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Fox Host Compares Atheists To Hitler
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- Fox News radio host Todd Starnes on Tuesday said that atheists and non-religious people were taking the United States down the same road as Nazi Germany by trying to force religion out of government...
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Did he say "a rare win for God in America"?
Why does their god need to win? He's a god, doesn't he win by default with that logi.... oh, I almost said the L word in a sentence about Christianity. How silly of me.
Omg I'm dying 😂😂😂
@@___________482 hell sounds pretty dope tho. Look who's gonna be there! Freddy Mercury, all atheists, David Bowie, Stephen Hawking etc
@@___________482 fair enough
@@ralfphelps8365 I want to go to hell too :)
Because their god is illusion.
"It's very disturbing that people don't believe in the same 2000 year old fairy tale I do"
Will Charles yeah I mean people who have never heard of toilet paper totally know about the universe
Im an Athiest. Honestly I don't care what other people do or believe. It is not my problem nor is it my place to ask them to stop. My problem starts when people try to convert me. When people knock on my door and threaten me and "unholy" family with eternal damnation while waking up my sleeping baby. I never try to convert others to atheism. Religion isn't for me or my family but if you met us you would never know. You do not need the threat of hell to be good and moral. I wouldn't hurt a fly. I hate the stigma that comes along with non believers. I am simply me. I am happy and I know I am not alone.
Amanda Sailsbury you seem to be a very cool person
You could at least turn the garden hose on them.
They should keep their toys to your self
What the US needs is an atheist president. It would be a more momentous day than when a black one was elected.
Coconut Crab Actually, we probably have had one and just dont know it.
The Wilcox Network Wow I didn't know that. I thought it was just not recommended because nobody would vote for you xD.
+Coconut Crab Obama while chirstians was the closest the US has to an atheist president .. he correctly pointed out that the US is no longer a chirstain nation
The people of the United States would never elect an Athiest. The majority of Americans believe in some sort of god. It is a huge selling point for potentials, be them Catholic, Protestant, or other minorities.
Dorian Lindberg That is true but some candidates are far more religious than others.
Espically on Gay marriage and abortion
I love Fox News..............it's the best comedy show out there.
John Fraser That is actually not as stupid as it sounds. I live in Australia and detest Trump and am an atheist. I always watch Tucker Carlson because it's hilarious. These idiots on Fox actually think they are impartial.
John Fraser I really love how into character all the cast on faux news get, i can't help but forget that they're constantly doing sketches at times, boy what I'd give to be in the writers studio for that show
SuperEdge67 I still can't believe tucker Carlson doesn't have his own comedy show at this point, he always gets the best sketches
John F
I get my comedy from Fox News and my news from Comedy Central, just keeping' it REAL
Yeah their sarcasm is SOOO good. That you can hardly detect it.
It's funny that they think we _need_ some Great Almighty Overdaddy to give sapient beings worth. It's like they don't believe we have any intrinsic value at all...
OH WAIT THEY DON'T
People should be able to pray or read their bible anywhere they want. So long as my taxes aren't paying for it, I could give a shit.
FOX 'News' continues to not surprise me whatsoever.
"It's covered here in fox news" XDD it's cute how he thinks it helps the credibility
"We, as endowed by our creator" could simply be replaced by "We, as a free people". But who's trying to have that sentence changed? Whose creator? Which one? Vishnu? Allah? Zeus? I lose track sometimes.
I don't care what your stance is I really can't stand Fox and their narrow minded nonsense.
TheGood Shepherd Yeeeeeeeeeeeep. Fox, everything they stand for, and the nonsense that turns into a meme because of them, is what drove me from discussing politics a hell of a lot more. Politics have gotten to be sickening to me when I really start discussing it with people. But I've still gotta follow it just to stay in the know. Tossing out smart assed comments helps keep me sane though.
Butterworthy I feel you I used to be heavy on political talk but I've eased up because it only seems to cause me more stress.... Sadly the gaming community has been giving me that vibe allot. My next vid which should be up tonight hopefully once I add the intro and render it etc., will be... What is gaming fact vs fiction
The Flying Spaghetti Monster touched us with his noodly appendage....
My parents?
