Greenskinz! I know a lot of your guides are for online battles. However, I struggle in battles in Campaign when you are focusing on goblins when you are the Crooked moon and occasionally with the Bloody hand and you are using a lot of savage orcs who are good on impact but not so good after that. This is unique to the Orcs so a guide that breaks them down a bit further than some of the others would be good.
My guides aren't aimed at Online specifically. The stuff applies to offline or online. I can understand how it comes across that way though. I'll keep that in mind about the different faction types as you say. Thanks for the input Warchief!
@@kieranbrain7765 Flagellants believe (both the Warhammer ones and the real groups from the Middle Ages that they are based on) that the world is about to end because of sin. In the Warhammer world-building, they have used that to make them reckless units that have no armour value but fight until last man standing instead of fleeing (because dying doesn't matter anyway, as the apocalypse is approaching).
The Empire have monsters units: demigryph and steamtanks. The first one is a fast monster while the latter is a slow hulking one. Both of these units cause fear like other monster units.
Old comment af, but "monstrous cavalry" is not really a proper monster unit. The Siege Tank, however, totally does qualify even if it is classified as artillery
Another great one buddy Played Empire a hundred times and never thought to sacrifice Flagellants like that. Good stuff! Also never realised the Altdorf Gryphites were a different colour :|
I'm quite distinctly oblivious ;) Nah, usually concentrating on the battle than appreciating the close ups! Also they only call me Liz on the weekends, like...
The irritating thing about the Emp is that their infantry units aren't really capable of holding a static line; especially the low tier. This makes hammer and anvil tactics difficult to pull off, in my experience. The cav often gets bogged down in duels with enemy cav, and by the time they win, the infantry are either routing, or on the verge of it.
I'm getting more of a "public-access children's puppet show" vibe. Flagellant "Sesame Street". Flagellant "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood". Something along those lines. ♪It's a beautiful day in the Empire/A beautiful day to kill witches...♪
I love the handgunners, in a campaign I usually give each general six units of them. Together with the light wizards net they cut through zombies and giants like a warm knife through butter.
I always try to make a vassal of bretonnia and the border princes to form the "empire of man" like before the age of the three emperor's. Levying their units is extremely helpful, especially bretonnian cavalry. Flame archers are also really helpful in some situations as opposed to crossbows or handgunners that can only go so far. Fighting chaos with combined arms of multiple factions is an amazing sight to behold, and it really nullifies any disadvantages you would have if you were on your own.
I’ll never forget a battle I fought against the lizardmen. I had a basic garrison and 1 army versus 2 1/2 armies of lizardmen. I tried the battle twice, mainly by making one long line of infantry and one line of muskets/arty with some cav patrolling the flanks. The third time I elected to spread out my men into small chunks. Infantry would have small gaps between them on the base of the hill, followed by a few great swords some ways behind them to plug gaps if need be, and finally I kept muskets and crossbows at almost their max range as far from the front as possible. Cannons focused their biggest beasts. I had a forest to my right and kept my men in CQB formation there. I had outriders with grenades flank around when the enemy infantry engaged with my 1st line. Their beasts died one by one, and the forest had fierce fighting. By the end of it I used all of my ammo except a few crossbow shots on one single unit. It was a constant fight for my life and in the end I won without losing any of my army units. Then I realized the empire is goaded and I will never not love playing as them. Praise sigmar!
A few of my own observations from using the Empire. - Lore of beasts is great for supporting your infantry/flagellants. Not only can you assist them in dealing with infantry by using Flock of Doom on a bunch of units(as per usual), but Wyssan's Wildform really puts them into overdrive(especially with several flagellants and overcasts of this spell). The additional armor and weapon damage helps them so much during their initial charge, allowing them to hold a bit longer and deal even more damage for relative little magic/gold. Outriders(standard) are great at harassing monsters and fliers due to their long range and armor piercing damage. Taking 2 of these can do a lot of damage to enemy skirmishers, flankers, monsters and fliers and can be difficult to get rid of. They can help delay the initial charge of the enemy, as the opponent tries to figure out how to deal with these potentially deadly units(for 1400 gold, you get a lot of easy to apply armor piercing damage and mobility), giving more time for your artillery to fire or your other units to get into position.
That is part of it. But that's the thing. As I've said before, I'm good but not the best as I refuse to Gen Snipe and all that "meta" rubbish. I'm just trying to help pathetic peasants like you find some enjoyment in the game instead of giving up on it. :P
Look everyone! A useful peasant!? Who knew! That's not a bad idea in all seriousness. Though it doesn't help with the Goon Squad issue. Perhaps all Lords should have 30 second ability that greatly buffs their defence when 2 or more characters are within 10m or something.
The army stands and falls with it's lord. That is up to a certain point a good concept (realism), but in TWW there is definitely to much focus on that. If more and more players tend to play with such foul tactics, it indicates a massive balancing problem. I think all factors influencing the leadership of units should be overhauled to adapt things a bit. That could lead to more thrilling and interesting battles and it could make battles longer. A new ability for lords to defend goon squads also means more micro and that can't be the way to solve balancing issues. Just the thoughts of a faceless peasant in your army. So don't hold your breath! :D
Indeed, very true. It would be easily be solved however by just putting a cap on heroes. 1 melee and 1 wizard hero cap. Sorted. You're making a name for yourself with your outlandish word combinations and valuable input (...sometimes). You also have better English spelling than most British people. So well done. Haha. You'll make Knighthood in no time!
Weakness would be the infantry, if you front line meets a Chaos chosen, even with elites, your line will melt very quickly. Best case scenario is to hold as long as you can with infantry while you let the cav do flanking maneuvers or use mage aoe spells damage, buff and debuff. In a prolonged engagement against more tougher enemies with high morale, you will struggle. Chaos and lizard men infantry will destroy you if you dont soften them significantly before the front line meets.
