it's honestly crazy to see just how powerful the new bleed team is with the bloodfiends. AND we're yet to see Don Quixote's season 5 ID, which has a 99% chance of being absolutely busted. I wouldn't be surprised if bloodfiends beat blade lineage at being completely broken
@BMallow I don't think so, since that never really was the case before. People are predicting that it'll be a Sancho ID (Devs are too afraid to make Don Quixote this hot as she was in the EGO)
@@ViktorSachiif you were a better player then gaslightmael’s sanity mechanics wouldn’t even be an issue here sanity would even be easy to manage since she can regain almost all of her sanity in one kill if you play it right, THEREFORE THE FAULT LIES WITH YOU VIKTOR, ALL OF IT. *cough*
This community is so insufferable, you’re probably better off ignoring everything they say. She’s pretty good, and she works amazingly well with Priest Gregor if you have him!
I wanna be her princ- *Cough cough* I mean huh? All jokes aside. While I don’t think she’s designed nearly as well as Priest Greg, and I’m a little disappointed that she buffs him so substantially that my previous takes on the fact that you can’t just brain off win rate spam with him are now obsolete; I still love this ID. She’s got such great and interesting effects and mechanics, and no real flaws. She brings such an intriguing and fun to mess with dynamic to bleed teams. And I don’t joke around when I say that doing a trio run with the three bloodfiends is the most fun I’ve had in this game in a long time. However, all that being said, glory to my GOAT Priest Gregor
Actually, I agree. I don't enjoy Gregor being superhealed by Rodya because his intended gameplay loop gets too streamlined. Doesn't make him any weaker, but a bit less fun.
@ultranumhere Exactly! Glad to see someone who agrees. She really takes a lot away from his gameplay design by making his self blood just no longer a real issue. Kind of a shame, he’s still pretty fun though.
6:55 No it won't. You missed the line [Prioritizes Bloodfiends] on those effects: They will ALWAYS select a Bloodfiend ally when possible with their effects, even if a non-Bloodfiend has higher or lower Max HP. Check YOUR OWN FOOTAGE at 12:25 to see that Barber got the +Attack Power despite N Faust also being on the team.
For anyone here that feels bad for not having Sanguine Desire: It does not work on most of her infliction since its main source comes from Blooming Thorn.However,her Hex Nail E.G.O in the Limbus Pass seems to work for bleed infliction.
i really like that her rupture aligns with Point sang's s2 to help with the conditional, other than that she could be straight A.S.S that it wouldnt matter but WE HAVE A SANGUINE DESIRE USER WOOOOOHOOO, not only that a strong one, BLEED IS S A V E D
Ive been defending her in the discord severs Ive been a 1 man army against so many people and finally I saw light in your video, I am finally not alone finding her very good, she has AOE, she has insane support value, she gives dmg bonus to everyone she has the best bleed ego in the game and she perfectly fuels it, she has pretty gud not too shady but pretty good count aplication, she has healing to her mates, she can suck Gregor as a gameplay mechanic (not outside of context) and even has potency shenenigans with bleeding talisman! also the audio is perfect this time in ur vid ;)
I would personally preffer to run hook lu in the last slot over nfaust because even though rodion fuels sanguine desire rather well shes missing the one wrath which is also how much wrath is in the bleed team. So hook lu not only fixes the wrath problem but also has more potency application in his kit than nfaust as well as whistles or ig whispers being able to activate from bench. Sure you lose out on gaze but in game modes where you either dont have resources or start at low sanity (3 res vs 4 and hook lu has same amount of lust as nfaust) id run hook lu on top of his better clashing
@Talisman_Sinclair exactly sanguine desire needs one wrath which is exactly how much wrath is in the bleed team in this vid so that's one sanguine desire every 6 turns
@@noishfanboy1141 I may be wrong about this but from what i heard when we use a ego we also get the sin resource the ego is and since desire is wrath we get 1 wrath resource meaning that outis only needs to use it once? I may be wrong about this though, never tested it
@Talisman_Sinclair this is correct but what I'm saying is that since you only have one wrath skill and it's a s3 no less you'd have to wait until your s3 showed up to get the wrath needed. And barber outis s3 is a big nuke skill that you prob want to use either alongside or after sanguine desire to capitalize on all the bleed on the enemy for the conditionals
When I seen her, I was thinking to tell my friend (verhly new to the game) to roll her and just as I was thinking that I get a message going like "LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and he got her with 1 ticket
Finally someone with a functional brain talking about this id. I can't understand how so many people are failing to understand how good she is because mostly all I see "she doesn't have stupidly high bleed count" as if bleed count is a problem. Bleed has been my main team for close to a year and I can't remeber how long it's been since I struggled with count or had to use sanguine desire to build/manage count cause with a good team it's really not that hard to do
