It's a Hard Listen: It sounds like a child is talking to you. Glad you won your case and I'm glad you published the winnings as it gives others the confidence to sue for abuse of power !!, With regards to any questions outside of this alleged offence I would go No comment.
She keeps saying enclosed, yet admits several times the gates and barriers where open as they where broken. Therefore its not an enclosed space, as you can just walk in through the open gates. Whether he knows they are normally shut and it's normally an enclosed space doesn't matter. On this particular day it was an open space and open access for any member of the public to walk in. What she should have done is accepted liability as its their duty to make it enclosed, they failed in that duty with the broken gates. Therefore NO law was broken. Previous knowledge doesn't come into it, at all
@gj5900 Screaming at the screen, but it's got an open entrance, the fences mean nothing. At one point, she says, "But you know you're not meant to come in" ?? She really didn't have a clue. Open access doesn't mean if there is any fencing it's enclosed, it means if the public can just walk in at any point. Id sack her. She just embarrassed the police force if truth be known. She would be better just admitting that usually it's all enclosed, but as our entrance points were open, you haven't broken any law, I'm really sorry for the inconvenience caused. That would be too much common sense, though. They would rather be pig headed and pay a civil claim from the taxpayers' money. Had she admitted it was their fault and apologised, she may have avoided a civil claim. You only have to hope that some one with a higher level of understanding of the law and intelligence interviews the real criminals, as If she interviews a nonce, rapist or terrorist, they will likely be let free after her interview
@@joeexotic5831 the custody Sergeant wouldn’t have booked him in if the constables told the truth. Easy civil claim as the arrest was filmed and was clearly malicious.
Yes...agree 100%. My council tax is a crippling monthly payment and then I see these thousands of pounds handouts, makes me so mad. Like you said, compensation should come out from the salary from the offending officer(s).
How she could say on tape, that this was enclosed, With a gate open, is beyond belief. The intention may be to have an enclosed area, but if that is the case, maybe close the gate at all times. A complete joke of an officer of the law, trying to defend the stupid unlawful actions of a butt hurt pc who made an illegal arrest
Also, there was no way this offence was going to be made out as you would have to be on an enclosed premises with unlawful intent. Making a youtube video is not unlawful intent. This was just a retaliatory arrest because Sgt Sausage got butthutt. Hope Marti enjoyed his holiday courtesy of GMP.
I see promotion to sergeant in fact a lot of promotion nowadays is for diversity rather than ability. Hence standards will of course be lower. From untidy uniform or hair to lack of communication skills and worse. The head of the Royal Air Force wanted the same and a high ranking woman Officer in charge of recruitment resigned on principle!!! It should be on ability to carry out your job. !!!!! RIP UK.
@JustAlex848 you've contradicted yourself. You say 'jump' a gate. Nobody here jumped anything. The gate was open which means it is NOT an enclosed area. It really is very easy to grasp even with limited English
Both of you guys are partly correct. Enclosed means an area that's surrounded/closed off on all sides. So ultimately the officer is wrong, with a barrier/gate up or open. It's not enclosed.
@JustAlex848 WOW your get more stupid by the second. The police called it an enclosed area YET the gates were all wide open which means it is NO longer an ENCLOSED PLACE. The very term enclosed means without opening. If the gates were CLOSED then the officer would of been correct in calling it a enclosed area HOWEVER all the gates were OPEN so IT WAS NOT AN ENCLOSED SPACE. What the hell your going on about jumping over fences etc I have no clue. That has absolutely nothing to do with my comment. It seems your more retarded than the female officer doing the interview.
@@DaleSteel He's just saying that you could get into an enclosed area if you really wanted to. I don't know with a tank or whatever. :D He's taking the CANT that you put in your first post literally. But I guess by CANT you mean by law you are not supposed to go in, if it is actually an enclosed area.
@clementkirkpatrick4635 It doesn't matter how old the law is. The 1689 Bill of Rights is still on the statute book for our protection. I use 1939 Ashby v Tolhurst to win private parking fines appeals.
