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My wife and I really enjoy the videos you and your wife do. We just bought our first class A after two bumper pulls and a 5th wheel. It's an entry level gasser with some pretty basic, analog controls. Seeing the touch screen in your wet bay was pretty inspiring. I'd love to pick your brain to see how I could do something like that in my rig, or see if it's even possible.
It's funny that you get butt sore with the comments on a crappy product plug!!! I'm betting your butt doesn't even get that sore when your ex plugs you're butt !! Loser !!!
If your sewer hose stinks, you aren't cleaning right. I have been using my hose for 4 years now and it doesn't smell at all. After use, clean it with hot and soapy water and then rinse with clear water. Works every time.
@@LivinliteNet1 ….or we could try to be mindful of what drew our audience to view our content in the first place, and be respectful of their time by getting to the point? Just sayin'. Or I guess you can be OK with your solution and put the onus on the viewer to entertain him/herself.
We welcome constructive criticism Rob and take it very seriously, but when you direct a snarky comment to other watchers and not to the content provider, don’t be surprised if you get a similarly snarky response (or no response at all). A lot of work goes into providing free content on youtube, and I think more and more content providers are dropping out because of how bad the trolls have gotten. Please come be part of the conversation, but try to do it in a way that helps everyone watching including the content provider. Unless your point was to frustrate and discourage, if that was the plan then stick with your current attitude, its spot on.
@@LivinliteNet1 That's exactly what I was trying to do - let you know that when you entice a person's curiosity with a claim - In this case an improved answer to a very unpleasant chore - but then jump into a review of a bunch of other garbage - it tends to immediately give your intended audience a bad taste in their mouth...like you don't respect my time or something. If you're only interested in "Gee Whiz" responses.....or if you frankly don't care for the feedback - that's perfectly OK. It's your channel. Bottom line is, you were given constructive criticism. You got side tracked and didn't get to the point fast enough. Sorry if it wasn't the feedback you want/appreciate.
@@ronlawrence5021 thanks Ron, we really appreciate the reply. Did you see the screen pop up in the beginning stating the timecode to jump forward to for the actual unboxing and review? Perhaps we could have placed that better or maybe you missed since it wasnt up long enough? Regardless, I can't tell you how many folks reach out to us as noobs to RV'ing who really appreciate the backstory on the "old product" or in this case the "traditional sewer hose" before they can really understand what the pros/cons of any new product would be. The watchers RVing experience level really comes into play here, and since we can't "add more content" we elect to include more and let folks skip ahead if they are more experience. In this particular video's case we also just got married so our channel has been dark for about 3 months so we also wanted to tell folks what was on the horizon. Again thanks for the more effective feedback and we look forward to talking more in the future and using your suggestions to get better.
You know technology has gone too far when you need to run your poop through a blender and have a computer to operate it just to dump your tanks. Amazing!
I'll never understand why everyone thinks emptying a holding tank is hard, it's easy. Just empty it, geez I honestly believe the more junk you buy the harder it is, toss all that junk.
Nice video with good information. Rough crowd with apparent short attention spans lacking the ability to use the controls built into the UI of TH-cam. "Give me free information about stuffs and do it my way, or else! My opinion matters! Dance, puppet!" Jeeez. This is why I just blog, many people don't appreciate the effort it takes to produce content with proper continuity.
I am also a content creator, and it is hard to please everyone, but after reading all of this chatter you can be darn sure I will try to get right to the point in my future videos. LOL
Oh hell ya! I thought almost at the very beginning of your presentation the reason I came to the site is to see n hear about the latest/greatest future of waste dumping. I agree with everyone, get to the point please! We don't need to know about all the what you're gonna do later... show n tell and we'll be done in no time!!
This isn’t a replacement for a standard sewer hose, why would you need to replace the simple solution with a more complicated one? This is for RVrs who don’t have a dumpstation available.
Yes. We installed it for use while at our base camp in order to pump through a garden hose into our septic tank. (Can also come in handy while mooch docking). We can optionally disconnect the Sanicon connection and dump at dump stations and full hook-up sites utilizing our standard Rhino hose.
Not trying to be a wise guy or anything; but why do i want to go to the expense ($250-$400+) and possible a electrical fail ? why would I go to this vs my old tried & true hose system??? The chemical additive to my black tank pretty much disengrates everything. A quick rinse with the gray water dump & most places have a hose with fresh water to complete the rinse. Given no one waiting behind me I usually flush the black tank with clean water at the dump station for about 10 minutes as well. My hose fits in the bumper and after 3 years has no issues. Am I missing something ?
All good points. For us the idea of saving a full bin of cargo space, pumping uphill and not having to do anything other than twist a hose cap off and insert the handle into the park system was worth the time and expense involved. That said, our standard setup worked great and was a lot cheaper with fewer parts to fail. Time will tell! Thanks for the comments.
@@LivinliteNet1 Appreciate the reply. I knew about the pumping uphill but have not been faced with that but one time. Curred it by pulling out a few leveling blocks and rolled over them. Most dump stations are built to a downhill configuration. As we all know ; human affluent doesn’t flow up hill. I thought you were just trying to ‘grind’ it up before it went down the pipe. When I had a Class A; I use to go thru the same process as above but instead of a bumper to store it, I placed it in a capped PCV pipe attached to the bottom of the rear bumper brackets. The elbow in a zip lock plastic bag stored in the basement storage. Again, thank you.
You make excellent points. For us I'd like one to be able to pump the tanks into a toilet right inside our house as we do not have a sewer opening outside the house. But for that price I just can't justify it.
@Cw Sayre while I see the point of not needing it for "standard" FHU situations there are times this system can be a go to. Another TH-cam video showed it idea for situations where no sewer was available. This individual pumped it up into a tank in the bed of his pickup and then hauled his waste to a dump station. It was a perfert solution for those situations.
