Look at toto"s face when the tv cuts to him the moment Russell crossed the finish line. It looks pretty upset to me and at the time i thought it was weird that he had that expression when his team just won the race
@@pietervanbreda4360There is a minimum weight limit. If Hamilton's cars over the years were under the minimum weight then Merc would have been cheating. However his car was not so they did not Nice try though
So please explain why they would purposefully underweight their car by less than enough for a big enough performance advantage AND knowing they all get weighed at the end of the race
The cooldown lap excuse is stupid, Everyone knows that there isn't one at spa. The fact they didn't drain the fuel completely to "fool" the FIA is all you need to know
@simoncfly No, I think they made a genuine miscalculation. The investigation found that pre race, both Mercedes were the same weight. Russell commits to a 1 stop, the only driver to do so, and is found underweight and Disqualified. It has to be the tyres. People are forgetting those things shed ALOT of rubber over a race. It's no surprise that 30 lap old tyres would weigh less than 15 lap old tyres. Why do you think that typically they all run over the rubber marbles to pick up extra weight?
They know to allow for it, but how much? I imagine The repaved track might have impacted that answer. It's a miscalculation they weren't cheating. They were cutting it close and cut it too Close due to the unplanned one stop.
I’m sorry if the car isn’t at the correct weight then of course he gained an advantage and this would have been amplified towards the end of the race .
So how come it still passed minimum weight at the podium weighbridge? It failed the dry weight test ,not minimum. You are not allowed to count fuel as ballast. So yes it failed dry weight test but had no advantage . Besides Piastri and Lewis on outright pace would have driven past Russell ,7/10ths a lap quicker at least . But track position and skillful driving kept both behind Russell and Norris behind Verstappen . Also Hamilton and Piastri had a 12 lap advantage on tyre offset.
First of all they tested his car with fresh tires and it was still underweight so this is blatantly false about the weight differential being from his tires
A lighter car has the performance advantage no matter how minute it is. Many a driver has been disqualified for a lesser infringement. The cars may have been within 500grams of each other but one car was obviously using fuel as ballast and that is illegal. Even if the performance advantage is minor it is magnified on a circuit where overtaking is difficult. The car must weigh 798kg after the fuel sample has been provided and it did not. Give f1 teams half an inch and they will take a mile. Remember they read rules and look at what has not been said and exploit it.
Why are you guys saying it was remarkable? Karun was never a good driver full stop....he is well spoken and a good knowledge of formula one but nothing else.
Karun was never in a semi competitive car let alone a competitive car so a bit of a harsh call to say that he was never a good driver! He was good enough to make it all the way to Formula One.
Nothing you said they said makes sense. It sounds like a carefully articulated lie to hide the fact that they were trying to undermine Lewis, who deserved the win 100%. Merc will be garbage to me as soon as Lewis leaves.
Blah blah blah......He weighed out. Its that simple. There are zero explanations needed. Good theory crafting and investigative reporting. The team failed a great performance from Russell. Look im not a Russell fan but i will say this. He ran a great race and drove really good to get there on one stop, I would never take that away from him. But the fact of the matter is this. The team screwed up and that happens. Move on.
The fact of the matter is Lewis asked the team if he could do a one stop before the race....they told him no.. what Russell did was in my opinion nothing at all special. Lewis complained they kept bringing him in with plenty left on his tyres.
@@TheNorville2Yeah. That was dodgy. They also didn't tell Lewis he was racing George so he couldn't manage his pace as he liked. Also, there are many excuses made, they keep saying it was a team mistake but who knows if it was. Why don't people consider it was a driver mistake as well? According to Mercedes Russell and Lewis were within 500 grams of each other. Well, if that's true then George may well have pushed too hard for the remaining tread and plank wear expected (both have been pointed to). That still leaves a kilogram he lost. Also, what if he had a lighter car anyway? Not saying it was, but wouldn't that be a spectacular backfire?! All this has took the shine off of a great performance by Lewis as well. One stop was obviously faster given George was P5 for most of that race. It's not like he was P1 or 2 with only a few seconds covering Lewis and George, Lewis led comfortably. A shame it's all moping for George. Also Karun's point is annoying, other teams were at minimum weight plus they had fuel, minimum of one litre is needed for a sample too, so he's being disingenuous. Also, that fuel Russell had meant he didn't need to lift and coast and ran rich the entire race. The rich part I saw on a forum so grain of salt needed. It's not just a case of he had fuel so he had no advantage, he could run flat out and that's without adding the performance advantages of using fuel as ballast such as COG benefits and balance. Oh yeah, and Lewis had just set fastest laps, but then he was brought in. Just a bit later Russell's radio goes off about one stopping. That strategy was super risky too imo. Of Piastri was any faster past Leclerc Merc could have lost two wins in one day (assuming Oscar passed Lewis and George was DSQ). Something doesn't smell right at times...
Mercedes knows whats up.......they are not a team to speculate what went wrong and not only that why didnt they drain the fuel completely???? They tried to pull a fast one and got caught out.
10 kg make +-0,3 seconds difference in one lap. 1.5 kg makes +- 0.05s per lap = 2.2 seconds per race. Not much, he would have probably won the race but Piastri in 3rd place was just 1.1 seconds behind at the end of the race so you could argue George would finish 3rd if he wasn't underweight even doe Lewis was faster have cought him but couldn't pass him in last few laps. In this sport where the difference is mesured in 0.001s and 0.1 mm rules are rules and you have to aknowledge them.