@@tecnomagos.l.2684 you are correct, however the police were clearly looking for anything to pin on him and this was not the right one. It was clearly not an enclosed premise with the gates wide open also he was not carrying out unlawful activity. Police yet again ignorant of the legislation as well as the English language ie "enclosed"
This interview highlights just how thick and stupid the Police are. Comical. As stated by many here this money should come out of their own pockets. Then maybe they will think twice before they act unlawfully. Of course nothing will happen to any of the feral involved in your arrest.
He did at times self incriminate. By saying "...Controversial videos" He was really really stupid in this interview - given the context of him being a PINAC auditor. He should have remained silent, so that the interview would have been just her voice droning on and on. He shouldn't have given them his name. And he should have gone in sterile, so they couldn't get it off his banking card.
4. The unlawful purpose found must amount to criminal activity. 5.If hiding in the backyard was to escape detection at the time that they were apprehended would not be an unlawful purpose because hiding from the police is not an unlawful purpose within the meaning of section 4. Basically if they had gone through the law they would have realised it was an unlawful arrest a lot sooner but ignorance of the law is no excuse unless you're a police officer
The gates are wide open, representing a continuous break in the wall/ fence, and she says being there fits the crime of being found in enclosed premises. No wonder he got paid. She's either thick or corrupt.
If the police claim that it is a private enclosed space, how can the simultaneously claim a public order offence when they also claim no public access?
Make a county court caim, either do it online, or get the claim form from the building. Pay the appropriate fee for the amount claimed, and it's as easy as that.
Great to see how dilligent the police are, the efficient use of valuable police time, ensuring the safety and rights of the public are protected. An FOI as to the cost of this exercise would be interesting, how many officers X how many hours, plus compo etc.
IF the area is easily accessible with no physical obstacle or barrier then there is no offence committed, the fact that the gate is broken is in your favour.
I am looking to sue the police. Had my van stolen got it back with police attendance. 1 month later i was arrested for theft of vehicle driving the van and van seized ect. Long story but anyone have any tips?
The charge was obviously never going to be successful. There was no ‘unlawful intent’. The custody sergeant should have refused detention and possibly saved the force some money.
She's baiting constantly. Telling Marti what "he knows".. They hate being filmed . And they will do anything to intimidate and incriminate a member of the public.
Tell you what Marti, that's BRILLIANT. What a result , you told them CLOWN coppers off good and proper and got 2.3k for doing it , very well done can't fault that 😂😂😂😂 , that's a good day's graft keep up the good work !
It amazes me that when cautioned people do not respond: by warning the police "you are interviewing me, and if you do not ask a question that may support my defence (exculpatory evidence) which you the police fail to consider, then it may harm your prosecution as the court may wonder why you failed to ask such question at the time."
She kept making assumptions on what you knew in relation to an enclosed space, stating that you knew you were in the wrong, Place was open, min would be tresspassing, Her questionig and assumptions would never have been accepted in court.
Enclosed area of its fenced off all way round 🤔 technically that means any shop with its doors closed but unlocked would be an enclosed area by her logic
Am genuinely surprised that went to court. Marti you came across extremely articulately. I think the take home message here for the police is that if you don’t want people wandering in your yard shut the gates and barriers 😆
It has to be 'for an unlawful purpose.' - You cannot split the legislation like the interviewer did. Quote 'You were found by a police office in an enclosed premises' 'I would say you fit that offence!'
When she said that you fit the purpose of being in an enclosed space you should have put on record at that point that you do not agree with her or they could claim in court that you hadn't challenged that opinion when questioned.
Definition of *Enclosed* - surrounded by walls, objects, or structures. Definition of *Surrounded* - to be everywhere around something. Definition of *Everywhere* - to, at, or in all places or the whole of a place. Summary - The car park was not *enclosed* as it didn't have walls, objects or structures *surrounding* the car park *everywhere.*
From now own I want to see 100k paid by police forces for thise stupid arrest. Every time ego becomes bigger than actual law I want to see 100k fines!! Handled like a boss martie. Hats off! Let's just make it bigger and better now. Too meny time this happens all over the country. And until a big man stands up and asks for big money this will never end. So the next time stand up for everyone who encountered this ask for big money. Hopefully this will train officers across the land with such a high profile case to learn the law 1st before make stupid decisions. Sausages
@15.43 'You know & I know that IF THOSE GATES WERE DOWN, that's an enclosed area and you know it'... -Should have read the Caution right back to her at the start...