I'm going to make the bold claim that N Faust can be relegated to support passive now. Festive Fever is just AoE Gaze pretty much, passive SP recovery is covered by Priest Greg (and, well, benched N Faust herself), losing Fluid Sac access is not a big deal thanks to Rodya's Hex Nail (which, by the way, is also more damage support from the passive) and with Sanguine Desire being a real ego now the good Count infliction from Nails is not as important. You do lose a bit on unique debuffs for RingSang, but you'll still likely have a lot of Bleed and Rupture, as well as Sewing Target plus whatever random bullshit RingSang throws out. So now we can finally replace an ID with 2 good skills and 4 shit ones for an actually competent ID (who coincidentally also has the same affinities). And as we get more Bloodfiends she's just gonna become even better, as her passive relies on Bloodfiends to give her Blooming Thorn quickly. So the current best Bleed team is gonna be the three Bloodfiends, RingSang, Spider Ryoshu, and RSault (really only here because Mircalla is actually broken tbh)
Yes, you're right. That's the progression I'm seeing as well. Though Don is gonna probably be there over meursault once she gets her ID. Meursault is pretty much a stop-gap solution for now ig
@@Whurry Fluid Sac can be worked around. Rodya's Hex Nail (or in a desperation evene Gregor's Garden of Thorns) can be used for healing, not to mention the Bloodfiends can all heal themselves, and SP can be handled bu Faust's support passive and Greg's passive, or in an emergency even Greg's Bygone Days (though I prefer Lantern in the Teth slot)
You know an id is good when you struggle to keep an enemy alive to see her 4th skill (the only time I managed to make it happen she only got through the first 2 coins)
Festive Fever does not boost any of the bloodfiend nukes to 30%, only 15%. The boost only doubles when the skill consumes bloodfeast, and unless the special status effects (scissors, hand, thorns) count as bloodfeast somehow, it will only apply the weaker boost.
I got her and the barber... The game gives me gifts... I started like week ago... Came through factorio... The conveyor belts reach far and wide... Also Faust wanted to join my roster too. Can't stop the stream.
Because of this trio of vampires, I am now torn between r Corp. Mersault and Hook Hong Lu. Mersault gives a lot of Bleed count and has a very beautiful and strong ego for bleed, but Hong Lu has wrath at s1 what allows you to use a spiral of contempt. I like it and dislike it very much at the same time. It's so cool that we have so many incredible options and it's so sad that we can't poot them all into one ultimate command (thats good for team building but still sad). Also kinda sad that all Kurokumo IDs was power kreeped, only KK Ryoshu is +- good alternative for REP Ryoshu.
I recommend to you use a Chef Ryoshu instead of her two alternatives , first - good lust defense, second - first S1 is red , S2 is purple and S3 is lust - literally for Contempt awe you need only pride , but with Rodya's S1 and Gregor's S2, that is pride - you don't have a lot of problems with that. The only problem is her bleed application, but really - Contempt awe is Contempt awe after all
People being pepega forgetting about her second skill giving bloodfiends 4 final power is fucking insane she litteraly can roll 26 on her second skill and it’s a dam envy skill lmao, she definetly lives up to second kindred status lol, also fun fact her skill 3 consumes thorns only after the combat end so technically u can use the finale multiple times, I don’t know if it was a glitch or not but that happened to me
Can anyone explain how much Blooming Thorn Rodion gains from skills? I just don't quite understand the part ( 2 times per turn). For example 1st skill: Apply 1 Blooming Thorn(BT) for 10 Bloodfeast (2 times per turn). Does this mean that she can only get 20 BT with this skill per turn even when there is another same skill on dashboard or does this mean she can get up to 40 BT and 2 times per turn means that only 2 1st skills on dashboard can get BT?
is it worth the 800 shards do you think to get Barber Outis and Sanguine Desire? or do i stick with my current team comp: REP Ryoshu, Ringsang, Grippy Faust, Princess Rodion, Priest Gregor, Ring Outis
@@clswtz new seasonal don id will be interacting with the vampires(buffing/changing his skills?something like that according to KJH and maybe give them buffs too)so its better to shard barber too
By having 25 blood thorns above, duration is not affected by coin power, rather than the blood thorns accumulation either using base variant or stronger variant
I'm just got into the game a few days ago and got princess rodion so I don't know much but does she work well with middle Don and middle meursault? All I read was bleed and I was like yep imma put them together
Kinda worried about the lack of Wrath in bleed. I know you just need ONE for Sanguine Desire but the only source on most bleed teams is going to be Barber Outis skill 3. This is of course assuming you run the "standard" team of the Bloodfiend trio, Ring Sang, Red Eyes Ryoshu, and N Corp Faust. Perhaps Faust should be dropped for Hook Lu for the wrath gen?
Superbia is also a thing, though. It may be better to use that ability on Contempt, Awe however, because its passive will allow the team to generate more wrath reliably.
