Prioritizing right hand D is not drafting for need. Right hand D are hard to find, making them more valuable prospects. Reinbacher was a great pick. Especially when you consider there were a ton of red flags when it came to Michkov. Also, it's better to take your defensive prospects before you offensive ones, as D men take longer to develop.
Too many comparisons can be made by Michkov to Yakupov 5'10✅️ Skating issues✅️ Attitude and character issues✅️ Terrible defensively✅️ Russian KHL superstars✅️ Bust❓️
Let’s be honest should probably have been Mitchkov. We can say what we want but talent like that is hard to pass on Then again what did Chicago do this year. I think both teams made a mistake. The good thing about is history will show that we got the right one I think Mitchkov is a Prima Donna but still would have drafted and traded as we were just getting into the rebuild. I know Culture is important but ask Philly if they would trade Mitchkov for Reinbacher right now. We know that this year there was a lot of good defensemen but look what happened forwards went first. Us ending up with Demi was a fluke unless the word collusion comes into play. I know it’s easy to say everybody love’s everybody and everything is good but this is professional hockey. Teams that have good Culture don’t talk about it. It is just there you will never hear KH or Gordon talk about it’s just our fanbase out thinking that somehow gives us an unfair advantage because nobody else thought of it. What scares me is if we don’t make moves because we’re so caught up in Culture. Thank God our management doesn’t fall for any of this. We talk about trades where we give all our unwanted for say Necas thinking it will go. KH would never insult the other team like that. WE Need a Top Six Big Goal Scorer and 2 years to not be laughed at
not only im a real fan and i didnt hate reinbacher personally i hated the pick wich are diffferent things i think michkov would have been better i think reinbacher is gonna be amazing but hell never equal michkov i think there is no way philly would say yes to michkov for reinbacher but there is personnality to and if michov really have a bad one maybe its gonna be a good pick we need to see hm they both ask on the cap to when time will come
What a stupid generalization, die hard fan and don’t love the pick it was a reach, I’m still don’t like the pick, management decision but it’s done so nothing can be done, but after this years draft they totally redeemed themselves.
I agree, people who hated the pick don't know anything about the guy, they didn't talked to Mitchkov coach and teamates but they can teach management how to draft.
I think his value (reinbacher ) is heightened do to his position. Look where Yakemchuk got drafted. The only player with a similar profile to him in the first round was Levshunov and where did he get picked ? Is Yakemchuk better than or considered to have more potential than buium, Parekh or Sam Dickinson ? No but RD big mobile defenseman are a minority premium that is hard to come by so they get a little bit of an algorithm bonus imo. I can gaurentee you when it comes to trading for a top 6 forward the two players teams will be asking for as compensation will be 1) reinbacher and 2) LM
People clearly dont understand how much better your team gets when you have a defenseman that can play 25 minutes and consistently make that great first pass. He is going to help Montreals transition game for years to come
Despite Kaprizov being an 100pts player. The Wild missed the playoffs because they do not have a Reinbacher quality defensemen in their line up. As simple as that. Reinbacher+Demidov is 100% the best combination from both drafts. I think there is a discussion with a Levchunov+Michkov, but Levchunov was picked earlier, Habs did not have a shot at him.
You are right...in fact Demidov was available at 5 because other teams are prioritizing defense, really early, in this draft. They are pulling Montreal.
@@severed111 point is .. some games Spurgeon logs upwards to 25-28 min TOI. You need someone who can eat the minutes and be reliable for that time on the ice on both ends of the ice.
I truly believe that yhe Habs have a different scouting matrix than mist teams. YES, they obviously look at talent, BUT, I believe they look at character, leadership, the desire to play in Mintreal with the economics , weather & media. I too eanted Michkov at the time, but i trust in their judgement.
The draft is the only thing to look forward to when you suffer the misery of a bottom-five finish. To pass on an exciting prospect for a boring, but essential prospect felt like a kick in the face. Kent Hughes did him no favours when he described his ceiling as a "D2". Better be if you're picking him top five. So, I understand why fans were upset. It's even worse when you're an older fan like me. You've seen decades of a team that seemed allergic to any offensive flash or excitement. Demidov getting drafted was the best thing that ever happened to David Reinbacher. All will be forgotten.
