People seem to forget that Discord isn't just an app - it's a browser-based program. The developer tools built into the browser version are accessible to every single end user with a Discord account and a keyboard. With a few keystrokes, a few minutes of your time, and absolutely no special code or programs or tools, you can use Discord to change people's posts to say literally ANYTHING. You can make their post say whatever the hell you want. You can create as many fake screenshots as you like. Discord screenshots are some of the worst forms of "evidence" on the internet right now. Xeno was on the right track taking a video recording of his message history like he did in the previous video concerning this topic - it's a hell of a lot harder to fake a video recording with what i've outlined above due to how the editing works, and to my knowledge you need the browser program to do it, not the app. Bottom line, take Xeno's advice - don't believe everything you see on the internet.
You actually can inspect element edit in the desktop discord app with developer mode enabled and by pressing ctrl + shift + i, so not even the app is safe from this kinda stuff. The edited HTML is reverted when changing channels, but video splicing is always possible in non-streamed video evidence... so really recordings of the mobile app would be the only, as far as I know, fully trustworthy evidence.
Not only did this person fabricate the images to destroy the reputation of others, but they themselves are the ones who created the vile stuff about the women in the images. Truly deplorable.
Bro they don't care. People on twitter hear "female victims" and they just run with it with their hands covering their ears and their eyes CLOSED yet mouth wide open spewing their bs.
Nah, zero remorse, they're Twitter Andies that only care about getting mad. They'll say stupid shit like "yea, but it could have been true" or something absurd like that.
I know we all meme on baldicante, but telling people to just stop and think about things for a day is genuinely great advice in this day and age. Jumping to conclusions the second you see something does nothing but perpetuate reactionary bs
Too late buddy, twitter already forgotten about this. They finished their witch hunting session and moved on already waiting for their next victims. Like always, there will be no responsibility taken too.
@Ais-FF even if they know the truth, they will never apologize. If anything they'll feel they're the heroes that protect the ladies in need. Honestly twitter hivemind is one of the lowest form of society i know.
@@docf8202 Honestly, this extends to other Content Creators as well. As long as they don't get backlash from it, they'll be fine. They technically "can't" get backlash from it because they didn't know and all in all they did it for the "greater good of the 'community'".
@@Ais-FF Yup. Midnababy and SaoriV didn't take down their tweets DESPITE this being proven false. What a joke. Call out misogyny & vile actions falsely... and then then don't even take accountability by apologizing when proven wrong.
Why is everybody so hung up on the idea that is the "community" that won the awards... They community award is for the community managing on square side like the duty commenced people, the forum mods, etc...
@@Irisfantasiesit's one of the biggest selling points new players hear about. "The community is incredible and unlike any other!" And other bullshit like that.
Glad this came to light. I've known Mist for awhile, and he never came across like someone displayed in those Imgurs. I raided with him during Top, and he was always kind, helpful, and supportive of everyone in the group. It's disgusting that people can do such terrible things to smear someone's name.
Im honored to be a part of this saga in a small way, i had a lovely chat with Zeems after and have decided he’s a cute streamer who is right. Don’t believe everything you see at face value and ask for more evidence!
I mean it could, but if the person had 2 braincells they would just make a new free trial account for that character, you can see that he only linked on /say chat, pretty sure free trials can't shout and such. so the question is, does the person who made it had those 2 braincells to do so?
@ the person that screwed up the fake screenshots, that person right, that person went out of their way to use a free trail account to do it? sure, that is possible.
@@andretozatti7896 They might not have known about the Account ID vulnerability at the time, which I think makes it less likely they bothered with a new acc
Real or not, the biggest problem to me is how unhinged the FFXIV community is growing to be. You have to be equally as crazy to say this stuff, as you would be to fake it. The new stalking mod makes me feel even more depressed with where the community is going. I don't know if that's getting to be all MMOs but I can remember playing FFXIV from when it first came out and seeing people become more and more unsettling makes me really sad :( I'm thankful enough to have met all the right people and keep them close to me, but stuff like this makes me wanna avoid socializing with potential scary people.
thing is its literally been this way for years, as bad if not worse at times ever since like even heavensward i remember some fucked cases in private linkshells, discords glad i quit and live irl nowadays
It's been getting really bad during content droughts the last few years. People who aren't as heavily invested in the game/community move on and you're left with the most dedicated players. Some of whom are extremely unhinged, and are now in a situation where they don't have as much game content to occupy their time. I will say there's been a lot of unrest within the community in general. A lot of people unhappy about Dawntrail MSQ and the general state of the game since EW patches. Just some ugly emotions that are bleeding into all these different corners of the game
I was a bit skeptical myself. I’m tech savvy enough to know how easy the “evidence” was to fake. For those of you that don’t know discord is basically a dressed up browser window and as such has an inspect element function. You can use this inspect element function to change pretty much anything displayed client side. Changing text is a cakewalk. Basic skills in photoshop could also accomplish what was done here. Basically what i’m trying to get at is screenshots prove nothing.