@@oatmeal3919 and the problem with Superbia or any of Dante's power is the once per IRL crap. Should be Once per Luxcavation, once per mirror dungeon (or even once per floor?) once per railway or maybe once per rest stop in railway and so one.. let us actually use the powers.
with both the other bloodfiends (so far) on a bleed team, would you say barber outis is better than ring outis even without sanguine desire? you brought it up at the end of the video but I was wondering if ring outis would still work better on a SD-less team (at least until next walpurgis rolls around)
I'm 90% sure rodion's s2 attack power up always prioritizes bloodfiends so it won't actually hit NFaust, it will only juggle between barber outis and gregor (if he bleeds himself enough) Idiot alert: It's me again, I noticed that someone else already brought this point up and was responded to, my bad.
Yeah, no, she's nutty. I do think, however, that only giving her one slot is a mistake. Her thorn generation is...subpar. That, and you can never have enough healing from her really awesome passive.
Correction:her skill 2 prioritizes blood fiends not the lowest max hp meaning it will always target outis and Gregor before anyone else in a bleed team
definitely save for walpurgis since it should be soon, and also since dulcidia will be a permanent identity (and only being limited in the next season) you can always shard her instead after grinding md alot, meanwhile walpurg ids/egos r only available every 3 or so month i believe (whenever the walpurgis event happends)
I think that Dulcinea rodion with the blood fiend trio, sancho ID could kill the need for ring sang on field. My ideal team in the future would be Rodion and the blood fiends, red eyes ryoshu, r corp meursault and the future sancho ID Our CEO learned how to beat his greatest enemy
I'll go ahead and toss the spoiler in the read more for people. Speculating on Don's ID. I'm actually wondering if Don is going to be the real Don or Sancho. I feel like Sancho is more likely, but it'd be weird if we didn't get an ID of the boss ID. I'm not even sure who would fit as the real Don if we get Sancho Don, though Meursault DID get a yearning mircala...
. . . . . . . . we actually got a preview on what the new don id could be from dulcidion's uptie story, we are getting a sancho that betrayed dad quixote
new meursault id seems extremely unlikely considering he already got a 3 star for this season, which is really unfortunate because i would prefer he got a bloodfiend id to match yearning mircalla. rhino is just lame to me honestly
Mirrors reflect the worst version of yourself, dons I'd is sancho for that reason, for don to get a don boss I'd, shewould have needed to be a first kindred instead of second This isn't the first time we didn't get a final boss I'd, with the other one being farmwatch
So many people get wrong expectation of her. Half says that she's good, half says she's mid. Even i definetly dont know a lot about her. However, i want to point out some things that will make me or you, more knowledgable. 1 - 16 is really not a high roll for skill 2, its today standart. What makes it so good is that conditionals are really easy - 30 bloodfeast for 2! (since she applies 1 to anyone and 2 for bloodfiends) power ups is great. The bleed conditionals are harder, but still reachable 2 - this problem was stolen from moomoo. Since rodya consumes bloodfeast at combat start, the bloodfeast will go in a loop: rodya consumes 0 bloodfeast (cause first turn), gregor made some bloodfeast and outis eats it all. Next turn - 0 bloodfeast in the bank, 0 bloodfeast for rodya. That is less of a problem if there is hundreads of bloodfeast, or if outis is faster than gregor, but it still sucks that you cant get rodya to drink it. 3 - her bloodfeast consuming sucks. Not only she can miss bloodfeast if shes unlucky (point 2), she also only consumes only 20 to 30 of it. So, for 50% damage bonus on skill 4 she needs 250 bloodfeast. With best rotation, it takes 12 turns to get that. Unless we get at least 20-30 turns battles, its not gonna max out. Festive fever buff also depends on bloodfeast consumed, but its even worse lol (350 and 250 for skill 3 and skill 4 respectively). I find it hard to judge ids now, as their average performance goes to the middle of their conditionals. 4 - i dont if im stupid or what, but it feels like rodyas counter works not how i expected it. It just doens work, in fact. Maybe its some sort of bug, but i cant lower bleed count on my team. 5 - rodyas skill 2 power ups do apply to outis actually and not to kromer (at least it should), since it has a line that says "prioritizes bloodfiends" Gosh that was long. I guess thats my preparation for exam essays huh. Open for discussions, if you guys want to point out anything
And forgot to add, i personally think that she is above average for that is how insane her buffs and skill 2 is. Its just those problems i mentioned that drag her in 3rd place inside the bleed team
For that fourth point, it's either you're experiencing a bug or you're not paying attention to the count. It works on my end for the most part during a run where I got too trigger happy with Priest Gregor's skills and the only reason why he didn't bleed himself to death was because Rodion started sucking him off (ayo-) of bleed.
Update: tested it, her Skill 2 does not need bloodfeast for attack power. Even on turn 1, it will give 2 power to herself and an ally bloodfiend. So her Skill 2 is actually a 6-18 skill that buffs an ally no matter what.
Get walpurgisnacht id's, use shards to get rodion, at least thats how i would do it, you have time spend on her (tho definitely get sanguine desire first either from getting lucky on the walpurgisnacht banner or sharding it, you have a good amount of time to get rodion)
i couldn’t resist the gambling and spent my extraction tickets for 40 ish pulls and i didn’t get the id of rodion, but I did get telepole don ego, twinhook greg and cavernous wailing honglu ego, so i’m still pretty happy
honestly this rodion id has great potential to be great generalist. generally good buffs even if they arent a bloodfeind and healing utility/ clash while fuelling her hexnail well. team would probably need preist gregor but the rest can go unga bunga.
