40k Lore, The Relictors and Chaos
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Intro by Henrik Sigeman
wouldn't it be hilarious that all three armory raids had the _same_ survivor
imagine the big boys kicking down the door the third time
"fuck sake not again!"
"Ah shit, here we go AGAIN!"
I can just imagine a Relictor captain saying to an inquisitor, "It belongs in a museum."
Captain Indiana Jonesson
And then grabing his powerwhip.
"SO DO YOU" :D
Trayzn: I agree.
"...and I JUST so happen to HAVE a museum!"
Thousand degree greater Daemon sword vs. Tactical Dreadnought Armor.
Billion views on warptube.
Arklighter can u don't?
@Sassy Saddles I hear Slaanesh-hub regularly plays a screen adaptation of SQUAD BROKEN! with the "educational" tab.
@@Ichaerus Fake Battle Barge
Little known fact, Arch wrote a script about the Blood Ravens but they stole it.
It was ours
@@bloodraven7237 What isn’t yours?
@@shotgunwarrior5393 The emperor,
@trueblueprussian 23Heretic!
As a loyal and decorated Blood Raven, ur mad skill issue
Relictors: wait, do you mean chaos is... Chaotic?
Me: um, WHAT DID YOU THINK IT WAS?!?
Jean-Luc Martel Relictors: Well, that inquisitor said it was fine. I mean, it's not like a daemon sword caused the Great Heresy or anything.
No lorgar did!
Yep, #BlameLorgar.
Who would've thought ?! D:/
Dante was so pissed he filed a formal complaint, he even added a nasty word in it
And 2 counts of improper dress.
I bet it was damn
As for the Blood Ravens being Magpies well desperate times called for desperate measures; the era in which stealing everything useful that wasn't nailed down was a trying time and much of that was some of their own relics that had been stolen including 5 full suits of terminator armor being held in the local hive world governor's personal collection. The Blood Ravens had recently had several of their recruiting worlds destroyed, their numbers in half their companies battered by crisis after crisis (along with the Dark Crusade on Kronos) and the other half almost totally annihilated by the Buffoonish Captain Boreal. Then their home subsector gets ravaged by a Tyrranid splinter fleet and proto Ork Waaagh along with constant meddling and harassment by Eldar of Craftworld Uthwe (who in their typical meddlesome fashon were responsible for the Orks and Nids showing up at the Blood Ravens doorstep due to their meddling, at least Biel-Tan will stab you in the front) with nothing but a strike cruiser and a couple escorts with a few dozen marines, several veteran sergeant (though admittedly some were very experienced) and a freshly minted captain to stop them and succeeded against all odds. After having what was left having their asses hauled out of the fire by the perfect timing of the 3rd company they had to contend with a chaos incursion summoned by the untrustworthy Govenor including many Chaos Marines and daemons along with Eliphas "Why won't you Fucking stay dead?" The Inheritor. Then after stacking the corpses of aforementioned Marines and Daemons like cordwood and unfortunately confronting and killing one of their own sergeants turned traitor they destroyed the physical form of the Great Unclean One Ulkair only to find out that their own chapter master had turned traitor centuries ago and had likely masterminded all of their great misfortunes to that point. Then after apparently attracting the Ire of Abbadon himself the Blood Ravens were locked in a bitter stalemate for a decade they finally pushed out their enemies (at the beckoning of an inquisitor with a mini crusade of imperial guard) and in the process went to war with traitor elements of their own chapter (and won) and discovered their Chapter Master had been consorting with a particular Greater Daemon of Khorn (who is atypically a singularly patient and scheming example of a Khornate servant) that had set all of this into motion. The Blood Ravens finally defeat their partially ascended Daemon Prince Chapter Master (how a Greater Daemon is able to do this to someone without their patrons direct involvement and multiple times at that is beyond me) and not only survive but stayed loyal, are not found wanting by the inquisition nor being disbanded due to critically short numbers or sent on a penitent crusade but allowed to rebuild with a new Commander at the helm. Many other Chapters could look to the Blood Ravens as a shining example of unrelenting tenacity in the face of impossible odds. All of which was in the span of around 20 years an undoubtedly shitty 2 decades at that, I think stealing some shit is small fucking potatoes compared to that.
cnlbenmc THAT'S RIGHT! It was theirs to begin with. They were in the right to steal it all back.
cnlbenmc
So stealing stolen shinys. One could call it reclaiming stolen property but their shiny.