Yeah I went ahead and got armored statetroops, they're pretty much identical to regular state troops with 20-30 armor more, so they're not elite level, but with the right skills and techs, buildings they can get quite solid.
I don't disagree, but what the Empire really lacks is good frontline AP infantry. Greatswords for instance are decent (not even good, just decent) against Chaos Warriors... until the enemy sends stuff like Chosen. Their only answer to that is Demigryph cavalry which are prohibitively expensive.
That's why I love the Empire and am an Empire main. Masters of none but Experts at all. I've been fighting along side ol' Franz since TW:W1 and I still learn a thing or 2 and you sir Zerkovich have helped a lot.
This video is well done my man congrats. The is i wanna point out tho is astheticly empire feels so good. You feel like you are a human trying to hold off monsters orcs vampires giant with tactics and gumpowder. Every battle i play as empire feels uplifting even when i lose. Your take on last battle was amazing however i was already blown away by those cannons firing at giants and demons and shit.
Another great one! Would love to see an in-depth guide on all of the Wizards. Best spells and tactics for each, as well any combinations, a la your cavalry/spear traps.
I may do something at some point but honestly I'm not the biggest user of magic as I'm not a huge fan generally. So I very often don't even bother with it and if I do, I'm not that great with it. Haha.
Haha I'm the same way. I kind of feel like the "Winds of Magic" ability hinders the need for a caster unless they have a great ability (heal, boss sniping , net of amy, etc.) or can also do well in melee. Well keep up the great work, look forward to your videos!
Great - just great -I like it how you explain and bring all the aspects regarding the usage of the Empire Army forward to the crowd! Very detailed, informative - with all the 'pro and cons' of the Empire Army compositions - you did again one of the best, if not the best, tutorials for the Empire Military power and their right usage to overcome their few deficits in the rank of their units - against whoever they may fight! CA - would have one of the best tutorial and strategy writers they may ever find out there - in your person! A joy to watch - loved it! Thank you...
I really enjoy your videos man, good stuff. Me and a buddy recently started doing 1 vs 1 battles and having a blast, so your guides break things down very nicely for newbies like us.
Net of Amyntok also works really well with hellstorm batteries. Combining the two you can break multiple enemy frontline units before they even reach you causing big disruption in the enemy formation.
As you pointed out, Empire missile cav isn't very powerful for the price, but they do have some great uses, thanks to firing on the move. They are phenomenal in late-battle situations, especially cleaning up routing units. It's really annoying to break the enemy's best unit, and then have them come back again. I like to save mine for when the lines are more mixed up and units are weakened. A fast missile unit can shift to where they're needed, and really rack up the kills.
Weak spirit leecher vampires, fearful hidden-behind-cannons humans, whats next? Short defence lover dwarfs? C'mon chief, do da' greenskinz guide, teach da' boyz the way of the Ctrl + A and right click. WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!
So far i've played a vampire count coop campaign and you made the army guide for them. then i start my empire solo campaign and you make a guide for them. i know these videos are meant for the battle aspect of the game and not the campaign but this is still very useful to know when building armies in the campaigns. But thank you for everything you do. you've taught me a lot about the game which in turn has gotten me much more interested in it.
I love the empire this prefect tactic to sit on the hill when luminarch and hellblasters destroying enemies when halbearders and great swords are holding the line
The High Elves are certainly my favorite faction, but I’ve grown rather fond of the Empire lately during my Markus Wulfheart campaign. Demigryphs are the greatest, rivaling even the mighty Dragon Princes.
I have been watching your videos regarding on what and what not to do on Warhammer as the Empire. I don't have the DLC, but I did managed to score seven victories out of 18 battles. Although I did model the formations from my previous experience in historical titles as I used the Swedish pike and shot formation in all the battles.
wonder if in the future the empire can get more units Imperial Ogres: Monstrous Infantry recruit-able only from Ostland Halflings: Stealthy archers with stalk and vanguard deployment but have low health and very poor melee stats recruitable only from The Moot White Wolves: A high strength Armour piercing melee cavalry armed with two handed warhammers
You make it seem so easy. Man, I struggle a lot, and I do a mess of a fight! I'm rewatching your "how not to suck at" videos, hoping for the best. Thanks so much.
Woop woop! More great work as always from my favorite TW youtuber. Thanks for all the effort you put into your vids and doing your best to get them right.
warrior priest: you take him for the replenishment buff not necessarily the leadership if playing SP demigryph: halberds for everybody, lance for dwarves
any tips on destroying the beastmen every time i just finished unifying reikland and move on to help stirland against the vampires those assholes keep attacking me how can i get rid of them?
I find regular knights and reiksguard quite good used defensively. Sitting in the back close to your ranged and ready to counter charge anything try to rush in. They do well against dogs/bats/low tier cav and can last against a long time against stuff that is more dangerous (which should be take care by ranged). They are kinda shit on the offense and just can't do flanking damage as good as outriders.
That was an extremely helpful video; versatile factions like the empire can, ironically, be harder to utilize due to a lack of specialization (Jack of all trades, and all that.). I was avoiding them because of this, but I think you've made a strong enough case for Sigmar's boys for me to give them a chance. P.S. I checked the damage output of the Handgunners vs Outriders, and the Outriders actually do faster damage in spite of the lower unit count, as they fire twice as fast. (It's a measly 4 extra a.p. damage about every 11 seconds, and they burn through their ammo in half the time). I still find O.R.s to be more useful than handgunners however; As you so succinctly pointed out at the 19:45 mark, the ark of the bullets can cripple a gun unit on bad terrain, so mobility and re-positioning are a must. I just can't get my handgunners into a good position swiftly or safely enough for them to impact the battle. Granted, this is probably due to a lack of skill on my part than a flaw in the unit...