Lets not be silly Mercedes are not stupid, they know that the Fia would suss any infringement, to me this was a genuine mistake by Mercedes they didn't really expect George to be able to run the one stop strategy, but with the way things went they took a chance on a win that really wasnt realistic.
In fact they were surprisingly calm about it. They just admitted that they fucked up and moved on (as they should). No lamenting or being furious at all
If both cars are the same. The difference would be race strategy therefore common denominator is tire wear. Russel gambled and lost and victory wasn’t given it was earned by Lewis the race leader. Hamilton finished on hard tires also.
Friendly tip - if you show a paragraph of text on screen don't read the whole thing out word for word. It's very dull for the viewer who will have already finished the text by the time you're halfway through reading it all out. Silent reading is much faster than spoken reading.
I feel that mercedes was using george russell's car Fuel as balice( Allegedly), that's why he was always 2 tens faster than Hamilton and if you listen to the race they told Hamilton to lift and coast in the race because the was no safety car but didn't to Russell so he could drive at maximum speed which help him with the one stop( but was hard on the tyre, plus when fighting with Hamilton at the later stage of the race that helped Russell to stop Hamilton from overtaking looking at the F1 lap times Russell was faster in a Straight line and Hamilton was faster in the rest of the track. plus it was so Peculiar, that Russell, When he got weighed at the end of the race, he was saying, what is my weight? What is my weight? to the young lady? from mercedes just watch the race ending on sky f1 if they don't edit it out. We will have to see what happens in the next few races to see if his pace is different, anyway Hamilton only has a few more races with mercedes Then everyone will be going red and price crash at mercedes if they don't get verstappen 😂
Another video that says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about this topic. The matter was solved and moved on in a matter of hours. We all need to stop clicking on these links and watch proper F1 channels. Complete waste of time.
Karun is known for always going against Lewis. At this point its pathetic. Asking Karuns opinion is the equivalent of asking Max’s girlfriend what she thinks of Lewis.
The underweight wasn't the only illegal thing that would have George disqualified, his plankwear was too big because of running low to the ground, thereby gaining more downforce.
That Hamilton guy was actually driving a lot lot better so Mercedes knowing Hamilton is leaving for Ferrari desperately trying to make George match Hamilton on paper but that Hamilton has been too fast and too strong
Surely if Mercedes could have changed the tyres to the mediums taken off at the one pitstop that would have been over the weight, identical cars dont have different weights so how come the discrepancy?
What they’re not saying in this video is that the car was weighed twice. The second time, weighing the tires separately. If the tires were the problem, why hasn’t anyone talked about the tire weight vs Sir Lewis. Asking for a friend who believes that Mercedes is a George centric team since he came over from Williams as Toto’s golden child.
All cars where weight after the race. It was a clear cheating exercise and Mercedes knew it. Therfore they left a bit more liquid in the tank during the first weight contoll. It was only clear after the second check when the tank was completly empty. Toto said it was a mistake. Yes ofcourse when in F1 you have got every little data accurately. Ho want could believe that?
So how did they have exactly the same weight after qualifying and was kept by Fia till just before the race, please explain did the FIA sabotage his car under lock up.
What nonsense Karun talks. No performance advantage he says! If Chandok doesn't understand that its no wonder he could only buy drives. Merc knew at the end of the race what was going on. Rightfully George wasn't good enough and needed to stop and maybe finish 6th where he belonged. He deserved and got disqualified. Listening to the tripe Merc put out for cheating tells you the quality of people employed there.
Finally, why nobody talking about Lewis's radio comm....WHAT IS LOSE AND MOVING BY HIS PADALs!!! Who left a golf ball there...lucky he didn't crash!!! Driving on edge of limit and concentration with moving object by your pedals!!!!!
He was the only one to do a one stopper. The disqualification wasn’t because of doing a one stopper, it was because of being under the allowed weight at end of a race!
I don’t this Russell should have won because this team gave him a 20 second leap on Lewis witch is crazy.that race belongs to Lewis he did everything right.
Maybe the FIA can have Pirelle make them some weighing tires. Tires with a known weight that are used when weighing the car. Thus eliminating the guess work.
@robertwilson8365 Rims are all supposed to be standardized now. The tires would not need to be balanced if they are listed as "Push Only." Each team could have a set.
That is the most idiotic statement ever! The car would be never under minimum weight because of the fuel, the cars are weighed empty, so if the car 1.5 KG at weight in the once you put the fuel in it is still going to be lighter then ever other car on the track !!! The marble argument is moronic as well ,look These teams have been at this a long time! And these mistake just don’t happen! Unless they want to! The plank argument is stupid as well because the car is LIGHTER means bouncing less which means less plank degradation! When George won the race and Mercedes finished 1 and 2 and BAM The camera goes to Toto he is stoned faced, panicked white as a ghost because he knew then George’s car would be checked and they would be caught CHEATING! I Don’T a DQ is enough the whole team should face a pole position penalty!
Karun is telling a flat out lie 😂. The rules are the rules for a reason. Time to move on. George didn’t even win anyways . Lewis drove a flawless race and his team screwed him again and made him pit when he said he didn’t need to pit.
