@@AllureA8-c3lthere are far greedier gacha games, and she’s not weak outside of the bloodfiend team by any means. also, i don’t get why it’s such a big deal that a bloodfiend ID only reaches full power with a bloodfiend team… it’s a team building game lol also the 3 damage up passive is a bonus that adds to the theme of the character more than anything. if you wanna try to lower her health to reach the damage up, then go right ahead. however, her damage outside of that is MORE than fine.
@@AllureA8-c3lWhat are you actually talking about? All of her base skills build Hardblood. She just gains more if the other Bloodfiends are present. Also you ignored like half of her passive? Hello? Generating Bloodfeast on kill?
@@AllureA8-c3l your words: "Finally pmoon becomes a greedy gacha." 😂😂😂😂 her skills without other bloodfiends aren't weak. she still has a 3 attack weight skill 2, and she keeps her enhanced skill 3. of course her base skill 1 is not nearly as strong as enhanced skill 1. it's a skill 1 and that makes sense for design. your obsession with minmaxxing her damage is causing you to ignore that she already does good damage to begin with. if you're so obsessed with squeezing every ounce of potential out of her, then just grind for the bloodfiend team and stop complaining... limbus is designed to minimize the necessity of gacha mechanics. you have an entire season to grind for the characters you need. crying about sensible game design choices because they don't hand you everything you want on a silver platter is firstly pathetic, and secondly unhelpful to everyone, including you
@@AllureA8-c3l I don't get why people say she is required to have the entire bloodfiend team to be strong as she only need aleast one bloodfiend. Even without bloodfiends her at max ramp up skill 1 is 3-15 with 24 dmg, s2 2-20 with 52 dmg and can hit 3 targets, and everyone nows how strong both s3 and s3-2 is. It also not that hard to get around 30 hardblood since her skill 1 only require 50 bloodfeast to get 10 hardblood which in a proper bleed team very easy to do. Just by her self with no Bloodfiends and just the regular bleed teams she can easier get up to 30 hardblood for her frankly overturned s3-2 that deals 255 dmg. I have been just running her with just princess rodya( sometime gregor too) and the sterotypical bleed team(ring duo, N faust, R Muer) and in term of dmg she is always either second or first to ring sang in terms of dmg( they were pretty close). She pretty much works like a charge unit skill 1 and skill 2 are there build to the s3. Set up s3 for big damage using rodya finale and n faust gaze watch the dmg numbers fly. I have been testing her in rr4 and thread luxs. The one crictism I do have for her is that I actual have the opposite sentiment when it comes to her design with other bloodfiends. Instead of her becoming stronger with a full bloodfiends she feels weaker mainly because of Barber outis and somewhat princess Rodya. Her empower s2 and counter consume too much hardblood for there effects. Her s2 consume 10-20 hardbood just get a slighly stronger s2 with worse clashing ( normal s2 52 dmg, enchance 61 dmg) and her counter gives more shimmering for half her harblood amount. It doesn't help that baber outis doesn't provide of that much impact to the team so you better off benching for ring outis or hook hong lu(she also blood hungry meaning more competing with don then helping). Shimmering feels useless since not only do need a high bloodfeat amount to reach max stacks of it but if you don't get hit then the majority of its effects is useless maybe is suppose to be for unbreakable coins but as of now I barely use it. Aleast princess rodya bring a major impact to the team and since the enchance skill is a counter I can choose not to use it unlike barber. The enhance skill 1 feels like an actual enhance skill in comparison. It deals way more dmg then the normal ( normal 24 dmg, enchance 42 dmg), has way better clashing, inflict up to 8 bleed potency( 12 if you use kk ryoshu and kk honglu support passive), inflict herself with 20 bleed and activates bleed( wish there were more of that in her kit). Yeah, it absorbes 10 hard blood but all it takes is a normal s1 to get that hardblood back which is easy to do thanks to priest giving out 20 blood every turn and her activate bleeding for a minimum of 48 bloodfeast for a turn ( can be higher then that depending on the enemy bleed pot). If you don't run barber (which honseslty you probably shouldn't) her s2 is free to absorb bloodfeast meaning you can easily have around 20-30 hardblood especially since her passive makes it so she aleast get 2 hardblood everyturn. Priest gregor is also very good support for bloodfiend archetype and doesn't ruin the bleed stack so he going be in the team anyway. This sort of makes her feel like a charge unit that uses bleed to build up charge then the manager of la manchaland using the weapons of her family to deal big dmg with every skill and have crazy effects. On one hand this means you don't need over 400 boxes to make her work on the other hand it sort of disappointing that you are better off leaving some bloodfiend members for her to be better than when she has the whole family. To fix this issue I rather have enchance s2 consume 5-10 hardblood, be a 4-16 at base and go up to 4-22 , and the 2 last coins get the dmg mupltier effects instead of just one. Have her normal s2 also gives out 10 hardbllod instead of 5. Then have her counter consume 10 hardblood and reduce amount of bloodfeast needed to get max shimmering stacks. TLDR: She is a charge unit that uses bleed rather the roland of bloodfiends. Her only enhance skills that matter is enhance s1 and s3.You better off using her with just Princess Rodya, the Ring duo, and sometimes priest gegor then using the entire bloodfiend fam. Why, those her enchance s2 and counter suck so much and why can't I just spam them.
@hx5525 you do need barb Outis for S2-1, but base S2 already has AOE for every 10 hardblood ( max 2 ) just like S2-1. The difference is S2-1 has 2 base ATK Weight ( 4 ATK Weight if you have 20 Hardblood ) 1 more ATK Weight than base S2 & 1 more coin ( Unbreakable ) but rolls 1 lower ( at max conditional's ) But what makes S2-1 worse imo, is that she consume's 10 hardblood for every extra ATK Weight she gets, while base S2 still get extra ATK Weight but doesn't consume hardblood, so u can save some hardblood for S1-1 ( a 13-19 rolling 3 coin skill 1 ) or S3-1 ( a 25-36 rolling 4 Unbreakable coin skill 3, with lots of damage modifiers )
Barber outis pulling the greatest comeback of the century by getting a bloodfeast generator, a sanguine desire user and a team carry who benefits from having her all in a row to make up for every single issue she has
@Amirrorofmirrors don't matter when everything dies to potency in a few turns anyways and if you really need high bleed stack you can just use sanguine desire now
@noishfanboy1141 except you really need count to get some good bloodfeast going. Gregor can only do so much on his own. Yeah you could abuse sanguine desire, but only in mirror dungeons where you have enough ego resources to do so. Only in the one game mode where count isn’t an issue.
I still find it great that Bleed just has so many options to put in a team and they're all viable. While Don, Rodya, Greg and RingSang are all no brainers, the other two are quite flexible which can help newer players to build a proper status team, or can help veterans adjust the team depending on which Sin/DMG type they need more, or on the enemy layout. You definetly want either Ring or Barber Outis in the team, and while Ring is better for pure Bleed damage, Barber has more personal dps as well as an AoE skill to help cleave through mobs/body parts. And for the last slot, you could use Rsault for a lot of count and amazing EGOs, but with a slow start and a terrible skill 1, or you can pick HookLu who gives less count, but more frequently and also a lot more potency, while being a 00 ID who is cheaper to build (sadly locked behind Walpurgis), or you can pick Red Eyes Ryoshu for some small supportive capabilities and big clashing/damage, or you can use NFaust for Nails, Gaze and Paralyze as well as Fluid Sac, or you can just choose to double slot Don and let her spam enhanced skills. And they're all good teams, unlike some other archetypes that basically force you to run a specific lineup to make it worth your effort
Ngl this is why Bleed is my favorite team. You can use the effect as both your main damage tool as well as a resource, and depending on your choice, the game changes in a lot of ways.
Any tips for who I should go for right off the bat? I’ve got manager don and I love her so I guess I’m a bleed player now. Thankfully I already have ringsang but unfortunately I only have default egos and lantern Sinclair
@Simon-ur7bi Dulcenia Rodion and Priest Gregor. I would go with NFaust or REP Ryoshu for 5th pick. 6th could be Ring Outis if you run REP, no need 6th if you double slot Don, or a non-bleed generalist character.
well, they arent necessarily no brainers. there is also bloise (it still works in md) which doesnt use any of the mentioned IDs. and envy bleed (kind of in a bad spot right now, but at least they didnt forget about it and it receives some support so i would expect it to make a comeback in the sweeper intervalo) which uses only la mancha rodion from the meta team.
