Remove the front vertical bracket and then adjust the front two rollers to support the belt. This configuration is used for contour sanding. You are missing the table and disc sander. Remove and oil the bearings on the aluminum rollers. I have one of these.
Today the mate and I will take a pickup load of firewood to a friend who's having some difficult times. If you want to give yourself a Christmas present, do something for someone who needs a bit of help. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from North Carolina farm country to all the hard-working men and women - some of whom will be working tomorrow on Christmas Day - who keep this country moving.
The blue (1st) sander looks like a lot of less expensive sanders which all use 1” x 42” belts. Zirconia belts work best on metal. The bracket you removed is the bottom mount for the table for a disc sander, usually a 6” or 8” disc. I had an identical one under a house brand name. I wore out the belt sander part and removed it, leaving the base and disc sander which I now use in my workshop. Works great.
35 yrs ago I was into woodworking (stop it). I gave a Grizzly catalogue to a friend for his woodworking shop. He ordered a small lathe at a great price. It lasted 1/2 day and I was informed that it was a piece of excrement. The Delta when it fails will have a second life attached to the bow via chain or line of your lake cruiser. Thanks for tinkering. Narragansett Bay
I found photos of that unit online. Made by Delta and Rockwell. The two small idler pulleys can both be placed in two different positions towards front or back for inside and outside sanding.
Hey Mustie,,,, glad to hear your dulcet tones,,,,i never miss any of your vids and i think your a wizard buddy, you and your family have a very merry christmas and a happy new year, lots of love from Scotland,,,,2024 is the year of the MUSTIE1 love JP.
I have an older model but I think you have a Belsaw “Belstar” belt grinder. I have the paperwork and some take 42” belts and some take 44” belts. They are still in business as the Foley-Belsaw company and you can download the belt order form. They also cross reference which of their belts fits similar machines of other manufacturers, including Delta. These sanders were sold primarily for sharpening knives, shears, mower blades, etc. I run three riding mowers and I use a rough grit belt followed by a 120 or so finish grit on my blades. I bought my Belsaw for $25 at a garage sale. It works well for its intended use.
I think the one Musti got a hold of was a cheap china copy. Belsaw/ Foley made quality stuff as my dad sharpened saws for years and most of their stuff out lasted him.
Hi Mustie. Thanks for the video. You have made everybody’s year so much better. Here’s hoping you and your family have a very Merry Christmas!!!! Thanks for all of your hard work making awesome videos!!! D
I'm thinking it needs a longer belt so it wraps further around the bottom wheel, goes around the wheel above it and then around the wheel at the back. This as you said would improve belt cooling and would account for the placement of the small wheel at the bottom.
Might help with the tracking, too. I suspect inadequate belt wrap is why the belt's stepping out--the crown only works when it has traction. When the motor kicks on, the belt jumps sideways, like it's slipping then, too.
Darren, that first belt sander is designed to use the platen, or use it without, on the aluminum (aluminium) rollers, to possibly do anything other than a flat sanding.
Thanks for all of the entertainment Mustie! I had a hot tub motor doing the same thing. The dust from the brushes caused a ground fault. Can of contact cleaner and it was good to go. Merry Christmas to all!
The motor Darren has doesn't have any brushes in it. It is an induction motor. They can get leaky to the case though. I've seen them so bad they can light up a light bulb.
Hi Mustie, You ROUTED the BELT INCORRECTLY on the first sander. The IDLER WHEEL above the drive pulley serves an important function. The sandpaper belt is supposed to do a nearly full wrap around the drive pulley and then pass behind and over that idler wheel above the drive pulley BEFORE going back to the lower idler wheel on the right side. This will make sure the sandpaper belt doesn't slip on the drive pulley. That will stop it from walking off the drive pulley under load. I love ALL your videos, and I figured the old sander deserves second chance at life.
Came here to say the same thing part way though the video. That idler right above the drive pulley is there for a reason... super easy to see when Monday morning quarterbacking 😂
Hey Mustie, Great Videos. You are definitely the "Roadkill" of small engines and everthing in between. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Look forward to next year.
One of the best tools in the world is the 72" belt sander. But probably you must build it your self. There is a lot of things to buy to construct a belt sander like that. I you are a knife maker it is your best friend. Thanks Mustie for all you great videos. I have watch you for years.
