Respect to both of these guys. Both spent their lives helping people, quiet down keyboard warriors. Great podcast and big thank you to both especially the former cop for his hard work.
No clash of authorities were in play there as Ant didn't have any authority in the situation. He was mouthing off to the cop about why the other group was still there. The question was, why was he and his mates still there? Ant deserved everything and more than he got and the incident shed light on the many claims that are around that suggest he has an issue with his ego.
After 34 years in the job, Jubelin quit the police force last year, tendering his resignation before he was charged with illegally recording four conversations with Savage during the Tyrrell investigation. And we still don't know were little William Tyrrell is or who took him. I don't blame him for trying everything to find that little boy and catch his killer.
There was more to it. I know some of the other detectives on this case. The ones who have a different story to tell about Gary Jubelin - but they won’t make it all public because it helps no one. Gary is the hero done wrong - yeah OK. But there is more to it.
@@dejavoue88what we gonna do without police? You think because a small amount of them are degenerates or even some racist you think you're being mature by saying that.
shame on former UKSF. This situaton should never have happened in the first place. Tries to justify his actions. He let the UKSF community down big time. Sad. Not the first and will not be the last.
Wonder how many other SF boys from other countries have messed up once in a while....sure Ant ain't the only one...he only let himself down NOT the UKSF FFS!
You’re hearing a break down of the details and telling yourself (and others) that what he’s doing is attempting to justify what he did. He’s clearly taken/taking responsibility for what he’s done. He’s human.
People in the comments are saying "he assaulted a female officer as well". Reminds me of that Joker quote; "if a truck load of soldiers blows up, nobody cares. But If I say one woman will die, everyone loses their minds." No offence, Ant should've walked away, but also the female officer chose to be a cop.
As an ex-bootneck myself I understand Ants situation because I’ve had those conflicts with police. He got the unprofessional Uber ego scumbag cop that the police are full of now.
And ? If you're a woman police officer on the front line dealing with this issue most weeks. You're going to get a slap. Man or woman. That's just the way it is. He's done the time and apologised FFS. His military service far outweighs what he did I'm sorry.
Yes. There is a little bit more to it than just a good cop being run out of the force for telling the truth. Kudos to you - most people don’t see this.
Even now, both these lads are not taking responsibility for their actions. You were both in the wrong. Drop ur oversized ego and get on with it. You are both no better than common thugs
A clash of authority indicates you think you had some type of authority in that situation,thats where you went wrong....BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T!! Where you were 6 months ago is irrelevant,you are now simply a civilian so the policeman had authority over you so you might aswel ditch that clash of authority buisness out the window my friend!😂
He's saying he's used to having authority not that he had authority in this situation. He recognises he was wrong and said it's difficult to turn the switch off, which I expect it is. I've got a few friends in the forces and they all struggle in normal life to a point.
@@markburton8303 thats not what he said,that's your words. "His" words were it was a clash of authority,referring to that particular situation,but in that situation he had zero authority. I might have previously been a chef,but if I walk into another chefs kitchen,I can't try and take control of the kitchen,but if I did it wouldn't be a clash of chef's, it would be an ex chef not knowing his place in an actual chef's kitchen.
@@londongunner1 obviously you cant take control. I've just listened to it and that's what they said - it's hard to let go of authority. Ant has had authority, and its hard to let go (especially considering what he has done in the past) and obviously led to the situation here as he has no authority in civvy street, as you point out. It's pretty easy to understand imo
@@markburton8303 its not an understanding problem,its a misuse of words. The word authority means....... the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience. If I usually have some sort of power over people weather that be inside my house within my family circle,or within my workplace where I am the manager;they are the places where I have authority. If I then come into contact with the police,at that point I have ZERO authority over them,therefore no clash of authority can occur other than in my own head. His choice of words should were incorrect,plain and simple. But im sure he'll be happy that someone he doesn't know is debating on his behalf.
Once you're clearly on cctv there's no point in running. They will get you eventually one way or another. Would of been better to sit there and wait and face the consequences of your actions. It's inevitable.
I agree, "... those with authority need to check themselves". In my words, "have themselves regulated", "kept in check" if you may. Who better to do that than the Creator. His Precepts, Principles and Processes are documented in the Bible.🙏🏾
I've read a quote from the female officer saying she thought he'd killed the male cop when he threw him to the ground. So there was definitely a bloke that got assaulted in there somewhere.
