How To Rope-In Back Window Glass Gasket
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2012
- Matt and Scott Goodwin, from Goodwin Restorations, remove and replace the rear window gasket on this '67 Chevy pick-up using the rope-in method. Most vehicles can be completed with similar steps.
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This is a simple job to do, but there are a few things you need to know that were glossed over. When pulling the lip over the pinch weld it is best to pull parallel to the glass. Roll the lip of the rubber just over the pinch weld and tap in the window by cupping your hand and center the area you are slapping. Never slap beyond the rope. The area at the rope is a potential stress point and if you tap beyond it there is a greater chance for breaking the glass. This is more crucial in a laminated glass then tempered as laminate isn't as strong. Work to just over the corners as shown and tap in place but not fully. once the lip is around the entire pinch weld you can tap/slap in the entire window. Follow the edge and tap around the glass until you see it seated properly. This is a tight fit so you may have to add silicone but I would only do this directly to the area which isn't seated properly. I don't recommend using silicone in this replacement as it can cause the window to slide to one side or the other and not center properly when the job is completed...I hope this helps.
just used this on a bobcat front window, you guys saved me by posting this, thank you!
Believe it or not this IS as EASY as it looks! Put the new windshield in my 68 Cougar last night! Thanks for the video!
I did this in my early twenties when restoring an old 1959 case tractor. Havent really seen this "trick' ever since. Glad this video popped up. Thanks
Thanks for watching!!
Thanks mate
Had my Mahindra Bolero glass broken and got quoted R1000.00 ($57.00 approx) for fitment only. Watched your vid 2 times, asked my wife to help and wala screen is firm in place. Thanks a lot for the clear instructions. Liked, subscribed and sure will sharr
That's awesome!! We're glad we could help you and your wife save some extra money by doing it yourselves 💪 Thank you for watching!
I learned to do this trick in 1987 while installing the rear window in my 1957 Cadillac CoupedeVille 2 door hardtop. The gasket didn't exist at that time, but Mr. Lynn Steele himself used my original to mold the reproduction. That is why that particular gasket exists today because of Steele Rubber Products and Mr. Lynn's help. Incidentally, my 86 year old retired master Mechanic neighbor taught me how to do this. Our most important asset are our elders who can teach us all about life.
Daniel, thank you so much for sharing!! We love hearing how many people Lynn helped and touched over the course of his career at Steele Rubber Products. And we're glad you saw this video so you could tell us the story behind the gasket! Just awesome. Thank you again for sharing, and thank you for watching!!
Thanks for making this video, I have an 81 Landcrusier, I had all the windows out to paint... watched your video and we were able to get all the windows make in within a couple hours. Thank you !
Glad to hear we could help you restore the car of your dreams! Thanks for watching!
I love youtube! Thank you Gents for making this look easy.
What?! This is like magic!!! I'm so hopeful this will work on my fiberglass camper!!
You just made my day much easier! That '59 Ford rear window will be in in no time. Thank you!
Thanks guys. I live in central Texas and it is about 100 degrees. The tape was the trick that got the seal in for me without falling off! Really appreciate it. This got me through a project that was frustrating me.
Thanks for the feedback, Greg. Glad we were able to help!
used this video many years ago to replace the back glass on my 93 Toyota Truck, did it myself and it worked great!
Still in place and sealed, TY!
That's awesome!! We're so glad to hear that. Thank you for sharing 🙌😁
job done in 20 minutes, good video
Nice work Jimmy Stewart!
They made it look easy! LOL! It took me over an hour to do mine.
not that bad when you've done a few
+nandoGdog Try to prep the surface and caulk newer cars windows. you would spend 6 hours and still do it wrong.
It’s easy once you’ve done it a few times.
Thanks heavens I found this video. cant wait to get to the shop and try this tomorrow
We're glad to be here to help! Let us know how your project turns out! Thanks for watching!
Thanks guys.
Thank you.
I did my '40 Nash flat glass windshield that has a center bar By Myself! And that one goes in from the inside of the car. I did my '55 Powell also by myself with a Steele rubber gasket, Powell is 1 piece flat about 4.5' long. Super fun and satisfying using the rope method.
Rubber on instalation loves heat getting it heated up by the sun is always , helpful ,the thicker the rubber the more sun you want heating it up before direct instal.
Dont use to thin a cord ( it can cut thru rubber) not to thick ( take up to much room and rubber has no place to go)
Think of it like a finger that fluidly slides across the seal lifting it up over the lip of the mounting flange.
Always use spray rubber lube.
Made for rubber.If you have a automotive glass place near by
Get your string and rubber lube from them the lube they use is usually a commercial grade you wont find at walmart lowes or homedepot or even ACE .