I'm glad and relieved that I live in the most unreligious country in the world.
Robin Bergström Which is?
Alex Darksider The magnificent country of Sweden.
Robin Bergström I must make arrangements.
The Geat I must make a vacation.
I'm a Christian but i think comparing atheists to nazis is just down right disgusting. Kyle you are atheists but you are NO nazi but a patriot!
Im at the point now that when someone tries to bring Hitler into it, i know they're out of arguments and the discussion is over
jichaelmackson1958
you are so right!
Loved the phrase 4:55 : "Their fucking beltbuckles said *Got mit uns*." I lost it.
STR33TSofJUST1C3 Why, may I ask?
TheYasmineFlower "Gott mit uns" => God with us
Question Everything I know; I'm German. What I don't get is why STR33TSofJUST1C3 lost it. Pronunciation? I can't tell just like that. Hence, I'm asking.
TheYasmineFlower I suspect he's from a younger generation and it's an expression that has modern usage that's foreign to me. By 'lost' I suspect he means he had a good laugh - at Fox's expense. They are renowned for their stupid claims, which ties-in nicely with the gullibility of their audience. Their audience is likely the result of combining poor Public education and unquestioning fundamental Christianity.
Question Everything I understood that he meant he laughed at it. And I am also familiar with what Fox considers "common knowledge". ;)
What I don't get is: Why did it make him laugh?
Is this more understandable now? I am quite surprised that you misunderstood me for the second time now - if I hadn't understood what "losing it" means, I'd have asked directly.
Oh, and My mother is a fundamentalist Christian, and SHE believes in secular government...
Vil Rovner I wish my mom was that, she is super Christan, and wants to ban evolution and bring Bible's into classes, and make governments 100% Christan, but then she says she allows people to have different opinions, while she wants to force her religion to people's throats.
I have never heard anyone say they wanted the word "creator" removed from the Declaration. "Creator" is a very broad word and is the perfect word to use. Creator could just mean, your parents or your birth.
1963Syracuse They don't even try to provide another point of view on these subjects. They do this so they won't be called out on their obvious lies. Sometimes I wish I could get inside the head of men like this so I could see if they are serious or just doing it to rile up the bible belt.
Appealing to the base? Not very concencus building
1963Syracuse
Could you imagine if this guy was talking about black people in this same exact way?
Or Jackie g lol
The word "creator" does not appear in the Constitution of the United States of America. (It's in the Declaration of Independence)
I'm British and I know that!
constitutionus.com
The fact that a Christian fundamentalist in America dares to compare, not just Atheists, but anyone not undeniably evil, to Hitler or Nazis is just sickening. I've seen some of the concentration camps with my own two eyes, from Auswitch and Birkenau to Sachsenhausen and Ravensbrück to mention just the ones that made the biggest impression on me. Ravensbrück, being a concentration camp purely for women and children, is a gruesome camp, and the stories we were told there, the pictures... You don't even wanna know.
I will tell you, there is NO WAY you can justify comparing ANYONE to Hitler or call them Nazis, purely based on their world view or religion (unless they're actually nazis). It's *insanely offensive*, not only towards those being called Nazis, but to the memory of the people who suffered the hellish conditions of those camps! These camps are a testament to pure, organized evil, executed with German precision,- built with one thing in mind: Mass extermination, genocide!
... And you, Todd Starnes, have the audacity to compare me and other free thinking, normal human beings to Hitler?! Not only do you do so, but you're saying it proudly! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!
If I'm wrong and there is a god, what makes you think he would want anything to do with you, huh? Fuck you!
Evil comes from good. That kind of mentality you bring is the reason why evil becomes, because in order to balance certain things, one has to take, from one giving. Must or must not... all relative. Good and evil are both sides of the same coin. You display also Nazi traits, same as everyone else. How did the Nazi's come to power? Apathy, the power to be right. Hatred for evil. It turns them into evil themselves.
He doesn't want "activist" judges. What does he want? Judges who do nothing? I would love that job.
I do not support comparing atheists to nazis even though I believe in God.
I fucking cringed when he said that he wrote a book called "God Bless America". Holy fucking shit
Polish Performance "God less america"
LOL in Canada if someone tried that there would be a shit storm, heck there is even a case in Quebec the mayor of Saguenay Lac St-Jean did that in the city public meeting and he was booed through the whole prayer.