@@eldritchcupcakes3195 you could get the priest and the princess, because after this season they will be locked. And ring sang is definitely a no brainer. Or saving crates for l corp ryoshu in the next walpugisnatch night.
@@Schiso13 Ultra and esgoo have different playstyles i feel like and also showcase IDs differently on their channels but esgoo usually talked about like one certain archetype in one video and even when hes talking about only one ID he also Verily will mention other Ids for powercreep or good to pair with or passives
Esgoo's more recent opinions have honestly just been pretty bad, focusing on the wrong things like status application while ignoring important information of other actually important things (example: His Manager Don pre-release kit review where he thought the ID was gonna be bad because, shocker, it had the kit of an average bloodfiend ID and not a status applier like Ring Yi Sang).
Saying she's bad at Bleed Count is a bit confusing. Spamming her counter applies more Count over a full skill rotation than Ring Outis not even counting for her empowered counter or skill 3. It's not optimal for damage but if you cant manage the stack without ring Outis, you dont need to be worrying about optimal damage
I mean, you lose all her strengths to get Bleed Count, so it's not exactly viable. Also the barber is pretty bad anyways, so Ring is always a safe choice (+ that thing about the attack weight still holds true)
@ultranumhere Also I find it funny how you completely just ignored most of the defense skill, you can litterly get a 50 hp shield across the entire team incase you lose the clash against the enemy's AOE skill or if it has unbreakables/unclashable. I was able to eat dulcinea's entire finale without taking a shred of damage which is just pure insanity, plus the free bloodfeast generation too..
Not to mention that to blood fiends bleed isnt "lets bleed out" but bleed is a resource like tremor/charge on self. As always PM trying to catch up to their flaw ideas with lateral options. Its interesting But i bet the coders HATE THIS.
2:07 if i remember correctly cap on heal is for on hit effect(so max 20hp heal from s1, 60 from es1, but i can't remember how it works with s2 attack weight, is it capped at 10 or works with every enemy separately)
@@AllureA8-c3l Its is an EGO that can carry the bleed count but the entire team isnt reliant on it because RhinoMeur with his Yearning EGO and RingSang exists to keep the consistent bleed count. Sanguine Desire is just OP for bleed team but the team isnt reliant on it
Got her in 23 pulls, instantly put her to tier 4 and lvl 50 with the resources i was saving (i'm f2p), all so my friends also got access to her amazing(overtuned) kit. Started getting hate mail from randos that added me as friend (i just accept all requests since i'm okay with sharing strong IDs) because of the 1 week they will have to wait to dispense her. Truly a gamer moment.
idk if i understood this wrong but while I was playing with don in actual game I noticed that her max hp heal on each hit doesnt apply only 1 once, if you have "let all blossom free" with 2-3 attack weight, you will be healing with each time each target is hit, a max of 30 hp per coin at 3 attack weight
as someone who doesnt care about limbus gameplay i do think she has some missed opportunities (unique clash loose conditionals on unbreakables, sewing target on enhanced s2, maybe some festive fever on counter) but as a floor of technological sciences gamer sometimes you just wanna see big funny damage numbers. and also shes handsome
She's so strong it's ridiculous. Even without the other blood fiends she still does decent damage. I'm excited to what seasonal ids they make in the future.
I did a run in railway with all bloodfiends, ring sang and spider ryushu, end result was 47 turns. In my opinion bleed is one of the strongest teams, with sinking being the only competition. People are too obsessed with count, realistically bloodfiends show themselves more effective than team which is focused on effect only. If boss has to much coins they can just go unopposed in the nuke turn and deal much more damage than other team, with multiple enemies just use natural multu target skills of bloodfiends or Don's Mircala, and if boss allows to stack bleed just use sanguine desire and be done with it. Honestly, should focus less on status and more on what ids can do
Considering how insane and game changing Wild Hunt Heathcliff and now this ID are I think it’s safe to assume end of season IDs are gonna be game-changers from now on.
They've always been that. Every "bad end" or whatever people call them ID is made to be a really powerful ID, often adding unique mechanics that change up the gameplay of meta teams. They're also built specifically to hard-counter thir own Canto.
Wait 5:13 Isn't the on kill conditional of La Sangre locked behind the 4th coin like Cing Sualt skill 3? Ring sang's Maestro will give is us 1mil bleed count
The sheer fact that Manager Don and Princess Rodya are the first IDs to contain 2+ attack weight skills that are innate is insane. That means they're the first two IDs to have non-gloom skills that aren't E.G.O that can trigger Grey Coat. Sure in Don's case you need Barber Outis as well but still it's crazy nonetheless.
I don’t know why I love hearing you yap so much about this kind of stuff, but I just really do. And thanks Project Moon for conceiving an IDea most ingenious.
There really isn't an issue with bleed count in bloodfiends, from what I've seen running all bloodfiends with ring sang and r mersualt is more than enough to keep up count, since your including the small amount of count from the bloodfiends and sanguine desire.
Right, but you're not running REP Ryoshu then. And I feel like Ryo is much more impactful than Outis most of the time (better damage, SP heals, more Bleed infliction) So giving her the slot over Meursault and changing Outis to Ring makes the team better against humans, and switching Outis for Ryo is better against bosses imo
She is great even outside of blead/bloodfiend team, this is because she just do ton of dmg instead of focus on keeping bleed around. Though I expected more from her since the boss form being able to inflict a lot of count and having that insane "bleed deluge" skill. But nevertheless, she is a crazy strong id.
Some Notes: First off, the lack of count is just not true. If you decide to *only* use her counter, she will inflict a minimum of 12 count on a 6 skill rotation. This is on par with ringsang's count infliction as well as Nfaust. 2nd: She consistently has ownership of kkpassives, so you want to always use both of those whenever possible. (RR speedruns can opt for chef ryoshu for her s3 + contempt) 3rd: You shoud run gregor level 1 uptie 1 if at all possible. He is best off "in the party" but quickly dead to let another unit like ahab take his spot.The enhanced S1 gving +12 pot *and* popping bleed once is quite nice, but gregor himself is quite mediocre. 4th: barber outis significantly nerfs don's hardblood economy and it is quite likely not running her is optimal for this reason. It additionally gives you ways to generate hardblood while at 15+. Ring outis is a viable replacement, but so is rcliff/ahab.
Indeed. On your mention of the bloodfiends not being suited for count, and barber outis, I'd appreciate if you could take a devil's advocate approach to seeing the damage differences between a team focused on max bleed stacks (traditional) and a bloodfiend team focused on using bleed to bloodfeast as a resource (as the current trio + don does).
Been using her for md and she’s been doing pretty well. I don’t have Gregor or outis yet (at least, not maxed out) so I’m just running her and dulci. Despite that, she’s doing some big numbers. Her skill 3 has hit over 1k damage 3 times now, and that’s only because every other time I’ve used it, the enemy died on the first or second coin. Her skill 2’s aoe allowed me to turn the railway 3 pack(the entire whale army) into a fucking joke. They were just food for her. Entire waves cleared in one turn almost single-handedly by her. Anyway, very solid unit. From what im seeing right now, I think wild hunt is stronger than her (most of her power comes from the bleed bias) but it’s pretty close. Shes very fun to use.
Wait, if rodya consumes bloodfeast on start, but don is “on use” effect, and don take precedence before rodya. Does that mean our princess is going to be starved?
Quality analysis, had to double check i was subscribed to not miss peak. Also, out of curiosity does the order of ID's slotted in matter much? Currentl;y running the 4 bloodfiends + Ringsang and Rhinosault.
You want to give the slot depending on what you want more of. 2 slots on R Meur give him faster setup and more count, but you greatly slow down your damage output, for example. Deploy your IDs depending on the importance of their role to the fight you're entering, and give priority to stronger IDs when multiple fill the same niche.