Go slow apply pressure to help locate the glass in the areas you want it. Dont want the glass ,to slip from between the seal .
It does work. Ive done many even when I first tried it it was a continual success.
The rubber warm to hot is good .
Cold rubber ...NOT good.
With a warm rubber gasket , lubericant and the right size cord.
You will always be succesful.
I have done this. And it feel like it’s the only way to do it. I believe you can also put the gasket on the frame first and get the same result
THANKS
how do guys think about things like this who in the world would have thought about that rope trick.....that was really cool I think theses guys are really smart.
yoneyo87 thats how america got built common sense and intelligence
This is the way it's been don't for a very very long time
Great ideas.
Thank you for watching!
I love installing windshields on 2 cylinder Honda cars. I use a nylon 3/16" rope and Windex especially around the top corners. Fit the rubber to the body, trim ends and glue together with Krazy Glue or similar. They actually make some black adhesive like that. Then put it on the glass with the rope on inside where it belongs to pop onto the pinchweld. I have done several alone but it helps to have a friend help.
That's great! Glad you find the rope-in method easy to do. These projects are always better with an extra set of hands. Thanks for watching!
nice video!
I used to install these windows for everyone at a marina. Never seen the rope technique but can say that there are faster ways of doing this. Maybe I´ll make a video closer to the summer.
It really is that easy I prepped my window to gasket one day day ropped it the other and literally took 5 min to rope in. Fyi def get some plastics pry set
91 bronco camper window.
Intelligent 👍
If anyone has trouble pulling the rope just use soap and water. makes it much easier.
Well a windscreen place done my Landrover charged $30 to do front and rear as i already had the new rubbers, i could of done it but for that price i let them do it took then 30 min
It's real thank's bro
thank you, very, very helpful
great video thanks guys i have to fit a glass into the rear of my sprinter
We're glad we could help, good luck on your install! Thanks for watching!!
@@SteeleRubberProducts well didn't go very well i ended up tearing the rubber i am going to try again maybe the rope i used was to big in diameter and was made from nylon
Hate the hear that! Best of luck on your next try!
I used a tool that had a rope and I have done this before on a 1981 Mercedes 240d. For some reason though this time when I used this technique on my 1964 Ford pickup F250 today the rope kept ripping into the rubber. I bought another specialty tool that was a shaft with a small ball and that worked to slip the rubber over the pinched metal. It took 3 of us to get the job done.
Hello, after speaking with our experts, essentially the rope is digging in to the rubber because of the force needed to get the rubber over the lip. Some soapy water would reduce the friction between the rubber and the metal lip. In theory, that would make it easier to get over the lip and reduce the force needed so the rope wouldn’t gouge. Using a secondary tool like you ended up doing is also helpful. Thanks for watching!
great
I found out from an expert that if the window and gasket are positioned slightly to one side, under a quarter inch, the rope will pull out easier on the loose side. Then push/pull the glass over to the other side before pulling the rope on the second side. Much less force needed to pull the rope using this technique.
I'm surprised that this didn't work replacing a gasket polycarbonate window in my CNC machining center. After numerous attempts, it was considerably easier to work the gasket with an allen wrench than using rope. There must be some difference in the gaskets used for each application.
I do these by myself. Easy
Day cab tractors rear glass uses this technique
That's awesome😎
Thank you for watching!
it ain't that easy.i tried for an hour,can't get the corners.i figure i give it a rest for today and try again saturday before i throw the glass across the back yard
kev theplumber lol
nothing soapy water won't help
"round 3:20 or so, it looks like it's getting kinda tricky,but that section is edited out,unfortunately. That was the part I most needed to see,dammit,-the technique at the top corner/s. Otherwise it was a very helpful video,thanks.
Thanks, Scott and Matt for posting. I am wondering if it is very possible to re-use the old gasket on new fixed rear door window on a 1990 Econoline Van? Your insight would be helpful and appreciated. I realize it would not be reccommended but a spare part is unobtanium, afaik.Now, I will check your website for the proper part
Hey Mark! As long as the seal is in good condition it should be ok. Removal and install can be rough on the seal if it’s dry or cracked but if it’s not, should be fine. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and thank you for watching!
@@SteeleRubberProductsThanks for the tvery timely reply. I will inspect it closely. I haven't found any repalcement available.
The best way and the easiest way.is to do rap the rope round the rubber. But do 4 loops too middle and 2 sides. Do 2 inches at a time on all 4 loops. Until glass is installed. It will keep the glass level on all sides .with out glass sliding up or down side to side. Making it harder to get in.
