The Origins of King Arthur's Legend
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- For centuries people have looked for King Arthur and his knights of the round table in history. John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place looks at the origin of the legend, which was an almost instantaneous blockbuster sensation after the publication of Geoffrey of Monmouth’s “History of the Kings of Britain” in 1136.
I really enjoy these videos. I prefer the ones that have fewer interruptions. That woman really loves to hear herself talk.
This guy is like a real life Daniel Jackson -- his mannerisms, chuckles, and depth of historical knowledge are spot-on.
you think. he is very good but spot on? gtf
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@@thomasferguson3061 Then watch something else.
You're right. Can't believe I never noticed it before. Have to wonder if John is aware of the character.
When he says he's originally from Minnesota, I remembered some trivia about one version of Daniel (James Spader's?) speaking with a Minnesotan accent. It's almost uncanny.
Great franchise and great channel!
Lectures are great, but it’d be nice if the audience members could shut up and save their questions and comments for the end.
Thank you again John Hamer. I enjoy your lectures very much.
i also enjoy fairy tales
It'd be awesome to have a lecture dedicated to Crusades ... really great lecture again! Thank you
He has one from the Mid East/Muslim/Byzantine perspective and it’s excellent!
Islamic* (I think)
John you are THE MAN! Love your lectures
Thank you
This was excellent. I look forward to the conversations.
Love these lectures, thanks a lot
We knew King Arthur was a legend, but oh what fun traveling through John Hamer's lecture with his signature laugh along with a sprinkling of ironic modern day references. Thank you!
It is very rare that one captivates one's audience he does. Very interesting! Thanks be than to him.
Thank you for allowing us to see the lessons
an excellent presentation , very well done ,,, I have always found it interesting that Arthur is mentioned in the Poem " The Gododdin " , added to this quote from Lambert de St. Omer who was a Benedictine chronicler and abbot lauded for his great learning , in 1120 "" There is a palace of Arthur the Soldier , in Britain , in the land of the Picts , built with various and wondrous art , in which the deeds of all his acts and wars are seen to be sculpted "" ... makes you wonder , did Arthur come from what we now know as Lowland Scotland and his people were the Gododdin ??? , a good read is " ARTHUR OF THE GODODDIN " , be well all , Michael
Eleanor of Aquitaine was granddaughter of Guilhem de Peitius, the first recognized troubadour, who was in campaigns in Spain and brought back musicians from Spain.
The Gorlois story has some parallels to the Alcmene story of the birth of Heracles.
Thank you, as always, for this interesting presentation. Sorry I wasn't able to join live.
Geoffrey of Monmouth with a story that went viral. I grew up near Caerleon, S Wales - Isca Silurium legionary fort. The Ampitheatre remains got claimed generations back as the round table site. So the quicky shops try to play off the Arthurian legends, though I was more interested in the Roman stuff - but then the bathhouse complex was being excavated in my childhood.
Geoffrey was inspired by the deeds of the Breton general Alan Rufus who witnessed Monmouth Priory’s foundation charter.
Alan was of eminent Welsh, Cornish, Roman and Iranian descent.
I grew up in Cornwall. They have a Camelot there too
The lecturer is incredible, wish I'd had any like him! And I went to a great NE-elite academic school 🙃
Are we sure the two naked figure aren't Romulus and Remus and not "Adam and Steve"? Especially considering there is a figure of a wolf next to them.
Ambrosius was real. He was a Romano-British leader in the 5th century. He has battle success against non-British invaders (e.g saxons, angles, jutes). He may be the same as (and I’m sure I spelling it wrong) Riothamus who is documented also at the same time. Riothamus might just be a title. Where does Arthur fit in here ? Maybe be a war leader successor to Ambrosius/Riothamus just before the proto-english get the the upper hand and start to ascend. Anyways…this is where I like the Arthurian stories to be placed.
I love all of these lectures!
a field azure three crowns or is also the arms of East Anglia.
Example of how past stories CAN resonate and apply to later times......the American Revolutionary war and it's heroes are extraordinarily relevant today. Big brains can do better but never really do and this presentation is a good example.
John Boorman's Excalibur is great.