@@davidcook-nd5gk Yes, he certainly could. I hope so. I didn't like the pick at the time, but I trust management knows what they're doing. They've certainly given no indication yet that they don't.
@@dvnd17first pair usually goes against first line. I don’t see Hutson being able to defend the McDavids and the like. I’m thinking they are going to be so malleable first and second pair will be interchangeable and it will depend on the opponent.
@@macrost8935 I hope you’re right. I just don’t think putting Hutson up against top lines would be the best use of his skills. Many of his skills will be neutralized and his weaknesses will be exploited. Really though. Who knows. Just projecting. I honestly think first and second pair is going to be fluid anyway.
It makes me happy to see that Reinbacher is underestimated for his offensive qualities and his offensive potential. Those who understand hockey well will have noticed his intelligence, his calm and his maturity in controlling the puck. 👉🏻 Drafting for need with « a future vision » is not a sin if it is to build a balanced and potentially champion team. Ask Edmonton or Toronto if having a balanced team would be desirable???
The right handed preference would also apply to Levshunov in this year's draft, let's say Levshunov is a lefty, does he still go to the Hawks ? I doubt it ! Levshunov is really good, but is he the best dman in the 2024 draft ? Im not sure ! So yeah, the NHL teams love big mobile righty dmen, it not only about the best player available, draft for position is always a thing too
Most fans dont look at all aspects of a player. They dont get to see all that management sees. Personality, love for the game, desire to play in Mtl, work ethic, humility, etc etc. I think Mtl is putting together a great team with young talent that puts a bonus on being a good human being along with a high level of talent.
I don't hate Reinbacher but I don't think he was the right pick, I don't think we needed a Dman and I don't see his potential atm. But harassing and booeing a kid is unacceptable. Its difficult to properly evaluate a player when he plays in a league that does not value young player so I sure hope the habs has done their homework. For the time being, I am still sad that we will never have a team that includes both mitchkov and demidov. Up to Reinbacher to make me forget.
@@JeanJames-ff3wx who cares where hes "interested". I really doubt most first pick are interested in playing with the worst team of that year, but they mostly all do. This story sounds made up to justify not drafting him. There is litterally nothing appealing to play in Philly. Why would he be so interested to go there exactly? Sounds a lot more probable that Mtl most choked because they thought they couldnt handle a strong attitude.
@@clanechelon would you care to explain why he never went into habs interview? but flyers only? and he never told abt mtl when he was coming to nhl they didnt know how long it takes for him to come to nhl so he made it obivous that he didnt wanted play with mtl prob cause of taxes gouverment or he doesnt wanna speak french
@@JeanJames-ff3wx Do you care to share some credible source supporting what you are saying cause it sounds TVA sport quality news, no offense. Regardless, I don't care what a kid wants. If MTL thinks Reinbacher will have the same impact as Michkov and decided not to take a shot, that is fine. My worry is that Reinbacher will be a dud and we missed on Michkov for nothing. Is it a risky gamble to go for Michkov still, perhaps. But I think you need to pull off ballsy move to build a contender team. Not just playing it safe and boring. I would be interested to know if Michkov would feel different in coming to MTL now that we have Demidov
@@clanechelon true but its too late for now cause we gotta wait 3 years till his contract experis and then we can try to sign him but it prob wont happend since kent huges wont be able to handle his attidude
me to but im damn sure in my life to never send death threats to a player like reinbacher when it was not his fault but his always welcome to montrral tho him and hutson are going to be 😮💨 all reinbacher gotta do is play defence when him and hutson enters the zone reinbacher gotta pass the puck to hutson so he can create a scoring chances every night
Im glad they picked Demidov so everyone can zip it about Michkov, sick of hearing about Michkov. That probably take some pressure off Reinbacher's shoulders, knowing that
To be honest, I could have lived with a combo Michkov + Demidov and make a trade to get a mid pair RH defensement. I'm not gonna throw rocks at Reinbacher, first because he has been picked so he didn't chose anything, second because he hasn't played in the NHL yet... but still... I can't believe that having Reinbacher + Demidov is better than Michkov + Demidov.
tbh what if they picked michkov and traded up to get reinbacher then demidov we would be unstopble in ot 3 v 3 but michkov didnt want to play for montreal so
The current management of the montreal canadiens have done so many good moves that they should get faith of the fanbase in the picks they make regardless of how we feel . This has been an almost picture perfect rebuild . Where have they really screwed up?