@@herb7877 thanks Herb, its such a tough topic because I agree with everyone that the standard solution is a great one and has so many less parts to fail. Its similar to the conversations I used to have with folks about power windows and door locks in cars. "that will just break!" and often it did. Alas the faster, more convenient solution won out though, and now I dont think you can buy much of any base model car without those features. After having the system for another month my feedback would be that the convenience is the primary win here. We park, open the bay door, unscrew a cap and place a handle in sewer and thats it. There is nothing more to do (well open the black tank and hit a switch but we had to do that anyway). Is that convenience worth 350 bucks? Thats not for me to answer as everyone has different opinions on what is worth $$. One positive is that I haven't accidentally banged my head on an extended room slide in 2 months which used to always happen when I was setting up the traditional system going back and forth with all those hoses/extension and bins! I guess thats a positive! Thanks again for your comments/replies. Hope to see you on future videos.
Hey Buddy...quit with all the yak yak yak! You could of done this video in 5 minutes or less. Folks are apt to watch a video if it's short and sweet. Get to the point!
I watched the whole video. I'm not sure what I watched. What is it for what was the point. I still dont know what it is. Why do you need a pump on a sewer hose?
In order to rinse the system couldn't you run fresh water down the toilet? (I don't own an RV or have ever owned one so this may be a stupid question for the experienced folks here)
Yeah you can go to dollar tree and spend 5 to 10 dollars of cleaning stuff and once you empty the tank you can fill it with water and cleaning stuff. Peolle dont think.
This is a viable solution if you are at a full service RV park while dumping your tank at your slot but not an option if you boondock or have to dump at dump a station. no one is going to put up with waiting in line while you fill a 40 gallon tank at a dump station then re-dump to clean your hose. If its a "pay to dump" station then that's an expensive way to clean the tank, pump and hose.
@@MYCHANNELWITHMYSTUFF #2 if I pay to dumb I take as long as I need and if you pay to dump they have water and I'm paying for it and I'm doing my job. No will make hurry I dont want shit smell while I'm driving down the road.
Quite possibly. There are many benefits which we did our best to outline but there is no denying there are more parts and parts can fail. So far we are really happy with the spaced saved eliminating a hose bin and the ease of which we now setup. Grab handle, unscrew cap, place in campground system, walk away! Hopefully all that time saving wont be lost in me spending hours in the future fixing something!!
Soon! Trying to work out the bugs and get the tank fill to work with it as well :) almost done but I need some warmer weather. Leaving Connecticut in 2 weeks for the south!!!! More to come.
@@GovG33k Its not all that complicated and its a bit messy as we are still working out some bugs but message us and we'll send you what we have so far. Be warned you might be enlisted to help write better code lol!
Really, that product doesn't eliminate the need to dump the black tank. I switched to a composting toilet. I will never go back to using my black tank for solids. Liquids are collected and can be taken in a jug and empied into any drain or toilet. I was expecting a composting upgrade.
After having it now for 2-3 months the reason for this really comes down to convenience. We can setup the sewer in less than 15 seconds now. We open the door, grab the hose, unscrew the cap, plug it into the sewer and walk away. Is that worth 500+ bucks? Thats not for us to decide but so far we are really happy with the solution. As I mentioned on other posts though, a component failure could really change our tune. Time will tell and we'll do some future videos once we have a few more months of wear/tear on the system and components.
@@LivinliteNet1 If it's about convenience one could look into a composting toilet. Not suggesting you should do convert to one. Just saying there are RV'ers out there with YT channels who have done videos of them converting AND given updates after using them for months and even after a year. One thing I've noticed NOT ONE has reported to ever wishing to go back to using a black tank. One channel "Gone with the Winns" put one in their Class A and when they sold that and bought a New Class A they put their old toilet back into their old RV and moved their composing toilet into their brand new Class A RV. Something to think about, LivinLite. Again people can do as they please, just adding to the conversation. Best wishes and happy new year, to all.
@@sailingsolar Hey thanks for the reply! We love Nikki and Jason and they are on an amazing adventure (now on a boat!). For us (admittedly we are not knowledgeable on the topic) the front "liquid cartridge" which collects all the liquids and must be dumped daily was a show stopper for us. As i understand it, you need to remove that cartridge daily, walk it through your rig and go dump it outside. I think this would be excellent for folks doing extended BLM stays without hookups but for us it wasn't a good fit. Here is the link to the video i think your talking about. Great blog for everyone else interested in checking it out! th-cam.com/video/_E2xOoNov9s/w-d-xo.html
@@LivinliteNet1 I do have more I could say but I'll leave it as it is. No one solution works for everyone (apparently). Thank you for your time replying. Wishing you two the very best. Much respect and happy new year guys. For your efforts I am subscribing and will see what is to see !!
Gross and stinky cause you're not keeping them clean enough!!!! You have a good following, keep growing your channel with less mumbo jumbo. See how you can keep your documentary upbeat, more details, less nonchalant discussion.
Didn't last until the 6:30 mark, and not sure why I'd want some small electric gizmo when my 3" hose drains the tanks in about 1 1/2 min. Seems a waste of money. You still have a sewer hose, but now with a little electric motor and a cord.
Interesting. Our Roadtrek had a macerator system from the factory. After having it operate sporadically (mostly not operating) I easily converted it to a regularl gravity dump. I think it was about $30 in parts from Home Depot. Gravity has never let me down and no more macerator problems. KISS method! Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention I purchased the Flo Jet macerator system for my 40 foot Class A. I have used it just a few times. It pumps things for a while until the motor gets too warm and the thermal switch inside the motor stops it until it cools down which takes some time. All the while you are sitting there with your hose in your hand (pun intended) waiting for it to start back up. Having 100 gallon holding tanks (each) means alot of hose holding. LOL! Needless to say it was kind of a PITA. One note is that in 15 years of full timing, I never specifically NEEDED a macerator. The standard gravity dump empties the holding tanks fast. The macerator sits there pumping away (until it overheats of course). Just food for thought.
The pump you had was too small and poorly designed and poorly made. This guy said it emptied in about 90 seconds so this will not heat up or cut out. I think the hose size was smaller than the standard drain hose but bigger than a garden hose so drains faster than a garden hose yet not as bulky as the gravity drain. I liked it and though it was a good design but don't know if I could afford it.
I've had the same problems as you and went thru several different brands of 12v mascerators. Do you know of any 120v mascerators? They used to make them but I can't find any nor can my local RV parts shop.
For the cost and installation, space requirements, don't see any benefits. I see you have black tank hose connected all the time near fresh water hose. Truly think this a waste of time and money. Did I miss something?
