@@uselessguy1 getting to a higher speed quicker will give you a higher average speed even if the final speed is slower (to an extent). There’s a bunch of math behind it
@@storms13 it's not really a lot of math, and it's not that complicated. If you get to top speed on grass in say, 1000 units of distance, and on ice in 2500 but with 2 more speed, then you just take the distance ice is lagging behind and see how long it takes to catch up (1500/2=750). So unless you really care about the brief period between 799 and 801 speed on ice, the maths is fairly simple
Considering you instabtky go super fast the moment you start on plastic should be a given. I just did not know grass limit their speed different than dirt.
Can you make graphs with time on the X-axis and speed on the Y-Axis for all surfaces and lay them ontop of each other with different colors? would be so cool
i knew plastic was faster then road by alot but i didnt know it only was +3 mph from 860-999. also grass tops out at 799 and ice tops out at 801 weirdchamp
Well, it wouldn't be a circle for a start. The best turning radius for a perfect speed drift depends on your speed and what surface you're driving on. It would be astonishingly difficult to make it a "fair" race.
As far is i know you can slide and hit the back of the Car at a wall slightly. Than the car will get a extrem speed boost, i played a lol map a while ago where you had to do it and with that you could propably get over 801 :)
In game top speed should be capped at 999 regardless, at least while on a surface, neither boosters nor perfect speed or ice slides can go over it In air tho? No idea, since speed is also measured in a funky way where if you're flying sideways you're at 0 speed on the speedometer but you're probably flying at 900 in the direction you're headed
I only realized right now, that the lights on the bottom are the gears. I have about 10 hours into the game so far. I was wayyyy too preoccupied with looking at the road to notice this. ;P
I can calculate (first at all trackmania uses km/h). Grass = 37 sec for 799 km/h Ice = 63 sec for 801 km/h Using Uniform accelerated motion formula Grass travel distance at 37 sec is 4.1 km Ice travel distance at 63 sec is 7.0 km Now we convert km/h to km/s dividing by 3600 to know information in seconds Grass = 799/3600 = 0.221944 km/s Ice = 801/3600 = 0.222500 km/s Now we can use this formula because they not gonna acelerate anymore (d + (v*t)). 7.0 + (0.221944*x) = 4.1 + (0.222500*x) x = 5215 sec is about 01 hour and 26 minutes (FUCKING MUCH TIME)
while the low friction means you lose less energy, it also means you can't input as much energy from the engine. So it shouldn't have a higher top speed than the rest.
Top 1: Plastic (MAX speed and 01:47.499) Top 2: Road (MAX speed and 01:48.462) Top 3: Dirt (899 speed and 01:54.070) Top 4: Grass (801 speed and 02:01.831) Top 5: Ice (799 speed and 02:12.368) This didn't take a long time to make, as it is only 5 materials.
If you're gonna go into penalty surface territory this video would probably triple in length There's penalty grass, penalty ice aka snow, penalty dirt/off-road, and then there's water which caps at 200 speed in TM2020
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This is not wiggle street.
do with wiggle
I have to admire the fact that you put in effort to name and colour each car accordingly to surface.
Good job sir.
@@cyberplayerTM a tas wiggle could be cool.
Clearly his money don't wiggle, wiggle.
No ice slide or sd?
i guess these are full speed tracks
Mappers be like
Map style(tech)
Take my like and shut up
I would rather say, that it's a press forward map.
@@_TeXoN_ did u see these turns
Obviously speed tech map with transitions
Nah man those are tech maps
i love how each car is named and colored after the surface theyre on. such a nice detail
A nice detail too he did is with the audio balance (you hear grass car on the left speaker and ice on the right one)
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Till u notice only road is number 01
Plus the tag on the backs match the surface aswell
@@notjason1362 pla is plastic
I like how all of them are still accelerating, and grass is like
799. Take it or leave it
yet it was still somehow faster than ice.
@@uselessguy1 Accelerated much faster even though the speed cap was slightly lower.
@@uselessguy1 getting to a higher speed quicker will give you a higher average speed even if the final speed is slower (to an extent). There’s a bunch of math behind it
@@storms13 it's not really a lot of math, and it's not that complicated. If you get to top speed on grass in say, 1000 units of distance, and on ice in 2500 but with 2 more speed, then you just take the distance ice is lagging behind and see how long it takes to catch up (1500/2=750). So unless you really care about the brief period between 799 and 801 speed on ice, the maths is fairly simple
@@uselessguy1 thats cuz ice capped at only 2 speed higher but took way longer to get to that speed. no shit grass was faster
Conclusion: paint your car yellow.
mrBigSmile, get ready for people to comment not getting the joke
@@himearikawa3130 haha yep
RED GOES FASTA
@@DeeKeyLP yep, they don't know red is the main character's colour
@@himearikawa3130 I'm so stupid that I'm a level further, I don't even know what p stands for
Micka would make an easy win on the ice Track.