Well I'm glad I can make you broaden your faction horizons. :D Outriders more useful than Handgunners?! Madness! I think the numbers advantage makes them far more powerful. Personally I find Handgunners great for blasting down Large units more than anything. So they can sit safely behind the frontline defending large incoming threats until it's safe to maybe flank round. Outriders definitely have their uses for sure. But as you say about the ammo and stuff, they're probably more use over a long period of time against factions that can't catch them. The fact that pretty much any flying unit can catch them and rout them, or they can get equally blasted by missiles, limits their use.
I've played several matches since then, and any large unit that hits my line head on now is a goner. It seems the "above the melee" rule for massive units isn't widely known; just the other day, my opponent sent a Varghulf to soften up the swordsmen directly in front of my handgunners before his main force arrived (I think he wanted to "charge-retreat-regen-repeat"). Thus did the epitome of frenzied bloodlust launch itself at my terrified warriors... only to fall flat on it's face. Priceless. Sadly, I haven't had any luck with the second suggestion. On matches where I preform well (or just get lucky), I can sometimes work my H.G.s around the edge of my main line, but then they get mobbed by some cannon fodder that detaches from the melee, or the diminished hostile cavalry regroups and charges while my own cavalry is "striking the anvil". I once thought that better mobility might help, but outriders turned out to be even worse somehow.
That does seem to be a common tactic with Vargulfs as they're quick and regen. But nothing a Handgunner or 60 won't solve, as you say. Yeah it can be risky. Sometimes sending your own diminished units or hero or even full unit to protect the Handgunners can be a good move.
wish that the empire gets all of the colleges of magic so we can get gold and amethyst battle wizards, generic lord level wizards, huntsmen (an archer unit with anti large attack and vanguard) also a few extra regiments of renown (especially carroburg greatswords) and more knightly order units.
So true about the demigryphs. Used well they are great but used poorly they are awful. I actually fought a guy who thought bringing nothing but demigryphs was a cool idea, he tried to sneak up on me through the woods but I saw him and my big 'uns and big 'in boar boyz were waiting for them. Guy conceded in about 5 seconds after the actual engagement. But then immediately after I fought an Empire guy who brought a well varied army with demigryphs and reiksguard as a cavalry contingent and I got wrecked because he was able to use nets and his cavalry defensively to keep his ranged wailing on me the entire game.
I use the sunmaker so much in campaign, its hilariously op vs the ai. I also generally just use handgunners exclusively. I never really found a use for crossbows. Also, in campaign there are 4 types of empires knights. default, reiksguard, knights of the blazing sun and finally, the knights panther. What makes the knights panther good/different?
Infantry : med buff, shock cavalry : variety choices, levels, slight buff, missile cavalry : med buff, cannons : med buff, steam tank : great buff. Overall for upkeep : med buff, build cost : med buff. Independent Southern Kingdoms, Empire realms, Pirates and all unique units.
In my very first Empire campaign i somehow got a crossbowmen unit survive all the way to Archaon knocking on my door. Got 9 chevrons on them as well...i named them The Lannister's Regards.
what's the skill I need to look for, That lets me Attack those unattackable evil Armies? I usually don't get to figure out who has that ability unless one of those armies pops up by then, Iv kited the wrong hero army and the stronger Army's are too far away to actually reinforce the one dude with the attacking capabilities I assumed it was the cleansing skill, was meant to be looking out for. but not all of those Heroes have not been able to attack evil factions that have that ability renders them unattackable.
the thing about outriders is that they are great against armies with poor ranged units like orcs or chaos especially if you're using a mostly defensive army they can have minutes of completely uncontested damage and are also useful for either swarming an isolated unit taking out skirmishers or morale shock charges
I know you might not read this comment since video is old but what hot keys do you use and did you change any? I’m thinking of making my space bar the pause or slow down button, P just doesn’t make much since but your videos have really helped me a lot on this game and I’ve finally been able to enjoy a total war game since medieval 2 total war
Since asking for a new video each patch would be too much, as of june 21nd, 2018, Empire got a buff, Hold the line now gives more melee defense instead of charge resistance vs all. Halberdiers now have charge defense vs all, so they negate the charge bonus if they're braced. Also the helstorm rocket splash dmg does more ap now. Also Helblast volley guns got buffed and really shread down units now. Also warrior priests got a bunch of stats and their abilities got increased duration or range.
Don't know much about playing on multi, but if your Archlector have eternal war skill (I think that's this skill. Don't remember) empire knights, flagalents and free company militia gets 10% speed bonus and can move in difficult terrain without any penalties. This is espiacially good for empire knights since they have only 66 base speed.
one good alternative to replace the slow and need protection artillery (other than the expensive steam tank) is the grenade launcher cav, and the campaign exclusive ones have armor piercing too, decent but not cheap
I believe that skirmisher cavalry is vastly underrated in ANY total war game, i feel like they should be give more attention that what it’s being given now. The number one problem i see people do with skirmisher cavalry is use it mainly as a pseudo missile unit, now i understand why they would do that, even i use to do that, but i now see the purpose of skirmisher cav, IT’S TO SKIRMISH. With skirmisher cav, you can send them to harrass the enemy and wittle down their numbers so that your infantry will have a better time. ALSO, skirmisher cavalry is great when you combine with shock cav or melee cav (mostly melee cav) cause once your skirmishers have run out of ammo or is in danger of being caught in melee by the enemy cav or infantry, you can send in your melee cav to busy themselves with the enemy units, and the reason why i say melee cav instead of shock cav is cause that you can send one unit of melee cav to distract a unit or two of infantry so that your infantry will habe less infantry to handle, making their job easier, and melee cav can stay alive in combat for long periods of time. So by the time they rout or get destroyed, YOUR infantry will destroy THEIR infantry and you can now focus on taking down the rest of their army. So Skirmisher cav and melee cav can make a great combo.
