I might have misunderstood the Turn Meter Immunity ability. I assumed that only applies when TIE Advanced was on the BF, so that does affect a few things like Bistan and Outrider's 2nd ability. Sorry if I caused confusion, it's yet to be seen, but I think I got it wrong. :(
Yes, I think all the u wings will stay with home 1 since they are TM generators. I think raven should stay with home 1 too since it doesn't play well with MF or outsider. The x wings should probably stay with home 1 too. That leaves y wing, MF, outsider and Phoenix for profundity. But I guess we'll see when we actually play it.
@@paulglasser8519 What about Biggs with Profund, with OR and MILF, in starting line up? OR does Target Lock special triggering Biggs taunt that BH can’t get around. Then call Wing in after Phantom?
The TM Manipulation Immunity is pretty much same as JMK does. None gets or looses TM at all. Which will be its biggest advantage over Executor as a lot of Executor counters works because of TM gain in battle. FO, Male even Rebels can beat Exec because they can gain and manipulate TM. Hell even executor uses TM gain with HT for him to taunt faster.
There is no turn meter manipulation on either side.. That is not limited to just the Tie Advanced paragraph.. This is similar to JMK's squad.. so neither side get any sort of turn meter..
To be fair, H1 and Profundity would never fight each other anyway in Star Wars, so that's a non-starter. I mean, CG can't make 1 ability that accounts for all situations, so I think they did very good. These ships (ProFun and Exec) are meant to fight each other anyway.
I love the breakdown! Thanks for putting this together. I did want to point out that Han’s falcon doesn’t assist on ally assists through its own kit. It assists when a rebel ally uses an ability during their turn. I don’t think that includes the capital ship. So if you use that double assist on Outrider, HMF won’t assist on its own accord.
I think it will assist on the OR basic, otherwise you’ll never hit 9 instances of damage. Profundity calls OR but OR basics trigger the 50% assist chance from MILF.
Hey good catch! I’m not sure if it can assist or not now…. Gotta test it. I wonder though because RClaw sees it as a Rebel ally for health bonus, and Outrider does for Download, etc. you’re probably right about not assisting, but I’ll be testing soon to find out. :)
@@RobDex99 if it’s profundity’s turn, HMF won’t assist on OR basic. You could instead call HMF to double assist with profundity: if HMF basic calls OR to assist both times, that’s 8 and then ywing can assist on any of those assists to make it 9+
@@varmint5434 MILF unique says 50% change to assist when rebel ally uses basic. Calling OR to hit 6 times means OR is using an ability. Same as when Home One calls the mass assist and Milf assists one of those assisters and hits twice. It will be fun to see.
The test is this: Profundity, OR, and MILF should all go before Executor, and Hounds Tooth will not get bonus TM, so no taunt and HT will go last, so, Can you kill Razor Crest OR HT by Profundity calling OR for the 6 hits, which should call MILF at least once, calling someone else, then OR goes, then MILF goes, and can all that kill RC or HT before a single enemy turn. If yes, then you’ll always start with the Profundity 1st special and call OR and kill either of those two ships. If not, then you do Profundity second special and put mark on Xanadu Blood and kill him before Executor goes. Either way you win. You may not even need too much reinforcement and have to gear Phoenix. If HT is dead off the first salvo it’s a cake walk.
I really like how you keep finding ways of pairing Claw with MILF. I have been telling people that although the Claw kit calls out no synergy with MILF, I still get great results using them together (and my Claw is only 5 star).
But Claw loses a massive portion of its kit going away from home one.. as well loses a bunch of viability getting paired with Dash and Han cause they are scoundrels.. plus your losing a Viable Home one Fleet by pulling both away
@@wolfie5583 I understand there are negatives. But it does work well under the Home One currently. As for Home One, we have to wait and see it's viability moving forward after the Profundity comes into the game officially. And I am sure @Gerbil will probably be covering that as well. Especially if they do add say, the A-Wing, or the B-Wing, or maybe even.... Red 5??
@@solostrate1791 yea the Home one might fall off a bit regardless. But 2/3 first on the field being Han and Dash don’t get any bonuses from Claw except from the assist. And now your pulling away from Home one, Claw loses a big part of its kit I can’t see it being any good Now Red Five a-z wings whatever they wanna bring to top these fleets off would be great and I’m game for 😁
I'm liking this lineup too, but I don't see Phantom doing much here. It could, testing will tell. I agree largely about HMF as a reinforcement, but that will also depend on opening options and speeds for ProFun.
