"They Were WRONG!" - Neil deGrasse Tyson In Heated Vaccine Debate With Patrick Bet-David
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In this short clip, Patrick Bet-David, Neil Tyson and Adam Sosnick talk about whether people should be forced to take the vaccine.
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A true man admits how little he truly knows. An idiot will work like mad for you to think he’s right, even when he’s not.
Hahahahha let me guess Pbd is right and the scientist is wrong. Of course!!! You sycophants are astonishing 😅😅
@@gerk7238 Yes, the celebrity scientist (who's paid to push a narrative) is not automatically right just because he's a scientist. 🤣 Also, you're deliberately mischaracterizing Arthur here, as he's not trying to flatter anyone. He made a vague statement and didn't even name any names.
It's obvious that YOU are presuming Neil to be, and recognizing Neil as, "the idiot working like mad to make you think he's right." Once again, it was a vague statement, no names mentioned, you filled in the blanks yourself. If you didn't think that to be true, you may have said, "I know, it's amazing how much of a true man and how humble Neil is in his knowledge, and that Patrick is like a con artist with his logical fallacies. Why the hell is he trying to convince us so hard? What does he have to gain? Does he really care about people that much, he's gotta convince us "for our own good," because we're just too dumb to understand.
We all know that's not true at this point though. Thanks for confirming it. 👍
@@gerk7238 well the scientist (astrophysicist) repeatedly claimed that it blocked transmission (get the shot to protect others), which is demonstrably false. So you’re choosing to believe the scientist because he’s a scientist (in a completely different field), regardless of the fallacies he’s spewing, yet WE are the sycophants??? What a good little media parroting sheep you are. Bless your heart.
Well said😊
@ge rk hahahaha, yeah, right? Because everyone knows scientists are never wrong.. hahahaha
“It’s easy to fool a man, but it’s nearly impossible to convince him he’s been fooled.” - Mark Twain
Love this!!!
Completely impossible if that man is the one fooling everyone.
AWESOME quote! That's why keep going deeper and deeper...
This guy is an idiot. It was TRIALS and those should be named as safe or sure as hell not mandated.
Lmao jokes on you this man is not being fooled. He is an actor and a shill he knows exactly what he is doing.
It's hard to win an argument against a smart person, it's impossible to win against a dumb one.
Get over yourself.
Dumb one being neal?
These are two very smart men, they just made a different conclusion.
Well one is a nuclear physicist and the other sells pyramid schemes
@@mattmobley9341Tyson is not intelligent when it comes to common sense.
the longer he blabbers the less confident his argument gets
why, are the words he’s using too big for you to understand?
@@jaironunez7470 did I mention anything about not understanding? Or is English your second language
That's because you don't understand science or how things work in the real world.
@@tbitv2035no need for you to mention anything about you not understanding. That part is obvious.
@@nicholashuff4198 I didn't mention not understanding first, or even comment on that, so maybe brush up on your reading comprehension. But by all means, enlighten me to the science. I'm curious as to how things work in your version of the "real world."
“It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
Exactly. All these podcasters getting views on vaccine denialism will never be able to accept that the science is clear that the vaccines are safe and effective.
Abiogenesis research included.
The irony of this comment
If enough money told him that the vaccine never harmed anyone he'd be screaming it. Personal greed over moral compass is what leads to this B.S.
@@marvinheemeyer6660 the Bible got it right. 👍
Neil is so smart that he thinks we're stupid. That's how smart he is
The summary of the last 2 years right there.
That's not intelligence. The intelligent person understands that for anything to be believable, it has to be consistent. There's been massive inconsistencies with the CHINA virus. Neil has never been a credible "scientist". He's a lobbyist.
Haha yes so smart
When people kiss your ass all day you tend to get an undeserved sense of entitlement.
and you are so naive to think you are smart. That´s how naive you are
Why is covid 19 gone so quickly as it came on? No one is really focusing on it now. People want to choose and live their lives
Living is hard enough 😢😢😢
Crazy, TH-cam still censors FACTS on this subject
Yup! Lawsuits are being WON, and they are still trying to convince people that it’s “safe and effective” unbelievable!
And what does that tell you it speaks loud volumes to me
Fun fact: Federal contractors who work 100% remote were still mandated to get vaccinated or lose their jobs.
I can confirm. Got an attorney and they left me the fuck alone
@@beautifully_scarred_lea you go girl
The fake vaccine card worked every time. I know more people without the shot then I do with it. They looked at the cards like a bouncer looking at an ID they didn’t care as long as it was a real issued card.
A lot of corporate employees too. Full work from home
“To promote a safe work place”. Crazy. They were pushing those doses for the shareholders.
Neil deGrasse Tyson's word salad is spectacular. Albert Einstein: If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
i love this quote thank you
Precisely
It’s easy to see he doesn’t have his mind wrapped around the issue well at all.
You can literally see him searching the air for justifications and explanations… even when he himself doesn’t have all the facts. “Okay….” 🤔🤔🤔 He is supposed to be a scientist. This is so bizarre.
Presented with Heather McDonald like zeal
Thank God I didn't Fall for the toxic Clot Shot scam
If the strain evolved then why didn't we lower the enforcement accordingly? If the shot (not a vaccine) vaccine only helped me personally, not the larger group?
Ya it wasn't a vaccine, but for some reason calling it a vaccine is never labeled as misinformation. It was a 'leaky vaccine' meaning that it was very specific in the strain it was effective against....meaning basically that vaccinating everyone was in effect SELECTING for new strains. Whereas natural immunity has a broader immunity. Reading RFK jr's book "The Real Anthony Fauci", the first chapter demolishes all of Neil's arguments. Side note: Neil loves stats, I don't believe for a sec he doesn't know which states did better. Seems like something a scientist would look into but all of a sudden he is "mr.Oh I don't pay attention to such things, I just play a scientist on tv"
So Neil is still riding with the "If you don't take the injection mine won't work" narrative lol
Yes, and I think he vastly overstates the chance of death. And downplays any vax side effects
Clown science for the Clown World Order
@@BlueMoon-vp1ht lol 3% death rate Neil? Because we are all octogenarians with terminal brain cancer, right? What a clown.