I feel like mentioning that the templehof Luminark has the Net of BS for its active ability. It and a light wizard vs Vampires is insanely good imo especially since the luminark itself keep away any zombie carts from buffing their front line. Plus this and a light wizard with only net can really help destroy a gone squad build since the temple will gets about 3 shots off before they are in range. Plus its Net doesn't cost any Winds of Magic. So as long as you keep it alive you have a Net which is pretty useful. I also agree with the Volmar although the only real reason to get him is for the banishment vortex spell he gets when he gets on his war altar. The Vortex also costs no winds of Magic. It's actually pretty funny to have this and the Temple and just run around throwing spells they cant run away from. It's been even better after they reduced the movement speed of vortex spells. I would also like ask a question about the celestial wizard. His passive lowers the missile defense and the melee defense of flying units. Doe that debuff continue is those flying units engage ground units?
whats missing was some advice on positioning the gunners with their direct arc of shooting.. I guess if you cant sit them on a small hill then you have to flank with them.
Thanks for great guide. I have some more question about Anti-Large. 1. From what I know is 'Charge defence against Large' will only work when unit is not moving and face to face with Cavalry, isn't it? So what if Spearmen moved toward to cavalry, but before cavalry reaching them I ordererd spearmen to stop moving by pressing Halt just before cavalry reaching them, do spearmen still get 'Charge defence against Large' in this way? 2. What about aura from 'Hold the line' ability that give 100% Charge resistance. This ability will only work in the same condition like 'Charge defence against Large' plus it provide all kind of charge not only from Large unit, am I right?
You need to face the charging unit and brace, I think it means being in a formation. The Hold the line gives charge resist which is a mass increase so your units won't fly around.
Which faction should I do a Guide for next?!?! ('like' to vote below)
Greenskinz
Dwarfs
Chaos
Greenskinz! I know a lot of your guides are for online battles. However, I struggle in battles in Campaign when you are focusing on goblins when you are the Crooked moon and occasionally with the Bloody hand and you are using a lot of savage orcs who are good on impact but not so good after that. This is unique to the Orcs so a guide that breaks them down a bit further than some of the others would be good.
My guides aren't aimed at Online specifically. The stuff applies to offline or online. I can understand how it comes across that way though.
I'll keep that in mind about the different faction types as you say. Thanks for the input Warchief!
"I am Karl Franz." - Karl Franz
Jimmy Jackson actually one of the funniest comments i ever seen in my YT experience (~3k hours or more)
Many call him emperor
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I am prince and emperor!
You good im passing by the Sigmas house.
Timestamps
Army Traits - 0:30
Main Strategies - 2:05
Lords - 5:20
Heroes - 7:26
Infantry - 9:50
Missile Units - 12:31
Cavalry - 14:10
Skirmisher Cavalry - 16:10
Artillery - 16:58
you are good man thank you
Thanks!
Flagellants taking damage "like there's no tomorrow" was a stroke of genius! :)
Hahaha that was actually completely unintentional. Didn't even realise the pun 'til you pointed it out xD
I don’t get it 😞
@@kieranbrain7765 Flagellants believe (both the Warhammer ones and the real groups from the Middle Ages that they are based on) that the world is about to end because of sin. In the Warhammer world-building, they have used that to make them reckless units that have no armour value but fight until last man standing instead of fleeing (because dying doesn't matter anyway, as the apocalypse is approaching).
Adam Westlund oh hehe
@@Azaghal8 well, in warhammer they were right
The Empire have monsters units: demigryph and steamtanks. The first one is a fast monster while the latter is a slow hulking one. Both of these units cause fear like other monster units.
*Steamtank appear*
Wth is that thing, stab it till it dies!
*cannon turns toward me*
Oh f-
*died by Demigryph lance on a sudden flanking maneuver*
Old comment af, but "monstrous cavalry" is not really a proper monster unit. The Siege Tank, however, totally does qualify even if it is classified as artillery
And the general's Griffins
Another great one buddy
Played Empire a hundred times and never thought to sacrifice Flagellants like that. Good stuff! Also never realised the Altdorf Gryphites were a different colour :|
Hahaha how!? They're quite distinctly grey.
Thanks Liz!!
I'm quite distinctly oblivious ;) Nah, usually concentrating on the battle than appreciating the close ups!
Also they only call me Liz on the weekends, like...
4:34
* Arch Lector under a *vortex* *
Arch Lector: "Like I give a _fuck_."
The irritating thing about the Emp is that their infantry units aren't really capable of holding a static line; especially the low tier. This makes hammer and anvil tactics difficult to pull off, in my experience.
The cav often gets bogged down in duels with enemy cav, and by the time they win, the infantry are either routing, or on the verge of it.
Who would win:
A giant who is humongous and almighty, can destroy pretty much every unit
Or
Some bois with literally a long sharpened pencil
And the pencil is lined with hot sauce
And supported by tiny birds raining down on the giant in waves...
Imagine being pierced by 20-30 spears while taking 50 bolts to the face.
Sigmar's house. Not hall or palace, house. Is it on sigmar's council estate?
Hahah!
Who's House!? Sigmars House!
I'm getting more of a "public-access children's puppet show" vibe. Flagellant "Sesame Street". Flagellant "Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood". Something along those lines. ♪It's a beautiful day in the Empire/A beautiful day to kill witches...♪
On our way to sigmar's house.
