Building a Voima with Pole CEO Leo Kokkonen.
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- Pole Bicycles founder and CEO, Leo Kokkonen goes through the process of building a Voima e-bike frame at our factory in Finland.
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As a machinist, I cannot stop staring at the machined parts. So beautiful. So nice...
....................soooo much material binned
@@raymondo162 Nope, it’s 100% recycled! Every bit of the material removed is recycled. In fact, you would be foolish not to recycle it since they pay you for it. 👍👍
I feel like I would love coming to work daily to make these. It's so satisfying to work with exact tolerances, machined and clean, torqued parts. It's just beautiful engineering that would be a privilege to work with.
Great video Leo, inspiring stuff when the CEO knows exactly how their products are put together. The Voima is awesome and I suspect a game changer for eMTB’s, from what I’ve seen it’s a real allrounder. Amazing engineering!
He knows his product inside and out and can build put it together and ride it like it's stolen. That gold is so loud and proud, love it!
just to let you know what a great bloke u have as a rider - Joseph Nation. met him at Petzen (e-)EWS. did not know he was one of the elite riders, started talking to him, and what a pleasant person he is. completely down to earth beast + arms like a hulk. later i found him on strava, he is a beast of a rider. he let me try his e-bike, the golden pole. oh my gosh. i actually started to consider whether i should get myself a pole bike. in the end i got your hardtail and have not yet regret the purchase. all thanks to Joe Nation, he is the man!
Aivan uskomatonta osaamista! Ja vielä aivan naapurissa. Ei voi kuin ihmetellä ja ihailla, että Suomesta tulee tällaista luksusta. Olisihan hienoa itsekin ajella aidolla Polella, mutta toistaiseksi joudun kurvailemaan Muuratharjulla vain amerikkalaisella ”halppispyörällä” ja tyytymään omaan voimaan. Jatkakaa Polkemista - Pole for victory! 💪
My new Voima arrived! It is beautiful. Thank you for building such a great bike.
Just my 2 cents worth but if you place a felt cover over your table top it would limit bouncing,sliding and noise.Nice job to have .Love it.
And for any risks of scratches, I had the same thought 🤪👍
I'd like to think that this particular C3PO unit would have been happy that he'd been made into a bike frame upon his passing.
Brilliant observation!
Awesome job Leo and amazing bike. Hard effort is paying off!
It’s so different watching this after actually having the Voima. It really helps you understand how your bike is made, which helps with installation, upgrades, and future maintenance. This is not something you are likely to see from other brands, and certainly not from the CEO. I would like to see a video on customer assembly once the bike is received, as well as how to replace all bearings from a consumer perspective. The manual was good, but I was still confused on a few things. I also still don’t know how to install lights or the Kiox display, and there isn’t too much out there about those topics.
Looks very straight forward to assemble a well designed and well made bike 👍👍
OMG, PLEASE make this available with a Rohloff hub, E-14 shift, and a Gates Belt Drive. That would be SO epic.
Tää on kyllä hemmetin siististi suunniteltu. Moni ei ymmärrä millanen työ on ollut saada nuo kaikki osat ekan kerran ylipäätään koneistettua saati sarjatuotanto kelpoiseksi. Värinöiden ja kiinnitysten kanssa on varmaan muutama haaste ollut ja pari suttakin saattanut syntyä 😅
My words exactly.
I've never seen or heard of these before, but was drawn by the design, engineering, fabrication and construction.
It is very clearly exquisitely created, an absolute visual joy, meticulously precise attention to detai, and a remarkable level of fit and finish.
This is superb quality, and I can only imagine how good the ride is, the new owner will no doubt be delighted to receive their work of art on wheels.
Thank you for the walk through in your spotlessly clean facility, subscribed.
What a workshop - What a bike.
Awesome!!! Aerospace quality.
Really nice video....that bike is awesome.. !
I was surprised to see how many fins ride bikes even in the snow....it would be awesome to visit your shop on my next trip Finland..!!!