@komirules I get that, but montreal has done a great job of rebuilding, but keeping the team morale very high , the kids are OK losing now because they know better days are coming . They have done the opposite of the senators , sabers ,ducks ,blue jackets in the perpetual losing and just can't get out of it .
yes he is ur just a fake habs fan u dont know that michkov was gonna pull an adam fox hope for downfall with philly and their shitty city full of homeless ppl
michkov only wanted to play in philly, he wanted to live in an impoverished dump full of crack heads and tent cities or maybe he just really likes rocky 🤔
Of course Demidov and Mitchkov would have beed killer. But the catastrophic decision is irreversible and we have to accept Reinbacker, and not make him feel that it is his fault. He is just a well intentioned kid who did his best, and got cought in some bizarre political plot to skip on the Russian player (it is the only reason that can explain this totally illogical and flat out stupid move). Reinbacker will always feel that he is a deception to the fans, he knows that Michkov should have been the one.. he's not stupid.., and this is a heavy weight to carry, the fans will never really be happy about him. If I was him, I would ask to be traded to an organization were he will be free to just be himself and not having to say "sorry you got me".. If I was his agent I would advise him to do it. Look at Reinbacker's face during interviews. This isn't a happy confident kid. He is serious and nervous, he doesn't feel that he is deserving. David if you read this, remember that you ow nothing to the Montreal Canadiens. Your job is to be happy and successful. You can still do it, the fans will understand. Go to another organization who will be thrilled to have you on tue team.
Catastrophic 😂😂😂 one hell of an expert. If he ends up being a number 1/2 Dman Playing 25 mins, I’d much rather have him than a one dimensional player like Michkov
Wow so many bad takes I dont even know where to begin. I mean...you must have fell in canabis oil when you were young to imagine all these scenarios lol
I am officially fuly behind Hughes. He is a genius and is building a beautiful team!
Reinbacher with Lane Hutson. That would fun to watch.
@@jeanregaudie it’s going to be interesting to see what happens. Even Hutson with Mailloux when we need to generate offence would be fun to watch.
Prioritizing right hand D is not drafting for need. Right hand D are hard to find, making them more valuable prospects. Reinbacher was a great pick. Especially when you consider there were a ton of red flags when it came to Michkov. Also, it's better to take your defensive prospects before you offensive ones, as D men take longer to develop.
@@doubllechief6926 I agree with you. The people who think Reinbacher was a by need choice are the same people who wanted Cole Eiserman lol.
Too many comparisons can be made by Michkov to Yakupov
5'10✅️
Skating issues✅️
Attitude and character issues✅️
Terrible defensively✅️
Russian KHL superstars✅️
Bust❓️
Let’s be honest should probably have been Mitchkov. We can say what we want but talent like that is hard to pass on Then again what did Chicago do this year. I think both teams made a mistake. The good thing about is history will show that we got the right one I think Mitchkov is a Prima Donna but still would have drafted and traded as we were just getting into the rebuild. I know Culture is important but ask Philly if they would trade Mitchkov for Reinbacher right now. We know that this year there was a lot of good defensemen but look what happened forwards went first. Us ending up with Demi was a fluke unless the word collusion comes into play. I know it’s easy to say everybody love’s everybody and everything is good but this is professional hockey. Teams that have good Culture don’t talk about it. It is just there you will never hear KH or Gordon talk about it’s just our fanbase out thinking that somehow gives us an unfair advantage because nobody else thought of it. What scares me is if we don’t make moves because we’re so caught up in Culture. Thank God our management doesn’t fall for any of this. We talk about trades where we give all our unwanted for say Necas thinking it will go. KH would never insult the other team like that. WE Need a Top Six Big Goal Scorer and 2 years to not be laughed at
Another important piece to the rebuild. He’s a stud on defence.
