Chapter 17 AuDHD Workplace Adjustments: building up your own
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- Chapter 17 recapping my unexpected Autism and ADHD year: this week I'm talking about reasonable workplace adjustments for AuDHD (combined autism and ADHD). There's a shockingly low understanding of how common AuDHD is and how combined AuDHD can present completely differently to 'just' autism or 'just' ADHD and so often leads to both getting missed, even though the challenges can be compounded.
I'll revisit the legal obligation employers have to provide reasonable adjustments for neurodivergent conditions (for which AuDHD is TWO recognised neurodivergent conditions, whether formally recognised as a combined diagnosis yet or not), and suggest some tools you might consider using for helping build a conversation with your workplace about how to support you being your best self.
Please do like and share this video and subscribe to my channel if you find it useful, or message me to get in touch and connect.
Contact email: amineurodivergent@gmail.com
Some useful links:
User Manual for Me: / a-user-manual-for-me
Workplace Adjustments (civil service blog): civilservice.b...
Equality Act 2010 guidance:
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AQ Autism Self-Test:
I'm going to keep posting the link to the AQ Self Test for autism every Sunday in case this is the first video in the series people come across. Take the self test (remember it's JUST a self-test) and see how you score. You may have been autistic all along and had no idea, like me:
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ADHD Self-Test:
(with all the same caveats as above) an ADHD self-test.
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I’ve not heard anyone better describe my professional life up to now. Me, a 57 year old just diagnosed AuDHDer. Thank you.
Thank you for the comment - that's really validating for me to hear.
Excellent starter conversation / ideas - thanks for your efforts :)
Thanks so much!
Note to myself: list starts at 17:42
One of your best videos i think. Very concise, you gave practicable structures and suggestions to work by and really hit the nail on the head in terms of tone (not being overly bitter but still expressing the severity of the challenges).
Thank you!
Thanks - I'm getting there...
8:33 This really makes me think of parts work (IFS) therapy, perhaps some of the neural patterns in the brain might have more ingrained traits from either one than some other parts/thought patterns. It is a balancing act for sure. (Edit. 16:36 Also, having watched further I want to mention that parts work doesn’t equal “split personality” as such, it just indicates that human brains operate with different patterns of thinking in different life situations. As a specific trauma response DID is an extreme manifestation of the naturally varied and even conflicting thought patterns and survival mechanisms that everyone has in the brain, whether neurodivergent or more typical 😅)
This is an exceptionally articulate and clearly explained presentation with readily actionable information. I particularly liked your telling us about Cassie Robinson’s “the user manual for me” and the UK civil service workplace adjustments passport.
This is one of THE BEST resources I've found about ADHD/autism! I love that you're specifically talking about auDHD here, as someone who was formally diagnosed with both 2 days ago! This video is so concise and articulate - really nice to see a 'highly verbal' auDHD man in action, as that is often a trait attributed to women. Keep doing what you're doing! Really helpful & I'll definitely be referring back to this video in the future.
Thank you - I really appreciate that. Good luck with your own AuDHD discovery journey! It's certainly been an adventure with some ups and downs
I totally agree! I am researching and consuming a lot of information on building an inclusive workplace and the way you explain neurodivergence is SO helpful! Thank you for all of your videos and information!
Hi! I just found your channel through this video. I'm a 22 year old guy from the Netherlands whom has been burned out since 2014. I got diagnosed with autism shortly after, and then got my ADHD and social anxiety diagnosis around 2021 after continuous years of efforts surrounding autism accomodations, which still didn't allow me to continue on with my societal life regularly. I have not been able to get a high school diploma, and many jobs didn't work out either. Right now I'm stuck between figuring out whether I want to apply to a full disability welfare program that would excuse me from work or school to let go of that idea once and forall, but as a rather ambitious person, part of me keeps hoping there are ways to make things work within the bounds of society anyways, and this video gave me a sense of hope that maybe one day I will be able to get myself back into the flow that I would dream to be in, with hopefully the courage to speak up about the accomodations I would need to even have a chance. I can't wait to check out your other content, keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing - this all sounds super relatable. That's the worst part for me - feeling ambitious to DO THINGS with my life, but feeling like my shoelaces are tied in actually making those things happen because others don't know what I need and I can't explain it well enough to influence, and then always ending up feeling like a passenger rather than a driver in my own life. It's infuriating and demoralising.
I'm never sure if TH-cam allows links or not (I think it maybe does for me but not for commenters?) but I'm going to try: not sure if you're familiar with the concept of 2e, but once I realised I was AuDHD, this article made a lot of sense to me: www.additudemag.com/2e-adhd-autism-parent-child
@@amineurodivergent Thanks for the link! I can indeed open it, and it resonated with me a ton, as a former "gifted kid" as well. My brother and my mother also could definitely be categorised as 2e
Thank you for the link to the Me users manual and your insights. Greatly appreciated!
Thank you - really glad to know the links were useful, they definitely have been for me so just trying to pay it forward a little!
I feel so identified with your experiences on how it feels to be AuDHDer. I'm Autistic but really sure that I'm an inattentive AuDHDer. Great video! I'm watching your series, it has been really helpful.
Thanks for watching and commenting - you're quite recently DXd as well if I remember, right? I've found it really hard to negotiate workplace adjustments and being expected to be the expert and self-advocate for something we're only just finding out about as we go, with very little understanding out there in the broader world. We'll get there, but my goodness it can be a tiring journey!
