10,000 Clone Troopers vs 10,000 Stormtroopers! - UEBS: Star Wars Mod Battle Simulator
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- We are FINALLY Deciding who has the superior army, the Republic or the Empire. 10,000 Clone Troopers are going up vs 10,000 stormtroopers? Will the heroes of the Clone Wars or the heroes of the Galactic civil war win? The clone army or the stormtrooper army? Lets find out! This was made using the UEBS Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator Star Wars Mod.
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The Stormtrooper Corps is the Elite Regiment of the Imperial Army. Contrary to what we see, the vast majority of imperial soldiers in the Galaxy aren't stormtroopers. They were the best of the best, and their skills are blatantly mentioned in the movies. However, stormtroopers were still incredibly inferior to clones, who as Daley says are literally bred for battle. Definitely better armor, arguably better blasters, drastically better training, ideal genetics.
"Contrary to the overwhelming majority of material available (like 99%) where even the most piece if shit insignificant planet is garrisoned by stormtroopers with no army trooper in sight"
Cope harder
The stormtrooper equipment was actually improved, using the templates of previous clone equipment. Clone equipment was also used partially with legacy clone troopers.
@kubli wtf are you talking about
@@bobbirdsong6825 The equipment was improved but the armor was not it was actually downgraded, and weaker but cheaper but the Galactic Empire had a much larger army of just as efficient but inferior soldiers recruited from the entirety of the empire while the clone army relied on their primary manufacture from one planet.
It was basically quantity over quality.
@@ryankaiser2702 stormtrooper armor was more comfortable and adaptable than clone armor, that is why it exists
@@bobbirdsong6825 yes but it was designed if 1 shot was taken the troop was incapacitated where clones (thorn is a really good example tanking 2 shots and still fighting solo) where the storm troopers were easily defeated with 1 shot
Stormtroopers were worse than clones but they were cheaper and were supposed to be an semi-elite policing force (while the clones were professional soldiers)so it makes complete sense that they would lose. It is kind of interesting that the empire adopted republic and separatist strategy by using good tactics and horde tactics
Yes sir!
501st should have won.
Really the army units for empire were the lowest of low, stormtroopers were the medium to high level in quality
the only difference on why storm troopers were worse than clones:
Fire accuracy...
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Well,they were trained by clone commandos,and we all know how bad clone commandos were in actual warzones
5:37 ah yes here we see the clones using the signature Jedi jump they learned under their generals in the war
lol🤣🤣
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Well, the clones did do poorly when they didn't have any sort of cover. Stormtroopers are probably used to walking headfirst into blaster fire.
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true lol
200th like and yes
Stormtroopers: “I hate my life…”😒
Clonetroopers: “Good soldiers’ follow orders…”😎
Me : * causally naming every clonetrooper and giving them a backstory *
Since when did Stormtroopers hate their lives?
@@jimmymadzcfc4836 in the movie a lot of stormtroopers said they hated there lives
@@Militarytycooncollection when? Stormtroopers had no dialogue and Stormtroopers get paid unlike Clones and they can do lots of things in there free time, they had more freedom then the clones and were treated really well
@@jimmymadzcfc4836 Actually that's wrong they do not get paid, they get to stay in the galactic empire, And also they don't their only free time is sleep, and lunch every stormtrooper must be on duty on Deathstar, motherships, grand borders, Sstar, and legend says that rebels and stormtroopers are still fighting. rebels actually want freedom, stormtroopers don't have freedom there force to fight or die
There comes a time where every man asks himself who’s better clones or stormtroopers
yep
Yep
The mark of a true man
yup and if you know what your talking about you say clones
Storm troopers couldn’t hit water if they fell out of a boat. Clones for sure
Realistically the clones have the upper hand, but those death troopers can out class the commandos, just better armor wepons and similar training. Although useing the wrong clone units in the wrong aria is a signal for disaster, stormtroopers are kinda all around units
Wow what e anglish
@@Callum_Summer0972 your’s is worse
@@trollkenobi6727 Because i made them shït on purpose
The lore for the clone troopers is pretty consistent and accurate based on their performance in the movies/series. Stormtrooper lore is all over the fricken place. The first ST lore painted them as clone troops bred for the Empire. Then they were elite troops taken from academies and schools, then they were conscripts and penal troops even. They are stated as being elite troops, but as we never see the regular imperial troops in action- except for one brief scene in Solo- it's very hard to make that comparison. Also, the heroes in the original trilogy all have extreme levels of plot armor vs imperial troops. When not facing the main heroes, stormtroopers kicked ass, but mostly off screen and/or implied. I honestly don't think ewoks are a fair comparison to stormtroopers as they were wookies as originally written. Lucas didn't change the script after changing from wookies to teddy bears.
huh cool
Newbie: There's no way the stormtroopers could lost to Clones.