He also basically said the vaccine stops transmission by saying you get the shot to protect others. He’s clearly not up to date with his information.
How stupid can you be to assume that is what he is riding with? He is just saying that if I take it and you don't, I'm still at risk cause the vaccine is not 100 pc in preventing me from getting covid. At the same time too, you put other people who haven't gotten the shot at even greater risk of infection and death if they have an underlying condition.
Hospitals were too busy making tick-tock videos in the Empty facilities.
Instead of mandating a person to take the vaccine because of the risk of contaminating others, let anyone who fears being contaminated take the vaccine. Then everyone lives peacefully. That's how it worked out in Nigeria. Our old people weren't wiped out. Vaccination rate in Africa was 5% tops. The death or critical hospitalizations due to covid were almost non existent.
@alichefortune862 Sorry, that won't work because not everyone who needs protection can get vaccinated. Attach a government link to the data.
Because that is not how contagion works and your comparison is horrible, population density and transit between major cities in the us and nigeria is not even on the same chart.
Jfc this like seeing a lighthouse in a storm. Every comment is about how long he speaks. Is he not supposed to answer questions? Braincell lacking-brains abound
People in the hospitals died from the government mandated TREATMENT PROTOCOL. Remdesivir was KNOWN by our government to have killed EVERY AIDS patient that took it.
@@damp2269 kindly breakdown how contagion works in respect to population density and see your argument fall flat
"No amount of evidence ever convinced an idiot."
~Mark Twain
or the lack of evidence , not to question the fact that people all over tv just dropping dead... not to question that is insane.
Information from who? Neil is using information that the media have been saying for 2.5 years. Pfizer came out saying the vaccine wasn't tested for preventing transmission. Pfizer has also been coming out saying the vaccine is less and less effective, lowering its per cent from 99% over the years.
@@dale8957 yes and there has been several drs. nurses , scientists that comes out all the time disputing nils claims.
@@PatrickOneal-nl7xk proof
Pbd you come across as a idiot on this subject. Stick with hip hop. You're good at it. You say 5 years you might get heart trouble, you could get hit by a truck?
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain
This quote is more true than might seem at first glance. I happened to be at a workplace where I encountered some people who were like this and after a long time of being provoked, I snapped, got dragged down to their level and yeah, they then beat me with experience because the behavior they displayed in an attempt to win, I honestly find it still hard to believe adults are capable such absurd and embarrassingly stupid, non-sensicel and brash behavior to get their way.
Like really, this quote is an interesting food for thought, but if you're forced to actually experience every word of it. Few things in life are as soul crushing as this.
Oh and I might add my own variation from this experience - "Never let stupid people know you're smarter than them, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
Neil is obviously not the stupid one, ever!
kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control....Godless people will always create hell !!!
@@paddaman2003
Good one. Seriously though, he shouldn't speak scientifically beyond astronomy. He's ridiculous
@@pbot6593 he's a scientist!
They should never be able to force us to put anything in our bodies never
They've always done it. You just didn't have a problem with it until your political party decided it was bad.
@@jlb9210what are you on about? I'm not a member of a political party and knew right away not to take the heart attack juice. It's a common sense thing. Not a political thing. Most people I associate with is an independent ( critical thinker) and all of them refused to take it. None died by the way. Maybe you misunderstood the reason people didn't want it. I'm not at all surprised.
@@jlb9210 apparently you seem to think big pharma, and big government give a fuck about you or your health. wake the fuck up, its insulting how complacent you are.
Nobody was forced to take the vaccine. Everyone had a choice. If the choice was not a good choice, they still had a choice.
@@TheNatewl777 still didn't have a heart attack after the vaxx. Btw covid raises the chance of a heart attack drastically higher than any vaccine. Also you have taken mandatory vaccines (polio) so yes they are already forcing you to do things
Apparently there is a public health contract I have signed. Thanks for clearing that up Neil.
Yup. You need to follow the laws of this country. You can't yell 'BOMB' at an airport, you need to report a crime if you see one, following traffic laws, and you need to take your vaccines. Nothing new.
He is sounding like the lying MSM.
Lmao
That was such a PARTIAL TRUTH. And he way overstated it. We have many public health crises where others are influencing and contaminating others in a way that negatively impacts their health. The way Covid policy was handled was clearly different and much more totalitarian.
@Mike Comparing a restaurant workers washing their hands to FORCED vaccination is comparing apples with oranges sunshine. False equivalence.
Spoken like a dedicated soldier of the “Ministry of Truth.”
NdT has his goosestep down like a pro.
Holy shit it was enraging listening to him make up shit to justify his Pfizer allegiance
😄
So true
1984 read it asap!
The Steven Segal of science
Seagal is much heavier, he's also a much better at martial arts than Neil has ever been at thinking
Indeed! What a joker!
@@atois2521 He’s an entertainer. He’s a “celebrity scientist”. The dude literally is a clown. He’s the autistic kid who grows up wanting to be an astronaut so you let him go on a test ride rocket and for the rest of his life he tells people he’s been to the moon. 😂
😂For the win, the Seagal of science!😅
@@JosephHurtsellerslol y'allare so jealous of Black people it's comical.
Question: What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?
This guy found his hill and we all are watching him die on it. I love the internet.
😂😂😂
We all he croaks soon too. 😂😂😂.. have a good night neil grass Tyson 🍗
"if you want to live on the beach unvaccinated, that's fine" -Neil
But Neil forgets that people were barred from going to the beach and some were arrested for doing it.
I think he said that because he understands how powerful vitamin D & Salt water is though he never openly admit it in regard to cv-19. Those are the real reasons people were banned from the beach. Two powerful immune boosters.
