Michael Jai White Has To STOP Talking About Shaolin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Michael Jai White has made two interviews where he spreads a lot of misinformation about the Shaolin temple and Shaolin Culture. It's very unfortunate to see somebody with his name recognition and his martial arts background talk about Shaolin in this way. I dont want these videos to flaot around TH-cam, without someone setting the record straight. Enjoy and Share!
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just curious during your time in a shaolin temple what was the sparring like if you had any in the shaolin temple
basically trying to say what type a flow it had your experience how you think it feels
compared to what i had from movement in capoeira where i see it as a "rhytm dance" (beginner at it) other than trying to think a chess game sport fight
other sports bbj wrestling that i dont
feel anything yet beside chest game
Why are you criticizing ignorant people when you yourself don't understand the purpose of shaolin
@@maximkikena622 are you serious? He was there for 3 years! How many years were you there huh?? Smh
As an *AMERICAN* I know it's none of our business, but I pray to God that CHINA does *NOT* invade Taiwan. They have been an independent nation and they're citizens have much better freedom and liberties than the Chinese citizens. It's just wrong that the Chinese government interferes with the nations in the South China Sea. 😠
I wish people would just say "I don't know enough about this topic to have an opinion".
Ignorance is bliss.
I don't know enough about blood transfusion to have an opinion therefore I won't criticise religious retards saying it's bad.
I don't know enough about soviet russia dictatorship to have an opinion about them killing 60 milion people.
I wish people would just go "I'm about to read something and learn and in the process form my opinion based on facts and not shit I have heard from other people."
Birds aren’t real nixon killed them all n then Reagan installed cameras in them
I wish people would understand that you don't need to know a lot about a topic to form an opinion.
"What do you think of [...]"
"I don't."
The moral of this story is:
Think, twice.
Speak once.
If only most would take this advice.
@@reficul1984
In due time, the lucky ones do.
As for the others, well... they never made it past their own ego and low self-esteem.
@@Kolestarol this is a rule my mom taught me. Only speak if you have something worth saying.
@@reficul1984Wise words, and even wiser are those who chose to listen instead of enrolling in the School of Poor Judgement and Bad Decisions.
As they say, it's always better to be mistaken as an idiot, than to prove the fact beyond all doubt.
Thats kinda good for a shirt dawg lol
Damn man, this is like getting called out by your English teacher for making up some bs in your essay.
Big respect, I see you in all kinds of comment sections. I see you're well cultured though lmao
Big facts
If anybody going to read the History Michael Jai White was right The Shaolin Monks was wiped out in the 1600s
@@kennethscott621 the temple has been destroyed and rebuilt several times over the centuries. What Michael Jai White was referring to, was the decimation of the Ming Shaolin Army. Some monks survived and came back to rebuild.
Damn, I just wrote an essay and put some bs in there cuz I couldn't find some info. It was just a bit but still
“You can google this shit”
“Indeed, why didn’t you?”
Is such a simple, effective, and powerful response
Bread is a conspiracy made by bread companies to sell more bread
Obama shaped earth is actually real
Shit ur right
@@onirione globama
Yoooooo 😲
Do you know how many conspiracies bread is related to
Michael Jai White: *Talks about anything related to shaolin culture*
RANTON: _The ability to speak does not make you intelligent_
@ given to him by mike perry
Novabow John Mivule I’ve seen so many of your comments
Yoo Hoo Not sure if you misspelled “unsheathes” or if that’s somehow a slick reference to a KKK member pulling the N-word pass from their white sheets. If it’s the latter case, then you might be a literary genius.
MEESA CALLED JAI WHITE BINKS
Despair City sore*
I like how serious he becomes when talking about shaolin culture
Wouldn't you? Shaolin culture has become part of Ranton's life which is understandable why he goes into that "defence" mode with serious intention. I mean it's the same if someone tried to claim on TH-cam that my country's culture is fake or something.
It's just funny cause he goes from memeing gamer crackhead. Then goes to Chinese Shoalin news correspondent
Samfis he isnt judging it he is simply stating
Samfis he even started with I like
Well it is a serious matters
This is the danger in casually discussing history and pontificating inaccurate information. The internet will assume you are an expert and wash, rinse, repeat. Thank you for fact checking.
word, I thought the wu tang clan was the last of the Shaolin... glad I aint say that online.
I’m 1 minute in and this dude was wrong in literally his first correction🤣 Michael jai white talks about the time the temple was burned in 1647 and then this guy completely ignores it and talks about something completely unrelated in the 20th century🤣
@@zacharyberry5019 Its like saying kfc ended when they changed the recipe the first time and then someone else rants it ended when they changed it the second time....LOL
@@bulletclub4life except a more accurate representation would be if they executed and banished all the original people who knew the first recipe for 3 centuries until someone wanted to make a new recipe
The danger of dissecting interviews. The internet will try to get brownie points from short clips that they don't even accurately correct.
"you dont see monks in cars"
is he expecting monks to always wear monk attire?
Most of the mainstream monks do always wear monk attire. And yes, monks nowadays do drive and sit in cars / planes etc. How else would Buddhist monks travel to spread the teachings?
The literal symbol of the Buddhist Teaching is an eight-spoked wheel, symbolizing the path and its missionary zeal.