You forget one detail; many of the items from other chapters are said too have been in the blood ravens' possession long before the events of Dawn of War. In addition, nothing explains how the actual fuck they got Custodes gear. The Imperial Fists are a founding chapter that guards the most holy planet in the galaxy, the very planet the Custodes are stationed on, and _they_ don't get Custodes gear.
TL;DR
It isn't thievery if you have a legitimate claim to it.
Nicholas Knudson Custodes during that time are rarely sent out to do something. Usually if a Custodes is sent out, the Emperor is in mortal danger. So as a token of appreciation for their cooperation, a particular Custodes provided the weapon to the Blood Ravens.
THIS IS HERESY! WE MUST PURIFY THIS THREAD!
*Best thief chapter: The Space Poles known for stealing the stereos within titans.
Poland cannot into spehss
Baker Tankersley
That's just a rumor, Poland can indeed into space.
A Random Crusader - Can confirm, I am a Techmarine of the Space Poles. My Battle Brothers bring me many relic of old technology. I recently received something called a "Walkman". As far as I can ascertain it neither walks nor is a man, but it does seem to be some manner of portable vox.
Space Poles aka Winged Hussars.
A Random Crusader - the space poles battle cry- KURWAAA!!!
Did anyone else only just notice the skulls eyes glowing every so often? I thought I was tripping on Warp dust lol
Arch's lore boner makes it glow. Why? 'Cuz the Warp.
Arch: the biggest moment of derp in 40k history.
GW: hold my bear
*primaris pops into existence*
*Mega lore reees*
Fulgrim would be kind of enviously pissed that somehow these normie Space Marines somehow acquired a ton of Chaos weapons without falling prey to daemonic influence whereas he, a freakin Primarch, got screwed over after acquiring just ONE.
He just took one of the WORST deamon weapons in existance. It's not like he could resist it for very long.
Oh. I thought a blade containing the essence of a Greater Daemon was more or less on the same level as what latched onto Fulgrim. I mean, aren't they supposed to be the scariest warp-born nasties besides the Chaos Gods themselves?..........Unless maybe Fulgrim's consisted of a whole conglomeration of them fused together.
Fulgrim is a fucking failure to the emperor
It's possible that the greater daemon's preferred chaos god makes a difference. As in a greater daemon that pays respect to Khorne would have a less active interest in corrupting their wielder as long as they were used regularly.
@@Drake00075 My money is on it being Slaaneshi in nature, given his current patronage, and the fact that Keepers of Secrets are known to fuck up entire Craftworlds and planets by themselves.
I like to imagine it was the exact same guy who survived each time the Relictors raided the vaults.
Just remember when the blood ravens are around even if its bolted down to the frame work of your battlebarge its still not safe from their glorious thieving hands.
think they may be one of those experimental chapters, add some ork looter slime and paint their army red cause they go faster :)
And THAT is why I've Sauron'd my shit to high hell. Any jackass decides to take my stuff, it's going to do its dead-level best to make their lives hell and get back to me.
You ever see the look on an Inquisitor's face when he chops off his own leg with a chain-axe for 'no apparent reason'? Now _that shit_ is priceless.
Also makes resurrection a hell of a lot easier when you have over a thousand anchors to work with. Think the difference between a thousand years of constant migraines or a morning hangover.
Stross Varon Lock the Reliquary!
Stross Varon I remember reading a short (very short, in fact) fanfic where they had stolen Bjorn.
BJOOOOOOOOOOOOORN!
Are the deathskulls playing dressup?