Yeah it's just not enough in this day and age. Editing tools are abundant, and people who don't know what they're doing can learn within minutes. This isn't the mid-2000s, you can't just blindly trust the validity of screenshots
If we know the character who posted these images on the XIV server, all Mist needs to do is to talk to a lawyer specialised in an anonymous social media defamation case and get the information of the character's account disclosed by SE. Then he can file a lawsuit. Ez money. It's also gonna be another funny FFXIV's-amazing-community shenanigans.
I am going to say this. As a person who was a MP in the Army, false claims happen A LOT. People wonder why police don't take victims that serious. Well it is people like this that cause it. I have watched good men loose literally everything based on false accusations. One NCO in my unit had to get reclassed, wife divorced him (at which he had to pay alimony and now child support) and got a full grade article 15 (loosing his rank from E-5 to E-1, had to pay money to the Army, lost a ton of benefits and had to do extra duty). All because 2 females called rape on him when they got caught "ontop" of him while he was passed out drunk on a couch. Luckily the person that caught them was also sleeping with one of the girls in question. Fast forward a month later they were bragging about it while drunk to one of the females in my platoon. She got pissed and went straight to our First Sergeant. Damage was done and there was no way to reverse what happened to him. So those 2 girls got a "wall to wall counseling" from every female in our unit. Basically for you civi's they beat the shit out of the 2 accusers. I could go on for days with stories about girls getting fake i.d.'s going to clubs and ending up in soldier's barracks and trying to call rape because they were afraid of being in trouble.
False accusations are serious. I know a person going through it. He was cuffed without warning. He fought the case and won (she done this before to people), but it wasnt the end. She harrassed him and made him lose several job opportunities. Messaged family and friends, and even tried to get her friends to attack him. He currently has a restaining order, which she broke several and they still in court. Last meeting she wasnt prepared so they have to delay it. This isnt against women saying they're all liars, but it would be unfare to take things at face value and potentially ruin a life.
I have a thought. Nobody happened to catch that lalafell alt with that stalker plugin where you can tell which characters are on the same account? Getting 100% confirmation rather than being 99.9% sure could be neat.
@@ArcaneGE Considering they didn't fake their Discord environment properly, I wouldn't assume they thought to brave the ffxiv website to create an extra trial account. But they could have, yes.
What I don't like is when these types of things get proven as fake the same streamers and people who were all woe is me over these things never apologize for knee jerking and believing it immediately nor do they apologize for shitting on people who ask for more proof or the targets of the lies.
discord screenshots should never be used as envidence you can just source inspect edit on the browser version and make anyone look like they said anything
Well the lesson is to listen to the claim and observe the evidence, not ignore either. While doing that you don't ever harass attack or form an opinion about the one being slandered either. Just remain silently cautious. Let time and more evidence show up to see who is right. There's a reason our court system is innocent until proven guilty. I remembered being like one of the few people defending Chris Avellone cause the evidence of him was sketch and inconsistent. Goes to court and the slandering women admit they were bullshitting. He lost his jobs on multiple games and was instantly blacklisted from the industry. Every project he was on and cut from suffered and became shit or never got released. Think of all the other people working on those things with him also getting screwed financially just cause some jealous slut wanted to ruin a guy's life randomly one day.
@@Stiksta My intention was to imply that I'm on Xeem's side. He never downplays victims, he just tries to be sure that they're actually victims first. He goes out of his way to acknowledge that the female streamers were targeted specifically because they had audiences and how that's obviously bad. I admit I've never heard of Chris Avellone. So I can't weigh in on what happened with that one. I just know that some people can swing the pendulum too hard the other way, away from being sympathetic when its appropriate to be.
I feel that a large chunk of the people against the plug-in are people who would potentially be caught being 'weird/freaks' with their alts. Ive had an experience when I was younger with someone in a different game using alts without my knowledge in order to "test" my character as a person. Even though I "passed" their test I felt cheated/lied to.