No bad side for this vid? Cool. I have all 3 bloodfiends and I Alr have 400 shards for don. All 3 can solo a ritornello/hard mode mirror dungeon together VERY easily.
same but i use trio, N faust, N don and ring sang never once have issues with ego resources and bleed count because nails being nails this is in a boss fight btw. also it's so fun when mircalla is useable by turn 3 too
no it's priest gregor because he moans in his ex clear line
Season 5 got yall actin up
@@ultranumhere It is Lust season
Bleed is the status of lust after all.
rodion also moans when she gets staggered,,, what a contender
@@deityevoid the thing that splits the difference is that his 3rd chatter has gregor whipping himself and that's hot
She has two big personalities, literally
Real
yeah I like big umbrella and dresses that look like will trip you if you try to run
She's quite literally the glue that holds current bleed. I was shocked how much better my team was when I slotted her in.
What did you take out? Painter Outis?
@@arikaelseptimo1876 100%. Or swap painter outis with barber when possible.
@@potatopizzaroll8406 I was already planning on taking out Outis for Ringsang
I KNEW MY RODION WOULD BE THE SAVIOUR OF BLEED!
welcome back mirinae from hana association (seriously though that s2 is the second best one in the entire game)
It's so insanely strong I love it
@@ultranumhere it's the fact u can have two slots and every time you use it outis and rodya will have plus 4 power up...
it's honestly crazy to see just how powerful the new bleed team is with the bloodfiends. AND we're yet to see Don Quixote's season 5 ID, which has a 99% chance of being absolutely busted. I wouldn't be surprised if bloodfiends beat blade lineage at being completely broken
do we know if it's going to look like the Yearning-Mircalla EGO? because if that's so...
@BMallow I don't think so, since that never really was the case before. People are predicting that it'll be a Sancho ID
(Devs are too afraid to make Don Quixote this hot as she was in the EGO)
@@stormcloaksoldier3513SHE KEEPS THE LONG HAIR IN THE NEW SANCHO ID
Hi im new! Who would be good for me to get for her?
Finally, someone to rival Ahab in giving buffs.
Assist attack.
ahab wins in sheer damage thanks to assist attack but she wins in utility thanks to those JUICY attack power ups
At least Royda doesn't have that stupid Sanity mechanic
@@ViktorSachi True
Imagine saying that to her face though...
She might gaslight you into believing that its your fault 😅
@@ViktorSachiif you were a better player then gaslightmael’s sanity mechanics wouldn’t even be an issue here sanity would even be easy to manage since she can regain almost all of her sanity in one kill if you play it right, THEREFORE THE FAULT LIES WITH YOU VIKTOR, ALL OF IT. *cough*
The community calls her a little below mid and bad constantly.
I finally heard someone who has a good opinion in this god forsaken community 🔥
Wait wtf who says that, she's so good objectively
@@ultranumhere I see some people say that in the Project Moon community discord server
@@ultranumheresomeone said that bleed mains unironically run Kurokumo Rodion over dulcinea
@@knightly4490that’s so stupid considering kurokumo rodya’s skill are ass apart from skill 3 lol
This community is so insufferable, you’re probably better off ignoring everything they say. She’s pretty good, and she works amazingly well with Priest Gregor if you have him!
I wanna be her princ- *Cough cough* I mean huh? All jokes aside. While I don’t think she’s designed nearly as well as Priest Greg, and I’m a little disappointed that she buffs him so substantially that my previous takes on the fact that you can’t just brain off win rate spam with him are now obsolete; I still love this ID. She’s got such great and interesting effects and mechanics, and no real flaws. She brings such an intriguing and fun to mess with dynamic to bleed teams. And I don’t joke around when I say that doing a trio run with the three bloodfiends is the most fun I’ve had in this game in a long time. However, all that being said, glory to my GOAT Priest Gregor
Actually, I agree. I don't enjoy Gregor being superhealed by Rodya because his intended gameplay loop gets too streamlined. Doesn't make him any weaker, but a bit less fun.
@ultranumhere Exactly! Glad to see someone who agrees. She really takes a lot away from his gameplay design by making his self blood just no longer a real issue. Kind of a shame, he’s still pretty fun though.
6:55 No it won't. You missed the line [Prioritizes Bloodfiends] on those effects: They will ALWAYS select a Bloodfiend ally when possible with their effects, even if a non-Bloodfiend has higher or lower Max HP. Check YOUR OWN FOOTAGE at 12:25 to see that Barber got the +Attack Power despite N Faust also being on the team.
Just checked, real.
For anyone here that feels bad for not having Sanguine Desire: It does not work on most of her infliction since its main source comes from Blooming Thorn.However,her Hex Nail E.G.O in the Limbus Pass seems to work for bleed infliction.
