Looooove your content and dedication mate. You’re well researched, fair and considered with your analysis, don’t get too sensational or over emotional, and I appreciate your efforts. Great job. Keep it up.
Thanks for all your hard work and draft coverage mate. As a Tiger, havent really followed the draft that closely for over a decade or so but was soaking up as much content as I could for this dream draft hand, you and many others did great work covering it all and sharing your insights and building the excitement. Look forward to more indepth breakdowns and maybe your future 2025 draft coverage given we now have 2 top picks in the first round! Definitely think we could use some pace or line breaking users to compliment the bulls we already have in the midfield
Good point about the Tigers midfield. It’s looking pretty beastly with Smillie and Lalor joining Tarranto, Hopper, Ross and McAuliffe…. but it does look a touch slow. Definitely need to find some pace in the future to compliment those guys.
they can rotate through but with where they are at they will get smashed. love all those boys and desperately hoping they can win some ball in the middle because that would change everything
Have thoroughly enjoyed watching your channel throughout the season and draft. Such great content and insight on the players and the clubs and really appreciate all the effort you go to! So thank you, keen to follow along next year!
Love your assessment of North mate. IMO it is very much on what North value their picks at. We know North where trying to trade back on since pick 8-27 which speaks volumes of how much each and every club rated their picks. North a paid a big premium to get in. Though to pick Matt Whitlock, someone North rated top 15 on their draft board ☑️ FOS was the obvious choice at pick 2. Rated hotly as the pick 1 leader since beginning of last year for this draft and was hotly contesting that race all the way to draft night. Best of all he replaces the hole that TT leaves in his dismissal. Talent, output, accumulation and overall calibre of potency. FOS at pick 2 is a steal for us Roo's HUGE WRAPS ☑️ Urquhart puzzled me too, yet the disparaging mention of his height across multiple sources is a puzzle. As he's listed at 185-190cm. He's a freakishly strong lad for his age though and his defensive mindset and ability to read the play really well is elite. Gets up in his opponents faces and can really extract the ball from the inside out. Also heard he's done spits and spouts up in the forward line as an additional key Firward at times so fir North to have a strong big bodied mid who can kick goals. I believe we were very much interested in Langford, Smillie and Allen for a time and Urquhart that slightly smaller is very much closer than we think to building to and past their own level. ☑️ Ecstatic about Stevens. Small forward but another one that's different than what we have. Two way running, brilliant goal sense with the nouse to kick them and sticks his tackles to good affect too! ☑️ Overall I think North did incredibly well mate. We paid a premium in our F1st to get in, though with where North's at in our rebuild another Midfielder at a top 6 pick just isn't a need and two F2nds is a mighty fine hand to have fir a staggered recruitment of KPP's and small forwards/utilities moving forward. Very bullish on our recruitments plans to not just succeed the veterans of Parker, Darling and Daniel. But to improve upon with what will one day retire with far stronger young players. Go North
That's a great post. There is potentially 10 Academy prospects to come out of the NSW and QLD academies next season. Our two F2 picks will have a PVI between 7 and 12. We will likely trade those to get back into the 1st round next season. Throw that into the draft and trade hand we have secured, been a good couple months for the list build.
I think maybe because rucks take a few years to develop, the Crows are focusing on targeting an experienced ruckman e.g Draper/Moyle next year. Or maybe even seeing how Taylor Goad develops and try to bring him back home in the near future
Stoked we got North's future 1st round pick. xD was a bit surprised with Faull at pick 14, but the late form was very impressive in the Coates Talent League bit of a bolter & all works out & make sense now... I was worried we were going to miss out on Harry Armstrong when we did that, I can not believe he went pick 23, I thought it would be wishful thinking he'd even be there at our teen picks. I just can't wait watch the progress of our draft haul in future years. 8 players picked WOW!
I agree with the commenters here - would love to see you on fox footy Dylan! Either that or in a role with the kangas. I met one of their draft recruitment guys (frizzy haired bloke) last year at the AFLW grand final - very nice guy and they have a great team)
Mate you were amazing all year. As an Eagles fan our haul was better than my wildest dreams and we retain a huge hand for next year. Looking forward to next year!
Crows didn't have any list spots to trade back in, Was very painful watching Dodson slide as we've been wanting to draft a project ruck for 3 years now (Barnett, Goad and now Dodson) Hopefully a lesson learnt, We should've been more ruthless (Brodie Smith) to give us for more flexibility draft day
100% agree it was very painful watching Dodson slide; I was hoping that he would get through to our pick 59 after he had slid so far because I am sure that we would have taken him with that pick. Something that Hamish said on Gettable just prior to the draft.... we have committed to Tyler Welsh but did not commit to exactly where he would be taken. If we got Dodson at pick 59 then Tyler Welsh would have been a Rookie pick.....and my bet is that it would have been at the expense of Chris Burgess. Ruthless? Yes...but when premierships are the goal you can't always be Mr Nice Guy.
@@kadachiman7234 I'm not sure we would've, If we were prepared to gamble on Welsh making it to the rookie draft we had the draft capital to trade up but we didn't, It should've never been a Welsh v Dodson situation anyway, Letting Smith go on for another year killed any hope of Dodson and It's probably the one real error the clubs made this off season
@@keironlindner9238 Toby Murray has barely spent any time in the ruck in the SANFL, Maybe that changes but so far he looks more a Himmelberg replacement aka depth in case Thilthorpe get's injured
Fellow Kangas man here. Originally I didn't know what to make of trading our Future 1st but after thinking about it, bringing in the talent now might just help us win those extra games, allowing us to lock down LDU long term. Stoked with FOS, and hope River can become half the player his old man was!
