CEO SAYS "YOU'RE STEALING IF YOU WORK TWO JOBS"
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Boomers: "These lazy millennials, they don't wanna work two jobs!"
Also Boomers: "You're working two jobs!? You're fired!"
You literally can't effing win.
And there's your game winner...
A person empowering themselves with more income = stealing. A company overworking salaried, exempt employees for 60+ hours per week = "That's just business. Gotta please the client!"
So- you just grouped all "Boomers" together as a single group, the same way this CEO did to everyone who worked two jobs.
@@cuivre2004 That's how some of us M's roll sometimes, sad to say. It's always the fault of someone else.
@@kevinmach730 not always just when it is
Why not lie to an employer? Employers lie to employees all the time.
You could be breaching your employment contract.
@@SpaceForce635 like i care about that
@@SpaceForce635 You cannot even fathom how deeply screwed you are, if you never break a few rules to get ahead like your employers are happy to do whenever they‘re able to. Content cotton picker. 😂
True. Employers lie to you all the time, and consider it perfectly justified, because (insert arbitrary self-beneficial reason here).
All of my employers either stole from me (was included in lots of those typical mass lawsuits), did coke in the office, lied to everyone, and/or were abusive. Honestly couldn't give a flying fart if employees decided to hide truths to protect themselves.
Sounds like these CEOs are deathly afraid that people will work multiple jobs, basically accelerating their road to retirement and financial freedom and not even NEED to get up and work for ANYONE anymore. And you know we just can't have a bunch of stress-free, healthy, relaxed, happy and financially stable humans running amuck with a bunch of free time 🙄
That's the point, they do not want you to get out of corporate slavery!
I agree with you!. They want you to be enslaved and not be financially independent and be subservient to them until you are too old.
The system is designed to keep you poor and give you just enough cash to pay your debts. Any extra money you make just gets taxed. We are debt slaves.
How can they “own” your free time? I don’t get how it’s legal to control your time and how you choose to use it when not at work.
Exactly they need to keep people cowed and enslaved
Yeah. Once a manager told me i have the most important job because we are the ones in contact with the customers. I told him if that is true then why are we getting the lowest pay if we are THAT IMPORTANT.
He looked at me and had nothing to say.
You hit him in his ego. He immediately started thinking how to replace you.
😂 *Blank Stare*
A mentor once told me. " it's very simple, they don't want us to eat at their restaurants or play on their golf courses or live in their neighborhoods"
Not true. Not even close to the truth.
Yeap
@@youtubesucks1499 prove it...i don't believe you.
@@bryanbrett8943 What's preventing you from opening a business?
You can't start a side hustle? People are doing it every day.
Tell me why everyone eles can, and you can't?
You think they care if you have the money to move into their neighborhood?
Not really. What you think they keep a list of names??
That's what you are implying.
Boomer CEO: Managing 3 companies, renting 15 aparments
Millenial: It would be nice to have 2nd income
Boomer CEO: Noooo its illegal you little trash
sounds just like the government and their cronies - every time the little citizens find out a way to climb up the financial ladder and get one step closer to become members of the same golf club the wealthy elite go to, a financial crush or some new regulation comes up and kick everybody 10 steps down while adding another 50 steps to the same ladder
The world economic forum motto.
@@cstuartdc exactly
If you work that job on company time then yes you are stealing. This was two simultaneous jobs you cant do that. You cant work one job while being paid for your time by another. As a result they performed horribly at both jobs.
@@cstuartdc except they werent productive .did you bother reading anything of the memo outside his selective highlights? i suggest pausing and reading using your brains instead of your ears
Never underestimate how scummy the corporate elite are.
I never understood the no two job policy. You, as a human, should be free to do what you like as long as you can fulfill the minimum requirements for each job. I was questioned about it once. I was working as an engineer during the day and loaded trucks for a shipping company on night shift to pay off my credit card debt more quickly. I think it all comes down to control. That is why companies hate workers doing work from home. The companies perceive that they are losing control.
In Switzerland it's forbidden for health reasons, but we also have a minimum wage that covers the basic cost of living.
Its control. Period
Yes, exactly, it is a CONTROL issue for them.
it's a risk management issue - "I know that my devs are working less than 8 hours a day and I am fine with that, but I want to make sure that if something goes wrong and we need a fast response they will be there to do their duties and not finishing some task for a side hustle."
@@volodiafyk Except, if your employee is fulfilling all their duties, what risk are you hedging that way? They have already done what you've told them, so there is nothing else for them to do anyway
- Complains about people working two jobs.
- Works for 12 companies.
He just wants slaves with less rights than him.
He invested in them, there's a difference - they just happen to be private cos. If you create your own stock portfolio of 10-12 stocks, do you consider yourself working 12 jobs lmao.
@@jlinsy So you mean he's a parasite?
@@jlinsy common stock give you no control over companies inner workings and if they did then yes, it would be a job.
@@jlinsy nah it’s the same because he’s is still earning money and dedicates time to working on his investment.
S.
They’re just upset that they lose the leverage of threatening you that you’ll lose your job if you won’t play by their rules.
Yeah more or less what's going on.
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Exactly right..
I have a secret for you... your employer doesn't really care about "having leverage" over you. What they care about is getting an honest day's work out of an honest day's pay from you. I don't know why people seem to think that they are indispensable to an employer, especially an employer that is a large corporation. At some point, you'll realize that the larger a company is the less significant you are to them because they'll always be able to find a replacement for you.
@@2020Max1 I disagree. If you talk about leaving and starting your own business, many companies would try to give you the boot before you can successfully transition as like you said, they will need to replace you. They don’t want to be left high and dry either which can happen if an employee has options. Either a business of their own or another potential job that can help them when negotiating pay and bidding on other jobs.