Boring! Could take it no longer! Do these guys really think they are entertaining? get a microphone that allows the audience you are trying to attract to understand you. Quit all the 'ahs' and stop wagging your head. Figure out what you want to say, tell your audience what you are going to tell them, say it, tell them what you said and shut up. Simple and precise works so much better
Just purchased the 25 foot hose cover but am having trouble getting the expandable hose through it. Any hints of how to install this cover and do you use all 25 feet?
You are still handling a sewer hose if you are dumping a black holding tank. I see no advantage to this $350++ system vs my $200 Flo-Jet or a $25 buck slinky.. My Flo-Jet will use a cheap 5/8' or as I'm using, a good 3/4" hose and up to 50 feet though it will pump at least 100 feet. Maybe if you have a mid six figure up motor home and the manufacturer built it in - OK,. As an add on to any towed RV - wont work.
Hey JD, we'll probably do another video soon showing the day to day use of this. Its much easier than the flow jet or traditional style hose, so far we are really happy. Grab by handle, unscrew cap, pop in campground sewer connection, shut door, walk away. No bins, no unions, no ladders (depending on your preference) and done.. We want to wait a few more months just to be 100% sure there aren't any gotchas but so far we are really happy.
I too have looked at a macerator and ended up with the Sewer Solution. Have used this for over 6 years and has never let me down. Slow, yes, but when you have to pump 70 feet and a little up hill and it gets the job done, I'm alright with that! Do I use it all the time, NO!, but when I need it, it works! Also cleans out the hose with fresh water to boot and no mess involved. No electric, only one basic moving part, the lever to control the stream of water and no issues!
Sooooo.... Get rid of your black tank hose and replace it with a much more expensive, complicated system and hose. And if that system breaks on the road, you have thrown away your black tank hose and now your ankle deep in $#!+. Cool.
I agree with you. We are buying an RV in cpl months so I been reading and watching videos here on yt Im not buying expensive systems to choppa uppa dee poopa.😊...I have a feeling this thing is several hundred$$$...And yet another motor or system to fail....
I love my thetford macerator. I have the one you click onto the fitting. I simply start with some grey, then flush the black, and finish with grey. Works every time. I'd love to have a permanent install system, which I'll do when I buy our full time class A in 4 years.
I think I'll just stick with my GOOD OLD Drain Hose! Works for me and I rinse it out after every use. Let it dry out and there isn't that much "STINKY" left. Of course I don't go and stick my nose into the hose!
Certainly a good solution! We might have taken our sewer hose out of the rv for now but we didnt throw it away just yet! Well keep folks posted on the blog!
What’s so hard about dumping and flushing the black tank? That Rube Goldberg contraption looks unnecessarily complicated which means prone to problems. Glad I have an 07 Phaeton without fussy unnecessary electronics, DEF, unreliable touchscreens. I never turn my back on anything dealing with filling/dumping tanks. What is the purpose of this thing? To mince your poop while you walk away to have a cocktail while you’re trusting this thing not to clog/leak while you’re watching your iPhone? I never turn my back on liquids. I can spare 15-20 min watching and overseeing the process. The only time I’ve had problems was when I turn my back on some device that bears watching.
Honestly, when I first saw the title to this video, I thought, great, something has come out now to do away with the sewer hose...nope, it's just a newer version, still got the sewer hose, only now, it cost wayyyyy more than the one I just threw out...no thanks.
They haven't yet figured out how to simply make the waste "disappear" so yes there is an exit system of some sort in any system (yes even with composting you'll be hauling out trash bags full of peet moss). I do have my hopes up for the Star Trek transporter system that will magically transport matter from one location to another some day though. "beam it out scotty!" Sadly our understanding of physics wont allow this just yet!
@@LivinliteNet1 Actually, "they" figured that out way back in the 1950s or thereabouts. There was a system for motorhomes that emptied the tanks through a jet into the exhasust header pipe, where it was vaporized, sterilized, and spewed out the tailpipe while driving down the road. Like many good ideas, it disdappeared.
Do you have information/video of your computer control in your wet bay, along with the automatic dump valves your using. Do you build and sell the system? thanks
This is not really necessary with the black flush features on newer rigs. Simplify life and get a quality 3” 15’ hose, with a clear elbow, and maybe a extra 15’ hose to extend or replace. Less than $100. ( including second hose.)
My wife and I have been camping for 40 years when we are at a camp site with full hook up we leave everything open and have NO problem. My camper came with a back flush for the black tank and I saved lots of money and time on mot having this think, sorry not for me.
my sewer hose is over 5 years old and just smells like some old water, if that makes sense. not horrible. not great. maybe you're not rinsing it enough.
Yes i would buy this because it is important to me to chop up my poop before it goes down the sewer. Noooo... But you misleading title got me to waist part of my life to watch.
I gave up - couldn't stand the swimming video, or the problem with lips a second behind the audio - definitely a low budget production for a low budget product.
At the risk of coming off as the Newbie I am, can someone explain the sequence of dumping both the gray and black water when using a macerator? I have not owned an RV for 20 years and am not familiar with dumping with a macerator. Specifically, assuming all valves are closed (black, gray and main valve) when I dump with a macerator, do I remove the fitting for use with a water hose and put the macerator hose in the dump at the RV park, open the black valve using the macerator hose and macerator, dump the gray water using the macerator pump and hose then close then close the black valve after flushing with water? Do I use the traditional sewer hose at all if I leave the macerator hose hooked up to dump gray water?
Yep way to much talk, don't understand the concept , just more to go wrong in the system and much more unneeded expense , and you still have a dirty hose to deal with . wow! someone was up all night thinking of a way to come up with something that is useless , and sell it to RVer that think they need another gadget. If you spend your money on this you have way to much money . its also a way for the RV repair specialist to make more money when it takes a dump. As I can see the other comments I am not alone in my thoughts. LOL
Wow... All these folks telling you to hurry the hell up : / I don't get it... Anyway, I thought your presentation was spot on and detail-oriented. Thanks for the information! I've been considering a macerator but know little about them. Your video really helped us a lot! Also, I'm interested if you will provide (or have already provided) info on your automated valve system. I've been thinking this would be quite a nice feature. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
I have a porcelain toilet with inbuild pump/mixer and empty my toilet tank with a 35 mm hose. Then the grey water tank trough the same hose. The toilet itself costed almost the same as this pump system.... ( those toilets are used in boats or in homes after making a second toilet room where it was original not intended .....with smaller pipes needed.... )
Ok maybe I missed something but what is the main purpose of this product? Does it basically “shred” everything coming out of your black tank and do it under pressure so it empties in 90 seconds? And why would you want or need this?