Did this guy really just say if the historical figure doesn't match the Story than we throw away the historical figure?! Atleast that's what It sounded like! What sort of experts are these people? There is plenty of evidence for the real Arthur being Arthwys Ap Meurig of Glamorgan and Gwent in the 6th century. From cross bearing his name to battle sites appearing on old OS maps of Wales. And ofcourse to statues. Experts can't find him, cause they don't want to find him. For example he used the old French for Graal, when you should use the original term and its meaning. A Grail in old Welsh meant a document! Not a cup. The French and English academics really have done a number on Britain's greatest ever Monarch and his lineage, which didn't die out until Iestyn Ap Gwrgan of Glamorgan in the 11th century. As for chivalry, it wasn't a 6th century thing because no one but the Britons practiced it. But no...The Welsh can't have created anything. If a Welshman puts a brick onto another brick, he's told he's built a Roman Wall. Academia's position is anything the Welsh claim is myth. Its a blatant denial of genuine history. These i might add are the same academics that will use the term British when describing pre Tudor English monarchs. Even though they never saw themselves as British. Default position when dealing with these people should always be opposite of what you're being told.
totally agree. these people are not experts, just have a brass neck.
Definatly not experts in fact they have not got a clue, sheep just following the conspiracy mate
everytime he says courtley love I think cortney love
Why do you allow so many silly interruptions from your students. Why not have questions and comment at the end?
OMG, they drive me nuts. Why can't they just write down their comments and questions and have the discipline to wait til the end of the lecture?
Of interesting note, both King Charles III and Prince William have the name Arthur as a middle name! Keeping the iconic legend alive! However Prince George doesn't have the middle name Arthur! I guess he could add it on later? Charles and William have four names, George only three! Love the film "Excalibur" and saw the musical Camelot on Broadway in the early 1960s! The Kennedy administration was referred to as "Camelot" because the late beautiful inside and out Jaqueline Kennedy Onassis said the president liked to listen to that song at night before he went to sleep! Thanks for a great video and sharing more of that history and legend that lives on!
Fill a buster hilarious great presentation enjoyed it thoroughly thank you
I pray you stay blessed I enjoy your channel
Your audiences are always so smart, John/Leandro.
As to the question of historicity: I doubt historicity of a book that says: "I got this story form such and such source" when that source is unverifiable and probably made up. It's an old literary trope. Don Quijote is not by Cervantes, but some guy named Hamet Ben Engali. Marco Polo wasn't written by Marco Polo but was from his jailer who took the story from him...etc, etc. It goes to what I call the problem of belief. It creates a little distance from the author to the story, but they still say it's true. Any time you see that structure, assume it is literature you are reading and not history.
One thing about Arthur's legend, in particular about Guinevere her relationship with Lancelot and Mordred, that I remember reading that doesn't come up often is that (partly because most marriages were political arraignments) men and at least some women used to take lovers but because this wasn't considered acceptable (especially for women) the story was changed so Guinevere taking a lover caused the end of Arthurs kingdom as well as to hiding such relationships as "courtly love".
Great stuff. Thank you.
Interesting, all of Arthur's legend occurs just prior to the darkness of The Year Without Summer. In creating that myth, are we remembering the past through a dark lens, looking for some sort of lost innocence we never owned.
My favorite Aurthur legend Hollywood movie is "The Mists of Avalon". It tells the story from the viewpoint of the women involved. Angelica Huston is the lead.
Haven't seen the movie, but I did enjoy the book
T.H. White is best.
The author turned out be an abusive sex offender, sadly.
@@honoriswithin No. He was sexially offended in his youth. And he was a heavy drinker. And a great poet.
@@hansberger4939 T.H. White wrote the Once and Future King. We're talking about Marion Zimmer Bradley, the author of the Mists of Avalon
Great video. Verry interesting. I love it.
John Hamer rocks!
Possible minor correction: the Scoti were not simply a tribal group from Ireland that settled the SW of Scotland before eventually dominating it, as the popular hypothesis goes.
The true etymology of the word is unclear, and the term was initially used to refer to all Gaels (i.e., all natives of the British Isles at the time) rather than a specific tribe, before only later denoting Gaels of northern Britain.
However, the term (or its variant, Scotti) varies in which group of people (or even what kind of people) it refers to, depending on the historical period and author of sources using it.
All that said, it's clear that whatever its origin or meaning(s), 'Scoti' is the root of 'Scotland' and its derivatives ('Scot', 'Scottish' and possibly others).