The 1.5 kg loss of weight might have been avoided if George didn't race Lewis for the win during the last 10 laps or so. If George just let Lewis or even Oscar through his tires would not be subject to the high amount of degradation. George may not be aware of the loss of weight during the heat of the race but his team should with all the telemetry data available. Toto's rather weird expression on seeing the 1-2 finish just speaks it all. Anyway this is not a race for George to win.
They were trying lighter parts and didn't expect to win, George may have used more fuel on his changed strategy, 1.5kg is about a litre and a half which I imagine is easily saved in the slow run down through the pit lane. What the aren't saying is just how close Hamiltons cars was to the weight limit at the end if they both started the same. They're not the first to be caught out doing illegal stuff and won't be the last, they were just unfortunate this weekend.
The question of would a tyre change have made the difference is pointless because he would not have won the race if he had. It was the staying out and track position achieved by that which had him cross the line first, oh, and his great driving it has to be said. And that is coming from someone who is not a George fan at the best of times
And the first 5 drivers would have have beaten George if they had one stopped and didn't worry about min weight. So Georges drive wasn't anything special because he didn't follow the rules.
the ones who said they are "cheating completely dont understand engineering. the only "cheating" possible is having george turn up his engine mode to "party mode". the maximum fuel richness. and that could make his car benefit against ALL the other cars are NOT in their maximum mode. what are the chances of that happening? they all want to win. you are saying george the only one using the max engine mode? also, there is nothing saying its a crime to use max engine mode in race day. so is it "cheating" if that is in fact the case? what could happen is, there is a clause in the FIA rule that the stewards may SWAP the tyre being weigh along with the car with one or more provided by the steward themselves if they deem the available tyres attached to the car is not by standards or missing one or even more. this provide a "plot twist", what if the steward were determined to make sure george car is BELOW limit? especially if they saw the weight with george's original tyre sets are just ounces above the limit? "hey do we still have that worse sets of tyre? put 3 in and swap 3 of his with it". and then voila! BELOW limit.
Guys just move on. The team made a mistake with their strategy with Russell and got disqualified for it. Tbh I'm not sure if they were cheating or gambling but I personally think it was an error so just move on. If anything, you guys are free to corrrect me. I would appreciate that
The team favour Hamilton over Russell all the time you know this from totos reaction when Russell beats Hamilton which has been most of the season but they should remember it's not Russell leaving at the end of the season George has been there best driver over the last 3 years get it sorted toto
They are all intentionally right on the edge of the rules. This sucks for Russell but you want to drive for a Team pushing the margins to win. I'm rooting for Russell now!!!
Fuck George Russell, and fuck Mercedes! The idea that they would shaft their own teammate who led the entirety of the race while Russell wasn’t even competing for a fucking podium is disgusting. Russell was competing for six and seven place what he did was not amazing. Everyone said the tires were great.
@@martijnborst8206 When you add the fact that Alonso & Stroll *BOTH* did 30+ laps on the Hard compound tire to finish the race then Merc starts to look shady AF!!!🤔😳
How many times have these strange events happened to only car 44??? Answer: too many times!!! Once he started the restart all by himself. Rain. Everyone changed tyres after a spin off...1 lap after restart...BOX BOX BOX, 19 seconds added to his race...= lost A SURE WIN!!!
Well, Why ONLY Mercedes has that problem and none of the other teams? Thats the question you need to ask. And if rules are broken even there always follows a punishment. Disqualification. But this counts for all the teams. Dissobey the rules and if you have bad luck you get a strike or punishment for it, it's that simpel. And Mercedes could known this from the start. But they bet on it that it would not happen or noticed. They lost the bet..... Weight DOES matter, especially 1.5kg could win tenths.
FIA easily realized their verdict on Mercedes fault, but we back to Abu Dhabi racing during championship last 2021, do don't even finalized the official who made mistake and fraud, it's not fair at all. Redbull team always cheating every racing but like wise theybegnore delayed those cheating , it takes too many observation and investigation to released a verdict, it seems the official of FIA had a favoritism, that's a full fuck at all.
First of all: They weighed the car. It was underweight. That's a clear DQ, there is no room for interpretation here. There IS nothing to investigate. Secondly: It's been almost 3 YEARS!!!! Can we please stop talking about Abu Dhabi 2021. Yeah waht happened was not right, but 3 FUCKING YEARS. Also, I assume you meant to say they didn't even penalize the official who mad the mistake... Masi got fired. Idk that seems like a penatly to me...
So everyone else knew that except Mercedes. You must like fairytales. Look at Wolff after the race compared to the previous one. He already knew. Just not if they would get sprung. They decided to wing it for a 1,2 . They're trying to attract Verstappen to Mercedes.
I think i now wats going on. They aimend for 2 cars in the top 5 . Only Max was stuck in traffic, Piastri is not fast enough, farrari is not fast enough in the race. There was nobody in neigberhood how could win. They made a calculation error. The howl tyre excuse is bull shit. What is if you are number one in your wiliams efferybody has pitted, except u. The race ends becaus of someting at more then 75% off the race distance. Youre car must weigh more then the min whitout fuel.