White expects Shaolin monks to be able to fly
Well, it's rare to see a monk point a gun at me for not playing *_Doom Eternal_*
@@CCPJAYLPHAN1994 no it symbolizes the rad 8-bladed spinners on the wheels of their car
Orthodox: allow us to introduse ourselves
I hate when someone don’t know what they talking bout but say it with all the confidence in the world. But I love when someone calls out how wrong they are
hnt _TRAE only shows how wrong yourselves is, ppl always trynna correct others it shows much of oneself. Judgin others is a poison!
@@blu3niverse536 I think you're missing the point. Someone spreading misinformation should be called out for the benefit of all. It's not about judging the person, but their actions or words in this case. Challenging opposing views or having our views challenged is indeed an opportunity to refine our ideas.
In this case, how can you say they're wrong? They are stating how they feel about this ('I hate', 'I love'), they aren't otherwise making claims about reality. Furthermore, aren't you guilty of the same thing you are condemning here by 'judging' hnt_TRAE to be wrong, telling them it reflects on who they are, and correcting them by saying they shouldn't judge others? This is hypocrisy.
Yojimbo the Scoundrel Damn he actually just made him sit the fuck down
Reminds me of The Verge PC build video that all PC channels collectively shit on.
like the dude in this video not having a clue what he's talking about!
I love it when a person is able to judge something fairly, like what you said “stop idealising, stop slandering”
I love how you defend shaolin culture, it shows that you still hold it dear to your heart. Also love your reviews, your comedy is new and fresh love you rantoni
Little Bitch is right. I fully agree. It's also a sign of integrity how you're able to criticise what ought to be criticised.
We are blessed to have you Ranton.
I agree my brother showed me Rantons youtube channel and i fell in love with his content and Ranton made me laugh so much keep up the great work!
@@andrea_7194 what the??....oh yeah thats her name my bad.
Hard to believe that ranton was apart of a shaolin temple. Considering how cracked he is in his reviews.
Damn that there little bitch is right
This was great criticism of Michael's claims while not being at all disrespectful. Good job, Rantoni
Go read a quick Google search of the history in the 1600s in the Shaolin Temple and monks was wiped out
@@kennethscott621 and?
@@kennethscott621 monastic orders like these don't go extinct. They simply rebuild and continue with their tradition (practicing martial arts & buddhism). There is no 'authority' to dictate how a monastery should be run. I thought he explained this very clearly.
Nero Cumberbatch
The title is plenty disrespectful though. Funny thing is he's basically nitpicking the whole time. Just cause he got a few things half wrong or said things that weren't even damaging misinformation he needs to stop talking about it? Mostly a pointless video.
@@Scoring57 How though?
His clout got to him, and he all of sudden thinks he can say whatever he wants, and it's save face too. I don't see why you're defending MJW, I'm a fan too, but he sounds stupid af.
We got a black man acting like he's an expert on Chinese culture, when he's wrong on many account, and got some stuff right, a chinese guy calls him out and that's disrespectful?
Jeremy Lin got dreads and half your community took offense.
This guy basically makes some of his movies based on Asian culture and when he acts like he's all of a sudden an expert when he just knows some stuff, they can't call him out? He's basically appropriating Chinese culture.
I'm not making this about race, but I'm just saying, aren't you a bit bias maybe because you probably just see race, maybe because you're not looking at this outside of being too hard a fanboy? Whatever it is you missed the whole point, you got mad before it even started, obviously clouding your judgement. You sound more hurt about him telling the actor to not talk about it because it's not related to you, than listening to the whole point of the video.
But I bet you would be more verbal if it's related to misinformation about your culture.
Hey, if MJW, was an expert in Chinese Culture, for sure bud. But he ain't. He has a lot of clout, people will believe what he say.
If we have an Asian or White man who is just as famous, saying shit like this too about your culture, you'd try to correct them too, and say something like that too, that they need to chill and stop acting like they're some expert, especially when they're an actor who will influence others for sure, thus some form of misinformation will spread.
It's a no brainer, but guess you only see colors, because why wouldn't you, a grown man not see it.
Like, we all know shaolin monks taught the knights of the round table.
*DUH*
@CREAM ooooo fuck yeah!
@CREAM here i am polishing my shaolin excalibur to r/wooosh
@CREAM Heck yeah!!!
Merlin is actually a shaolin monk
@@honestcrab yesyes
You could have easily reduced this to name calling and immaturity given the situation, but you came at reasonably and logically. Congrats sir. I always enjoy your videos. If you and your values were representative of what we'd get if we joined the Shaolin Temple, I feel like we'd all be a lot better off in doing so. Keep up the great work man!
So jai can disrespect mike tyson .. jon jones and bruce lee … you a movie fan 😂 man is fake lmao
Loved this. As an Englishmen I thought it was so weird that he claimed that the round table was real, let alone set in the same time period.
Wait, so King Arthur didn't rule England between 1600 and 1620? 😂
@@drutarthesavage5156 bro that's Arthurian mythology 😂
As a Welshman I can tell you who made up king Arthur hahahaha
@@joebloggs5318 Too right actually olo!
@@drutarthesavage5156 no that's a Anglo-Saxon legend. If he did exist and that's a big if. It was around 500 to 600 hundred not 1200 to 1220.
King Arthur was Actually Abraham Lincoln who was actually a Japanese Shaolin Samurai Trained in the art of Irish Scandinavian Akido. It’s a fact Google it!
Not Irish Mongolian? I think you need to fact check better.