Well the main thing from sanguine is it count null so it still very much desired
@@dis_panda5010 You nailed that pun so good, I felt hexed by it
@@CheezecakeLordlooked like he nailed the joke then
lobotomy ryoshu was a test. a test to see of 'charge at home' was going to work. unfortunately for us, it did, and now every new ID has it.
Ultra here to save me from actually having to read an ID’s kit to understand what’s going on 🙏 praise be
i really like that her rupture aligns with Point sang's s2 to help with the conditional, other than that she could be straight A.S.S that it wouldnt matter but WE HAVE A SANGUINE DESIRE USER WOOOOOHOOO, not only that a strong one, BLEED IS S A V E D
I feel as if hex nail was specifically made for dulcineon
Ive been defending her in the discord severs Ive been a 1 man army against so many people and finally I saw light in your video, I am finally not alone finding her very good, she has AOE, she has insane support value, she gives dmg bonus to everyone she has the best bleed ego in the game and she perfectly fuels it, she has pretty gud not too shady but pretty good count aplication, she has healing to her mates, she can suck Gregor as a gameplay mechanic (not outside of context) and even has potency shenenigans with bleeding talisman! also the audio is perfect this time in ur vid ;)
Barber outis believers after finally getting the synergy they needed ✊✊
Remember: spending ~200 threadshard crates gets you ~400 ego shards.
I would personally preffer to run hook lu in the last slot over nfaust because even though rodion fuels sanguine desire rather well shes missing the one wrath which is also how much wrath is in the bleed team.
So hook lu not only fixes the wrath problem but also has more potency application in his kit than nfaust as well as whistles or ig whispers being able to activate from bench. Sure you lose out on gaze but in game modes where you either dont have resources or start at low sanity (3 res vs 4 and hook lu has same amount of lust as nfaust) id run hook lu on top of his better clashing
Barbertis has wrath on s3 tho
@Talisman_Sinclair exactly sanguine desire needs one wrath which is exactly how much wrath is in the bleed team in this vid so that's one sanguine desire every 6 turns
@@noishfanboy1141 I may be wrong about this but from what i heard when we use a ego we also get the sin resource the ego is and since desire is wrath we get 1 wrath resource meaning that outis only needs to use it once?
I may be wrong about this though, never tested it
@Talisman_Sinclair this is correct but what I'm saying is that since you only have one wrath skill and it's a s3 no less you'd have to wait until your s3 showed up to get the wrath needed.
And barber outis s3 is a big nuke skill that you prob want to use either alongside or after sanguine desire to capitalize on all the bleed on the enemy for the conditionals
@@noishfanboy1141Superbia jumpscare
As a new player im excited for grabbing Sanguine Desire ASAP
Same! I actually saved up shards to get princess, but wound up getting her after twenty pulls so those are now going to sanguine desire
When I seen her, I was thinking to tell my friend (verhly new to the game) to roll her and just as I was thinking that I get a message going like "LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and he got her with 1 ticket
Meanwhile another streamer taking 300$ worth of donations to get dulcinea rodion
Beginners luck pov:
Finally someone with a functional brain talking about this id. I can't understand how so many people are failing to understand how good she is because mostly all I see "she doesn't have stupidly high bleed count" as if bleed count is a problem. Bleed has been my main team for close to a year and I can't remeber how long it's been since I struggled with count or had to use sanguine desire to build/manage count cause with a good team it's really not that hard to do
Its also nice shes just overall a very versatile unit can join the full pequod team for pride res bleed shananigans or a full envy res team
Hey man, i love your videos, just letting you know that you're so helpful for new players like me, thx a lot
Finally i was waiting this guide since Thursday for mommy Rodion
I'm going to make the bold claim that N Faust can be relegated to support passive now. Festive Fever is just AoE Gaze pretty much, passive SP recovery is covered by Priest Greg (and, well, benched N Faust herself), losing Fluid Sac access is not a big deal thanks to Rodya's Hex Nail (which, by the way, is also more damage support from the passive) and with Sanguine Desire being a real ego now the good Count infliction from Nails is not as important. You do lose a bit on unique debuffs for RingSang, but you'll still likely have a lot of Bleed and Rupture, as well as Sewing Target plus whatever random bullshit RingSang throws out. So now we can finally replace an ID with 2 good skills and 4 shit ones for an actually competent ID (who coincidentally also has the same affinities). And as we get more Bloodfiends she's just gonna become even better, as her passive relies on Bloodfiends to give her Blooming Thorn quickly.
So the current best Bleed team is gonna be the three Bloodfiends, RingSang, Spider Ryoshu, and RSault (really only here because Mircalla is actually broken tbh)
Yes, you're right. That's the progression I'm seeing as well. Though Don is gonna probably be there over meursault once she gets her ID. Meursault is pretty much a stop-gap solution for now ig
Also she can constantly apply bind with clam ego passive to contribute with ringsang
Have thee forgotten fluid sac?