We tried this todau and did not succeed its like window needs hammering to the left then down then right ...just seems we get one side in and then it pops out when getting to corners ...any tips?
We have a transit 1986-2000 window it has a gasket and a plastic bit begore that. Pleaee help!
Hey there, it sounds like you are doing everything right but running into a common issue with these types of gaskets. Assuming all the parts are correct, getting the rubber seated over the pinchweld is tough because the glass is fighting you and the rope is blocking the pinchweld from seating all the way in the channel. Once you get the bottom started and you're pulling the rope, constantly try to push the glass down and into position to get as much of the bottom on as possible. Then move half way up one side, get that in the best position, then halfway up the other side, and so on. Trying to make sure the glass is installed symmetrically. You do have to constantly guide the glass into position and it gets harder as you near the end.
We hope this helps! Don't hesitate to call us at 800-447-0849 or email us at contact@steelerubber.com for quicker communication if you still run into issues. We are open Monday - Friday, 8am - 5pm EST. Thank you for watching!
Only took me and my buddy 15 minutes to do his truck last xmas,, But it is tricky business!
I saw someone using some kind of Sealer, before installing the seal/gasket. They said sometimes just a rubber seal will develop leaks.. Why didn't you use any? And is it the same with older cars with a chrome trim?
Simply stated, the installer just didn't do that for this vehicle. This could have been a situation where this was intended as just a show car- every situation is different. Typically we recommend using bedding and glazing compound between the gasket and the body of the vehicle. Here is a link to our blog post that goes into detail about this situation and the process: blog.steelerubber.com/the-secret-to-a-leak-free-windshield-on-your-classic/. As far as the chrome trim goes, generally that type of gasket has 3 grooves- the glass will go into the gasket first, then the chrome molding is inserted into the gasket, then the rope is inserted and then it's roped in. Thanks for watching!
Hi guys.does this work on a fibreglass canopy side window aswell?if so would it be easier to first take canopy of and try as canopy is more flexible?i battled 3hours today and as we were almost done the side window of canopy popped out.even thaught about sanding/grinding the fibreglass so it will go in quicker and just silicone.hope someone can advise
Hey there! Great question, if the gasket is a rope in style they are generally all about the same, so this process would work. Most of our seals are designed with a gap for the glass (which is 7/32"-1/4") and a gap for the metal sheet frame (1/8"). With fiberglass, generally it's a bit thicker than 1/8" so it won't fit over, and we can't guarantee a secure seal on fiberglass with a gasket that is made for metal. It could be susceptible to leaks or popping out. If the fiberglass is 1/8" thick, then it should work as long as there isn't a lot of flexibility allowing the glass to move too much. We hope this helps! Let us know if you have any other questions, and thank you for watching!
What about the rubber peice that goes inside the the rubber gaste
Is there any sealant/adhesive required, or is the gasket alone sufficient? I'm replacing the front/rear seals on a '54 Belair.
That’s what I was wondering. Their other video on windshield installation included applying “bedder” sealant but in the two videos about rear windows I’ve seen never mention sealant. But their website recommends sealant products when you try to buy a gasket? I’m confused
@@steeliewheelies We sincerely apologize for any confusion we may have caused! The gasket alone is NOT sufficient, you will need to use a sealant to ensure a waterproof and airtight seal. To prevent this comment from being very long, I would recommend taking a look at our blog post, The Secret to a Leak Free Windshield: blog.steelerubber.com/the-secret-to-a-leak-free-windshield-on-your-classic
This post covers everything you need to know about Windshield & Body Sealant (bedding compound) and what type of gaskets you need to use it with. If you still have questions after reading the post, please don't hesitate to contact us directly by phone at 800-650-5135 or by email at contact@steelerubber.com. We will be able to assist you much quicker with those forms of communication. We appreciate you watching our video and bringing your concern to our attention!
@@SteeleRubberProducts thank you very much!
@@steeliewheelies You are welcome!
I have a 1994 2500 GMC reg. Cab with a rubber seal rear sliding window. My problem is that the top drivers side is coming out of its seal. I guess it was so air tight that it blew it out. How can I get it back in place without removing rear window from truck, or does it have to be taken all the way out to be put back in?
We don't sell this particular seal, or any slider window seals at all (yet) so we don't know about exactly how they are different from a stationary window seal. What we do know is that if the gasket has a locking strip, you should be able to remove the locking strip, reposition the window and reinstall the locking strip with no issues. I hope this helps you some. Thanks so much for watching!
Will this method work with Toyota Tacoma 2006? Thanks!
Hey David, this method will only work for a rope in gasket. We aren't certain what type of gasket your Tacoma has but most vehicles now have the glass glued in, not roped in. Hope this helps! Thanks for watching!