Yes it is exactly the dynamics of an abusive relationship, a narcissistic personality takes anything but total unquestioning obedience to them as a personal attack
"When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination."
- Thomas Sowell
I went into a temp agency for some extra cash when I was starting my business. they paid very little but it was enough to pay the bills while I got my business off the ground over the next year. I nearly signed the contract until I read "we will repossess all wages if you ever call off a day without excuse". I inquired and they said it meant nothing because I wouldn't call off... I explained I have a business I'm building and only doing their job for the extra cash and that I would call off in a heart beat if my business became more lucrative (which it did months later). They immediately became enraged and called me ungrateful and said I was making a mistake. I smiled back and said "looks like your true colors are showing. glad I dodged the bullet on this one" and walked out. I heard the lady yelling at her CO worker saying she'd never met someone like me before. I hope she learned something that day.
Clearly this CEO and many bosses think that they actually OWN you
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What’s ironic is how these Boomer CEO’s will call your generation “Entitled.”
The offices are the new plantations.
they hate it when their slaves aren't truly theirs
The employer doesn't see your life as belonging to you. They see that they are buying you. If there were not laws in place, they would have you working 24/7
They love it when they can work you more than 40 hours, they hate it if you finish all your work in less than 40 hours.
other way around
@@awk3340 not if you're salaried. You're thinking hourly employees.
Construction job I did if I finished too quickly they just gave me more work of which I could still handle. As I was there to learn. The supervisor who was above me was intimidated because upper management specifically called for me to do these jobs it threatened his position which caused me to become a target. I was already dealing with BS from other companies hating us because we were not a union lift safety harness was stolen some tools as well. I eventually said fuck it and ghosted because I didn't feel appreciated and I was tired of stuff being stolen not having that harness made my job 10 times harder as it is because Id have to borrow one from a co worker which meant waiting awhile since everyone else has work to do. Those harnesses are around 300 dollars guys that's a quarter of a paycheck I hope whoever stole it broke a leg at some point. Thieves deserve their hands be smashed with a freaken hammer. But this whole working two jobs being theft...what a load of bullshit I feel like that CEO doesn't even know what theft is.
There control freaks.
@DarwinAward Still waiting on some corp to come up with the brilliant plan to make you hourly until you make overtime, then you get auto-shifted to salaried.
as a decent, above the median/average wage earner with student debt, I cant afford a home anywhere near where jobs are. at 32 years of age, im forced to rent. a second job in my industry would be hard, but its becoming almost necessary. Im tired of older, greedier generations cashing in on our generation. This is the content we need to shift the balance
💯 facts
We got no choice. No one wants to work 2-3 jobs just to live decent. Our generation was screwed from the start and they knew it. Btw we better start saving for retirement because our / younger generations millennials and gen z there will be NO retirement for us
Good luck 🤞
Agree 👊🏿👊🏿
And yet here I am, at 37, and I've been retired for two years now and own my house. And no, I didn't come from a wealthy family either. Nor am I really that "well-educated" in the sense that I've never been to college. The reason so many from our generation are struggling is they lack creativity when it comes to finding ways to earn money. So many are stuck in the mindset that going out and slaving away for someone else is the only way to make money. It's not. If your job is your only source of income, then I hate to sound like a jerk, but you're doing it wrong and you'll never make any progress financially.
I remember seeing something back in my early twenties that motivated me to find alternative ways to make money. It was a video of some rich guy giving a talk and he said something to the effect of "you'll never get rich working for someone else." After that, I quit my job and joined the army. After 4 years in the army, I got out and went to work for a PMC. I used the 6-figure salary they were paying to start investing in stocks that pay dividends. I hardly had any living expenses because I was overseas and everything I needed was provided by the company. From there, I just kept investing as much of my salary as I could afford and reinvesting my dividend income until it created a snowball effect where I started making more and more money on dividends. Once I reached the point where I could live comfortably on my dividends, I retired. I bring in about $50,000 a year in passive dividend income, which is more than enough to live a comfortable middle-class life in the low cost of living state I chose to live in.
My point in telling you all that isn't to brag or make anyone feel bad. My point is that taking the traditional route and working until 65 or whatever simply isn't going to get it done anymore. And most people understand that. But that's kinda what frustrates me about our generation. We understand that going about life doing the traditional regular job thing isn't enough, but so many of us make no attempt to try another way. I'm hoping that reading my story might get you motivated to find another path that will get you to where you want to be in life. It's still possible to achieve everything our parents had, we just have to put more effort into achieving it than our parents did.
I left Target after they told me my hours would be flexible and would get 40 hours. Only to get 20 or less hours. They also told me I could not work at any other store or buy goods from other stores. If I left they would share my name to all corporate governance and stop me from getting hired anyplace else. I left anyway.
Gotta love when corporate officials want to call "ethics" in to question😂 while they will lay people off to keep their bonuses.
For real!
Ethics is just a stupid word stupid people use and conflate with morality.
Or sell to millions of clients. By their own reasoning, they should sell to 1 and only 1 client, no more. Otherwise would be disloyalty to that client.
Yep! There is not a single honest company out there. Lie to them all. Corporate stooges are never ever your friend
There's nothing wrong with that though....the fact they provided so many jobs in the first place automatically makes them many, many times better than you in every measurable metric.
People will literally have a dream of one day attaining a certain level of success, and scoff and the ones that are already there, at the same time.
Same types of people that think if they were alive in 1928 Germany, that THEY would have stopped him...when it's obvious they would have been making the salute.
If your employees have 2 jobs, you're probably a bad boss because you don't pay them enough.
I find your comment straight to the point - most people hate to work a second job, but they might need more money to cover their expenses.