Wow....a little deluded methinks.
I’m so proud of David progress so far
Are you still proud of his progress?
People forget that Michkov stated he was only interested in playing for Philly.
he wanted to play for tortorella and live in one of the worst city in usa full of homeless addict and crime ? Yeah show me the article lollllllll
I'm 99% sure that was a rumor. I'm pretty confident he never outright said it. Nobody knows if there is any truth to that, at all.
@@Ruzr07luckily everyone’s not as dumb as you.
@@bangbangyoureaboolean1324the only team he met with twice was the flyers. Idk about him not wanting to go to other teams. But that’s what I know.
@@Ruzr07 Your bitterness is entirely enjoyable 😆
Montreal also prioritize players who WANT to play in Montreal
THIS... I commented about this too. I agree
Real fans accepted him, it was the bandwagon fans that hated him , the so called fans that follow the game as much as they follow Afghanistan politics
Obscure casual fans...LoL
not only im a real fan and i didnt hate reinbacher personally i hated the pick wich are diffferent things i think michkov would have been better i think reinbacher is gonna be amazing but hell never equal michkov i think there is no way philly would say yes to michkov for reinbacher but there is personnality to and if michov really have a bad one maybe its gonna be a good pick we need to see hm they both ask on the cap to when time will come
What a stupid generalization, die hard fan and don’t love the pick it was a reach, I’m still don’t like the pick, management decision but it’s done so nothing can be done, but after this years draft they totally redeemed themselves.
I agree, people who hated the pick don't know anything about the guy, they didn't talked to Mitchkov coach and teamates but they can teach management how to draft.
What a really weird thing to say.
I think his value (reinbacher ) is heightened do to his position. Look where Yakemchuk got drafted. The only player with a similar profile to him in the first round was Levshunov and where did he get picked ? Is Yakemchuk better than or considered to have more potential than buium, Parekh or Sam Dickinson ? No but RD big mobile defenseman are a minority premium that is hard to come by so they get a little bit of an algorithm bonus imo. I can gaurentee you when it comes to trading for a top 6 forward the two players teams will be asking for as compensation will be 1) reinbacher and 2) LM
People clearly dont understand how much better your team gets when you have a defenseman that can play 25 minutes and consistently make that great first pass. He is going to help Montreals transition game for years to come
Despite Kaprizov being an 100pts player. The Wild missed the playoffs because they do not have a Reinbacher quality defensemen in their line up. As simple as that.
Reinbacher+Demidov is 100% the best combination from both drafts. I think there is a discussion with a Levchunov+Michkov, but Levchunov was picked earlier, Habs did not have a shot at him.
You are right...in fact Demidov was available at 5 because other teams are prioritizing defense, really early, in this draft. They are pulling Montreal.
They have Spurgeon, but the guy is spending his days in rehab a lot in last few years.
@@severed111 so the year he's not there, they miss the playoffs.. lol
@@severed111 point is .. some games Spurgeon logs upwards to 25-28 min TOI. You need someone who can eat the minutes and be reliable for that time on the ice on both ends of the ice.
Yeah but u guys could have gotten Michkov and silayev.
I truly believe that yhe Habs have a different scouting matrix than mist teams.
YES, they obviously look at talent, BUT, I believe they look at character, leadership, the desire to play in Mintreal with the economics , weather & media.
I too eanted Michkov at the time, but i trust in their judgement.
The draft is the only thing to look forward to when you suffer the misery of a bottom-five finish. To pass on an exciting prospect for a boring, but essential prospect felt like a kick in the face. Kent Hughes did him no favours when he described his ceiling as a "D2". Better be if you're picking him top five. So, I understand why fans were upset. It's even worse when you're an older fan like me. You've seen decades of a team that seemed allergic to any offensive flash or excitement. Demidov getting drafted was the best thing that ever happened to David Reinbacher. All will be forgotten.
we don't know, he could be another Larry Robinson in a few years.