It's a Hard Listen: It sounds like a child is talking to you. Glad you won your case and I'm glad you published the winnings as it gives others the confidence to sue for abuse of power !!, With regards to any questions outside of this alleged offence I would go No comment.
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What a pile of shite when she mentions your home. The cop shop is not the coppers home it is a place of work.
Wrong name it’s the pigshack.!
She’s nowhere near competent enough to conduct an interview for an offence she has absolutely no knowledge about.
They use a woman like this to take men off guard and ooen up..He said way to much , so it worked
She keeps saying enclosed, yet admits several times the gates and barriers where open as they where broken. Therefore its not an enclosed space, as you can just walk in through the open gates. Whether he knows they are normally shut and it's normally an enclosed space doesn't matter. On this particular day it was an open space and open access for any member of the public to walk in. What she should have done is accepted liability as its their duty to make it enclosed, they failed in that duty with the broken gates. Therefore NO law was broken. Previous knowledge doesn't come into it, at all
@@joeexotic5831 her reasoning was pathetic… “it’s got fences around so it’s enclosed” ….. ok brains 😂
@gj5900 Screaming at the screen, but it's got an open entrance, the fences mean nothing. At one point, she says, "But you know you're not meant to come in" ?? She really didn't have a clue. Open access doesn't mean if there is any fencing it's enclosed, it means if the public can just walk in at any point. Id sack her. She just embarrassed the police force if truth be known. She would be better just admitting that usually it's all enclosed, but as our entrance points were open, you haven't broken any law, I'm really sorry for the inconvenience caused. That would be too much common sense, though. They would rather be pig headed and pay a civil claim from the taxpayers' money. Had she admitted it was their fault and apologised, she may have avoided a civil claim. You only have to hope that some one with a higher level of understanding of the law and intelligence interviews the real criminals, as If she interviews a nonce, rapist or terrorist, they will likely be let free after her interview
@@joeexotic5831 the custody Sergeant wouldn’t have booked him in if the constables told the truth. Easy civil claim as the arrest was filmed and was clearly malicious.
Name them they are not sausages they are tyrant's. The money should come out of the cops personal funds not the taxpayers.
Unfortunately, their misdeeds do not cost them personally.
Yes...agree 100%. My council tax is a crippling monthly payment and then I see these thousands of pounds handouts, makes me so mad. Like you said, compensation should come out from the salary from the offending officer(s).
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@@noelward8047that’s because people do not know or have the knowledge of how to hold the man or woman personally liable to trespass
Exactly
Fook me, ITS NOT ENCLOSED IF ITS OPEN!! Makes no ends that it a police station.
Why did you not just keep stumm. Just say absolutely nothing.
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@@StickAroundBennett I am, but the joy of being in Wales, these backwards hill troggs will all vote Labour
How she could say on tape, that this was enclosed, With a gate open, is beyond belief. The intention may be to have an enclosed area, but if that is the case, maybe close the gate at all times. A complete joke of an officer of the law, trying to defend the stupid unlawful actions of a butt hurt pc who made an illegal arrest
Also, there was no way this offence was going to be made out as you would have to be on an enclosed premises with unlawful intent. Making a youtube video is not unlawful intent. This was just a retaliatory arrest because Sgt Sausage got butthutt. Hope Marti enjoyed his holiday courtesy of GMP.
trying to trip him up into saying he shouldnt be there
If the barriers are up it is not in closed the female is talking a load of rubbish.
*enclosed
@@Phil-Sandsyou are right but if you listen carefully she does pronounce it as “in closed” a couple of times 😂
Police logic: it's an enclosed area where the PUBLIC is not allowed in which a PUBLIC order offence was committed.
Good point, well made.
That is an excellent point! Should be the top comment. Marti, if you read this please pin it.
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I see promotion to sergeant in fact a lot of promotion nowadays is for diversity rather than ability. Hence standards will of course be lower. From untidy uniform or hair to lack of communication skills and worse. The head of the Royal Air Force wanted the same and a high ranking woman Officer in charge of recruitment resigned on principle!!!