It is obviously very annoying to some Russell and Mercedes haters that Russell could pull it off, and it has to feel like an answer to someone's prayers that the car was underrweight... but don't feast too much - there is much more brilliance to come from Russell.
@@janengelbrecht they tried to trick the FIA by leaving fuel in the car during weighing...busted....tire strategy forced 2 stop on Hamilton race leader and gimmick sabotage one stop for russell to win ahead of the guy who had led the race from lap 4...failed..get your brain cleaned...
Russell is a brilliant driver yes, but because the car was *_underweight,_* not *_overweight,_* he gained more than half a tenth per lap, which means he gained a total of more than 2.2 seconds throughout the race, which in turn puts him more than half a second behind Piastri in the finishing result. Add to that the fact that they were slowed down by Russell going slow and if the overtake was done before it reached the final lap, he might've been even further behind. The reason Lewis and Charles were keeping up with Max's RB19 at CotA last year was because their car's were illegally lowered. That doesn't make them any less brilliant but fact is that they wouldn't have come so close to Maxiepads otherwise.
WE ARE NOT STUPID. THERE ARE RULES IN ANY SPORT. GLORIFYING HOW GREAT AND BRILLIANT SOMEONE IS. IT IS STILL MAKES YOU IRRELEVANT AND A CHEATER. SIMPLE AS THAT. 1.5 kgs loss of chunks of rubber and planks. PROVE IT!! IT should be MYTHBUSTERS LEVELS. TH-cam LIPFLAPPIMG is not going to change anything CHEATER.
All this tire talk and picking up rubber talk is a load of crap noting realistically explains that weight loss and performance because a cheat was employed
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They went as far as removing paint from the car to go faster. So don’t tell me weight doesn't matter.
Yes, but wasn't that about 90 years ago? 😉
Weight is part of speed bro it's evident😅
@@tuesla2010 In the last few years, teams have been using lighter weight paint.
everybody knows your car goes faster if you paint flames on it.
They have used lightweight paint since the 90s@@anthonyscales8691
Look at toto"s face when the tv cuts to him the moment Russell crossed the finish line. It looks pretty upset to me and at the time i thought it was weird that he had that expression when his team just won the race
IF A CAR IS LIGHTER IT GOES FASTER, ITS CHEATING AS SIMPLE AS THAT, STOP THE EXCUSES.
Russel never can beat Hamilton only when Mercedes cheat😢
Exactly and exactly
So if the lightest car on track is 7 kgs lighter than a Haas for instance , iit's cheating
@@kkapalle That's how Lewis won 6 titles with them.
@@pietervanbreda4360There is a minimum weight limit. If Hamilton's cars over the years were under the minimum weight then Merc would have been cheating. However his car was not so they did not
Nice try though
THEY KNOW EVERY INCH OF THAT CAR DONT BE FOOLED
So please explain why they would purposefully underweight their car by less than enough for a big enough performance advantage AND knowing they all get weighed at the end of the race
@@harry4454 Please he typed that in all uppercase to make his opinion superior, we have no choice but to accept it without question.
The cooldown lap excuse is stupid, Everyone knows that there isn't one at spa. The fact they didn't drain the fuel completely to "fool" the FIA is all you need to know
Dude it's the FIA that drains the fuel under supervision by the team
I love when people like you think you know something
@@hindae085 So you know they cheated then!
@simoncfly No, I think they made a genuine miscalculation.
The investigation found that pre race, both Mercedes were the same weight. Russell commits to a 1 stop, the only driver to do so, and is found underweight and Disqualified.
It has to be the tyres. People are forgetting those things shed ALOT of rubber over a race. It's no surprise that 30 lap old tyres would weigh less than 15 lap old tyres.
Why do you think that typically they all run over the rubber marbles to pick up extra weight?
They know to allow for it, but how much? I imagine The repaved track might have impacted that answer. It's a miscalculation they weren't cheating. They were cutting it close and cut it too Close due to the unplanned one stop.
I’m sorry if the car isn’t at the correct weight then of course he gained an advantage and this would have been amplified towards the end of the race .
So how come it still passed minimum weight at the podium weighbridge? It failed the dry weight test ,not minimum. You are not allowed to count fuel as ballast. So yes it failed dry weight test but had no advantage . Besides Piastri and Lewis on outright pace would have driven past Russell ,7/10ths a lap quicker at least . But track position and skillful driving kept both behind Russell and Norris behind Verstappen . Also Hamilton and Piastri had a 12 lap advantage on tyre offset.
@@nicholasholmes-siedle5119 If there is no advantage, why is there a rule?
DSQ.@@nicholasholmes-siedle5119
First of all they tested his car with fresh tires and it was still underweight so this is blatantly false about the weight differential being from his tires
4 other cars did a one stop and came in on weight. That means GR,s side of the garage cheated.
A lighter car has the performance advantage no matter how minute it is. Many a driver has been disqualified for a lesser infringement. The cars may have been within 500grams of each other but one car was obviously using fuel as ballast and that is illegal. Even if the performance advantage is minor it is magnified on a circuit where overtaking is difficult. The car must weigh 798kg after the fuel sample has been provided and it did not. Give f1 teams half an inch and they will take a mile. Remember they read rules and look at what has not been said and exploit it.