Hey pal, love the videos, whenever I've got a bit of spare time and nothing else new to watch I throw on one of your videos, even tho I've watched them a million times. Anyway I'd like to make a request, can you cover the months of shame, the time after the first war for armageddon. I absolutely loved how you presented those wars and feel like that part is the last piece of the jigsaw to complete the story. Lastly you need to look at the new fan film "death of hope" chapter master valrak is voicing an Imperial Fist in it and it looks brilliant, I think you should make your audience aware of it so we can support it, just search for the trailer on TH-cam. Anyway keep up the good work pal
I'm now stuck on the idea of a Daemon weapon that can't do any of the normal daemon weapon things.
All it can do is spit upon whoever is near by.
It spits Nurgle's rot. ;)
Is it possessed by the daemon uga’Dane knu’kells? Would explain a lot
tbh given their fondness for finding chaos artifacts it's kinda surprising the inquisition didn't just turn them into a scouting force for the ordo malleus maybe with a significant number of inquisitorial agents integrated within just to make sure they stay on the straight and narrow
The newest novel of alpha legion (sons of the hydra) actually have a sorcerer from relictors chapter with heretical tendency to grab some unholy chaos artefacts acting as a member of alpha legion.
No chaos mid-add. Emperor is with us.
I like to think of the stuff the Blood Ravens got in DoW2 as developers being lazy and not bothering coming up with names so they just took names from other chapters and used it on the items you find.
The blood ravens or the "joink mine now" chapter
I’ve been a Relictors chapter player since I started in 5th edition. I’m not gonna lie I mainly chose them because they looked easy to paint. After about a week of painting them I looked up as much of their lore as was available at the time and I feel in love with how they are not perfect. It made them feel more understanding that they’d break rules for the mission at hand and are becoming corrupted as anyone in a powerful position would.
Imagine if the survivor was the same fucking guy every three times.
"Exonerated" might have been the best word.
SandTrout true, and untrue at the same time... as « redeemed » is the imperial term for « actually loyal soldiers accused of heresy or being traitor proving those accusations wrong by giving their lives on a suicide (and actually pointless) mission for the imperium »
Obfuscated, better?
@@Fayheurblode Being redeemed in the Imperium’s eyes is simply taking whatever punishment they deem horrid enough and basically telling them they were right.
And they wonder why so many people turn to chaos.
An insane inquisitor? You don't say, Arch..
32:00 It's like the 40k version of pringles, once you pop... you can't stop.
15:00 rabbit hole... so is there a possible Slaaneshi daemon sword of bestiality somewhere too?
God I hope
Shitting sword would be loved in XX century by Wietnameses.
Yes
Aren’t you supposed to be fiddle fucking around with Cegorach?
Its called the Pig Sticker ;)
Ohnonono Sargon, the Blood Ravens FIND things, or get gifts! Steal? Nonono, they don’t do any of THAT!
Btw, can we get a Blood Raven Chapter lore video, please?!
There's certainly enough material to use for that, they also might be the sons of Spiky Tits.
"And then the Grey Knights appeared".
Surviving this sort of thing is one of the luckiest breaks you can get in literally any sci-fi setting.
I've just given up....he will never make a video on the glorious Templars.....it is over brothers.
A Random Crusader - Never give up brother! He got to the heresy, with Dorn getting a miniature it's only a matter of time before KILL MAIM VIDEO!
The Wayfarer
Perhaps brother....perhaps.
You've got a full Helsreach movie yesterday :D Also hope is the first step to disappoitment
Vindicare
Helsreach is glorious that is indeed true.
Well if I don´t get my Space Wolfs... Seems we both have to wait for a really long Time... :-(
You could have a mixed chapter if all of the genseed for making a marine comes from a single marine. If founding members of a chapter where drawn from different legion stock then you would have various members each purely decended from a different primarch. Much like how a regiment can be amalgamated. Why you would do this is beyond me as different genseed has different characteristics and this would complecate your recruitment and medical needs. Who wants to deel with the canis helix, the black rage and the Dornite stick up the arse? Not me.
Listening to Arch lore is so compfy on a Friday night.
Every night when im lying in my bed I fall asleep listening to one of your warhammer videos. Thanks for being my nanny I guess
Huh. You do that too? Here I thought I was weird.