Nah nah King Arthur was actually Abraham Lincoln who was actually a wandering Samaria who lived for 10 years in Detroit with kenshin himura and practiced 1700s boxing in the UK with his father Elon musk eating noodles from the planet krypton made by Superman’s cousin. Legit I’m for real it’s a fact. Fire fox it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Badger ahh I see but the Barack Obama had a child with King Arthur and that kid went onto to fight ranton in a Brazilian shaolin martial fu fight and then ranton fought Muhammad Ali who is a expert in Japanese taekwondo. All facts look it up and see
The Badger, your humor reminds me of Trump trying to sound serious. It was funny.
Now every time i hear the Word Shaolin i hear in the back of my head "a German Chinese meme lord"
"meme lord" mhm okay
ok giant dad
@@gandhichoron1365 fuck that build
"i've seen monks from the temple drink alcohol, eat meat, take drugs, see prostitutes, scam people and a lot worse " - … sound more like a pirate bay than a monastery tbh
no, it's just like everywhere else if you "search" a little
Pirate Bay, Monastery, Real Life - All pretty much the same time period.
he may be the greatest pirate I've ever seen
*or so it may seem*
Pirate bay hahahahaha kami damn
Hey dont priests do the same thing? Humans.
I like it when people say stuff exposing themselves without knowing, and then one guy with knowledge comes over to tell them.
Not only he have knowledge, also wisdom.
Still killing me that he thinks king Arthur was real.
It's even funnier when people blindly follow, specially the new guy, without actually reading and seeing who is correct.
@@gonzo90302 this guy was actually trained and the shaolin temple with other " monks" for 3 years. Just read his bio etc. So tbh, he would probably know more than a few people lol
@@jasonroberts6155 oh so because he put it in his bio, that makes it true? Look he may not like it but facts are facts and as previously pointed out he agrees with MJW. What he is mad at is that MJW is calling out the facts. So I can decide to be an Aztec Jaguar warrior? I personally know history professors. I can piece together history, religious beliefs and traditions. I am even the correct heritage and can easily find a correct name to adopt. It is all there to be RESURRECTED right now. If I go train with Nahuatl speaking people for 3 years, I am an Aztec Jaguar Warrior? Or as what happens with most existing religions, we, I would be a modern tribute of my ancestral traditions. Or should we allow the cartel guys who are ripping out a man's heart live peacefully because they are Aztec priest practicing their religious beliefs? I have no doubt this guy is Buddhist, have no doubt he studied at a temple that was built to an amazing degree of accuracy based on known Shaolin beliefs. But the fact is, the original temple was destroyed and he studied at a RESURRECTED temple. No matter how hard we want, how historically accurate, we can no longer become Knights Templars or Viking Berserkers or Jaguar Warriors. We would be students of history and can be based on them, but we can no longer be them.
TODAY'S BOXERS ARENT ACTUALLY REAL BOXERS.... THE REAL BOXERS DIED IN THE 1770'S IN THE UNITED KINGDOM ITS IMPOSSIBLE THERES BOXERS TODAY.. - MICHAEL JAE WHITE
Michael jai white is an homo sapien
ezdfiant “that there could be”
ezdfiant lmao it’s “there’s” not “their’s” 😂😂😂 stop trying to correct people if you aren’t capable of doing so!
Charles Bronson was born way after that, now that's a man of fists
Lmao
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EmDieLess
I’m doing great, my friend
Kung fu is useless
Josiah Trelawny phahahahahahhahahahshaa he should love this comment
Kung Pao chaps
imagine michael jai watching this video.
This will show him how stupid it is ....lol man dont sau what you dont know
I don’t think he have time to watch this video lol and the fact Michael is definitely wrong.
He'd probably round kick his screen
Ben Selman nah, he lays down at night on his phone like the rest of us. He’ll see it.
ranton is just a dumb shaolin ball taster:
th-cam.com/video/nUPwYIIMvp8/w-d-xo.html
Michael Jai White is pretty disrespectful to Bruce Lee and MMA fighters also. It’s a shame as I enjoyed a lot of his movies but his ego is out of control.
Yeah his ego is through the roof.
It may be, but I wouldn't say it too his face lmfao. My shit would be kicked in faster than my brain could comprehend.
@@hosshydraa1181 😂🤣😂...and everyone else as well...
@@hosshydraa1181 someone his weight like Stipe or Cain would say it to his face and still beat the living shit outta him
@@donniethekhajiit5252 Micheal Jai White would beat the ever living shit outta them bro lmfao. Michaels got power, extreme training and the speed for his size is insane. The speed + power would decimate either of them.
Been watching your videos for a year or so, they keep popping up. But this one made me subscribe; the combination of ridiculous meme-editing and amazing historical/cultural insights with the slight German accent is irresistible.
You can almost feel the views rolling in when Rantoni starts talking about anything Shaolin-related.
kekyoin69 because I’d say he’s probably the best source of knowledge for this kind of stuff
"Facts don't care about your feelings" - Rantoni
Michael Jai white doesn't know any facts.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
That quote is from Ben shapiro
@@jason200912 really? wow, no one knew that...
@@jason200912 Ben Shapiro on BBC showed he has more feelings than facts. Also, his wife is a doctor
... "Saying you were taught by [people I'm alleging are phonies] is the same as saying you were taught by [literal fictional characters]."
Might just be one of the most weirdo statements I've ever heard.
Yes yes It burned down around the time Hogwarts was built after the round table was broken
That kind sounds like a good story to write I'm taking this
Yea and then in a galaxy far far away a jar jar binks was born and mystical old ppl carried torchlight swords
Actually Hogwarts was built over the ruins of the round table, 400 years ago when King Arthur died
And the ring was tossed into Mount Doom
@@HamsterK37 And at the same time Nilfgaard was establishing its rule over the Northern Realms.