Get him!!!!
But it's ok for dirty homeless to roam around the beach vax or not
@@V_ii wtf. He did not say it for that reason. He said it because of the space between people. He LITERALLY explained it in this vid.
The banning was due to the mostly gathering of groups while at the beach and during the travelling that might increase infected individuals you come across with! Don't take it out of context! If you own your own beach with no one around that's what Neil meant to say!
It's funny how he never thinks he's wrong under any circumstances and he raises his voice in order to rule the conversation he thinks he's the smartest guy on the planet and he's not
The host literally thinks the same way. Except he’s calm, that’s the only difference. Both are hard on their POV
Sometimes he interrupts without even having his next sentence thought out. at the 7:13 mark you can see him raise his hand, say "watch", and then think of his next sentence
Tyson claims to be a scientist but it's obvious he really really hasn't understood what has really gone down. The vaccine was a colossal failure and Tyson doesn't even know it. It's obvious he hasn't studied the issue at all. He's basing his position on what science should be not what the current reality is. Sorry but he doesn't know what he's talking about it!
He's trying to keep his job. If he were honest, Hayden Planetarium would have a new director by morning.
Far from it
I didn’t know the social contract was based on what scientists tell us.
LoL
Where is the social contract in the Constitution? This guy is literally making shit up. What happened to my body my choice?
Contract is an agreement between two or more parties. A mandate is an entirely different animal.
@@jongarcia982 Article 36 (3) of our Constitution emphasizes the obligation to protect the national health of the nation by stipulating that “all citizens are protected by the state in relation to health.” This means that the right to health as a social fundamental right is the most important aspect of health rights
Now you know.
Required to protect the protected by getting the protection that didn't protect the protected in the first place
This guy is more skilled at deflection than anything else.
I say to Neil if its dirty you can't clean it up, I don't care how brilliant you are...for myself a flu shot almost kill me in 1997, I haven't taken one sense, I researched everything about Covid, because I'm realistic, and IMO covid had a lot of BS, and I had know fear of it, though I had preexisting health issues, I felt vaccination would not help me, but instead would warm me, simply because of what I've experienced with the flu shot and I stand firm...Melvin that Avatar looks familiar 🤔 I'm wondering if you're my folks.
@@edwardcopeland5069 the problem is that covid vaccine has nothing to do with the flu vaccine. They are designed differently and use a different technology. Do you guys really think catching Covid is better than getting a vaccine? Look up videos online, we had people on ventilators, people waiting for a bed in hospitals, millions of people have died around the world. Yes, the vaccine has a few side effects, just like anything else, aspirin has side effects, coffe has side effects, shoot even drinking too much water can cause problems. The point is, there are consequences of having covid, some of which include hospitalization, intubation, death, and even covid has long lasting effects like lung scarring, lung injury, it even affects your heart and your brain.
@@edwardcopeland5069 and you were right. If only more people would think for themselves
Guys imagine how weak minded you gotta be to believe a vaccine will kill you. It’s kinda ludicrous
That's y he's always all over television
Neil when he’s speaking and someone tries to interject a fact: “Let me finish.” “Hold on.”
Neil when someone else is speaking and he disagrees: “No no no no no!”
He's a true TWATWAFFFLE
Well that's because his opponent is arguing in bad faith. Neil listens to and responds directly to accusations the host presents. But every time Neil counters with his own argument or accusation the host just completely ignores it and moves on to the next subject. So it's obvious that either the host is completely ignorant and doesn't know what he's talking about therefore he cannot mount a rebuttal, or he's arguing in bad faith just spouting off talking points to get a rise out of his audience and overwhelm Neil. The ladder is a common strategy employed by the right, because it takes 10 times the effort to disprove something than it takes to make the accusation in the first place. So their end goal is to just exhaust you through an endless series of time wasting exercises until you get annoyed and they can claim victory when you exit the conversation
@@ticenits1926 sounds like you are describing exactly what Tyson did? what exactly about his arguments was enough data and proof for you to take it harder from the daddy government? listened three times to this argument so far and have yet to hear Tyson make a relevant case that does not ignore the OBVIOUS fallacies of the method we used to get here. he is pretending we didn't break science here. he knows he took part in it. look up the vaccines we rushed in the 80's and 90's and what they did to kids, look up the 3-5 generations of polio vaccines it took to STOP ending the lives of kids by accident or paralyzing them for life etc. in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS>.. to rush this, is fallacy, and ANY scientist who says i am wrong is being paid to. The claim we are not good at statistics but the world being based on statistical analytics, is the big "uh huh" you should have with him too. especially when other programs have been ended abruptly and VERY publicly due to FAR LESS complications then we are seeing now.
like he literally goes off about how statistics mean nothing, then makes an argument USING STATISTICS showing that covid will do bad to you... so this is mr. tyson: don't use statistics they are bad, but let me describe your risk choices with covid using statistics... your argument is MUTE from mr. tysons OWN arguments. sheesh...talk about polarized. Let me guess right wing politics make you evil by default? all thsoe evil right wingers hey? just wow.
@@ticenits1926 not sure what interview you're referring to, but what you describe is not what occurred in the video i just watched above
@@ticenits1926 yeah…..except none of that happened here,😂. You do read like a leftist, making a point that doesn’t apply to argument at hand
I never understood people that claim they read the science and start off the argument that it wasn’t tested.
It wasn't tested... enough. And, well, the results are right there. Fact of the matter is, the human body is such a complex construct that it's borderline impossible to test any vaccine against all possible permutations of that body. But, with just three quarters of a year of testing, you've barely begun scratching the surface of the number of possible permutations. Heck, from one individual body to the next, you can have such wildly different reactions to even more basic compounds that, well... what is perfectly healthy for one individual is actually lethal to another. Peanut allergies? How about lactose intolerance? And on and on and on.