It should be on ability to carry out your job. !!!!! RIP UK.
Never talk to the cops without a lawyer
Why not ?
Because they twist your words and make things up, in order to stitch you up.
@@TheReverendJones-lv5bz It was videoed.
@@brenda1378 it doesnt matter if you admit to being in the wrong
@BUSHCRAPPING, hence why he won 🤷♂️ so he wasn't in the wrong
Yes she really went down the “if it was your house scenario” 😂 proper ruined her
So silly. I didnt realise a police courtyard is their garden
looooool 😂 u should try doin stand up
I have no idea why people keep trying to use that analogy, oh yeah it's because they are stupid.
absolutely agree....she resorted to playground tactics 'my dads bigger than your dad'
She Totally Embarrasses Herself.
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@@StickAroundBennett Effing Farage is UK tRump. Reform very dangerous ,like MAGA.
WELL DONE FELLA MAKE EM PAY PITY ITS NOT OUT OF SAUSAGES BANK ACOUNT BUT IT MIGHT COME IN THE FUTUR
Enclosed is a area you CANT get into.
@JustAlex848 you've contradicted yourself. You say 'jump' a gate. Nobody here jumped anything. The gate was open which means it is NOT an enclosed area. It really is very easy to grasp even with limited English
Both of you guys are partly correct. Enclosed means an area that's surrounded/closed off on all sides. So ultimately the officer is wrong, with a barrier/gate up or open. It's not enclosed.
@JustAlex848 WOW your get more stupid by the second. The police called it an enclosed area YET the gates were all wide open which means it is NO longer an ENCLOSED PLACE. The very term enclosed means without opening. If the gates were CLOSED then the officer would of been correct in calling it a enclosed area HOWEVER all the gates were OPEN so IT WAS NOT AN ENCLOSED SPACE. What the hell your going on about jumping over fences etc I have no clue. That has absolutely nothing to do with my comment. It seems your more retarded than the female officer doing the interview.
@@DaleSteel He's just saying that you could get into an enclosed area if you really wanted to. I don't know with a tank or whatever. :D
He's taking the CANT that you put in your first post literally. But I guess by CANT you mean by law you are not supposed to go in, if it is actually an enclosed area.
Sargent should face a disciplinary panel & DEMOTED!
She was not interested in the truth. Trying to put words into your mouth to their agender
Exactly, zip it law student. Until u have it lawyer present, rule 101 dude 😍😎😘😗😙😚☺😆😅
Should only talk about stepp8ng onto the carpark to leaving it.
*agenda FFS 😂
They're quoting a 200 year old vagrancy act
@clementkirkpatrick4635
It doesn't matter how old the law is. The 1689 Bill of Rights is still on the statute book for our protection.
I use 1939 Ashby v Tolhurst to win private parking fines appeals.
@@tecnomagos.l.2684 you are correct, however the police were clearly looking for anything to pin on him and this was not the right one. It was clearly not an enclosed premise with the gates wide open also he was not carrying out unlawful activity. Police yet again ignorant of the legislation as well as the English language ie "enclosed"
@@clementkirkpatrick4635 Given she confirms that filming is not unlawful, exactly how they thought they could BS this to work is quite amazing
if gates are open its not an inclosed area as gates open
never say you understand, when talking to the police, its legal jargon for standing under their authority
i hear what you're saying but i don't stand under
This interview highlights just how thick and stupid the Police are. Comical. As stated by many here this money should come out of their own pockets. Then maybe they will think twice before they act unlawfully. Of course nothing will happen to any of the feral involved in your arrest.
Absolutely
Only give information pertaining to the arrest. Your whereabouts and how you got there prior is of no consequence.
@@agentsuperdave2191 ha ha yes!
All part of the game they play.
yeah i agree, gave far too much information. even speculating on others opinions and thoughts. talking about all sorts of nonsense that isnt relevant.
Give no information
Never say you understand to the cop's it actually means you "stand under" them.
Better to say I comprihend what you are saying 😊
I don't 'conprihend'.