@@Whurry Fluid Sac can be worked around. Rodya's Hex Nail (or in a desperation evene Gregor's Garden of Thorns) can be used for healing, not to mention the Bloodfiends can all heal themselves, and SP can be handled bu Faust's support passive and Greg's passive, or in an emergency even Greg's Bygone Days (though I prefer Lantern in the Teth slot)
Rodya's 2 will never hit NFaust as long as either Gregor or Outis are on the field. You can live the Lust Res dream, trust.
You know an id is good when you struggle to keep an enemy alive to see her 4th skill (the only time I managed to make it happen she only got through the first 2 coins)
It’s funny to see that outis’ self bleed is actually being useful now.
Festive Fever does not boost any of the bloodfiend nukes to 30%, only 15%. The boost only doubles when the skill consumes bloodfeast, and unless the special status effects (scissors, hand, thorns) count as bloodfeast somehow, it will only apply the weaker boost.
14:25 caught me so much off gaurd
Those two personalities are bigger than what it was based on 🤑
I wonder if the Sancho id will have a mask
Imagine it's Don's base ID turning into Sancho with effect stacks
@@ultranumhere it probably wouldn't look like base Don because the Sancho we will be getting never left la mancha land
Now i can finally stop coping about pulling for barber outis.
my favourite type of support, supporting the team by killing the enemies 👍
I got her and the barber... The game gives me gifts... I started like week ago... Came through factorio... The conveyor belts reach far and wide... Also Faust wanted to join my roster too.
Can't stop the stream.
Because of this trio of vampires, I am now torn between r Corp. Mersault and Hook Hong Lu. Mersault gives a lot of Bleed count and has a very beautiful and strong ego for bleed, but Hong Lu has wrath at s1 what allows you to use a spiral of contempt. I like it and dislike it very much at the same time. It's so cool that we have so many incredible options and it's so sad that we can't poot them all into one ultimate command (thats good for team building but still sad). Also kinda sad that all Kurokumo IDs was power kreeped, only KK Ryoshu is +- good alternative for REP Ryoshu.
I recommend to you use a Chef Ryoshu instead of her two alternatives , first - good lust defense, second - first S1 is red , S2 is purple and S3 is lust - literally for Contempt awe you need only pride , but with Rodya's S1 and Gregor's S2, that is pride - you don't have a lot of problems with that. The only problem is her bleed application, but really - Contempt awe is Contempt awe after all
I find hed damage to be lesser than the other bloodfiends but that support is unreal
her existence makes priest greg feel usable
the moment i read that skill 1 ceiling i knew we were in for a good id 🙏
People being pepega forgetting about her second skill giving bloodfiends 4 final power is fucking insane she litteraly can roll 26 on her second skill and it’s a dam envy skill lmao, she definetly lives up to second kindred status lol, also fun fact her skill 3 consumes thorns only after the combat end so technically u can use the finale multiple times, I don’t know if it was a glitch or not but that happened to me
That sounds like a glitch because it should be after the attack finish
@ I’ll check
@ ok checked it was a glitch
@@federicofilippini6780yo lunacy
Can anyone explain how much Blooming Thorn Rodion gains from skills? I just don't quite understand the part ( 2 times per turn). For example 1st skill: Apply 1 Blooming Thorn(BT) for 10 Bloodfeast (2 times per turn). Does this mean that she can only get 20 BT with this skill per turn even when there is another same skill on dashboard or does this mean she can get up to 40 BT and 2 times per turn means that only 2 1st skills on dashboard can get BT?
Rodion's S2 will always hit barb Outis if she is on the team because it prefers bloodfiends, this takes precedence over lowest max hp.
Finally someone who recognizes that she isnt bad
Just started playing Limbus Company yesterday and I accidentally pull her on my first 10 pull. Sadge I still don't have bleed team
is it worth the 800 shards do you think to get Barber Outis and Sanguine Desire? or do i stick with my current team comp: REP Ryoshu, Ringsang, Grippy Faust, Princess Rodion, Priest Gregor, Ring Outis
not too sure about barber outis but yeah get sanguine desire it’s really strong
@@Lyingho that i was already planning on fs lol
@@clswtz new seasonal don id will be interacting with the vampires(buffing/changing his skills?something like that according to KJH and maybe give them buffs too)so its better to shard barber too
4:19 how do i extend the duration of rodia 3rd s?
By having 25 blood thorns above, duration is not affected by coin power, rather than the blood thorns accumulation either using base variant or stronger variant
Now that all the seasonal IDs (except for boss ID) are out, how does barber outis hold up?
I'm just got into the game a few days ago and got princess rodion so I don't know much but does she work well with middle Don and middle meursault? All I read was bleed and I was like yep imma put them together
Her thorns should have been like Dulcinea which also gives bleed count everytime she or her teammate gets hit
Count would've been too strong combined with Gregor, so PM decided to give the effect Bleed potency infliction. Still kinda useful, I guess
Last time I played bleed was the launch, because got kuro ruyoshu early, guess its about time.
I wouldn't care if she was completely unusable. She has two massive reasons to bring her no matter what
Thr strongest bloodfiend so far. La creatura se acerca.