This is so cool, everything fits perfectly and looks high quality. 🤩
I know the price is fair considering all the machining and quality tools, so I need to take a very deep look into my pockets. Maybe I will find some more cash 😅
even if I were to use a microscope, I wouldn't be able to find any over here lol
It’s a work of art!👌🏻 seriously making me wonder what I could get for my Kenevo SL?😩
Amazing work of engineering!!
Excellent video, great looking bike!
Dont know anything about bikes but that looks awesome. Looks like quality :D Bet its expensive.
Wow, that thing is amazingly massive looking...
Love the bike... And the shirt. Can afford the shirt. lol
For reals though, please take a look at Valeo Effigear Cyclee mid-drive motor & gearbox assembly. Would love to see your bike with it. That would be my dream ultra low maintenance build.
Stunning,love it!
Queue music 🎵 nothing like I've ever seen, IT'S JUST A THING OF BEAUTY!!
What a great design amazingly machined. Will there b other colours in the pipeline? Red, Blue, green?
Piece of art
This frame with a bafang ultra. Would love that
Loved everything about that frame except battery key lock.
If the new MGU - Pinion motor gear boxes turn out to be good and this company starts to use, I’ll be dumping my current ebike for a Pole.
I saw a'review saying it weighs 25.5kg! Thats what my Haibike ways with 150 travel, imagine this one with 190mm Travel 😲🤩
Ohhh Man it looks like a'pc of Expensive Jyvelry in that Gold color😍 kind of feeling Proud of being a'Fin 🤠
Leo, could you please make a regular mountainbike (non e-bike) version of the Voima?
Yes! It’s out tomorrow.
@@leokokkonen275 Well that was quick :D Thanks, Leo!
Beautiful frame
Life goals
Could you show the complete build ?
Good idea.
@@Polebicycles could you tell me the torque setting for the bolts that mount the motor into the frame please? Thanks 😊
AWESOME !
I would be interested if there is a Pinion E12 option.
An amazing bit of kit,, sexy sophisticated fab colours and right at the top for technology,,,,, and yes am trying to get this one as my next, E Bike😉👌❤️🇬🇧💛💛💛
I see STAHLWILLE torque wrenches, I upvote.
Moto style brakes, nice! I'm still trying to find a way to mount my rear brake to my right pedal as well 😜😅
Such a wild frame design. It's definitely a marmite frame, but i love it.
Amazing bikes if only I could afford one
😁 An ebike... I guess that's ok but still, it's a Pole! 💙💙💙. Most beautiful bike ever!
*_Bbeeaauuttttiiiffffuuuullll_* 🤩😍🥰❤
ART
Please lay a towel or something down on top of table... not to mark the beautiful anodized finish while assembling and hammering in components....
Beautiful! What is the approximate cost in USD?
Hi! If you head to our website polebicycles.com/ and select your region to the USA (if it doesn't automatically) you can see an up to date, daily exchange rate for all of our products in USD
What Torque Wrench is that?
Nice. What tool are you using to tighten the chainring lockring? Thanks
www.bike-discount.de/en/cyclus-tools-assembly-tool-for-bosch-locknut-spider-active-line-plus
Why isn't the Bosch motor fully enclosed? Same as it was with Brose. Some cooling issues?
The motor needs to be cooled down. Same goes to Brose. The motor looses power if it goes too hot.
How much is one of these fames approx?
FRAME - can i order a bash guard around the motor, louvered aluminium probably, i dont want to use my CNC frame as a bash guard, ta.
FASTENERS - you don't use lock-tite?
Wow cool!
Man I wish i could afford one of these.
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Ta - i look forward to your answers.
