Hey, Mr. Debt. This video was uploaded quite some time ago, but no one seems to have answered your questions asked within. I will answer as per my own experiences...but as no expert. Firstly, by profession, I am a veterinarian, and was one in the military for quite some time. I also grew up on a ranch, and have, as you say, "floored" plenty of cattle. In my experience in the US, most handlers use a stiff nylon rope. It holds its loop quite well. I did do a humanitarian trip through Central and South America, and their cowboys used exclusively soft ropes with hand-tied hondas...and were quite good with them!
Many thanks for the information, it is always good to read people personal experiences. I personally was always under the impression that the rope was either very hard lay or stiffened in some way. Thanks for letting me know.
Nice demo. Cattle working ropes today are specialized and quite technical for competitive ropers. Modern materials are nylon, nylon/polypropylene blend and polypropylene/polyester blend (polygrass, syngrass etc). 3 strand or 4 strand. Soft, medium, hard and intermediate stiffness some are core weighted depending on use and personal preference. Varying diameters and lengths for particular use (calf, steer header, steer heeler, utility ranch etc), personal preference or level of ability. They are preloaded (coiled) by heat treatment for loop retention and snap back. Some use a braided rawhide hondo, yes it's "hondo". My first that I still have is scant 1/2" waxed hard lay 28' 3 strand manila with tied hondo and leather "burner" that I used for ground roping/working corral calves. Rope's well worn like me. It's on the wall, I'm in the recliner. :) They aren't lariat or lasso, they are simply your rope. The ropes today are as golf cubs, everyone has a personal preference. However when working cattle on the ranch/farm you "dance with the one who brung ye" ie "what you got in hand". Mikko Snellman would be appalled with these ropes. :)
Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used! I knew that when I started the video that a knot does not make a lasso. In one of the replies to this video somebody passes a link to a cow being cut up for such a thing. As for Mikko I am sure that he may have a rope for the job, as they do wrestle Reindeer in his part of the world?
Johnny Debt practical, i needed a lasso for a rope game i want to lasso my friend and try to bring him down or have him lasso me and try to bring me down with it.
Mmmmm, and if you mix in a drop of alcohol, it could turn out to be a rather interesting event. Perhaps the video camera to hand may also be a useful addition?
Though not a Cowboy(Vaqueros where I grew up)I now live in Utah, hard on the Wyoming and Idaho borders and count many ranchers and Cowboys as friends. First a note on nomenclature, Cowboys lasso critters (steers,horse, their sweethearts) with their lariats. Lariats were traditionally made of horse hair, spun by the Cowboys themselves(they even made the spinners to do this). The burners, as noted below, could be made from several materials, although the most beautiful and elegant ones I have seen are hand carved out of bone. I have also seen lariats made of leather.
Thanks again for another great video I have learned more and much better knotting skills from you in your videos than I did as a member of The Boy Scouts of America for 10 years both as a scout and then many years as a leader, in fact I wish I had been able to find as good of a teaching video all those years ago. and before I'm asked I am a very poor practical knotter but getting better thanks to you
Keep going!! I learnt lots of knots, but then I only have a select few that I use all the time. I think many have been forgotten?? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
According to the wiki article on Team Roping (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_roping), the rope used is a synthetic. Years ago, however, we used a hard-laid 3-strand manila rope, which was also heavily waxed. And the eye was a braided eye splice about a brass thimble.
Looking at your profile picture, I would have assumed that you had floored many a steer in your time with a lasso? Good to see you back again also Ric.
Hello again John, good info. I suppose you could use figure of eight knots instead of overhand knots. they may be easier to undo if the whole shooting match was pulled very tight.
Yes, I think that too may be a suitable variant. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
More a practical, although I have done some decorative. I may send you a photo of a Turks Head that I did on a boom handle about 15 years ago. (I am an old fart - Hahaha)
Would there be some disadvantage to tying a Bowline and passing the standing end through the Bowline to create an adjustable loop as opposed to using the Honda knot?
@@KnottingKnots Oh I was imagining using it for rounding up cattle and was just curious what the functional difference was between the running bowline and the honda lasso knot.
@@ghollisjr From what I understand is that it is not just the knot that make this knot. The actual loop created by the knot, where the line runs through it, this is in some ways also made to be rigid. Maybe it is lined with a hard leather, the idea is that the loop does not collapse and the rope should run freely through the loop. Sorry, not a cowboy, but that is the best I can answer.