This man deserves some sort of award! I only just started his videos tonight but I've already found myself drawn in by his incredible commentary on situations that need light shined upon them.
"the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" -Treaty of Tripoli signed by John Adams
"It's not covered by mainstream media, but it's covered here on fox news"
America has foresaken God, which is why we're in the mess we're in. Ghana, on the other hand, has embraced Christianity, and God has truly blessed Ghana.
Is this Ghana a person or place?
Second by your user name and profile picture combined with your comment I don't know if you are atheist anti theist or theist.
So I can not judge your comment.
But if you are for real and not quoting some idiot than your just a Christian troll.
But either way I don't know if your comment was meant literally or your just quoting some moron.
A victory for idiocy
That mans face is way too small for his head.
jim jimjim Hey! I see what you did!
The particular church Hitler belonged to never kicked him out. They did kick one of his buddies out, but for marrying outside the faith! After the war, this same church helped many Nazis escape to South America. They also hoarded lots of art stolen from the Jews in their central headquarters. Hint: The name of this church rhymes with bath lick.
+rationalguy Absolutely correct. I seem to keep agreeing with you rationalguy :)
People speaking as if their religious beliefs ought be made law utterly revolts me.
It's as if they want a repeat of the slaughterhouse that was the medieval era.
This guy compares atheists to Hilter, and says that the event doesn't get mainstream attention, as he's on fox discussing it..what a fucking genious.
LOL I love how he admits that fox is not mainstream media.
"should serve as a wake up call to americans how important elections are"
it sure does, holy shit.
secular talk guy i love your message keep up the great work bro!
Am I the only one who wanted to draw a little Hitler mustache on Todd? What with that hairstyle and all.
I liked what John Fugalsang said in his favorite rant, "...Jesus was against public prayer; oh yes he was, look it up. It's in Matthew...". So....Jesus was atheist?
The stupidity and arrogance of Fox "News" never fails to amaze me.
I got as frar as Fox News before I decided I was about to watch gibberish.
These kind of people are why humanity is locked in war and the world is filled with pollution and global warming.
Hitler was likely not a religious person, but not an atheist either. His "world view" was likely a mix of some elements of Catholic philosophy, Nordic Aryan myths, and Teutonic tribal mysteries. He certainly used many of the techniques of religions.....watch the giant meeting at Nuremburg, with all the pomp and ceremony. inspirational music, the whole deal.
Being an atheist means nothing about your character or honesty, necessarily. You can be an atheist and a psychopath, atheist and a philanthropist, atheist and a genius, atheist and a dolt. Atheists are far underrepresented in prisons, have fewer arrests, less frequently abuse children or spouses, are generally better educated and better paid, less frequently divorced. There is no dogma, no ceremony, you can sleep in on the weekends. Atheism deals with only one thing. Do you believe in a supernatural gawd or gawds? As long as this entity does not interact with our reality, the natural world, then it is supernatural. If it interacts with this realm, then it becomes a part of the natural world and therefore would be available for study. So far, no evidence for any gawd or gawds. If you can answer the question "do you believe in a gawd"? by saying yes, you are a theist. If you say no or I don't know, then you are an atheist. Not agnostic. Theism is about belief, gnosticism is about knowledge. Different topics.
+kim weaver Does his "Gott mit uns" mean anything to you? Gott mit uns = God with us!
Well known, as well as 50% of the SS were confessing Catholics.
He recognized power in the world and the Catholic Church had more than he was happy about, so he subsumed some of their practices and gave lip service to them, in return they quashed the German Christian Socialist party, giving Hitler a clear path to becoming Chancellor and in return he turned the education system over to them.
I understand why people hate fox news now...
1:45 "Waging a war" are you fucking kidding me? YOU HAVE TO BE ARMED to start a war you dummy.
Its funny how the guy comparing others to Hitler has a haircut that reminds me of Hitler. LOL!
why does that fox host look like a teenage mutant ninja turtle
So,the judiciary body responsible for making sure that laws are constitutional has ruled directly against one of the primary tenets of the constitution? Good work guys, way to earn those paychecks.