Interviewed by a petulant teenager. Her mummy and daddy must be proud 😂
It's got nothing to do with standing under, that's a fmotl bull💩 argument...... 🙄🙄🤣
Tell me you get all your law advice from TH-cam........🛎🔚
She tried so hard to make you self-incriminate. Unlucky lass
He did at times self incriminate. By saying "...Controversial videos"
He was really really stupid in this interview - given the context of him being a PINAC auditor. He should have remained silent, so that the interview would have been just her voice droning on and on.
He shouldn't have given them his name. And he should have gone in sterile, so they couldn't get it off his banking card.
@@lint8391controversial isn't illegal
You handled that superbly especially to her leading questions.
4. The unlawful purpose found must amount to criminal activity.
5.If hiding in the backyard was to escape detection at the time that they were apprehended would not be an unlawful purpose because hiding from the police is not an unlawful purpose within the meaning of section 4.
Basically if they had gone through the law they would have realised it was an unlawful arrest a lot sooner but ignorance of the law is no excuse unless you're a police officer
The gates are wide open, representing a continuous break in the wall/ fence, and she says being there fits the crime of being found in enclosed premises. No wonder he got paid. She's either thick or corrupt.
How can she say “You know and I know….”, How can she speak to what ‘YOU KNOW’?
If the police claim that it is a private enclosed space, how can the simultaneously claim a public order offence when they also claim no public access?
Smashed it lad 👌 fair play,
Peace and respect 🫡
Well done Marti--!Good brave community journalist me thinks!!
That's a very diverse police station fair play.
OMG how difficult is it for her to understand 'enclosed'.
Good for you young man!
Not enclosed it was indeed an open area
Class yourself as an independent reporter.
FREEDOM OF PRESS.
That's want you are doing now
Your a legend love it
Of course it was Oldham 😂
Well done Marti, have fun spending your money! I hope the tyrants learn from their stupid mistakes but I wont hold my breath.
well done you keep up the good work love the vids
NO COMMENT IS THE BEST WAY TO GO ALWAYS
How do you sue the police got a few to dish out myself
Make a county court caim, either do it online, or get the claim form from the building. Pay the appropriate fee for the amount claimed, and it's as easy as that.
Were you interviewed by the station cleaner ?
😂😂😂
Why dose that woman keep telling him what he knows ? What illegal activities took place ? 👮🤡
Great to see how dilligent the police are, the efficient use of valuable police time, ensuring the safety and rights of the public are protected.
An FOI as to the cost of this exercise would be interesting, how many officers X how many hours, plus compo etc.
Desperate for a conviction rather than the truth , this is why we need policing by consent rather than policing by aggression.
The public dont pay for your garden. WE pay for the police station.
IF the area is easily accessible with no physical obstacle or barrier then there is no offence committed, the fact that the gate is broken is in your favour.
Whats the relevance of what vehicle you traveld in
how can a public order offence occur if its sup
posid enclosed premmises
I am looking to sue the police. Had my van stolen got it back with police attendance. 1 month later i was arrested for theft of vehicle driving the van and van seized ect. Long story but anyone have any tips?
i see now why they say you should have a lawyer when going to a police interview
And why "Don't talk to the police" is the best advice ever in this context.
First question from her was weird, 'How did you get here, whose car,' non of ya business tbh.
The charge was obviously never going to be successful. There was no ‘unlawful intent’. The custody sergeant should have refused detention and possibly saved the force some money.
Like an ex copper told me 'you can always find a stupid one'
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Thanks to Oldham police station for Funding Martys Holiday with his Lovely family , God Bless yee 👍
She's baiting constantly. Telling Marti what "he knows"..
They hate being filmed . And they will do anything to intimidate and incriminate a member of the public.
Enclosed
_adjective_
Surrounded or closed off on all sides.
champion....
I hate it when police say it’s private property when it’s not it’s open to the public and it’s not a police matter it’s a criminal matter
Well done Marty. Owned the interviewer as well. 👍
Can you commit a public order offence in an enclosed private place, as she claimed.
@Sylvia-Storm yes you can, however there are limitations
link to the other vid?