Dumbest stuff ever. As a soldier you are used to following orders and complying with folks like all the time. If he can listen to people and follow orders in the military without throwing hands, wy can't he do it when talking to a cop. He also threw a punch after the guy poked him in the chest. It makes zero sense to do that.
Who are you? I agree the Police aren't what they used to be, I was a Policeman 30 years ago and believe me 30 years ago you would not have lasted 5 minutes. You have no, and never had, any authority over anybody.
ive never been in the military but i think the complete opposite u have to have no ego at all to be that disciplined but after he left hes had so much praise so i think thats whats done it
Funny..as soon as theres a fight..outside..not involving him..he goes straight outside...but says...I didn't wanna get involved 😮 So why go outside then?? Not impressed
Respect to both of these guys. Both spent their lives helping people, quiet down keyboard warriors. Great podcast and big thank you to both especially the former cop for his hard work.
Man you’re 💯 right mate. A lotta people in this comment section just complaining
@@jameszbierski391 exactly too much negativity towards these guys just for sharing their stories.
Just do some research on “how helpful” some of these really are. If you know you know.
@@Maxiey1 thank you for your comment
Humility, "... I shouldn't have done it". That's a man taking accountability. Salute to Mr. Middleton.
No. He is former Regiment. No excuse.
@KernowekTim We have all done things we shouldn't have done.
Accountability is accepting one made the mistake.
There is a 3 letter word that summerizes " Clash of Authority " =. EGO.
I believe the most important training for police is EGO DE-ESCALATION.
@@TwoHemiViewer well said sir ,
100% agree - lose the vice of ego and anger and none of this would have occurred.
EGO is not BAD cause EGO is YOU.
EGO'S DESVIATIONS ARE BAD, NOT EGO.
You accept what's mostly false like common true cause you're ignorant.
His service far outweighs this minor mishap!
No clash of authorities were in play there as Ant didn't have any authority in the situation. He was mouthing off to the cop about why the other group was still there. The question was, why was he and his mates still there? Ant deserved everything and more than he got and the incident shed light on the many claims that are around that suggest he has an issue with his ego.
Drink
The copper shouldn't have assaulted him.
Ant you are a ledgend !! I dont care what they say you do. A real bloke in action. NZ
After 34 years in the job, Jubelin quit the police force last year, tendering his resignation before he was charged with illegally recording four conversations with Savage during the Tyrrell investigation. And we still don't know were little William Tyrrell is or who took him. I don't blame him for trying everything to find that little boy and catch his killer.
There was more to it. I know some of the other detectives on this case. The ones who have a different story to tell about Gary Jubelin - but they won’t make it all public because it helps no one. Gary is the hero done wrong - yeah OK. But there is more to it.
Love you Ant, you are the man.
He assaulted a Police Woman. This is a matter of public record. Sorry to let the truth get in the way of the story...
and your point is ?
@@dejavoue88wake up to yourself
@@tyzon00800 I actually wake up to myself every morning.. But so what he hit a copper. No big deal.
Your a liar
@@dejavoue88what we gonna do without police? You think because a small amount of them are degenerates or even some racist you think you're being mature by saying that.
Some coppers are straight up bullies.
Most are, they proved that during the scamdemic
Police are like a necessary evil in a way.
@@YeOldeFatBadger totally and now there screaming for fair pay 💰 they all sold out to labour during Covid and now deserve nothing
shame on former UKSF. This situaton should never have happened in the first place. Tries to justify his actions. He let the UKSF community down big time. Sad. Not the first and will not be the last.
Wonder how many other SF boys from other countries have messed up once in a while....sure Ant ain't the only one...he only let himself down NOT the UKSF FFS!
Correct.
You’re hearing a break down of the details and telling yourself (and others) that what he’s doing is attempting to justify what he did. He’s clearly taken/taking responsibility for what he’s done. He’s human.
Should have just wrote a book hey.
This cop is full of it and Ant has a massive ego.
Police have the biggest ego's of all.
This guy remembers alot considering he said hed been drinking all day....
People in the comments are saying "he assaulted a female officer as well".