I owned a similar sander...a Delta...oiled the same spots...Using WD-40...the unit went up in flames... so I believe I have parts available if you need any... I have other stuff and a Generac [Craftsman] generator... 40 years old... carb and governor issues that can use some troubleshooting...I'm 15 miles away! Videos are entertaining and informative...Sundays with coffee! thanks!
A Mustie1 Christmas Eve bonus. The best pressie possible!. Thank you Darren, like many others your inspiring and ingenious solution videos, coupled with your joy in poodling around the homestead on the fixed result, give immense pleasure to many,many followers. Thank you again for the last 12 months of fun and frollick and wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Unfortunately, that first belt sander strives hard to have at least harbor freight quality, but fails. Merry Christmas to you, sir and thank you for all the videos.
Hello there. Reguards from the UK. That bottom pulley I think you will fine the sanding best should go round the back of that. So the belt got more surface area on the drive pulley. That would give it more traction and stop it walking off. Happy Christmas to you all. 😮
One suggestion for this setup, spring loaded drives do not work well. If you wanted, it may be saved by putting a jack/tension type screw on the upper arm to keep it from jumping around and launching the belt. Thanks for another entertaining video and Merry Christmas to all!
Hey Mustie, 2 things, first as you once mentioned i also think that the cover on the "weak" side was supposed to beef up the rigidity and help with tracking, however i dont think that it would be worth the hastle to make one. Secondly, there are "DIY" belt sanders, the biggest one uses 2/72 belts. There are plans out there on the internet for totally free, some of them even come with an amazon shopping list. With all your stuff laying around im farely certain that it wouldnt run you more than a couple of hundred dollars and it would be a really cool video. You tend to go into great detail in your videos and most of the videos around theese homebuilt belt sanders are lacking to say the least. I mean you got the steel, you got motors and pullies, maybe you could even put one together without spending any money. Thoose things are really heavy duty, they cut high carbon tool steel like butter. Besides that, happy holidays!
Most sanders like that have a support behind the belts, where you sand like the smaller one, thanks for sharing, Wishing you and your loved ones a Merry Christmas and a Healthy and Prosperous New Year
Best of the season to you. A belt will track to the point of most friction, the high point on the roller. That is why they are shaped the way they are. As you change the angle of the roller you change the high point, the point of contact. As such the belt will will move under load if there is a change in roller attitude due to torsional change.
For the ground problem with your motor, open the cover for the capacitor and make sure that neither of the wires have come loose. I had a similar issue and thought I was going to have to replace a 2hp motor on a table saw (that came with my house). It turned out that I just needed to replace a blade connector on one wire.
Mustie is an anachronism in his own time. Back when all boys tinkered growing up, had shop and woodworking classes in school and then grew up to read Popular Mechanics and could follow any project plan within its pages. Nowadays most folks can't handle machinery or tools and only 1 in 100 can fix another man's trash.
Speak for yourself...Most people just need what we got. a proper education or at least an introduction into mechanics and woodwork. Blame schools and those that run them and not people and especially in America, blame the lawsuit culture of if anyone gets a fingernail ground down a little bit from using a machine then the school will be looking at some ridiculous billion dollar damages claim... but the sad outcome to that is that no one is trained to use tools or anything properly. So when they grow up an "uneducated know nothing" and use the tools they buy. They then get into more accidents in the long run because they have no experience or teaching and have no one to sue as it was them doing it to their undereducated selves... Sad but true... So the overprotective lawsuit culture people grow up in means some get a large payouts for accidents playing the victim etc. But for the rest it means a lack of education and training in best practices, thereby it protects them less in reality, as training and experience usually equates to competence and safety...
Back then automobile owners manuals told you how to adjust valve clearances and check ignition timing. Now owners manuals tell you not to drink the contents of the battery. :/
@@TheBrookianI think you'd be hard pressed to adjust the valves on an overhead cam engine or pedestal mount rockers that everything has had since the 1980s. Don't call an entire generation stupid because engineering has changed how complicated things are.