"of course I know Shaolin ! I did some capoeira ... In Tekken 3"
Kskskskskskks
Well
Temos um brasileirinho por essas bandas?
Capoeira is not Chinese , is history of African (slavery) strengthen in Brazil
@@mcbenb977 wow! really???? it's not like the guy was joking or anything....
@@@mithshude am just letting him know capoeira is not close to Chinese ever
@@mcbenb977 and tekken 3 is a game.
"They didn't meditate, conserve and spread martial arts". Well, the knights of the round table didn't because they were not real, but actual knights did meditate, and did practice and teach martial arts. Just the European kind, not the Asian kind, but they're still documented combat systems and disciplines.
Huh, didn't know that, well you learn something new everyday, thanks for the information!
What types of martial arts were they? Just asking because almost all well known martial arts are asian. The only one I could think of is boxing?
@@thomasgardner455 I don't know much, but i think i can give you a few pointers. German knights would for instance learn Ringen, very usefull to know how to grapple and wrestle so they could throw the fully armored opponent to the ground, control his limbs and maybe try to stab him with their dagger in the weaker points of the armor.
It really covers a lot of ground and i don't want to confuse you nor poison you with bad information because of my own ignorance, so if it interests you i'd advice you to look for HEMA (Historical European Martial Arts) on Wikipedia.
If you want in depth historical information, you should go to the specialized Wiki on the subject, the Wiktenauer.
And of course, you always have TH-cam, but take anything you find on YT with a grain of salt because it's not very reliable, as is usually the case with easily digested information.
As you will see, there is a practitioner perspective and an academic perspective to HEMA, with a whole spectrum in between.
I hope my bad english wasn't too unbearable, and sorry for the mountain of text.
Link to Wikipedia's HEMA article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_European_martial_arts
Link to Wiktenauer: wiktenauer.com/
@@thomasgardner455 im sure there must be some sort of martial arts. Kind of like how the ancient greeks had pankration. Maybe it was a derivative from that?
Hema
To say that Shaolin was done when the temple burned down is the same as saying Christianity was done when the crucified Jesus. i expected more from you, man.
The USA was done when the white house was burned down and Russia was done when Moscow was burned down too
Just to let u know the crucifixion is a myth also
@@thetruthistheanswer9668 Crucifixion was pretty real, even crucifixion of guys named Jesus are real, that was not a unique name, only the biblical Jesus is a myth
@@wolf310ii you look it up , it is even said by historians that the crucifixion was a myth , but jesus was real
@@thetruthistheanswer9668 So his birth is fake to
I love when people say "you can Google it lol" then say something they've obviously never looked up
Snoop Dogg on weed sounds more reasonable than MJ white.
"Snoop on weed" is redundant...
Hmm..... I think MJ white is doing a 'Kanye' impression
Lol
Snoop dogg on weed??? 😂😂😂 michael j white smoke a weed too
You mean Snoop Dogg?
It’s annoying to see people talk about something they know nothing about and have no doubt about it
Welcome to the internet, my friend.
Love these comments for sure. People suck.
My father in a nutshell... sorry venting.
well, no one made you watch it... or did they? Is it possible that you're just bored and looking for things to annoy you?
Battle One
Some people just look for something to argue about
Like saying, the Mona Lisa has been restored and touched up over the years, so it's not real any more and Da Vinci dont exists anymore....
it’s no longer the original painting but it’s still real.
It was never to begin with everybody knows the apprentice paints 90% of the picture for the main artist to come in an paint the eyes and mouth
Davinci has actually been proven to be a few different people
* wheeze *
@@unbroken1010 is this serious?
"Alot of people want to write something off because it intrigues and confuses them." Very well said friend. You give a great perspective here, I love that you are willing to speak on these things and you do it in such a humble way. Thank you for the content🙏🏼
"lets CHECK IT OUT" 0:44
nice Trevor James reference lmao
太好了
I wasn't looking at the screen when he said it, but i immediately pictured Trevor James walking on Beijing streets
ITS TREVOR JAMES
I've never seen/heard someone be so ruthless and polite/calm at the same time.
Imagine walking down the street and seeing a bunch of shaolin monks in a maserati convertible just straight up partying lmao
it's pretty common, i have seen monks having a Bugatti. there are bad and good monks.
Michael Jai white talking about Asian culture is like me teaching people about black culture.
not really
Not at all
Well he actually knows real martial arts not this dancing yoga.. called kung fu
@@ramsinc5521 Dancing yoga but they actually beat your ass up lol
@@colocolo1982 I'll beat the dog shit out of any of them I boxed since I was young.. matter fact my younger brother that also boxed with me since he was young beat the shit out of karate black belt twice his size..it was pretty funny.. there's a million videos on TH-cam of Shaolin Monks and Kung Fu Masters fighting real Fighters like boxers and Jiu-Jitsu guys and getting their asses cracked in seconds
I love how Michael jai white is so confident about the shit thats he's talking about
And to be completely wrong and it really is absurd with his claims. Point proven saying being trained as a monk is the same as king Arthur times, what in the fuck goes through his head. Not only how many years apart but the fact that king Arthur is fictional. I lost a lot of respect for MJW here. What a dick head.
The less knowledge someone has, the more confident he is about what he really knows and vice versa.
That is kinda the MO for alot of our Jogger community in America. Be completely wrong but say it with hubris and false confidence so unsuspecting people think you have a IQ higher than 85.