@@amineurodivergent Yes, I got my DX on May this year. I'm currently living in Spain and the legislation is different: as per my understanding, the company is legally bound to provide support/adjustment only if you have at least 33% disability ratio certificate. There some kind of medical tribunal that, based on your necessities and medical record, assign you a value between 0%-100%. From what I've investigated on the internet, is really unlikely for a case like mine (DXd in adulthood) to get any disability certificate. And for autism specifically, they review and update this ratio every couple of years. Which shows the ignorance of the legal system on autism, like if they are hoping that you stop being autistic or become "less" autistic.
In an anonymous employee satisfaction survey, I said that "I was scare of discrimination since I was neurodivergent" and got an (anonymous) reply from boss' boss with an open attitude to provide support/adjustments. But, as you mentioned, I'm still figuring out what I need. Your videos have been helpful to define what to say in that meeting and to not overload with information my boss.
I'm wanting to reply to what I've heard you say in this video. I wonder how much time and effort I will give to do that. I 'm 72 and the workplace issues long ago shifted into the rear-view mirror. However. Seems no place isn't a work place. Establishing and maintaining a place and space of stability seems to be a job with long hours and no pay. I appreciate listening to your talking through in such a calm and articulate manner. I'm planning to use DBT and a modification of eco mapping to study the commentary in this video. Transparently, my plan here with using your video as homework is to ready myself for a potential visit with my children and grandchildren. I've heard a good amount of brillance here. And recognizing brilliance as an observable aspect of burnout comes from experience. Cheers. And, thank you.
Wow, thank you for the compliment. I'll be honest, I wasn't familiar with eco mapping and your comment set me off down a rabbit hole. It's really fascinating stuff that I will be exploring more of - thank you. I hadn't thought of workplace adjustments being applicable to wider family and social situations prior to this, but of course you're right - they absolutely are. Thanks for this, you've given me a lot to mull over around where I want to take my thinking next.
As I said I would, I'm doing my homework . Feeling surprised after three listens how much I am hearing as if for the first time. Especially happy with the links you've provided. Looking forward to using those. Thanks.
Love this! I’m creating a neurodivergent helpful tips document for my workplace (for me and others) and these are great ideas.
Thanks - would love to hear of more if you ever wanted to share or drop links in here or by email!
Would also love to get a copy, if you manage to share it :)
Sweet, I’m almost done with my version one of it and would love some feedback. I’ll need to make a more general version to share as the one I have right now references things specific to this company. I’ll try to send that soon.
Also, just to note, my job is remote, so I don’t have any helpful tips for in person dynamics.
@@JennileePorch Sounds great - I'm 99% remote too, so really up for comparing notes on what good can look like!
Ive been gaslighted over auDHD and have been fired from 2 jobs over it even asking for accommodations for sensory issues. They want consistent, reliable, efficient work everyday regardless because they can’t “see” the problem.
This is shocking to hear. Are you in the UK? Pretty sure refusing workplace sensory accommodations, let alone firing you over asking for them, is very much illegal under the Equality Act if yes, so you'd potentially have a legal case here. May be illegal in the US as wellI - less sure, but it's my understanding that autism and ADHD are covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act and your employer has legal responsibilities to offer you reasonable workplace adjustments.
@@amineurodivergent Im in the US. I did ask for accommodations both times. Both had conditions attached and I don’t know if thats legal. The first job I was fired from I had been there over 10 years. At the time, I didn’t know I had autism but I knew I didn’t fit in some how. I had ask for accommodation for my hearing saying I could not focus and concentrate when I was in the medical office. At first I was told no. It would cause a disruption as my teammates and I sat in the same, small, cramped location. I eventually spoke with the specialist I worked and was friends with and she offered to share her office space. I gladly took her up on it. It did not cost the company anything for me to change locations within the office but since it was not approved by my manager, more like wasn’t her idea, she threatened me and my job. I did take the matter to HR, her Director. Nothing came from that. She bullied me so badly I sought counseling. Even then my symptoms were missed but she did write a letter based on ADA guidelines to support the need for my relocation within the office and I gave a copy to my boss and HR. After that I was left alone about the matter but the damage was already done. I was ostracized by my peers. Eventually I was dismissed as being a disruption in the work place. This was in 2017. Since then I have applied for numerous jobs with this company and would never hear back. Eventually my doctor friend made some calls for me and found out I am blacklisted. You cannot reveal your neurodivergence before being hired here. That will result in “thank you for applying but we are moving forward with a more qualified candidate.” There is no acceptance. Im marked as weird, rude, impolite, demanding, and selfish. The second job dismissal was actually a relief and my boss was narcissistic. I was there 2 years! Every place I have been in my life I have told myself its going to get better. Tomorrow will be better. I clung to hope to make it through each day. 4 months ago I self diagnosed and everything fell into place. I called my GP and got a referral to a psychologist. My appointment is at the end of the month. I know I am valuable, have self worth and get very pissed off when others try to take advantage. I get mad more often then sad about it. Like as if half of my life has been lived by someone else.
Very real.
Good video.
Informative😊
Thank you!
So good! love the list! Can you please give clear examples of career too that can be for AuHD? would be so good thank you
when I find one I'll let people know! I'd love to find a job that doesn't shred me!!
I am still on the path to diagnosis for my Autism. But I do think of them as my ADHD Goblin and my Autism Dwarf (recently learned his first name was Autism but the behavior was always there and I characterized it that way)
So there is this odd couple-esq sitcom in mind...maybe that is why I makes jokes for myself so often?
Have you had any feedback of anyone using the Manual of Me?