I'm not an expert by any means so could well be mistaken myself, but it's worth mentioning for anyone interested in such things. Regardless, great work from John and Centre Place as always.
There's nothing like an American dismantling British myths and folklore.
The birth narrative for Arthur,
…is the same as the birth narrative for Hercules,
..it is just saying Arthur is a demi-god like Hercules.
The Round Table is round with 12 knights because it was a zodiac,
…it is said to have been based upon the design of the Last Supper table,
…so the Last Supper table was a zodiac, with 12 disciple-knights,
…just like the Jewish Hamat Teverya zodiac on Lake Galilee,
…with 12 constellations,
..so the primary symbol of early Judaism was the zodiac.
Offa’s Dyke was originally built by Emperor Septimus Severus, in the early 3rd century.
…it was named after the Greek for a snake.
Excalibur was named after the Aramaic for a ‘sword’.
…most of Arthurian names were Aramaic (or Chaldean),
…and are said to be Chaldean in the original Latin manuscripts,
…because this story came from the Near East.
Uther was NOT called Pendragon.
In the Welsh (and Latin) manuscripts he is called Uther ben Dragon (separate words),
This is not Welsh, it is Aramaic, meaning Uther son of Fish,
….meaning Uther son of Pisces,
…many names in Arthurian legend are said to be Chaldean (Aramaic)
…hence the famous line of Arthurian Fisher Kings,
..the first being Jesus, the Fisher of Men,
…with the symbol of Christianity being the Fish.
Where is the earliest statue of King Arthur?
…again, it is in Italy, on the 12th century doorway of Modena Cathedral,
…because this is a Crusader/Templar story.
Geoffrey of Monmouth and Walter of Oxford, said they,
…got the Arthur text and story from Normandy/Brittany.
…the Oxford version is more prosaic and historical.
See book: The Grail Cypher
Ralph
I understand that Dagon = fish, but how does Dagon connect with dragon besides similarity of words ?
Mary Stewart's massively popular trilogy "Crystal Cave" was set in 6th century Briton, and Arthur puulled the sword from the stone as a boy.. And you're leaving out the Languedocian connections.
Just to make it simple, in my tradition many ruler have been called as "zmaj ognjeni"( Fire Dragon) and many others have been called Dragons ( they are special people who have like divine powers, and to be a Dragon you need to be born with the power) Only two ways are possible to be dragon 1. You need to be child born from witch and the father need to be greatest worrier and hero 2. When a child is born (if the baby came out in this "baloon" that is the remark or sing that this is Dragon child he is going to be something special!!! And one more thing in my country in the past we have created Order of the dragon knights, like today elite special forces ĺ,who are trained whole life from childhood to be a warrior ( to be clear this order is not created at the beginning of 15 century he is at least minimal 200 years older) those ruling houses have on the insignia a dragon picture who have bitten his own tail!!! About sword and lady of the lake, in the old tradition if someone attacked your lands ,you need to fight, but the attacker have great force stronger than you, like Roman's or Mongols!! When my prince have gone to war against tatars were the tatars have much more than we but it doesn't matter if you going to lose because theoretically the aggressor attacks you with tree time larger army, but you need to stop them to fight them and you have 2 options fight to win or fight to die!!! Despot Stefan Lazarevic have won on the battle field and he have pushed them back to Asia!!! At returning back from small Asia they have crossed over the bridge and on our side when all soldiers were on our side our prince have done one ritual!!! He have talked his sword and spear (speer has been braked and sword have been dented over the knee) They have make a prayer and after he have throw broken spear an sword in the river!!! This broken bloody weapons need to barrier for the opponents if they try again to attack us they are not going to be able to cross the river it's like a magic, on the weapons is their blood and the sword have brought them dead and fear, and they have become some sort of energy ,full of fear from tatars!!! I suppose that Excalibur was given to me Lady of the sea so that the Roman legions do not cross over the lake!!! Excalibur need to be divine weapon ,our enemies need to have fear when someone says name of excalibur not to see only to listen this name they are going to become panicked!!! And the druids ( if I read it like "DRVIDI" , drvo means tree and vidi means to see) in my tradition we have some trees witch are holy and they are on the sacred place!!! Our believe is that in Beech trees living the soles or something else!!! We still have beaches which are ca 800 years old and we call them "drvo zapis' like marking tree!!! Every village have this kind of tree and the people have been gathered there but the tree was always in the middle, they have danced in circle (Kolo ) by the tree ,if was war and difficult time they have preyed our ancestors for protection and for help I don't know where is the Camelot but funny thing is that we have one mountain called Avala near Belgrade!! Sorry for mistakes in text my English is poor!