This Hell Boy 😈 lol dope profile Classic album too
@@acewilson5898 There is proof that King Arthur was a real person and not just a legend
"Expertise does not fall from the sky"
Gonna use that, as its applicable in all walks of life.
Stamp?
Once Michael Jai White said "I could beat bruce lee" everything he said became irrelevant to me. Lol
You could probably beat Bruce Lee. He was a tiny asian actor.
lol michael would destroy him. stop it
Do you know how accomplished he is?
Magic ManOKC nah man I’m not saying mjw couldn’t beat him but Bruce would kill almost people in a fight
Take into account natural progression and make bruce lee the same guy with modern training...MJW wouldnt win but he might do ok
Yoshi Hiroshi was raised in a Vancouver concentration camp and taught by a monk in the camp. He then taught my teacher which in turn taught me. Tiger and Crane was my favorite kata and we worked 5 animal 5 element into it also. Breathing and bone alignment can achieve amazing things. Love your channel sir.
Thank you for speak up for Shaolin and Chinese Kungfu with your knowledge in a reasonable and rational manner
Thank so much for speaking up for Shaolin and Chinese kungfu with your acknowledgement ♥️🖤💛
wie krass das einfach ist, dass Anton so unfassbar ernst sein kann, obwohl seine anderen Videos absolut durchgeknallt sind. Und deswegen liebe ich den jungen einfach.
it is crazy that anton can be so serious but on the other hand his videos are so insane. And that is why i love this guy.
Thanks for translating it :)
@@AfricanZebra3000 No problem :)
German person thanks for the translate
Ja
Hahaha joa Wenn man ihn mal so auf der Straße trifft is es halt was ganz ungewohntes ihn normal zu sehen, liegt halt aber daran das wir ihn hauptsächlich als komödianten sehen
Michael is a martial artist and actor. He is not a historian.
That's all that needs to be said
Edit: Evidently I was wrong, and the average youtube commenter has ths reading comprehension of a chihuahua.
Michael J White's studies are NOT in a field that would allow him to make such authoritative statements. I agree with everyone who came down here to get pissed at me, (as much as it hurts to admit after this display you've put on.) However, it also doesn't make you right to trash talk him as a human being
Not being a professional in an area dosen't give someone a free pass to spread false information about it. This kind of stuff needs to be corrected by people.
Does that justifies him saying all those false statements? I think not.
@@theazureknight9399 I didn't claim it was a free pass. I said he isn't qualified to speak about what he does
Ok thanks
@@theazureknight9399 agree
That's why people should be careful what they say. Especially influential people. Amazing video 🙂👍🙏💯
Lmao anyone who is influenced by Michael Jai White deserves whatever happens from listening to his dumb ass.
@@SnailHatan you could say that about most politicians and world leaders. Yet here we are.
@@bprobo24 Somehow, you managed to say absolutely nothing.
@@SnailHatan that's ma thang
@@SnailHatan extreme cringe take
I feel like he was told this by someone at where he learns martial arts like an instructor so he never questioned it.
I do not really have a command on this specific subject but Mr. White clearly is repeating a common mistake about cultural originality. Originality doesn't mean uniqueness, it means "belonging to the origin"... when we are talking about cultures ofcourse. Apparently that snippet of culture is still alive so wherever the carriers of that culture deems the "Shaolin Temple" is, that is the original. Cultures are subject to evolution just like biology is. They adapt, get selected and even drift along. So today's temple is without doubt different from the past centuries. This does not mean it is fake. And all the political interferences must have happened in the past too.(As you have said) This culture apparently survived that too. "Purism" is a very wrong way to look at human cultures.
I wanna see Michael react to Ranton's reaction to Michael talking about Shaolin.
@CrazySicily Idk, I'd say spending three years somewhere would give you incredibly biased information. Otherwise, you'd have to admit you wasted a whole lot of your life. I don't know the truth, but I'm highly skeptical of both now lol
CrazySicily like how white people are culture vultures but actually shit on it's people
He'd probably reread the wikipedia page Ranton reads to refute his OG point. They both seem to have read it and Ranton curiously omits the part White is talking about. Namely the destruction of the temple 400 years ago and the death of pretty much all the shaolin for a generation. But hey, that probably means nothing.
he won't give a fuck cause he's a big headed black dude and a karateka
@@NWA8000 What are you even talking about?
Both of those interviews got me pretty fckn upset, I've been at the temple since I was 16. I am 22 now and I am also Full blooded Mexican but I feel like my heart is at the temple still, and MJW talking like he knows what he's talking about.
MJW sounds he has no idea what he’s talking about. Entirely speculations from what I can tell based on his demeanor and speech.
You talk like a occult member.
@@MrAmhara wat
MJW has no right bruv to talk about these things
I just took them as a way to dispel the magical, mystical, unbeatable, everyone who trains or lives there is a monk myth but that's just my opinion like everything jus take it with a grain of salt.
MJW is my dude, but i don't know wtf hes on when he starts talkin' bout chinese history n' shit. The only thing imma listen to him about is where to get some gear.
@@fcondro If only more fans of famouse folk were like you two. People need to realize that yes, their idols can be wrong about certain things.
This dude knows jack shit
🤣 right lmao or Japanese MA
@@fcondro Same here.
There's always people like that though. Sometimes the clout get in their head.
They say something to look good, once they dig too deep they got to play that game to save face.
Pride and ego is something that I wouldn't be surprise to see actors have.
@John. Beimheim His truth is that, all he got is martial arts, if you take that away he got nothing.