I discovered this channel (and 40K lore in general) through a random video that popped up in autoplay while I was watching other content about fictional civilizations and such. Nice to listen to something to clear your mind while you try to fall asleep, and I have tinnitus (ringing in the ears) really bad so it's difficult for me to fall asleep without playing some sort of sound to drown out the 'HNNNNNG!!!' noise. I've never played any of the 40K games (video games or tabletop stuff) or read any of the books. But I ended up finding it interesting and at this point I feel I've listened to about 90% of the quality 40K lore videos that exist hehe. By now I feel I know pretty much every major lore point and chapter and race and important battle or event in this universe and I've never touched the official WH40K stuff - could write a mini encyclopedia on it thanks to this stuff!
So anyway, not only in this channel interesting, but it's genuinely helpful for those of us with restless minds or who have other reasons that require they play some sort of audio to help them fall asleep. =)
You are not alone haha.
Such a soothing, loyal voice
"humble blood angels opinion..." a fellow son of the great angel, I am glad to hear that!
31:00 even with the whole betrayer thing I hear that Kharn is a pretty swell guy.
Khârn sél kükeez! Doo spess mehreens wuntz kükees? Khârn mækz skull kükeez! Déy hæz blođ cheepz!
Just a question, are you thinking to going go back to beast arises series (if i remember right, you left after book 6/12?)?
ya your right where is this vids dad
Honestly, the Beast Arises were some of my favorite Arch lore videos (third only to the War for Armageddon and the Horus Heresy ones). Really would like to hear more on the novel series.
How could you post a comment 1 day ago when the video was released today?
CAUGHT YOU MARTY MCFLY
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Breast arises.
So, let's compare swords with pebbles and see if i get this one right...
A power sword is like a pebble, that when thrown at someone, hits with the equivalent force of brick.
A greater demonic sword is a pebble that will make the individual instantly catch fire, explode and melt, though not necessarily in that order.
... And the black blade is the unstable thermonuclear god-pebble, instantly exploding in the near proximity of the target, with the equivalent force of a 70 gigaton nuclear warhead...
So...
...
Stay away from Black Blade.
I think i got it. o_o
*Coughs* Mmmmmm did someone say Chaose against Chaos?
Your delivery of "uhhh........what?" was perfect. These guys are neat, I hope we see more of them too.
Got to catch them all! CHAOS ARTIFACTS
CHAOS is to Chaotic to control... Relictors are still active, Brother Techmarine Torqhuil was an ally of Lord Inquisitor Bronislaw Czevak(Atlas Infernal)
that fluff is retconned
Please, Arch. Do one about the Squats and their Armory. One mind syndicate, 40k Theories, and Vaults of Terra have already covered them. You're the only one left who hasn't covered them.
Wouldnt that make him covering them a bit... redundant? There is topics he can spend his time better on.
Yeah but unlike 1ms he'd be interesting and not just reading verbatum of Lexicanum/Codex Imerialuas...
I agree with lord boofhead. Arch would talk about them in his own way rather than reading directly from the lexicanum or the wiki, while also providing his opinion on the bearded little guy's lore and armory. It would be fun and interesting to listen on his take on the Squats. Also some of their kit is unique, like the Mole Mortar that shoots essentially land torpedoes into the ground that dig their way to the enemy, pop up, and explode.
Also, I wouldn't mind if he included the Demiurg in his video
I don't think they ever meant that the Relictors were Genetically both Dark Angels and Ultramarines but culturally they have aspects of being mostly codex complaint but having an "inner circle" formation of brothers who are aware of the Chapter's "unusual habits"
thank you so much for doing this, Ive been waiting for a Relictor break down for ages.
Can you do a Space Marine Chapter armory review?
Vindicare Bloody magpies?
Thieving blood ravens? What are you talking about? every relic was generously donated of course!
I like how you brought the background music back , makes a good video even better .