Yes the problem is that we have activist judges on the Supreme Court. Activist judges that wish to tear down the wall of separation between church and state.
If I didn't know better, the quality of the conversation between these two reminds me of those found in a schoolyard.
The great Gandhi said "I love Jesus but I don't like Christians because they do not do what Jesus preached".He was pointing at Western Evangelicals .Who goes to heaven a atheist who does good for mankind or a Christian hypocrites !
Why would you want to pray at a town meeting? You pray at church. A town meeting to discuss politics and economics isn't a place about religion. Do they allow other religions to do prayers?
Really as long as religion isn't making laws I'm good but that is happening
Two places the Constitution mentions religion: the First Amendment and Article VI, Paragraph 3 about no religious tests for office.
I started crying in laughter at 3:48 when you began to clap.
Listening to the clip, my eyes hurt from rolling them so much
Your analysis is extremely well done.
Both Jesus and Hitler
1. Wanted to rule the world.
2. Demanded allegiance and submission from all, without exception.
3. Promised utopia to those who abandoned everyone and everything and followed him.
4. Mandated that failure to support and comply with his agenda be punishable by unimaginable brutal torture.
5. Loved, supported and cheered by millions eager to turn against friends and family, uniting in the quest to extinguish freedom of thought, conscience and expression, all in the hope they will be rewarded by being among the privileged few to escape his brutality.
When he talked about Hitler and said "remove creator from the mix and look what happens" I literally had to pause the video double face palm and collect myself from the pure mind numbing uninformed rhetoric.
Last time I checked "endowed by our creator" is from the Declaration of Independence which has no legal authority in this country. And then he's like "Well what are we going to put there?" As surprising as it is we don't need to replace it.
Just being honest, I was so engulfed by the scroll bars message, talking about two acrobats injuries, that I didn’t listen to a word the guys on fox actually said lmfao. So your talking about it after is definitely the only reason I figured it out without going backwards lmao. That should perfectly describe the problem I have with watching fox
this guy has the same exact hair cut as hitler....
0S7VN0 normal people jerk off in the middle of the room his corner jerking sounds scary and wrong XD.
Have any of these people heard of the Treaty of Tripoli, 1797? It clearly says America isn't meant to be a Christian nation.
Kids can´t practice religion afterhours at Community schools? That´s the way it should be!
Conservatives seem unaware of the fact that there's such a thing as records that let us go back and see what people said.
Always bringing up the Nazi comparisons....sounds like the Pol Pot calling the kettle a genocidal maniac.
it doesn't matter how many times you said it they will never hear it or admitted. that's the conservative mind.
A "pinch of salt" probably is required; those are just single sentence "Founders" quotes, completely isolated from other quotes and lacking context.
1:15
"The atheists and the secularists have been challenging these prayers, not just in the public sector, but also in public schools"
Not JUST in the "Public-Sector" ... but even in the "PUBLIC Schools" he said. I wonder how his lips and vocal cords can make all these sounds without brain activity to direct them. What a bizarre phenomenon.
Did anyone else hear him say ' I lied " at 1:38 ? Is that what " Freudian slip " means. Oops, I misheard him say, " I write."
Hitler's religion is very difficult to pinpoint, because, while he was baptised as a child and went to church when he was younger, he never attended church after leaving home. He also was skeptical of religion, sent priests to concentration camps, and when the Nazis invaded Poland, they immediately dismantled the church. There was in fact a dedicated clergy barracks at the Dachau Concentration Camp, with 94% of the people there being Roman Catholic, with around 400 German priests being among them. The Nazis dissolved the Catholic school board by 1939, followed by the Catholic press on 1941. It would have been difficult for Hitler to openly be an atheist who was trying to eliminate all religion in Germany, the latter of which he very likely was when the overwhelming majority of Germany was either Protestant or Catholic, with only about 3.4% being deist, and 1.5% being atheist. Stating that Hitler WAS a Catholic, or Hitler WAS an atheist, or Hitler was this religion, etc. is ignorant and one-sided, as Hitler's complicated and contradictory belief system is nearly impossible to describe with perfect accuracy. Some people claim he's an atheist, even though he openly believed in a creator and talked about God in his speeches. Those who claim he was a Catholic also have to explain why the Nazis, which were basically a reflection of Hitler's beliefs, would completely dismantle the Catholic church in Poland, why he would send German priests to concentration camps, dissolve the Catholic schools and press in Germany, and have an entire plan laid out on eliminating Christianity and all religion in Germany, or at least modify it to Hitler's liking. Neither side is with absolute certainty, correct, as both have contradicting evidence against them. However, I agreed with the rest of the video.
