostalgia

  • @Bradyboy26
    @Bradyboy26 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i miss smash4 doubles if it wasnt for cloud smash4 doubles felt so dynamic

  • @ChillestForm
    @ChillestForm ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Leave it to Marss to find some kind of way to have unskippable ads

  • @betchaos7383
    @betchaos7383 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I miss smash 4

    • @user-jh1ov8cc7m
      @user-jh1ov8cc7m ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Imo smash 4 is the best in the series by far. I can't even play the new one with how weird the buffer system is. Smash 4 felt way smoother.

    • @alanaguero5486
      @alanaguero5486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Feel you, bro. I like playing Ultimate at times, but it's not for me. Physics are garbage and some mechanics are insufferable. Glad for those who adapted, but i just can't.

    • @willycheez7218
      @willycheez7218 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sm4sh was THE time to play. So chill, Smash YT content was insane during Sm4sh I miss it

    • @alanaguero5486
      @alanaguero5486 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jaydenhohman2590 Imo it was a good system. The way you can airdoge and then attack or jump makes the game very dynamic in air movement. And it's not like it was hard to punish either.
      Fun fact: Playing as C. Falcon. If you jump and airdoge at the same time, you have the perfect timing for a grounded knee.

    • @user-jh1ov8cc7m
      @user-jh1ov8cc7m ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaydenhohman2590 the air dodges in ultimate are wack because they leave you vulnerable for so long that they are almost unusable.

  • @Matpit18
    @Matpit18 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish I knew about competitive Smash 4 because this Marss was like 10x more toxic 😂

  • @A_man_not_your_man
    @A_man_not_your_man ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad to see she went from trash in Smash 4 to garbage girl in Ultimate

  • @BeeBN
    @BeeBN ปีที่แล้ว +2

    honestly i miss being able to run through opponents, thats a change in ultimate i dont like

  • @zentember
    @zentember ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i feel like the fearlessness to run through shields is also a statement about how collision mechanics were different in smash 4 versus ultimate

  • @Creepo_J
    @Creepo_J ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I fucking miss smash 4 how buttery and smooth the game was
    you could do so much cool shit like reverse sliding ftilts and footstool stuff
    and that was me playing on 3ds, it was a good time

    • @LuisGonzalez0505
      @LuisGonzalez0505 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Reverse slide up tilt with fox looked so smooth, I miss that too! Link had some cool slide tech with his bombs too. Bayo killed the good time though lol

    • @Creepo_J
      @Creepo_J ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LuisGonzalez0505
      I never got the dlc for smash 4 or played comp back then but yeah

  • @TheCaptainBlackimar
    @TheCaptainBlackimar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shoulda played that Abadango set. Nair footstool down B looked crazy af at the time

  • @ChozenSakuga
    @ChozenSakuga ปีที่แล้ว +5

    marss super smash bros

  • @AArchunBestGOD
    @AArchunBestGOD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    S4 has Better matches Than Ultimate Worse Worse Cloud Btw Yes

  • @FuriousFear
    @FuriousFear ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Marss will change in a lot of ways over the course of his life but he will always be funny

  • @star14604
    @star14604 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:05 not in bracket but a friendly at shine and wow, there has never been a more truthful statement.

  • @David-bh1rn
    @David-bh1rn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so good at smash 4 I pick mario and do down throw up tilt up tilt up tilt up tilt up tilt and then do an up air combo and win

  • @xzynta
    @xzynta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You on the duolingo or what never seen you speak this much Spanish lol

  • @AArchunBestGOD
    @AArchunBestGOD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:00 Another♿Worst♿Worst♿

  • @dokutah7374
    @dokutah7374 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like I’m the only one who misses the extra game modes that were in 4

  • @SeaOfPixels
    @SeaOfPixels ปีที่แล้ว +3

    U gotta do a vid like this for your doubles Lucario

  • @blason56
    @blason56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smash 4 : Player gets his - Crowd goes wild.

  • @AArchunBestGOD
    @AArchunBestGOD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That even Worse @Marss & Cloud

  • @HackX1824
    @HackX1824 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Uhm ackchyually you uploaded at 1:59 not 2:00

  • @playte9860
    @playte9860 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Smash 4 more like...
    Idk I got nothing

  • @MarkSchmidtTheRecoverySystem
    @MarkSchmidtTheRecoverySystem ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If it wasn't for their voices, I wouldn't have recognized TK or EE. Both guys have glowed up like crazy.

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really think this is the worst one. I hate down throw up air.

  • @jiyucy
    @jiyucy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4 > Ult

  • @warrenlwolfe
    @warrenlwolfe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this game's knockback physics were soooo dumb lmao

  • @danigoruff536
    @danigoruff536 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Smash 4's kirby air dodge was so perfect 😭

    • @PoyoDreamer
      @PoyoDreamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn’t it the same as brawls?