Dylan, it may be a good idea to run a fantasy footy video series next year as you seem to know players so well that it will be a benefit to all to hear your analysis.
sadly the crows didnt leave enough list spaces for getting back in for dodson, we could have if we delisted another. poor list management tbh. But draper and welsh is amazing
West Coast's only flaw was the inability to select a player that has elite disposal ability. So many raw athletes and players that are just bigger, faster, stronger on that team but not enough methodical link up players. Gross could be a true bargain, but Shanahan at 30 might be the best pick of the whole draft. They also got Champion as a Cat B rookie which is just incredible, and really they just need a couple of elite 2-way winger options and the team might actually be something
@@stevelewis2080 assume you’re not happy with the Bo Allan selection? I agree he’s not necessarily the player west coast need. I feel he’s a pretty high talent though. Was surprised they didn’t consider Reid though
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft @ 16 Allan was a bargain all things considered, and I think he'll be a great player, but we needed a Jagga Smith, Murphy Reid type and in hindsight Reid would've been perfect had we known we were going to land the players we did...
Great Vid ! I was one of the ones who had a meltdown when pick 3 was traded. Still thought they should have gone Murphy Reid but I think Allan being a homegrown probably put it in his favour. Shanahan is the best pick of the draft. I can see him as a CHB who could pinch hit in the forward line. You can see they have kept next years pick for a crack at Warner who I would say is a better than 50% chance of coming to West Coast. Money and draft picks to do the deal will not be an issue and he has a relationship with Don Pyke.
👍👍👍👍👍👍. With the Tigers getting Faull early I believe the Club that was going to get him was Sydney and the Tigers were not going to take that risk given they were interested in Faull all year after coming back from injury. The Swans are good recruiters as to are Geelong just like the Tigers are so I guess thats telling that if they didn’t get in first we would lost out to Sydney ? The Tigers had to get in first to get one of the players they wanted. Melbourne got in first with one Richmond wanted in Lindsey ? But it work out well as others we wanted in Hotton and Faull we needed to get at those’s picks so Melbourne made that choice easier for Richmond 👍🏆17 🏆19 🏆20 🐅🐅🐅
Norths trade of picks is gold and here’s why. North has enough first round midfield players so having a top 5 pick next year is not a high priority. The player they picked up … where would he be after another year of development ? I would say that if north valued him as a top ten pick ( in terms of priority) then next year he is definitely a top 10 pick. Plus we have a mid to late 20s pick next year. Splitting a first round pick for the picks they got back was well worth it - top ten pick this year and a late 20s pick next year - Gold
I don’t understands Norths logic with that trade. Richmond offered picks 6 and 18 for pick 2 and there might’ve been something else in the deal aswell I can’t remember. But to not take that offer and then trade a future first to the same club for pick 27 and a second rounder… it just looks a bit silly.
Totally agree about Crows & Dodson. Big guys' form can drop off a cliff & the back up is the same vintage, so it's a big risk on ROB to be R1 indefinitely. Unless they see Thilthorpe becoming a ruck beast, it's a huge missed opportunity. Other clubs traded in late for future picks, don't know why they didn't? The routine recycling of mature rucks maybe makes clubs timid to invest in true rucks in favour of the chop out forward-ruck? The tide will eventually turn & a good ruck will monster the hybrids some day.
Dude…… as a WCE man I was pretty depressed at the start of proceedings and then it just escalated!!! Bo was nice but the 2 picks in the 40’s!!!!!! Still got a long way to go but fcking stoked
The Whitlock boys were predicted as the best talls, along with Armstrong all season. With those 2 still on the board, north decided it was still worth moving their first rounder
This is what the tigers recruiters said about Sims. Explains it a bit more .................. Richmond Victorian Recruiting Manager, Rhy Gieschen said that Sims caught the recruiters’ eye with his March fitness testing and early season form. “Tom is a genuine key position size at 199cm, and can mark the ball at the highest point, or bring the ball to ground in high numbered marking situations, a trait we value highly,” he said.
My Thoughts for Richmond ..... Then. .......... Now D.Martin..>>> S.Lalor J.Graham >>>J.Smillie S.Bolton >>>> T.Hotton J.Reiwoldt >>>> J.Faull D.Grimed >>>>> L.Trainor T.Lynch >>>>>. T.Simms S.Edwards >>>> J.Alger. Then to complete H.Armstrong who possibly could be our J. Cameron roaming the forward line. What a crew for the future.
I actually think the North Melbourne pick trade is genius, and may very well be looked upon as a move that changed the club. Matt Whitlock - sure, he may be an amazing player, hope he is, but that's not where the genius lies. What this move does, is it says to the players, the coaches, the fans - "we expect to be a top 8 team next year. we expect that we will be good enough to make this move look good". imagine if north make the finals next year. Imagine. because the talent is there. it's about maturity, unity and confidence now.
The tigers have so many damn tall key position (especially forward) players on their list, it seems like after this year a lot of them won’t be offered future contracts and will have to prove their worth in 2025 with all the new kids in Hopefully can add some lateral midfield quickness in next years draft
Faull was surprising but it feels like they tried to target players with connections to one another with faull playing with Lalor. Hotton, Trainor and Armstrong all having connections with one another, a few tough years are likely to come so getting a tight group (all with high upsides) makes a lot of sense. The midfield is slow, but the core is there to build around and add best midfielders over the next few drafts, hopefully duursma.
Well Done Dylan! Absolute mountain of work with your channel and everywhere else you popped up. Love what the crows did in the draft with the two lists spots they had. I agree about a project ruck but what I would say is in the next couple of years they will have some spots created with Walker, Smith, Laird, Murphy and maybe one of O'Brien or Strachan. So I would be looking to get one of the SA rucks back after serving their apprenticeship at another club. A few SA options out there Sam Draper, Taylor Goad, Jacob Molier and Alex Dodson.