Imho, barber outis is kinda useless outside of damage dealer niche(0 bleed count in kit, no support for team) while 00 ring outis is greatly supports ring sang's s2, and can apply a ton of count(can't remember if she can apply more count than r corp rhino with all conditions), but with slightly weaker clashing, and, of course, lesser damage
Forgot about that barber's buff of don's s2 is so useless, like, oh +1 attack weight is cool, but what else? I don't think, that +10(+-5)% damage is enough to justify spending hardblood like s3(still better than rodya's buffed counter, but rodya is a good id, because it's just a damage dealer disguised as support)
My only complaint about her is the fact that while her self heal is incredibly strong (up to 90 hp on base s2), she can't inflict enough bleed on herself for it to matter. Which is kind of sad, since she is supposed to take care of the family, so a lot of self bleed would make sense. Oh, and I guess I wouldn't mind a bit more count. But still, a great video! (Also, her drip looks so good, I can't take my eyes off it.)
I’m a newer player so my Bleed team(my only team) is nothing too crazy My “bleed team” currently has Ring Yi Sang and Outis, N corp Sinclair(should’ve picked Faust I know, I didn’t expect Ring Yi Sang to spook me), Middle Little Sister Don, and freaking Wuthering Heights Faust💀(I have no other bleed ID so I chose the one that gives me Fluid Sac) My current targets are Princess Rodion, Red Eyes Ryoshu, and N corp Faust I only have lunacy for 4 ten pulls Should I pull for the Manager or prioritize other things like Walpurgis coming up probably right after this banner?
Just save for walpurgis brother you can shard don up until new season comes out while walpurgis will give you a bunch of exclusive stuff that only comes once in a while. Hope your having fun playing!
To me people dismiss a lot of the stuff going on with the bloodfiends and the bleed team I've been playing them since the launch of barber outis and honestly is way better than most think of, outis is a slow burner that becomes a kiling machine once the early set up is done giving stuff like potency damage and other utilities depending on the situation, gregor is a tank with a little bit of count then and there, he can tank a lot so you can let him get hit so you can get some free count hits in exchange of some hp, rodion buffs and has some ok count, her s3 is just good in general and can use hex nail and sanguine desire, the non blood fiend are good too, Rhinosault may be the worst but he isn't bad, I don't have regret but I still can get use of his skills, S1 may be bad but those charge conditionals give hime some cool stuff from the extra speed, his count is nice even without mircalla but with it in the right set up you can just get free count. So when it comes to Don honestly I think what she's got irs actually really good, she may not be brainless like wild hunt, but it doesn't matter because her tools make the slow build up so much rewarding once you get to use those powered up skills, even the normal ones have their use once you get enough count, even the powered counter is better than it seems as it gives you extra count and consumes way less hardblood than the other skills, pretty much mantaining your hardblood stable when you need it. Honestly the new bleed team has more to it than what most people asume, and I hope that more stuff like this gets added
honestly i feel like there isn't any huge problems with bleed count on the 4 bloodfiend team, gregor and rodya both have 2 count with their skill 2s so on bosses you can keep up the count pretty well, not to mention that ring yi sang has good count on his skill 2 as well. i think looking at the bloodfiends in a vacuum is a bad thing, and while barber outis is definitely not the best i'd say it's still worth running her for the empowered skill 2 given that you have other good count application units like ring yi sang or r corp meursault
oh dont forget the 2 count on greg s3, 1 count on rodya s3-1, 2 on s3-2, and 1 on counter! all things given, once you got count going above 5-6, you're pretty set to go as long as the boss isnt nelly or any high coin amount bosses. those aren't all that hard to do if you got lucky on ringsang s2 reuses, ringtis s2, and r meursault on the team all things considered.
yeah, but my question is would you rather give up REP Ryoshu or Barber Outis for R Meur. I don't think Outis is anywhere near Ryoshu's level, so I don't see her staying. And if she doesn't, might as well take ring over R Corp against humans (on bosses meursault still has his EGO tho)
not running barber will make you be able to stack more hardblood since all enhanced skill consume it, sacrificing 1 bloodfiend (barber) to maintain harblood by using an unenhanced skill is definitely better especially when ring outis has the count.
I honestly think don is better as a 2nd/3rd slot simply due to ring sang being an absolute monster and along with the fact that getting off a enhanced skill every turn is still really good, especially when you consider that don's enhanced skill 1 entirely pays for its bloodiest plus extra, while not taking away all hardblood, leaving usually 4~6 left. Also, ring outis > barber outis.
That's also an option. Though RIngsang needs to set himself up anyways, so there's not much difference between him getting a slot on turn 2 or 3. Also I'm glad the Outis propaganda holds strong
Bleed team with Bloodfiend is experiencing what bloodfiend felt on a daily basis of not having enough bleed to sustain themselves, even with Priest Gregor sacrifice himself.
fun fact Kurokumo Ryoshu support passive allows the fastest sinner to apply bleed count whenever they apply bleed (to an enemy so don't worry about Gregor)
I started the game and got her on the first pull alongside Nclair. But now I don't have the other three bloodfiend so i guess I need to farm for them ?
This might be heresy but I've been taking N Faust over Ring Sang in my comps and I'm really enjoying it. The lustres sanity recovery is nice early in the fight, access to Fluid Sac is nice in a pinch, but honestly the main thing is that Nails puts in more work for bleed count than I think people give it credit for. Hitting a skill 2 inflicts 5 of them, which is 7 count across 2 turns. I think between all the bloodfiends bleed teams already do a TON of damage to the point where Ring Sang feels kind of...unnecessary? At least to me. In MD Ring Sang is still kind of the clear pick because EGO gifts make count trivial, but I think outside of that Faust is a seriously underrated pick in spite of her weak clashing. That being said, if you've got the bloodfiends and two other IDs that provide any kind of count it's kinda hard to make a bad bleed team now. I think there's valid reasons to take any of Ring Sang, RSault, Hook Lu, or N Faust to resolve the count issue based on personal preference.
@ I do put her in the 6th slot, Manager Don is obvs first slot for maintaining passive like you mentioned in the video. I leave in Red Eyes Ryoshu as the other non-bloodfiend ID
This might disappoint you, but it's not 7 count over 2 turns. She applies 5 nails with her skill 2, which then are halfed at turn end to 2 nails. Then, at next turn start it applies 2 count. Then it's halfed to 1 nails. Then it applies 1 count, adding up to 3 count over 2 turns. Nails always half themselves at turn end, and most n corp ids apply nails same turn, not next turn, so any amount of nails you manage to apply is getting halfed and rounded down first before ever applying any count.
@ultranumhere oh a i think that yes bring ring otis is good since you all ready get 2 attack weight on skill 2 basis but i want to ask. For getting blood fest which skill is better skill 1 or the counter
@@MuchachonotoMuchachonoto if you mean getting the hardblood by consuming the bloodfeast, Skill 1 is the best one, as it gives 1 hardblood per 5 bloodfeast, while all the other skills give 1 per 10, which means it gives 10 bloodfeast while the others give only 5 (i think)
@@Eduardo-wx2qv i did do that before so I can save skill 2( i was using Barber otis) but now ring yi sang have given me his idea of using ring otisi so now i don't really have that much for sancho stack so counter is better right??
tbh at 1 slot bringing priest and/or barber is throwing, its better to save the hardblood for the crazy skill 3 or burn off some with empowered counter if the s3 isnt coming soon,
My concern is .... Why SLOTH S1 THOUGH? At least she can give more sloth to fuel Sunshower for RingSang. Maybe they rlly want us to corrode Sunshower for the pierce frag. Fr though, i'm rlly enjoying setting up Sunshower corrosion+ Outis Ya Sunyata corrosion. Inflicting lust frag+ pierce frag with some fragility (rng but still yeah) for the next turn full Lust resomance (which is easy af to do with that team). It's kinda crazy how the gang synergize so well (not to mention RingSang + MDon + Dulci Rodya are all pierce)
@ I still don’t think she’s better than his funny s2 and passive, but she’s incredibly strong, especially in a team with at least 2 bloodfiends. It’s even funnier that lots of people complain she’s weak without the bloodfiends. I mean like even without the hardblood, she still rolls above average, and she becomes stronger with her family around is lore-accurate. She is not a hobo who raided a mansion with a horse by himself.
Just my opinion on this, but i think the opportunity cost of barbtis is much better than you describe it. Imo the only place that ringtis performs consistently better is in single target bosses with one body part. Tbe extra hardblood generation of barbtis as well as the good aoe/multiple part damage on barbtis makes her better than ringtis in aoe scenarios, and on par with her for multiple part bosses, as well as universally better in md.