Reminds me of that Joker quote; "if a truck load of soldiers blows up, nobody cares. But If I say one woman will die, everyone loses their minds."
No offence, Ant should've walked away, but also the female officer chose to be a cop.
I love Ant. He's the real deal.
So imagine being in Afghanistan and being told what to do. Other peoples shoes... Try wearing them
As an ex-bootneck myself I understand Ants situation because I’ve had those conflicts with police. He got the unprofessional Uber ego scumbag cop that the police are full of now.
One was sober the other was under the influence.
@@johnmitchell2269 yes it’s amazing that a sober cop can’t control himself and act professionally.
@@edwindude9893 You realise he neglected to mention the part where he assaulted another cop, a female cop, right?
@@johnmitchell2269yep, I wondered why that wasn't mentioned as well
@@johnmitchell2269 don’t bring gender into 2023 equality is gender less .
Cop says authority when he really means 'ego'.
He has seen it on cctv
Ant middleton is a out and out lier, based in poole dorset for years, ask him about the police woman he punched.
Haha he didnt punch her ffs
And ?
If you're a woman police officer on the front line dealing with this issue most weeks. You're going to get a slap. Man or woman. That's just the way it is. He's done the time and apologised FFS. His military service far outweighs what he did I'm sorry.
He assaulted a female cop as well, conveniently omitted that detail
and ?
There is no difference between a male & female cop.Both get paid the same
How can it be a clash of authority when the law has the authority... ?
But why was there a fight outside? Why even get involved?
Because he seems to believe that he has the authority to do so. He doesn’t.
His book says different! He said he punched a Police women and then had red mist ! Worrying he struggles to control his aggression
wonder we he doesnt say that it was 2 police officers he assaulted and one was a woman
Maybe women shouldn't be front line officers then. Because this is what happens.
Imprisoned for impersonating Rylan ?
So how did Ant get his citizenship in Aust.?
Thats a really good question can't even look at oz from the uk it you have a criminal record
Now I see why Jubelin was kicked out of the cops.
Yes. There is a little bit more to it than just a good cop being run out of the force for telling the truth. Kudos to you - most people don’t see this.
Im my day you would be RTUD. Very very rare SF do what he did.
Aye. Done with.
Says he was alcohol fuelled but remembers every little detail....Well his version snyway
You failed escape an evade cos you stopped an hid! Never stop while being pursued (top tip coming from up top😂😂🥃🥃
Even now, both these lads are not taking responsibility for their actions. You were both in the wrong. Drop ur oversized ego and get on with it. You are both no better than common thugs
He held his hands up did his time dusted his hands and moved on like a BOSS
They served their country and their community. More than a lot of others have.
Drop your anonymity and tell it to his face cowboy
@Rusty.Mountain.Biking Not true, the officer he attacked was male. The second officer 'assaulted' was female, but it was... verbal.
He did say several times he shouldn't have done it
‘A clash of authority’. Ant needs to realise that he has no authority over other people.
@ Maybe over you. Not over me.
@ I am Australian. I assure you Ant Middleton has no author over me. Soldiers having authority over civilians though ? I am not sure about that.
A clash of authority indicates you think you had some type of authority in that situation,thats where you went wrong....BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T!! Where you were 6 months ago is irrelevant,you are now simply a civilian so the policeman had authority over you so you might aswel ditch that clash of authority buisness out the window my friend!😂
He's saying he's used to having authority not that he had authority in this situation. He recognises he was wrong and said it's difficult to turn the switch off, which I expect it is. I've got a few friends in the forces and they all struggle in normal life to a point.
@@markburton8303 thats not what he said,that's your words. "His" words were it was a clash of authority,referring to that particular situation,but in that situation he had zero authority. I might have previously been a chef,but if I walk into another chefs kitchen,I can't try and take control of the kitchen,but if I did it wouldn't be a clash of chef's, it would be an ex chef not knowing his place in an actual chef's kitchen.