    • @albertwesker4729
      @albertwesker4729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PoyoDreamer much faster

  • @ATozz-1337
    @ATozz-1337 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This isn't Monke Monday....

  • @sinno96
    @sinno96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss crossing up shields so bad…

  • @Trapjrt
    @Trapjrt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:37 the first shimmy?

  • @yorkie4295
    @yorkie4295 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hadn’t thought about how much fun the game is when there’s no bodyblocking. if they’re just doing nothing then just run through em lol.

  • @name-tx5qu
    @name-tx5qu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m insulted marss called sephiroth dlc

  • @LoKing1337
    @LoKing1337 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Man I fucking love smash 4

    • @dogyX3
      @dogyX3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's was such a cool looking and stylish game

    • @snowarmth
      @snowarmth ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It just looks and felt so smooth and polished. I loved the size of the roster, it was my favorite thing about it, because when the roster is too large, it's hard to get good against everyone, but when it's too small, not everyone finds their character. I think 4 had the perfect size :3

  • @MelvinStFleur
    @MelvinStFleur ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nah 11:15 is disrespectful AF 🤣🤣🤣

  • @DerRiese625
    @DerRiese625 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching marss analyze his sets will never get old. pure gold

  • @cabbages982
    @cabbages982 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always think of young Tweek having longer hair so it’s disorienting seeing buzz cut young Tweek cause my brain says that’s current Tweek but also baby face

  • @alanaguero5486
    @alanaguero5486 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You made me remember why i like Smash 4 better. Ultimate is so fucking garbage.

  • @kev5227
    @kev5227 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty whatever content I won’t be subscribing

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait for Ultimate to end up like Smash 4 when the next Smash game comes out where everyone suddenly hates it

    • @rixenoshivaz
      @rixenoshivaz ปีที่แล้ว +8

      everyone already hates ultimate

    • @wolfdragox5563
      @wolfdragox5563 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rixenoshivaz nobody hates smash more than smash players lol

    • @snoopybishop
      @snoopybishop ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@wolfdragox5563 I play king of fighters. I hate ultimate. 😂

    • @boundlessaether392
      @boundlessaether392 ปีที่แล้ว

      Smash 4 barely has any notable features and feels very soulless. Smash Ultimate feels like what Smash 4 should’ve been. I doubt it will ever end up like its predecessor.

  • @Havoc_279
    @Havoc_279 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go back to Frostbite 2017, best tournament in my opinion

  • @MrBleer123
    @MrBleer123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suprised we didnt see marss and pugwest combos in here, they were the first super sick doubles team

  • @DumpsterM0nkey6
    @DumpsterM0nkey6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, why was Smash 4 Doubles 3 stock?

  • @wampty8298
    @wampty8298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is just proof that Marss isn't actually good at the game, but the luckiest player of all time

  • @nedcurfman3486
    @nedcurfman3486 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hearing Marss and Jersey in the same sentence explains so much

  • @researchinbreeder
    @researchinbreeder ปีที่แล้ว

    Marss sounds mad at Tweek for losing half the time 😂

  • @draw_neos-5064
    @draw_neos-5064 ปีที่แล้ว

    nah, melee was worst

  • @bibbyboxx2219
    @bibbyboxx2219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video

  • @LunaireTD
    @LunaireTD ปีที่แล้ว

    Smash 4 mars was absolutely UNHINGED

  • @michael13849
    @michael13849 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sm4sh dubs was beautiful

  • @99wins31
    @99wins31 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:28 Feel good

  • @dteragon
    @dteragon ปีที่แล้ว

    marss light smash 4 doubles was absolute degen lmao

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 ปีที่แล้ว

    W game

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:54 fax

  • @Tonjit41
    @Tonjit41 ปีที่แล้ว

    Firfst

  • @benjaminobi
    @benjaminobi ปีที่แล้ว

    TK and EE should do the BOdied thing again lol

  • @rgonzalez789517
    @rgonzalez789517 ปีที่แล้ว

    More smash 4 origins plz

  • @Gllerm_
    @Gllerm_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Disgusting behavior

  • @ytcmbt2505
    @ytcmbt2505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    remove rage, bayo and cloud and smash 4 is better than ult

  • @barbecuesauceeyebrows8254
    @barbecuesauceeyebrows8254 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:53 that game was soo good

  • @elijahmims1928
    @elijahmims1928 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Knockback was so weird looking in Smash 4. It looks like they're in witch time and flying away in slow motion 💀

    • @BigMamaSSB
      @BigMamaSSB 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Remember when brawl was a goofy game with tripping

  • @Torchy0033
    @Torchy0033 ปีที่แล้ว

    💀

  • @softchirps
    @softchirps ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks!