IMO split apart isn’t worthwhile, base form also has weight and doesn’t take hard blood, so you can use it them Sancho ascension arts la sangre de sancho
Every single status in the game is charge if you consider consuming resources in exchange for enhanced skills as charge's identity, but that isnt even true. Ever since w corp outis charge is all about potency which allows it to permanently ramp up an id's power to another level every time it increases. Times have changed.
@Memuer that is literally wrong, only poise works like a charge while the others are debuffs including bleed. If you're talking about newer IDs, then yeah most of them are "charge" Id (like coffin for WH and Trunk stacks for devyat)
@@HeseliqMikav Coffin is the closest but the way it's gained is still completely different compared to consuming a resource for permanent buff. Trunk isn't even permanent as it inevitably kills you. And no, I am not wrong. Almost every single id gains enhanced skills via coin/clash power from a status that is depleted. This is why so many people say "everything is literally just charge" which I don't agree with. If you don't think that everything is charge, then you're just not thinking like the people I was trying to disagree with with my reply. Like, obviously there are huge differences between skills but a lot of people call them all charge anyway.
@@Memuer again that is completely wrong. First of all, which status consumes a stored value? Only Poise and Charge because the rest are debuffs and personal charge like hard blood and coffin depends on the ID itself not the status, so "all status is somewhat of a charge" is factually wrong. "Newer IDs are just some form of charge unit" is the factually correct statement. Saying all status is basically charge because they "consume" something is like saying dmg up and fragile is the same thing because both of them makes you deal more damage.
its unfortunate that i have to kick barber outis out of my bleed team (at least outside of mds) to keep count up plus the fact that shes (by far) the hungriest for bloodfeast after sancho means that ironically kicking her out will allow other bloodfiends to ramp up even faster i guess i'll have to rely on ring sang/outis and nfaust (for easy reuse on the ring ids also the little count it brings and also for fluid sac) i wish we could have a single more slot open in the team just to see what it would bring to team building in this game
"low level" -> 84 man... I haven't ever miss a single week of mirror nor the dailies since day 1.... I'm level 86 84 is very respectable, the ones with 100+ levels are sick XD
I think all we need is a bleed french man id similar to Rhino that is mono Bleed Count to bring out bleeds full potential. I think using Rhino is not optimal because his Bleed Count conditionals are inconsistent, so a much more consistent version of him would be wonders. Not only that but we can also use his Yearnings Mircala ego
He is more consistent than Hook Lu if you manage his count at guaranteed 10 per cycle, which is not bad at all. He is fine as is, but better id is to be appreciated. His issue is that he has no potency without yearning(this ego carrrying his ass tbh) and clashes like ass as with meur ids without regret. Another problem is that he is competing with lob ryo in md and human battles (exp lux), which is 90% of contents. The only places where he can reasonably compete with her are thread lux and railway.
can we have a moment of peace to pay tribute to the poor souls who gambled all their walpurgis funds and came out with nothing... (i managed to get two of her in 12 pulls i'm so sorry)
@@ultranumhere personally just wasnt too interested in fullstop office and I have all over walp content anyway lol (except hook hong lu. I've done 400 total walp pulls over the months. no hook hong lu. I'm mad about it. 😭)
Haven’t fully started the video but I’ll say her empowered s2 isn’t worth it since you’re spending 20 hardblood for +1 attack weight compared to base with 20 hardblood.
Just something to note is that Barber isn't worth running as she not only cannot consume any Bloodfeast due to rodya and don, but also she actively nerfs Don's s2! The enhanced S2 trades 20(TWENTY) hardblood for 1 extra atk weight over unenhanced and an unbreakable coin, and on top of that rolls lower! For comparison unenhanced S2 rolls 16(20 with conditionals), has 2 coins, and 3 atk weight, and actually GENERATES hardblood, while the enhanced ver rolls 13(19 with conditionals), has 3 coins of which one is unbreakable and 4 atk weight at its peak while SPENDING 20 hardblood for it. Needless to say its quite the downgrade and it almost feels like an oversight from the dev team, and that's not even mentioning outis's inability to generate any bleed count compared to ring or her inability to consume bloodfeast which keeps her completely useless in a full fiend team
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What do you mean she is insane,,, she doesn't apply like 27 bleed count and fix my broken marriage, how can she be good,,,
It’s ok our goat Casetti Meursault will save bleed
@@AllureA8-c3lthere are far greedier gacha games, and she’s not weak outside of the bloodfiend team by any means. also, i don’t get why it’s such a big deal that a bloodfiend ID only reaches full power with a bloodfiend team… it’s a team building game lol
also the 3 damage up passive is a bonus that adds to the theme of the character more than anything. if you wanna try to lower her health to reach the damage up, then go right ahead. however, her damage outside of that is MORE than fine.
@@AllureA8-c3lWhat are you actually talking about? All of her base skills build Hardblood. She just gains more if the other Bloodfiends are present. Also you ignored like half of her passive? Hello? Generating Bloodfeast on kill?
@@AllureA8-c3l your words: "Finally pmoon becomes a greedy gacha." 😂😂😂😂
her skills without other bloodfiends aren't weak. she still has a 3 attack weight skill 2, and she keeps her enhanced skill 3. of course her base skill 1 is not nearly as strong as enhanced skill 1. it's a skill 1 and that makes sense for design. your obsession with minmaxxing her damage is causing you to ignore that she already does good damage to begin with. if you're so obsessed with squeezing every ounce of potential out of her, then just grind for the bloodfiend team and stop complaining... limbus is designed to minimize the necessity of gacha mechanics. you have an entire season to grind for the characters you need. crying about sensible game design choices because they don't hand you everything you want on a silver platter is firstly pathetic, and secondly unhelpful to everyone, including you
@@AllureA8-c3l I don't get why people say she is required to have the entire bloodfiend team to be strong as she only need aleast one bloodfiend. Even without bloodfiends her at max ramp up skill 1 is 3-15 with 24 dmg, s2 2-20 with 52 dmg and can hit 3 targets, and everyone nows how strong both s3 and s3-2 is. It also not that hard to get around 30 hardblood since her skill 1 only require 50 bloodfeast to get 10 hardblood which in a proper bleed team very easy to do. Just by her self with no Bloodfiends and just the regular bleed teams she can easier get up to 30 hardblood for her frankly overturned s3-2 that deals 255 dmg.
I have been just running her with just princess rodya( sometime gregor too) and the sterotypical bleed team(ring duo, N faust, R Muer) and in term of dmg she is always either second or first to ring sang in terms of dmg( they were pretty close). She pretty much works like a charge unit skill 1 and skill 2 are there build to the s3. Set up s3 for big damage using rodya finale and n faust gaze watch the dmg numbers fly. I have been testing her in rr4 and thread luxs.
The one crictism I do have for her is that I actual have the opposite sentiment when it comes to her design with other bloodfiends. Instead of her becoming stronger with a full bloodfiends she feels weaker mainly because of Barber outis and somewhat princess Rodya. Her empower s2 and counter consume too much hardblood for there effects. Her s2 consume 10-20 hardbood just get a slighly stronger s2 with worse clashing ( normal s2 52 dmg, enchance 61 dmg) and her counter gives more shimmering for half her harblood amount. It doesn't help that baber outis doesn't provide of that much impact to the team so you better off benching for ring outis or hook hong lu(she also blood hungry meaning more competing with don then helping). Shimmering feels useless since not only do need a high bloodfeat amount to reach max stacks of it but if you don't get hit then the majority of its effects is useless maybe is suppose to be for unbreakable coins but as of now I barely use it. Aleast princess rodya bring a major impact to the team and since the enchance skill is a counter I can choose not to use it unlike barber.
The enhance skill 1 feels like an actual enhance skill in comparison. It deals way more dmg then the normal ( normal 24 dmg, enchance 42 dmg), has way better clashing, inflict up to 8 bleed potency( 12 if you use kk ryoshu and kk honglu support passive), inflict herself with 20 bleed and activates bleed( wish there were more of that in her kit). Yeah, it absorbes 10 hard blood but all it takes is a normal s1 to get that hardblood back which is easy to do thanks to priest giving out 20 blood every turn and her activate bleeding for a minimum of 48 bloodfeast for a turn ( can be higher then that depending on the enemy bleed pot). If you don't run barber (which honseslty you probably shouldn't) her s2 is free to absorb bloodfeast meaning you can easily have around 20-30 hardblood especially since her passive makes it so she aleast get 2 hardblood everyturn. Priest gregor is also very good support for bloodfiend archetype and doesn't ruin the bleed stack so he going be in the team anyway.