And add a 360°
he would find a way
first, get him to bugslide
@@nathananderson5674 ice wiggles make you faster than driving straight
i didn't know plastic was slightly faster than road
You learn by the day I guess, even tho you should've known that
Considering you instabtky go super fast the moment you start on plastic should be a given.
I just did not know grass limit their speed different than dirt.
@@hayabusa10055 plastic is weird af
@@SamuSeen it seems that it only goes faster at the start but immediately just becomes like normal road
@@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683 plastic has better grip
Can’t wait for the TAS.
Noseboost goes YEET
heck even “standard” wiggling/speed drifting would be interesting to watch
Grass : i'mma end in 99
Road : i'mma end in 99
Dirt : i'mma end in 99
Plastic : i'mma end in 99
Ice : *i'mma end in 01*
1:40 The sacrifice of being faster than light is that you must live in the dark
these cars got a long final gear lol
Can you make graphs with time on the X-axis and speed on the Y-Axis for all surfaces and lay them ontop of each other with different colors? would be so cool
This test was really helpful, I wanted to do this a long time ago because I did the same in TMUF but this is indeed interesting, thanks for the video
I’d like to see a comparison using perfect speed slides/wiggles on each with TAS
1:35 road made it to heaven
weirdly, this is the video that got me into trackmania! thanks lol
Grass is grippier and faster in acceleration than Ice, but the latter has 2 km/h(or are they mp/h?) more in maximum velocity
Km/h because most of the playerbase is outside usa
couldve just said ice and speed but sure
@@kanvolu Because the game is made by a French company*
@@austinhua4911 speed and acceleration are very different things
@@twinklesprinkle1318 speed and velocity are not very different things
This just further justifies my disdain for ice
The way ice, grass and dirt reach a point where they can't accelerate past due the traction of the terrain stop working a nice detail to the game
When it says 999 is that actually going to stop accelerating or is the display too small?
It stop accelerating
@@NAISBAISFSX Thanks
Can you still go faster than 999? (I mean by using boosts or something)
@@baguettefish yes
@@baguettefish TM-Unlimiter
the problem is that (i think) it can't be used for TM2020
this looks like some abstract anime wallpaper i'd find on wallpaper engine
Great video!
Would be great to see this with the new wood surface
Oddly satisfying 🙂
What are the 5 different surface types? Dirt, Ice, Plastic, I only know of this game due to Wirtual, never played it.
Grass and asphalt
grass, road, dirt, plastic, ice
@@Mandarin9900 he already mentioned the other three in his question lmao
@@almar456 right...
I was more impressed by the fact that is going through clouds, didn’t even knew it was a thing
I want full speed ice maps now
Would be cool to see how they compare if u implent tricks like sd and wiggle
TAS would just noseboost and finish in 10 seconds lol
Now i wanna see charts for that speed
Ok that was intense.
grass: nah big man ting, can't go over 799 *hits blunt*
i knew plastic was faster then road by alot but i didnt know it only was +3 mph from 860-999. also grass tops out at 799 and ice tops out at 801 weirdchamp
km/h*
@@fishtail2616 urmomph
@@OPEK. you know what
@@OPEK. mymomph
@@fishtail2616 km/h*
One plot would have been worth more than the entire video imo. Still interesting. Thank you!
"WE SHALL LEAVE THE SKYBOX"
so this is truly a full speed track
Brainless
omg i wanted to see this now do tas speed sliding vs non speed sliding
i can practically smell the burning rubber
remined me of the thx opening theam
everyone gansta till it go dark
I am rubber, you are glue.
the car goes flying when they reach the end
now we need to find a shortcut 😂
U should do one that’s circle shape as a Tas, with perfect speed drifts. See what’s faster then
Would be hard to do since there isn't a TAS for this game. maybe PF+Right/Left could work.
Well, it wouldn't be a circle for a start. The best turning radius for a perfect speed drift depends on your speed and what surface you're driving on.
It would be astonishingly difficult to make it a "fair" race.
Talk about burning rubber
What is it with these "Only press W" mapers?
Press forward?
can u test the grip ?
I wonder if you could keep an ice slide going for long enough to hit higher speeds than this
As far is i know you can slide and hit the back of the Car at a wall slightly. Than the car will get a extrem speed boost, i played a lol map a while ago where you had to do it and with that you could propably get over 801 :)
@@Cryf4lixTM patched
@MigueLace.124 TM seeing as that guy would be mentioning that ice trick, yeah it most likely is patched now so the kacky map isnt possible i guess
In game top speed should be capped at 999 regardless, at least while on a surface, neither boosters nor perfect speed or ice slides can go over it
In air tho? No idea, since speed is also measured in a funky way where if you're flying sideways you're at 0 speed on the speedometer but you're probably flying at 900 in the direction you're headed
@@taranciucgabrielradu with glitches you may go over too, but not sure, the sum of the vectors may be capped.
would have been interesting to have the graphics for speed acceleration, nice video anyway !