In North's defense as much as it doesn't make sense on first look it actually does when you dive deeper into the players north picked FOS can play wing which is definitely an area north struggle with hopefully Colby and Finn can solidify a spot on both wings and Urqhart is a big bodied defensive mid with elite cardio and speed which again is a need apart from Wardlaw who you want ball in hand is not a 2 way midfield
North tried and tried and tried. Any other year clubs would have been salivating to do the trades north wanted. But just couldn't get it done. I really don't mind trading the future 1st it's just a pick and we have had plenty of first round picks lol
@bomberwarren on face value it's almost a sackable trade but at the end of the day they and almost every other club didn't rate next years draft for varying reasons and if that was the price to pick up a kpp and get an extra year's worth a development into then it is what it is also shows the intent to improve
@zanecallisto4169 this is pure speculation but I have a feeling when we made that trade we thought we had someone willing to trade with on night 2 and they were either playing games with us or something changed. Let's face it north trade back into the second round, grab jack or shanahan and it looks like a masterstroke. Don't do that and we are left with egg on our face a little. I'm not upset by the trade and think most of our supporters are overreacting
@@zanecallisto4169 yeah, my issue is more with the overall strategy. How weren’t they able to split this year etc. I don’t think it’s turned out terribly, but the strategy certainly isn’t clear. The team still has a lot of structural holes and can’t see where they make that up.
@@bomberwarren from all reports I think the plan was to trade into the 2nd round and pick up the other twin but that didn't happen having Richmond's 2nd rounder is handy especially if you can bundle that with their 2nd rounder makes it easy to trade into the first round next year if needed
North supporter here. I think the Whitlock trade was necessary, had to get on the front foot and get a tall this year. Perhaps they would have preferred a different tall, but a tall it was to be. I'm unsure with River Stevens, the small forward role. We have Harvey, Payne, Hansen Jr, Konstanty & now Stevens competing for the same role. 5 small forwards. I guess the preseason will be competitive.
North must feel like they will spike a bit next year say 7-9 wins meaning they end up with pick 6 with all the potential FS and Academy players that 6 might be 12-15th best next year. The trade was the right thing to do if they view it like that plus it's the mentally that they are going to win games.
It was revealed yesterday that Sid Draper rung Nicks 2-3 days prior to the draft to tell him that he would be very keen to come to Adelaide if selected.......I guess this was to squash the rumour doing the rounds 4 weeks earlier saying that Draper did not want to go to the Crows due to how Rachelle was treated.... good move and bold move. Project Ruckman....keep your eyes on what they do with Toby Murray during the preseason and in the SANFL team......201cm, beefy (they don't state wights now) key forward, but do we need him in that position?
I agree that the Eagles pulled something out of the hat. They only had 3 picks in the first 4 rounds (before and after the Baker/Owies deal). Allen should be given a chance on the wing and see if he leapfrogs over other youngsters on the list who aren't performing. Shanahan should replace McGovern at CHB. He will the sixth best tall forward on the list and they need defenders. Meets our needs. I think we need accumulators certainly and pace. That will have to be 2025 where we have five picks in the first 3 rounds.
Adelaide had no list spots to take Dodson, surprised you werent aware of that. Short of paying out a contracted player and therefore salary cap issues was never happening.
I really wish that Faull pick was Joe Berry. Wouldve been a 10/10 draft. I think they went one tall top heavy and one small too light. But its hard to judge a draft as not great off the back of one pick i disagree with. I just think Armstrong and Simms would've been fine and have the higher upside. In a way its a ballsy draft by them to try and set up the spine in one go. Next year both first rounders should be mids. No more talls
Could the bombers be loading up next year for a crack at Harley?!?! Eagles fan here, so they can piss off, but 3/4 first rounders could be on the cards😢
@ yeah definitely. We got a lot of people recovering from ACLs haha. Hopefully no more, especially for Gibcus. Hoping Lynch can have a better year, he was just about the best player in the competition (was averaging a ridiculous amount of goals) for a month or two in 2022, before getting a few injuries and then getting injured the next two years. Obviously he’s not gonna be there for our next premiership but hoping he can lead the way for our forwards
@@pletsas6243 yeah but we we already have Gibson on long term ACL injury ...hotton is good but he will need rehabilitation then a preseason and still may not fully recover you won't see him until 2026 ......well after smile their was only hotton and reid left... Now long term Reid was the safest bet ....
( north ) For a draft that was said to be our last big crack at the draft before looking to really bounce back up. It leaves a lot to be desired, a fair bit underwhelming. Doesn’t feel like a draft that will solidify the young group at the club. Added a few pieces for sure. In terms of gaining a defensive midfielder, you can get them everywhere I would have thought. I thought Will Brodie was a big piece of freos 2022 push into finals, he now plays wafl, just one example but he’d be seasoned and ready to go for an immediately impact. If there’s no need for a brodie type then was there a need for urquhart? It’s a lot easier to recruit that type at a cheap price than a key of any price.
@@tkrosse2274 I don't disagree with your statement but at pick 57 it really is a free hit clubs obviously don't value picks the same as they do the actual player From all reports they had put a lot of time into Urquhart early on in the year they obviously didn't rate any of the key position or small forwards in that portion of the draft highly enough plus with darling parker and Daniel coming in I don't think they would have had the draft capital to being in someone like a Brodie without sacrificing the draft hand more
@ to be fair I would expect a pick like 55 or in that range to get that deal over the line. But that was more of an example of a similar styled player that would be on almost every list that could come in at any time and probably play that role. Apposed to using the pick on someone a little tricker to find and even harder to lure out. But yes, as you mentioned the club clearly didn’t rate any of the available players as highly as urquhart. End of the day, urquhart is a Roo and I’ll full support behind him!
@@harrylederman1679 I was super big on Tauru up until the last week of the draft when North where linked with FOS after watching back games and footage of them one big issue is the lack of spread especially coming out of the midfield FOS is an excellent mover and between him and Mckercher if they can nail down those two wing spots it really does help Plus it was pretty obvious with the trades being offered they rated FOS higher then Tauru and a pick in the mid 20s Wish there was a way to get both but I'll be excited to watch him play next year as he really is a highlight reel in the making
@@zanecallisto4169 there was a way to get both especially when North was willing to trade out their round no. 1 pick for next year ...which is probably going to be another top 3 pick for next year.. gave Richmond even more incentive to split picks incl. No. 6 for this draft ...We all knew they wanted Tauru ideally
So you’re happy with Essendon even though they gave up pick 9 for absolutely no reason. Kako was never going to go top ten so they absolutely botched it.
@@effkay3691 na, if you hold the pick someone bids. You can’t run that risk. You may as well maximise 2025 hand. Same deal with the Gold Coast and pick 6.