I also think that a company can avoid such behaviour if they pay their employees well enough, or if an employee comes to his manager and asks for a raise to cover at least the yearly inflation rate, as long as this employee is doing his job right, it should not be a problem.. this is also pennies for any company that is making decent profits (most tech companies who don't go bankrupt within the first 3 years are)
bad take. A guy flipping burgers or buffing floors at night shouldnt be making the kind of money where he would never consider a second job. I agree with most everything in these comments but thats just fucking stupid.
A guy flipping burgers or buffing floors for 8 hours a day should make enough money to make a living. I don''t say they should earn millions, but If you think people who have a full-time job need to have a second job just to not starve, then you're an asshole and part of the problem.
@@thomasmitchell7815 You've clearly never tried to live off a food service salary where being paid $9 an hour was considered a good wage. Before covid a good 80% of my coworkers worked a second job while I was at KFC. After covid, over 90% of them did just to make ends meet.
Not necessarily. I make really good money at my main job. I work my side stuff because I enjoy it and want to retire early.
My ex-employer told me she is upset with me for telling her what I think about her business and advertising strategy (I am an e-commerce advisor and digital marketer) and she said: "I am not upset about your feelings and thoughts. I am upset that you are sharing them with me. It's like when my husband tells me he doesn't like my hair. Why would you say that? I don't want to hear that." Not only that she treated our business relationship as romantic, but she also didn't want any negative feedback and didn't let me do my job. Why did you hire an advisor if you don't want an honest opinion -which also includes negative feedback? Do you want to progress and look good (as a reference to her hair looking bad) or do you want to do whatever you want be cheered for it no matter how stupid it is and fail? Some people simply don't have the mind space for anything that doesn't make them look good and fit their illusion regardless of how much that illusion differs from reality - no matter the cost. Her business is failing bad and I am glad I left.
Sounds like it could have been an easy job to OE at if the pay was worth it 👀
CEO: "You're a thief for working two jobs. Devote all of your life to me!"
Me: "You're the thief if you underpay someone to the point where they are forced to work another job just to be able to afford basic necessities and barely keep up with the cost of living."
Then show up in a maid dress the day after that sort of rant
This behaviour is similar to what narcissists and psychopaths do to keep control over you
Narcs often try to become CEO's for obvious reasons. Having grown up in a Narc household, I've grown sensitive to them. It's 1 if the reasons why it's hard for me to find a good place while growing and moving up.
Exactly!
So basically they are saying, “I’m allowed to have multiple sources of income because I’m so smart and wonderful! You are my lowly employee, so I demand strict loyalty. You will only earn what I choose to give you. I own you!”
Like "mere humans cannot do our own game, how dare ye!"
@@simonebernacchia5724 rofl actually if you have to have two jobs, you're playing the game wrong. That's why you're poor and will always reeeeee at the rich. But MUH Equality! Lol.
No they are not. How are so dumb?
Thats not what their saying. He literally clarified that
He said you cant be on the clock for his job and someone elses at the same time dummy.
This happened once. I was working at McDonald's and Dairy Queen on two different shifts. When the DQ boss asked me if I could switch shifts, i told him about my other job, and he fired me right there
"Physical Therapy."
Next time tell them you have classes online or in person. Jc for a min wage job?
Sounds about right
@Earth should have told the manger you would stay with just that company if she doubled your wage an been a smart ass 😂
@Earth 🙏 praying for you
They want to guilt you into thinking this is “stealing” because at the end of the day they want you to work for them 100% and make them money. They expect employees to have the same level of motivation and energy as the CEO/Owner. At the end of the day, the employer signed up for the subscription-employee’s work, employees provide the service-working, and the employer pays. Idk why jobs make it more than that, I don’t owe you anything outside of my normal work hours.
You don't even owe them that. For whatever reason or no reason at all you can work somwhere else if you please.
People don’t get a second job because they just love working. It’s usually because their 1st job doesn’t pay enough for them to pay their bills. If you don’t want your employees working second jobs, pay a living wage
No, its most likely, because they realized that for the most part oversight of large development teams is severely lacking, and you could probably commit a fraction of your time without penalty from your manager.
So they gamed the system, by getting hired at two places, while the minimum amount of work to not get fired. This is dishonest. They are being paid for their time not their productivity.
If they wanted to do this, and they are very productive workers, then they should have had a discussion with both companies about doing free-lance or contractual work which would result in productivity based pay not time based pay.
@@Serfdomftw i hate when people say “doing the minimal amount of work as to not get fired” i bet you those people do exactly what they are hired to do… an offer letter is a contract between me and my employer, i do whats requested and they pay me for that service. Plumbers dont tackle extra issues free of charge. Mechanics dont fix the engine knocking when your transmission is broken without further compensation. Too many idiots think that theyre daddy that can tell employees to do their chores but also make up new responsibilities on the spot. Like nah if its not in my contract kick rocks, and if I’m efficient, not my fault I’m good at my craft, thats why you’re paying me
@@Serfdomftw
Your name is apt to feudal system you seem to enjoy working or rather being used and abused at
@@nashonabo821 You are absolutely clueless.
If you are efficient and doing your job properly, you are not doing the bare minimum to not get fired.
@@Serfdomftw not sure where you work where people can just not do their jobs but bare minimum to me sounds like efficiency. Calling me clueless because your first comment can be interpreted in multiple ways, especially when employers always complain about people not going the extra mile on linkedin is hilarious to me and closer to being clueless 😂 I’ve never heard employers complain about people not doing all their duties, its always complaining about not using that extra time to do things that arent listed in your duties/responsibilities.