Apparently, this vid was not made for newbies...like me. 1. What the hell is a macerator? Is it a blender/grinder of sorts for used toilet paper & poop? If so, that maybe should have been explained at the beginning. 2. Years ago, I had a very compact porta-potty that I used sometimes when camping. There are packets of eco-friendly chemicals that can be placed in the bottom of such toilets; those chemicals break down the waste in a relatively short time. Instead of the macerator, why not just flush one of those packets down the toilet once in awhile, or cut it open & pour the contents down? They also would deodorize the tank. That seems a lot simpler & much less costly than everything you just went through, eh? Happy Trails
So , basically, you spent a ton of money (oh, yeah it was given to you) to go from a 3" hose to a whole lot of 1 1/2" hose still coiled all over the ground that you're going to have to lift to drain before storing it. What am I missing?
Wow our hoses really don't stink much as we clean them out after dumping. We dump the black tank then the rear grey tank then the tub bathroom sink tank. Cleans it out great.
if you have long hair and use your shower inside the coach to wash your hair it will eventually clod the mascerater and you will have to take apart to take hair out. unless you have a wonderful niece with a handyman significant other to do the clean out for $20 you could pay a lot for having Camping World or another service unclog the system.
I am new to RVing, but my friend Bob taught me to first dump the black water tank, then dump the grey water tank to clean out the sewer hose, then I rinse out the sewer hose with fresh water and I have not had a stink problem. I do not put caps on my sewage hose (I have them) I couple the ends together and rinse off and shake the loop before storing in a plastic box.
We would never recommend a product just because we got it for free. Lets be honest a video where we didn’t recommend or where something went wrong would get a lot more views! This is our honest opinion of the unit and so far its been a much easier to use solution that is faster (setup and breaking camp), eliminated all need for dealing with hose bayonet fittings and is working great. There is no denying the potential long term maintenance issues of a more complex system but I think its fair to ask why these are being installed on every high end coach if they don’t work. Its because once you use them, you definitely see the benefits but again, we never said the time tested hose was bad! Actually we said the opposite! Thanks for watching!
Nice caps on your stinky slinky. Where can we buy those? (I don't want to mess with that slimed hose on the macerator. It won't be as clean as a stinky slinky after a "rinsing" with the soapy gray water.)
Skip to Unboxing ----->> 6:30 or Installation ------>> 8:58 - Thetford has confirmed the unit retails for $299-350. If you are interested in a unit message us on facebook at livinlite.net/facebook for details on where to buy or support your local dealer!.
#1 What's with the swimming video - makes me sea sick just watching it. #2 just dump the box out and say it comes complete, then get on with it.
My wife and I really enjoy the videos you and your wife do. We just bought our first class A after two bumper pulls and a 5th wheel. It's an entry level gasser with some pretty basic, analog controls. Seeing the touch screen in your wet bay was pretty inspiring. I'd love to pick your brain to see how I could do something like that in my rig, or see if it's even possible.
It's funny that you get butt sore with the comments on a crappy product plug!!! I'm betting your butt doesn't even get that sore when your ex plugs you're butt !! Loser !!!
After watching this video for a useless product I am making it my lifes work to make sure you don't make a dime selling this snake oil !!
If your sewer hose stinks, you aren't cleaning right. I have been using my hose for 4 years now and it doesn't smell at all. After use, clean it with hot and soapy water and then rinse with clear water. Works every time.
Anyone else come here to learn about the "latest and greatest" sewer hose solution and just got bored with all the flim flam leading up to it?
TH-cam has a solution for this! Its called the skip or fast forward button! I use it all the time, works great.
@@LivinliteNet1
….or we could try to be mindful of what drew our audience to view our content in the first place, and be respectful of their time by getting to the point? Just sayin'. Or I guess you can be OK with your solution and put the onus on the viewer to entertain him/herself.
We welcome constructive criticism Rob and take it very seriously, but when you direct a snarky comment to other watchers and not to the content provider, don’t be surprised if you get a similarly snarky response (or no response at all). A lot of work goes into providing free content on youtube, and I think more and more content providers are dropping out because of how bad the trolls have gotten. Please come be part of the conversation, but try to do it in a way that helps everyone watching including the content provider. Unless your point was to frustrate and discourage, if that was the plan then stick with your current attitude, its spot on.
@@LivinliteNet1
That's exactly what I was trying to do - let you know that when you entice a person's curiosity with a claim - In this case an improved answer to a very unpleasant chore - but then jump into a review of a bunch of other garbage - it tends to immediately give your intended audience a bad taste in their mouth...like you don't respect my time or something.
If you're only interested in "Gee Whiz" responses.....or if you frankly don't care for the feedback - that's perfectly OK. It's your channel. Bottom line is, you were given constructive criticism. You got side tracked and didn't get to the point fast enough. Sorry if it wasn't the feedback you want/appreciate.
@@ronlawrence5021 thanks Ron, we really appreciate the reply. Did you see the screen pop up in the beginning stating the timecode to jump forward to for the actual unboxing and review? Perhaps we could have placed that better or maybe you missed since it wasnt up long enough? Regardless, I can't tell you how many folks reach out to us as noobs to RV'ing who really appreciate the backstory on the "old product" or in this case the "traditional sewer hose" before they can really understand what the pros/cons of any new product would be. The watchers RVing experience level really comes into play here, and since we can't "add more content" we elect to include more and let folks skip ahead if they are more experience. In this particular video's case we also just got married so our channel has been dark for about 3 months so we also wanted to tell folks what was on the horizon. Again thanks for the more effective feedback and we look forward to talking more in the future and using your suggestions to get better.