@@londongunner1 obviously you cant take control. I've just listened to it and that's what they said - it's hard to let go of authority. Ant has had authority, and its hard to let go (especially considering what he has done in the past) and obviously led to the situation here as he has no authority in civvy street, as you point out. It's pretty easy to understand imo
@@markburton8303 its not an understanding problem,its a misuse of words. The word authority means....... the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience. If I usually have some sort of power over people weather that be inside my house within my family circle,or within my workplace where I am the manager;they are the places where I have authority. If I then come into contact with the police,at that point I have ZERO authority over them,therefore no clash of authority can occur other than in my own head. His choice of words should were incorrect,plain and simple. But im sure he'll be happy that someone he doesn't know is debating on his behalf.
No cop has authority over anyone until that person breaks a specific law. Go bootlick somewhere else.
I will say it again the Policemen was on duty this guy is a total egomiester. Built himself up, full of the shots. Grow up man!
It was a clash of authority and it turned out I don't have any... The guy's a squeaky little narcissist
Basically Army man thought he was above the police because he was an Army man and couldn’t handle somebody not taking his orders
Got the same story as me
Once you're clearly on cctv there's no point in running. They will get you eventually one way or another. Would of been better to sit there and wait and face the consequences of your actions. It's inevitable.
You see it on the TV female SF it's a fair process.
ant is a really mature man
Everyone pretending their so squeaky clean. He got his punishment through uk legal system. Why do people still wanna punish him?
everything is fake here .imagine speaking to an ex cop
A corrupt 1
Yea that's drinking all day for you
With a chip on both.
❤ Ant ❤
Power only corrupts a weak mind Gary
🙄 egotistic narcissist.
Bad decision maker in civilian arena. Let the Regiment down.
Did you cops play with each other's doodle out on the road 😂
I agree, "... those with authority need to check themselves". In my words, "have themselves regulated", "kept in check" if you may. Who better to do that than the Creator. His Precepts, Principles and Processes are documented in the Bible.🙏🏾
Oh take your make believe fairytale book and go away
@@tomarnold2202 Why do you surmize as much? May I know how you arrived at this conclusion?
@@charlesopuoro5295 The onus is on you to prove any creator exists, since you mooted that one does originally.
@@timothydraper6626 Of course every house is constructed by someone. He who constructed all things is God. 🙏🏾
It was a police woman he assaulted not a police man. Perspective
Liar
Men or women it dont matter what gender, dude still assaulted a person
I've read a quote from the female officer saying she thought he'd killed the male cop when he threw him to the ground. So there was definitely a bloke that got assaulted in there somewhere.
Dumbest stuff ever.
As a soldier you are used to following orders and complying with folks like all the time.
If he can listen to people and follow orders in the military without throwing hands, wy can't he do it when talking to a cop.
He also threw a punch after the guy poked him in the chest. It makes zero sense to do that.
Better buckled than liquidated.
Was he kicked out of SB for this?
Power corrupts. Well you'd know wouldn't you Gary.
Ego 😂😂😂
Cops love provoking situations
How old is he? Seventeen?
Who are you? I agree the Police aren't what they used to be, I was a Policeman 30 years ago and believe me 30 years ago you would not have lasted 5 minutes. You have no, and never had, any authority over anybody.
A proud man is what he is, understand, don’t condemn, coppers are trivial to a man like him, don’t be jealous
Ant your full to the brim with conya🎉
You have to have a big ego to be a special forces soldier.
You have to think that you are better than death for your own survival.
ive never been in the military but i think the complete opposite u have to have no ego at all to be that disciplined but after he left hes had so much praise so i think thats whats done it
make love not war
Stop using the silly term clash of authority... its the vice of ego and anger!
Funny..as soon as theres a fight..outside..not involving him..he goes straight outside...but says...I didn't wanna get involved 😮 So why go outside then?? Not impressed
1 word
Ego
The cop was on duty
So a woman pointing your chest..l understand l had Thai moleeee punch me in the chest.
We cant do that
I’d like to ask … at any point did you tell them you were X. SAS ?
Perhaps the would have a little respect
I would
He was SBS
@@johnlangdon7576 both wasnt he?
@babito808 I think he was in the army Royal Engineers and did P Coy, then left rejoined as Royal Marines then did selection as badged as SBS
Still bragging there bloke. Your not thst good mate.
Borstal boy
Clown
People here dont know the real story. He didnt punch her at all. She got 'injured' in the melee. Ffs
W⚓️
Fraud V Fake
How's that ?
Who's fake?
This country needs to look after this good fella London 2024 south
It was a wpc female 😂