THE 1 STOP WAS ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF UNDERWEIGHT COMMON IT AFFECTS GRIP LEVELS AND GRAINING
Your caps is on.
@xannyofficial your caps is not
Why are you guys saying it was remarkable? Karun was never a good driver full stop....he is well spoken and a good knowledge of formula one but nothing else.
Karun was never in a semi competitive car let alone a competitive car so a bit of a harsh call to say that he was never a good driver! He was good enough to make it all the way to Formula One.
Nothing you said they said makes sense. It sounds like a carefully articulated lie to hide the fact that they were trying to undermine Lewis, who deserved the win 100%. Merc will be garbage to me as soon as Lewis leaves.
Blah blah blah......He weighed out. Its that simple. There are zero explanations needed. Good theory crafting and investigative reporting. The team failed a great performance from Russell. Look im not a Russell fan but i will say this. He ran a great race and drove really good to get there on one stop, I would never take that away from him. But the fact of the matter is this. The team screwed up and that happens. Move on.
The fact of the matter is Lewis asked the team if he could do a one stop before the race....they told him no.. what Russell did was in my opinion nothing at all special. Lewis complained they kept bringing him in with plenty left on his tyres.
@@TheNorville2Yeah. That was dodgy. They also didn't tell Lewis he was racing George so he couldn't manage his pace as he liked.
Also, there are many excuses made, they keep saying it was a team mistake but who knows if it was.
Why don't people consider it was a driver mistake as well? According to Mercedes Russell and Lewis were within 500 grams of each other. Well, if that's true then George may well have pushed too hard for the remaining tread and plank wear expected (both have been pointed to). That still leaves a kilogram he lost.
Also, what if he had a lighter car anyway? Not saying it was, but wouldn't that be a spectacular backfire?!
All this has took the shine off of a great performance by Lewis as well. One stop was obviously faster given George was P5 for most of that race. It's not like he was P1 or 2 with only a few seconds covering Lewis and George, Lewis led comfortably. A shame it's all moping for George.
Also Karun's point is annoying, other teams were at minimum weight plus they had fuel, minimum of one litre is needed for a sample too, so he's being disingenuous.
Also, that fuel Russell had meant he didn't need to lift and coast and ran rich the entire race. The rich part I saw on a forum so grain of salt needed. It's not just a case of he had fuel so he had no advantage, he could run flat out and that's without adding the performance advantages of using fuel as ballast such as COG benefits and balance.
Oh yeah, and Lewis had just set fastest laps, but then he was brought in. Just a bit later Russell's radio goes off about one stopping. That strategy was super risky too imo. Of Piastri was any faster past Leclerc Merc could have lost two wins in one day (assuming Oscar passed Lewis and George was DSQ). Something doesn't smell right at times...
Mercedes knows whats up.......they are not a team to speculate what went wrong and not only that why didnt they drain the fuel completely???? They tried to pull a fast one and got caught out.
10 kg make +-0,3 seconds difference in one lap. 1.5 kg makes +- 0.05s per lap = 2.2 seconds per race. Not much, he would have probably won the race but Piastri in 3rd place was just 1.1 seconds behind at the end of the race so you could argue George would finish 3rd if he wasn't underweight even doe Lewis was faster have cought him but couldn't pass him in last few laps. In this sport where the difference is mesured in 0.001s and 0.1 mm rules are rules and you have to aknowledge them.
Toto never show any joy for that 1, 2 finish for whatever reason.
They should have seen this coming. Team strategy error. No excuses.
Karun: bad on driving and also bad on comments. Russel was under weight the hole racing.
Will be interesting to see if Lewis objects to tire race strategy for now from mercedes
The trouble is you have to trust your team, they have all the data.
Lets not be silly Mercedes are not stupid, they know that the Fia would suss any infringement, to me this was a genuine mistake by Mercedes they didn't really expect George to be able to run the one stop strategy, but with the way things went they took a chance on a win that really wasnt realistic.
Mercedes brought 44 in, added 19s to his race, and still finished 0.5 of winner??
Yes obviously. Russels tires had almost twice as many laps on them as hamiltons did...
They were not Furious, the Team Lead knew it!___but anything for Netflix vibes
In fact they were surprisingly calm about it. They just admitted that they fucked up and moved on (as they should). No lamenting or being furious at all
If both cars are the same. The difference would be race strategy therefore common denominator is tire wear. Russel gambled and lost and victory wasn’t given it was earned by Lewis the race leader. Hamilton finished on hard tires also.
Friendly tip - if you show a paragraph of text on screen don't read the whole thing out word for word. It's very dull for the viewer who will have already finished the text by the time you're halfway through reading it all out. Silent reading is much faster than spoken reading.
I feel that mercedes was using george russell's car Fuel as balice( Allegedly), that's why he was always 2 tens faster than Hamilton and if you listen to the race they told Hamilton to lift and coast in the race because the was no safety car but didn't to Russell so he could drive at maximum speed which help him with the one stop( but was hard on the tyre, plus when fighting with Hamilton at the later stage of the race that helped Russell to stop Hamilton from overtaking looking at the F1 lap times Russell was faster in a Straight line and Hamilton was faster in the rest of the track. plus it was so Peculiar, that Russell, When he got weighed at the end of the race, he was saying, what is my weight? What is my weight? to the young lady? from mercedes
just watch the race ending on sky f1 if they don't edit it out. We will have to see what happens in the next few races to see if his pace is different, anyway Hamilton only has a few more races with mercedes Then everyone will be going red and price crash at mercedes if they don't get verstappen 😂
They tried to swing one over Lewis but happily Karma intervened n their plan backfired. Ha ha.
