Muy buena técnica usando componentes, pero pienso que la forma correcta de trabajar el diseño colaborativo es usando la plataforma de Trimble Connect, ya que esta desarrollada para realizar esta tarea y con un mejor control Very good technique using components, but I think the right way to work collaborative design is using the Trimble Connect platform, as it is developed to perform this task and with better control.
@@pcatful Yes the Lock command will do it, but we always need to unlock > reload > lock which is fine enough. anyway, a little improvement is always welcome
2:35 I didn't think the component "remembers" it's position in the site model. I just thought that when I replace the building it comes in using the same axes as the version left behind. If I change the orientation or position of the building left behind, the reloaded component would also move. It really makes working on the building easier and faster if your site model is complex. If you add a lot of extra things on the side like you show in the building model, they will come back in to the site as part of the building component, along with their tags (though the tags would be hidden if you saved the building component file that way).
It does have an attribute it stores relative to 0,0. So yes, it does remember. This will show up also in Layout if you setup a view in SketchUp then move the geometry, it will screw up annotations in Layout.
I don't believe that. If you move the component that is left in the landscape model, you can't reload the component without it being misplaced. @@ArtisanTony
@@pcatful Wherever the file is saved, there is meta data associated with it. Part of that data is it's location relative to 0,0 in the model itself. So if another user moves the building around in the edited file and saves it back as the shared file. That will affect it for everyone else who tries to use it. I have dealt with this many times as I have to work with consultants like mechanical, electrical, structural, civil, engineers and they are sometimes bad about moving the building around in the referenced model. Then when I try to bring it back in, it has moved to the new position they have saved it as. You can try this for yourself or I can make a short video to demonstrate. Everyone working on the same project just needs to remember not to change the location relative to 0,0 unless it is necessary.
@@pcatful Right, but when the geometry is originally created, if it is created like in this example, on the hillside and then saved out as a component, those x,y,z attributes go with it. So that when someone else opens the saved file, they need to leave the position of the geometry alone unless of course moving it is part of the plan :)
I always wondered why SketchUp ignored the XREF function. I think it is one of the main things that held me back 16 years ago from using SketchUp. Cost is the only reason I gave up using AutoCAD after using it since the early 80's. This video shows some a way to mimic XREF but leaves open the door for bad communication. A true XREF forces updates and aids in project management.
That's great Eric, I wasn't aware of the ability to save a component out of the model and then reload it later on. Thanks for the info.
Thanks Eric, I hope you and the rest of the SketchUp team have a great time and here's to a prosperous 2024
Thanks, Eric! Such a series of tutorials is useful.
@ericsargeant3254 You're welcome, Eric! --mihai.s
Excellent, thanks Eric. Really great to know - looks easy to implement.
What about working with trimble connect? I suppose its safer than working with components. Because we can control the version's updates...
Muy buena técnica usando componentes, pero pienso que la forma correcta de trabajar el diseño colaborativo es usando la plataforma de Trimble Connect, ya que esta desarrollada para realizar esta tarea y con un mejor control
Very good technique using components, but I think the right way to work collaborative design is using the Trimble Connect platform, as it is developed to perform this task and with better control.
You had a lot of subcomponents on a separate Layer next to the sugar-cube-model - will these be imported as well?
I learn new tip, thanks eric
I like the idea,
Only If there is a way to lock the placeholder component from accident editing that would be great.
Thanks Eric!
Use the "lock" command?
@@pcatful Yes the Lock command will do it, but we always need to unlock > reload > lock which is fine enough.
anyway, a little improvement is always welcome
@ericsargeant3254 Thanks Eric
One of my favorite thing in SketchUp the second is the ability to link many SketchUp models in one single LayOut file
2:35 I didn't think the component "remembers" it's position in the site model. I just thought that when I replace the building it comes in using the same axes as the version left behind. If I change the orientation or position of the building left behind, the reloaded component would also move. It really makes working on the building easier and faster if your site model is complex. If you add a lot of extra things on the side like you show in the building model, they will come back in to the site as part of the building component, along with their tags (though the tags would be hidden if you saved the building component file that way).
It does have an attribute it stores relative to 0,0. So yes, it does remember. This will show up also in Layout if you setup a view in SketchUp then move the geometry, it will screw up annotations in Layout.
I don't believe that. If you move the component that is left in the landscape model, you can't reload the component without it being misplaced. @@ArtisanTony
@@pcatful Wherever the file is saved, there is meta data associated with it. Part of that data is it's location relative to 0,0 in the model itself. So if another user moves the building around in the edited file and saves it back as the shared file. That will affect it for everyone else who tries to use it. I have dealt with this many times as I have to work with consultants like mechanical, electrical, structural, civil, engineers and they are sometimes bad about moving the building around in the referenced model. Then when I try to bring it back in, it has moved to the new position they have saved it as. You can try this for yourself or I can make a short video to demonstrate. Everyone working on the same project just needs to remember not to change the location relative to 0,0 unless it is necessary.
That's how I find it to work relative to the origin of the components. Not the way it was described in the video.@@ArtisanTony
@@pcatful Right, but when the geometry is originally created, if it is created like in this example, on the hillside and then saved out as a component, those x,y,z attributes go with it. So that when someone else opens the saved file, they need to leave the position of the geometry alone unless of course moving it is part of the plan :)
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I always wondered why SketchUp ignored the XREF function. I think it is one of the main things that held me back 16 years ago from using SketchUp. Cost is the only reason I gave up using AutoCAD after using it since the early 80's. This video shows some a way to mimic XREF but leaves open the door for bad communication. A true XREF forces updates and aids in project management.