And people genuinely thought that three quarters of a year of testing a vaccine was enough? It's... unrealistic. The malaria vaccine took 40+ years to develop. That is the sort of timescale which is more realistic with vaccines. Heck, we've been trying to create an HIV vaccine for decades as well by now and, well... no dice yet. Really... the SARS-2 (COVID) vaccines just weren't tested. That really just is the long and short of it. By numbers alone, the number of people or bodies they could have tested it on pales in comparison to the number of people that the vaccines were rolled out to (the entire human population). Divide one by the other and, well, the result is approaching zero. So, yeah, mathematically it remained untested before being rolled out.
Do you know the long term effects? No, nobody does. Everyone is testing out the long term effects. Also Neil's argument that by not getting the shot you are putting others at risk is so incredibly stupid. If it works, it shouldn't matter if I take it, others are protected if they take it, right? If I get coughed on by someone with COVID and then go to work, I am bringing the virus into work whether I had the vaccine or not. Others can still be exposed to the virus if it is on my clothes. The vaccine can not prevent exposure, it's a stupid argument.
@@xfKYZacTri first of all, I’m 100% sure you’ve taken vaccine at birth and multiple medications since then, so right away your “human body is so complex” argument is bullshit straight through the window. Truth is while it very complicated, something like a lactose intolerance wouldn’t even impact an intravenous medication or vaccine. Also, just like the medications you have taken were tested in the exact same methods before being approved for commercial use by the FDA or your local drug administration governing body. Honestly, as a med student, the herd sheep/ political indoctrination to the masses against easily accessible scientific information is so saddening. Also, the malaria vaccine didn’t have anywhere near the funding nor the human need because we already had medical treatments and even an evolutionary prevention (sickle cell disease) against it. Also, the vaccine for HIV hasn’t been created because of the rate of permutation made less sense to make a vaccine that targets its antigens rather than make medications that more efficiently targeted the macrophages and T cells that HIV targeted and the proteins it depends on to proliferate. Lastly, the final stage of medical testing is stage 4, which is after it’s rolled out. This isn’t unique to the COVID vaccines, this is done for all treatments . Where both testing and patient reports of adverse effects are monitored. This is because this is the only phase medical treatment is done on such a large scale. This isn’t done uniquely to the COVID vaccine but all medical treatment. The demonization for a treatment that literally followed another protocol(only difference is it had much more funding so it finished father) is totally beyond me
You can also make the same argument with people developing natural immunity after having Covid as to why people stopped dying. Along with the initial more lethal strain burned out.
No you can not.
@@dannydickylilly I just realized what kind of people are watching this video. Science deniers and cave people coming to see Neil talk about stuff over their heads. No use in trying to explain it to them.
Nope
@@dannydickylilly
Why not?
@Dteshome85 because what data supports this? I could say fairy's heal, everyone? It's just a valid with no supporting evidence.
Neil says "Be careful how you share information" as he blatantly omits the info that doesn't support his argument🤔😂
Those are two different things. Neil wasn't talking about how to SUPPORT a particular argument. He was talking about how you simply PRESENT information. Patrick was saying pre-vaxx, 29 athletes died suddenly from heart failure, but after the vaxxes 1500 people died suddenly from the same reason. Speaking in those terms, he's already blaming the vaxx for this sudden increase. Correlation does not equal causation. That is Science 101.
@@hrs2044 I was talking about everything Neil was saying, not that particular instance. We're on the same page there
@@MindWideOpenOfficial Neil was just spouting actual data and statistics, that's what scientists do. If anything was left out, it's most likely cuz it's conspiratorial nonsense that is NOT backed up by verifiable data, or simply that no one brought it up. Patrick coulda easily brought up anything that did not support what Neil was saying. That's on him as the one who is pushing back against Neil.
@@hrs2044 first part of that we'll have to agree to disagree, or maybe it was that no one brought it up. Second part I agree with
Neil is exactly the type of person who would have cast stones at Galileo and Copernicus.
Exactly
No. Neither were biologists to my knowledge. Also, the catholic church did the house arrest of Galileo, not scientists, sincerely a catholic.
Yeah no
The guy whos promoting the adheration to science, would be the one to cast stones, and not the ones claiming the science is fake? L0L
He is 100% bought.. It is so blatant visible. the saying "the emeperor have no clothes" has seldom been more appropriate
There is an entire system in place, and we ignored it.
PS- this is America. There is NO social contract that says a few guys in DC get to tell me what to do with my personal health.
Let's say you go to a restaurant. While you are placing your order, the person who will be making your food is taking a shit. The law says he must wash his hands before returning to the kitchen. Did "a few guys in DC" just violate his rights by telling him what to do with his personal health? Or is the idea to protect you from getting sick by him? I'm not looking to start a fight, nor did I support a full-on vaccine mandate for everyone. I'm saying there's a broader picture to consider when deciding who needed to be vaccinated for the safety of others.
I bet you had your kids vaccinated for school without hesitating.
@@brianschehl8534you give up your rights for "safety" we have been warned about this and it is happening
Yes! Same goes for anything to do with our bodies. Government, back away.
But they think so. Plus WHO owes everyone one an apology.
It’s amazing how your entire opinion of someone can change so much in 25 mins
Sad I used to love Neil
1 minute
Hahaha
You must be low iq then
@@Josh-fz9rh don't be sad, the guy is an absolute bellend
I’m willing to be part of a social contract where both parties are held responsible for the truth, aren’t benefitting financially, and don’t practice deception.
Well said! 🙏
Amen!!
ok cave man
@@mgoogleuser8011 ok “m google user” bot
Then you sir have never been to McDonald's
JUST NOW Catching this Show. May 2024. SO MUCH TRUTH is Revealed since this Show. THANKs PB-D 🙏🇺🇲
Neil is NOT a scientist, he’s an Entertainer….
The CDC employees didn’t take it. As told by CDC themselves!
Bingo!
It's easier to fool someone than get them to admit they've been fooled.