I like the idea of a rogue inquisitor using them for his own ends, but i agree that the basic story needs a rewrite; even space marines arent naive enough to think that they can just attack another imperial organization, particularly the inquisition, with impunity. The way i'd probably write the story would be that, as the Fire Claws starting out, they knew what they were being asked to do was wrong, but thought doing so would benefit the Imperium in the end. Even so, they didnt want to make it obvious it was them that attacked the inquisition, so they spray painted some of their armor and ships, operating under the guise of the Relictors as a cover. They would leave a guy alive to tell the Imperium it was the Relictors who attacked them, but since nobody had ever heard of this chapter before it wouldve been harder to make the connection with the Fire Claws. Eventually, though, they knew they'd be caught out, but they still believed their methodology was an effective one and wanted to continue it, so they made a deal with the inquisition when it showed up, handing over the rogue inquisitor and most of their chaos weapons in exchange for some being 'misplaced due to clerical error', or some such bs. I think that'd make a much better story.
So basically, the Relictors 100-year penitent crusade turned into a feature-length Antiques Roadshow. ;-)
I think their next logical move should be to make a infiltration of a inquisitorial artifacts vault, and subsequently performing an assault on it.
All inquisition, and related personnel are deemed expendable, no lives left within the vault upon the Relictors leaving.
And just to ya know spice things up, we'll say one Inquisitor barely is able to cling to life after the massacre, and is able to finger the relictors...
It's PERFECT!!
GW, greenlight this story direction post haste!
Another fantastic lore video. Thank you Arch!
I heard that Angron's Black Blade was forged by the Dark Mechanicum after he ascended to Daemon Prince.
So in a sense, the Relictors are basically a more sane version of the Dark Angels.
Doing a lot of shifty business, intentional or otherwise, but they don't get away with it.
A Blood Angel? Hail Battle-Brother. Sanguinius was indeed one to look up to.
My dear Arch, your lore videos are the joy of my life. Keep up with the good work.
Well, Tzeentch was quite busy in keeping people in Inquisitorial vaults alive. 'Just as planned!'
Am I the only one that swallows a lung laughing when Arch calls him Rowboat Girlyman?
Just when I thought I had to wait a while for more lore videos....You are the best!!!!!!
Relictors and Blood Ravens sound exactly the same
The Blud Raivens (Boreale accent) are not stupid enough to think they could fight chaos with chaos.
Yeah the Relictors only swipe useful stuff. Not the lost left buttcheek grieve of Rogal Dorn...
The difference is one of them is a thieving, chaos-worshipping chapter, and the other one's the exact same thing but not bothering to hide it.
Isnt it more likely that they painted their gear red and started calling themselves Blood Ravens in the end?
We shall redeem them with the same Holy Flames that Guiliman's bastards shall leave this world screaming in. Mixing ANY geneseed with Gullible's bastards WILL earn both the offending world AND the heretics involved a visit by quite a few Inquisitors.
Indiana Relictor.
MAKE IT HAPPEN
Oh and Kharn was at the first battle for Armageddon his favorite space wolf quotes is because he was there.
CAME here after listening to heart of decay for 4.75 for half an hour and it was really good featuring the relictors and a captured member of the death guard who else has listend to it
Gotta say, love what you do and that you keep doing it. Keep at it man
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Ironically one of the powers associated with Daemon Weapons is Daemonbane which means the Daemon inside is so jealous of other daemons that the Daemon weapon is super effective against Daemons.
Time for the morning rites with my Reclusiarch Arch
Sigismund: My sword is black.
Relictors: Your sword is white as snow compared to OUR black blade.
Oh yes lets go up that rabbit hole Arch's next vid all the things that can excite a Chaos God
Fuck yeah, got to it early!
Amazing job as always Arch.
Great Video/Story! I love hearing you talk about everything in WH40K! Thanks again!
"Would be like sending a potted plant into the sun". God that made me laugh way more than it should have.
7/10 needs more tyrannids
Risakisa yes we do
The Relictors: “this is mine, and this is mine, and this is mine, and this is mine.”
Relictors and Blood Magpies are the 2 most interesting chapters. the way they skirt heresy makes them so good for narratives than the goody goody chapters.
Who wrote their fluff? Was it the bloody alpha legion, cos their fluff seems to be all over the place.
I love your Warhammer 40k lore video. You can learn something and laugh a little. Chaos lore is my favourite. Dear Arch, could you make video about Crimson Slaughter Renegede Space Marine Chapter cause they're insane :D
Thanks a tonne for these Arch. I have been needing something to distract from reality and politics and binging your lore has done it!
gorefather could be a gift from Angron to one of his followers and this is why the axe was there, because the user was kill in the sanctuary.