@ If another club bids Dylan then they absolutely want the player. No one bids for fun because if the bid is not matched then they are stuck with the player. None of the mail over the last few months had Kako in the top 10. Essendon could have had a player in the top 10 plus Kako. As for us (North), we did very well under the circumstances. Nobody would have been surprised if Whitlock was called out between 15 and 20. At least we get a good tall in this year. If we finish bottom 2/3 next year then an early first rounder won’t help us. Something else will be wrong!
@ yeah, now sure how North and Essendon are related in anyway but there was absolutely interest for Kako top 10. Saints were keen and Melbourne were keen. No club has ever not matched inside the top 20 so I think that’s unrealistic. I’m not super critical of what North did. O’Sullivan is a jet and he improves us. We lack a lot specialist players though. Quality in the small fwds and half backs.
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft I acknowledge that list rebuilds have a trigger point and draft picks are valued on a sliding scale relative to that trigger point. North had Matt Whitlock rated at pick 10 and basically traded him for that value (~5 for 10 & ~19) Are you aware that Norths 2025 1st round pick was on the table at pick 10 (StKilda's 2nd pick) and stayed there along with attached trade/draft pick provisions right up until pick 27? . There's a hell of a lot more nuance to this than some very generic reasoning of a matter regarding two simple numbers. North won three times on draft night, firstly when Richmond bypassed the best player in this draft (O'Sullivan) for what shapes right now as a Jake Stringer clone. Secondly, when they overlooked the much more impressive athletic profiles of the Whitlocks for 2 x Logan McDonald clones in Faull & Armstrong, and thirdly when Urquart slid ~ 20 picks in the draft! What's your thoughts on Richmond choosing Faull at 14 and their F2 over North's F1? Surely by your own logic this is the worst piece of drafting-trading in the entire 2024 draft?
@Andy-o2f how do you know how Sam Lalor is shaping, bro hasn't played afl yet, and on the same note, how do you know that FOS is the best player in the draft like we can all spectacle and value diffrent traits (e.g. Carlton have said Jagga was ranked as their number 1 pick), but until we see these guys play we won't know. With the future deal, we'll have to see how that goes to truly evaluate it, but given that this year pick 3 cost picks 12, 14 and Matt owies, trading what the is speculated to be a top 5 pick (although yet again, it could be alot higher like 18 or lower like 1) for what was pick 27 and something that can't be higher then 19 it comes across as odd, and even if we see Matt Whitlock as pick 10ish, as thats what north veiwed him as, 10 and Richmond's future 2nd for a north future first is still a weird deal from the outside. But will be interesting to see how it plays out in 12 months and beyond
@@DarkhourOfficial like Nathan Buckley? Left a team in pursuit of a premiership only to have the team he left win multiple? If he joins the saints, he will definitely be immortalised, as a loser.
Noah Mraz smart pick nothing super probably would've preferred a moraes but stacking keys for future with frost Sicily barrass 30+ soon is a smart idea, Battle, Mraz, McCabe, scrimshaw, blanck, weddle who can all play that role better in time that battle barrass frost can provide them to grow in coming years.
Dont see anyone pushing Nash or Worpel out, Worpel kicking efficiency and ability has gone up past couple szns, newcombe and day take away from his rise. Nash is more of a lockdown run and gun midfielder in transition who tags mid game also, regularly locks up guys like Cripps, bont etc for periods in games, just because you don't lose much technically when you send nash out to stop someone vs win ball.
This channel is the work of a genius. Far better than alot in the media. Great work throughout the year.
Looooove your content and dedication mate. You’re well researched, fair and considered with your analysis, don’t get too sensational or over emotional, and I appreciate your efforts. Great job. Keep it up.
Thanks for all your hard work and draft coverage mate. As a Tiger, havent really followed the draft that closely for over a decade or so but was soaking up as much content as I could for this dream draft hand, you and many others did great work covering it all and sharing your insights and building the excitement. Look forward to more indepth breakdowns and maybe your future 2025 draft coverage given we now have 2 top picks in the first round! Definitely think we could use some pace or line breaking users to compliment the bulls we already have in the midfield
Good point about the Tigers midfield. It’s looking pretty beastly with Smillie and Lalor joining Tarranto, Hopper, Ross and McAuliffe…. but it does look a touch slow. Definitely need to find some pace in the future to compliment those guys.
Hopefully we pry Jagga out of Carlton in 3 years ;)
Taj Hotton can play midfield
Hotton, Campbell, mrj can all rotate through
they can rotate through but with where they are at they will get smashed. love all those boys and desperately hoping they can win some ball in the middle because that would change everything
@@nickksimomrj definitely cannot play midfield
Great work mate, you were my go to guy for draft insights this season. Looking forward to more of your opinions through out the season.
He was way off tho lol
Mate absolutely love your channel, you should have 30K subscribers!
Pop your name in for the new fox footy talent!? Would love to see it
I'm in Peps from Lace Out AFL Podcast! Boundary rider for me
What an exciting draft, I was wondering if we saw another Irving Mosquito moment..
Great work this year mate, time for a well deserved coldy!
Amazing work mate
Have thoroughly enjoyed watching your channel throughout the season and draft. Such great content and insight on the players and the clubs and really appreciate all the effort you go to! So thank you, keen to follow along next year!
great work dyl been waiting for this vid! great work on timestamps
@@endakis1 haha been trying to keep on top of the time stamps 😂 thanks for the support!
Love your assessment of North mate. IMO it is very much on what North value their picks at.