@@thegerbil23 I think people are underestimating how tanky phantom can be with the bonuses ghost and it share. On top of triggering Profundity heals while phantom is taunting with foresight, ghost is reducing enemy potency and inflicting unresistable speed down when they fail to land a debuff.
@@thegerbil23 Would be amazing if you can give some insight into how the AI plays it on defence, and whether it differs from the offensive lineup in any way.
Ravens claw I’m not a big fan of here. Pulling both Han and Ravens Claw means you now no longer have a viable Home One fleet. But Ravens claws kit mostly goes with Home One and excludes Scoundrel Rebel Allys which Outrider and Han both are. So your really not getting the full Ravens claw And the only one able to get foresight is the Y wing for example in the first part of the battle at least
Yeah, it's not worth it to completely cannibalize both fleets. Keeping one for possible clean up is still desirable. It'll be interesting to see how little the Profundity can "get away with" and still do all the things we need to.
The ultimate is awesome - and we've seen (the Empire) fall for it twice on camera- so it's thematic as well. I legit laughed out loud (in a good way) when I saw it.
Ghost is the best alternative to HMF for Profundity. This video was May before the release. I have 2 much more recent vids that talk a lot about strategy and lineups. Here is the “best lineup” guide: th-cam.com/video/R1c4_rjWUA4/w-d-xo.html. And here is one that I came later when I decided to return HMF to H1: th-cam.com/video/vnOLhmcJQjo/w-d-xo.html
I might have misunderstood the Turn Meter Immunity ability. I assumed that only applies when TIE Advanced was on the BF, so that does affect a few things like Bistan and Outrider's 2nd ability. Sorry if I caused confusion, it's yet to be seen, but I think I got it wrong. :(
Yes, I think all the u wings will stay with home 1 since they are TM generators. I think raven should stay with home 1 too since it doesn't play well with MF or outsider. The x wings should probably stay with home 1 too. That leaves y wing, MF, outsider and Phoenix for profundity. But I guess we'll see when we actually play it.
@@paulglasser8519 What about Biggs with Profund, with OR and MILF, in starting line up? OR does Target Lock special triggering Biggs taunt that BH can’t get around. Then call Wing in after Phantom?
Yeah, the U-Wings won't have their full usefulness unless they stay with Home One.
The TM Manipulation Immunity is pretty much same as JMK does. None gets or looses TM at all. Which will be its biggest advantage over Executor as a lot of Executor counters works because of TM gain in battle. FO, Male even Rebels can beat Exec because they can gain and manipulate TM. Hell even executor uses TM gain with HT for him to taunt faster.
Oooooh ships
Fantastic vid. Won’t unlock for a couple of months but so helpful still - really appreciate the level of detail!
Agreed we have the plans chase animation makes perfect sense, and I think it looks great.
You have a typo in the survive and thrive graphic. Look at the Raven's Claw line.
There is no turn meter manipulation on either side.. That is not limited to just the Tie Advanced paragraph.. This is similar to JMK's squad.. so neither side get any sort of turn meter..
Well, good thing is this video will be out of date tomorrow. Lol then I can make a new one. :)
Good luck for the unlock. I'm aiming for next month so will let others figure out the best team to aim for!
I don't mind the ult ONLY if you're facing an Executor. Makes no sense for Home One to chase it. That's the issue for me
To be fair, H1 and Profundity would never fight each other anyway in Star Wars, so that's a non-starter. I mean, CG can't make 1 ability that accounts for all situations, so I think they did very good. These ships (ProFun and Exec) are meant to fight each other anyway.
Right when I recently maxed my executor, funny.
I love the breakdown! Thanks for putting this together.
I did want to point out that Han’s falcon doesn’t assist on ally assists through its own kit. It assists when a rebel ally uses an ability during their turn. I don’t think that includes the capital ship. So if you use that double assist on Outrider, HMF won’t assist on its own accord.
I think it will assist on the OR basic, otherwise you’ll never hit 9 instances of damage. Profundity calls OR but OR basics trigger the 50% assist chance from MILF.
Hey good catch! I’m not sure if it can assist or not now…. Gotta test it. I wonder though because RClaw sees it as a Rebel ally for health bonus, and Outrider does for Download, etc. you’re probably right about not assisting, but I’ll be testing soon to find out. :)
@@thegerbil23 can’t wait to see the testing! I love my rebel fleet, but will be a few months out from the profundity I think.
@@RobDex99 if it’s profundity’s turn, HMF won’t assist on OR basic.
You could instead call HMF to double assist with profundity: if HMF basic calls OR to assist both times, that’s 8 and then ywing can assist on any of those assists to make it 9+
@@varmint5434 MILF unique says 50% change to assist when rebel ally uses basic. Calling OR to hit 6 times means OR is using an ability. Same as when Home One calls the mass assist and Milf assists one of those assisters and hits twice. It will be fun to see.