WOW! You did very well in English. Thank you for your long detailed legend.
Smisao tvoje price meni izgleda da ti hoces reci da je "Kralj Arthur" i njegov Camelot bio u tadasnjoj Srbiji.
Ne. Srbi su, kao i svi ostali, uzeli u to vrijeme poznatu bajku, napisanu od Geoffrey of Monmouth i ispredali pricu kako njima odgovara.
Vidis, nije bilo potrebe da objasnis realnost pisuci 2 miliona rijeci. Sve se objasni u par recenica.
Svejedno, lijepo je kad netko to sve zna i napise, samo problem je motiv.
@@danijel3227 In English?
@@danijel3227 ovo sto sam pisao nema veze sa bajkom nego sa tradicionalnim predanjem koje je jos zivo u narodu, nazalost sve manje, drugo uopste mi nije bila pomisao niti sam napisao da je kamelot u srbiji nego samu vezu o narodnom predanju, na primer kod iraca i nas se mitologija bukvalno poklapa , u svakom slucaju je zanimljivo da imamo planinu pod tim imenom!! Svako dobro
@@gandrazmaj8137 Hm, to "tradicionalno predanje" se po tvojoj prici veze na knjigu koja nema veze s stvarnoscu nista vise nego Harry Potter, s toga to je "bajka"...(vise, manje su sve te price ionako bajkovite.)
Drugo, napisao sam da cijenim kad netko ima znanje pa moze te sve stvari usporediti i napisati.
Trece, ako sam krivo shvatio tvoju poantu o stvarnoj lokaciji Camelota, ispricavam se.
Very good one. Narrative as you point out is important and has its place; we should not dissect it to find facts.
Very entertaining this presentation was but (intentionally) limited is an understatement.
The ' throwing the sword to the Lady of the Lake" motif is found first attached to the legend of the Scythic BATRAZ, or ' BUDDHA-RISHI
So did the story's author influence Cervantes' Don Quixote? Cervantes also has the story given by another author and translated.
I was having a lot of communication with a friend of mine who had reams of paper after going through over 2,000 years looking into the person and personage. In Britain I know the person of Robin Hood is in the same type of thing. There wasn't one Robin Hood but like the Scar Face type of names being used by criminals they all claimed it was theirs. He showed me a few things but was fascinating when I was telling him about a Blue Sword that had been usurped by a government in exile from Egypt. The Sword could cut through anything including steel. He took down what the name of the author and his book. He said like this weapon how something so little could become something of a mythology but history as well.
Good show
Quite an illustration-heavy one.
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Thank you very much for this presentation. I would remark: If it is a complete fabrication people claim that it is true. But if it is based in reality you make a point of stating that it is a work of fiction and any similarities to real events or people is purely accidental and unintended. What does this tell us about our modern society?
Merlin taking the baby Arthur reminds me of Obi-wan taking the baby Luke.
The whole story arc of star wars has heavy hints of Arthurian legend
Three of the dukes of Brittany were called Arthur.
The best - known is "Little Arthur", the unfortunate nephew of Bad King John.
Other dukes were called Conan.
Alan was also a popular name.
Yes. The names Arthur and Uther occur as 9th century charter witnesses in the Cartulary of Redon in Brittany: it is a massive collation of legal documents. It may be the ‘ancient book’ Geoffrey of Monmouth cites.
Was it ever a rare name?
Even bbc is making the series of today royals
An invention
Is not the uncertainty about the 'real Arthur' the strength of the story not it's weakness. With no factual Arthur that the historians can find successive generations of authors can reinvent Arthur to meet the needs of their own times.
at the beginning....who are those two on the left....looks like there's a wolf there too and seeing how this is in Italy could it not be Romulus et Remus?