Everyone else: HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHA
The empire would ice those fools. The clones get too much credit for being apart of 1 decent show.
@@Radjondle the clones are ment for war. not to mention they have literally spent 10 years of constant training. the stormtroopers are just recruits and regular human beings and are not as well trained or modified.
@@swordswipe9994 oh yeah, the clone troopers were literally bread for war, and the stormtroopers were just hired grunts. I guess the clones are more inclined in battle.
Small correction: The stormtroopers we're graduates from various Imperial Academies, while the Imperial Army was the randoms that were enlisted into the Empire.
Too bad we never see anything about this supposed Imperial Army and Stormies are treated like the regular troopers.
@@zeratul____1228 agreed, besides Comics and books. Stormtroopers are the Elite forces
@@zeratul____1228 Didn't we get to see the normal imperial army in the solo movie? (Battle on Mimban)
@@maddi5920 yes that was where Han meet Chewie and the initial crew he joined who snuck into the Empire army to steal a ship
Their armor was even worse then stormtrooper armor without even fully enclosed helmets or sealed suits as shown with the armor Han wore
Only imperial stormtroopers could be so precise
I stumbled upon your channel a few days ago, watched tons of your videos and found myself purchasing this game and spent my entire day off creating battles. Once I got the controls and how things play out, it was a blast!
2:25 stormtroopers although not as good as clones still received some of the best training the empire could offer making them some of the empires best, just under special units such as death and scout troopers
The difference is; the stormtroopers are conscripts, different people from different backgrounds. You can train them all you want but they are fundamentally individuals and individuals have flaws.
The clones are genetically engineered for war, they don’t have flaws, they are _designed_ to be the very best at their role.
There is not a stormtrooper in the galaxy that can stand up to a clone.
@@realburglazofficial2613 that's not accurate during the height of the empire. The stormtrooper corps was only for the Elite and most loyal imperial army troopers some of which were conscripted but many many of which enlisted in the military themselves, and as such they actually could hold a candle to clones. Now equal sized forced, clones would win. But you really think there's not a single man in billions of elite soldiers that can fight a clone? A b1 battle droid can fight a clone. Jar jar killed clones, albeit accidentally. Clones aren't super soldiers, just really good soldiers.
Daley later this year you should remake your old modern day American revolution series with the red rising mod and make it a big series like army men civil war
When you can semi-reliably hit the broad side of a barn, you've graduated from the Storm Trooper school of marksmanship.
This isn’t all about damage and HP of the single soldier. The most important part especially in range battles is that your team outnumber the enemy in every small part of the battle. Like when you can move a big line in front of a small corridor. When the enemies are forced to enter in small numbers the corridor and get shot faster than their allies enter it, you have always more firepower and your soldiers are taking hits for each other. To put in a nutshell: based on luck the two sides used the small corridors and bigger areas to outnumber the enemy on a smaller scale, so they can focus on the few unlucky enemies, who ran into them without being able to deal much damage.
It is similar like when you let range units fight close combat units: let the close combat run all together and they will reach the range units. If you force them to form a long line, the first half will get slaughtered before the first one of the second half will become the next target.
I think it is also true that the army with more HP+AP/Unit will win. For example the one side is 2x as strong but has 1/2 units, they would probably still dominate because they are basically 2 Soldiers in one. If one of two weak soldiers get shot, the firepower gets cut in half. If a strong soldier with the 2x power get as much damage as it needs to kill a weaker soldier, he still deals as much damage as 2 Soldiers.
2:25 smh
"The members of the Imperial Army's Stormtrooper Corpsserved on the frontline as elite shock troops, and their loyalty to the Empire was absolute as a result of their training. (...) Unlike their predecessors, the majority of stormtroopers were non-clone recruits. Imperial cadets were shipped off to Imperial Academies, and subjected to rigorous training programs in order to produce highly trained shock troopers fiercely loyal to the Empire. Cadets could be as young as thirteen standard years. Stormtroopers were trained to disregard fallen comrades in battle, and to press on, no matter the cost, even when the odds were stacked against them."