You know technology has gone too far when you need to run your poop through a blender and have a computer to operate it just to dump your tanks. Amazing!
Amen brother!
I'll never understand why everyone thinks emptying a holding tank is hard, it's easy. Just empty it, geez I honestly believe the more junk you buy the harder it is, toss all that junk.
Thank you !!!!
some people have semi permanent campsites that need a macerator due to grade
I completely agree with you
I agree, it so easy, been doing it for years
@@genogeno1234 that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard
So you’re still hooking a hose to it. How exactly are you eliminating a sewer hose?
you're not eliminating a sewer hose. the title says Throw Away YOUR Sewer Hose and use Thetford's sewer hose. LOL
@@MYCHANNELWITHMYSTUFF Technically, this DOES reduce the volume of your sewer hose though...
six minutes 30 seconds before the product was revealed.
So instead of a standard, widely-available sewer hose, now you have a smaller, proprietary hose that uses battery to dump..
After 5 minutes I got tired and ditched this video.
OMG! Get to the point! 10:35 in and still have no clue if it is worthwhile or not. Can't finish watching - toooooo loooooooong.
To keep you audience limit your dialog
Nice video with good information. Rough crowd with apparent short attention spans lacking the ability to use the controls built into the UI of TH-cam. "Give me free information about stuffs and do it my way, or else! My opinion matters! Dance, puppet!" Jeeez. This is why I just blog, many people don't appreciate the effort it takes to produce content with proper continuity.
You know the video was harsh!!
I am also a content creator, and it is hard to please everyone, but after reading all of this chatter you can be darn sure I will try to get right to the point in my future videos. LOL
Oh hell ya! I thought almost at the very beginning of your presentation the reason I came to the site is to see n hear about the latest/greatest future of waste dumping. I agree with everyone, get to the point please! We don't need to know about all the what you're gonna do later... show n tell and we'll be done in no time!!
Yeah, could have been done in about a 5 minute video.
Already forgot why I looked at this video. More than halfway through and you still have not told us shit about shit!
This isn’t a replacement for a standard sewer hose, why would you need to replace the simple solution with a more complicated one? This is for RVrs who don’t have a dumpstation available.
Yes. We installed it for use while at our base camp in order to pump through a garden hose into our septic tank. (Can also come in handy while mooch docking). We can optionally disconnect the Sanicon connection and dump at dump stations and full hook-up sites utilizing our standard Rhino hose.
You’re killing me dude! Just get to it. Watched about 1/3 of this and left.
Change the speed setting to 1.5 works great and enjoy.
Copisetic 1 I was falling asleep 😴 and decided to look at comments instead 😂
@@rogerlinscott3224 thanks
Not trying to be a wise guy or anything; but why do i want to go to the expense ($250-$400+) and possible a electrical fail ? why would I go to this vs my old tried & true hose system??? The chemical additive to my black tank pretty much disengrates everything. A quick rinse with the gray water dump & most places have a hose with fresh water to complete the rinse. Given no one waiting behind me I usually flush the black tank with clean water at the dump station for about 10 minutes as well. My hose fits in the bumper and after 3 years has no issues. Am I missing something ?
All good points. For us the idea of saving a full bin of cargo space, pumping uphill and not having to do anything other than twist a hose cap off and insert the handle into the park system was worth the time and expense involved. That said, our standard setup worked great and was a lot cheaper with fewer parts to fail. Time will tell! Thanks for the comments.
@@LivinliteNet1 Appreciate the reply. I knew about the pumping uphill but have not been faced with that but one time. Curred it by pulling out a few leveling blocks and rolled over them. Most dump stations are built to a downhill configuration. As we all know ; human affluent doesn’t flow up hill. I thought you were just trying to ‘grind’ it up before it went down the pipe. When I had a Class A; I use to go thru the same process as above but instead of a bumper to store it, I placed it in a capped PCV pipe attached to the bottom of the rear bumper brackets. The elbow in a zip lock plastic bag stored in the basement storage. Again, thank you.
You make excellent points. For us I'd like one to be able to pump the tanks into a toilet right inside our house as we do not have a sewer opening outside the house. But for that price I just can't justify it.
@Cw Sayre while I see the point of not needing it for "standard" FHU situations there are times this system can be a go to.
Another TH-cam video showed it idea for situations where no sewer was available. This individual pumped it up into a tank in the bed of his pickup and then hauled his waste to a dump station.
It was a perfert solution for those situations.
@@herb7877 thanks Herb, its such a tough topic because I agree with everyone that the standard solution is a great one and has so many less parts to fail. Its similar to the conversations I used to have with folks about power windows and door locks in cars. "that will just break!" and often it did. Alas the faster, more convenient solution won out though, and now I dont think you can buy much of any base model car without those features. After having the system for another month my feedback would be that the convenience is the primary win here. We park, open the bay door, unscrew a cap and place a handle in sewer and thats it. There is nothing more to do (well open the black tank and hit a switch but we had to do that anyway). Is that convenience worth 350 bucks? Thats not for me to answer as everyone has different opinions on what is worth $$. One positive is that I haven't accidentally banged my head on an extended room slide in 2 months which used to always happen when I was setting up the traditional system going back and forth with all those hoses/extension and bins! I guess thats a positive! Thanks again for your comments/replies. Hope to see you on future videos.
Curious on my Thor Challenger 37FH I have mid and rear tanks to empty. Would I need two of these?
Hey Buddy...quit with all the yak yak yak! You could of done this video in 5 minutes or less. Folks are apt to watch a video if it's short and sweet. Get to the point!
yOU TALK ALOT INSTEAD OF SHOWING THE PRODUCT
I watched the whole video. I'm not sure what I watched. What is it for what was the point. I still dont know what it is. Why do you need a pump on a sewer hose?
In order to rinse the system couldn't you run fresh water down the toilet? (I don't own an RV or have ever owned one so this may be a stupid question for the experienced folks here)
Yeah you can go to dollar tree and spend 5 to 10 dollars of cleaning stuff and once you empty the tank you can fill it with water and cleaning stuff. Peolle dont think.
This is a viable solution if you are at a full service RV park while dumping your tank at your slot but not an option if you boondock or have to dump at dump a station. no one is going to put up with waiting in line while you fill a 40 gallon tank at a dump station then re-dump to clean your hose. If its a "pay to dump" station then that's an expensive way to clean the tank, pump and hose.