We know North where trying to trade back on since pick 8-27 which speaks volumes of how much each and every club rated their picks. North a paid a big premium to get in. Though to pick Matt Whitlock, someone North rated top 15 on their draft board ☑️
FOS was the obvious choice at pick 2. Rated hotly as the pick 1 leader since beginning of last year for this draft and was hotly contesting that race all the way to draft night. Best of all he replaces the hole that TT leaves in his dismissal. Talent, output, accumulation and overall calibre of potency. FOS at pick 2 is a steal for us Roo's HUGE WRAPS ☑️
Urquhart puzzled me too, yet the disparaging mention of his height across multiple sources is a puzzle. As he's listed at 185-190cm. He's a freakishly strong lad for his age though and his defensive mindset and ability to read the play really well is elite. Gets up in his opponents faces and can really extract the ball from the inside out. Also heard he's done spits and spouts up in the forward line as an additional key Firward at times so fir North to have a strong big bodied mid who can kick goals. I believe we were very much interested in Langford, Smillie and Allen for a time and Urquhart that slightly smaller is very much closer than we think to building to and past their own level. ☑️
Ecstatic about Stevens. Small forward but another one that's different than what we have. Two way running, brilliant goal sense with the nouse to kick them and sticks his tackles to good affect too! ☑️
Overall I think North did incredibly well mate. We paid a premium in our F1st to get in, though with where North's at in our rebuild another Midfielder at a top 6 pick just isn't a need and two F2nds is a mighty fine hand to have fir a staggered recruitment of KPP's and small forwards/utilities moving forward. Very bullish on our recruitments plans to not just succeed the veterans of Parker, Darling and Daniel. But to improve upon with what will one day retire with far stronger young players. Go North
That's a great post. There is potentially 10 Academy prospects to come out of the NSW and QLD academies next season. Our two F2 picks will have a PVI between 7 and 12. We will likely trade those to get back into the 1st round next season. Throw that into the draft and trade hand we have secured, been a good couple months for the list build.
I think maybe because rucks take a few years to develop, the Crows are focusing on targeting an experienced ruckman e.g Draper/Moyle next year. Or maybe even seeing how Taylor Goad develops and try to bring him back home in the near future
great work dyl been waiting for this vid!
Great work this draft mate, keen to see more of you in 2025
Thanks mate! Same to you! Hope we can team up at some point ❤️
Stoked we got North's future 1st round pick. xD
was a bit surprised with Faull at pick 14, but the late form was very impressive in the Coates Talent League bit of a bolter & all works out & make sense now... I was worried we were going to miss out on Harry Armstrong when we did that, I can not believe he went pick 23, I thought it would be wishful thinking he'd even be there at our teen picks. I just can't wait watch the progress of our draft haul in future years. 8 players picked WOW!
I agree with the commenters here - would love to see you on fox footy Dylan!
Either that or in a role with the kangas. I met one of their draft recruitment guys (frizzy haired bloke) last year at the AFLW grand final - very nice guy and they have a great team)
Love the content mate, really insightful I am glad west coast kinda save the draft from that confusing trade period 😂
This guy is great.He knows what he is talking about and really knows the players.Does he actually work in the media?
Awesome work Dylan! Would you be concerned about the tiger draftees injury clouds?
Na not personally, if you’re scared of injuries and don’t trust your development I don’t think you’ll ever get out of mid table.
organic growth dyls, killing it
Mate you were amazing all year. As an Eagles fan our haul was better than my wildest dreams and we retain a huge hand for next year. Looking forward to next year!
@@sleekism23 thanks so much 🙏 glad you enjoyed! Can’t wait for next year too 😂
Crows didn't have any list spots to trade back in, Was very painful watching Dodson slide as we've been wanting to draft a project ruck for 3 years now (Barnett, Goad and now Dodson)
Hopefully a lesson learnt, We should've been more ruthless (Brodie Smith) to give us for more flexibility draft day
100% agree it was very painful watching Dodson slide; I was hoping that he would get through to our pick 59 after he had slid so far because I am sure that we would have taken him with that pick. Something that Hamish said on Gettable just prior to the draft.... we have committed to Tyler Welsh but did not commit to exactly where he would be taken.
If we got Dodson at pick 59 then Tyler Welsh would have been a Rookie pick.....and my bet is that it would have been at the expense of Chris Burgess.
Ruthless? Yes...but when premierships are the goal you can't always be Mr Nice Guy.
@@kadachiman7234 I'm not sure we would've, If we were prepared to gamble on Welsh making it to the rookie draft we had the draft capital to trade up but we didn't, It should've never been a Welsh v Dodson situation anyway, Letting Smith go on for another year killed any hope of Dodson and It's probably the one real error the clubs made this off season
Why does everyone keep forgetting we already have a ruckman that we picked up this year and that's Toby Murray
@@keironlindner9238 agreed, I have mentioned Toby Murray as a project Ruckman in in another comment on this video.
@@keironlindner9238 Toby Murray has barely spent any time in the ruck in the SANFL, Maybe that changes but so far he looks more a Himmelberg replacement aka depth in case Thilthorpe get's injured
Fellow Kangas man here. Originally I didn't know what to make of trading our Future 1st but after thinking about it, bringing in the talent now might just help us win those extra games, allowing us to lock down LDU long term. Stoked with FOS, and hope River can become half the player his old man was!
Dylan, it may be a good idea to run a fantasy footy video series next year as you seem to know players so well that it will be a benefit to all to hear your analysis.
Yeah would love to do that! I’m big into my fantasy too!
sadly the crows didnt leave enough list spaces for getting back in for dodson, we could have if we delisted another. poor list management tbh. But draper and welsh is amazing
West Coast's only flaw was the inability to select a player that has elite disposal ability. So many raw athletes and players that are just bigger, faster, stronger on that team but not enough methodical link up players. Gross could be a true bargain, but Shanahan at 30 might be the best pick of the whole draft. They also got Champion as a Cat B rookie which is just incredible, and really they just need a couple of elite 2-way winger options and the team might actually be something
@@stevelewis2080 assume you’re not happy with the Bo Allan selection? I agree he’s not necessarily the player west coast need. I feel he’s a pretty high talent though. Was surprised they didn’t consider Reid though
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft @ 16 Allan was a bargain all things considered, and I think he'll be a great player, but we needed a Jagga Smith, Murphy Reid type and in hindsight Reid would've been perfect had we known we were going to land the players we did...