Fair point. I'm 41, and I learned how to adjust valves and points and stuff like that on my first car because i had a dad that made me, because he wanted to teach me to be mechanically self-sufficient. It worked. It was annoying at first, but became like a sweet rhythm and routine. Some OHC engines do have a solid valvetrain, but you're right that most don't. Ignition on any car built in the last 40 years is also non-adjustable, and fully electronic. Our generation (and younger) mostly don't know the old stuff, but if they are the "take it apart and see how it works" type, now they typically do it with computers, Arduino, Raspberry Pi, 3D printing, etc. I totally agree that just because it may not look the same, doesn't mean it's dead. I am really lucky to have had a dad who stuck around, knew stuff, wasn't a douchnozzle, and was willing to teach me. I'm thankful for that because that really IS going away.@@MCEvanLong
Much longer belt needed. The bottom plastic wheel has the belt go WAY around it, under the aluminum one, then up and over the bottom aluminum wheel and then back to the rear, and then to the top pair.
Hey Mustie, I want to thank you for a year of great entertainment and knowledge. We really appreciate all the effort you put these projects. Merry Christmas, and have a great new year.
Merry Christmas to you Darren. Many years ago I worked at a tool repair company and I always told people that if they wanted their tools to last longer, periodically low the sawdust of their tools. It will coat the motors and get into the bushings and bearings and gum everything up. Obviously whomever had these sanders did zero maintenance.
I have one of the Grizzly belt sander I bought new in 1998 like the one in this video. It is fine for light duty sanding on wood and the thin belt gets into tight places well. Still has all the original parts and belt guards. Merry Christmas Musti1 and thanks for entertaining me every Sunday morning.
Hi Mustie. Like your style, so laid back. The 4" belt sander likely has a relay starter. It requires gravity to disengage. You turning it on it's side stopped it from disengaging the start winding. It was getting hot and would have burned out it left on it's side. Have a happy Christmas.
That bracket you removed from the side of the belt sander was the mount for the table for the sanding disc that mounted to the motor shaft. Very common, belt-disc sander combos.
Thanks once again mustie, i think the belt goes behind the strip of metal you were pressing against. This way the two ilders top and bottom would be connected and make the belt tension right, tony uk😊😊😊😊
The two aluminum idler pullies are for inside sanding. The belt is threaded threw an opening in the work piece and threaded in front of the two idler pullies. Merry christmas.
I never see good junk like this on the side of the road. The best DIY sander ive seen used the guts of a treadmill for power and speed control. Maybe just keep scrounging for a fancy treadmill for free? 72" x 2" is the size you were talking about at the end.
The 1” sander was also made by Rockwell and I have one. It’s run perfectly for years and I got it when it was 20+ years old. Your wheels look well worn but that’s probably it.
51:57 You might have to take it apart and lube the felt. A lot of older electric motors have a felt against the bearing that holds the oil. The felts get dirty with old oil. So you open the motor and clean the felts, re-oil them and you're good to go.
This was a fun video, one i never expected. Here's a kick, add a sewing machine foot pedal for varying speed for different projects. Thanks for all the projects, you are the best mechanical engineer on the internet!! Thanks from Phoenix Arizona
There would be a disc sander attached to the motor drive shaft. That bracket, loosely attached, supports a table with a small miter gauge. You can see how the table could be tilted. Should be a table on front for the 1” belt, too.
Merry Christmas Darren. Wishing you and your family a wonderful festive season. Awesome video and thank you for all of the time and effort you put in for us.
sorry for commenting while the video is going but thats how I am. If I waited you would have adressed what I commented on already but as you were oiling we could see the oil going past the bearing into the motor... then smoke lol Awesome.
If any one can mustie can that was great Merry Christmas and Happy new year to you and yours and a great 2024 Mustie I watched your first video and every one after
I use a cheap 1 inch belt for sharpening knives. Very little load on the belt. I use Klingspor abrasives for my belts. They even sell leather strop belts. This type of sander does an incredible job on kitchen knives. I dose the leather belt with some jewelers rouge to finish the sharpening. Our kitchen knives are incredibly sharp.
I need to get one of those--I have a lot of dull machetes and knives that have stayed dull because sharpening them by hand is very labor intensive. What kind do you have?
The first (blue) sander bracket held a tilting table for a disk for sanding where that pully is now. I have one of these that is pretty much original. Yes super cheap-o! Those motors are about $200 bucks now! Bought one of those Delta 4 inch belt sanders at a flea market. Mine makes the same noise. Found out that the single set screw inside the drive roller comes loose all the time and makes noise. It's a 1/4-20 Allen set screw. When the belt stops as you increase pressure the set screw could be the cause.