You can work 80h a week in fast food jobs, but you can't have 2 salaried jobs? What about the C suite guys on 3 boards?
exactly... not to mention the guys on the top are making 10x more!!
@@troopten556 While only putting in 10 hours a week, most of which is sitting in an oversized office while talking on the phone.
Executives are special people lol.
@@australian1018 I'm sure some are actually smart and good at what they do, but they should learn when to shut their mouth and be grateful to their employees.
@@Roescoe everyone should do this, it avoids being murdered.
It’s crazy to me, that an entity can control everything that I do. If I can go to the hospital, how much time off, when I can quit and how much income I’m allowed to take home. Jobs act like you are married to them.
It feels worse than being married (I am married and haven't been unemployed for 14 years straight now - I am 38).
thats the thing, they cant. they only do so because the people working for them allow them to be taken advantage of.
More of an arranged marriage based on property exchange rather than a modern healthy one
@@2Ahthelphi try to take unscheduled time off from most jobs and see what happens. Or go to the hospital. Or even quit a job without giving two weeks and see how easy it is to find another job. There's a real power imbalance here. We can shift that balance back to us through things like unionizing, but we have to contend with the reality as it is now.
They are acting like working 2-3 jobs is a reward. It’s stressful and anxiety induced. Always worrying if your going to get caught and if you will be able to make your meeting and keep up. No one does this if they had to
Privacy is not lying by omission. You don't owe someone all the details of your life.
You do if its asked in the interview.
It depends on whether there is a legitimate business need for the question. Thus the phrase "it's none of your business".
@@doesntmatter5319 During the interview and hiring process it should be very clear that holding a second job is unacceptable.
@@youtubesucks1499 Unacceptable? According to whom? To what party's interest and benefit? Yeah....the company, not the talent. Do lawyers have to divulge other clients? Do Doctors have to divulge other patients? Do tradesman have to divulge other customers? If there is conflict of interest, then there is a conflict of interest, and no business relationship shall be established.
@@youtubesucks1499 Your posting is unacceptable
The CEO wants to be the one to steal from you...they want to pay you for 1 job, yet work you as if you're working 2 jobs
In reality, a lot of employees actually work 3,4,or 5 jobs for a single employer. They hire you for a job, then add more and more responsibilities as time goes along. Then the boss gets 'bonuses' for keeping overhead lower ( not hiring more people to do the jobs heaped on current employees). That's partially where the bonuses come from! So, who's actually stealing?
2 jobs? Try having 6 different rolls like I did in my last job. I wasted so much time there 🤣
It’s obvious that that man has never struggled a day in his life.
Apparently that CEO is not paying enough if employees are needing to work 2 job’s!
Most likely employees can't manage their money
@@dieseltu1035 Lol bullshit
Remember back in 2013 when a McDonald's CEO wrote out a whole thing about how you could survive off of minimum wage? It involved working two jobs.
The CEO should do that. He should give away everything he has and survive off of minimum wage. I bet many would like to see it.
Lol it won't make you rich
@@igordasunddas3377 why should he and why would he? only an idiot past teenage years would work for minimum wages.(for very long)
I’m pretty sure they did it again recently
@@AxelXionSora get a roommate and quit crying. Nobody owes you a living
Sorry to this CEO but I'm a cancer survivor and health insurance is expensive so that's why I'm overemployed. I just got two perfect reviews from each company, they don't compete against each other and my work for both is done early. Death and one job doesn't seem like a great option. Keep rockin' Josh!
you should really check out on healing your body to make sure you don't have that occur in the future, it all comes down to the food we put in are bodies, it really plays a role a big role in it.
I agree we Josh so much
@@jazzmanny02 Wow are you his dietician? Do you know what his diet is?
I have a side hustle to afford my autoimmune infusions.
Stay strong friend friend!
There's no need to even defend your right to being paid for the time you work. This CEO is a d*ck head, period. He just wants more money in his pocket because he's a ruthless lying deceitful person.
The attitude of corporations that they pay you a salary, and therefore they "own" you 24/7/365 is cringe.
I worked a 20-hour/week 3 month contract once while fully employed at an ad agency and it was the best, most lucrative time of my life. And I didn't miss a single deadline or meeting...
I worked 3 jobs, for 70 hours a week (total) while also doing 18-20 credit hours of college work during my junior and senior years at Michigan State.
I remember those days #Clemson
Hey, you do what you gotta do. That’s a motto I pretty much live by, especially since complaining doesn’t change the situation
That seems almost impossible.
@@Maelstromme It wasn't. And I even managed to get some partying in as well. To be fair, I did not work 70 hours EVERY week, and that 3 job thing was only for about 8 months. I dropped back to a more reasonable 50 hours of work a week after that.
I work in a grocery store overnight stocking since losing a management job during covid. I recently told my boss I was getting a second job because 12.65 doesn't pay the bills. He told me I couldn't be full time if I had a second job because that meant they couldn't "rely" on me. So I asked for a raise and then was told "we just don't have room for that right now". So basically they don't pay enough and know it but they would rather lose me then pay me a bit more.
Yes, they would rather lose you than your availability.
@@cstuartdc No, they just fire you.
They want someone that works for fulltime for them at $13/hr.
Yes, that's what happens when there are jobs that have a high supply of workers in them. Part of this issue is immigration policy (if you're in the lower states) as low paying jobs have artificially high supplies of untrained, unskilled work. This means that people are paid less and are more disposable.
Give you a .10 raise and expect you to appreciate the raise, I think they should keep it, if that's all they can afford then they need to keep that money.
"Hey, you're stealing someone else's job!"
"Okay, pay us enough money so we don't have to work two jobs!"
"No."
😂 Exactly!!
So performing shitty at 2 jobs instead of excelling at 1 should be acceptable?