@@PrinnyLord yeah, that's most likely the case, also people sometimes care too much about privacy in an mmorpg even though vast majority of the playerbase are just nobodies that noone really gonna care if you have alts on balmung for some futa erp or whatever. It's a social game and you do you, and if you're having fun with other consenting people like that then sure go for it. Main downside of the plugin is that it gives more power to the stalkers. But it'd still blame SE for not giving harsher punishments for people that go out of their way to make other people experience worse. Personally i'd rather have this plugin blacklist the entire account (even tho my blacklist is empty lol) rather than viewing detailed info of other players :v Also yeah, kids like to "test" people this way, had sth similar happen and while it's kinda scummy and dishonest people fortunately seem to grow out of these kinds of ideas.
zero surprise what so ever and of course all the people who dog piled on xeno won't admit they were wrong after all the name calling they did, this community is cooked.
Charlamane tha God always says "If, when you fall, people that were once close to you suddenly flip on you and start hating on you, that just means they were always hating and just waiting for their justification." Really sucks that homie lost some friends due to this, but at the same time just take it as a blessing. God showed you who would doubt your character and flip on you immediately, and you didn't need those people in the first place. Glad it resolved relatively quick and not much damage was done to him
How much of a loser do you have to be to fake something like this? I'm glad that someone was able to do some detective work. I don't think everyone who thought this could be real are stupid or naive though, because who fakes a screenshot to accuse 2 random guys that nobody's heard of? That's unhinged
God bless detectives. I imagine a lot of us were raised by our parents to not believe everything you see on the internet. And yet so many do see something online once and carry that forever. We really living in that meme saying, “You really think that someone would just go in the internet and lie.”
I'm not sure how powerful it is, but something I was curious about was if there's a way to see a log of all the past servers you've been a part of on discord, and apparently you can request a log of your discord data and they'll send it to you. So I guess another way you "could" prove it, though it feels really extreme, is to simply have those two people get their Server list from the log, and search for any servers they've both been apart of, and search for any messages from them what align with what was said here. I think its a massive invasion of privacy to ask either of them to do that just to show they're innocent, more so just saying that if you really need to push for innocence, it feels like they do provide the info you'd need.
The actually shame here is that this sort of crap makes it harder for actual victims to come forward, cause unless there's a sleuth like this time then they're just kinda fucked
I have been pranked by meatspin, rickroll and other interent pranks, that is why I never trust anything especially if it is screenshots only screenrecording i would better but only if its fullscreen and not 144p zoomed in. And thank you Xenos for being one of the content creators who actually use their head etc.
I tend to believe those kind of claims online due to mob mentality and personal bias. The way you talked about that whole imgur drama really made me think on the way I handle that stuff. Valuable lesson.
I mean the point is, despite it ending up being fake, people dont take this stuff seriously at all when they should The amount of people who hand waved it was gross The entire point behind situations like this, is actually treat it like a serious matter, and even if you dont believe it or arent convinced, be respectful in the way you approach the topic and be understanding Because what if it wasnt? Its not an unlikely thing, especially in recent light in FFXIV with the weird stalker plug-ins Its a believable situation, and unfortuntely, "X is a good person imo", never tracks, theres a reason people say "its the people you least expect" Its just a case of treat it with the severity it deserves, and A LOT of people didnt, and just hand waved it and said "Nah lol" Worse yet, alot of people were in support of it or thought it was funny or said it was "based"
The internet "autists" did it again! I love this shit, some of these people should be in digital forensics jobs. In a strange turn of events, though, that stalker plugin would have had some use here to identify the owner of said throw away Lalafell. That isn't to say that the plugin should exist, not at all.
Excellent work xeems. Twitter would rather crucify you than look for facts and evidence. Moral of the story is If you use twitter please reconsider or something
Nice try. You only posted this to discredit my screenshots of you confirming your love to me via DM. On an unrelated note, I need to go change my theme real quick, brb.
The problem is that younger folks on the internet often miss the skills of critical thinking ... My kid comes running with some obviously fake short video and say look it's real ...
These comments under your twitter posts are insane. But let's be honest here to me this is so much projection going on there. People should be really careful to pile on others like that. If you think or feel a certain way about someone else. If something bothers you so much... think hard if maybe you are that person. And then maybe don't type on the internet.