Richard Littleton pre drinks at Sigmar's house
'you've paid for a lesser unit, you absolute clownbag'
- that's my signature move!
I cracked up at the end. "See you perverts in the future". Best end line yet
:P
For Sigmar's House!
I love the handgunners, in a campaign I usually give each general six units of them. Together with the light wizards net they cut through zombies and giants like a warm knife through butter.
I always use a bunch of handgunners backed up with spearmen and halberds and I just use pike and shotte tactics
I'll be cold in the ground before I play any faction than the Empire.
"This action does not have my consent" Karl Franz on the actions of Karl franz
I always try to make a vassal of bretonnia and the border princes to form the "empire of man" like before the age of the three emperor's. Levying their units is extremely helpful, especially bretonnian cavalry. Flame archers are also really helpful in some situations as opposed to crossbows or handgunners that can only go so far. Fighting chaos with combined arms of multiple factions is an amazing sight to behold, and it really nullifies any disadvantages you would have if you were on your own.
I’ll never forget a battle I fought against the lizardmen. I had a basic garrison and 1 army versus 2 1/2 armies of lizardmen. I tried the battle twice, mainly by making one long line of infantry and one line of muskets/arty with some cav patrolling the flanks. The third time I elected to spread out my men into small chunks. Infantry would have small gaps between them on the base of the hill, followed by a few great swords some ways behind them to plug gaps if need be, and finally I kept muskets and crossbows at almost their max range as far from the front as possible. Cannons focused their biggest beasts. I had a forest to my right and kept my men in CQB formation there. I had outriders with grenades flank around when the enemy infantry engaged with my 1st line. Their beasts died one by one, and the forest had fierce fighting. By the end of it I used all of my ammo except a few crossbow shots on one single unit. It was a constant fight for my life and in the end I won without losing any of my army units. Then I realized the empire is goaded and I will never not love playing as them. Praise sigmar!
A few of my own observations from using the Empire.
- Lore of beasts is great for supporting your infantry/flagellants. Not only can you assist them in dealing with infantry by using Flock of Doom on a bunch of units(as per usual), but Wyssan's Wildform really puts them into overdrive(especially with several flagellants and overcasts of this spell). The additional armor and weapon damage helps them so much during their initial charge, allowing them to hold a bit longer and deal even more damage for relative little magic/gold.
Outriders(standard) are great at harassing monsters and fliers due to their long range and armor piercing damage. Taking 2 of these can do a lot of damage to enemy skirmishers, flankers, monsters and fliers and can be difficult to get rid of.
They can help delay the initial charge of the enemy, as the opponent tries to figure out how to deal with these potentially deadly units(for 1400 gold, you get a lot of easy to apply armor piercing damage and mobility), giving more time for your artillery to fire or your other units to get into position.
You're making these guides to meet better opponents online huh? It must be lonely at the peak.
That is part of it. But that's the thing. As I've said before, I'm good but not the best as I refuse to Gen Snipe and all that "meta" rubbish. I'm just trying to help pathetic peasants like you find some enjoyment in the game instead of giving up on it. :P
Generals should have way more magic resistance to solve this gen-snipe problem, but I'm just a pathetic peasant, what do I know?
Look everyone! A useful peasant!? Who knew! That's not a bad idea in all seriousness. Though it doesn't help with the Goon Squad issue. Perhaps all Lords should have 30 second ability that greatly buffs their defence when 2 or more characters are within 10m or something.
The army stands and falls with it's lord. That is up to a certain point a good concept (realism), but in TWW there is definitely to much focus on that. If more and more players tend to play with such foul tactics, it indicates a massive balancing problem.
I think all factors influencing the leadership of units should be overhauled to adapt things a bit. That could lead to more thrilling and interesting battles and it could make battles longer. A new ability for lords to defend goon squads also means more micro and that can't be the way to solve balancing issues.
Just the thoughts of a faceless peasant in your army. So don't hold your breath! :D
Indeed, very true. It would be easily be solved however by just putting a cap on heroes. 1 melee and 1 wizard hero cap. Sorted.
You're making a name for yourself with your outlandish word combinations and valuable input (...sometimes). You also have better English spelling than most British people. So well done. Haha. You'll make Knighthood in no time!
Weakness would be the infantry, if you front line meets a Chaos chosen, even with elites, your line will melt very quickly. Best case scenario is to hold as long as you can with infantry while you let the cav do flanking maneuvers or use mage aoe spells damage, buff and debuff. In a prolonged engagement against more tougher enemies with high morale, you will struggle. Chaos and lizard men infantry will destroy you if you dont soften them significantly before the front line meets.
Pakorn Wattanavrangkul empire definetly lacks any high tier infantry
Yeah I went ahead and got armored statetroops, they're pretty much identical to regular state troops with 20-30 armor more, so they're not elite level, but with the right skills and techs, buildings they can get quite solid.
Pakorn
I think every line of every faction is meant to melt before Chosen ;7
Pakorn Wattanavrangkul that’s why the Empire is kind of artillery-focused.
I don't disagree, but what the Empire really lacks is good frontline AP infantry.
Greatswords for instance are decent (not even good, just decent) against Chaos Warriors... until the enemy sends stuff like Chosen.
Their only answer to that is Demigryph cavalry which are prohibitively expensive.
I really love your guides, please do more! Alright, time to watch the video now.
Hahah you've done this in the wrong order!? What if the video sucked?! D:
impossible, I've watched a ton of your videos already. NONE have dissapointed so far.
Oh. My God. Not all units can fire over other units. NO WONDER I CAN'T GET THEM TO DO DAMAGE
That's why I love the Empire and am an Empire main. Masters of none but Experts at all. I've been fighting along side ol' Franz since TW:W1 and I still learn a thing or 2 and you sir Zerkovich have helped a lot.