Arthur is an historical figure, the king of Glamorgan and Gwent, there are copious records, despite this 'myth' that floats around. Arthur was a British king (Welsh) not English and thus was wiped. The Welsh taught the history of Arthur up to 1922 as a simple matter of fact, however the English replaced the entire school curriculum and Arthur's history was lost. I have an original Welsh schoolbook from 1908 which covers the history as simple fact. SE Wales has more Arthur references and places than you can shake a stick at, the Saints and other kings contemporary to Arthur and Arthur himself are all over SE Wales. This is not a mystery. His actual history is way more interesting than the sword in the stone/grail stuff, the actual history is just amazing.
Hey just curious why did you use the same cover picture for Charlemagne video
Durandal, the sword of Roland, is pretty famous.
It's pronounced Tin-Tadg-el
Arthur's adventures in Gaul seem to recall the career of the historical British emperor Magnus Maximus.
Arthur's kinsman Constantine might refer to another British emperor, Constantine III (407 - 11).
The first Arthur was a Nephew or potentially a cousin under Magnus, his direct descendant in the 6th century was the second known to be Arthur. Arthwys Ap Muerig.
Kind Arthur is a mystery school myth no different from Osiris Odin Mithras innana Perseus Orpheus Dionysus and of course Jesus.
Sometimes James the sixth was called "little Arthur".
No......Achilles was not "Worthy" because he was NOT moral. He was not a virtuous warrior. Achilles killed for his reputation, his purpose was self glory and self preservation unlike Hector's purpose was to protect and preserve his people. Like I said, this presentation is entertainment, not much else.
the 1v100 just make it look like a battle royale game
Maybe Clovis' eldest son didn't die at childbirth?
And they hid him away on the distant Isles to protect him from royal European intrigues?
Their wisest old sage and the most-trusted nanny carry him off to Offa's grampa's court, where he's raised as a blacksmith commoner who becomes a king? And he forges his own sword, from stone to steel, dipping it in and out of the lakewater to seal its temper. Interesting timing on all of this, too.
This is a true story. Because stories are fictional, the fact that it is true fiction would be an accurate statement. This is how "they" do operate...
The scotii where, I was led to believe banished from Ireland for being too warlike. That's one version. My Irish friend used to claim that it was actually a dispute over the copying of religious texts, along the lines of the book of Kells. Either way I'm fairly certain they were kicked out of Ireland as opposed to slowly drifted over. Idk.
Some heresies about Arthurian Legend for you.
a. There is no mention of the Arthur story before Monmouth and Oxford in 1135. Gildas, Bede and others do not mention King Arthur, let alone the rest of the legend.
b. The great hero of Arthurian Legend is Joseph(us) of Arimathaea, who is said to have been a knight working for Commander (Emperor) Vespasian.
c. Several of the manuscripts (especially in the Vulgate Cycle), say that Arthurian Legend was written by Josephus Flavius in the 1st century.
Troubling, eh?
The answer to all this can be seen in that Arthurian Legend only appears with Monmouth and Oxford, after Crusaders and Templars arrived back in Europe from the Crusades. And note that the First Crusade went to Antioch-Edessa, Beyond the Euphrates, before it went to Jerusalem.
What is the connection here?
The Answer is that the Crusaders knew there were gospel secrets in Edessa, that had remained hidden behind the velvet veil of the Council of Chalcedon and the iron curtain of lslam, ever since the 5th and 8th centuries. That is why Eschenbach’s Parsival starts its Arthur story in Mesopotamia under King Barus (King Agbarus, the 1st century of Edessa). That is why High History says that Perceval was the nephew of the gospels’ Nicodemus. That is why Perceval’s father owned the donkey that had belonged to the gospel Nicodemus.
All very troubling, eh?
The answer is that Arthurian Legend is actually a secular gospel, about the historical Jesus as a real, secular, 1st century king of Edessa. But it was dressed up as a 5th or 6th century story of Britain, to evade Church censors (and Church funerary pyres). In reality the Galles (the Welsh) refers to the Eunuch Galli priests of Galilee and Syria. Which is why Jesus asked for his disciples to become eunuchs in Math 19:12.
That is why Simon was called Peter-Kephas, the stone, because the Holy Grail of Arthurian legend was a sacred stone - the sacred omphalos-elagabal stone of the Galli priests of Syria. The stone that Scottish Templars claim they still possess x the Stone if Scone.
There is much more to this story than meets the eye.
See the book ‘The Grail Cypher’
Why no King Jesus in the line-up of the nine famous king-knights?