@stevelewis2080 yeah agree with that! Jagga would have been the perfect player imo. I think all things consider it was a great 2 nights for WC
Great Vid ! I was one of the ones who had a meltdown when pick 3 was traded. Still thought they should have gone Murphy Reid but I think Allan being a homegrown probably put it in his favour. Shanahan is the best pick of the draft. I can see him as a CHB who could pinch hit in the forward line. You can see they have kept next years pick for a crack at Warner who I would say is a better than 50% chance of coming to West Coast. Money and draft picks to do the deal will not be an issue and he has a relationship with Don Pyke.
👍👍👍👍👍👍. With the Tigers getting Faull early I believe the Club that was going to get him was Sydney and the Tigers were not going to take that risk given they were interested in Faull all year after coming back from injury. The Swans are good recruiters as to are Geelong just like the Tigers are so I guess thats telling that if they didn’t get in first we would lost out to Sydney ? The Tigers had to get in first to get one of the players they wanted. Melbourne got in first with one Richmond wanted in Lindsey ? But it work out well as others we wanted in Hotton and Faull we needed to get at those’s picks so Melbourne made that choice easier for Richmond 👍🏆17 🏆19 🏆20 🐅🐅🐅
What a great time to be a Tigers supporter. Straight off a dynasty and laying the groundwork for a new dynasty 🏆🏆🏆🐅🐅🐅
Norths trade of picks is gold and here’s why. North has enough first round midfield players so having a top 5 pick next year is not a high priority. The player they picked up … where would he be after another year of development ? I would say that if north valued him as a top ten pick ( in terms of priority) then next year he is definitely a top 10 pick. Plus we have a mid to late 20s pick next year. Splitting a first round pick for the picks they got back was well worth it - top ten pick this year and a late 20s pick next year - Gold
@@jabyrne3849 definitely agree on the development aspect being a year behind. I think that was a big motivation for staying in 24.
I don’t understands Norths logic with that trade. Richmond offered picks 6 and 18 for pick 2 and there might’ve been something else in the deal aswell I can’t remember. But to not take that offer and then trade a future first to the same club for pick 27 and a second rounder… it just looks a bit silly.
In regards to Faull we got a tip off that both Port and GWS were interested in him in the teens and we predicted the Armstrong slide to a tee.
Love ya work, Dylan
@@DamoSCFooty thank you 🙏
Plus archer day wicks and nguyen in the bombers rookie ! Exciting to see how it all pans out next year!
100% they hadn’t come through when I started recording 😂 ADW is a high upside pick! Love it!
Angus Clarke reminds me so much of Joel Corey, I couldn't believe how far he fell. Are clubs really taking a player's frame into account now?
Totally agree about Crows & Dodson.
Big guys' form can drop off a cliff & the back up is the same vintage, so it's a big risk on ROB to be R1 indefinitely.
Unless they see Thilthorpe becoming a ruck beast, it's a huge missed opportunity.
Other clubs traded in late for future picks, don't know why they didn't?
The routine recycling of mature rucks maybe makes clubs timid to invest in true rucks in favour of the chop out forward-ruck?
The tide will eventually turn & a good ruck will monster the hybrids some day.
Dude…… as a WCE man I was pretty depressed at the start of proceedings and then it just escalated!!! Bo was nice but the 2 picks in the 40’s!!!!!! Still got a long way to go but fcking stoked
@@JonGarrood haha definitely mate! That was beyond ideal how it turned out!
The Whitlock boys were predicted as the best talls, along with Armstrong all season. With those 2 still on the board, north decided it was still worth moving their first rounder
This is what the tigers recruiters said about Sims. Explains it a bit more
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Richmond Victorian Recruiting Manager, Rhy Gieschen said that Sims caught the recruiters’ eye with his March fitness testing and early season form.
“Tom is a genuine key position size at 199cm, and can mark the ball at the highest point, or bring the ball to ground in high numbered marking situations, a trait we value highly,” he said.
My Thoughts for Richmond
..... Then. .......... Now
D.Martin..>>> S.Lalor
J.Graham >>>J.Smillie
S.Bolton >>>> T.Hotton
J.Reiwoldt >>>> J.Faull
D.Grimed >>>>> L.Trainor
T.Lynch >>>>>. T.Simms
S.Edwards >>>> J.Alger.
Then to complete H.Armstrong who possibly could be our J. Cameron roaming the forward line.
What a crew for the future.
I actually think the North Melbourne pick trade is genius, and may very well be looked upon as a move that changed the club. Matt Whitlock - sure, he may be an amazing player, hope he is, but that's not where the genius lies. What this move does, is it says to the players, the coaches, the fans - "we expect to be a top 8 team next year. we expect that we will be good enough to make this move look good". imagine if north make the finals next year. Imagine. because the talent is there. it's about maturity, unity and confidence now.
The tigers have so many damn tall key position (especially forward) players on their list, it seems like after this year a lot of them won’t be offered future contracts and will have to prove their worth in 2025 with all the new kids in
Hopefully can add some lateral midfield quickness in next years draft
Faull was surprising but it feels like they tried to target players with connections to one another with faull playing with Lalor. Hotton, Trainor and Armstrong all having connections with one another, a few tough years are likely to come so getting a tight group (all with high upsides) makes a lot of sense. The midfield is slow, but the core is there to build around and add best midfielders over the next few drafts, hopefully duursma.
Geez Twomey nailed the order again didn't he old mate
Well Done Dylan! Absolute mountain of work with your channel and everywhere else you popped up.
Love what the crows did in the draft with the two lists spots they had. I agree about a project ruck but what I would say is in the next couple of years they will have some spots created with Walker, Smith, Laird, Murphy and maybe one of O'Brien or Strachan. So I would be looking to get one of the SA rucks back after serving their apprenticeship at another club. A few SA options out there Sam Draper, Taylor Goad, Jacob Molier and Alex Dodson.
@@Team-Aaron thanks mate 🙏 yeah Agreed, Draper was the big win for the crows!