So obviously he's a sudden expert because he read some false info somewhere. Talking about it, just apparently makes him look better, because a black man calling out something known for martial arts obviously makes him look like he's so good at fighting, that he can call out a well known subject.
MJW is a great fighter, but he ain't that great. I know Joe Rogan probably can kick his ass.
A lot of MMA fighters actually. Says enough.
How does he know more, about Chinese history than the chinese man telling us about it?
Sounds like Michael is putting ego before truth.
there is a difference between what history says than what is witnessed, I believe Micheal jay is right.
This is the best comment I have seen so far.
Being wrong and not telling the truth is not the same thing.
@@MasudaOfKorriban So he's not decided to educate himself. Ego has told him to diminish his detractors even if they could beat him. This close-minded reality is not something I can get behind. individual > technique.
@@RazielXXXXXX If one educates themself, but reaches the wrong conclusion unbeknownst to themselves how would that be against their ego? There's others who also believe what he believes as well, and to fix the misinformation prob that they have you can't just say. "It"a cause of ego" That's giving people a scapegoat that's not needed.
Usually how it goes, people develop a few skills, and all the sudden they're professional Master's who can comment on everything credibly.
"This is a little nitty picky"
Ayo, my guys voice killed me hahahahah 🤣🤣
My question is, do the monks of that temple have an unbroken lineage, for 1500 years, with one master choosing his successor, or were there gaps of time when the ancient knowledge was lost for some duration?
Smh my head. Jerusalum was burnt down so Christianity isn't real
Well it isnt...
@@sublim3princ371 I meant the belief system doesn't exist in anyone's mind
@Cap'n lol no
@@sublim3princ371 yeah you're probably right
And the people in Israel today are Caucasian practicing another race practices lol. I dont see a black pope or a real black jew running these religions.
Michael Jai white learns martial arts.... becomes expert on Chinese monk history
@frs 12 the fuck
omg, dude... him talking about there being no pictures of shaolin monks in cars reminds me of last year when i went to Best Buy. there were a bunch of buddhist monks there dressed in their gasa, coming out from Best Buy with four bags each. they went to bed bath and beyond after that, and bought an entire shelf of mugs with foxes painted on them.
Why does that sound oddly wholesome?
So your point is Shaolin Monks like foxes okay I guess you can get a participation trophy for that
@@unbroken1010 ....?????
Therd are different type of monks.
@@rudysong9220 He just said it reminded him of it
Love MJW and he is a respectable performer and martial artist. But these claims are insane and I'm glad Ranton is bringing the truth out.
In Micheal Jai White's logic if it aint the original it's fake. I guess all martial arts with history is fake because those who teach now adays haven't been personally taught by the founders.
i love the part at 3:40 how ranton unknowingly actually does a good job of explaining a perspective of the ship of theseus
I heard a story of a monk.
Something like this:
An emperor and his army went to a temple to destroy it and its people. A monk stayed behind and sat in the temple while everyone ran away. The emperor said to the monk, “are you crazy, I could run my sword right through your body and kill you”
To which the monk replied, “are you crazy, you could run that sword right through my body”
I don't quite get the message. Could you explain to me?
@@zeliumite I think he got it slightly wrong, iirc it's Buddha's not monks, and the point is the "monk" doesn't acknowledge the need or even existence of violence, he's at peace so peace is all he knows, he doesn't understand the attack and is equally worried that sharp stick might poke his eye out, not even realising the violence or intimidation that is being used on him, he's just at peace, and doesn't want to loose an eye, it's something like that I heard it years ago but it was told differently, I think alot gets lost in translation with these proverbs....
Be good people, remember it's nice to be important, but more important to be nice.....
@@EZ-D-FIANT oh I see, thanks for the clarification
@@zeliumite no worries bro, av fun......
@@EZ-D-FIANT that was beautifully explained. Thank you.
Hi Ranton. You have great videos. How many times has the Shaolin Temple been burned down during various periods? 👍🏻
He's really uneducated when it comes to martial arts history. He's gotten really arrogant in recent years
Nope, but nice job being Ranton's imaginary other lady.
@@NightsauceHQ bruh White was just wrong, dont get all butthurt
singhpharoah there are a lot of scams related to fake monks... fuck’em.
or you just uneducated in martial arts history and a fuckin clown. that's why you jumped on the first alternate perspective like its the word of god. how has he gotten arrogant? because the past couple years you decided to look him up and you watching decade old interviews?
Give your own points on why you think he is wrong instead of personal attacks like "uneducated" and "really arrogant".
Sadly he may never actually see this.
Well, he's not so far up his ass to the point where he won't be on You Tube to see it.
@The_Metatron_ and you think he'll acknowledge you? what makes you think you're so important?
@The_Metatron_ I highly doubt he reads comments lol
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Thank you for that. Too many people now feel like they have the green light to speak on things they know absolutely nothing about. Joe Rogan and Quentin Tarantino talking about Bruce Lee bought me down this rabbit hole. ...............GRIM
Wu Tang Clan(the rap group) may have covered themselves in Shaolin like things, but they didn't tamper with its history.
Also, Rza is quite educated on the topic at hand.
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And very *gLad @ that.!
🔓 Congrats 🎉 *bonus hint!,
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Well they have about the same level of authenticity as the as the ccp-s Shaolin monk's(tm) MJW is absolutely right about what he is saying. When he says that this is the same time period as the Knights of the round table, he is also right because the real temple was founded in the 495 AD.