Is this some new viral gate stuff that is going on right now on X or something? All kinds of dramas happen every single day, and false accusations aren't even the worst of it. Why so much attention to this particular one?
People seem to forget that Discord isn't just an app - it's a browser-based program. The developer tools built into the browser version are accessible to every single end user with a Discord account and a keyboard. With a few keystrokes, a few minutes of your time, and absolutely no special code or programs or tools, you can use Discord to change people's posts to say literally ANYTHING. You can make their post say whatever the hell you want. You can create as many fake screenshots as you like.
Discord screenshots are some of the worst forms of "evidence" on the internet right now. Xeno was on the right track taking a video recording of his message history like he did in the previous video concerning this topic - it's a hell of a lot harder to fake a video recording with what i've outlined above due to how the editing works, and to my knowledge you need the browser program to do it, not the app.
Bottom line, take Xeno's advice - don't believe everything you see on the internet.
You actually can inspect element edit in the desktop discord app with developer mode enabled and by pressing ctrl + shift + i, so not even the app is safe from this kinda stuff. The edited HTML is reverted when changing channels, but video splicing is always possible in non-streamed video evidence... so really recordings of the mobile app would be the only, as far as I know, fully trustworthy evidence.
@@Jaysus273yep! Welcome to the world of react framework based applications contained within an electron shell.
Not only did this person fabricate the images to destroy the reputation of others, but they themselves are the ones who created the vile stuff about the women in the images. Truly deplorable.
if only these detectives could find xemo some hair
They did, but Xeno put it on his chin
Xeno*
@@TaniaRavenYT you must be fun at parties.
@@TaniaRavenYT Its xemo
@@TaniaRavenYT He underwent xemo and became bald
Man so many people labeled him a misogynist on twitter for calling it fake, they must feel so stupid realizing it's fake, and that a woman made this.
Unfortunately they're too stupid to even notice their own stupidity
LOL
nobody on twitter thinks or feels anything and have probably already forgotten this happened.
Bro they don't care. People on twitter hear "female victims" and they just run with it with their hands covering their ears and their eyes CLOSED yet mouth wide open spewing their bs.
Nah, zero remorse, they're Twitter Andies that only care about getting mad. They'll say stupid shit like "yea, but it could have been true" or something absurd like that.
I know we all meme on baldicante, but telling people to just stop and think about things for a day is genuinely great advice in this day and age. Jumping to conclusions the second you see something does nothing but perpetuate reactionary bs
Discord detectives cooked on this one ain't gonna lie
Absolute cinema
Too late buddy, twitter already forgotten about this. They finished their witch hunting session and moved on already waiting for their next victims. Like always, there will be no responsibility taken too.
all the streamers accusing those innocent people with public posts didn't even apologize about it lol
@Ais-FF even if they know the truth, they will never apologize. If anything they'll feel they're the heroes that protect the ladies in need. Honestly twitter hivemind is one of the lowest form of society i know.
@@docf8202 Honestly, this extends to other Content Creators as well. As long as they don't get backlash from it, they'll be fine. They technically "can't" get backlash from it because they didn't know and all in all they did it for the "greater good of the 'community'".
@@Ais-FF Yup. Midnababy and SaoriV didn't take down their tweets DESPITE this being proven false.
What a joke. Call out misogyny & vile actions falsely... and then then don't even take accountability by apologizing when proven wrong.
@@TS-uc4hi Damn, sucks to see Midna stoop to that shit
And not a single apology to anyone who doubted this shit. Award-winning community btw.
Why is everybody so hung up on the idea that is the "community" that won the awards...
They community award is for the community managing on square side like the duty commenced people, the forum mods, etc...
@@Irisfantasiesit's one of the biggest selling points new players hear about. "The community is incredible and unlike any other!" And other bullshit like that.
You should know that those people hating on you won't fold because of this. They don't care they just think their always right
Fuck em then lol
Yeah it's like Destiny fans hating on Hasan, there's no logical basis or justification for their actions. Just pure childish malice
Glad this came to light. I've known Mist for awhile, and he never came across like someone displayed in those Imgurs. I raided with him during Top, and he was always kind, helpful, and supportive of everyone in the group.
It's disgusting that people can do such terrible things to smear someone's name.