@@naes124 who said they were performing shitty. You could excel at both. Dear god the quality of work was brought up by you.
Yeah I think some of them are just afraid of the poor but its not really stealing when you look at it because your putting in double the work. I'm not sure how some people can work two jobs though unless one of the schedules is consistent. A lot of 9-5s actually have broken schedules. One day you might work 5am-2pm the next day its 11-8pm then the rest of the week you will be 2-10 accept on Sunday when they want you to be there at 4am.
You really got to know people to work two jobs because to be honest the only way I could work two is if I did one job at home or I was the owner of a businesses were I wrote my own schedule.
@@josiahtaylor9888 If you are working 2 full time jobs.. 80 hours a week... someone is going to get the short end.
Don’t forget that “They,” claim there’s a worker shortage. The chance that you would have two meetings simultaneously is very low, considering you would be working different hours at each job.
I have two jobs and my boss likes the idea or simply doesn't care as long as I do my work for them. I'm a security guard from 7am to 7pm, Thursday through Monday. I snuck in my other job as tech support and customer service, then work as usual on Tuesday and Wednesday. This CEO is crazy. Overworking isn't for everyone but as a CEO, at least me, I would be proud of the effort and hard work each day.
You weren't working both jobs at the same time though. These employees were and that's what he is condemning.
He's got _some nerve_ when two jobs has become the bare minimum for *survival* in this day and age!
“Be my slave and only rely on me to survive.” I am so anti-CEO and pro-capitalist. You have multiple clients so let me have multiple jobs.
This is the logic that makes sense. If there are multiple clients, then employees can have multiple jobs. I thumbs-up your comment in agreement.
someone should tell that CEO that He is the thief for stealing his employees time and not compensating enough for it, therefore creating the necessity of two jobs.
It's easier to blame other people than to say "I'm a fucking idiot and don't know how to manage"
It's easier to find excuses for shitty behaviour then to actually address their own shitty behaviour. You can't sell your time twice and not be stealing. It's simple, don't steal. If you wanna have multiple jobs, cool, have them be piecework jobs where what you produce is the measure. Then you can do whatever the F you want.
I worked for a boss like that once. I worked two 40hr jobs because neither one paid very much. My main job threatened to fire me when I took a week off to cover a shift for a guy on my second job. Like what? I have vacation time, you can't say no to me taking vacation time.
Companies also hate when you use your vacation, personal days and sick time. Crazy how that works....
@@StrokaReviews why? were eligible
I worked for the state of Missrouri as a fuel device inspector a while ago. We worked 4 ten hour shifts Monday-Thursday. I was thinking about picking up a zero turn mower to cut grass on Fridays and the occasional Saturday for extra money. My boss was like "Oh yeah we have a few guys who do something like that." He then talked to me about all the things other guys do to make money on the side. I learned how to make some hardwood furniture. I can't imagine people getting mad about someone else doing well. If you finish the tasks assigned to you for the week, see you Monday. That should be the mentality.
I was once brought in for an interview at Costco because the manager saw on my application that I had two jobs. Literally same day I submitted it, he called and was like "You work two jobs?", and then shedualed me for an interview. I didnt make the cut, but I felt like he was impressed that I had two jobs as a young person, and saw it as working hard and being dedicated. Now having two jobs is stealing I guess apparently...literally people will sit and think of anything to have a problem with, I dont know why Im surprised XD
Well at least they had another job to fall back on!
Exactly. I wouldn’t even put this company on my resume. Don’t disclose if you don’t need to.
Exactly. Never put all your eggs in one basket. Having more than one income source, each able to fully cover my expenses, takes away a lot of stress.
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Never tell your employer you don't have enough work. When I was a lot younger and very Naïve I would go to my bosses whenever I had sped through my work because it was usually brainless tasks that anyone with half a brain could game-ify and have done before the end of the day, usually well before noon. I was never rewarded for being faster than anybody else, I was never given praise, I was just given more and more work since apparently I could handle it or I was let go because once they saw how I operated, they just told other people how to do my job and then they no longer needed me so yeah, never tell your employer you need more work as from my experience, it never works out how you intend. Companies don't seem to care about hard work or loyalty in 2022 so do what is best for you.
Leave out the key details of HOW you do your job. In a previous data analytics job I was using Wolfram Mathematica to generate the reports. After that contract ended, I received a number of panicked emails asking how I had been producing all that work. I told them "Excel Macros", and "good luck".
@@itfrombits2302 To be fair IF the company is good, then they deserve to improve from employee opinions and expertise
Well, if company is trying to get the max amount of income from you, why you would not try to do the same?
Like the conversation between mike and harvey in suits
"You put your interests above mine. Im just putting mine next to yours"
@@yngwiemalmsteenparaguaio9887the company control are lives .
Yeah, if anything inflate the time it takes to do a task so as to manage expectations. The last thing you want is for them to come through and expect you to perform tasks at a given rate when you *literally can't do that*. It's much better to do a work slow down, and set a lower bar while still accomplishing all of your work. The kicker is it pushes the company to hire more people. Like, this just in y'all, but companies don't hire people out of the goodness of their heart. They're for profit operations. If you do more work, then you eliminate the number of possible jobs at a company.
I'm so in support of quiet quitting because it's seriously just part of the rules of playing this game we call work. If the bosses and companies want to use leverage for more work you can't be mad when workers do the same. I find this whole movement both infuriating and fascinating at the lack of self awareness these companies response.
I work a full time job, and I also contract on the side. My contract work is done on weekends (only requires roughly 4-6 hours a week to maintain/modify old RPG code). During my work week, my FTJ gets 100% of my attention, and I've gotten nothing but glowing reviews, and my contract employer has been very pleased with my performance. It can be done, but requires immense discipline. Not everyone can do it.