This video is well done my man congrats.
The is i wanna point out tho is astheticly empire feels so good. You feel like you are a human trying to hold off monsters orcs vampires giant with tactics and gumpowder. Every battle i play as empire feels uplifting even when i lose. Your take on last battle was amazing however i was already blown away by those cannons firing at giants and demons and shit.
GUMPOWDER X-D
Another great one! Would love to see an in-depth guide on all of the Wizards. Best spells and tactics for each, as well any combinations, a la your cavalry/spear traps.
I may do something at some point but honestly I'm not the biggest user of magic as I'm not a huge fan generally. So I very often don't even bother with it and if I do, I'm not that great with it. Haha.
Haha I'm the same way. I kind of feel like the "Winds of Magic" ability hinders the need for a caster unless they have a great ability (heal, boss sniping , net of amy, etc.) or can also do well in melee. Well keep up the great work, look forward to your videos!
22:55 holy shit that is hilarious. The way they all get demolished by the trolls made me laugh so hard. I must have rewound and watched it 2-3 times.
Great - just great -I like it how you explain and bring all the aspects regarding the usage of the Empire Army forward to the crowd! Very detailed, informative - with all the 'pro and cons' of the Empire Army compositions - you did again one of the best, if not the best, tutorials for the Empire Military power and their right usage to overcome their few deficits in the rank of their units - against whoever they may fight! CA - would have one of the best tutorial and strategy writers they may ever find out there - in your person! A joy to watch - loved it! Thank you...
I really enjoy your videos man, good stuff. Me and a buddy recently started doing 1 vs 1 battles and having a blast, so your guides break things down very nicely for newbies like us.
Net of Amyntok also works really well with hellstorm batteries. Combining the two you can break multiple enemy frontline units before they even reach you causing big disruption in the enemy formation.
As you pointed out, Empire missile cav isn't very powerful for the price, but they do have some great uses, thanks to firing on the move. They are phenomenal in late-battle situations, especially cleaning up routing units. It's really annoying to break the enemy's best unit, and then have them come back again. I like to save mine for when the lines are more mixed up and units are weakened. A fast missile unit can shift to where they're needed, and really rack up the kills.
Hmm... Let’s see if I can get a thing started.
”WELCOME TO ESTALIA, GENTLEMEN!”
I WILL NOT LIE, THE CHANCES OF YOUR SURVIVAL ARE SMALL
Weak spirit leecher vampires, fearful hidden-behind-cannons humans, whats next? Short defence lover dwarfs? C'mon chief, do da' greenskinz guide, teach da' boyz the way of the Ctrl + A and right click. WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!
I do luv da Greenskinz. Grimgore iz da best! WAAAAAAGGGGHHH!
not really until the batteries of the grand convetion show up and bombard them in to dust. your army wide moral sucks you know.
Don't you laugh! It's these brave men who earned the right to be transformed into Spa.. Stormcast Eternals!
Sigmarines.
Oh god AoS i'm gonna barf
So far i've played a vampire count coop campaign and you made the army guide for them. then i start my empire solo campaign and you make a guide for them. i know these videos are meant for the battle aspect of the game and not the campaign but this is still very useful to know when building armies in the campaigns. But thank you for everything you do. you've taught me a lot about the game which in turn has gotten me much more interested in it.
I love the empire this prefect tactic to sit on the hill when luminarch and hellblasters destroying enemies when halbearders and great swords are holding the line
The High Elves are certainly my favorite faction, but I’ve grown rather fond of the Empire lately during my Markus Wulfheart campaign. Demigryphs are the greatest, rivaling even the mighty Dragon Princes.
Great video, really like the unit shots in the army rundown!
Great video mate, really helped me understand the Mighty Empire!
Glad to be of service. It's a little dated this guide, but still some useful in there.
Thanks for the guide, it gave me a better understanding of how to use an empire army. Cheers!
I have been watching your videos regarding on what and what not to do on Warhammer as the Empire. I don't have the DLC, but I did managed to score seven victories out of 18 battles. Although I did model the formations from my previous experience in historical titles as I used the Swedish pike and shot formation in all the battles.
Do you use the halberds as substitute for the pike?
love your guides, pretty direct and explains a lot
wonder if in the future the empire can get more units
Imperial Ogres: Monstrous Infantry recruit-able only from Ostland
Halflings: Stealthy archers with stalk and vanguard deployment but have low health and very poor melee stats recruitable only from The Moot
White Wolves: A high strength Armour piercing melee cavalry armed with two handed warhammers
You make it seem so easy. Man, I struggle a lot, and I do a mess of a fight! I'm rewatching your "how not to suck at" videos, hoping for the best. Thanks so much.
So well done, thank you. Great visuals to match your commentary!!!!!
Good work man! Your army guides are super helpful!
I love your videos bro, so helpful and getting me thinking about new stuff to try out. can't wait for more!
great great video even in 2020,from vietnam with love zerkovich
Woop woop! More great work as always from my favorite TW youtuber. Thanks for all the effort you put into your vids and doing your best to get them right.
Well thanks for your support and loyal viewership. You keep watchin', I'll keep churning 'em out!
Great guides! Looking forward to your work on TW2. Very informative and thorough.
Thank you G. I look forward to making them! :D
Would you do a reviewed version for all of these factions? So many changes and additions right now
Thanks for this video, I just started playing and I'm still very new to the factions
warrior priest: you take him for the replenishment buff not necessarily the leadership if playing SP
demigryph: halberds for everybody, lance for dwarves
Why do I get a "silver for monsters, steel for humans" vibe ?
Been waiting for this!