So easily, too. It really is disturbing. And people bought it hook, line and sinker
Im honored to be a part of this saga in a small way, i had a lovely chat with Zeems after and have decided he’s a cute streamer who is right. Don’t believe everything you see at face value and ask for more evidence!
if that stalker mod can retroactively find the unique id of the throwaway character you could find out their main
I mean it could, but if the person had 2 braincells they would just make a new free trial account for that character, you can see that he only linked on /say chat, pretty sure free trials can't shout and such.
so the question is, does the person who made it had those 2 braincells to do so?
@@andretozatti7896pretty sure that person wasn't too bright.
oh snap you right
@ the person that screwed up the fake screenshots, that person right, that person went out of their way to use a free trail account to do it? sure, that is possible.
@@andretozatti7896 They might not have known about the Account ID vulnerability at the time, which I think makes it less likely they bothered with a new acc
excellent work my liege
Real or not, the biggest problem to me is how unhinged the FFXIV community is growing to be. You have to be equally as crazy to say this stuff, as you would be to fake it. The new stalking mod makes me feel even more depressed with where the community is going. I don't know if that's getting to be all MMOs but I can remember playing FFXIV from when it first came out and seeing people become more and more unsettling makes me really sad :( I'm thankful enough to have met all the right people and keep them close to me, but stuff like this makes me wanna avoid socializing with potential scary people.
thing is its literally been this way for years, as bad if not worse at times ever since like even heavensward i remember some fucked cases in private linkshells, discords glad i quit and live irl nowadays
It's been getting really bad during content droughts the last few years. People who aren't as heavily invested in the game/community move on and you're left with the most dedicated players. Some of whom are extremely unhinged, and are now in a situation where they don't have as much game content to occupy their time.
I will say there's been a lot of unrest within the community in general. A lot of people unhappy about Dawntrail MSQ and the general state of the game since EW patches. Just some ugly emotions that are bleeding into all these different corners of the game
I was a bit skeptical myself. I’m tech savvy enough to know how easy the “evidence” was to fake. For those of you that don’t know discord is basically a dressed up browser window and as such has an inspect element function. You can use this inspect element function to change pretty much anything displayed client side. Changing text is a cakewalk. Basic skills in photoshop could also accomplish what was done here. Basically what i’m trying to get at is screenshots prove nothing.
Yeah it's just not enough in this day and age. Editing tools are abundant, and people who don't know what they're doing can learn within minutes. This isn't the mid-2000s, you can't just blindly trust the validity of screenshots
man if xeno were to make a podcast i would listen to it
Holy heck Sherlock! Glad you are on the case. Actually found this pretty interesting. And your excitement level was equally entertaining.
If we know the character who posted these images on the XIV server, all Mist needs to do is to talk to a lawyer specialised in an anonymous social media defamation case and get the information of the character's account disclosed by SE. Then he can file a lawsuit. Ez money. It's also gonna be another funny FFXIV's-amazing-community shenanigans.
I am going to say this. As a person who was a MP in the Army, false claims happen A LOT. People wonder why police don't take victims that serious. Well it is people like this that cause it. I have watched good men loose literally everything based on false accusations. One NCO in my unit had to get reclassed, wife divorced him (at which he had to pay alimony and now child support) and got a full grade article 15 (loosing his rank from E-5 to E-1, had to pay money to the Army, lost a ton of benefits and had to do extra duty). All because 2 females called rape on him when they got caught "ontop" of him while he was passed out drunk on a couch. Luckily the person that caught them was also sleeping with one of the girls in question. Fast forward a month later they were bragging about it while drunk to one of the females in my platoon. She got pissed and went straight to our First Sergeant. Damage was done and there was no way to reverse what happened to him. So those 2 girls got a "wall to wall counseling" from every female in our unit. Basically for you civi's they beat the shit out of the 2 accusers. I could go on for days with stories about girls getting fake i.d.'s going to clubs and ending up in soldier's barracks and trying to call rape because they were afraid of being in trouble.
Absolutely disgusting, and the fact that this causes real accusations to be not taken as serious as it should is abominable.
@@alexander3283 Exactly. My heart goes out to those real victims who have to be treated as such because of people like this.
False accusations are serious. I know a person going through it. He was cuffed without warning. He fought the case and won (she done this before to people), but it wasnt the end. She harrassed him and made him lose several job opportunities. Messaged family and friends, and even tried to get her friends to attack him. He currently has a restaining order, which she broke several and they still in court. Last meeting she wasnt prepared so they have to delay it.
This isnt against women saying they're all liars, but it would be unfare to take things at face value and potentially ruin a life.