I worked in a machine shop for 20 years. Those 1" sanders are not meant to handle a load! It's a deburring sander. We bought them from MSC or Enco. Only used them for light deburring of parts off the mills and lathes.
The first one you worked on is a Reliant DD22 sander. The original had a flat disk on the side of the motor also. the piece you took off was to support the table. Sold by Woodworkers Warehouse in the mid to late 90s. There was a cover on the top of the arm, and another cover down by the platen. It also had a table that was to the front of the platen.
@bigguy_33. I'm with you bigguy. I'm sick of all the people who announce that they've poured their coffee, sat in their favorite chair and are ready to watch mustie1 for their Sunday ritual. They never even make a comment about the video itself.. their comments are about themselves but not the video!
On the first one, I think the aluminum pulleys are there for when you want to run without the platen for shaping, rather than having the platen to support edge work. YMMV.
Merry Christmas this is my gift to you. change the wire. Make sure the neutral goes directly to the motor. The ground goes to the frame. The hot goes to the switch then out of the second terminal on the switch to the motor, task completed.
Nice heavy work bench Matt . Love your videos , long time fan . Merry Christmas brother to you and the family . I always look forward to the next exciting video .
Marry christmas to you and your family, FYI the piece on the side of the first one was what was left of a side table for a sanding disk. The table could be adj. for angles and would have a adj. cross slide in a tee slot. not a big money sander But it would do if that was all you had, as long as you took your time and didn't push it to hard.
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Hi guys just wanted to wish you all a merry christmas thank you you all for hangin out with me playin with junk,
Merry Christmas Mustie, have a great one!
Merry Christmas Mustie!
Merry Christmas. Thank you for all the great videos.
Merry Christmas to you and your family stay safe and it's always fun watching you play with (Stuff) junk lol
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too
Mustie, that plug you jumpered for the motor was a connection for a foot switch to operate that sander.
Remove the front vertical bracket and then adjust the front two rollers to support the belt. This configuration is used for contour sanding. You are missing the table and disc sander. Remove and oil the bearings on the aluminum rollers. I have one of these.
Today the mate and I will take a pickup load of firewood to a friend who's having some difficult times. If you want to give yourself a Christmas present, do something for someone who needs a bit of help. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from North Carolina farm country to all the hard-working men and women - some of whom will be working tomorrow on Christmas Day - who keep this country moving.
I'm in WNC. Merry Christmas
Bless you and Merry Christmas from Topsail Beach NC!
Merry Christmas from Wilmington!
Only mustie can make an hour video interesting about belt sanders
The blue (1st) sander looks like a lot of less expensive sanders which all use 1” x 42” belts. Zirconia belts work best on metal. The bracket you removed is the bottom mount for the table for a disc sander, usually a 6” or 8” disc. I had an identical one under a house brand name. I wore out the belt sander part and removed it, leaving the base and disc sander which I now use in my workshop. Works great.
My Sunday is now complete ! Thanks Darren
35 yrs ago I was into woodworking (stop it). I gave a Grizzly catalogue to a friend for his woodworking shop. He ordered a small lathe at a great price. It lasted 1/2 day and I was informed that it was a piece of excrement. The Delta when it fails will have a second life attached to the bow via chain or line of your lake cruiser. Thanks for tinkering. Narragansett Bay
I found photos of that unit online.
Made by Delta and Rockwell.
The two small idler pulleys can both be placed in two different positions towards front or back for inside and outside sanding.
Hey Mustie,,,, glad to hear your dulcet tones,,,,i never miss any of your vids and i think your a wizard buddy, you and your family have a very merry christmas and a happy new year, lots of love from Scotland,,,,2024 is the year of the MUSTIE1 love JP.
I have an older model but I think you have a Belsaw “Belstar” belt grinder. I have the paperwork and some take 42” belts and some take 44” belts. They are still in business as the Foley-Belsaw company and you can download the belt order form. They also cross reference which of their belts fits similar machines of other manufacturers, including Delta.
These sanders were sold primarily for sharpening knives, shears, mower blades, etc. I run three riding mowers and I use a rough grit belt followed by a 120 or so finish grit on my blades.