In North's defense as much as it doesn't make sense on first look it actually does when you dive deeper into the players north picked FOS can play wing which is definitely an area north struggle with hopefully Colby and Finn can solidify a spot on both wings and Urqhart is a big bodied defensive mid with elite cardio and speed which again is a need apart from Wardlaw who you want ball in hand is not a 2 way midfield
North tried and tried and tried. Any other year clubs would have been salivating to do the trades north wanted. But just couldn't get it done. I really don't mind trading the future 1st it's just a pick and we have had plenty of first round picks lol
@bomberwarren on face value it's almost a sackable trade but at the end of the day they and almost every other club didn't rate next years draft for varying reasons and if that was the price to pick up a kpp and get an extra year's worth a development into then it is what it is also shows the intent to improve
@zanecallisto4169 this is pure speculation but I have a feeling when we made that trade we thought we had someone willing to trade with on night 2 and they were either playing games with us or something changed.
Let's face it north trade back into the second round, grab jack or shanahan and it looks like a masterstroke.
Don't do that and we are left with egg on our face a little.
I'm not upset by the trade and think most of our supporters are overreacting
@@zanecallisto4169 yeah, my issue is more with the overall strategy. How weren’t they able to split this year etc. I don’t think it’s turned out terribly, but the strategy certainly isn’t clear. The team still has a lot of structural holes and can’t see where they make that up.
@@bomberwarren from all reports I think the plan was to trade into the 2nd round and pick up the other twin but that didn't happen having Richmond's 2nd rounder is handy especially if you can bundle that with their 2nd rounder makes it easy to trade into the first round next year if needed
North supporter here. I think the Whitlock trade was necessary, had to get on the front foot and get a tall this year. Perhaps they would have preferred a different tall, but a tall it was to be. I'm unsure with River Stevens, the small forward role. We have Harvey, Payne, Hansen Jr, Konstanty & now Stevens competing for the same role. 5 small forwards. I guess the preseason will be competitive.
North must feel like they will spike a bit next year say 7-9 wins meaning they end up with pick 6 with all the potential FS and Academy players that 6 might be 12-15th best next year. The trade was the right thing to do if they view it like that plus it's the mentally that they are going to win games.
It was revealed yesterday that Sid Draper rung Nicks 2-3 days prior to the draft to tell him that he would be very keen to come to Adelaide if selected.......I guess this was to squash the rumour doing the rounds 4 weeks earlier saying that Draper did not want to go to the Crows due to how Rachelle was treated.... good move and bold move.
Project Ruckman....keep your eyes on what they do with Toby Murray during the preseason and in the SANFL team......201cm, beefy (they don't state wights now) key forward, but do we need him in that position?
Crows didn't have the list spot for drafting Dodson. Re committed to signing on Burgess and Shoey. Spewing we didn't go for Dodson
I agree that the Eagles pulled something out of the hat. They only had 3 picks in the first 4 rounds (before and after the Baker/Owies deal). Allen should be given a chance on the wing and see if he leapfrogs over other youngsters on the list who aren't performing. Shanahan should replace McGovern at CHB. He will the sixth best tall forward on the list and they need defenders. Meets our needs. I think we need accumulators certainly and pace. That will have to be 2025 where we have five picks in the first 3 rounds.
Adelaide had no list spots to take Dodson, surprised you werent aware of that. Short of paying out a contracted player and therefore salary cap issues was never happening.
you should enter the Fox competition to be a draft guru for em
I really wish that Faull pick was Joe Berry. Wouldve been a 10/10 draft. I think they went one tall top heavy and one small too light. But its hard to judge a draft as not great off the back of one pick i disagree with. I just think Armstrong and Simms would've been fine and have the higher upside. In a way its a ballsy draft by them to try and set up the spine in one go. Next year both first rounders should be mids. No more talls
Could the bombers be loading up next year for a crack at Harley?!?!
Eagles fan here, so they can piss off, but 3/4 first rounders could be on the cards😢
imma be very biased but HOLY FUCK THE CROWS DID A GOOD THING THEY PICKED THE RIGHT GUY LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO
@@griteom4538 Draper is 🔥
Think (or hope) Hotton will be a very good player if he stays injury free
@levipeterken4020 yep! I’m a big fan, won’t have a huge impact in 2025 though due to his injury
@ yeah definitely. We got a lot of people recovering from ACLs haha. Hopefully no more, especially for Gibcus. Hoping Lynch can have a better year, he was just about the best player in the competition (was averaging a ridiculous amount of goals) for a month or two in 2022, before getting a few injuries and then getting injured the next two years. Obviously he’s not gonna be there for our next premiership but hoping he can lead the way for our forwards
Essendon: Once again, Essendon pick players they have a plethora of and fail to pick a big bodied inside midfielder.
richmond picking so many tall goal kickers they should of gone for ball magnet jagga instead of injury prone lola and murphy reid instead of taj...
You're obsessed with Richmond, lol.
Taj Hotton is an absolute beast,
We definitely didnt need reid following our first two picks anyway. Our midfield is already very slow.
@@pletsas6243 yeah but we we already have Gibson on long term ACL injury ...hotton is good but he will need rehabilitation then a preseason and still may not fully recover you won't see him until 2026 ......well after smile their was only hotton and reid left... Now long term Reid was the safest bet ....
Sorry but Essendon stuffed up and it show in years to come, Essendon had their chances to get deep into this years draft. Grade D-
( north ) For a draft that was said to be our last big crack at the draft before looking to really bounce back up. It leaves a lot to be desired, a fair bit underwhelming. Doesn’t feel like a draft that will solidify the young group at the club. Added a few pieces for sure.
In terms of gaining a defensive midfielder, you can get them everywhere I would have thought. I thought Will Brodie was a big piece of freos 2022 push into finals, he now plays wafl, just one example but he’d be seasoned and ready to go for an immediately impact. If there’s no need for a brodie type then was there a need for urquhart?
It’s a lot easier to recruit that type at a cheap price than a key of any price.
Yeah that's my general feeling too! just could have maximized a lot more!