…well he is there - he is called King Arthur.
Ralph Ellis
Interesting, thanks!
Alan Wilson and baram Blackett are real historians with over 50 years of experience they are the ones to focus on what is it with Americans and English thinking king Arthur was a English king even though his symbol was ddraig goch red dragon on his chest which is a clue that he's not English for gods sake he's welsh/cymru red dragon welsh vs white dragon English very simple 😁
Spot on
Your comments about Josephus and Christians inserting Jesus into his work is an oversimplification and misleading. While most scholars do agree there has been editing, by no means is it clear that Jesus was inserted by Christians and most scholarly opinion agrees that Jesus as a historical figure is corroborated by the reference to James brother of Jesus. 😂
You should check out more of John's lectures 😂
What!? No mention of The Sword of San Galgano?
I wonder if this Aschillius of Dacia might have been added to the story to play the part of the typical "barbaric" character from somewhere in the East, who is a heathen or heretic of sorts (muslim or easter orthodox or other), but fighting for the right cause, along with the good guys. Similar characters can be found in other stories of that period.
This is true.
Love the shout-out to he-man XD
The word knight as we know it did not exist in the supposed time of King Arthur. The word knight from the Germanic was knecht with meant "boy" or "servant". He may have had soldiers that were close to him, but they could not be called knights. Chivalry was from the French. But it was not until the Crusades that came about the concept of warrior knights.
So the legend of King Arthur has its roots in early Christian Roman Briton. The "round table" is a code for the Eucharist host served at the table of the Lord. So they were not soldiers but servants of Christ. They were seeking the Holy Grail, which was not the chalice of blood, but that the wine turns to blood at the Eucharist. So they were passing the communion cup.
The name Arthur is from Artorius, the Roman clan name that meant "noble" or "courageous". This legend is just Christian symbolism, as Rex means king, so Rex Artorius means Noble King, which Jesus is referred to as The King of Glory.
Remember, western Christianity was Roman Catholicism. These men were priests, not soldiers.
where to start. the roman knights were those who formed the cavalry, well before the crusades. France was not a country at the supposed time of Arthur. you can be a soldier and a servant of Christ, e.g. knights templar etc. the holy grail may not have been a cup. arthur means Bear, possibly. going back if knecht equates to knight then a king would have both boys and servants around him. and finally christianity in Britain is celtic based in the north and west not the romanised part of britain. ps rome conqureered southern britain, , subdues other parts, made forays into others, but they never conquered the entire island.
@@thomasferguson3061 I do know that Padraigh was kidnapped from Britain and his family were from Rome and his grandfather a Bishop.
He was born about 385 and died 461. This is about the time frame of the etymology of the word knight.
From Etymolonline
Old English cniht "boy, youth; servant, attendant," a word common to the nearby Germanic languages (Old Frisian kniucht, Dutch knecht, Middle High German kneht "boy, youth, lad," German Knecht "servant, bondman, vassal"), of unknown origin. For pronunciation, see kn-. The plural in Middle English sometimes was knighten.
Meaning "military follower of a king or other superior" is from c. 1100. It began to be used in a specific military sense in the Hundred Years War, and gradually rose in importance until it became a rank in the nobility from 16c.
It was not used in the military sense until the 11th century. So nobody was called a soldier knight before that time.
So calling them servants, knights, of Christ is most likely. And as I said, Arturo is an Italian noble family name.
The word for bear, as in the Big Bear is Ursa Major but the constellation is Arcturus.
Ursa is the word for bear. And that is why the Arctic is so named, because it is the land where the Big Bear is, in other words before they traveled much, they considered Ursa to be the symbol of the north.
If you need to take an astronomical view, even the Big Dipper could be seen as a grail.
But no, Joseph of Arimathea would not have caught the blood in a cup because he was a ritualistic clean Pharisee and that would have been forbidden and if they saw him do that, he would have been stoned to death.
The Blood in the Cup is the wine that Jesus said "This is the blood of the New Covenant which is shed for many".
The Round table is the plate of the host.
This is very much Christian symbolism and Christianity was in England and Wales very early on, long before the knight and chivalry system.