They sound like planes
I only realized right now, that the lights on the bottom are the gears. I have about 10 hours into the game so far. I was wayyyy too preoccupied with looking at the road to notice this. ;P
Bro I have 400 hours in the game I just knew where gears are I’ve never known that they were displayed on the back
Buzz when he reached Hyperspeed:
*Speed*
Interesting that ice has a higher top speed than grass
Newton would be proud
And now there's wood.....
Speed of old granny start and speed of light after 20 seconds
How does magnet compare?
Tell me why these sound badass and like jets/big airplanes
Idk why i had my volume on Max until like the midle of the video
Someone wanna calculate how much longer this run would need to be for ice to catch back up to grass doing 801 vs. 799?
I can calculate (first at all trackmania uses km/h).
Grass = 37 sec for 799 km/h
Ice = 63 sec for 801 km/h
Using Uniform accelerated motion formula
Grass travel distance at 37 sec is 4.1 km
Ice travel distance at 63 sec is 7.0 km
Now we convert km/h to km/s dividing by 3600 to know information in seconds
Grass = 799/3600 = 0.221944 km/s
Ice = 801/3600 = 0.222500 km/s
Now we can use this formula because they not gonna acelerate anymore (d + (v*t)).
7.0 + (0.221944*x) = 4.1 + (0.222500*x)
x = 5215 sec
is about 01 hour and 26 minutes (FUCKING MUCH TIME)
@@APozziwoah
It's highly unlikely the plastic is PLA
And then someone finds a shortcut
Try this but with super speed pads only
OK now TOP speed on Cactus as we now have a cactus Trackmania land
Ice is an outlier. Driving on ice has much lower acceleration and a total max speed of _801_ (ending with 01 instead of a nice 99)
wierd how the cameras at the end dont line up exactly ? wy is that
You should at evenly spaced poles to better show the acceleration
10hr version?
Going at 999 i see...
what about under water?
ice was 700 light years behind
Which game is this
Hey is the map file available somewhere?
Sadly no. I think the tracks were too big or something. When I tried to open them, the files were corrupted.
Ice should have the highest top speed but slowest to get going because almost no friction.
while the low friction means you lose less energy, it also means you can't input as much energy from the engine. So it shouldn't have a higher top speed than the rest.
They should add rubber...
Welp atleast road got 2nd
what about blacc
It's the same as road
same as road,however car can defy physics in magnet road
Now do a wiggle test
How about those clouds huh?
I got to 1972 speed by falling off the map pretty vertical lol
still wondering how the tires didn't pop tho (I know this is a game, but in reality these tires may pop off the moment it hit 500 kmh)
lol true! it must be forbidden technology
and that's how fast bitches run away when u r around
I want to see a car go 999 and then turn
And this is why plastic is best 😎
tldw;
plastic = fast
ice = slow
0-100 km/h under a second on plastic xD
What's the yellow one called
Plastic!
Is it grass, asphalt, dirt, plastic, ice ? going from left to right in the video I mean..
Yes, car are named like the surface: grass, road, dirt, plastic and ice
@@thomasg6849 Oh wow, I didn't notice haha
@@quentindewiest5169 :)
yellow car is best
what's that yellow surface??
Plastic
y am i watching this
grass acceleration seems broken. it makes no sense that it abruptly caps at 799
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Top 1: Plastic (MAX speed and 01:47.499)
Top 2: Road (MAX speed and 01:48.462)
Top 3: Dirt (899 speed and 01:54.070)
Top 4: Grass (801 speed and 02:01.831)
Top 5: Ice (799 speed and 02:12.368)
This didn't take a long time to make, as it is only 5 materials.
Slight correction: Ice is 801. Grass is 799.
@@MadManwithaSpoon oh okay
Acceleration difference between plastic and road;
plastic 100 = road -50
plastic 100-200 = road -40
plastic 200-400 = road -25
plastic 400-800 = road -20
plastic 800-999 = road -4
Plastic best material? 🤔
The 2 extra speed than grass was not worth it for the long run.
plastic good
No magnet?
Magnet is a custom surface, it's not an official game material
Grass legit just gave up
Aren't there a few more surfaces, like snow & water? Dunno, only been playing for 3 hours, mostly watching wirtual.
Like sure it would take forever to finish a 700 block track on those surfaces but seeing a short cameo of them would be nice
If you're gonna go into penalty surface territory this video would probably triple in length
There's penalty grass, penalty ice aka snow, penalty dirt/off-road, and then there's water which caps at 200 speed in TM2020