And regardless of what he was, it doesn't matter. If he was Catholic, it doesn't immediately mean all Catholics are bad. If he was atheist, it doesn't mean all atheists are bad. People will throw Hitler on the side they don't like to make the other side look bad (ie, atheists claiming Hitler was Catholic, vice versa, left wingers claiming he was a right winger, vice versa). It's because people have personal biases for what they believe and misguided and misinformed views of what they're against (what left wing and right wing actually means, and where Hitler is placed on the scale, depending on your interpretation). I have biases, too. I'm not leaving myself out. I'm a left to far left democratic socialist atheist, believe it or not, but I try to view things in an unbiased way, rather than a way that favours me.
What bothers me in the comment section, is how people are appropriating Hitler to make their point. Hitler was a monster, who utilized whatever was at his disposal in order to trick the German people at that time. His religion or lack there of is irrelevant. Him being a monster doesn’t mean Christians or Atheists are monsters. Seriously, I religious debate around this time and earlier was a joke. A bunch of deceitful, hateful bullies, more concerned with winning arguments, than compassion or reason.
Oh ghod it's happened, they bred Limbaugh and Jones.
LoL!
Nazi era Germany was never an Atheist country by any definition. Even the SS issued Easter cards and Christmas cards as a matter of course. If you you ignore the ridiculous 'Spear of Destiny" incantations, you still have to explain the acceptance of religious marriage in the SS.
He´s right. the whole Hitler-thing didn´t worked very well for Germany. But therefore the church worked really well with Hitler.
Secular proponents are Nazis? Didn't the Nazis wear belt buckles that said "God With Us" in German?
They don't even have new bad arguments.
Funny since he adopted Hitler's hair style. All he needs is that funny little mustache.
Despite the fact that more people have been murdered in the name of god than for any other reason.
Why is it that if someone tells you that they are a Christian that they automatically assume that they are entitled to some higher level of respect than anyone else?
so, i'm from ghana, didn't expect u to use it as an example tbh:-)) i'm like one of the 10 or so atheists in that country of the super religious, and although we have a separation of church and state, and there's by law religious freedom in ghana, it's really hard to be an atheist in that country. And yea, it's my country, but i agree it's quite shitty over there, and the fact that we are so religious doesn't help in anyway
Starnes makes it seem like the only people who would be against prayer in public schools and at public meetings are atheists. Because that prayer would be completely non-denominational? Arguments like this always assume that the issue is religion (only ever Christianity) versus no religion, as opposed to no one specific religion versus the establishment or endorsement of a particular (Christian) religion.
When it's not covered by mainstream news but is covered by fox then you know you have an issue
I faceplamed so many times my hang is starting to hurt. Like seriously dude, when you blindly compare Atheists to Nazis, the nazi population wasnt against Christianity, but Catholicism, because for some odd reason Catholics and Protestants are constantly at eachothers throats, and before you go and accuse Hitler of being an atheist, count how many times he referenced to the Christian "God" in Mien Kumpf. And how come every Christian blames Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong for being killer atheists, but yet no one Christian will dare bring up Mary the 1st of England who almost killed off the entire population of Protestants in England to restore Catholicism. And they have seem to have forgetten Isabella the First of Castille who expelled all Jews and Muslims from spain in order to restore Catholicism to Spain. Like seriously Christians, think before you speak.
Dude, calling Romania "hell on earth" is extremely offensive
The host here is actually wrong when he claims that the US Constitution makes no reference to god - god in fact gets a mention right off the bat, in the phrase "In the year of our Lord...". But of course it is no more "religious" than the practise of using AD and BC for dates, regardless of any beliefs. Then there are two further references to religion in the body of the document... and in both cases it is mentioned specifically to prohibit religion interfering with government.