@@davidcook-nd5gk Yes, he certainly could. I hope so. I didn't like the pick at the time, but I trust management knows what they're doing. They've certainly given no indication yet that they don't.
I'd put Reinbacher on the 2nd pair with Hutson (once Matheson is gone). I'd put Mailloux on the 1st pairing with Guhle.
Hutson-reinbacher has way more potential then guhle-Mailloux imo, I think it’s more likely that’s the first pair then second
Watching Mailloux play is special. People sleep on him for obvious reasons…
@@dvnd17first pair usually goes against first line. I don’t see Hutson being able to defend the McDavids and the like. I’m thinking they are going to be so malleable first and second pair will be interchangeable and it will depend on the opponent.
@@jhenz1926 Hutson, while he doesn't have the size, is better defensively than Mailloux, at least right now.
@@macrost8935 I hope you’re right. I just don’t think putting Hutson up against top lines would be the best use of his skills. Many of his skills will be neutralized and his weaknesses will be exploited. Really though. Who knows. Just projecting. I honestly think first and second pair is going to be fluid anyway.
It makes me happy to see that Reinbacher is underestimated for his offensive qualities and his offensive potential. Those who understand hockey well will have noticed his intelligence, his calm and his maturity in controlling the puck.
👉🏻 Drafting for need with « a future vision » is not a sin if it is to build a balanced and potentially champion team. Ask Edmonton or Toronto if having a balanced team would be desirable???
They said the same with Slaf vs Wright. Wright got pick way later than anticipated. Mitchkov too. There's maybe some reasonning behind it...
The right handed preference would also apply to Levshunov in this year's draft, let's say Levshunov is a lefty, does he still go to the Hawks ? I doubt it ! Levshunov is really good, but is he the best dman in the 2024 draft ? Im not sure ! So yeah, the NHL teams love big mobile righty dmen, it not only about the best player available, draft for position is always a thing too
Most fans dont look at all aspects of a player. They dont get to see all that management sees. Personality, love for the game, desire to play in Mtl, work ethic, humility, etc etc. I think Mtl is putting together a great team with young talent that puts a bonus on being a good human being along with a high level of talent.
I just commented a very similar comment.
Their decision making qualities on their prospects is different.
Big picture is habs getting the d-core set now to fill out the rest of the line up with great forwards in the great chase for the cup
I don't hate Reinbacher but I don't think he was the right pick, I don't think we needed a Dman and I don't see his potential atm. But harassing and booeing a kid is unacceptable.
Its difficult to properly evaluate a player when he plays in a league that does not value young player so I sure hope the habs has done their homework.
For the time being, I am still sad that we will never have a team that includes both mitchkov and demidov. Up to Reinbacher to make me forget.
then who do u wanted to pick beside michikov cause that freaking dude was interstead in philly
@@JeanJames-ff3wx who cares where hes "interested". I really doubt most first pick are interested in playing with the worst team of that year, but they mostly all do.
This story sounds made up to justify not drafting him. There is litterally nothing appealing to play in Philly. Why would he be so interested to go there exactly? Sounds a lot more probable that Mtl most choked because they thought they couldnt handle a strong attitude.
@@clanechelon would you care to explain why he never went into habs interview? but flyers only? and he never told abt mtl when he was coming to nhl they didnt know how long it takes for him to come to nhl so he made it obivous that he didnt wanted play with mtl prob cause of taxes gouverment or he doesnt wanna speak french
@@JeanJames-ff3wx Do you care to share some credible source supporting what you are saying cause it sounds TVA sport quality news, no offense.
Regardless, I don't care what a kid wants. If MTL thinks Reinbacher will have the same impact as Michkov and decided not to take a shot, that is fine. My worry is that Reinbacher will be a dud and we missed on Michkov for nothing. Is it a risky gamble to go for Michkov still, perhaps. But I think you need to pull off ballsy move to build a contender team. Not just playing it safe and boring.