This sort of makes her feel like a charge unit that uses bleed to build up charge then the manager of la manchaland using the weapons of her family to deal big dmg with every skill and have crazy effects. On one hand this means you don't need over 400 boxes to make her work on the other hand it sort of disappointing that you are better off leaving some bloodfiend members for her to be better than when she has the whole family.
To fix this issue I rather have enchance s2 consume 5-10 hardblood, be a 4-16 at base and go up to 4-22 , and the 2 last coins get the dmg mupltier effects instead of just one. Have her normal s2 also gives out 10 hardbllod instead of 5. Then have her counter consume 10 hardblood and reduce amount of bloodfeast needed to get max shimmering stacks.
TLDR: She is a charge unit that uses bleed rather the roland of bloodfiends. Her only enhance skills that matter is enhance s1 and s3.You better off using her with just Princess Rodya, the Ring duo, and sometimes priest gegor then using the entire bloodfiend fam. Why, those her enchance s2 and counter suck so much and why can't I just spam them.
Bleed Team finally got their version of Wildhunt.
Aoe skill 2 makes my dungeons go super fast.
10/10 ID.
@@judehanma it's so good for MD, and I love how the skill doesn't require the Barber on the team to actually hit multiple targets
so I can replace my barber outis to ring? @@ultranumhere
What? I thought Barber has to be a part of the 6 to give S2-1?
@@hx5525barber give her S2-1 but her S2 already have innate atk weight that tied to her current hardblood stage
@hx5525 you do need barb Outis for S2-1, but base S2 already has AOE for every 10 hardblood ( max 2 ) just like S2-1.
The difference is S2-1 has 2 base ATK Weight ( 4 ATK Weight if you have 20 Hardblood ) 1 more ATK Weight than base S2 & 1 more coin ( Unbreakable ) but rolls 1 lower ( at max conditional's )
But what makes S2-1 worse imo, is that she consume's 10 hardblood for every extra ATK Weight she gets, while base S2 still get extra ATK Weight but doesn't consume hardblood, so u can save some hardblood for S1-1 ( a 13-19 rolling 3 coin skill 1 ) or S3-1 ( a 25-36 rolling 4 Unbreakable coin skill 3, with lots of damage modifiers )
Barber outis pulling the greatest comeback of the century by getting a bloodfeast generator, a sanguine desire user and a team carry who benefits from having her all in a row to make up for every single issue she has
Still no count😭
@Amirrorofmirrors don't matter when everything dies to potency in a few turns anyways and if you really need high bleed stack you can just use sanguine desire now
@noishfanboy1141 except you really need count to get some good bloodfeast going. Gregor can only do so much on his own. Yeah you could abuse sanguine desire, but only in mirror dungeons where you have enough ego resources to do so. Only in the one game mode where count isn’t an issue.
@Amirrorofmirrors idk nfaust + ringsang good enough for my bleed count needs if you really need it
@@Amirrorofmirrors either learn to stack or superbia, both are good options
time for peak analysis.
😎
I still find it great that Bleed just has so many options to put in a team and they're all viable. While Don, Rodya, Greg and RingSang are all no brainers, the other two are quite flexible which can help newer players to build a proper status team, or can help veterans adjust the team depending on which Sin/DMG type they need more, or on the enemy layout. You definetly want either Ring or Barber Outis in the team, and while Ring is better for pure Bleed damage, Barber has more personal dps as well as an AoE skill to help cleave through mobs/body parts. And for the last slot, you could use Rsault for a lot of count and amazing EGOs, but with a slow start and a terrible skill 1, or you can pick HookLu who gives less count, but more frequently and also a lot more potency, while being a 00 ID who is cheaper to build (sadly locked behind Walpurgis), or you can pick Red Eyes Ryoshu for some small supportive capabilities and big clashing/damage, or you can use NFaust for Nails, Gaze and Paralyze as well as Fluid Sac, or you can just choose to double slot Don and let her spam enhanced skills. And they're all good teams, unlike some other archetypes that basically force you to run a specific lineup to make it worth your effort
Ngl this is why Bleed is my favorite team. You can use the effect as both your main damage tool as well as a resource, and depending on your choice, the game changes in a lot of ways.
Any tips for who I should go for right off the bat? I’ve got manager don and I love her so I guess I’m a bleed player now. Thankfully I already have ringsang but unfortunately I only have default egos and lantern Sinclair
@Simon-ur7bi Dulcenia Rodion and Priest Gregor. I would go with NFaust or REP Ryoshu for 5th pick. 6th could be Ring Outis if you run REP, no need 6th if you double slot Don, or a non-bleed generalist character.
well, they arent necessarily no brainers.
there is also bloise (it still works in md) which doesnt use any of the mentioned IDs.
and envy bleed (kind of in a bad spot right now, but at least they didnt forget about it and it receives some support so i would expect it to make a comeback in the sweeper intervalo) which uses only la mancha rodion from the meta team.
@@eldritchcupcakes3195 you could get the priest and the princess, because after this season they will be locked. And ring sang is definitely a no brainer. Or saving crates for l corp ryoshu in the next walpugisnatch night.
Everyone saying Esgoo this, Esgoo that... no hate, but I was waiting for your analysis on the ID more than anyone else!
Thanks, I'm glad to hear that!
Esgoo is overrated
@@Schiso13 Ultra and esgoo have different playstyles i feel like and also showcase IDs differently on their channels but esgoo usually talked about like one certain archetype in one video and even when hes talking about only one ID he also Verily will mention other Ids for powercreep or good to pair with or passives
Esgoo makes bad opinions. I'm still mad about him lying about huntcliff. It was in a walp stream where he was ignorant and his chat was correcting him
Esgoo's more recent opinions have honestly just been pretty bad, focusing on the wrong things like status application while ignoring important information of other actually important things (example: His Manager Don pre-release kit review where he thought the ID was gonna be bad because, shocker, it had the kit of an average bloodfiend ID and not a status applier like Ring Yi Sang).
Been waiting for this vid.
you're in luck, then :)
Saying she's bad at Bleed Count is a bit confusing. Spamming her counter applies more Count over a full skill rotation than Ring Outis not even counting for her empowered counter or skill 3. It's not optimal for damage but if you cant manage the stack without ring Outis, you dont need to be worrying about optimal damage
I mean, you lose all her strengths to get Bleed Count, so it's not exactly viable. Also the barber is pretty bad anyways, so Ring is always a safe choice (+ that thing about the attack weight still holds true)
@ultranumhere Also I find it funny how you completely just ignored most of the defense skill, you can litterly get a 50 hp shield across the entire team incase you lose the clash against the enemy's AOE skill or if it has unbreakables/unclashable. I was able to eat dulcinea's entire finale without taking a shred of damage which is just pure insanity, plus the free bloodfeast generation too..
Not to mention that to blood fiends bleed isnt "lets bleed out" but bleed is a resource like tremor/charge on self.
As always PM trying to catch up to their flaw ideas with lateral options.
Its interesting
But i bet the coders HATE THIS.
@ericquiabazza2608 ikr when you bleed its more like oh dam we gonna get a huge payout on bloodfeast aren't we
personally I just use Kuro Ryoshu's support passive for bleed count
as well as Rhino Meursalt in Ryoshu's place
2:07 if i remember correctly cap on heal is for on hit effect(so max 20hp heal from s1, 60 from es1, but i can't remember how it works with s2 attack weight, is it capped at 10 or works with every enemy separately)
It's funny how people talk about Don not having count is bad when Bleed has several ways to apply it (PLUS SANGUINE DESIRE EXISTS)
@@yokuutsu9097 it's true, I'm just using that argument to slander Barber some more
@ultranumhere maintaining the agenda is our top priority
@yokuutsu9097 making an entire team and entire archetype relying on one ego is bad itself. Specially warpnight one.
@@AllureA8-c3l Kurokumo Ryoshu existing:
N Faust:
Ring Outis / Yi Sang
.,,..,???