Sorry, what was the "NEW" breaking evidence?
And how did this extended for 10 minutes with the same information?
Another video that says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about this topic. The matter was solved and moved on in a matter of hours.
We all need to stop clicking on these links and watch proper F1 channels.
Complete waste of time.
Chandra is a low rate expert and former driver. All cars suffered same degradation including not able to pick up marbles cool down lap. MB cheated!!
Karun is known for always going against Lewis. At this point its pathetic. Asking Karuns opinion is the equivalent of asking Max’s girlfriend what she thinks of Lewis.
That's what happens when you cheat. Karun is number one Lewis hater.
No his just not a fanboy
@@pietervanbreda4360He a fanboy of Max Verstappen. 😂
The underweight wasn't the only illegal thing that would have George disqualified, his plankwear was too big because of running low to the ground, thereby gaining more downforce.
Merc gambled, and they lost points big time..
That Hamilton guy was actually driving a lot lot better so Mercedes knowing Hamilton is leaving for Ferrari desperately trying to make George match Hamilton on paper but that Hamilton has been too fast and too strong
Surely if Mercedes could have changed the tyres to the mediums taken off at the one pitstop that would have been over the weight, identical cars dont have different weights so how come the discrepancy?
Simple test , just weight George and Lewis last set of tyres and see what's the difference .
What they’re not saying in this video is that the car was weighed twice. The second time, weighing the tires separately. If the tires were the problem, why hasn’t anyone talked about the tire weight vs Sir Lewis. Asking for a friend who believes that Mercedes is a George centric team since he came over from Williams as Toto’s golden child.
@@jonathanscott5252 Toto is in love with Lewis come on! Just seen his face after George's win :D
Karun like the rest of them just full a do-do. His input concerning this matter is insignificant period.
All cars where weight after the race. It was a clear cheating exercise and Mercedes knew it. Therfore they left a bit more liquid in the tank during the first weight contoll. It was only clear after the second check when the tank was completly empty. Toto said it was a mistake. Yes ofcourse when in F1 you have got every little data accurately. Ho want could believe that?
So how did they have exactly the same weight after qualifying and was kept by Fia till just before the race, please explain did the FIA sabotage his car under lock up.
What nonsense Karun talks. No performance advantage he says! If Chandok doesn't understand that its no wonder he could only buy drives. Merc knew at the end of the race what was going on. Rightfully George wasn't good enough and needed to stop and maybe finish 6th where he belonged. He deserved and got disqualified. Listening to the tripe Merc put out for cheating tells you the quality of people employed there.
Finally, why nobody talking about Lewis's radio comm....WHAT IS LOSE AND MOVING BY HIS PADALs!!!
Who left a golf ball there...lucky he didn't crash!!! Driving on edge of limit and concentration with moving object by your pedals!!!!!
So why russel is the only one stop strategy driver being disqualified..?
Because Merc run it at the edge of the weight limit and Russel pit stopped much earlier than Aston's, thus ran more laps on second set of tires.
He was the only one to do a one stopper. The disqualification wasn’t because of doing a one stopper, it was because of being under the allowed weight at end of a race!
I don’t this Russell should have won because this team gave him a 20 second leap on Lewis witch is crazy.that race belongs to Lewis he did everything right.
Maybe the FIA can have Pirelle make them some weighing tires. Tires with a known weight that are used when weighing the car. Thus eliminating the guess work.
Wheels and balance weights are all different. They would have to fit tyres to rims.
@robertwilson8365 Rims are all supposed to be standardized now. The tires would not need to be balanced if they are listed as "Push Only." Each team could have a set.
There is no guess work. There is competence and incompetence and cheating.
Don't overlook the value of reduced weight for qualifications. How close to those end up sometimes?
if it was a genuine mistake they wouldnt have tried to pulll a sketchy move to get away with it by not removing fuel
Agree.
The question is not what happened. We all know what happened. The question is why did it happen ? i.e. team strategy error.
That is the most idiotic statement ever!
The car would be never under minimum weight because of the fuel, the cars are weighed empty, so if the car 1.5 KG at weight in the once you put the fuel in it is still going to be lighter then ever other car on the track !!!
The marble argument is moronic as well ,look
These teams have been at this a long time! And these mistake just don’t happen! Unless they want to!
The plank argument is stupid as well because the car is LIGHTER means bouncing less which means less plank degradation!
When George won the race and Mercedes finished 1 and 2 and BAM The camera goes to Toto he is stoned faced, panicked white as a ghost because he knew then George’s car would be checked and they would be caught CHEATING!
I Don’T a DQ is enough the whole team should face a pole position penalty!
Karun is a wannabe has been who I don't listen to anymore because of his bias analysis.
No he is one of the only Brits that's not bias
Croft is pathetically biased
Ok that leads into Mercedes try cheating for 3 years and Lewis doesn't like cheating so they sabotage Lewis hamilton
Karun is telling a flat out lie 😂. The rules are the rules for a reason. Time to move on. George didn’t even win anyways . Lewis drove a flawless race and his team screwed him again and made him pit when he said he didn’t need to pit.