@@tkrosse2274 I don't disagree with your statement but at pick 57 it really is a free hit clubs obviously don't value picks the same as they do the actual player
From all reports they had put a lot of time into Urquhart early on in the year they obviously didn't rate any of the key position or small forwards in that portion of the draft highly enough plus with darling parker and Daniel coming in I don't think they would have had the draft capital to being in someone like a Brodie without sacrificing the draft hand more
@ to be fair I would expect a pick like 55 or in that range to get that deal over the line. But that was more of an example of a similar styled player that would be on almost every list that could come in at any time and probably play that role. Apposed to using the pick on someone a little tricker to find and even harder to lure out. But yes, as you mentioned the club clearly didn’t rate any of the available players as highly as urquhart.
End of the day, urquhart is a Roo and I’ll full support behind him!
Taurus should have been at North... & I Understand why you are jealous of St Kilda
Haha yep! 😂
@@harrylederman1679 I was super big on Tauru up until the last week of the draft when North where linked with FOS after watching back games and footage of them one big issue is the lack of spread especially coming out of the midfield FOS is an excellent mover and between him and Mckercher if they can nail down those two wing spots it really does help
Plus it was pretty obvious with the trades being offered they rated FOS higher then Tauru and a pick in the mid 20s
Wish there was a way to get both but I'll be excited to watch him play next year as he really is a highlight reel in the making
@@zanecallisto4169 there was a way to get both especially when North was willing to trade out their round no. 1 pick for next year ...which is probably going to be another top 3 pick for next year.. gave Richmond even more incentive to split picks incl. No. 6 for this draft ...We all knew they wanted Tauru ideally
Sucks you got it so wrong about Carlton Dylan. Jagga was the best option and they didn’t blink.
@@tmc3980 still would of gone Draper. They played it safe
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft*have. You were wrong lol. Jagga is a far superior player. Let’s come back in a few years.
Carlie West lol
So you’re happy with Essendon even though they gave up pick 9 for absolutely no reason. Kako was never going to go top ten so they absolutely botched it.
@@effkay3691 na, if you hold the pick someone bids. You can’t run that risk. You may as well maximise 2025 hand. Same deal with the Gold Coast and pick 6.
@ If another club bids Dylan then they absolutely want the player. No one bids for fun because if the bid is not matched then they are stuck with the player. None of the mail over the last few months had Kako in the top 10. Essendon could have had a player in the top 10 plus Kako.
As for us (North), we did very well under the circumstances. Nobody would have been surprised if Whitlock was called out between 15 and 20. At least we get a good tall in this year. If we finish bottom 2/3 next year then an early first rounder won’t help us. Something else will be wrong!
@ yeah, now sure how North and Essendon are related in anyway but there was absolutely interest for Kako top 10. Saints were keen and Melbourne were keen. No club has ever not matched inside the top 20 so I think that’s unrealistic. I’m not super critical of what North did. O’Sullivan is a jet and he improves us. We lack a lot specialist players though. Quality in the small fwds and half backs.
Why? Because it would have been gross negligence to trade out O'Sullivan for Tauru! Simple.
@@Andy-o2f do you feel the same about trading a future first for pick 27 though?
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft I acknowledge that list rebuilds have a trigger point and draft picks are valued on a sliding scale relative to that trigger point. North had Matt Whitlock rated at pick 10 and basically traded him for that value (~5 for 10 & ~19) Are you aware that Norths 2025 1st round pick was on the table at pick 10 (StKilda's 2nd pick) and stayed there along with attached trade/draft pick provisions right up until pick 27? . There's a hell of a lot more nuance to this than some very generic reasoning of a matter regarding two simple numbers. North won three times on draft night, firstly when Richmond bypassed the best player in this draft (O'Sullivan) for what shapes right now as a Jake Stringer clone. Secondly, when they overlooked the much more impressive athletic profiles of the Whitlocks for 2 x Logan McDonald clones in Faull & Armstrong, and thirdly when Urquart slid ~ 20 picks in the draft! What's your thoughts on Richmond choosing Faull at 14 and their F2 over North's F1? Surely by your own logic this is the worst piece of drafting-trading in the entire 2024 draft?
@Andy-o2f how do you know how Sam Lalor is shaping, bro hasn't played afl yet, and on the same note, how do you know that FOS is the best player in the draft like we can all spectacle and value diffrent traits (e.g. Carlton have said Jagga was ranked as their number 1 pick), but until we see these guys play we won't know. With the future deal, we'll have to see how that goes to truly evaluate it, but given that this year pick 3 cost picks 12, 14 and Matt owies, trading what the is speculated to be a top 5 pick (although yet again, it could be alot higher like 18 or lower like 1) for what was pick 27 and something that can't be higher then 19 it comes across as odd, and even if we see Matt Whitlock as pick 10ish, as thats what north veiwed him as, 10 and Richmond's future 2nd for a north future first is still a weird deal from the outside. But will be interesting to see how it plays out in 12 months and beyond
LDU > Saints
@@DarkhourOfficial I hope not🤞
Mate, if he leaves it will be to a team that's got a chance of winning a 🏆 in other words, he ain't going to StKilda
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft all signs seem to lean that way but who knows!
@@lunch2102 if he wants a chance to be immortalised he will ;)
@@DarkhourOfficial like Nathan Buckley? Left a team in pursuit of a premiership only to have the team he left win multiple? If he joins the saints, he will definitely be immortalised, as a loser.
At least North got a father/son at Anthony Stevens house. Wayne Carey's son.
He looks more like Dean Laidley ( before the mental illness ) it's widely believed that Kelli was the door knob at the roos, if you know what I mean
Noah Mraz smart pick nothing super probably would've preferred a moraes but stacking keys for future with frost Sicily barrass 30+ soon is a smart idea, Battle, Mraz, McCabe, scrimshaw, blanck, weddle who can all play that role better in time that battle barrass frost can provide them to grow in coming years.
Dont see anyone pushing Nash or Worpel out, Worpel kicking efficiency and ability has gone up past couple szns, newcombe and day take away from his rise. Nash is more of a lockdown run and gun midfielder in transition who tags mid game also, regularly locks up guys like Cripps, bont etc for periods in games, just because you don't lose much technically when you send nash out to stop someone vs win ball.