Guys, never sign noncompete agreements or NVAs. All you are doing is setting yourself up to get sued by your former employer, when you leave. As long as it doesn't hurt your primary job, work two jobs.
I 1000% agree.
That can take you to court decades later because they never put an expiration date on those clauses
yeah, noncompete are bs
Companies are already doing checks to make sure you left your previous job before you start a new one. And explicitly putting that on job offers, paperwork.
Kris, that is one of the reasons people leave industries they have been in for decades. They didn't realize the non compete they signed didn't have an expiration date!
Around here, it's law that if a non-compete causes you to be unable to find a new place of employment, then your old employer owes you your full salary, even without you working there, until the non-compete binds you.
If your old employer tries to sue you for going to another company, then they could literally screw themselves over.
And the most that the company could demand of you is the amount of extra compensation that they owe you for signing the non-compete.
Now, granted, I live in Europe, but still.
I am going to pretend to be surprised because a CEO doesn't want others to make as much money as they do.
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and thats the truth on it, haters gonna hate
Yup I know how the people who want to work 2 full time jobs feel. If one company is screwing you just cut them out and move to the other company or to just put in what you need to and nothing more to a company that is just treating you like garbage. My current company in the last year and a half laid off at least 50 people that were in the managerial or executive positions. They also basically changed the organization in such a terrible way where it feels like it's going to steps back, rather than progressing as a company. Hundreds of workers both managerial and front line have quit and found new jobs. The problem is that not enough jobs where I am are remote, or with a decent salary if it is remote. So it's hard to find a back up option.
I agree with you 100%. As long as the employment contract does not forbid it, your time is your time and you should be able to work for two different employers, part time or full time.
Your time is YOUR time, no matter what a contract says. Prioritise yourself, with no exceptions.
It’s not two jobs, it’s diversifying your sources of income
CEO says "you're cheating if you go back home to your family instead of inspiring creativity with US, your FAMILY". Welcome back :D hope you're doing well
:D omg a scam bot
I agree if you're on a salary. Paid by the hour is different.
I was a software engineer mostly on salary. My 2nd gig was to create my own products rather than a 2nd employment. I worked at one large tech company where at times I was called a "bench engineer" meaning they wanted to keep me but didn't really have any project for me. So basically for months I could work on my own projects fulltime.
Thanks for doing what ur doing. Sick of these creeps
Didn't most Boomers say "get two jobs and stop buying Starbucks!"
So glad you call out these dudes in power on their insane words and actions. No one else has the balls to do it but you do. Thank you.
I wouldn't say that, exactly.
However, he's really good at it ^.^
It just sucks that people keep putting up with it.
People been calling it out, it's just nice to have someone to rally behind. No one has yet been strong enough to call out and stand against the BS. Hopefully we get more influential people to push this needle and put the people that quote, "I pay the market price" for jobs on blast and change the pay for everyone and all jobs for the better.
And nothing will come of it
@@justsomeguy6336 A small influence is still a great influence. At least someone has the balls to speak out, instead of most who hide and take what's given to them with no fight at all in them.
@@The__Gent Nothing will happen
Thank you for making these videos and discussions so needed today. You are a hero.
My boss once told me that if I've finished all of my work that I should start looking for things to do. I started selling artwork that I created during my downtime and made an extra hundred or more dollars a day. Sure beats forcing myself to do something no one needs me to do for $0 extra a day.
If you’re willing, could you hand me some tips on how to get started with that? I’ve been trying to get into the same thing more now because, I left my job for pretty much the same reasons on the vid
@@MrBrownProdigy the biggest tip for getting started is to gain a following. It's also one of the hardest to do because of algorithms and how everything is trying to force short form video now. I built up a following on Instagram and started selling small original drawings through the messages there. Since then I've created my own website where I sell prints, stickers, and originals. I also started getting tables at conventions but those really require you to spend some money up front in the hopes that you do well at the show.
What I have learned though is that if you make traditional drawings and gain even a small following then you'll sell those originals pretty steadily. Prints, stickers and other products created from digital art sell well at conventions but not great outside of that. Also, Patreon is a great way to have a relatively steady amount of money coming in as long as you provide exclusive artwork and such to your patrons.
I’ll keep that mind, I have a small page on instagram already. Just working on building it further. Now I just gotta figure out a way to move past that. I do a mix of original work and fan base digital art
@@MrBrownProdigy that's a good place to start
Loyalty is a two way street.
In my early 20s I was the person always looking for more work. Overtime I got more work and maybe sometime rewarded but mostly just more work. It was to the point that I sent the bar too high for coworkers and ruining working relationships.
Everything changed when I stopped over performing and instead just performed and spent all my extra time and energy on relationships and learning new skill sets. From time to time those things came in the form of NEW work but most of the time not, it was time I spent on me. I work a lot less and make a lot more money now.
Wow, Joshua, great video, this is what I think but nobody talks. Thanks!
Saw this post on LinkedIn and knew Joshua Fluke was going to talk about it 😂😂😂
You hit all of the nails directly on their heads!! 💯💯💯
You are spitting straight facts in this video!
Exactly. People don’t understand that being OverEmployed isn’t a cakewalk. You still put in hard work, and you get paid for it. It’s that simple
not to mention the reason people are overemployed is usually because they're underpaid.
And whose fault is that?
Yep, this is the reason I'm not overemployed. You still have to effectively work two jobs, doesn't matter if its 40hrs or 80hrs, the mental load is the same. It's very impressive to me that people can actually do that for long periods of time.
@@Nerobyrne Sometimes they are paid adequately BUT the adequate pay does not cut in your area for all the cost of living, especially urban areas like Los Angeles
@@simonebernacchia5724 but wouldn't that mean it's not adequate?