Can’t they weigh the cars without the tyres before and after and separately weigh the tyres
Thats why we have rules, what does the rules say? under weight? penalize, nothing else matters
It matters why...
The 1.5 kg loss of weight might have been avoided if George didn't race Lewis for the win during the last 10 laps or so. If George just let Lewis or even Oscar through his tires would not be subject to the high amount of degradation. George may not be aware of the loss of weight during the heat of the race but his team should with all the telemetry data available. Toto's rather weird expression on seeing the 1-2 finish just speaks it all. Anyway this is not a race for George to win.
Find it crazy how people make out George drove brilliantly and deserved the win...he was nowhere for most of the race. That was not his race to win.
FIA should have had newer tyres fitted to the car and reweight
The new that why they left fuel in the car before it eas weighed
Make you wonder why GR qualifying pace is such a
Shovlin lies. Lewis and George's car was the same weight with some fuel in Georges fuel tank. That caused the difference and they knew it.
Yes agree they know in the garage what they do 😂
Scrutenearing pick apart the first six at every race to prevent fast ones ,in the past alsorts of slight of hand done to reduce the dry weight.
Or weigh al the cars whitout the fuel.
Sure, George's car had a full fuel load at the start, BUT so did everyone else & he was lighter.
They were trying lighter parts and didn't expect to win, George may have used more fuel on his changed strategy, 1.5kg is about a litre and a half which I imagine is easily saved in the slow run down through the pit lane. What the aren't saying is just how close Hamiltons cars was to the weight limit at the end if they both started the same. They're not the first to be caught out doing illegal stuff and won't be the last, they were just unfortunate this weekend.
The question of would a tyre change have made the difference is pointless because he would not have won the race if he had. It was the staying out and track position achieved by that which had him cross the line first, oh, and his great driving it has to be said. And that is coming from someone who is not a George fan at the best of times
And the first 5 drivers would have have beaten George if they had one stopped and didn't worry about min weight. So Georges drive wasn't anything special because he didn't follow the rules.
Why don't we hear about the other part, you know, the FIA. They don't make videos?
Obviously they used a lighter fuel in Russel’s car🙄🏁
KARMA, wasn't George's race to win, 10 points are better than Disqual'could make the difference at the end of the season.
Did I miss something? Where was the Betrayal was Georgie betrayed?
Wait until they can't use the brake system that the fia have ruled out for the rest of year 😂
That's Red Bull.
@@robinfoster7597 it's not where are you getting red bull from on this note fia said a team that have come up from the pack that is not red bull
Why is the car weighed dry? Did it run on electric?
He was legal till end of race.
the ones who said they are "cheating completely dont understand engineering.
the only "cheating" possible is having george turn up his engine mode to "party mode". the maximum fuel richness. and that could make his car benefit against ALL the other cars are NOT in their maximum mode. what are the chances of that happening? they all want to win. you are saying george the only one using the max engine mode?
also, there is nothing saying its a crime to use max engine mode in race day. so is it "cheating" if that is in fact the case?
what could happen is, there is a clause in the FIA rule that the stewards may SWAP the tyre being weigh along with the car with one or more provided by the steward themselves if they deem the available tyres attached to the car is not by standards or missing one or even more. this provide a "plot twist", what if the steward were determined to make sure george car is BELOW limit? especially if they saw the weight with george's original tyre sets are just ounces above the limit? "hey do we still have that worse sets of tyre? put 3 in and swap 3 of his with it". and then voila! BELOW limit.
I have read some where that the second weigh is always whit tyres from the fia.
Put new tyres on the car weigh it simple
George forgot breakfast. Clearly.
HUUM! IF HE'S NOT AN ENGINEER! NONE OF HIS ARGUMENTS HAS'NT ANY CREDIBILITY!!
Guys just move on. The team made a mistake with their strategy with Russell and got disqualified for it. Tbh I'm not sure if they were cheating or gambling but I personally think it was an error so just move on. If anything, you guys are free to corrrect me. I would appreciate that
That was not a remarkable one-stop strategy, but rather a cheating strategy failure.
The team favour Hamilton over Russell all the time you know this from totos reaction when Russell beats Hamilton which has been most of the season but they should remember it's not Russell leaving at the end of the season George has been there best driver over the last 3 years get it sorted toto
Was u there?
Do u have all the facts?
So what r u talking about!
F1 Fan Since 1976 well b 4 u were born!
They are all intentionally right on the edge of the rules. This sucks for Russell but you want to drive for a Team pushing the margins to win.
I'm rooting for Russell now!!!
Fuck George Russell, and fuck Mercedes! The idea that they would shaft their own teammate who led the entirety of the race while Russell wasn’t even competing for a fucking podium is disgusting. Russell was competing for six and seven place what he did was not amazing. Everyone said the tires were great.
Good luck.
Russell didn’t stop so they couldn’t add the ballast back to make minimum weight…😮
This one is nasty.😮
If they catch u whit this. Then you have a very big problem.
@@martijnborst8206 When you add the fact that Alonso & Stroll *BOTH* did 30+ laps on the Hard compound tire to
finish the race then Merc starts to look shady AF!!!🤔😳
@@TheBOOSTEDOyes it is starting to look very shady. But i can't imagin that hamilton accepts this kind of cheating from the team.