I would be interested to know if Michkov would feel different in coming to MTL now that we have Demidov
@@clanechelon true but its too late for now cause we gotta wait 3 years till his contract experis and then we can try to sign him
but it prob wont happend since kent huges wont be able to handle his attidude
Ok... I didn't like the Reinbacher pick at all, but I have to admit this makes up for it.
me to but im damn sure in my life to never send death threats to a player like reinbacher when it was not his fault but his always welcome to montrral tho him and hutson are going to be 😮💨 all reinbacher gotta do is play defence when him and hutson enters the zone reinbacher gotta pass the puck to hutson so he can create a scoring chances every night
Im glad they picked Demidov so everyone can zip it about Michkov, sick of hearing about Michkov.
That probably take some pressure off Reinbacher's shoulders, knowing that
To be honest, I could have lived with a combo Michkov + Demidov and make a trade to get a mid pair RH defensement.
I'm not gonna throw rocks at Reinbacher, first because he has been picked so he didn't chose anything, second because he hasn't played in the NHL yet... but still... I can't believe that having Reinbacher + Demidov is better than Michkov + Demidov.
tbh what if they picked michkov and traded up to get reinbacher then demidov we would be unstopble in ot 3 v 3 but michkov didnt want to play for montreal so
I've never anyone saying he was hated common now
Reinbacher reminds me of a right handed Roman hamrlik, very good pick
The current management of the montreal canadiens have done so many good moves that they should get faith of the fanbase in the picks they make regardless of how we feel . This has been an almost picture perfect rebuild . Where have they really screwed up?
Could have sucked more and drafted Bedard. But I like the way it’s shaping up.
@komirules I get that, but montreal has done a great job of rebuilding, but keeping the team morale very high , the kids are OK losing now because they know better days are coming . They have done the opposite of the senators , sabers ,ducks ,blue jackets in the perpetual losing and just can't get out of it .
I think the idea is that Reinbacher will play with Hutson in a couple years.
I am willing to bet that Reinbacher isn't quite as beloved as this video suggests....Michkov....27 points in 27 games....ouch.....
He never went to beloved.. I'm still mad I wanted Michkov still do
yes he is ur just a fake habs fan u dont know that michkov was gonna pull an adam fox hope for downfall with philly and their shitty city full of homeless ppl
Day 2 asking for a video reaction of Alexander Zetterberg being invited to Habs development camp
michkov only wanted to play in philly, he wanted to live in an impoverished dump full of crack heads and tent cities or maybe he just really likes rocky 🤔
MISCHOV -- DIMIDOV
WILLBY DREAMS FOR NEXT 15 YEARS
Michkov and Demidov would have been electric.
Reinbacher didn't have a particularly good year. Habs fans coping hard.
he played on a very bad team he had to carry but i still dont like that pick but hey michkov wanted to go to a shitty ciry in philly
Same thing happened with Slaffy btw :)
I still mad about the pick ...instead of 1 wicked Russian we could of had 2...
Of course Demidov and Mitchkov would have beed killer. But the catastrophic decision is irreversible and we have to accept Reinbacker, and not make him feel that it is his fault. He is just a well intentioned kid who did his best, and got cought in some bizarre political plot to skip on the Russian player (it is the only reason that can explain this totally illogical and flat out stupid move). Reinbacker will always feel that he is a deception to the fans, he knows that Michkov should have been the one.. he's not stupid.., and this is a heavy weight to carry, the fans will never really be happy about him. If I was him, I would ask to be traded to an organization were he will be free to just be himself and not having to say "sorry you got me".. If I was his agent I would advise him to do it. Look at Reinbacker's face during interviews. This isn't a happy confident kid. He is serious and nervous, he doesn't feel that he is deserving. David if you read this, remember that you ow nothing to the Montreal Canadiens. Your job is to be happy and successful. You can still do it, the fans will understand. Go to another organization who will be thrilled to have you on tue team.
Are you his therapist? That's just a lot of words. He'll be loved in Montreal and he'll be a stud.
Catastrophic 😂😂😂 one hell of an expert. If he ends up being a number 1/2 Dman Playing 25 mins, I’d much rather have him than a one dimensional player like Michkov
Gee... that sounds pretty paranoid.
Sissy @@marcbabineau6001
Wow so many bad takes I dont even know where to begin. I mean...you must have fell in canabis oil when you were young to imagine all these scenarios lol