@@MYCHANNELWITHMYSTUFF 1 I dont care if people have to wait and only reason I say that is because when I have to wait no one ever gives a shit.
@@MYCHANNELWITHMYSTUFF #2 if I pay to dumb I take as long as I need and if you pay to dump they have water and I'm paying for it and I'm doing my job. No will make hurry I dont want shit smell while I'm driving down the road.
@@MYCHANNELWITHMYSTUFF also if you dump with no water you can find alot of places that will use their hose or spicket
Less talk more show. Thanks. Why do they think they're producing a TV show. This is You Tube. Get to it.
WAYYYYYYYY to much yappin and not enough doing. Do you really think that we care if you like a clear elbow? I never made it past the unboxing
For God's sake, I'm aging here.
Complicating a simple tried and true system with a prone to fail system
Quite possibly. There are many benefits which we did our best to outline but there is no denying there are more parts and parts can fail. So far we are really happy with the spaced saved eliminating a hose bin and the ease of which we now setup. Grab handle, unscrew cap, place in campground system, walk away! Hopefully all that time saving wont be lost in me spending hours in the future fixing something!!
I guess for the cost, I don't see the big advantage ?? Did I miss something ?
Awesome...now to talk about the Raspberry Pi and integration system you have going on there... :)
Soon! Trying to work out the bugs and get the tank fill to work with it as well :) almost done but I need some warmer weather. Leaving Connecticut in 2 weeks for the south!!!! More to come.
Who wants to see the code?! =)
@@GovG33k Its not all that complicated and its a bit messy as we are still working out some bugs but message us and we'll send you what we have so far. Be warned you might be enlisted to help write better code lol!
Unless you store your hose in the bedroom or are wealthy why change.
good job covering up the motor noise with all that music. (sarcasm) We kinda wanted to hear how noisy it was, thx for not doing that
This video could have been 2 or 3 min long if you went straight to the review....
I am not sure what the advantage is. You still have to have a hose dumping into something. Not sure why this would be better.
Really, that product doesn't eliminate the need to dump the black tank. I switched to a composting toilet. I will never go back to using my black tank for solids. Liquids are collected and can be taken in a jug and empied into any drain or toilet. I was expecting a composting upgrade.
After having it now for 2-3 months the reason for this really comes down to convenience. We can setup the sewer in less than 15 seconds now. We open the door, grab the hose, unscrew the cap, plug it into the sewer and walk away. Is that worth 500+ bucks? Thats not for us to decide but so far we are really happy with the solution. As I mentioned on other posts though, a component failure could really change our tune. Time will tell and we'll do some future videos once we have a few more months of wear/tear on the system and components.
@@LivinliteNet1 If it's about convenience one could look into a composting toilet. Not suggesting you should do convert to one. Just saying there are RV'ers out there with YT channels who have done videos of them converting AND given updates after using them for months and even after a year. One thing I've noticed NOT ONE has reported to ever wishing to go back to using a black tank. One channel "Gone with the Winns" put one in their Class A and when they sold that and bought a New Class A they put their old toilet back into their old RV and moved their composing toilet into their brand new Class A RV. Something to think about, LivinLite. Again people can do as they please, just adding to the conversation. Best wishes and happy new year, to all.
@@sailingsolar Hey thanks for the reply! We love Nikki and Jason and they are on an amazing adventure (now on a boat!). For us (admittedly we are not knowledgeable on the topic) the front "liquid cartridge" which collects all the liquids and must be dumped daily was a show stopper for us. As i understand it, you need to remove that cartridge daily, walk it through your rig and go dump it outside. I think this would be excellent for folks doing extended BLM stays without hookups but for us it wasn't a good fit. Here is the link to the video i think your talking about. Great blog for everyone else interested in checking it out! th-cam.com/video/_E2xOoNov9s/w-d-xo.html
@@LivinliteNet1 I do have more I could say but I'll leave it as it is. No one solution works for everyone (apparently). Thank you for your time replying. Wishing you two the very best. Much respect and happy new year guys. For your efforts I am subscribing and will see what is to see !!
way too boring
Gross and stinky cause you're not keeping them clean enough!!!! You have a good following, keep growing your channel with less mumbo jumbo. See how you can keep your documentary upbeat, more details, less nonchalant discussion.
16:21 to tell us that!
Quit jackin your jaws and explain the product
Waaaayyyyy too complicated. Why would you engineer complexity into any system? Dump the black, dump the grey to flush the hose, quit whining!
Didn't last until the 6:30 mark, and not sure why I'd want some small electric gizmo when my 3" hose drains the tanks in about 1 1/2 min. Seems a waste of money. You still have a sewer hose, but now with a little electric motor and a cord.
Interesting. Our Roadtrek had a macerator system from the factory. After having it operate sporadically (mostly not operating) I easily converted it to a regularl gravity dump. I think it was about $30 in parts from Home Depot. Gravity has never let me down and no more macerator problems. KISS method!
Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention I purchased the Flo Jet macerator system for my 40 foot Class A. I have used it just a few times. It pumps things for a while until the motor gets too warm and the thermal switch inside the motor stops it until it cools down which takes some time. All the while you are sitting there with your hose in your hand (pun intended) waiting for it to start back up. Having 100 gallon holding tanks (each) means alot of hose holding. LOL! Needless to say it was kind of a PITA. One note is that in 15 years of full timing, I never specifically NEEDED a macerator. The standard gravity dump empties the holding tanks fast. The macerator sits there pumping away (until it overheats of course). Just food for thought.
The pump you had was too small and poorly designed and poorly made. This guy said it emptied in about 90 seconds so this will not heat up or cut out. I think the hose size was smaller than the standard drain hose but bigger than a garden hose so drains faster than a garden hose yet not as bulky as the gravity drain. I liked it and though it was a good design but don't know if I could afford it.
I've had the same problems as you and went thru several different brands of 12v mascerators. Do you know of any 120v mascerators? They used to make them but I can't find any nor can my local RV parts shop.
For the cost and installation, space requirements, don't see any benefits.
I see you have black tank hose connected all the time near fresh water hose.