How many times have these strange events happened to only car 44???
Answer: too many times!!! Once he started the restart all by himself. Rain. Everyone changed tyres after a spin off...1 lap after restart...BOX BOX BOX, 19 seconds added to his race...= lost A SURE WIN!!!
British commentators only🤣🤣
Well, Why ONLY Mercedes has that problem and none of the other teams? Thats the question you need to ask. And if rules are broken even there always follows a punishment. Disqualification.
But this counts for all the teams. Dissobey the rules and if you have bad luck you get a strike or punishment for it, it's that simpel.
And Mercedes could known this from the start. But they bet on it that it would not happen or noticed. They lost the bet.....
Weight DOES matter, especially 1.5kg could win tenths.
Mercedes and Russell were playing it ok, it was just of their stupid engineers that fouled the whole up!🤬🤬🤬 Grrr...I hope he/she gets the sack!!
They will use a Indian ex F1 driver who have never won a race 😂 excuse after excuse
King George 1 stop failure was not remarkable no other team in the top 6 went 4 a 1 stop! More propaganda instead of facts!
FIA easily realized their verdict on Mercedes fault, but we back to Abu Dhabi racing during championship last 2021, do don't even finalized the official who made mistake and fraud, it's not fair at all.
Redbull team always cheating every racing but like wise theybegnore delayed those cheating , it takes too many observation and investigation to released a verdict, it seems the official of FIA had a favoritism, that's a full fuck at all.
First of all:
They weighed the car. It was underweight. That's a clear DQ, there is no room for interpretation here. There IS nothing to investigate.
Secondly:
It's been almost 3 YEARS!!!! Can we please stop talking about Abu Dhabi 2021. Yeah waht happened was not right, but 3 FUCKING YEARS.
Also, I assume you meant to say they didn't even penalize the official who mad the mistake... Masi got fired. Idk that seems like a penatly to me...
So everyone else knew that except Mercedes. You must like fairytales. Look at Wolff after the race compared to the previous one. He already knew. Just not if they would get sprung. They decided to wing it for a 1,2 . They're trying to attract Verstappen to Mercedes.
I think i now wats going on. They aimend for 2 cars in the top 5 . Only Max was stuck in traffic, Piastri is not fast enough, farrari is not fast enough in the race. There was nobody in neigberhood how could win. They made a calculation error.
The howl tyre excuse is bull shit. What is if you are number one in your wiliams efferybody has pitted, except u. The race ends becaus of someting at more then 75% off the race distance. Youre car must weigh more then the min whitout fuel.
Karun the head phone head noob
It is obviously very annoying to some Russell and Mercedes haters that Russell could pull it off, and it has to feel like an answer to someone's prayers that the car was underrweight... but don't feast too much - there is much more brilliance to come from Russell.
Mercedes getting exposed with sabotage gimmicks
@@Maruman_man Sabotage?... you are delusional mate!
@@janengelbrecht they tried to trick the FIA by leaving fuel in the car during weighing...busted....tire strategy forced 2 stop on Hamilton race leader and gimmick sabotage one stop for russell to win ahead of the guy who had led the race from lap 4...failed..get your brain cleaned...
Russell has never been known for being a tire master.
Russell is a brilliant driver yes, but because the car was *_underweight,_* not *_overweight,_* he gained more than half a tenth per lap, which means he gained a total of more than 2.2 seconds throughout the race, which in turn puts him more than half a second behind Piastri in the finishing result. Add to that the fact that they were slowed down by Russell going slow and if the overtake was done before it reached the final lap, he might've been even further behind.
The reason Lewis and Charles were keeping up with Max's RB19 at CotA last year was because their car's were illegally lowered. That doesn't make them any less brilliant but fact is that they wouldn't have come so close to Maxiepads otherwise.
If hes an expert so sm i 2021.. nothing to say
The car must be a certain weight when empty.... And it wasn't empty so actually they should both be disqualified.
The other car was weighed and found to comply with the rules.
I still think its the 1 stop that caused it. All that extra rubber discarded by 20 lap older tyres.
No cheating, just an unfortunate miscalculation
Yeah right. Missed the huge red flashing warning sign on the laptop. They knew.
WE ARE NOT STUPID. THERE ARE RULES IN ANY SPORT. GLORIFYING HOW GREAT AND BRILLIANT SOMEONE IS. IT IS STILL MAKES YOU IRRELEVANT AND A CHEATER. SIMPLE AS THAT. 1.5 kgs loss of chunks of rubber and planks. PROVE IT!! IT should be MYTHBUSTERS LEVELS. TH-cam LIPFLAPPIMG is not going to change anything CHEATER.
A mercedes é prejudicada com Jorge Russell
Mercedes and cheating 😂😂. When it was Red Bull cheating then there where a lot more comments about it!!! This is typical British they are never fair!!
Did he pee 1.5 killo of water lol
All this tire talk and picking up rubber talk is a load of crap noting realistically explains that weight loss and performance because a cheat was employed
India ka naam duba rha hai Karun Chandhok, illogical baatein.
Obviously, Gerorge was SABOTAGED. if that will be the case, best to move to another team.