For tose of you who speak swdish I can strongly recómmend an article written by Eva Moberg with the headline "Gud bevare oss från Herren." That´s "God bless us from The Lord" in English.
"Gott mit uns" the phrase used on many pieces of uniform, including their decretive knives. They were far from atheists
Why do you wear an earpiece with a microphone, as well as a studio mic?
_Grease_ is over 99% Christian, and the remainder is John Travolta. :-)
Wrong, Hitler was RAISED Roman Catholic. By the time of the third Reich he was at very least an agnostic or pragmatist. He was definitely of a secular mind during the reign of Nazi Germany. He criticized the Catholic Church (Which was basically unheard of back then by sworn Catholics) The Christian symbolism the Nazis used were opportunistic at best.
'Who do you put in there?' No one dude. Why do these guys always narrow the scope of a question to a 'someone?'
These people don't care about facts, so no amount of showing them the truth will matter.
Which site do you use for these awesome quotes? There's a lot of crappy ones out there.
The population of citizens of Christian faith in Nazi Germany is irrelevant when they aren't a part of government decisions. I feel as if you should have attacked how the fat guy said that Obama is fighting a war on Christians, when Obama is one himself. I don't understand the correlation you're trying to distinguish, though I really appreciate the quotes you read of the founding fathers. Great decision uploading this!
can I get a list of documents these quotes come from? I think that instead of history books in schools, we should instead give students the documents from these historical figures to read.
Good I will request a Wiccan prayer at my local city council.
Atheists don't care what deity you believe in, but Christians must hammer everyone over the head with the ridiculous idea that there is a giant, invisible, spaghetti monster watching us 24/7.
"Anti-Christian folks"...why does he assume that you're either Christian or atheist? Oh yeah, because he's at FOX.
I like how he does the Shari'a comparison, also.
Abe Lincoln was a founding father? I thought he was a pro wrestler.
I agree with the point of this video, and am an atheist. However, that John Adams quote is actually out-of-context, which to be fair, you might not be aware of, as it's oft-misquoted. The full quote is from a letter to Jefferson, and reads as follows:
"Twenty times in the course of my late reading have I been on the point of breaking out, 'This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion at all!' But in this exclamation I would have been as fanatical as Bryant or Cleverly. Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company, I mean hell."
The personal beliefs of the founding fathers are largely irrelevant to me, though, seeing as they have little to no bearing on how they wanted our government to function - as much as people on every side like to cling to their quotations as argumentative resources.
Those people don't have the remotest idea what they're talking about. They can say Hitler was a socialist (well, sort of, a national one) but that doesn't make all socialists nazis, on the contrary, all other socialists were against him. First inmates of Dachau concentration camp were political prisoners like communists, patriot dissidents, opposition etc. The III Reich was a weird construct, but people there were definately not atheists (though all the suffering and tragedies they saw might as well have made plenty of atheists...). Germany heading for the III Reich was half protestant and half catholic along with some minorities (yes, those felt quite unwelcome when Hitler took over). Kyle is right here, soldiers did wear "God is with us" belt buckles as a long military tradition, they had priests in their units like all other Western armies. It is a bit ironic, isn't it? Hitler and the III Reich elite planned to invent some other esoteric religion and it's clear from that state's symbolism.
PS Surprise surprise, all the founding fathers were not Christian, they were at forefront of elightment (mostly deists) and still conservatives. Would anyone call them nazis?
Those bits are my favourite debate cookies... They have a curious flavour: complicated. That would be a bad call and quite insulting to a large part of the world. We've all probably made some mistakes struggling to explain how much untrue this comparison is. At that time Germany was in general divided between lutherans and catholics but the state itself had something much more in plans transforming itself into a new religion largely based on mythology, Germanic traditions somehow merged with Christianity and borrowed fairy tales. Anyway, Hitler wasn't secular. He believed in some kind of divine providence and used religious hierarchy to his aims on a regular basis. Some bishops were more than happy to cooperate.
Listening to these people talk needs to come with a public health warning.
It's not covered on mainstream media but it's covered on fox news...... these guys just aren't smart
Never trust anyone who believes in nonsense for they will believe in anything.