@TotheK I N G D O M That via YT ??.,
Did it include any 🇬🇧 London street eVent 📹 footage ?
Michael: Barely mentions Shaolin
Rantoni: *So you have chosen **_D E A T H_*
So after watching the video im kinda disappointed of michael...Shaolin monks are very cool people judging by my own experience. I love the shaolin culture and especially shaolin kung fu and i was really happy when ubisoft added a shaolin in for honor. I would really like to experience what its actually like to live like them and learn some more about shaolin kung fu. Sadly ill probably never will :P
But you can dream i guess right?
Anyway to everyone reading this "have a nice day" says ze friendly german
A nice day to you as well. From your friendly southerner!
I have a Good day of napalm. From the rice field of Nam
Doc Holiday have yer little yella carcus a mighty fine day ya hear? From Texas
@@Trng-gk1db Theres nothing better than the smell of napalm in the morning brotha
@Hoppy the Mad Pencil who would want to know your mother anyway?
Ranton has 2 very different personalities: the one when he review games, and the one when he talks about shaolin related stuff
Kinda lovin' dat
Basically how every person should be, there is a time for fun and game and a time to be serious.
Attaining Balance between the two is what we should strive towards.
This is very informative. Thank you, I’ve learned something new today.
An articulate. respectful, well constructed debunking of falsehoods.
Damn crillin is a facts machine, appreciated the video
He looks more krillins bully... The one who got one shotted. BY KRILLIN
@Doug Yee bruh I was talking about his monk bullies smh
This funny as hell idk why they hurt in the comments
I’m confused, why is MJW even talking about Shaolin history?
Sounds like he's comparing the temple being burned with the Alamo where the defenders died to the last man. In this case he's assuming that the Shaolin culture was destroyed.
It was destroyed multiple times not once so no it's not the same.
It's nice to have someone who actually lived through the Shaolin teachings teaching me history rather than some BBC or other professional news source. They probably wrong about most stuff and yet here you are just that guy who trained at Shaolin temple as a regular day TH-camr. I love you man; keeep spittin facts!!
I thought you were referring to Michael Jai White ;)
@@SlumDawgFadul Same 💀
@@SlumDawgFadul Same
I'm a fan of Shaolin, but I think you're conflating 2 points of view. Googling Shaolin Temple yields an origin of around the same time as the fabled knights of the round table. I think that's what MJW is referring to. The temple burning down 400 years ago is actually MJW conflating 2 periods in shaolin history. The burning of the temple in 1928, but also the attack on the temple during the Ming dynasty which was almost 400 years ago. MJW definitely has a skewed view of shaolin, but he's not factually wrong.
“Stop idealizing and stop slandering...” Rantoni pepperoni has better journalism and discussions than most so called professionals. Excellent video.
I lost my respect to Michael J W when he pretty much disrespectful & condescending toward Bruce Lee, his legacy, & MMA cultures. Dude's just full of bullcrap.
Croz Raven the only thing I remember him saying about Bruce Lee is that he is an ACTOR and not a real fighter (which is pretty much true) and that he wouldn’t be able to beat a fighter heavier than him (which is also true). That ain’t disrespect, that is truth
P.S. I am not at all a MJW fan, but he does know quite a bit about fighting
MJW have huge respect for Bruce. And people who knew him said he was good in street fights as well. But you really just got to read all the stuff he wrote about martial arts to understand that he most likely was an amazing fighter, not just an "actor". The guy invented Jeet Kune Do and the whole idea about MMA. He was the first who understood you need to learn the best techniques from other styles and adapt techniques into real fighting. This was a guy that was 100% devoted to master martial arts.
But what MJW was saying is that MJW is over 100kg, Bruce was 58kg. Thats a massive difference if anyone of you have been fighting. I can feel a massive advantage when im just 10kg over the opponent. The power difference is huge.
@@Avean hmmm not really 10 kg big difference?! In my gym some dudes hit way harder than the bigger ones. Also I out grappled a guy who was 90kg and I was only 65 kg back then. Also MJW is just as much actor as Bruce Lee was MJW is no real fighter.
@@seanwallcroft6272 I am sorry, but bragging with such an obvious long nose face of able to beat a dead person that couldn't defend himself is just downright disrespectful imo. It's literally like a comment from keyboard warrior on internet. Let's say a random person said the same thing on an interview, would you agree to that? Also, weight isn't everything. Of course there will be an advantage if a fight between same level of skills, but in this case we couldn't really measure it exactly, isn't?
If MJW wanna prove himself to be "the best of the best" than he should already in pro MMA competition right now, but we all know the real answer to that, aren't we?
Avean that’s what I was implying, but the fact that Bruce was a street fighter as well is questionable since there’s no actual info on that. But MJW with his size difference would have a cosmic advantage being a martial artist as well
turns out the temple had been set of fire too several times and the oldest one i could find is the fire of 1753 which is around 300 years ago
Right, the Northern temple in 1928, and the Southern temple in 1723.
He pulled up Wikipedia 1:04 😂😭
@W.A M.P so thats why Ranton said that the politics with the monks is complicated.
The point about townsfolk dressing up as Shaolin monks is probably true. And that's true for many temples. I went to Singapore a couple of decades ago and in their temples they had monks selling souvenirs to raise funds. They said they were helping out the temple and putting on the monk attire for the benefit of the tourists and photos etc. We nicknamed them 'business monks'. ^_^
1:07 that guy is the furthest thing from the image of a warlord I could have imagined.
Ha!
You are too funny!!!