I bought my Belsaw for $25 at a garage sale. It works well for its intended use.
I think the one Musti got a hold of was a cheap china copy. Belsaw/ Foley made quality stuff as my dad sharpened saws for years and most of their stuff out lasted him.
Merry Christmas, Mustie. Thanks for the years of videos and sharing what you know.
Hi Mustie. Thanks for the video. You have made everybody’s year so much better. Here’s hoping you and your family have a very Merry Christmas!!!! Thanks for all of your hard work making awesome videos!!! D
24:52 reminds of the time as a kid i pulled the cig lighter out of a 1970 Galaxie. It was glowing red inside so touched it to see if it was hot 🤣
I think the nod to safety is the use of insulated needle nose pliers. I appreciate that.
I'm thinking it needs a longer belt so it wraps further around the bottom wheel, goes around the wheel above it and then around the wheel at the back. This as you said would improve belt cooling and would account for the placement of the small wheel at the bottom.
The bottom spare wheel is for support if you remove the flat plate as a secondary setup...
Might help with the tracking, too. I suspect inadequate belt wrap is why the belt's stepping out--the crown only works when it has traction. When the motor kicks on, the belt jumps sideways, like it's slipping then, too.
I figured someone else posted this before me😊
Yes
Longer belt needs to wrap around bottom pulley then around smaller one to the back then smaller one to the top
Darren, that first belt sander is designed to use the platen, or use it without, on the aluminum (aluminium) rollers, to possibly do anything other than a flat sanding.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all!
Thanks Darren for another year of brilliant content.
Thanks for all of the entertainment Mustie! I had a hot tub motor doing the same thing. The dust from the brushes caused a ground fault. Can of contact cleaner and it was good to go. Merry Christmas to all!
The motor Darren has doesn't have any brushes in it. It is an induction motor. They can get leaky to the case though. I've seen them so bad they can light up a light bulb.
Hi Mustie, You ROUTED the BELT INCORRECTLY on the first sander. The IDLER WHEEL above the drive pulley serves an important function. The sandpaper belt is supposed to do a nearly full wrap around the drive pulley and then pass behind and over that idler wheel above the drive pulley BEFORE going back to the lower idler wheel on the right side. This will make sure the sandpaper belt doesn't slip on the drive pulley. That will stop it from walking off the drive pulley under load. I love ALL your videos, and I figured the old sander deserves second chance at life.
Came here to say the same thing part way though the video. That idler right above the drive pulley is there for a reason... super easy to see when Monday morning quarterbacking 😂
Hey Mustie, Great Videos. You are definitely the "Roadkill" of small engines and everthing in between. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Look forward to next year.
One of the best tools in the world is the 72" belt sander. But probably you must build it your self. There is a lot of things to buy to construct a belt sander like that. I you are a knife maker it is your best friend. Thanks Mustie for all you great videos. I have watch you for years.
Merry Christmas Mustie to you and your loved ones. I always enjoy your adventures.
I owned a similar sander...a Delta...oiled the same spots...Using WD-40...the unit went up in flames... so I believe I have parts available if you need any... I have other stuff and a Generac [Craftsman] generator... 40 years old... carb and governor issues that can use some troubleshooting...I'm 15 miles away! Videos are entertaining and informative...Sundays with coffee! thanks!
Thank you for all your videos sir. Just what i needed . Just got home from the hospital after having hip surgery. Marry Christmas everyone
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Mustie and Mrs Mustie. Season's Greetings to all the fans worldwide!
A Mustie1 Christmas Eve bonus. The best pressie possible!. Thank you Darren, like many others your inspiring and ingenious solution videos, coupled with your joy in poodling around the homestead on the fixed result, give immense pleasure to many,many followers. Thank you again for the last 12 months of fun and frollick and wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Mustie, Wishing you a Great Christmas and Wonderful New Year. Your videos are always a special treat to watch. Take care.
Unfortunately, that first belt sander strives hard to have at least harbor freight quality, but fails. Merry Christmas to you, sir and thank you for all the videos.
Hello there. Reguards from the UK. That bottom pulley I think you will fine the sanding best should go round the back of that. So the belt got more surface area on the drive pulley. That would give it more traction and stop it walking off. Happy Christmas to you all. 😮
One suggestion for this setup, spring loaded drives do not work well. If you wanted, it may be saved by putting a jack/tension type screw on the upper arm to keep it from jumping around and launching the belt.