- Wookiepedia: Stormtrooper (canon)
I think we already know
I haven’t watch this video yet but I am guessing that the stormtroopers will somehow manage to miss an entire army
It would be awesome if it has blue laser for the clones
I'd love to see this again but with the stormtroopers having more troops than the clones because the imperial soldiers found their strength in their sheer numbers. I also would love to see some of the specialty troops mixed into the big battle. Like some 501st clones and a few death troopers, not just basic clones versus basic storm troopers. Just an idea for a future video.
Fun fact. Some imperial Stormtroopers were clone wars veterans from different battalions. Most popular, the 501st.
the early ones yes it hink
I also liked the kamino uprising from the Classic battlefront 2 rise of the empire campaign
3:46 clone trooper casually flying and Daley doesn’t notice
>10000 clones of one of the most lethal men to ever roam the stars
vs
>10000 of whoever walked in the building to sign up
When you realize that there only were 10000 republic commandos bred...
Oh shit
There is a lot of fun poked at how bad Stormtroopers' aim was, yet were they? Or did they miss on purpose, after all, Obi-Wan states that only Imperial Storm Troopers are so precise when pointing out the blast markers on the Jawa transport. And they could have purposefully missed to allow Luke, Han and Leia to escape (after all, its acknowledged it was part of the plan).
Finally someone who has worked out the truth.
Stormtroopers could aim, one must only analyze the boarding of the Tontine IV where the rebels have cover and a choke point yet are still easily defeated while the Stormtroopers suffer 2 or 3 casualties.
If there was a way to teleport the Imperial Army and the Grand Army of the Republic, getting every combat troop, the Empire would win. Not because the Empire has better training, it doesn't but because of sheer numbers. Even if every clone trooper were to be picked up, the GAR would only have 2.7 million soldiers. The Imperial Army, however, has nearly 200,000 combat troopers per system they control. We know the Empire held hundreds of star systems, so at a minimum we're talking about 20 million Stormtroopers.
I'd love to see the ultimate Republic vs Imperial battle with all three of one side against the other! It would be LEGENDARY!!!!!
Agree 60,000 units
@@Kardur_Wrath_of_the_Abyss Bro, two years later. Brought back memories...
2:49 my guys just backflipped 🤣🤣🤣
Dude, you placed Marine Ground Pounders (501st) against Snipers (Imperial Scouts). The moment the snipers got a bit of range they had the advantage, of course they would win! T.T
Still, good video and fun to watch
There’s actually two armies in the Galactic Empire used the ubiquitous storm trooper corps and the lesser known but much much larger and inferior imperial army trooper corps. You see them as examples like the imperial officer in the recent Star Wars battlefront two game that’s about as much armor that an imperial trooper got a chest piece some gauntlets a helmet and that was the basic kit for a standard imperial trooper they weren’t like the elite storm trooper corps but they had much more of them.
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Commando body: ‘Well, guess I got to reorient myself to fit the pile!’
Daley: I’m gonna have a bopping royalty free soundtrack so it isn’t completely silent.
Also Daley: _crickets_
Edit: Ah it was a slow burn track haha, nvm
Just subbed and can’t wait for the 400k mark!! First vid of yours I’ve seen and already love it since… it’s Star Wars and who doesn’t love our Star Wars?
Love your vids, been watching for a while keep it up man you’re a great guy !!!
In lore, the stormtroopers are still far more elite and well trained than local planetary defense forces and rebel scum
nah disney killed that lore
@@lucasart328 fair in rebels and fallen order they are more like ordinary cops
Disagree on Storm Trooper viewpoint. Obi Wan literally says that storm troopers are precise when he and Luke are cleaning up the Jawa bodies. Additionally, they stomped the rebels in episode 4. They were only bad when the plot needed them to be.
I guess clones would be better than them, but stormtroopers are still better than people give them credit for.
I also forgot to mention, in the final battle, the clones lacked the combat range of the scouts which led to their downfall. Should both sides be given weapons of the same range, the clones would win.
In lore it would make sense why an army Of commandos would lose against an army of death troopers as it has been shown that while yes commandos are more well trained they are not suited to large scale battles and have been shown to die quicker than normal clones in such conditions
Something is acting as a gut feeling at this time, that you lowered the 501st legion to balance it out, no way a legion of clone troopers run by the man himself could honestly get taken down like that.
Finally the Show down of a life time I always wanted this to be a thing
He should do more clones vs stormtroopers
This battle was epic, there were so many battles happening everywhere.
I always wanted to do Clone Troopers vs. Storm Troopers in the old Battlefront games on PS2. I know that the clones become the storms but it was still what I wanted to do. The closest you could get was that one story mission where you go to Kamino with Boba Fett.