The fact that he (as a "martial artist") called other martial artists "kung-fu people", holy shit. Way to fail. He literally is the new Steven Seagal.
@Hitado Dota Shut up with your uneducated racist remarks.
@Hitado Dota Learn to type properly before you comment, pathetic hypocrite.
@Torika Gomutsutchi Thanks mate :)
@Jay Gin By calling Kung Fu people idiotic.
@@jerryhuang1999 Yep like those boxing and armwrestling people
Michael Jai White’s information is about as valid as a McDonald’s coupon from 400 years ago.
I’m also an expert on space. Yeah, I’ve never been there, but I’m an expert
Only space here is between his fucking ears.
@@joebloggs5318 🤣
I heard you’re actually the Space Force 4-Star General in command.
I think a lot of space experts have never been
1:07 The guy look like a bank employe. Not a warlord. 😂😂
OMM!
You guys naysaying don’t even know. MJW has traveled through the space time continuum and saw with his own eyes what happened. Y’all are just haters.......
I know right. Everyone is just stupid these days
Nice sarcasm man , I like the flavour 👌
@@shishirupreti481 ... nicee now go make me sandwich
Lol
@@shishirupreti481 is this sarcasm or an r/woosh moment
I'm not Chinese but you still got my respect cause you love and respect your culture 💯
He's a clown
That pic of the warlord looks like a "warlord" on his Warcraft account, at best🤣
Evil comes in many forms, I say this by seeing killers like the unabomber, and John Wayne Gacy, and many many other so called "serial killers" don't fit the mold of what we seeing our mind's eye what a real killer should look like. I believe that there is so much to learn from eachother.
I believe this man. He said exactly how many long he spent at Shaolin. In 3 years a gifted person in martial arts can learn a lot. I respect this man. He doesn’t exaggerates himself. I like that. I never exaggerated what I’ve done in my life. This is called stolen valor. I like how he explains this subject.
That's just over aggregation or being a liar stolen Valor pertains to acting like you're part of the military when you're not
MJW is legit MA too
@@yoshidayui7774 which one?
@@neverknowsbest5656 stuntman fu and hollywood-do karate.
@@yoshidayui7774 if you count learning stunt-fu from yan wo ping's students, sure
MJW is a clown he like to disrespect other martial arts legends which makes me not be a fan of him
Same. I mean he’s a good fighter and all, but that doesn’t mean he can talk bad about others. People nowadays trashtalk about Bruce Lee, but no one dared to said so when he was still alive.
@@DrYesorno Where is the proof that he was actually a good fighter? Lol
@@kerrikittles23yearsand30 Why are you asking me when you can find the answer for yourself from the internet
@@DrYesorno Its a rhetorical question dumb ass hahaha the answer is there isnt any. Lmao
Tero Rista there isn’t any?? Why don’t you watch some interviews with people who spared and we’re around Bruce and trained with him. You honestly sound dumb af with that claim thus proving you haven’t done any research let alone know a thing about Bruce’s legacy.
Rantoni:
*Takes a peculiar box*
*Dust covers the entirety of the box*
*Rantoni blows the dust off of the box*
*Rantoni opens the box slowly*
*As the box was opened, a smile appears on rantoni's face*
Rantoni: "Cheeeeck it oouuutt"
Its the n-word pass
I have no idea what your talking about. Please explain for us slow people.
"Expertise does not fall from the sky." BRILLIANT!
MJW always says about how he could have gone into ufc, and how he taught ufc fichters some moves. He even said that he could beat ufc fighters (mike perry). According to him, the only reason he didnt go into ufc is bcoz the fighters are physically broken after their career and not wealthy enough.
Mjw also said he couldnt get into the police force coz he broke all kind of exam records and he had a really high iq. He claims Bruce Lee cant really fight coz he is an actor n has no real fighting experience, n yet goes on to say that he (mjw) is legit despite he himself is an actor n has never entered any real fights. He goes on to say, that he taught kimbo mma moves n regularly spars with dc n jones😒
In summary, he is just another Seagal. He carries himself n believes as though he is great n humble. His superiority complex is off the charts. Sad, coz he is already 50 years old. Usually we see these kind of behaviour in teenagers. The only thing fake here is MJW
To be fair the fact he trains with the most badass people in the world hes got a point when he says he doesnt have to plus ufc unpays tbeir fighter way to much in 2019 they paid 16% of their revenue to fighters
If you bother watching MJW talk about Bruce Lee, you'd know that he DIDN'T say Bruce Lee can't fight. the one thing he claims over Bruce Lee was that he could beat Bruce Lee, which ironically, would probably be true due to reasons that have to do with plain old physics more than anything else. whatever his attitude may be, you CAN'T discredit the fact that MJW is a legit martial artist. while he's clearly wonky in the head just from what we could see here alone, he's no fake when it comes to his capacity at fighting.
Falcon Windblade no doubt dudes been training with the best of martial artist around the world without ever having to show his true skills to an audience like many other famed martial artist have
Most of this can be proven tho
I was JUST going to say how similar to Seagal he sounds, and then saw that you brought that up. I hope he gets as washed up as ol' Pony-Tail.
Michael mixes fantasy and reality like any "amateur historian". There`s plenty of them around.
11:24 "Stop idealising it. Stop slandering it." 👍👏👍👏👍👍👍👏
Ranton just wants to cash in pure and simple. Thats all his youtube videos are about. But you get that in capitalism where the purpose of everything is abstracted to the pursuit of profit.
The way he say "its absurd" got me laughing so hard I smashed the like and subscribe button.