Thanks for another entertaining video and Merry Christmas to all!
Hey Mustie, 2 things, first as you once mentioned i also think that the cover on the "weak" side was supposed to beef up the rigidity and help with tracking, however i dont think that it would be worth the hastle to make one.
Secondly, there are "DIY" belt sanders, the biggest one uses 2/72 belts. There are plans out there on the internet for totally free, some of them even come with an amazon shopping list. With all your stuff laying around im farely certain that it wouldnt run you more than a couple of hundred dollars and it would be a really cool video. You tend to go into great detail in your videos and most of the videos around theese homebuilt belt sanders are lacking to say the least.
I mean you got the steel, you got motors and pullies, maybe you could even put one together without spending any money. Thoose things are really heavy duty, they cut high carbon tool steel like butter.
Besides that, happy holidays!
I absolutely support this idea
Ooh yeah, that would be an awesome series.
Merry Christmas Darren. I hope we have a Great 2024 with you.
Most sanders like that have a support behind the belts, where you sand like the smaller one, thanks for sharing, Wishing you and your loved ones a Merry Christmas and a Healthy and Prosperous New Year
Mustie, Merry Christmas and thank you for all the entertainment this year!
Merry Christmas ! Greetings from a snowy Finland. Love your videos!
Best of the season to you.
A belt will track to the point of most friction, the high point on the roller. That is why they are shaped the way they are. As you change the angle of the roller you change the high point, the point of contact. As such the belt will will move under load if there is a change in roller attitude due to torsional change.
For the ground problem with your motor, open the cover for the capacitor and make sure that neither of the wires have come loose. I had a similar issue and thought I was going to have to replace a 2hp motor on a table saw (that came with my house). It turned out that I just needed to replace a blade connector on one wire.
Thanks for wisdom and mechanical knowledge, we always learn and are entertained 👍
Mustie is an anachronism in his own time. Back when all boys tinkered growing up, had shop and woodworking classes in school and then grew up to read Popular Mechanics and could follow any project plan within its pages. Nowadays most folks can't handle machinery or tools and only 1 in 100 can fix another man's trash.
Speak for yourself...Most people just need what we got. a proper education or at least an introduction into mechanics and woodwork.
Blame schools and those that run them and not people and especially in America, blame the lawsuit culture of if anyone gets a fingernail ground down a little bit from using a machine then the school will be looking at some ridiculous billion dollar damages claim...
but the sad outcome to that is that no one is trained to use tools or anything properly. So when they grow up an "uneducated know nothing" and use the tools they buy.
They then get into more accidents in the long run because they have no experience or teaching and have no one to sue as it was them doing it to their undereducated selves...
Sad but true...
So the overprotective lawsuit culture people grow up in means some get a large payouts for accidents playing the victim etc. But for the rest it means a lack of education and training in best practices, thereby it protects them less in reality, as training and experience usually equates to competence and safety...
Back then automobile owners manuals told you how to adjust valve clearances and check ignition timing. Now owners manuals tell you not to drink the contents of the battery. :/
You're so right. There are so many out there that don't know which end of the screwdriver you hit the nail with.@@danashcroft961
@@TheBrookianI think you'd be hard pressed to adjust the valves on an overhead cam engine or pedestal mount rockers that everything has had since the 1980s. Don't call an entire generation stupid because engineering has changed how complicated things are.
Fair point. I'm 41, and I learned how to adjust valves and points and stuff like that on my first car because i had a dad that made me, because he wanted to teach me to be mechanically self-sufficient. It worked. It was annoying at first, but became like a sweet rhythm and routine. Some OHC engines do have a solid valvetrain, but you're right that most don't. Ignition on any car built in the last 40 years is also non-adjustable, and fully electronic. Our generation (and younger) mostly don't know the old stuff, but if they are the "take it apart and see how it works" type, now they typically do it with computers, Arduino, Raspberry Pi, 3D printing, etc. I totally agree that just because it may not look the same, doesn't mean it's dead. I am really lucky to have had a dad who stuck around, knew stuff, wasn't a douchnozzle, and was willing to teach me. I'm thankful for that because that really IS going away.@@MCEvanLong
Much longer belt needed. The bottom plastic wheel has the belt go WAY around it, under the aluminum one, then up and over the bottom aluminum wheel and then back to the rear, and then to the top pair.