Hi Daleytactics I thought that the clone commandos would lose but guess not for the clone army. And for the Wolfpack
Have you no faith in your fellow clones?
The troopers have unlocked the power of flight....
but then forgot how to use the flight and fall
Yay I'm flying
5 seconds later: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The storm trooper believe it or not was an elite unit. They weren’t part of the normal galactic army, it’s very predominant in movies that they are portrayed as a normal army however as I say the books say otherwise.
I feel like they get a bad reputation given that the movies are only from the good guys point of view. With it making them look awful against the heroes with their plot armor.
that was more or less phased out - they just a police force - or MPs
@@ulyssespulido9556 ahh yes, lets view from the people who commit genioside, slavery, torture, etc.....
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 Ah yes because what the rebels do is all sunshine and rainbows. They literally have rebels in their name who let’s not forget decided to do the let’s topple the galactic government and not have a plan to fill in the power vacuum. The New Republic reverted back to how it was.
@@ulyssespulido9556 so you ok with genocide and slavery.....but weak government is the worst thing. Sigh people use to have morals now being a nazi is chill
Palpatine: how do we get a better military
Inquisitors!
DEATH STAR!
We could just churn out a bunch of soldiers that can't shoot straight over clones
Palpatine: promote that guy!
Clone was to expensive and was bad in the long run.
*This is where the fun begins*
I can't wait to see the elite units for both sides!
Little known facts. Stormtroopers are actually elite troops of the Empire. The infantry army troopers are the enlisted troops (those we see in Solo on that super muddy planet are Imperial Army Troopers and not Stormtroopers.
StormTroopers are always seen running around in the open and have terrible aim, The Clone Troopers are unionized and accurate. Death troopers weapons are one of the most powerful blaster weapon whilst Commados have the most lethal melee attack
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Also, yeah, Stormtroopers could never stand up to Clones, especially if the Hero Clones were there. Rex would demolish them for days
Should have done a balanced team for each for the last test (a mix of the different units) so that way they apply more strategy. I wonder how that would have gone? Would the snipers stayed back to cover the advancement of the heavy troops while the mid range run down the middle? XD lol
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Stormtrooper: at lesst we killed more than 2500, a 1/4 of the whole enemy
Clone trooper: not enough to match us
The 501st clone troopers were outnumbered by 4 scout troopers, I wonder if it would've made a difference if the 501st had 4 more troopers
It was absolutely frustrating to just view the first encounter from the frog perspective and only in that alley for an eternity!!!! I would have liked to see more of a birds perspective, especially in the first few minutes of the battle where big numbers of troops collide
Fun video, great commentary. Does UEBS give a cost or value to the different units so that two armies of different sizes but approximately the same strength/value/cost could be compaired?
If you mean a dollar estimate of how much it would cost to train and field a number of units, no. But the version of UEBS I played a few years ago had a menu for modifying units and there you could look at the base stats of those units. Another (slightly off topic) feature that I haven't seen used very much is the ability to split the total force of a unit type into smaller groups. It's a pretty neat simulator for its price, even though I was lucky to get 1 frame per minute on the potato laptop I was running it on.
This seems like a sound military tactic for both sides haha
i think if star wars made an actual movie on this the clones would win cuz they can actully do more stuff than the empire, but those wer still really good battles great video daley im suscribing and liking this video
And Rex being one of the surprisingly best survivability clones there was
So, something I love about this is the bodies remain. I'm wondering if you could mod BF2 somehow to let all the bodies pile up.
The clones should win no doubt, a lifetime of training vs months of training
You should do, best 2 out of 3 with each match up, changing sides each time. How the choke-points are created may change the results of the battles.
If you look closely at round 3 the 501st are 4 troopers shorter than the scout troopers
I dont think that the question "who would win: clone troopers or storm troopers?" is an "age old question", clones were literally trained from birth . And if the storm troopers had higher numbers, the clones would still win. They would take on tens of thousands of droids with only a few thousand of their own. Im pretty sure any sane person would say clones would win.
Clones v Stormtrooper and Commando v Scout Trooper seemed like obvious answers to me. But Commandos v Death Troopers got my attention.
"Officially, there was no clone rebellion on Kamino."
3:44 what a chad jump
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Great vid as always Daley, road to 400k, have a great day 👍.
Yess sirrr also hey again
@@armysimulator449 hello
Can finally settle the clones beef with enlisted storm troopers
A battle of the ages
At least the clone troopers can hit what they're aiming at, LOL.
6:21 When even the high ground is not enough.