¡Santiago y cierra, España! Im new with this faction and they remind me the almighty Spanish Empire
any tips on destroying the beastmen every time i just finished unifying reikland and move on to help stirland against the vampires
those assholes keep attacking me how can i get rid of them?
5:41 prepares cheese sandwich accelerator that accelerates Cheese sandwiches to 20 km/s
I would love seeing updated versions of some of these, the ones that are outdated
Think its time to redo the guides
HI! Love the guides. Where do people play online? Is there a dedicated site?
I find regular knights and reiksguard quite good used defensively. Sitting in the back close to your ranged and ready to counter charge anything try to rush in. They do well against dogs/bats/low tier cav and can last against a long time against stuff that is more dangerous (which should be take care by ranged). They are kinda shit on the offense and just can't do flanking damage as good as outriders.
That was an extremely helpful video; versatile factions like the empire can, ironically, be harder to utilize due to a lack of specialization (Jack of all trades, and all that.). I was avoiding them because of this, but I think you've made a strong enough case for Sigmar's boys for me to give them a chance.
P.S. I checked the damage output of the Handgunners vs Outriders, and the Outriders actually do faster damage in spite of the lower unit count, as they fire twice as fast. (It's a measly 4 extra a.p. damage about every 11 seconds, and they burn through their ammo in half the time).
I still find O.R.s to be more useful than handgunners however; As you so succinctly pointed out at the 19:45 mark, the ark of the bullets can cripple a gun unit on bad terrain, so mobility and re-positioning are a must. I just can't get my handgunners into a good position swiftly or safely enough for them to impact the battle. Granted, this is probably due to a lack of skill on my part than a flaw in the unit...
Well I'm glad I can make you broaden your faction horizons. :D
Outriders more useful than Handgunners?! Madness! I think the numbers advantage makes them far more powerful. Personally I find Handgunners great for blasting down Large units more than anything. So they can sit safely behind the frontline defending large incoming threats until it's safe to maybe flank round.
Outriders definitely have their uses for sure. But as you say about the ammo and stuff, they're probably more use over a long period of time against factions that can't catch them. The fact that pretty much any flying unit can catch them and rout them, or they can get equally blasted by missiles, limits their use.
I've played several matches since then, and any large unit that hits my line head on now is a goner. It seems the "above the melee" rule for massive units isn't widely known; just the other day, my opponent sent a Varghulf to soften up the swordsmen directly in front of my handgunners before his main force arrived (I think he wanted to "charge-retreat-regen-repeat"). Thus did the epitome of frenzied bloodlust launch itself at my terrified warriors... only to fall flat on it's face. Priceless.
Sadly, I haven't had any luck with the second suggestion. On matches where I preform well (or just get lucky), I can sometimes work my H.G.s around the edge of my main line, but then they get mobbed by some cannon fodder that detaches from the melee, or the diminished hostile cavalry regroups and charges while my own cavalry is "striking the anvil". I once thought that better mobility might help, but outriders turned out to be even worse somehow.
That does seem to be a common tactic with Vargulfs as they're quick and regen. But nothing a Handgunner or 60 won't solve, as you say.
Yeah it can be risky. Sometimes sending your own diminished units or hero or even full unit to protect the Handgunners can be a good move.
8:04 - "Or you could plunk him on a horse and getting him to go and pimp-slap some wizards" - Best line in this video. ;)
*"SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS"* - Me anytime i pick the Empire
Thanks a lot. Very informative. I wish i had this when i started to play warhammer 2.
That was a fantastic example battle for the artillery segment.
You need a revised guide with WH2 in the mix because these units get wrecked by all the new troops
I think if he's gonna go through the trouble of remaking all his guides, might as well wait for TW:WH 3 and o it then...
... IF...
Your guides are very good! Enjoy watching them. Just got the game and enjoying my vampire campaign.
Best empire army in campain: 15x steam tanks, 4 hellstorm rocket launchers
I really love faction reviews from you.
Thanks J.J!
wish that the empire gets all of the colleges of magic so we can get gold and amethyst battle wizards, generic lord level wizards, huntsmen (an archer unit with anti large attack and vanguard) also a few extra regiments of renown (especially carroburg greatswords) and more knightly order units.
Think you could redo this guide after all the changes?
How do you do the auto flank? I've never seen it
Meant the quick key flank
Thanks Zerkovich - bout to start a new Empire campaign
For Sigmaaaaar!
Keep up the good work man!
So true about the demigryphs. Used well they are great but used poorly they are awful. I actually fought a guy who thought bringing nothing but demigryphs was a cool idea, he tried to sneak up on me through the woods but I saw him and my big 'uns and big 'in boar boyz were waiting for them. Guy conceded in about 5 seconds after the actual engagement. But then immediately after I fought an Empire guy who brought a well varied army with demigryphs and reiksguard as a cavalry contingent and I got wrecked because he was able to use nets and his cavalry defensively to keep his ranged wailing on me the entire game.
OMG Zerkovich, I loved this video. It's just pretty well done. GJ.
Question: Is cavalry considered a large unit?
Jolly good! Glad you appreciate it.
And yep! Keep them away from Anti-Large!
I use the sunmaker so much in campaign, its hilariously op vs the ai. I also generally just use handgunners exclusively. I never really found a use for crossbows.
Also, in campaign there are 4 types of empires knights. default, reiksguard, knights of the blazing sun and finally, the knights panther. What makes the knights panther good/different?
My question is: Would a Pike and Shotte style Empire army be useful?
Yes
15:39 a missed opportunity to shock everyone with "that is literally RE-FUCKING-TARDED, you absolute clownbag"
Could you please do one of these for Orks? This guide was excellent and I'd love to learn the Orks next.
Beautiful win mate!