Yeah, this sort of thing doesn't happen very often, but often enough to necessitate needing facts and evidence. The best advice is trust, but verify
@Slumbering_Alex Exactly. Both sides can lie. The law has to do the job right.
I have a thought. Nobody happened to catch that lalafell alt with that stalker plugin where you can tell which characters are on the same account? Getting 100% confirmation rather than being 99.9% sure could be neat.
They were likely on a throwaway free trial account since they posted it in say chat so I don't think this would work, but who knows.
@@ArcaneGE Considering they didn't fake their Discord environment properly, I wouldn't assume they thought to brave the ffxiv website to create an extra trial account. But they could have, yes.
You know what, maybe PlayerScope is a necessary evil. Imagine if you could find the main character of this new alt character.
We can use that creepy plugin to know who the account is lmao. It came out and actually had a good use.
What I don't like is when these types of things get proven as fake the same streamers and people who were all woe is me over these things never apologize for knee jerking and believing it immediately nor do they apologize for shitting on people who ask for more proof or the targets of the lies.
i had to witness all the twitter comments shitting on xeno but at the end of the day I knew xeno is always my role model
This guy is always right.
Well you can say he's right but "role model" is too far
that's sad
His evidence-based approach means he will often be in the right. Noone is perfect but his perspective on these kinds of subjects is very reasonable.
discord screenshots should never be used as envidence you can just source inspect edit on the browser version and make anyone look like they said anything
I try to straddle the line, I want to give potential victims the benefit of the doubt but evidence is important.
Well the lesson is to listen to the claim and observe the evidence, not ignore either. While doing that you don't ever harass attack or form an opinion about the one being slandered either. Just remain silently cautious.
Let time and more evidence show up to see who is right. There's a reason our court system is innocent until proven guilty.
I remembered being like one of the few people defending Chris Avellone cause the evidence of him was sketch and inconsistent. Goes to court and the slandering women admit they were bullshitting. He lost his jobs on multiple games and was instantly blacklisted from the industry.
Every project he was on and cut from suffered and became shit or never got released. Think of all the other people working on those things with him also getting screwed financially just cause some jealous slut wanted to ruin a guy's life randomly one day.
@@Stiksta My intention was to imply that I'm on Xeem's side. He never downplays victims, he just tries to be sure that they're actually victims first. He goes out of his way to acknowledge that the female streamers were targeted specifically because they had audiences and how that's obviously bad.
I admit I've never heard of Chris Avellone. So I can't weigh in on what happened with that one. I just know that some people can swing the pendulum too hard the other way, away from being sympathetic when its appropriate to be.
that stalking plugin seems suddenly not that bad If we could trace the main character through that throwaway character
I feel that a large chunk of the people against the plug-in are people who would potentially be caught being 'weird/freaks' with their alts.
Ive had an experience when I was younger with someone in a different game using alts without my knowledge in order to "test" my character as a person. Even though I "passed" their test I felt cheated/lied to.
@@PrinnyLord yeah, that's most likely the case, also people sometimes care too much about privacy in an mmorpg even though vast majority of the playerbase are just nobodies that noone really gonna care if you have alts on balmung for some futa erp or whatever. It's a social game and you do you, and if you're having fun with other consenting people like that then sure go for it. Main downside of the plugin is that it gives more power to the stalkers. But it'd still blame SE for not giving harsher punishments for people that go out of their way to make other people experience worse. Personally i'd rather have this plugin blacklist the entire account (even tho my blacklist is empty lol) rather than viewing detailed info of other players :v
Also yeah, kids like to "test" people this way, had sth similar happen and while it's kinda scummy and dishonest people fortunately seem to grow out of these kinds of ideas.
Not the stalker app about to help with this issue lol
Bald strummer teaches shut in gamers critical thinking skills.
can never get sick of detective xenos 👨❤👨
Man, this community is so great. On one hand, they love and care about each other. On the other hand, this.
zero surprise what so ever and of course all the people who dog piled on xeno won't admit they were wrong after all the name calling they did, this community is cooked.
honestly, to rub more salt on the people that called you all types of names. Sending this video to your twitter account would be hilarious.