After rope is installed spray glass cleaner on rubber as some lubricant then always pull
rope in the direction the of center of glass lifting gasket over pinch weld not pulling
against the pinch weld sides pull towards center, top something you can also wrap the
rope around your hand for better pulling and control .40 years experience . good luck!
Hi all,
What size rope should be used?
Hello Greg! We recommend a 1/8"- 3/16" strong, nylon rope. Thanks for watching!
Dose anyone have tips to remove a rear window for 99 honda civic?
I'm sorry, Donald but we don't. We only make parts for American makes and models. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. Sometimes the total of the glass the pinch and the rubber is so close to the opening measurement that there is not much room for rope. Is there a lube you recommend for when it gets a bit tricky? Soap or something similar? I am looking to do the side cargo windows on a 63 Rambler 2 door wagon and would like to know what you recommend for a lube to assist in roping them in? Thanks!
Yes, we absolutely recommend plain old regular dish soap for lubrication. It's non toxic, wont degrade the rubber like solvent based lubricants and will evaporate over time. Great question. Thanks for watching!
how do i get the front window out and not distroy the rubber sealing
After speaking with technical support, it depends on the type of windshield and if it has chrome trim or not. If you would like you can call and speak with Trent directly for additional information he is here Monday-Friday from 8am-5pm EST at (800) 650-5135 ext. 213.
Thanks
What about the glue that suppose to be inside?
The glue that you're referring to would be clear optical sealant. Permatex still makes some but we don't carry it. Some shops simply use a small amount of glazing compound in its place. It's not absolutely necessary but it's a good idea to use some. Thanks for watching!
Soap and water makes it a bit easier!
Thank you for watching!
I imagine you have to take the old one out? ahhh? no you can leave the old one in there if you want
Yes, definitely have to take the old one out lol
You need to lube the rubber or pinchweld never install dry.
Excellent point. To lubricate anything during an installation like this we recommend using plain old dish soap. It'll provide the slick surface you need to wiggle these things into place but then it'll evaporate and doesn't contain any substances harmful to rubber. Thanks for watching!
@@SteeleRubberProducts We would use clear silcone spray but in a collision shop when painting was a issue glass cleaner worked and evaporated when done.
So long as it's a good automotive glass cleaner, it'll work just fine. Even Windex (and similar products) contain ingredients that degrade rubber.
Got Celica 1981 coupe st you no place can got the new back window and wetherstrey to le me know please tray buy it can got it any whered
Hello Angel- Im sorry but we don't offer any parts for your Celica at this time. We're just now getting into the import market. Please check back periodically to see if we've added parts for your car! Thanks for watching!
@@SteeleRubberProducts ok you know any place can got it
How to open 2000Toyota Land Cruiser window
Hello- I'm sorry but we only make parts for American classics and don't have any experience with Toyota windows. An internet search may help you with this. Thanks for watching!
3 people have a glue glass
A tire took mine out very easily! i highly recommend it... Don't do that..
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Seal ripped, maybe I should have greased the string.
You don’t use glazing.
Hey Don, for this particular vehicle they weren't planning on driving it out in the weather (trailer queen) so we didn't use it. For all the details about how to use glazing and bedding compound check out this video and let us know what you think!: th-cam.com/video/TGimNuT6XyI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching!
They invented suction cups, lol... It's a one guy job
Too bad their website has no gasket or windshields for a 66 chev bel air. Very weird.
Hey there! We responded to your comment on our other windshield gasket video, but wanted to post the same response here, too.
I'm sorry you're having a frustrating time trying to find parts for your vehicle. The windshield for the '66 Chevrolet Bel Air models was glued in, not installed with a gasket. I'm not quite sure what the "sticky urethane roll gasket" is that you mentioned kept coming up in your search results. Urethane Adhesive is applied with a caulking gun and used to glue in windshields while Butyl Tape (comes in a roll) is a very sticky, pressure-sensitive adhesive that is also used to glue in windshields. If either of those are what you've been seeing, it's because the windshield for your vehicle is a glue-in type.
If you would like to email us some photos of your windshield, that would greatly help us in recommending which parts will work for your vehicle. You can email us photos to contact@steelerubber.com and one of our customer service representatives will be in communication with you. Thank you for watching, and we look forward to speaking with you!
@@SteeleRubberProducts oh man seriously? My belair is still at the place where I bought it so I assumed it was rope in style gasket. If it’s glued in that is so much better. Thanks guys. Any ideas where I could find a windshield for this car? Thanks
No problem!! Unfortunately, we don't have any recommendations for where to get the glass.