The only battle ever where no one gets shot
The kamikaze behavior of the troops makes it sound a bit unrealistic.
Clone troopers were elite, yet limited in number, took a long time to breed, raise, train.
The empire uses "stormtroopers" which were essentially a little more then conscripts and volunteers. They needed a instant huge policing force for their vast new empire which would creat a power vacuum across the galaxy. thus Stormtroopers, which could be anyone from a farmer, to ex-bounty hunter, were vast in numbers yet incredibly less skilled. It explains a lot from the SW cannon lore and you see some of it in the films (hence they are just errible) in comparison to clone troopers which can go head on against any army in the galaxy at the time and win.
God I hate all the misinformation about stormtroopers. Did you watch episode 4? Ben tells you they're elite soldiers. The stormtrooper corps according to the EU were the elite, best of the best, of the Imperial Army Troopers. Stormtroopers were NOT rank and file, were NOT conscripts, were NOT JUST volunteers. They needed an instant policing force, but they were phasing out the clones and integrating the Imperial Army Troopers (which there are 1000s of times as many as stormtroopers, literally trillions)
Cybermen Vs The Daleks would be a cool one.
Street fighting? Open field fighting? Don't you know, the only way to win a battle is to have the high ground!
Hey look, it's the First Battle Of Geonosis all over again: Clone Commandos being used as regular leg infantry instead of as special operations troops.
Three battles, 2 loss and 1 win for my guys lol
Hail the scouts!
Well the GAR turned into the stormtroopers corps of the imperial army and the first stormtroopers were clone troopers. And clone continued the be slowly fazed out but were still produced less and less. So this battle depends on when the stormtroopers are around. And stormtroopers were elite and fanatic but usually less elite then clones. And cl9ne troopers weap9ns were overpowered. Geetlsy did a vid on clone trooper weapons and how OP they are. But stormtroopers e11s are practically civilian blasters.
14:06 What are those sped up Republic Comando lines?!? 🤣
The E-11D Blasters of the Death Troopers are the coolest weapons in Star Wars, period!
You should do the Grand Army Of The Republic vs. Empire on the D-Day map and have 2 fights, one team attacks, the other defends and switch.
I dont even play this game or any star wars for that matter but i love these videos!
if you add up the forces left and the ones KIA it only adds up to 9913........so the Stormtroopers outnumber them not by much but had numbers on their side. I guess "Quality over Quantity" really is true.
also just to show off im a mega nerd, a single clone was worth 5 or 10 droids.
Considering they were outnumbered by over a hundred times, that's pretty bad. I remember the clone wars show the Toydarian king saying 100 droids per clone. (B1s maybe!)
I see the Clones were armed with the later DC-15S blaster and not the earlier DC-15A version. I wonder if weapon types makes a difference.
I want to see a battle where one character is given god like levels of power and goes up against an army of 10-100k powerful soldiers. I’m talking the most powerful units up against a single person with the highest attributes possible. Able to just punch and blow up everything in his path.
1:45 Its ok I just went "pew pew pew" a bunch while watching the video.
Now do a fourth one with the remnants of all three battles combined fighting for their respective sides.
Storm Troopers can't hit the broadside of a barn if they are standing right next to it. LOL
Pity you can't make Yodas...Pikachu sized laser knights...that would be nuts.
And Vader is upset. His troops lost to the scouts. Somebody will be dead tonight
"Stormtroopers were not especially elite units" bruh,they're exactly that
it's funny, but you're wrong.
the Clones were the normal troopers in the Grand Republic, with elite units, where the Storm Troopers were the special ops of the Empire, with further more elite units existing beyond them.
and while bred for war, the Clones were also the genes of a bounty hunter, and then neutered into only thinking about warfare. they were only good at war, and even then they were still cannon fodder. the Clones are imo to be written as on par with stormtroopers, if slightly worse, due to reduced aging and unnaturally short lifespans, since clones grew older quite a bit faster, even after Kaminoans slowed their aging down considerably
CLONES 100 PERCENT
Clones would win every time in a straight up fight. Being artificially grown at an accelerated rate, living and breathing the military lifestyle from birth, they would have their muscle memory 100% fixated on completing their mission and defeating the enemy. Stormtroopers, no matter how elite, could never quite match the same combat ready effectiveness, although they *would* have the advantage of approaching things entirely differently. Potential tactical advantage when you are open to several perspectives, like the Stormtroopers and their numbers of individual human, instead of being surrounded by copies of yourself and sharing the same perspective, like the clones.
Magnificent, aren’t they