Ropes not rigid enough. Lariat rope is very stiff. Enough give to throw but rough enough to never give the animal play to get away from you. Wrangler from Alberta talkin.
@@trackerjacker0013 I love net making!! When I look at my nets, still remember the warmth of the sun and my dog snoring next to me. I like the way that knots create memories you start to remember all the good things that happened in your life.
@@KnottingKnots I used your surgeons knot to fix one of my 4yr old daughters toys. A little rubber frog she won’t sleep without. An I meant it, no you, no nets, no you, no fixed toys. We really appreciate you. My oldest showed off your weaver knot an my lock stitches with a speed awl. It was a proud day.
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I live in Dorset and I would say that we have a massive cow population, but I have never come across a dead one. The dog and I sometimes have to chase them off our path, but other than that it is very tame here.
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Hey, Mr. Debt. This video was uploaded quite some time ago, but no one seems to have answered your questions asked within. I will answer as per my own experiences...but as no expert.
Firstly, by profession, I am a veterinarian, and was one in the military for quite some time. I also grew up on a ranch, and have, as you say, "floored" plenty of cattle.
In my experience in the US, most handlers use a stiff nylon rope. It holds its loop quite well. I did do a humanitarian trip through Central and South America, and their cowboys used exclusively soft ropes with hand-tied hondas...and were quite good with them!
Many thanks for the information, it is always good to read people personal experiences. I personally was always under the impression that the rope was either very hard lay or stiffened in some way. Thanks for letting me know.
Nice demo. Cattle working ropes today are specialized and quite technical for competitive ropers. Modern materials are nylon, nylon/polypropylene blend and polypropylene/polyester blend (polygrass, syngrass etc). 3 strand or 4 strand. Soft, medium, hard and intermediate stiffness some are core weighted depending on use and personal preference. Varying diameters and lengths for particular use (calf, steer header, steer heeler, utility ranch etc), personal preference or level of ability. They are preloaded (coiled) by heat treatment for loop retention and snap back. Some use a braided rawhide hondo, yes it's "hondo". My first that I still have is scant 1/2" waxed hard lay 28' 3 strand manila with tied hondo and leather "burner" that I used for ground roping/working corral calves. Rope's well worn like me. It's on the wall, I'm in the recliner. :) They aren't lariat or lasso, they are simply your rope. The ropes today are as golf cubs, everyone has a personal preference. However when working cattle on the ranch/farm you "dance with the one who brung ye" ie "what you got in hand". Mikko Snellman would be appalled with these ropes. :)
Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used! I knew that when I started the video that a knot does not make a lasso. In one of the replies to this video somebody passes a link to a cow being cut up for such a thing. As for Mikko I am sure that he may have a rope for the job, as they do wrestle Reindeer in his part of the world?
Great video! loved the pace of it, helped me a lot and it was very clear. Now i can lasso my brother.
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I would do the same but with my sister
Thanks needed a slower paced step by step video.
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Johnny Debt practical, i needed a lasso for a rope game i want to lasso my friend and try to bring him down or have him lasso me and try to bring me down with it.
Mmmmm, and if you mix in a drop of alcohol, it could turn out to be a rather interesting event. Perhaps the video camera to hand may also be a useful addition?
Love watching you your videos
Though not a Cowboy(Vaqueros where I grew up)I now live in Utah, hard on the Wyoming and Idaho borders and count many ranchers and Cowboys as friends. First a note on nomenclature, Cowboys lasso critters (steers,horse, their sweethearts) with their lariats. Lariats were traditionally made of horse hair, spun by the Cowboys themselves(they even made the spinners to do this). The burners, as noted below, could be made from several materials, although the most beautiful and elegant ones I have seen are hand carved out of bone. I have also seen lariats made of leather.
Thanks again for another great video I have learned more and much better knotting skills from you in your videos than I did as a member of The Boy Scouts of America for 10 years both as a scout and then many years as a leader, in fact I wish I had been able to find as good of a teaching video all those years ago. and before I'm asked I am a very poor practical knotter but getting better thanks to you
Keep going!! I learnt lots of knots, but then I only have a select few that I use all the time. I think many have been forgotten?? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.
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Lasso is made of Cork that has been turned into a string and then strings from a sheep and thats the rope materials
Thank you!