Facts
Also the smartest people can craft many logics to preserve their bias.
How does that apply here?
Surprising considering the scientific method is to be rigorously skeptical trying to constantly prove things wrong, to make them more valid as a result. Meanwhile scientists buy the news harder than anyone i know.
See religion.
This is a guy who never gets challenged and acts like a little child when he doesn't get his way.
He will not debate anyone without a script.
Don’t forget he’s the front runner for Masonic misinformation/propaganda. he’s literally their self praised “smart” puppet
I never signed a social contract . Globalist thoughts. I'm free, let me take a risk.
Neil is a peddler. Does not follow statistic!!. Really. He belongs on CNN.
Just take the Tuskegee injections, it's mandatory.
I have yet to hear an answer to the great quesion of "If it works, why is you taking it not good enough for you."
Cos it's a virus. Viruses do what viruses do, they mutate.
How do you know it works? It wasnt working in animal trials for 10 years. They brought the experiment to humans despite that; despite knowing it had 20+ adverse conditions, despite it just being gene therapy and not not a traditional RNA vaccine and for only one spike protein. On top of that they tried to fudge data that showed the mortality of the placebo was actually better than those who took the shot. Thats just some of the digging to learn of all the shortcomings of a failed shot, but thats exactly the stuff they tried to hide and wanted to hide for 75 years so that you could simply bow down and buy the rhetoric and slogan of Safe and Effective so you could be just like the lab rats. You guys bought it hook line and sinker without questioning anything. This is the same kind of thinking that went into panic to buy up all the toilet paper i the country instantly. Think before you act. Not everything is as advertised.
The answer to this is widely known, and there are three main reasons:
1. Generally, the only way to stop a significant virus outbreak is for most of the population to gain immunity. There are calculations done during outbreaks to determine the percentage of the population needed to have immunity in order to beat the virus. Without immunity, we sometimes see diseases like measles resurface and spread when a lot of people don’t get vaccinated.
2. Some people who are immunocompromised or have other medical conditions cannot get vaccinated, so we can help protect them by reducing spreadability.
3. Two vaccinated people are much less likely to infect one another than one vaccinated person because vaccines are not 100% effective.
@@metapotamuswhy do you believe this? Look 4 years later after this. It was all a farce for something bigger to come. Why would you believe and put your trust in anyone on such aa high level with little information? This is forcing
I never got COVID at any point up to today, 5/2024. People at my place of employment did for real, and some got it when you got free COVID vacation. If I am not effected by it why should I have to get the vaccine?
As Mike Tyson described Degrass - he is a company man
Uncle Tom
Damn did he?? Damn I wish I can find that.
When??? Like to check that out
@@Luciphers_Workshop in the latest podcast with Graham Hancock
@@guapodel the latest hot boxin podcast with Graham Hancock
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong.”
Great comment
PERFECT
Neil is not listening to his own advice. Science should be open to questions on vaccine safety. Instead, Fauci and his minions squelched any questions about the safety of the vaccines.
The ironic thing is when laymen use this quote against people who are actually highly educated.
@@Notorious1441 Education is no measure of intelligence... Tyson is the poster boy for this atm.
Tyson is promoting the agenta ... Thanks David for standing against that.
It takes 3 to 6 months just to get approval for something as simple as a colour change to tablets. A protocol change is min 6 months.
😂😂😂😂😂 I love how Neil is destroying his career
In 5 years this is all he’ll be remembered for.
He’s been on a sinking ship for a few years now. And to think I use to really like him. Now he annoys me
He just spoke on topic he hasn’t been trained enough on so he got stuck with the canned answer right or wrong I am glad he more skilled on other topics
wild to see Tyson turn to an agent so fast right in front of our eyes.. when you have to scream & interrupt you are losing the argument
he's rightfully frustrated because he's an intelligent man trying to talk sense to a mental midget who's being obtuse
He didn't turn, maybe u just noticed.
He's always been that type of guy..
No your lying
@@Salazarsbizzar what?
I still think this man (Tyson) exemplifies my Dad's favorite saying, "You can have all book smarts in the World, and still not have the sense God gave a pissant."
It’s forced on our children, because if even one parent falls for the lies, then they’ve got your children
I've seen very few people that are more in love with their own opinion this man loves the sound of his own voice
He's the host he should be allowed to speak all he wants.
@@Esus4Hack reply
@@Esus4 uh....op was referring to Neil lmfao
@@DEV3N87 okey dokey
chortle snort guffaw
Neil should have saved us all the time and just said what he means: "Other people don't know how to think, but I do."
He’s a scientist so you have to believe him.
Neil deGrasse is wrong. We all know that the vacine only protects the recipient.
@@noisearchitect well thats what they always said in the past. It protects the recipient.
I'd love to see a conversation with Elon and Neil about vaccines...
No, it is about my rights as an individual. The government is created to protect our rights as individuals.
NGT, "let me finish my sentence." Meanwhile not letting others finish sentences.
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣
black privilege
always
wow
Dumb host has anecdotes and speculation. Public health policy is based on research with large data samples.
Neil: “can you let me finish” while he proceeds to interrupt every sentence. 😂
That was driving me crazy!
He’s used to being practically worshipped. All for studying the work of other people and being in a field that is all but incapable of being falsified.
Its cause he's an N Word
Every single freaking time.
You can actually see him reach for an intelligent answer. I’ve lost a lot of respect for the man.
PDB teaches by example. Calm, cool and collect. Stay on task, stay focused and ask supporting questions. Thanks for another excellent show.
He makes a claim, which gets refuted, he offers no pushback, then asks an unrelated question like “well isn’t that what Americas all about? Freedom?” Then on the heel of that question restates the already refuted claim once again as if it wasn’t just refuted.
This isn’t how an intelligent person argues a point.
His point was that the vaccines weren’t tested enough to fully understand the side effects 3,5,10 years down the road. It’s a very valid point.