Tell you what Marti, that's BRILLIANT. What a result , you told them CLOWN coppers off good and proper and got 2.3k for doing it , very well done can't fault that 😂😂😂😂 , that's a good day's graft keep up the good work !
cop question 'what di yu have on you at time of arrest' I would have said ask custody Sargent they made a list
It amazes me that when cautioned people do not respond: by warning the police "you are interviewing me, and if you do not ask a question that may support my defence (exculpatory evidence) which you the police fail to consider, then it may harm your prosecution as the court may wonder why you failed to ask such question at the time."
This is the UK different rules to India mate 🌭
50p each X by 60,000 tickets is a lot of money?
She kept making assumptions on what you knew in relation to an enclosed space, stating that you knew you were in the wrong, Place was open, min would be tresspassing, Her questionig and assumptions would never have been accepted in court.
Criminal justice act covered everything and so compensation was due
Did she really ask what if you saw somebody in your garden? 🤦🏼♀️
Do they still actually have a entrance exam or just walk a line while talking.
Enclosed area of its fenced off all way round 🤔 technically that means any shop with its doors closed but unlocked would be an enclosed area by her logic
"Spending my compensation" love it
You should really try the posh areas of surrey they are a law unto themselves if you do be careful!🙏
Am genuinely surprised that went to court.
Marti you came across extremely articulately.
I think the take home message here for the police is that if you don’t want people wandering in your yard shut the gates and barriers 😆
No wonder our council tax is so extortionate 🙄
Definitely a quota girl!
Inside an enclosed area when the gate was open, making it no longer enclosed 🙈🤣
It has to be 'for an unlawful purpose.' - You cannot split the legislation like the interviewer did. Quote 'You were found by a police office in an enclosed premises' 'I would say you fit that offence!'
So she admitted the gate was broken; in one can only assume in an open position.
So an inferred right of access is available.
Kid's will be thinking keep doing what your doing daddy lol.
We shouldn't be 'surprised' that this officer doesn't know the definition of 'enclosed' and further doesn't know the law.
Did you get a lawyer or did you represent yourself after you sued them?
Got to 'love' the police, going for a subsection of a 200 year old vagrancy act...
Enclosed definition in Oxford definition is surrounded on all sides
August 2021 this happened and almost 3 years later they settle it loooool
Watching this again I bet SVR the solicitor who got struck off for fraud listed to this .
When she said that you fit the purpose of being in an enclosed space you should have put on record at that point that you do not agree with her or they could claim in court that you hadn't challenged that opinion when questioned.
Close and Secure the gate or its not Enclosed!
Watching from New Zealand 🇳🇿. Stay safe my friend.
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Congratulations Martie, it’s a victory for all of us.
Well the money comes out of our tax money anyway 😂🤣🤐lol
How do u sue , small claims track?
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Definition of *Enclosed* - surrounded by walls, objects, or structures.
Definition of *Surrounded* - to be everywhere around something.
Definition of *Everywhere* - to, at, or in all places or the whole of a place.
Summary - The car park was not *enclosed* as it didn't have walls, objects or structures *surrounding* the car park *everywhere.*
Really well handled Marti. Personally I would have used no comment a lot more but then again you know what you are doing.
I thought he handled it terribly. Remain silent means remain silent.
Not blab like a boot licker.
@@lint8391 yes i was surprised he talked so much because all they are doing is trying to entrap you.
He won. @@Yagdrol
Ordinarily it would be best to stay silent, but this is his job. He needs to create content to pay the bills.
NO COMMENT !!!!
From now own I want to see 100k paid by police forces for thise stupid arrest. Every time ego becomes bigger than actual law I want to see 100k fines!! Handled like a boss martie. Hats off! Let's just make it bigger and better now. Too meny time this happens all over the country. And until a big man stands up and asks for big money this will never end. So the next time stand up for everyone who encountered this ask for big money. Hopefully this will train officers across the land with such a high profile case to learn the law 1st before make stupid decisions. Sausages
£100k out of the public purse eh? Genius
Well done Marti😂
What do you have to disclose where you were an hour before arrest? is that any of their business?
Should do a revisit mate and thank the sausage for the the 2300
Law student, booked em Marty!!
Was the interview constable wearing a thin blue line? Twisting the situation and words.😎
@15.43 'You know & I know that IF THOSE GATES WERE DOWN, that's an enclosed area and you know it'...
-Should have read the Caution right back to her at the start...