The test is this: Profundity, OR, and MILF should all go before Executor, and Hounds Tooth will not get bonus TM, so no taunt and HT will go last, so, Can you kill Razor Crest OR HT by Profundity calling OR for the 6 hits, which should call MILF at least once, calling someone else, then OR goes, then MILF goes, and can all that kill RC or HT before a single enemy turn. If yes, then you’ll always start with the Profundity 1st special and call OR and kill either of those two ships. If not, then you do Profundity second special and put mark on Xanadu Blood and kill him before Executor goes. Either way you win. You may not even need too much reinforcement and have to gear Phoenix. If HT is dead off the first salvo it’s a cake walk.
I think main line up will be OR, MILF and Wing or Biggs. You may not need more than one reinforcement, saving ships for HO.
We need a tank in each fleet and Profundity specifically synergizes with Y-Wing.
Biggs is going with home one, they need a tank.
I really like how you keep finding ways of pairing Claw with MILF. I have been telling people that although the Claw kit calls out no synergy with MILF, I still get great results using them together (and my Claw is only 5 star).
But Claw loses a massive portion of its kit going away from home one.. as well loses a bunch of viability getting paired with Dash and Han cause they are scoundrels..
plus your losing a Viable Home one Fleet by pulling both away
@@wolfie5583 I understand there are negatives. But it does work well under the Home One currently. As for Home One, we have to wait and see it's viability moving forward after the Profundity comes into the game officially. And I am sure @Gerbil will probably be covering that as well. Especially if they do add say, the A-Wing, or the B-Wing, or maybe even.... Red 5??
@@solostrate1791 yea the Home one might fall off a bit regardless.
But 2/3 first on the field being Han and Dash don’t get any bonuses from Claw except from the assist.
And now your pulling away from Home one, Claw loses a big part of its kit I can’t see it being any good
Now Red Five a-z wings whatever they wanna bring to top these fleets off would be great and I’m game for 😁
@@wolfie5583 yeah. That's why @Gerbil has MILF as the first Reinforcement. If I understood his video correctly.
I'm thinking the starting lineup will be Ywing, Ghost, and Outrider. First reinforcement is Phantom, second is HMF.
I'm liking this lineup too, but I don't see Phantom doing much here. It could, testing will tell. I agree largely about HMF as a reinforcement, but that will also depend on opening options and speeds for ProFun.
@@thegerbil23 I think people are underestimating how tanky phantom can be with the bonuses ghost and it share. On top of triggering Profundity heals while phantom is taunting with foresight, ghost is reducing enemy potency and inflicting unresistable speed down when they fail to land a debuff.
@@applecorc You could be 100% right, time will tell.
Hey Gerbil, its been a couple of weeks. Do you have an update on this Profundity guide? I need to start planning my fleet options.
Ask and ye shall receive. I'm working on a strategy guide right now, hoping to have it online in a few hours.
@@thegerbil23 Would be amazing if you can give some insight into how the AI plays it on defence, and whether it differs from the offensive lineup in any way.
Ravens claw I’m not a big fan of here. Pulling both Han and Ravens Claw means you now no longer have a viable Home One fleet.
But Ravens claws kit mostly goes with Home One and excludes Scoundrel Rebel Allys which Outrider and Han both are. So your really not getting the full Ravens claw
And the only one able to get foresight is the Y wing for example in the first part of the battle at least
Yeah, it's not worth it to completely cannibalize both fleets. Keeping one for possible clean up is still desirable. It'll be interesting to see how little the Profundity can "get away with" and still do all the things we need to.
@@savitar402 exactly.. that’s gonna be the biggest thing. How easy is it to beat Exec and with what
Survive and Thrive slide, Raven Claw.. grants foresight when shits ? assist..when shit hits the fan? sounds messy
Opps…. LOL
The ultimate is awesome - and we've seen (the Empire) fall for it twice on camera- so it's thematic as well.
I legit laughed out loud (in a good way) when I saw it.
I dont have MILF can i substatute MILF for ravens claw?
Ghost is the best alternative to HMF for Profundity. This video was May before the release. I have 2 much more recent vids that talk a lot about strategy and lineups. Here is the “best lineup” guide: th-cam.com/video/R1c4_rjWUA4/w-d-xo.html. And here is one that I came later when I decided to return HMF to H1: th-cam.com/video/vnOLhmcJQjo/w-d-xo.html
This game is trash 👎👎💩