@@AllureA8-c3l Its is an EGO that can carry the bleed count but the entire team isnt reliant on it because RhinoMeur with his Yearning EGO and RingSang exists to keep the consistent bleed count. Sanguine Desire is just OP for bleed team but the team isnt reliant on it
YOOOOOO finally the vid is out! always waiting for your takes on the new ids, they are much better than what I see from other channels
Got her in 23 pulls, instantly put her to tier 4 and lvl 50 with the resources i was saving (i'm f2p), all so my friends also got access to her amazing(overtuned) kit.
Started getting hate mail from randos that added me as friend (i just accept all requests since i'm okay with sharing strong IDs) because of the 1 week they will have to wait to dispense her. Truly a gamer moment.
@@joaopc94 same here, but I do this for every new ID
idk if i understood this wrong but while I was playing with don in actual game I noticed that her max hp heal on each hit doesnt apply only 1 once, if you have "let all blossom free" with 2-3 attack weight, you will be healing with each time each target is hit, a max of 30 hp per coin at 3 attack weight
as someone who doesnt care about limbus gameplay i do think she has some missed opportunities (unique clash loose conditionals on unbreakables, sewing target on enhanced s2, maybe some festive fever on counter) but as a floor of technological sciences gamer sometimes you just wanna see big funny damage numbers. and also shes handsome
She's so strong it's ridiculous. Even without the other blood fiends she still does decent damage. I'm excited to what seasonal ids they make in the future.
I mean, that's why you gotta wait a week to shard her
I did a run in railway with all bloodfiends, ring sang and spider ryushu, end result was 47 turns. In my opinion bleed is one of the strongest teams, with sinking being the only competition. People are too obsessed with count, realistically bloodfiends show themselves more effective than team which is focused on effect only. If boss has to much coins they can just go unopposed in the nuke turn and deal much more damage than other team, with multiple enemies just use natural multu target skills of bloodfiends or Don's Mircala, and if boss allows to stack bleed just use sanguine desire and be done with it. Honestly, should focus less on status and more on what ids can do
Considering how insane and game changing Wild Hunt Heathcliff and now this ID are I think it’s safe to assume end of season IDs are gonna be game-changers from now on.
Aye Nclair was insane on launch they were always good after canto 2
They've always been that. Every "bad end" or whatever people call them ID is made to be a really powerful ID, often adding unique mechanics that change up the gameplay of meta teams. They're also built specifically to hard-counter thir own Canto.
@@ultranumhere I think Gregor and Rodya could use another shot. Otherwise I’d say you’re definitely correct.
Wait 5:13
Isn't the on kill conditional of La Sangre locked behind the 4th coin like Cing Sualt skill 3?
Ring sang's Maestro will give is us 1mil bleed count
The power creep situation just got even crazier.
Lol yeah
The sheer fact that Manager Don and Princess Rodya are the first IDs to contain 2+ attack weight skills that are innate is insane. That means they're the first two IDs to have non-gloom skills that aren't E.G.O that can trigger Grey Coat.
Sure in Don's case you need Barber Outis as well but still it's crazy nonetheless.
No? You don't need Barber outis to activate the attack weight increase. Sancho's unenhanced skill 2 can gain attack weight
@@lifeisnotokiedokie7243 the enhanced naturally has 2 weight(attack weight EGO gifts need the attack weight to be on the skill with no conditionals)
@@Sky-zw1rc oh I didn't know that. Thxx
peak returns once more
her enhanced def skill is so good. 3 counts on demand that can be used to get festivity buff from rodya for next turn nuke is just amazing.
I don’t know why I love hearing you yap so much about this kind of stuff, but I just really do. And thanks Project Moon for conceiving an IDea most ingenious.
There really isn't an issue with bleed count in bloodfiends, from what I've seen running all bloodfiends with ring sang and r mersualt is more than enough to keep up count, since your including the small amount of count from the bloodfiends and sanguine desire.
Right, but you're not running REP Ryoshu then. And I feel like Ryo is much more impactful than Outis most of the time (better damage, SP heals, more Bleed infliction) So giving her the slot over Meursault and changing Outis to Ring makes the team better against humans, and switching Outis for Ryo is better against bosses imo
@@ultranumhere I see 👍
She is great even outside of blead/bloodfiend team, this is because she just do ton of dmg instead of focus on keeping bleed around.
Though I expected more from her since the boss form being able to inflict a lot of count and having that insane "bleed deluge" skill. But nevertheless, she is a crazy strong id.
Got her with a ten pull ticket. Wow...my luck.
Out of all of the "Bad End" IDs so far, how would you tank them relative to each other?
Some Notes:
First off, the lack of count is just not true. If you decide to *only* use her counter, she will inflict a minimum of 12 count on a 6 skill rotation. This is on par with ringsang's count infliction as well as Nfaust.
2nd: She consistently has ownership of kkpassives, so you want to always use both of those whenever possible. (RR speedruns can opt for chef ryoshu for her s3 + contempt)
3rd: You shoud run gregor level 1 uptie 1 if at all possible. He is best off "in the party" but quickly dead to let another unit like ahab take his spot.The enhanced S1 gving +12 pot *and* popping bleed once is quite nice, but gregor himself is quite mediocre.
4th: barber outis significantly nerfs don's hardblood economy and it is quite likely not running her is optimal for this reason. It additionally gives you ways to generate hardblood while at 15+. Ring outis is a viable replacement, but so is rcliff/ahab.
yea and I want her (not just in game)
Ayo
Barber Outis slander?!
That's my thing
I can’t get her til Wednesday
But I got the necessary shards and the other three bloodfiends
I am SO READY FOR THIS
I was literally saying damn I need to hear what you got on her
it's your lucky evening, then
Indeed. On your mention of the bloodfiends not being suited for count, and barber outis, I'd appreciate if you could take a devil's advocate approach to seeing the damage differences between a team focused on max bleed stacks (traditional) and a bloodfiend team focused on using bleed to bloodfeast as a resource (as the current trio + don does).
@@johnsmith-dn8kv I'd also appreciate this, commenting to bring more attention to it
Me watching this video: uh huh uh huh good point..
Me 5s later playing md: winrate
Been using her for md and she’s been doing pretty well. I don’t have Gregor or outis yet (at least, not maxed out) so I’m just running her and dulci. Despite that, she’s doing some big numbers. Her skill 3 has hit over 1k damage 3 times now, and that’s only because every other time I’ve used it, the enemy died on the first or second coin. Her skill 2’s aoe allowed me to turn the railway 3 pack(the entire whale army) into a fucking joke. They were just food for her. Entire waves cleared in one turn almost single-handedly by her. Anyway, very solid unit. From what im seeing right now, I think wild hunt is stronger than her (most of her power comes from the bleed bias) but it’s pretty close. Shes very fun to use.
How good is Manager Don without the other bloodfiends? Failed to get the other bloodfiends but want to try out Manager Don
Wait, if rodya consumes bloodfeast on start, but don is “on use” effect, and don take precedence before rodya. Does that mean our princess is going to be starved?
Quality analysis, had to double check i was subscribed to not miss peak.
Also, out of curiosity does the order of ID's slotted in matter much? Currentl;y running the 4 bloodfiends + Ringsang and Rhinosault.
You want to give the slot depending on what you want more of. 2 slots on R Meur give him faster setup and more count, but you greatly slow down your damage output, for example.
Deploy your IDs depending on the importance of their role to the fight you're entering, and give priority to stronger IDs when multiple fill the same niche.
Imho, barber outis is kinda useless outside of damage dealer niche(0 bleed count in kit, no support for team) while 00 ring outis is greatly supports ring sang's s2, and can apply a ton of count(can't remember if she can apply more count than r corp rhino with all conditions), but with slightly weaker clashing, and, of course, lesser damage
Forgot about that barber's buff of don's s2 is so useless, like, oh +1 attack weight is cool, but what else? I don't think, that +10(+-5)% damage is enough to justify spending hardblood like s3(still better than rodya's buffed counter, but rodya is a good id, because it's just a damage dealer disguised as support)
i'm so donpilled rn i put her on my speedrun md burn team GALOP ONNN SANCHOOO
Lmao nice
Painter yi sang looking at sancho and saying welcome to the club
Cant wait for the 3 page id analysis in Hong Lu’s canto lmfao
i can see that taking half an hour
@ good luck in 3 months lol
@@x3dwany371at the rate the updates are going, make it 5 months
@ more time to farm lunacy
@@x3dwany371 Fair, gotta get that Faust collab EGO
do you have any opinion on 'sewing target' passive damage from barber outis? i think the boost into bosses is important
My only complaint about her is the fact that while her self heal is incredibly strong (up to 90 hp on base s2), she can't inflict enough bleed on herself for it to matter. Which is kind of sad, since she is supposed to take care of the family, so a lot of self bleed would make sense. Oh, and I guess I wouldn't mind a bit more count.