@@jasons.7134 Not a valid point because most side affects from vaccines are usually within a few months. That's why anyone that did have a negative reaction happened in a few days or even a week after getting the vaccine. People don't get vaccinated and then ten years later get some disease from it. That doesn't even make any sense.
@@jasons.7134sure and Neil just said that it’s a risk reward decision made with the best available data that you have at the time. Take it or don’t, but if you job says you have to take it for safety, well they have a right to implement that policy, just restaurants that wanted to see your vac card, it’s their private business, they are doing it. The government put out information and urged people to get vaccinated but they did force people into it, I would like to know if there were any lawsuits from people that got fired over it and how they were resolved.
To bad he couldn't be right on his facts. And not use opinions as facts.
Enforcement and coercion in Queensland, Australia. First no jab not job, I decided to give up job; then no jab no health service - I was diagnosed with cancer and desperately needed an operation - had to take the jab, In the triage room I was the only one vaccinated out of four/five patients; waking up in the ward my roommate told me she did not take the e vaccination - we had the same condition and had exact the same operation!!!!! I have been suffered from nerve pain and medicated since then. It is not fair.
I don’t trust anyone who goes from 0-100 when even slightly pressed and still doesn’t directly answer the question.
yeah too bad PBD couldn't answer what is to be done about someone who is risking others by not getting vaccinated..
@@artie218 stop it don’t make me laugh 😂
Liberalism is a mental disorder where emotions rule.
Hes a narcissist
I guess you don't realize that even the vaccinated risk passing covid to both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. The scientists didn't know it at the time, because hardly any studies done, but some highly qualified virologists were saying that it was a likely risk but they were censored and ridiculed. Some even warned that the vaccine could cause many variants to evolve. How can we listen to the science when the science is censored?
This is a prime example of one individual with realism debate vs the other person with emotional debate
For real. Whenever he reacts emotionally it reminds me of when I did so as a child because I had no real argument just a feeling...
Patrick being emotional and the other with data and stats and risk vs reward
@@victorespino5650 oh Victor
If u ever say that better!
@@victorespino5650 yes so much emotion coming from PBD 😂
I mean for anybody that’s going to even think that he’s not lying about that. The trials were conducted and showed it to be safe and efficacious then how can you reconcile that with the fact that when it was given to the whole population, it wasn’t safe or efficacious. It didn’t stop the spread if anything more people were dying.
This all boils down to how much the individual trusts science.
Better questions would have been “was it tested for autoimmune issues”, “was it proven that the spike protein stays at the site of injection “, “ was it proven that you couldn’t pass covid on if you got it” , was it proven there is no impact on the heart”
Spot on , it's the only interview that I felt let down by Patrick, hes normally brilliant at taking apart stories that dont add up
Neil Tyson is an astrophysicist, not an immunologist. Being a scientist, he has no trouble deferring to the expertise of actual medical researchers and professionals, instead of feigning knowledge where he has none.
The goal was to reduce death. Unfortunately the virus kept mutating and what was true for earlier cocid strains isn't true for the newer mutations. But go ahead and ask these questions about contracting covid. Everything has risk
@@tobyforstater7046 That's why there's boosters. Try again.
@@tobyforstater7046 except it was never tested for this and sold as having been.
I didn’t think I could be a bigger fan of PBD than I already was, and yet, the amount of respect I have for such professionalism is inexplicable.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
im under the belief that neither the vaccine nor the virus are as harmful as both sides led us to believe.
Pundits and demagogues on both sides of the spectrum have a vested interest in keeping their followers afraid and hateful towards the opposing side.
Covid has been a blessing for these people! without covid, or the fear of vaccines, many of these pundits would lose thousands or millions of followers.
Pat is one of them. It’s all a cynical ploy for clicks, views and likes on BOTH sides.
PB & J is the best !
Sure is a great interviewer.
But he's been this anti vaccine , kinda right wing " truther " shit.
Today, he repeatedly felt he raised a Trump card, and Neil wonderfully explained that there was nothing he mentioned that was up for debate. These are facts based on the data available .
Neil can you show me where the “Social Construct” part is in the Constitution? Or do I need to be a Scientist with special Scientific Eyes to find it?
For someone who bills himself as a scientist, it is truly remarkable that Tyson takes the democratic position on every issue he discusses. I am not questioning his credentials or intelligence. Clearly he is educated and smart. I am questioning his values and ethics.
Just not his area of study
The only thing that expands faster than the universe is Tyson’ appraisal of his own brilliance.
Neil was bought and payed off a long time ago.
No doubt! Paid mouthpieces
@@CDJF1 You don't actually know that.
why would you assume it is true?
@Joe dirty71 Typical response when you don't have an answer. So, I'll just assume that you have no idea either.
Lol
Neil saying "let me finish the sentence" might be the most hilarious thing I have ever heard.
Let me finish my speech!
“Let me finish the sentence” *long pause while he tries to figure out how to extend his sentence* 🤣
Especially since he would not let Pat finish..lol
Wait while i brainfart this historical example everyone. Guy loves the sound of his own voice. I dont like your voice fat dude.
@@blacksheepdog9810 lol
One of my employers made me take covid testing for literally every week for almost 2 years, I felt like all my friends and family had stopped taking or have been required to test 6-8 months earlier. I am more worried about the chemicals or long term effects of the chemicals for those nose swabs. I literally had 200 or more of those things up my nose as we were regularly required to test 2 even 3 times per week. It was either test or you couldn't work.
I get what he's saying about dealing with only data. What about what happened after we had enough data to know what risk group you were in, but you were still told you knew nothing and were forced to do things?
His hysterical style and effort to speak down on folk is the big tell.
Go watch the episode of Carl Sagan's Cosmos where Sagan is teaching a class of school kids about the planets and moons in our solar system... then watch Neil do any interview with anyone xD
The difference is night and day.
Carl Sagan was the Rolls Royce of science communicators and he was a great humanist.