Truly think this a waste of time and money.
Did I miss something?
BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You TALK TOO MUCH!! SIX MINUTES before you show the damned product? THUMBS DOWN!
Boring! Could take it no longer! Do these guys really think they are entertaining? get a microphone that allows the audience you are trying to attract to understand you. Quit all the 'ahs' and stop wagging your head. Figure out what you want to say, tell your audience what you are going to tell them, say it, tell them what you said and shut up. Simple and precise works so much better
Just purchased the 25 foot hose cover but am having trouble getting the expandable hose through it. Any hints of how to install this cover and do you use all 25 feet?
I've been using sewer solution for 2 years and very pleased with it.
I'm confused why are we chopping our turds up after they leave the black tank
Shouldn't the turds be chopped up in the black tank so as to not get clogged up, not after it leaves the tank🤔
You are still handling a sewer hose if you are dumping a black holding tank. I see no advantage to this $350++ system vs my $200 Flo-Jet or a $25 buck slinky.. My Flo-Jet will use a cheap 5/8' or as I'm using, a good 3/4" hose and up to 50 feet though it will pump at least 100 feet. Maybe if you have a mid six figure up motor home and the manufacturer built it in - OK,. As an add on to any towed RV - wont work.
Hey JD, we'll probably do another video soon showing the day to day use of this. Its much easier than the flow jet or traditional style hose, so far we are really happy. Grab by handle, unscrew cap, pop in campground sewer connection, shut door, walk away. No bins, no unions, no ladders (depending on your preference) and done.. We want to wait a few more months just to be 100% sure there aren't any gotchas but so far we are really happy.
I too have looked at a macerator and ended up with the Sewer Solution. Have used this for over 6 years and has never let me down. Slow, yes, but when you have to pump 70 feet and a little up hill and it gets the job done, I'm alright with that! Do I use it all the time, NO!, but when I need it, it works! Also cleans out the hose with fresh water to boot and no mess involved. No electric, only one basic moving part, the lever to control the stream of water and no issues!
Sooooo.... Get rid of your black tank hose and replace it with a much more expensive, complicated system and hose. And if that system breaks on the road, you have thrown away your black tank hose and now your ankle deep in $#!+. Cool.
I agree with you. We are buying an RV in cpl months so I been reading and watching videos here on yt Im not buying expensive systems to choppa uppa dee poopa.😊...I have a feeling this thing is several hundred$$$...And yet another motor or system to fail....
If I knew what a macerator (sp?) was or did this video may have been useful. How about starting with the basics?
Think of a mascerator as a garbage disposal.
For everyone looking to spend more money and over complicate dumping a holding tank here’s your answer
Too much yaking and no facts. Get to the point. None of us have all night.
My thoughts also. Damn, shut up and show us the damn pump.
Avoid fresh water contamination. Always wrap black electrical tape at both ends of any water hose dedicated to sewer clean out or pump out activity.
These are a cheap piece of shit. Will clog and blow back. Give you a nice sewage bath.
Get to the point sooner.
why not look into the Never-Dump incinerating Black Tanks? We'd love to see a tutorial on it.
Oh?! Interesting
15 min of bs before actually showing the product
A quick comparison of performance of this unit version the portable one they have would have been helpful. Thanks.
Can't make it thru his BS
I love my thetford macerator. I have the one you click onto the fitting. I simply start with some grey, then flush the black, and finish with grey. Works every time. I'd love to have a permanent install system, which I'll do when I buy our full time class A in 4 years.
Thanks for the feedback. Seems to be a polarizing topic but after trying both systems we are really happy so far!
SAVE your time, there is NO viable information regarding the hose!
Ok, you described how to install this, but you never explained what it does...
Man you whine way to much and all the blah blah blah click bait for sure
Too much talking and not enough action. I couldn’t sit through all that.
I think I'll just stick with my GOOD OLD Drain Hose! Works for me and I rinse it out after every use. Let it dry out and there isn't that much "STINKY" left. Of course I don't go and stick my nose into the hose!
Certainly a good solution! We might have taken our sewer hose out of the rv for now but we didnt throw it away just yet! Well keep folks posted on the blog!
@@LivinliteNet1 I am far more interested in your raspberry Pi setup. I would love to dump my tanks from inside our RV
Sweet set up! Now I will have to investigate to see if that system will work in my 2017 Thor Windsport 29M!! Thanks and Merry Xmas!!!!
Thanks Dino! Hope all is well!
What’s so hard about dumping and flushing the black tank? That Rube Goldberg contraption looks unnecessarily complicated which means prone to problems.
Glad I have an 07 Phaeton without fussy unnecessary electronics, DEF, unreliable touchscreens.
I never turn my back on anything dealing with filling/dumping tanks. What is the purpose of this thing? To mince your poop while you walk away to have a cocktail while you’re trusting this thing not to clog/leak while you’re watching your iPhone? I never turn my back on liquids. I can spare 15-20 min watching and overseeing the process. The only time I’ve had problems was when I turn my back on some device that bears watching.
If I want to walk advertisement I would just continue wants My TV
Honestly, when I first saw the title to this video, I thought, great, something has come out now to do away with the sewer hose...nope, it's just a newer version, still got the sewer hose, only now, it cost wayyyyy more than the one I just threw out...no thanks.
They haven't yet figured out how to simply make the waste "disappear" so yes there is an exit system of some sort in any system (yes even with composting you'll be hauling out trash bags full of peet moss). I do have my hopes up for the Star Trek transporter system that will magically transport matter from one location to another some day though. "beam it out scotty!" Sadly our understanding of physics wont allow this just yet!
@@LivinliteNet1 For several thousand you can get one of those toilets that burns the waste into sterile ash :)
@@LivinliteNet1 Actually, "they" figured that out way back in the 1950s or thereabouts. There was a system for motorhomes that emptied the tanks through a jet into the exhasust header pipe, where it was vaporized, sterilized, and spewed out the tailpipe while driving down the road. Like many good ideas, it disdappeared.