I seriously wonder who’s riding these bikes. I haven’t seen one in 10 years of riding
If you mean this model, we shipped out the first early this year. Pole will be ten years old next year, and we have sold bikes to 37 countries. Nevertheless, this is a comment from e-mtb forums: "I saw not one, but TWO Voimas in the space of about 3 minutes while walking home from the shop on Sunday. Common as muck!" www.emtbforums.com/threads/pole-voima-190mm-travel-emtb.29082/page-6
tanta nove hora pra montar só esqueceu da hora de dar marretada pra encaixa peça tava sobre a mesasem nenhuma proteção em baixo
Beautifully engineered… but if that frame is machined from solid, they must be throwing away 90% of the material! And the front shock mount yoke “acts like a spherical bearing”, so why not just use a spherical bearing? I dare not look at the price of such a bike.
We recycle roughly 96% of the material we purchase. The good thing is that metals recycle 100%, and the process is efficient. The price starts from 7990€ ;)
That frame is the size of some of ev-motorcycles
But lighter.
I would bet Bianchi could compete against that frame with their frame building skills.
Great if your super rich
I have no idea what he's putting together.
He's making a jet fighter.
I sincerely hopelessly hope this will not be moved to China anytime soon.
Over my dead body 😂
Oh I got my Voima. Just no charger and being ghosted
con lo que echan de grasa ...a la semana eso esta traqueando
I appreciate the effort but I just don’t like the design. I also don’t see the big deal about cnc’d frames. If you’re looking for seem-less then carbon has been around for decades.
Pole went bankrupt, and left a lot of paying customers hanging who lost a lot of money.
This video aged well....they just went out of business, filed for bankruptcy. Maybe charging 14k for a bike wasnt the wisest choice. Lmao
Is it true? That you make those Bikes so they cant be De'restricted! Pole the Company that KILLED THE FUN IN EMTBS😡
😀Good question. When we build the bike, we specify the geolocation, wheel size, and riding modes. Some of these settings can be changed at the service centre. The answer is no. We don't have to control any of the features that prevent restriction.
@@Polebicycles Kiitos 🤠
Super......
Polar makes horrible looking bikes. And this one is the ugliest of them all. But man! What an amazing piece of engineering are we seeing on this video. Cheers for that.
95% of the comments say it’s an amazing looking bike. You are a very small minority
I Dunno which company you are referring with Polar.
Looks great to me!
You haven’t seen it assembled yet. It does look horrific. Mainly because of the angle of the seat post and fork.
So much non value added work going on there, it's a wonder they make any money. Guy's if you need to shave huge savings of your bottom line, give me a call.
E bike...Extremely lazy peoples bicycle
crap
I so want this
hey guys, watch me build a custom bike that nobody can afford, good job, Nice bike.
Man, that frame is absolutely stunning! So beautifully made and engineered. Mind blowing really.
I agree, as an airplane guy, bike frames are really far advanced in how they are contructed and designed, planes are crude in comparison!
Awesome that the CEO is doing this. Shows that it's enthusiast owner and not just another corporate giant interested only in profit.
No wonder these are so expensive, they are assembled by the CEO!
😄
Beautiful piece of work, I do like the way you've left the machining marks visible in the program, really nice touch......I want one!!
I'm thinking to save money, less time on the machine.
Possibly my dream job of combining cnc machining with bike building!
This bike is a work of art
It is indeed!
What’s with the heavy duty gloves 😂😂are you a brick layer by trade😂😂
Wish list ✨️
1. I would like to see the frame in black colour option in the future. 🙃
2. Bosh new mini remote. 😍
Thanks for your work 🤙
love this video
It is a thing of beauty Leo. Well done.
Thank you!
This is pure craftsmanship. My god what a beautiful bike.
What I wish for this industry to be consumer friendly is if they would make the motors consumer serviceable and make parts easy to buy. I don't want to be without my bike for several weeks when I can do it at home myself. I don't see the value in a lifetime warranty for a frame with a motor. Frame bearings aren't a problem, but when the motor will need new bearings and you are out of warranty you are screwed. You can try to open it up and service it at home, but it will be without manual, without proper diagnostic tools, and very likely without easily accessible parts. And after some the motor is much more likely to cause a lot of problem rather than the frame. This ebike MTB industry seems hellbent on making it to the top of most environmentally unfriendly ways to go electric.