@@Nerobyrne exactly why I don't take lead or manger positions anymore😂🤣
I'm slow to respond to my emails and teams messages, because I don't watch my inbox all the time, and actually execute my work. The expectation that I drop doing something immediately to respond to another asinine email and lost track of where I was, and have to start over again is ridiculous.
but how can manager feel important if you don't constantly check email and messages and answer immediately
Can’t you be an octopus 🐙 and use all of your tentacles?
Management never understands this because they actually do NOT do anything except watch their email and Teams and bother people because they have nothing else to do. Like my manager always sitting and watching his emails and IMs just waiting and waiting for something new to come in to respond to. They are an overpaid admin assistant to themselves.
@@riseabove3082 💯. Most businesses could let go of a significant number of their managers and they would still run perfectly well. I respect the hardworking cleaners way more than the overpaid, egotistical managers who sit around barely doing anything.
I would love to have one job. I have to work a full time job and squeeze in as many side hustles as I can make time for and it’s still not enough to support my family
I love this channel, there’s literally no one in my life who can relate to me . Watched a few videos and and every one of them resonates with me.
The employer doesn't see your life as belonging to you. They see that they are buying you.
Common morals aren't really applicable in capitalist relations. Everyone is basically doing what they can get away with. His tirade raises the question: "If I do my absolute best in your job, will you promise to never fire me?". This douche thinks he has the right to preach like he is Trotsky, but his socialist ethics only work in one direction.
It’s based off of slavery they took the mind set of slavery to make huge profits and pay people peanuts.
Just RENTING me, for eight hours
@@mulattoassassin Also, I think if you work one well paying job and get a wage reduction you can collect unemployment. But, if you are working more than one job to afford rent or support a family or live a middle class lifestyle and lose one of those jobs, then you can't collect unemployment on that job until you get another. That is something we need to look into.
@@simonebernacchia5724 Well, yes, they see it as buying the exclusive rights to your labor or time for 9 hours a day. They then want to get every drop of blood out of you that they can and the more you work they don't pay you more. This might not be an issue if there was a defined limit on the project or work like an actor has on a movie. Sure, you give them everything you got to make that movie, but there are very clear union standards, pay rates, and an employment contract, all of which we don't have. And that is project based work with gaps in work with no stigma etc. etc.
Then they need to pay us for two jobs and what we do on our off time is our business. They don’t own us. I’ve had companies want to hire me but decide not to hire me because I had a job in the evening. They told me I had to quit the job that was not on their time. I told him to kiss my ass
Funny how ethics and honesty goes out the door when employers fire us for no reason and without notice to save themselves pennies on the dollar but that’s a conversation for another day…
I just don't understand how they can all be so, SO far removed from the reality that most of us are living in. I struggle to believe that any of them are actually this dumb; surely it must be deliberate malice?
And, well, you won't find a single empath among top executives, so I guess that's just natural.
They don't live like an average person and they don't care about the peasants.
Theyre not removed from reality, theyre lying to you to keep working for slave wages, theyre soulless blood suckers.
They live in a bubble and they pay for that privilege. The problem with living in a bubble is when it pops well we know how that works.
bro the so called "giants" in Indian IT industry are also quite stubborn and are firing employees who are doing 2 jobs and everyone knows that these giants don't pay enough for which employees are forced to take 2 jobs.
this is another reason why a lot of people started freelancing when COVID started.
I don't call it a lie when an employer does not ask a particular question. We are told "DON'T " offer up to much information and I have found employers leave a lot of holes in the one sided conversations in the past. Do the best you can with cards you have and when it isn't working for you pack up and leave.
I just recently witnessed the amount of leverage a person with two jobs can have. The higher ups wanted to bring (force) the rest of my team back to the office despite them working perfectly fine from home the past 2 years. One of them works part time for this company (15-20 years) while also working remotely for another job. My direct boss argued with the higher ups that they could just quit if forced back.
Lo and behold, said person doesn't have to come into the office :p
that's why it is the one simple trick that all CEOs hate
When you are essential to a business and have another job or verified other options in the industry you get to do whatever tf you want as long as you produce results lol.
That person must have been worth keeping. So many times people who don’t want to come back can be replaced. The better you are at your job the more you can write your own rules. I am a Millennial who has been working from home 15 years and have made it non negotiable.
@@clutchboi4038 I just typed essentially the same thing!
@@clutchboi4038 The essential part is 100% true. I work in a shop and can do almost everything there.. Other guys try to do just 1 thing and not learn much else. when work slows down and Boss needs to send A few guys home. I volunteer to go but he won't send me home, he says I need you Here, the other guys are on the chopping block. 🤣
Companies love when "hustle culture" is exploitable in employee's mindset but when it's for personal use it's called criminal. These talking head CEO's are out of touch and trying to work an angle.
Stealing: to steal another's property ( private, intellectual, work). having two three or more jobs is NOT stealing but not compensating correctly for someones work IS STEALING. I know professors who are experts at job accumulation. one even has 250 JOBS! ( most of them are board member jobs where you have to just show up once or twice a month or is just on a "need to" basis). What IS stealing is expecting people to do extra hours and not getting compensated for the extra hours put in. I know a guy in LA that worked 2 jobs to make ends meet. 9-5 and then from 1800-2 am. He did what was required and stipulated by the contracts.