But still, a great video!
(Also, her drip looks so good, I can't take my eyes off it.)
the lack of self-bleed is fine, I think it's nice to not have an infinite amount of Bloodfeast (in non-MD content, at least)
I think the healing is more to keep up with MD bleed amounts and to keep her very tanky while having low health.
9:32 what’s that song it’s great!
What does he mean by slots 1,2 and 3 at 13:04
How many skills she can use in a turn
Question is: is it worth running a Mersault with the bloodfiend team due to Yearning Mircalla?
I’m a newer player so my Bleed team(my only team) is nothing too crazy
My “bleed team” currently has Ring Yi Sang and Outis, N corp Sinclair(should’ve picked Faust I know, I didn’t expect Ring Yi Sang to spook me), Middle Little Sister Don, and freaking Wuthering Heights Faust💀(I have no other bleed ID so I chose the one that gives me Fluid Sac)
My current targets are Princess Rodion, Red Eyes Ryoshu, and N corp Faust
I only have lunacy for 4 ten pulls
Should I pull for the Manager or prioritize other things like Walpurgis coming up probably right after this banner?
Just save for walpurgis brother you can shard don up until new season comes out while walpurgis will give you a bunch of exclusive stuff that only comes once in a while. Hope your having fun playing!
Walp ids will probably be crazy broken in md if they work anything like what they are based on (which they always did until now)
here in the early party
To me people dismiss a lot of the stuff going on with the bloodfiends and the bleed team I've been playing them since the launch of barber outis and honestly is way better than most think of, outis is a slow burner that becomes a kiling machine once the early set up is done giving stuff like potency damage and other utilities depending on the situation, gregor is a tank with a little bit of count then and there, he can tank a lot so you can let him get hit so you can get some free count hits in exchange of some hp, rodion buffs and has some ok count, her s3 is just good in general and can use hex nail and sanguine desire, the non blood fiend are good too, Rhinosault may be the worst but he isn't bad, I don't have regret but I still can get use of his skills, S1 may be bad but those charge conditionals give hime some cool stuff from the extra speed, his count is nice even without mircalla but with it in the right set up you can just get free count.
So when it comes to Don honestly I think what she's got irs actually really good, she may not be brainless like wild hunt, but it doesn't matter because her tools make the slow build up so much rewarding once you get to use those powered up skills, even the normal ones have their use once you get enough count, even the powered counter is better than it seems as it gives you extra count and consumes way less hardblood than the other skills, pretty much mantaining your hardblood stable when you need it. Honestly the new bleed team has more to it than what most people asume, and I hope that more stuff like this gets added
We were betrayed. We haven't been delivered to. Where is the original Sancho haircut, ProjectMoon?
This one's more of a Father Don haircut tho, so we get part of the villain, as usual
honestly i feel like there isn't any huge problems with bleed count on the 4 bloodfiend team, gregor and rodya both have 2 count with their skill 2s so on bosses you can keep up the count pretty well, not to mention that ring yi sang has good count on his skill 2 as well. i think looking at the bloodfiends in a vacuum is a bad thing, and while barber outis is definitely not the best i'd say it's still worth running her for the empowered skill 2 given that you have other good count application units like ring yi sang or r corp meursault
oh dont forget the 2 count on greg s3, 1 count on rodya s3-1, 2 on s3-2, and 1 on counter! all things given, once you got count going above 5-6, you're pretty set to go as long as the boss isnt nelly or any high coin amount bosses. those aren't all that hard to do if you got lucky on ringsang s2 reuses, ringtis s2, and r meursault on the team all things considered.
yeah, but my question is would you rather give up REP Ryoshu or Barber Outis for R Meur. I don't think Outis is anywhere near Ryoshu's level, so I don't see her staying. And if she doesn't, might as well take ring over R Corp against humans (on bosses meursault still has his EGO tho)
not running barber will make you be able to stack more hardblood since all enhanced skill consume it, sacrificing 1 bloodfiend (barber) to maintain harblood by using an unenhanced skill is definitely better especially when ring outis has the count.
I thought Priest Gregor would stay the ID with my favorite animations in the game, but nah... I've never seen anything as badass as I Shall Impale.
I honestly think don is better as a 2nd/3rd slot simply due to ring sang being an absolute monster and along with the fact that getting off a enhanced skill every turn is still really good, especially when you consider that don's enhanced skill 1 entirely pays for its bloodiest plus extra, while not taking away all hardblood, leaving usually 4~6 left. Also, ring outis > barber outis.
That's also an option. Though RIngsang needs to set himself up anyways, so there's not much difference between him getting a slot on turn 2 or 3. Also I'm glad the Outis propaganda holds strong
Bleed team with Bloodfiend is experiencing what bloodfiend felt on a daily basis of not having enough bleed to sustain themselves, even with Priest Gregor sacrifice himself.
Real
dulc rodion will always be my first slot because of 4 power up for her and a bfiend
Don and RingSang still have better damage tho
@ultranumhere also you get rodion breasts when winning if you slot 1 her
cool video
thanks!
fun fact
Kurokumo Ryoshu support passive allows the fastest sinner to apply bleed count whenever they apply bleed (to an enemy so don't worry about Gregor)
Isn't it just bleed potency?
@@Memuer no its count
you are thinking of Hong Lu's Kuro passive
@@marfit77 They have the same passive unless every single limbus wiki is somehow wrong
@@Memuer look at it up in the actual game
I am able to get like 5 bleed count a turn on a single enemie with qa bloodfiend team
Cassetti ID will be the bleed count king trust me
For sure
I started the game and got her on the first pull alongside Nclair. But now I don't have the other three bloodfiend so i guess I need to farm for them ?
It's gonna be a while until you can properly farm if you've just started. Just play the game and then build the team you're closest to with your pulls
This might be heresy but I've been taking N Faust over Ring Sang in my comps and I'm really enjoying it. The lustres sanity recovery is nice early in the fight, access to Fluid Sac is nice in a pinch, but honestly the main thing is that Nails puts in more work for bleed count than I think people give it credit for. Hitting a skill 2 inflicts 5 of them, which is 7 count across 2 turns. I think between all the bloodfiends bleed teams already do a TON of damage to the point where Ring Sang feels kind of...unnecessary? At least to me. In MD Ring Sang is still kind of the clear pick because EGO gifts make count trivial, but I think outside of that Faust is a seriously underrated pick in spite of her weak clashing.
That being said, if you've got the bloodfiends and two other IDs that provide any kind of count it's kinda hard to make a bad bleed team now. I think there's valid reasons to take any of Ring Sang, RSault, Hook Lu, or N Faust to resolve the count issue based on personal preference.
Nah, you're cooking too much. Just give her the 6th slot if you want her. No need to give up RingSang
@ I do put her in the 6th slot, Manager Don is obvs first slot for maintaining passive like you mentioned in the video. I leave in Red Eyes Ryoshu as the other non-bloodfiend ID
@Phase4TheProphet why Ryo over RingSang, tho? He deals more damage than her and gets more value from Lust chains, he's just better
This might disappoint you, but it's not 7 count over 2 turns. She applies 5 nails with her skill 2, which then are halfed at turn end to 2 nails. Then, at next turn start it applies 2 count. Then it's halfed to 1 nails. Then it applies 1 count, adding up to 3 count over 2 turns. Nails always half themselves at turn end, and most n corp ids apply nails same turn, not next turn, so any amount of nails you manage to apply is getting halfed and rounded down first before ever applying any count.
My wife and fist XD got in 1 pull
Nice, good for you!
@ultranumhere oh a i think that yes bring ring otis is good since you all ready get 2 attack weight on skill 2 basis but i want to ask. For getting blood fest which skill is better skill 1 or the counter
@@MuchachonotoMuchachonoto if you mean getting the hardblood by consuming the bloodfeast, Skill 1 is the best one, as it gives 1 hardblood per 5 bloodfeast, while all the other skills give 1 per 10, which means it gives 10 bloodfeast while the others give only 5 (i think)
@@Eduardo-wx2qv i did do that before so I can save skill 2( i was using Barber otis) but now ring yi sang have given me his idea of using ring otisi so now i don't really have that much for sancho stack so counter is better right??