Merry Christmas Mustie and family 🎄👍👍
Merry Christmas. This video was way better than watching uncle Lewis falling asleep at the Christmas dinner. I so enjoy your videos. Cheers Mustie1 !
Hey Mustie, I want to thank you for a year of great entertainment and knowledge. We really appreciate all the effort you put these projects. Merry Christmas, and have a great new year.
Thank you for educating and entertaining us!! Merry Christmas to you too!!
the bracket you took off was part of the adjustment mechanism for the disc sander that was attached directly to the shaft of the motor.
Merry Christmas Mustie to you and your family , Thanks for another year of fun repairs, builds , and wacky adventures.
You are a master of your craft been watching your video's along time kept rocking on.
Merry Christmas to you Darren. Many years ago I worked at a tool repair company and I always told people that if they wanted their tools to last longer, periodically low the sawdust of their tools. It will coat the motors and get into the bushings and bearings and gum everything up. Obviously whomever had these sanders did zero maintenance.
Merry Christmas, all!
Merry Christmas,love your show.😊😊😊😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉
I have one of the Grizzly belt sander I bought new in 1998 like the one in this video.
It is fine for light duty sanding on wood and the thin belt gets into tight places well.
Still has all the original parts and belt guards.
Merry Christmas Musti1 and thanks for entertaining me every Sunday morning.
Send him a pic showing just how the rollers are supposed to be aligned, and/or a scan of the manual.
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Thanks for a great year of videos! J.W. in Mass.
Hi Mustie. Like your style, so laid back. The 4" belt sander likely has a relay starter. It requires gravity to disengage. You turning it on it's side stopped it from disengaging the start winding. It was getting hot and would have burned out it left on it's side. Have a happy Christmas.
That bracket you removed from the side of the belt sander was the mount for the table for the sanding disc that mounted to the motor shaft. Very common, belt-disc sander combos.
Thanks once again mustie, i think the belt goes behind the strip of metal you were pressing against. This way the two ilders top and bottom would be connected and make the belt tension right, tony uk😊😊😊😊
Have a great Christmas and very best wishes for the new year. Thanks for all your interesting videos.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Darren. You are an important part of a lot of people's lives. I'll bet your 5th grade teacher would be surprised!
always a pleasure. see you next year.
The two aluminum idler pullies are for inside sanding. The belt is threaded threw an opening in the work piece and threaded in front of the two idler pullies. Merry christmas.
Chances are strong that the old motor only needs a new capacitor
I never see good junk like this on the side of the road. The best DIY sander ive seen used the guts of a treadmill for power and speed control. Maybe just keep scrounging for a fancy treadmill for free? 72" x 2" is the size you were talking about at the end.
It wasn't in the side of the road. He found it on Facebook marketplace.
@@1pcfredthe guy he picked it up from, got it from marketplace. He gave up on it and put it out on the street for free.
The 1” sander was also made by Rockwell and I have one. It’s run perfectly for years and I got it when it was 20+ years old. Your wheels look well worn but that’s probably it.
I could watch you tinker on anything man merry Christmas to you and your family
Merry Christmas from Fallbrook, California!
Great video, nice seeing vintage gear given a second chance. The first one looks like it's a Foley 371.
Merry Christmas Mustie1 & Every fellow channel watcher too ❤
It is a Dayton 2Z646B. The user manual and exploded parts list is online.
Merry Christmas my friend Mustie1 and family. Another completely awesome year of well needed learning videos from the best. Thank you so much.
51:57 You might have to take it apart and lube the felt. A lot of older electric motors have a felt against the bearing that holds the oil. The felts get dirty with old oil. So you open the motor and clean the felts, re-oil them and you're good to go.
This was a fun video, one i never expected. Here's a kick, add a sewing machine foot pedal for varying speed for different projects. Thanks for all the projects, you are the best mechanical engineer on the internet!! Thanks from Phoenix Arizona
There would be a disc sander attached to the motor drive shaft. That bracket, loosely attached, supports a table with a small miter gauge. You can see how the table could be tilted. Should be a table on front for the 1” belt, too.