How this Neil guy was ever considered his protege, is an ongoing mystery to me lol
"You don't have the right to contaminate someone else."
"Says who?"
It's not his job to pamper someone giving answers like that. You think he's "hysterical," but were I in Mr. Tyson's shoes, I'd just start throwing hands on the endless horde of Autozone cashiers and Uber Eats drivers trying to lecture me on what an acceptable scientific process would be.
@@BigZach77 lol what does Tyson know about acceptable scientific process? He's a science communicator.. he's not doing hard science.
Point us to any peer reviewed scientific work that the guy has released.
Edit: One thing the AutoZone cashier or Uber driver would have going for them is, at least they'd have enough common sense not to pretend they're experts in topics related to biology / immunology / virology and the pharmaceutical industrial complex.
@@scroopynooperz9051 That's literally exactly what every boob on social media thinks and pretends to be, slick: experts on how to handle everything, especially a worldwide pandemic. That they know more about science than "scientists."
Case in point: "lol what does Tyson know about acceptable scientific process?". Even if you try to insult him with the "science communicator" title, still 100,000x more than you, myself, and the grand majority of people who like to dogpile on anyone who knows more than them. I don't pretend I'm an expert on subjects I'm not an expert on, let alone against someone that either is, or is a hell of a lot closer to one than I am.
@@BigZach77 lol lets not choke on that Tyson D TOO hard.. ya might get lockjaw there Tex.
And my field is computer science, while Tyson's is physics (or astrophysics). Naturally, my expertise and his diverges - that's how this works. I would know more than him given certain subjects, and he would know more on that which relates to classical theoretical and applied physics..
Neither of us is an expert biologist, virologist or immunologist. Thus given those topics, we should defer to those experts. To speak with confidence about biology, would be to commit intellectual dishonesty.
Also, the experts in those fields were still having a hearty debate on the efficacy of those experimental vaccines as opposed to say, letting natural immunity run its course.
The experts who were urging vaccine caution though... they were unceremoniously and suspiciously neutered on public platforms.
I'll let you in on a secret - no part of the scientific method revolves around "dont ask questions, just trust me bro".
When the "science" involves being cagey about sharing pertinent data, and censoring contrarian expert voices, you can be sure you're being sold a bag of d!cks masquerading as science.
I like how much Neil has historically complained about the imbalance of power that businesses have; But has no issue imposing that power on citizens within a country.
Yes, because he's a utter hypocrite
He is complete defender for the state
COVID vaccines are 'Capitalism', snowflake - private industry solving a problem and making money from the solution. But the people who got you vaccinated don't want you to support "Socialized Medicine"....
Dang you just explained women
Even he has a mini tyrannt living in his head. Under the right conditions, he too, could round up people he thinks are low information.
If this was during polio, we can clearly see who would be naturally selected against! Smdhi hope something doesnt come up that will have these people swallowing their antivax words
I’m not sure how me being forced to be a test subject and have some sort of chemical injected into my body is the same as a McDonald’s worker being legally forced to wash their hands before handling my food.
Loool
well that escalated quickly
Actually an apt analogy. If you don't follow the company's rules you get shit canned. Nothing new. The rules can be completely arbitrary. Nobody owes you a job. Most states are at-will employment so you can be shit canned at any time for any reason or for no reason at all. It's funny how a bunch of people are only now coming to discover this after workers' rights were systematically destroyed by corporate-funded politicians over the course of many decades
Because they are both measures of securing public health in terms of removing people from categories that make them much more likely to live less longer. This is why you shit in a toilet when you go out to eat and not on a table. It’s not safe for you or I to eat next to your shit that is resting on the table. That simple enough for you to understand?
It is the same thing. You do not have the right to infect others. Its that simple. You want to not vaccinate ? Sure but you are not working till things calm down.
Let me make a correction. Food service workers are legally required to wash their hands but no one is standing there watching them and forcing them to do it or provide proof. Businesses and the government were requiring proof. HUGE difference.
I used to think Neil was cool, you know, calm and collected type. This interview opens my eyes. Thank you Mr. Bet-David.
He’s an ideologue like many of them
Tyson acting like this makes me question his every opinion about the cosmos that he’s spewed. He’s what I like to call an overly educated idiot.
He was cool but fell into the media trap. There’s more money to be made if you go rogue. Look at Joe Rogan. His political views shifted drastically so he could generate more views.
Such a big disappointment! I won't ever watch a video his anymore.
They should bring bill nye the science guy
Bill, bill, bill, bill, bill nye the science guy
A year later NDT is confirmed wrong in basically every way the more data comes out and the more doctors come forward
The point is simple. If there was a lot of unknowns with the vaccines due to its fast paced release which justifies giving people CHOICE! If you didn't want people to have a choice then you should have insured them against all vaccine related longterm risks.
I have never seen anyone with more conviction and excitement to add absolutely zero value to a conversation. 😂
On god, Neil made valid point and the other guys was like no your wrong and I know stats I watch the NBA likeee bro wtf. Also there is a lack of understanding there around the actual trials of MRNA vaccines and how they work. Met with the guy who helped to create the technology and mannnn he should get a Nobel prize.
Brain washed sheep bro that’s how they are
It takes a lot of energy to try to communicate a thought to a right winger. And yes, you’re right it always has zero effect because the Sean Hannity brainwashing in their brain is too strong to accept actual facts and logic.
@@nicholasas7786 you sound like a diversity hire, just like Tyson 👍
@Nicholasas Keep up with the news dude. All the Pharma "vaccine" manufacturers have been found to have held back their studies' information that showed critical negative data that would have kept the jabs from being authorized. Plus, the African continent had a 6% vaccination rate and yet they're no longer dealing with COVID outbreaks. Get informed dude.
i've never had debt not taking that shot has put me in debt. However we're forgiving student loans
Bet-David is the next Alex Jones
Everyone should find someone who loves them as much as Neil deGrasse Tyson loves the sound of his own voice.