  • @cephlo4933
    @cephlo4933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You say Tweek plays dlc bs when he plays one of the worst dlc characters

  • @kestrelynn
    @kestrelynn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know alpharad said to void to brush up on sm4sh for a content thing he's planning do this analysis might come in handy

  • @Hihello13919
    @Hihello13919 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First

  • @user-jh1ov8cc7m
    @user-jh1ov8cc7m ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nah ultimate is by far jankier. I can't even play it because of the new buffer system. Smash 4 felt so much smoother in comparison. Brawl is still the worst game in the series though.

    • @Sergio-wc1wn
      @Sergio-wc1wn ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You can say anything about ultimate movement not being the best but Smash 4 is easily more janky and unbalanced than smash ultimate.

    • @user-jh1ov8cc7m
      @user-jh1ov8cc7m ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Sergio-wc1wn I think the balance is about the same. Sure Bayonetta was easily #1, but I think Steve is just as busted only he is harder to play as. The rest of the cast I thought was more balanced than now. Smash ultimate has an even bigger difference in character size and reach and I think that makes it extremely difficult for characters with low reach to even get close enough to hit their opponent.

    • @itsjustsincere1004
      @itsjustsincere1004 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unnecessary brawl hate 💀

    • @Sergio-wc1wn
      @Sergio-wc1wn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@user-jh1ov8cc7m Steve is not even close to as busted as Bayo. Also I disagree with you; almost every character in ultimate except Ganon and maybe Little Mac can top 8 a major in this game currently, while in smash 4 that was nearly impossible.

    • @bobthebuilder609
      @bobthebuilder609 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Sergio-wc1wn have you even seen steve's hitstun cancelling, and PMLG recently discovered? If you haven't... you may with to retract your previous statement of utter stupidity. Steve gets one hit and kills you from it, regardless of your DI. Bayonetta gets one hit, and kills you from it, with sometimes a 50/50 to get out of her combo with SDI.
      sound familiar at all?

  • @mlgpuppyman4011
    @mlgpuppyman4011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Up air combos into itself never before seen mario:am I a joke to you

  • @magicxxrjxx536
    @magicxxrjxx536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    too bad tweek's miles ahead of you now *yawn

  • @drunkdos
    @drunkdos ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yep smash 4 still the worst. Even 64 have more charm. Brawl have the projectM/+ to remove the jank. Smash 4 have nothing
    Ps. Melee not need a mention for obvious reasons

    • @lmao2302
      @lmao2302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Project M DOESN"T COUNT

    • @nathanm6372
      @nathanm6372 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Melee god-tier 😤😩

    • @bobthebuilder609
      @bobthebuilder609 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're incorrect, but judging from that you think anything positive about a game where kirby's uptilt is larger than ultimate ganondorf's forward smash... you must be a dumbass? Seems fairly obvious to me.

    • @rixenoshivaz
      @rixenoshivaz ปีที่แล้ว

      melees the worst game dont @ me

    • @rainlion10
      @rainlion10 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rixenoshivaz @

  • @yurazah
    @yurazah ปีที่แล้ว

    hot take (actually maybe not, maybe cold) smash ultimate is still smash 4, its not a new game its a patch, like how street fighter games had like 3 new game (patches) that had drastic game balance differences. another example i use is dragon ball fighterZ, I would consider its current patch more different from the initial release then smash ultimate is to 4 and fighters is still just considered 1 game

    • @schwany6703
      @schwany6703 ปีที่แล้ว

      brainless take

    • @blackghostcat
      @blackghostcat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that's a cold one. Physics were reworked. (Faster in general) every character was rebalanced and made faster. Shield was reworked, grabs were changed, new hitstun and better combos, better movement because of dash dancing. I could go on. That's a bit more than a patch so this makes no sense.
      Only thing not changed were the graphics and sounds sorta?

    • @yurazah
      @yurazah ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackghostcat your idea of a patch just isnt broad enough, the street fighter versions are just as if not more drastically different in all those categories but are still all considered street fighter 2 - edit: also you know waht a hot/cold take is right? hot means its a controversial unpopular opinion. if you dont agree you should say its not, being cold means everyone agrees with me.

    • @blackghostcat
      @blackghostcat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yurazah sorry I mean bad hot take. But do you understand that all they did with street fighter 2 was increase the speed of the game with no engine adjustments?

    • @theobserver4214
      @theobserver4214 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackghostcat SF2 was radically different with each version, yet still the same. It’s hard to describe but CE is not nearly the same as HF or WW.

  • @LUMRei
    @LUMRei ปีที่แล้ว

    More funny smash 4 please