4:45, lesson I learned and applied, NEVER work beyond your pay grade, managers will extort your willingness to want to learn and excel and always give you the raw end of the stick when it comes time for a promotion. I remember I would use my lunch break to help trainees, trying to get a feel for a supervisor position, my manager loaded me with work and would ask me to stay a few times an extra hour, WHICH I WAS NOT PAID. Then, eight months later, I get refused the position, it was given to someone who already had experience as a supervisor, in six different companies, IN THE SPAN OF TWO YEARS. The only thing I told my manager was he was delusional if he thought this seasoned worker was going to stay loyal to our company. Three months later, the guy quits, I ask for the position since I was second in line, they say no, I quit shortly after. Earn more money if you can, work multiple jobs if you, but never give away your effort and never let these corporate dihk-bags fool you into being a slave.
How does overtime pay work in the us? Here in Brazil it's in the federal labor law that all overtime is paid with 50% increase to the hour worked, or the extra hours are deducted from other days. and any contract that tries to say otherwise is plain illegal.
This is a great take. Thank you for this.
My Grandfather had 2 jobs at the International Harvester plants, as a first shift machine operator and a second shift welder. He had just enough time to run from one building to the next, got away with it for about a month until the payroll office caught on.
My employer in their contact doesn't allow 2nd jobs, but has the ability to lay you off for up to 12 months. Now they don't know why people wouldn't come running back.
"You are hired as full time slave. Your soul, time, and energy is mine."
Very good points
EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. | Thanks, for the straight-talk facts about slavers with sensitive feelings.
I am a CEO of a software company. I encourage all my employees to go and get a second job. As soon as you deliver to me certain things by the end of 2 weeks (we negotiate what's going to be delivered). When I talk to my employees I always ask how they are doing on a second job. If anything needs to be adjusted becase this particular week is crazy for them. The only requirement for employees- they have to bring value and profit to me. During hiring process i tell everyone that my goal is to make company profitable. And your goal should be making living and developing your skills. Our goals are different. They should be different. They are different. This is working incredibly well and I feel so bad for CEO stucked in the past who cannot understand the world has changed.
Don't happen to be in Texas, do you? :-D
Wow, what company do you run? What if both companies _need_ some engineer for a big push? What if the other company had an emergency over the weekend and your engineer is now exhausted? This seems very naïve to me...
You should be the standard.
@@ericomfg Yeah, it's not very realistic.
Usually if someone is able to successfully work a 2nd full-time job. Its because they are so under-utilized in their first full-time job they can work the 2nd full-time job basically un-noticed.
The only way I see this working is if this company allowed this job to be #2 priority from the employees 2nd job.
Because I don't know of many companies that would hire someone full-time and then be a lesser priority to another job or project. It kinda defeats the purpose of employing them full-time. Its clear even this CEO draws the line at being #2, so why would they expect another company to be #2 ?
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I was working at McDonald's and taco Bell / pizza hut as a kid in summer.. they tried this crap at McDonald's....I said match the salary that I would be missing if I quit the other guys when I said that they left me the hell alone!
omg the angel investing angle is such a burn! good point!
bro you do a really great job spot all these things!!!! Love you
You know, the funny part is when he referenced being in two meetings for two different companies. Let's be honest, those meetings don't need to happen. I read an article where one worker had 4 full time jobs and rotated between three business meetings at the same time. A lot of companies use meetings as attendance, not their real function.
Lol that's awesome, hope that dude piled up some savings
I tried to find the story but ended up with a lot of "why it's unethical to work more than 2 full time jobs" articles lol.
Oh, sounds great!
In Germany you are tracked with tax agency, meaning with 2 or 3 jobs you pay so many taxes, It's not always worth
@@MiaMizuno People working two jobs still pay taxes in the US though..
@@MrIgorkap I know, I mentioned we have an extra tax that charges on top of the 60%
@@MatthewEaton thanks! Very interesting read. I've felt the same throughout my life, that most jobs are just too easy and I could do 1-3 at once if dedicated. 70+ hours a week is wild to work though, not sure I could do that long term. Gotta say I'm very interested in this wkf stuff now... Wonder if I can pick up a relatively easy part time wkf job for extra cash...
Wow, those that work hard and working two jobs get punished...that explained why slackers always get rewarded. Another reason to never go above and beyond
They learn the hard way
I work two jobs. In one of my work contracts it specifically states that I cannot take secondary employment. However I learnt the hard way at the start of Covid where I was stood down at last minute notice due to lockdowns (multiple) and my salary almost halved during the the first 8 months. I burned through my savings in the first six months of Covid trying to keep afloat. I got desperate and managed to score a second job working from home just to make ends meet.
My hours were returned to normal two and a half years after Covid started. Too little too late. I will never allow myself to be in such a vulnerable position. Yes our govt gave packages to help struggling families and singles during Covid however it covered the bare minimum. I still had responsibilities to pay for. I manage both jobs and got promoted at my secondary job. I make it work. Never allow yourself to be vulnerable to homelessness.
I love this ranting channel, I feel so understood. Haha. Congrats on the great content. It's so entertaining.
Also sue Equifax, they did not get your permission to put that data on your credit report. The information is private. Also sue your employer if you did not give consent for a credit check. Freeze the credit companies if you are working more than one job.
Here comes the “no moonlighting” terms of employment conditions.
This reminds me of when Jimmy John’s had “non compete” clauses in their contract. It was worded in such a way that if a worker changed to ANY restaurant that serves sandwiches, it must be at least 50 miles away, or some such garbage.
I have two jobs and i had to have this whole discussion about two major points.
One: what i do on my own time is my buisiness.
Two: i will strickly adhere to the schedule to ensure adequate rest.
Rest and recovery was a major concern about one of my jobs since it requires a lot of brainpower and technical prowess so i need to be at 100%. This was them saying this and they hate that i have the second job. 8 hour rest time per day is required. To make the schedule work friday i go for 22 hours non stop, but one of the jobs is so easy that I'm literally typing this at work.