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This was very helpful
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Great tutorial
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I’ve seen braided rawhide used for lasso rope.
I personally know little about Lasso's, I wonder if rawhide is better?
According to the wiki article on Team Roping (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_roping), the rope used is a synthetic.
Years ago, however, we used a hard-laid 3-strand manila rope, which was also heavily waxed. And the eye was a braided eye splice about a brass thimble.
Yes, I can imagine that they are heavily waxed. When you see a lasso they behave like a wire hawser, but with less weight. Cheers for that!!
Hi, its Ralph, the Honda hole needs to be 10 times the thickness than the rope your using. I use my rope all the time,
Hola Johnny que buen trabajo con la honda gracias por compartir
Gracias por tomarse el tiempo para ver y también hacer un comentario, muy apreciado. ¿Eres más un anudador práctico o decorativo?
supongo que practico porque me gusta aprender y cuando nesecito algun nudo lo se hacer
Good video
You really must like it as you posted twice ;-)
:) u r good
well i learned something new did knot know there was a certain kind of not for the lasso.... good to see you my friend
Looking at your profile picture, I would have assumed that you had floored many a steer in your time with a lasso? Good to see you back again also Ric.
i want to learn how to lasso
Hello again John, good info. I suppose you could use figure of eight knots instead of overhand knots. they may be easier to undo if the whole shooting match was pulled very tight.
Yes, I think that too may be a suitable variant. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?
More a practical, although I have done some decorative. I may send you a photo of a Turks Head that I did on a boom handle about 15 years ago. (I am an old fart - Hahaha)
Would love to see your Turks Head, please do drag and drop me a photo here: goo.gl/mQgf8E I do love seeing other peoples work.
They vary in width and hardness depending ing on uses.a calf rope is the softest rope. Ropes used for heeling are the hardest.
always good to learn something new, many thanks Charles.
Would there be some disadvantage to tying a Bowline and passing the standing end through the Bowline to create an adjustable loop as opposed to using the Honda knot?
You are now describing the Running Bowline. If it suits your needs, then use what you feel most comfortable with. What are you going to do with it?
@@KnottingKnots Oh I was imagining using it for rounding up cattle and was just curious what the functional difference was between the running bowline and the honda lasso knot.
@@ghollisjr From what I understand is that it is not just the knot that make this knot. The actual loop created by the knot, where the line runs through it, this is in some ways also made to be rigid. Maybe it is lined with a hard leather, the idea is that the loop does not collapse and the rope should run freely through the loop. Sorry, not a cowboy, but that is the best I can answer.
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Not helpful I got a cowboy toy and the rope is very tiny and thin so it’s not working
We use hard rope but its soft so it won't hurt the animals
that was "knot usless"
Ropes not rigid enough. Lariat rope is very stiff. Enough give to throw but rough enough to never give the animal play to get away from you. Wrangler from Alberta talkin.
Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots and cordage being used in action!
Any time. I learn loads from your channel, so it’s the least we can do. If it weren’t for you I’d still be scratching my head over net making.
@@trackerjacker0013 I love net making!! When I look at my nets, still remember the warmth of the sun and my dog snoring next to me. I like the way that knots create memories you start to remember all the good things that happened in your life.
@@KnottingKnots I used your surgeons knot to fix one of my 4yr old daughters toys. A little rubber frog she won’t sleep without. An I meant it, no you, no nets, no you, no fixed toys. We really appreciate you. My oldest showed off your weaver knot an my lock stitches with a speed awl. It was a proud day.
Ur second name is my biggest problem in life lol 😂
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if you say honduh around a bunch of cowboys you're begging to be chapped around the branding fire.
why not just tie a nosse its easier
Papoi two much weight
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Well if you can't tie a knot...tie a lot😂😂
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like if it is good vid
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What doesn't work?
How to make a Riata: th-cam.com/video/0hQ29xYzoyk/w-d-xo.html
Now I know what to do the next time I come across a dead cow, like in the video. How on earth Roger, did you know about Riata's???
I'm from Texas. Everyone here knows about riatas and lariats. Dead cows are on every street corner. Also, "lasso" is a verb.
I live in Dorset and I would say that we have a massive cow population, but I have never come across a dead one. The dog and I sometimes have to chase them off our path, but other than that it is very tame here.
Hmmmmmm🤔🤔🤔🤔
Good video
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