Do you have information/video of your computer control in your wet bay, along with the automatic dump valves your using. Do you build and sell the system? thanks
This was seriously like watching paint dry
Get to the point. 4:00 minutes and you didn’t hit the video topic
This is not really necessary with the black flush features on newer rigs. Simplify life and get a quality 3” 15’ hose, with a clear elbow, and maybe a extra 15’ hose to extend or replace. Less than $100. ( including second hose.)
My wife and I have been camping for 40 years when we are at a camp site with full hook up we leave everything open and have NO problem. My camper came with a back flush for the black tank and I saved lots of money and time on mot having this think, sorry not for me.
my sewer hose is over 5 years old and just smells like some old water, if that makes sense. not horrible. not great. maybe you're not rinsing it enough.
Yes i would buy this because it is important to me to chop up my poop before it goes down the sewer. Noooo... But you misleading title got me to waist part of my life to watch.
My attention span didn't last the distance, left at 6min
I suffered a little longer and went into boredom overload at 7 min!!!
I gave up - couldn't stand the swimming video, or the problem with lips a second behind the audio - definitely a low budget production for a low budget product.
At the risk of coming off as the Newbie I am, can someone explain the sequence of dumping both the gray and black water when using a macerator? I have not owned an RV for 20 years and am not familiar with dumping with a macerator. Specifically, assuming all valves are closed (black, gray and main valve) when I dump with a macerator, do I remove the fitting for use with a water hose and put the macerator hose in the dump at the RV park, open the black valve using the macerator hose and macerator, dump the gray water using the macerator pump and hose then close then close the black valve after flushing with water? Do I use the traditional sewer hose at all if I leave the macerator hose hooked up to dump gray water?
Cut the first 50 percent of the video.
To much gaby Gaby talk.
Listening to this guy is like watching paint dry
Yep way to much talk, don't understand the concept , just more to go wrong in the system and much more unneeded expense , and you still have a dirty hose to deal with . wow! someone was up all night thinking of a way to come up with something that is useless , and sell it to RVer that think they need another gadget. If you spend your money on this you have way to much money . its also a way for the RV repair specialist to make more money when it takes a dump. As I can see the other comments I am not alone in my thoughts. LOL
Wow... All these folks telling you to hurry the hell up : / I don't get it... Anyway, I thought your presentation was spot on and detail-oriented. Thanks for the information! I've been considering a macerator but know little about them. Your video really helped us a lot! Also, I'm interested if you will provide (or have already provided) info on your automated valve system. I've been thinking this would be quite a nice feature. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
I have a porcelain toilet with inbuild pump/mixer and empty my toilet tank with a 35 mm hose. Then the grey water tank trough the same hose. The toilet itself costed almost the same as this pump system.... ( those toilets are used in boats or in homes after making a second toilet room where it was original not intended .....with smaller pipes needed.... )
Way too much useless information
Ok maybe I missed something but what is the main purpose of this product? Does it basically “shred” everything coming out of your black tank and do it under pressure so it empties in 90 seconds?
And why would you want or need this?
You got a raspberry pi hooked up to a touchscreen, cellphone, and hardware? Man I'd love to see that Python code. Nice work!
I’ve got a few displays, Raspberry Pi’s laying around just looking for a job....
Only buy this if you like sewage baths. The corrugated discharge hose plugs up and blows off from the pressure. SEWAGE BATH!!!!!
Apparently, this vid was not made for newbies...like me. 1. What the hell is a macerator? Is it a blender/grinder of sorts for used toilet paper & poop? If so, that maybe should have been explained at the beginning. 2. Years ago, I had a very compact porta-potty that I used sometimes when camping. There are packets of eco-friendly chemicals that can be placed in the bottom of such toilets; those chemicals break down the waste in a relatively short time. Instead of the macerator, why not just flush one of those packets down the toilet once in awhile, or cut it open & pour the contents down? They also would deodorize the tank. That seems a lot simpler & much less costly than everything you just went through, eh?
Happy Trails
It is simpler. I agree, why make something that works more complicated.
I watched half the video and you still didn't have it out of the box , blah blah blah
So , basically, you spent a ton of money (oh, yeah it was given to you) to go from a 3" hose to a whole lot of 1 1/2" hose still coiled all over the ground that you're going to have to lift to drain before storing it. What am I missing?
Wow our hoses really don't stink much as we clean them out after dumping. We dump the black tank then the rear grey tank then the tub bathroom sink tank. Cleans it out great.
if you have long hair and use your shower inside the coach to wash your hair it will eventually clod the mascerater and you will have to take apart to take hair out. unless you have a wonderful niece with a handyman significant other to do the clean out for $20 you could pay a lot for having Camping World or another service unclog the system.
I see a vinyl cutter in the background. I sold my vinyl cutter to someone in CT. Wouldn’t it be funny if it was you! Lol
I am new to RVing, but my friend Bob taught me to first dump the black water tank, then dump the grey water tank to clean out the sewer hose, then I rinse out the sewer hose with fresh water and I have not had a stink problem. I do not put caps on my sewage hose (I have them) I couple the ends together and rinse off and shake the loop before storing in a plastic box.
too nonchalant and noisy:) I wanted to move on immediately.
Turbos are good Until they break down. The you wished you’d keep that old sewer hose. As Chris of off grid Schoolie. .
I guess I’m gonna stick with my regular hoses. Imagine how many you can buy for $299-300 !
He's impressed with a product he got for free. Why am I not surprised. It was so predictable. I'll continue to use my sewer hose. Thanks anyway
We would never recommend a product just because we got it for free. Lets be honest a video where we didn’t recommend or where something went wrong would get a lot more views! This is our honest opinion of the unit and so far its been a much easier to use solution that is faster (setup and breaking camp), eliminated all need for dealing with hose bayonet fittings and is working great. There is no denying the potential long term maintenance issues of a more complex system but I think its fair to ask why these are being installed on every high end coach if they don’t work. Its because once you use them, you definitely see the benefits but again, we never said the time tested hose was bad! Actually we said the opposite! Thanks for watching!
Not a shill for the channel, but he did recommend the other brand for a different scenario... or did you not actually watch the whole thing? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nice caps on your stinky slinky. Where can we buy those? (I don't want to mess with that slimed hose on the macerator. It won't be as clean as a stinky slinky after a "rinsing" with the soapy gray water.)
OMG! Get to it already!!!!