Honestly quite incredible ID
Kinda worried about the lack of Wrath in bleed. I know you just need ONE for Sanguine Desire but the only source on most bleed teams is going to be Barber Outis skill 3. This is of course assuming you run the "standard" team of the Bloodfiend trio, Ring Sang, Red Eyes Ryoshu, and N Corp Faust.
Perhaps Faust should be dropped for Hook Lu for the wrath gen?
Superbia is also a thing, though. It may be better to use that ability on Contempt, Awe however, because its passive will allow the team to generate more wrath reliably.
@@oatmeal3919 and the problem with Superbia or any of Dante's power is the once per IRL crap. Should be Once per Luxcavation, once per mirror dungeon (or even once per floor?) once per railway or maybe once per rest stop in railway and so one.. let us actually use the powers.
strongest ID is gonna be sancho obviously but yes shes gonna be the 2nd strongest bloodfiend
with both the other bloodfiends (so far) on a bleed team, would you say barber outis is better than ring outis even without sanguine desire? you brought it up at the end of the video but I was wondering if ring outis would still work better on a SD-less team (at least until next walpurgis rolls around)
Without SD, it's more of a toss-up and probably depends on the enemy's resistances. Deffo better in multi-enemy encounters tho
@@ultranumhere i getcha. As a side note, I hope they release a meursault bloodfiend, just so we can use his version of yearning-mircalla
(i think rhino meursault looks stupid)
d e f i n i t e l y, the damage doesnt lie its insane, ring is better for the status but barber beats it on everything else imo
@@almightyfallen7154you’re not alone on that i refuse to use rhino meursault because i hate how he looks
"gonna hit faust"
whatever go my lvl 45 ring sang lvl 50 nfaust lvl 49 ring outis
I'm 90% sure rodion's s2 attack power up always prioritizes bloodfiends so it won't actually hit NFaust, it will only juggle between barber outis and gregor (if he bleeds himself enough)
Idiot alert: It's me again, I noticed that someone else already brought this point up and was responded to, my bad.
canNOT watch this video without getting distracted by her big naturals
So… what’s the best bleed team now? Who do we bench
Yeah, no, she's nutty. I do think, however, that only giving her one slot is a mistake. Her thorn generation is...subpar. That, and you can never have enough healing from her really awesome passive.
What are the 5op 5 generalist ids in the gane?
Ring Yi sang
Dieci Rodion
W corp Don
W corp Ryoshu
Grip Sinclair
Ring Yi Sang (Uptie 4)
Zwei Ishmael (Uptie 4)
W Corp Don
Wild Hunt Heathcliff
Grip Sinclair
Would you say that with the release of princess rodian barber outis is better than ring for bleed?
Yeah, mostly due to Sanguine Desire being available, and Festive Fever's double efficiency on Bloodfiends
She has 2 big reasons why i pulled her.
Ah yes, i cant wait for the future Support ids to give 16 up attack power 🙏
Correction:her skill 2 prioritizes blood fiends not the lowest max hp meaning it will always target outis and Gregor before anyone else in a bleed team
should i spin for her or save for wulpurguis (idk how to spell it)
definitely save for walpurgis since it should be soon, and also since dulcidia will be a permanent identity (and only being limited in the next season) you can always shard her instead after grinding md alot, meanwhile walpurg ids/egos r only available every 3 or so month i believe (whenever the walpurgis event happends)
I think that Dulcinea rodion with the blood fiend trio, sancho ID could kill the need for ring sang on field. My ideal team in the future would be Rodion and the blood fiends, red eyes ryoshu, r corp meursault and the future sancho ID Our CEO learned how to beat his greatest enemy
rhino meursault does not belong there im sorry yi sang’s damage is irreplaceable
@@chucklenutts yearning carmilla is just too good to pass out, synergy over damage
I'll go ahead and toss the spoiler in the read more for people. Speculating on Don's ID.
I'm actually wondering if Don is going to be the real Don or Sancho. I feel like Sancho is more likely, but it'd be weird if we didn't get an ID of the boss ID. I'm not even sure who would fit as the real Don if we get Sancho Don, though Meursault DID get a yearning mircala...
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we actually got a preview on what the new don id could be from dulcidion's uptie story, we are getting a sancho that betrayed dad quixote
new meursault id seems extremely unlikely considering he already got a 3 star for this season, which is really unfortunate because i would prefer he got a bloodfiend id to match yearning mircalla. rhino is just lame to me honestly
@@benny_tucker true, charge ids to me aren't that fun to play with (though his bleed count application is crazy)
Mirrors reflect the worst version of yourself, dons I'd is sancho for that reason, for don to get a don boss I'd, shewould have needed to be a first kindred instead of second
This isn't the first time we didn't get a final boss I'd, with the other one being farmwatch
I pulled on yisang bullet but got her instead
Honestly im glad cause i dont have any good rodya id
can't wait for sancho to release, and then break the meta.
She's going to sugarcoat it.
is she good in a no bleed team? like, good generally?