Haha, epic comment
Nice
To be fair his voice is normally soothing af lol
Yep. Legend in his own mind.
Tyson kept saying “hold on, let me finish” while he continually cut the interviewer off every single question.
He continuously did the same thing to Joe Rogan, it got so annoying I couldn't finish the podcast!
It's because Tyson was trying to say your personal freedoms end where safety begins.
In other words, you do get freedom of choice. What you don't get is the freedom to put other lives at risk.
There was a case where a guy knew he had aids...but infected others thru sex. This is loosely linked to that: "Man jailed for life after deliberately infecting men with HIV
‘Predatory’ Daryll Rowe found guilty of grievous bodily harm after transmitting virus to five partners."
Sound like he keep asking the same question
Patrick never let him finish his argument.
@@gregyoung7986 yeah except now they are back tracking and saying the vaccine only lessens your own symptoms, not the spread
Never argue with a smart person unless you want to learn.
By that logic in the U.S. TV viewers is about 86% of the total population, hence watching TV is forced and not a choice. 😂
I'd pay good money to watch Neil interview himself, just to see how Neil interrupts himself & not able to interrupt himself at the same time
Never liked this guy, now I hate him. Absolute joke!!!!!
Lol
🤣🙏
See how mad Neil would get when called out…Was kind of weird u ask me ! Definitely a symptom of narcissism..
@@BGCDOG Neil USED to be a great ambassador for science in general, but especially astronomy, for kids.
He could explain complex phenomenon in a simple, charming, and easy to understand way - and he came across as a likable guy
That was his success. But over the last few years, he's really become quite the irritant to work with. Always interrupting others, arguing, getting defensive, and hijacking the conversation.
I have a gut feeling he won't be the 'face of science for kids' for much longer.
Left a fantastic legacy, but unless he goes back to his roots & shakes the chip off his shoulder - someone else will fill that role
My 0.02 cents
How does the saying go, "it takes a lifetime to build a reputation and one moment to destroy it". Nice work Patrick.
Niels #1 refrain: "You dont have the right to infect others. Go live alone on a beach if you want to be unvaccinated". How about "you dont have the right to force others to be vaccinated or isolated. YOU go live alone on the beach if you dont want to be infected".
Why should Neils reputation be destroyed? Because he disagrees with you in ONE thing?
@@roketynoramallorca2882yeah his reputation as an astrophysicist is completely destroyed now that he has a different interpretation of the risk assessments in dealing with COVID
@@roketynoramallorca2882 how come black people dont thank whites for slavery? We forced them to become taller and stronger than whites by selective breeding and culling the weak. They are better than they were back in africa, thanks to us. Now they dominate Sportsball games because of it. They are beloved and celebrated as heroes through sportsball. They are wealthy and happy. And yet they still say we owe them something. We brought the strong Neo-African to life.
@@neglectfulsausage7689 What the heck are you talking about???? 🙂
What to say to the dead who took it in good faith?, also the attacks on doctors who spok against it, threatened wiih 5 years jail? Proved to be lie.😢
It’s great to question your actions. It’s not great to risk others lives because you’re still questioning.🧐
So much for this guy 😆 I don't think he's been right about anything anymore.
Awww...because he doesn't fit your political ideology 😂 amazing
I agree. Tyson gives you the "science" you pay for. He's not a scientist, he's a whore.
@@paulrobles4456 Gotta love how proudly they shout-out their programming.
@@paulrobles4456 no because the dumbass tried to say a vaccine tested for months is safe😂😂😂
Pharmaceutical bootlicker
alert!!!!
The only scientist who never debate other scientist
Sounds like you’re a Neil Tyson expert. Now statistically speaking how true is your statement?
@@gerk7238 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🙄🤯
Speechless 🤐
The strain evolved my ass!!! Pfizer literally said to the European Union that they never did testing to see if you could spread covid with the vaccine. This guy is a joke🤬
@@gerk7238 99.9%
A social contract? I haven’t signed any contract.
Start by looking up the definition of social contract. When you think you said something smart...
@biggy3rd you're wasting your breath on these people bro
@@biggy3rdThere is no social contract, Tyson lied.
Ever here of an unwritten rule. It's kind of like having common sense. 😊@maxstrike3022
Do you work in a hospital or nursing home. ???
Neal is more concerned with proving he is right than with the actual truth.
Tyson didnt sell out, he was always propped up exactly because he follows the narrative
Just like bill nye
Yeah. He’s always been a sellout
@@spicemarine1884 I know right, I can't believe how many people believe Nye and Tyson's Darwinian evolution.
@@spicemarine1884 Bill Nye and his bowtie is on their own level.
He shits on the legacy of Carl Sagan.
So he's saying he was looking at the fake data for cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.
Genius
This.
It's useless to cite statistics when they have been manipulated.
what fake data?
It's astounding how someone will fight for their incorrect, uninformed position on a topic. Some people don't even understand what freedom is. They confuse it with absolute sovereignty, even where their decisions will negatively impact others. It's a very selfish and childlike stance.
The interviewee is patient man.
Neil is so emotional about it that he's literally shaking
Literally!
Neil is shitting his pants
He's got My-o-full of crap dious
I like when NdG wanted to link alcohol consumption to heart disease and then realized it could be used to argue against lockdown measures. He backed right out of that one! Great job here by PBD - when a charlatan is speaking - let them speak. His hands were shaking like crazy...
Were that true, there would be no increase in deaths of people below drinking age....spoilers..
@@alandockrill4924 exactly.
Well PBD was suggesting that it was due to the vaccine, yet Neil listed all the other things it could be and PBD agreed, so I'm not sure how you say Neil looked bad in that exchange, instead of PBD.
@@pj256 Patrick said it COUlD be due to the vaccine. The vaccine shill said impossible.
Timestamp?
Low mortality rate. Information which came in January of 2020 before all the panic surrounding that glorified cough came about