Anyone notice that Abaddon the Despoiler, and Guilliman have the same voice? Listen to the videos on GWs TH-cam channel.
GoreFather could have been used as foundation for constructing Angron's monolith, as sort of focus point for chaos.
I bet it was the same poor guy that made it through all three raids. NOT AGAIN! *hides in supply closet.*
Use the demon sword to make a super armor piercing shell for whatever large gun you happen to have on hand. You don't even have to melt it down. Just make a sabot for it and kablamo it at the enemy's tanks or titans or small grumbly mascots
More heresy?! The Emperor shall hear of this!
Eliphas, open the portal!
Eliphas: No! I think not!
5:00 I mean technically you could have a hybrid chapter, provided you're very careful to not mix the organs from different gene-seeds. It would require the kind of care for ancestry that would put Mormons to shame, though.
Not really. Brand an S for smurf on the girliemen and make sure their geneseed goes in the blue tank instead of the green tank.
"Bloody magpies"
Have you been to Australia Arch?
This chapter replys to lots of E-mails about those tyranid stealth bioforms.
Blood Ravens!!!!!!! BOLT EVERYTHING DOWN
Too late! The damn Deathskull Orks already stole all the bolts... along with the entire building!
Lock the reliquary!
28:39 tehy pissed off everyone by leaving armageddon, including the orks
less shinies to crunch with
Wouldn't it be funny if a space marine chapter wanted to stop an inquisitor from moving around or onto there ship by leaning a demon sword/artifact on the button for the door leaving the hangar or their "room"
combination of blood angels and- wait, what? fucking what? Hans, get the luger quick!
"Death of Hope full trailer" must watch if you are 40 k fan
Imperium: Stop stealing from our vaults, this is the second time now!
Relictors: Sure thing m8.
Also Relictors: *Loots 12 more vaults*
Space Marine Chapters with mixed Geneseed are possible and given in the Canon!!! First one are the Grey Knights! The Hawk Lords are another Example and some White Dwarf Articles saying it is possible and some times done.
40k Theories even went over their insane vehicles, like the Leviathan, Colossus, and the Cyclops. They even have a mortar that shoots a land torpedo that burrows through the ground towards the enemy.
Man some of these Space Marine Chapters are just named the most...Well self fulfilling way.
True chaos is only chaotic neutral!
I once heard the story of how Lion El Johnson....Became a member of the blood ravens. Let me take you back, back to the days when the blood ravens were looting the rock. They once came upon a strange, giant man sleeping in the heart of the rock. And like any other good collector when presented with a fascinatingly giant man they didn't know....Decided that he was in clear need of "rescuing", so tied him up, and carried him out together! Back aboard their strike cruiser, they gently probed the man...And when he woke up. He tried to convince them he wasn't the biggest space marine they evah saw, but a primarch. To which they informed him, hippity hoppity, you're now our property. And had their techmarine make him a set of power armor. Of course in the blood raven's colors. And like that, lion became an official member of the chapter, and helped the ravens loot their way across the galaxy. Coming to see that the blood ravens were an objectively better chapter than his legion had become. And deciding he was happier with the clepto's that literally looted him from his own legion's base, than dealing with his sons who forgot what the fuck the first legion was. He was so disappointed that the thought of actually being a primarch kinda lost its interest. Besides, there was so much interesting stuff to loot. Like did you know horu----I've been infomed by Captain Johnson that I shouldn't tell you about horus' special things.
You're welcome for that story.
So glad you gave the soul drinkers a mention :)
The Decleration of Tratorus Excomunuicatus/ Grey Knight reaming was retconed away when the first incarnation of the 13th Black Crusade was retconned.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the early Rogue Trader books, era and fluff/lore - with a focus on the lesser xeno races and what happened to them since/are they still cannon. I for one loved the weird style and some of the races *cough*saharduin*cough* back then and would love to see them gaining a new chance at flourishing now with the warpstorm ripping the imperium in half.