36:45 Wasn't there somewhere a reference to Breton soldiers in Duke William of Normandy's invasion army singing songs about Arthur in 1066.
are you saying that the norman invasion was just true britons, along with their norman allies, coming back to tke southern britain into its rightful overlordship. never thought of that angle (joke) before. food for thought
@@thomasferguson3061 indeed. Many Britons were allied to the initial Norman invasion of England. How they got into Wales was not unlike how Rome did, they married into it. This is why it took over 200 years to get a foot hold in South Wales.
45:16 Apparently the name Arthur gives bad luck. Another boy claimant named Arthur died by the hands of this uncle, the infamous King John
Actually, the last Roman troops were NOT pulled out of Britain in order to defend Gaul against Germanic invaders. The last Roman commander in Brtitain was a certain Constantine who tried to usurp the crown after Honorius' death in 411. He took all the troops under his command to Gaul were he was defeated by Constantius III . At this stage, the Western Roman Empire was already too weak to be able to send troops to Britain, as Spain (and soon Africa) was still under Germanic occupation and as the Huns became an ever greater threat. Britain just fell by the wayside. Around 450 Celtoroman Britons appeal to the imperial government for help against Pictish and Scotic raiders but are told to fend for themselves.
Cant believe you missed the Japanese swords! The Masamune is widely famous and popularized by video games.
I recently heard an interesting theory that these stories are a myth of the time after the Romans left Britain which initiated a Golden Age of rich British traders who lived like Romans and traded successfully across the Mediterranean Sea.
so chronologically should be the table then the sword then the one man army then the war then the empire reconstruction and then the death by modred
Lady of the Lake could be the caretaker of the sacred site and gave a special sword in her keeping to the selected leader. Excalibur was a well made sword, " an ancient heirloom" but it was the scabbard that was enchanted and a protective charm against wounds.
Show real swords.
Arth or Bear in the indigenous language of the native Cymry, was a leader of Glamorgan in s Wales. There were two Arthur figure's, one in Roman times and the other in Saxon times. One only has to study the lineage of the native kings of Britain and translate the place names in Wales to see truth. All the later rubbish was cultural appropriation on the part of the English Germanic and French aristocracy who layed claim to Arthur being an ancestor, due to having no credible claim to this island. This was later delegated as being myths and legends, as the newcomer wannabe kings had trouble with the fact that there were royal indigenous bloodlines stretching back millennia before the Saxons set foot in Britain. There are no Celts in Britain by the way.
reasonable points, destroyed by ridiculous assertions
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the english heraldry is three leopards, not lions
too true, dont we all make it up as we go along.
Does not the absence of cat monsters, divine destructive boars and people with dog heads in Britain prove that Arthur existed?
The dog heads are real and in the palace of Westminster, it's just we're used to them now
I see history
Is written like greek mithology
I think the issue with your conclusion is that the historicity of Arthur/David (and even Jesus!) is used in the politics of a given time to legitimize the power of a monarch, or political/religious orthodoxy. No one in the UK today truly believes that King Arthur is the mythic hero of a Malory, or Geoffrey of Monmouth narrative.
The Tudor dynasty in the 15th Cent however, used the notion of a (true) King Arthur to justify their victory in what was essentially an on-going clash between two notoriously pugilistic houses (York/Lancaster). Here the notion of 'forget the narrative because its reality claims are baseless' is very important. Enjoy the stories, yes - but their claims to truth values must be challenged historically, because in the case of feudal houses, or Biblical authority, they are still being utilized as (frankly, erroneous) justifications for power and institutional influence.
In the Mabinogion there is a poem with a barbaric, violent SAing King Arthur. It has relics of a very old non-christian Arthur.
Gospel of Thomas is Excalibur if the hope for the man of understanding Jeremiah returned as Jeremy
Suzanna Maria Emmanuel is the reincarnation of King Arthur, and has returned to finish the job.
Just 1 thing that was funny/odd!!!! "Tintagel" is pronounced "Tin-taj-jel" otherwise brilliant!!!!
And that is history in codes
King Arthur may be based on Batraz, a mystic firure of Ossetian mythology.
Troyans were greeks
They all spoke greek in homer
What does this guy believe (if anything) as opposed to what he doesn't believe?
What does it matter?
Lady of the lake is true it's in Somerset Glastonbury England his name Martin Mere lake name after my ancestors just like the village
A little creative imagination wouldn't go a miss.
Durandal is the name of the Sword of Roland...Another example of sword name.
Many myths are turning out to be fact.