Bosch sells a service kit dumba$$.
@@ATEC101 Thanks Ill just buy a service kit to Shimano EP8 from Bosh then. Oh wait.
Yeah, it's a bummer that the motors are not easy to service. The main issue is that everything needs to be in a light package, and the motor is rather complex. Luckily the motors are relatively inexpensive themselves. I bet there will be more solutions in the future for this
@@Polebicycles Thanks for your answer. I hope there will be more solutions in the future. Having watched a few videos of disassembly of a EP8 it seems like a job that takes several hours, not the least because they are extremely compact and it is easy to damage the components. But still, I don't understand the reluctance to sell the components and gaskets to consumers. Motors being relatively inexpensive is good, but it does not solve the problem of it seemingly being a total waste to buy one when one could have repaired an old one. It also seems unsustainable that you can't easily keep your frame and upgrade from EP8000 to EP8 motor since they use the same bolt holes. Is this just a Shimano issue, or EMTB in general I wonder. Seems very consumer hostile. A frame from Pole is built to last for a very long time it seems, and would be a perfect candidate keep for a long time with upgrades over time.
Really like this video. Plz put rubber mat on that table when assembling these beautiful bikes.
What a magnificent piece of machinery!! It deserves the best components like a COMBINATION MOTOR/GEARBOX! Check out the Revonte!! Cant imagine a better bike👍🏼👍🏼🚲
Interesting video!
Thats dope, i hope i can try your ebike one day…! 🤭👍🏻
Very good and unique design mtb in the world.....!
I would love to ask how is the motor controlled? I’m a Disabled Vet here in the U.S. I have a back injury and very rarely ride on crazy trails. I chose a Trek full suspension e-bike. I wanted the suspension for making any uneven ground or anything you may encounter on a road side ride less shockingly painful. I went with the e-bike to help me flatten out my ride. I wanted something that would take that extra strain from hills off of me. So I could focus on getting some cardio in. I really pushed myself but in the end I failed. The bike had a few settings that it would run the motor to assist. It just didn’t have the settings I was looking for. I tried asking trek if they could think of anything and they pretty much gave me a “we don’t support modifications made….” Speech. I tried the same with the motor company but they pointed at trek… I even tried finding a throttle lever hack… in the end I just got tired of trying. One person treated me like I was just being lazy and wanted to run it like a battery powered motorcycle. I just wanted to get more power or control how much power the bike used going up hilly terrain. I get it not everyone needs that, I’m just trying to find the best all round option for myself, to try and take care of what’s left of my body. My back is trash but I need some sort of way to get cardio and so far this and a standard recumbent trike are my best options. The bike was actually the cheapest and had the extra help I was hoping for. I guess that’s stupid to most.
@J K Hello, J K !
I highly recommend a book called "Healing Back Pain" by John Sarno.
I wish You the greatest Good!
My Dream bike 😛 WOW 💪
Leo, almost every one of those steel fasteners going into aluminum threads should be getting hydrophobic grease on the threads during assembly. Give that bike 2-3 years or less for galvanic reaction to take place and freeze those fasteners in there and when they go to remove it will either rip out the threads or break the fastener.
Good question. The threads have been treated with electrophoretic clearcoat in the same process as the whole frame. This method is similar to, for example, stems. They anodize the stems and use steel bolts. You could add some grease to be more secure, but it's unnecessary.
@@leokokkonen275 What a polite way to punch someone in the dick.
Can you make me a mullet one with 440-445 chainstay :D
The chainstay length is all about balancing riding characteristics in climbing and descending. Our chainstay length could be already decreased, but we need to look at the whole wheel path to optimize the bicycle geometry to cornering. The 455 is optimal. We have used this throughout our lineup in the past as well.