When’s the analysis of the new burn id?
Who?
@ you right…
tbh at 1 slot bringing priest and/or barber is throwing, its better to save the hardblood for the crazy skill 3 or burn off some with empowered counter if the s3 isnt coming soon,
She's fun to solo in mirror dungeon, and it gets pretty brainless once you have the full skill slot
My concern is ....
Why SLOTH S1 THOUGH? At least she can give more sloth to fuel Sunshower for RingSang. Maybe they rlly want us to corrode Sunshower for the pierce frag.
Fr though, i'm rlly enjoying setting up Sunshower corrosion+ Outis Ya Sunyata corrosion. Inflicting lust frag+ pierce frag with some fragility (rng but still yeah) for the next turn full Lust resomance (which is easy af to do with that team). It's kinda crazy how the gang synergize so well (not to mention RingSang + MDon + Dulci Rodya are all pierce)
Wishing cairn needs sloth for example
It’s funny that lots of people complain about her because she’s not at wildhunt or ring sang power level.
Even funnier considering she's better than ring
@ I still don’t think she’s better than his funny s2 and passive, but she’s incredibly strong, especially in a team with at least 2 bloodfiends. It’s even funnier that lots of people complain she’s weak without the bloodfiends. I mean like even without the hardblood, she still rolls above average, and she becomes stronger with her family around is lore-accurate. She is not a hobo who raided a mansion with a horse by himself.
i will use barber outis as an outis simp and you can't stop me
Just my opinion on this, but i think the opportunity cost of barbtis is much better than you describe it. Imo the only place that ringtis performs consistently better is in single target bosses with one body part. Tbe extra hardblood generation of barbtis as well as the good aoe/multiple part damage on barbtis makes her better than ringtis in aoe scenarios, and on par with her for multiple part bosses, as well as universally better in md.
IMO split apart isn’t worthwhile, base form also has weight and doesn’t take hard blood, so you can use it them Sancho ascension arts la sangre de sancho
Counterpoint: it's so cool
@ is it cooler than la sangre, or a buffed ego?
@ThomasOwOD Yes imo
@@Memuer to each their own I guess…0
Ring Sang will enjoy having another ally
His tram grows stronger every week
Bloodfiend IDs are not bleed IDs, they're charge IDs that use bleed and bloodfeast as their charge count and potency
Every single status in the game is charge if you consider consuming resources in exchange for enhanced skills as charge's identity, but that isnt even true. Ever since w corp outis charge is all about potency which allows it to permanently ramp up an id's power to another level every time it increases. Times have changed.
@Memuer that is literally wrong, only poise works like a charge while the others are debuffs including bleed. If you're talking about newer IDs, then yeah most of them are "charge" Id (like coffin for WH and Trunk stacks for devyat)
@@HeseliqMikav Coffin is the closest but the way it's gained is still completely different compared to consuming a resource for permanent buff. Trunk isn't even permanent as it inevitably kills you. And no, I am not wrong. Almost every single id gains enhanced skills via coin/clash power from a status that is depleted. This is why so many people say "everything is literally just charge" which I don't agree with. If you don't think that everything is charge, then you're just not thinking like the people I was trying to disagree with with my reply. Like, obviously there are huge differences between skills but a lot of people call them all charge anyway.
@@Memuer again that is completely wrong. First of all, which status consumes a stored value? Only Poise and Charge because the rest are debuffs and personal charge like hard blood and coffin depends on the ID itself not the status, so "all status is somewhat of a charge" is factually wrong. "Newer IDs are just some form of charge unit" is the factually correct statement. Saying all status is basically charge because they "consume" something is like saying dmg up and fragile is the same thing because both of them makes you deal more damage.
NOT the don we wanted count heads stay strong the real queen will arrive soon
You must be speaking French, cuz who is "we"
Cassetti meursault when
1:36 what do you mean low level brother that 1 year wort off grinding daily and MD run at least 1 every single day
it might be 1 year worth of grinding, but I've been playing since release, so almost 2 years now. Gotta get those numbers up
Sancho... it's so peak...
I have conceived an idea most ingenious
its unfortunate that i have to kick barber outis out of my bleed team (at least outside of mds) to keep count up
plus the fact that shes (by far) the hungriest for bloodfeast after sancho means that ironically kicking her out will allow other bloodfiends to ramp up even faster i guess i'll have to rely on ring sang/outis and nfaust (for easy reuse on the ring ids also the little count it brings and also for fluid sac) i wish we could have a single more slot open in the team just to see what it would bring to team building in this game
Yet another reason to use Ring Outis amirite
I'm finding that she's doing half the damage of The princess somehow
Skill issue
How? Are you putting princess first?
"low level" -> 84
man... I haven't ever miss a single week of mirror nor the dailies since day 1.... I'm level 86
84 is very respectable, the ones with 100+ levels are sick XD
Подписался, друже. Хороший контент. Интересно, что с твоим акцентом я все лучше понимаю))) лайк за видео, жду про блеед-тимы)
I think all we need is a bleed french man id similar to Rhino that is mono Bleed Count to bring out bleeds full potential. I think using Rhino is not optimal because his Bleed Count conditionals are inconsistent, so a much more consistent version of him would be wonders. Not only that but we can also use his Yearnings Mircala ego
Would make Bleed a lot stronger, but idk if we're getting more Bleed IDs after Don lol
He is more consistent than Hook Lu if you manage his count at guaranteed 10 per cycle, which is not bad at all. He is fine as is, but better id is to be appreciated. His issue is that he has no potency without yearning(this ego carrrying his ass tbh) and clashes like ass as with meur ids without regret.
Another problem is that he is competing with lob ryo in md and human battles (exp lux), which is 90% of contents. The only places where he can reasonably compete with her are thread lux and railway.
i got her after 3 discounted daily pulls
Insanity.
Insane..? Insane is a synonym for crazy...
i pulled 3 star ryoshu in the yi sang boosted banner I want to cry
Happens to the best of us. That's why you gotta shard the best IDs
Wait, what do you mean "Not subscribed: 100%"? I created 2000 accounts and rewatched your videos on them just to make sure it goes at least to 102%...
can we have a moment of peace to pay tribute to the poor souls who gambled all their walpurgis funds and came out with nothing... (i managed to get two of her in 12 pulls i'm so sorry)
People really should wait a week
@@ultranumhere personally just wasnt too interested in fullstop office and I have all over walp content anyway lol (except hook hong lu. I've done 400 total walp pulls over the months. no hook hong lu. I'm mad about it. 😭)
@@You-px2zz Why you don't just shard him?
Fell bullet yi sang wins again for chain battles
lol this might be its purpose
Haven’t fully started the video but I’ll say her empowered s2 isn’t worth it since you’re spending 20 hardblood for +1 attack weight compared to base with 20 hardblood.
Why we hating on barber so much bro. How bad could she be?
S2 dependant, which bad
not bad, just pointless in the team especially when there's a better option (ring)
Barboutis has fine clashes but doesnt apply much bleed count, there are better IDs to use for bleed teams than barboutis
good new pfp but sadly he's all mine..
I'll fight you for him
i dont know jackshit but ill summon or wait for the collab
Walpurgis is another good option
i got her first ten pull
Nice! You're gonna enjoy using her
Just something to note is that Barber isn't worth running as she not only cannot consume any Bloodfeast due to rodya and don, but also she actively nerfs Don's s2! The enhanced S2 trades 20(TWENTY) hardblood for 1 extra atk weight over unenhanced and an unbreakable coin, and on top of that rolls lower! For comparison unenhanced S2 rolls 16(20 with conditionals), has 2 coins, and 3 atk weight, and actually GENERATES hardblood, while the enhanced ver rolls 13(19 with conditionals), has 3 coins of which one is unbreakable and 4 atk weight at its peak while SPENDING 20 hardblood for it. Needless to say its quite the downgrade and it almost feels like an oversight from the dev team, and that's not even mentioning outis's inability to generate any bleed count compared to ring or her inability to consume bloodfeast which keeps her completely useless in a full fiend team
Another reason to not run her, we love to see it
Manager Don > Erlking Heathcliff, change my mind.
Idk if I would go that far, but she's hella strong
Underwhelming glad i don't feel for jew trickery