Infantry : med buff, shock cavalry : variety choices, levels, slight buff, missile cavalry : med buff, cannons : med buff, steam tank : great buff. Overall for upkeep : med buff, build cost : med buff. Independent Southern Kingdoms, Empire realms, Pirates and all unique units.
Thank you for making this video 🙂💙
In my very first Empire campaign i somehow got a crossbowmen unit survive all the way to Archaon knocking on my door. Got 9 chevrons on them as well...i named them The Lannister's Regards.
what's the skill I need to look for, That lets me Attack those unattackable evil Armies?
I usually don't get to figure out who has that ability unless one of those armies pops up
by then, Iv kited the wrong hero army and the stronger Army's are too far away to actually reinforce the one dude with the attacking capabilities
I assumed it was the cleansing skill,
was meant to be looking out for.
but not all of those Heroes have not been able to attack evil factions that have that ability renders them unattackable.
the thing about outriders is that they are great against armies with poor ranged units like orcs or chaos especially if you're using a mostly defensive army they can have minutes of completely uncontested damage and are also useful for either swarming an isolated unit taking out skirmishers or morale shock charges
this is amazingly useful, thanks!
I have an updated version that just dropped also!
HAHA! Those flagellants have all gone to drink tea and biscuits at "Sigmars house". For honour, for glory... and cookies.
I know you might not read this comment since video is old but what hot keys do you use and did you change any? I’m thinking of making my space bar the pause or slow down button, P just doesn’t make much since but your videos have really helped me a lot on this game and I’ve finally been able to enjoy a total war game since medieval 2 total war
Since asking for a new video each patch would be too much, as of june 21nd, 2018, Empire got a buff, Hold the line now gives more melee defense instead of charge resistance vs all. Halberdiers now have charge defense vs all, so they negate the charge bonus if they're braced. Also the helstorm rocket splash dmg does more ap now. Also Helblast volley guns got buffed and really shread down units now. Also warrior priests got a bunch of stats and their abilities got increased duration or range.
Don't know much about playing on multi, but if your Archlector have eternal war skill (I think that's this skill. Don't remember) empire knights, flagalents and free company militia gets 10% speed bonus and can move in difficult terrain without any penalties. This is espiacially good for empire knights since they have only 66 base speed.
Once I get an army made of tanks I go full Phil Swift on the enemy. Especially the undead.
''THAT'S A LOTTA DAMAGE!!''
I'm surprised Settra doesn't use Flex Tape.
He'd be downright indestructible.
*Laughs with Chosen w/ Greatweapons.
one good alternative to replace the slow and need protection artillery (other than the expensive steam tank) is the grenade launcher cav, and the campaign exclusive ones have armor piercing too, decent but not cheap
I believe that skirmisher cavalry is vastly underrated in ANY total war game, i feel like they should be give more attention that what it’s being given now. The number one problem i see people do with skirmisher cavalry is use it mainly as a pseudo missile unit, now i understand why they would do that, even i use to do that, but i now see the purpose of skirmisher cav, IT’S TO SKIRMISH. With skirmisher cav, you can send them to harrass the enemy and wittle down their numbers so that your infantry will have a better time. ALSO, skirmisher cavalry is great when you combine with shock cav or melee cav (mostly melee cav) cause once your skirmishers have run out of ammo or is in danger of being caught in melee by the enemy cav or infantry, you can send in your melee cav to busy themselves with the enemy units, and the reason why i say melee cav instead of shock cav is cause that you can send one unit of melee cav to distract a unit or two of infantry so that your infantry will habe less infantry to handle, making their job easier, and melee cav can stay alive in combat for long periods of time. So by the time they rout or get destroyed, YOUR infantry will destroy THEIR infantry and you can now focus on taking down the rest of their army. So Skirmisher cav and melee cav can make a great combo.
I feel like mentioning that the templehof Luminark has the Net of BS for its active ability. It and a light wizard vs Vampires is insanely good imo especially since the luminark itself keep away any zombie carts from buffing their front line. Plus this and a light wizard with only net can really help destroy a gone squad build since the temple will gets about 3 shots off before they are in range. Plus its Net doesn't cost any Winds of Magic. So as long as you keep it alive you have a Net which is pretty useful.
I also agree with the Volmar although the only real reason to get him is for the banishment vortex spell he gets when he gets on his war altar. The Vortex also costs no winds of Magic. It's actually pretty funny to have this and the Temple and just run around throwing spells they cant run away from. It's been even better after they reduced the movement speed of vortex spells.
I would also like ask a question about the celestial wizard. His passive lowers the missile defense and the melee defense of flying units. Doe that debuff continue is those flying units engage ground units?
whats missing was some advice on positioning the gunners with their direct arc of shooting.. I guess if you cant sit them on a small hill then you have to flank with them.
Nice guide! Are you planning to make guides for Norsca and the new factions of Warhammer 2? :)
Yes Sir I do.
Thanks for great guide. I have some more question about Anti-Large.
1. From what I know is 'Charge defence against Large' will only work when unit is not moving and face to face with Cavalry, isn't it? So what if Spearmen moved toward to cavalry, but before cavalry reaching them I ordererd spearmen to stop moving by pressing Halt just before cavalry reaching them, do spearmen still get 'Charge defence against Large' in this way?
2. What about aura from 'Hold the line' ability that give 100% Charge resistance. This ability will only work in the same condition like 'Charge defence against Large' plus it provide all kind of charge not only from Large unit, am I right?
You need to face the charging unit and brace, I think it means being in a formation. The Hold the line gives charge resist which is a mass increase so your units won't fly around.
Any thoughts about updating this (and other factions’) video since Warhammer 3 seeks to be the finalization of the unit rosters?
Very nice videos. I don't have all the Battle wizards though that you mentioned....