Doesn't provide much, she's a blood specialist unit and all her buffs prioritise bleed
amazing chest ahead
but can she beat an antediluvian
Gladly i got
Shes really good Support Also damager
I wonder how strong a bloodfiend team will be once we get mirror world Don Quixote/Sancho...
I haven't sharded them yet so thanks for the guide!
Probably will be the meta Bleed team (with RingSang and REP Ryoshu)
Waiting for Yi Sangcho
So many people get wrong expectation of her. Half says that she's good, half says she's mid. Even i definetly dont know a lot about her. However, i want to point out some things that will make me or you, more knowledgable.
1 - 16 is really not a high roll for skill 2, its today standart. What makes it so good is that conditionals are really easy - 30 bloodfeast for 2! (since she applies 1 to anyone and 2 for bloodfiends) power ups is great. The bleed conditionals are harder, but still reachable
2 - this problem was stolen from moomoo. Since rodya consumes bloodfeast at combat start, the bloodfeast will go in a loop: rodya consumes 0 bloodfeast (cause first turn), gregor made some bloodfeast and outis eats it all. Next turn - 0 bloodfeast in the bank, 0 bloodfeast for rodya. That is less of a problem if there is hundreads of bloodfeast, or if outis is faster than gregor, but it still sucks that you cant get rodya to drink it.
3 - her bloodfeast consuming sucks. Not only she can miss bloodfeast if shes unlucky (point 2), she also only consumes only 20 to 30 of it. So, for 50% damage bonus on skill 4 she needs 250 bloodfeast. With best rotation, it takes 12 turns to get that. Unless we get at least 20-30 turns battles, its not gonna max out. Festive fever buff also depends on bloodfeast consumed, but its even worse lol (350 and 250 for skill 3 and skill 4 respectively). I find it hard to judge ids now, as their average performance goes to the middle of their conditionals.
4 - i dont if im stupid or what, but it feels like rodyas counter works not how i expected it. It just doens work, in fact. Maybe its some sort of bug, but i cant lower bleed count on my team.
5 - rodyas skill 2 power ups do apply to outis actually and not to kromer (at least it should), since it has a line that says "prioritizes bloodfiends"
Gosh that was long. I guess thats my preparation for exam essays huh. Open for discussions, if you guys want to point out anything
And forgot to add, i personally think that she is above average for that is how insane her buffs and skill 2 is. Its just those problems i mentioned that drag her in 3rd place inside the bleed team
For that fourth point, it's either you're experiencing a bug or you're not paying attention to the count. It works on my end for the most part during a run where I got too trigger happy with Priest Gregor's skills and the only reason why he didn't bleed himself to death was because Rodion started sucking him off (ayo-) of bleed.
I think Skill 2 does not need to consume bloodfeast to apply attack power up, it always does that no matter what. At least as far as I can tell.
@@oatmeal3919 It always does.As someone with who uses i can say that its damn good.
Update: tested it, her Skill 2 does not need bloodfeast for attack power. Even on turn 1, it will give 2 power to herself and an ally bloodfiend. So her Skill 2 is actually a 6-18 skill that buffs an ally no matter what.
walpurguis or rodion? The decision is hard,
Get walpurgisnacht id's, use shards to get rodion, at least thats how i would do it, you have time spend on her (tho definitely get sanguine desire first either from getting lucky on the walpurgisnacht banner or sharding it, you have a good amount of time to get rodion)
i couldn’t resist the gambling and spent my extraction tickets for 40 ish pulls and i didn’t get the id of rodion, but I did get telepole don ego, twinhook greg and cavernous wailing honglu ego, so i’m still pretty happy
Just use shards. You have the entirety of season 5 to save up 400 shards for her!
@ bit late for that
honestly this rodion id has great potential to be great generalist. generally good buffs even if they arent a bloodfeind and healing utility/ clash while fuelling her hexnail well. team would probably need preist gregor but the rest can go unga bunga.
Best identity YET-
No bad side for this vid? Cool. I have all 3 bloodfiends and I Alr have 400 shards for don. All 3 can solo a ritornello/hard mode mirror dungeon together VERY easily.
Cant wait for the title to immediately be invalidated once the Sancho id comes around
The best Identity... so far
balkanian accent real
Bleed team buff care not
Big chest good
Holly Molly!
Finally, barber outis isn't mid anymore
Using the uptie 1 art I see...
She looks pretty
She does
Okay I love her, but I don’t know about “best season 5”
We are literally not even a third of the way in (probably)
shes the “best” current season 5 identity
Still need to bring ring outis to have more consistent wrath generation for sanguine desire
Ehh idk
I Just use The three bloodfiend gang with Hook Hong lu, r corp meursalt and ring sang, Works well enough.
same but i use trio, N faust, N don and ring sang never once have issues with ego resources and bleed count because nails being nails this is in a boss fight btw. also it's so fun when mircalla is useable by turn 3 too
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She was not the best bloodfiend ID
lol yeah, this clickbait is now retiring
she is not all that 😭 just rodion fans being rodion fans
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@ hell yeah i just want to hate on rodion