Merry Christmas Darren. Wishing you and your family a wonderful festive season. Awesome video and thank you for all of the time and effort you put in for us.
sorry for commenting while the video is going but thats how I am. If I waited you would have adressed what I commented on already but as you were oiling we could see the oil going past the bearing into the motor... then smoke lol Awesome.
Merry Christmas to you and yours and a happy new year thank you for sharing all your amazing videos with us six stars brother
Thank you for another year of informative and entertaining videos Sir.
Seasons greetings to you and yours.
Thanks
If any one can mustie can that was great Merry Christmas and Happy new year to you and yours and a great 2024 Mustie I watched your first video and every one after
Merry Christmas! Thanks for all the years of entertainment!
I use a cheap 1 inch belt for sharpening knives. Very little load on the belt. I use Klingspor abrasives for my belts. They even sell leather strop belts. This type of sander does an incredible job on kitchen knives. I dose the leather belt with some jewelers rouge to finish the sharpening. Our kitchen knives are incredibly sharp.
I need to get one of those--I have a lot of dull machetes and knives that have stayed dull because sharpening them by hand is very labor intensive. What kind do you have?
Dad sharpened mom's kitchen knives. Without fail she got cut every time. So he would have to. "Dull them up a little ". Ahh good times.
The first (blue) sander bracket held a tilting table for a disk for sanding where that pully is now. I have one of these that is pretty much original. Yes super cheap-o! Those motors are about $200 bucks now! Bought one of those Delta 4 inch belt sanders at a flea market. Mine makes the same noise. Found out that the single set screw inside the drive roller comes loose all the time and makes noise. It's a 1/4-20 Allen set screw. When the belt stops as you increase pressure the set screw could be the cause.
I worked in a machine shop for 20 years. Those 1" sanders are not meant to handle a load! It's a deburring sander. We bought them from MSC or Enco. Only used them for light deburring of parts off the mills and lathes.
Merry Christmas Derrin to you and your family. Thanks for the videos u do
The first one you worked on is a Reliant DD22 sander. The original had a flat disk on the side of the motor also. the piece you took off was to support the table. Sold by Woodworkers Warehouse in the mid to late 90s. There was a cover on the top of the arm, and another cover down by the platen. It also had a table that was to the front of the platen.
Wow you gave info on the sander and never said "Mustie your great" or "Having my coffee watching Mustie"
@bigguy_33. I'm with you bigguy. I'm sick of all the people who announce that they've poured their coffee, sat in their favorite chair and are ready to watch mustie1 for their Sunday ritual. They never even make a comment about the video itself.. their comments are about themselves but not the video!
What get's me is a lot of people don't ask questions or input and just say "Your great".@@dannyjamison8337
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along.Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and all your subscribers
Congrats Mustie1, on scarring me when the second sander started to smoke. Engineering at the best.. merry christmas to all.
Mustie, you let the smoke out. It will never run right again!
On the first one, I think the aluminum pulleys are there for when you want to run without the platen for shaping, rather than having the platen to support edge work. YMMV.
Merry Christmas Mustie1, to you and your family!
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Thank you for all your videos Throughout the year of 2023. year🫵‼️
Good morning and Merry Christmas to everyone!!
Merry Christmas to you and yours and thanks for all the entertainment and knowledge throughout the year.
Merry Christmas Mustie 1 and Family.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you.
Merry Christmas this is my gift to you. change the wire. Make sure the neutral goes directly to the motor. The ground goes to the frame. The hot goes to the switch then out of the second terminal on the switch to the motor, task completed.
Good morning Mustie family merry Christmas happy holidays everyone
Nice heavy work bench Matt . Love your videos , long time fan . Merry Christmas brother to you and the family . I always look forward to the next exciting video .
Happy Christmas Mustie great watching your videos in the past year looking forward seeing some more in the new year 🎉👍
Merry Christmas from here in New Zealand Mustie I hope you and your family have a great day
Marry christmas to you and your family, FYI the piece on the side of the first one was what was left of a side table for a sanding disk. The table could be adj. for angles and would have a adj. cross slide in a tee slot. not a big money sander But it would do if that was all you had, as long as you took your time and didn't push it to hard.
Have a good one Mustie.See you in 24.
Happy Holidays! Love your content.