Let us not forget that at the end of the day, Xeno is still bald
i bet theyre watching this vid with their alts commenting here
Charlamane tha God always says "If, when you fall, people that were once close to you suddenly flip on you and start hating on you, that just means they were always hating and just waiting for their justification." Really sucks that homie lost some friends due to this, but at the same time just take it as a blessing. God showed you who would doubt your character and flip on you immediately, and you didn't need those people in the first place. Glad it resolved relatively quick and not much damage was done to him
How much of a loser do you have to be to fake something like this? I'm glad that someone was able to do some detective work. I don't think everyone who thought this could be real are stupid or naive though, because who fakes a screenshot to accuse 2 random guys that nobody's heard of? That's unhinged
God bless detectives. I imagine a lot of us were raised by our parents to not believe everything you see on the internet. And yet so many do see something online once and carry that forever. We really living in that meme saying, “You really think that someone would just go in the internet and lie.”
19:42 That's crazy. And it's so pathetic that *adults* actually do that. Smh
CSI Baldo...amazing. Keep it up.
I'm not sure how powerful it is, but something I was curious about was if there's a way to see a log of all the past servers you've been a part of on discord, and apparently you can request a log of your discord data and they'll send it to you. So I guess another way you "could" prove it, though it feels really extreme, is to simply have those two people get their Server list from the log, and search for any servers they've both been apart of, and search for any messages from them what align with what was said here.
I think its a massive invasion of privacy to ask either of them to do that just to show they're innocent, more so just saying that if you really need to push for innocence, it feels like they do provide the info you'd need.
That gradient analysis is crazy thank God there's no content in ffxiv (xdd) so someone could investigate that in such detail 😂
Lies take the elevator, truth takes the stairs. Sadly.
The actually shame here is that this sort of crap makes it harder for actual victims to come forward, cause unless there's a sleuth like this time then they're just kinda fucked
I have been pranked by meatspin, rickroll and other interent pranks, that is why I never trust anything especially if it is screenshots only
screenrecording i would better but only if its fullscreen and not 144p zoomed in.
And thank you Xenos for being one of the content creators who actually use their head etc.
Use that stalker plugin to find out who has that lvl 2 marauder on their account
I tend to believe those kind of claims online due to mob mentality and personal bias. The way you talked about that whole imgur drama really made me think on the way I handle that stuff. Valuable lesson.
I mean the point is, despite it ending up being fake, people dont take this stuff seriously at all when they should
The amount of people who hand waved it was gross
The entire point behind situations like this, is actually treat it like a serious matter, and even if you dont believe it or arent convinced, be respectful in the way you approach the topic and be understanding
Because what if it wasnt? Its not an unlikely thing, especially in recent light in FFXIV with the weird stalker plug-ins
Its a believable situation, and unfortuntely, "X is a good person imo", never tracks, theres a reason people say "its the people you least expect"
Its just a case of treat it with the severity it deserves, and A LOT of people didnt, and just hand waved it and said "Nah lol"
Worse yet, alot of people were in support of it or thought it was funny or said it was "based"
Well well well
what a low effort fake lmao you can recreate this scene in less than 30 seconds
Now I want to see the hivemind of redditors refuting this
Very interesting as the hex codes on a standard webpage can contain data too ala’ cryptography. Thanks for sharing!
you know ff14 is in an all time low when some random drama spawn so the community gets entertained by something else but the game.
Isn’t there that sus plugin/mod that allows users to finds alts? Can it be used to find the alt of that account that first posted the Imgur?
If you lie on the internet there’s a 99.9% chance someone will dedicate their time to finding the truth.
thats absolutely insane..
Something somthing bald work, my liege. :3
Time to use the playerScope plugin to find out if it's an alt of a certain character :^)
The internet "autists" did it again! I love this shit, some of these people should be in digital forensics jobs.
In a strange turn of events, though, that stalker plugin would have had some use here to identify the owner of said throw away Lalafell. That isn't to say that the plugin should exist, not at all.
How does the bro play with that many rings on his hand? He eventually takes them off right?
I hope not.
I love detective shit like this.
Wonder if its possible to find out who faked this shit lol
Do you really think some one would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies? :0
Excellent work xeems. Twitter would rather crucify you than look for facts and evidence. Moral of the story is
If you use twitter please reconsider or something
not all of twitter is bad just stay away from drama side of twitter.
yo couldnt someone use the stalker plugin and find out who was behind the account?
Can you provide a link to the detective document explaining the fraud? The link you are reading from in the video is no longer available
absolutely - imgur.com/a/9V1ALcX
@ thank you!
You just earned a sub from me.
You can tell by the pixels.
XIV players are so sex brained, brother. Why can't they be more like Xeems and play for loot and ERP off-stream? (I have no proof of this)
Can that stalker plugin be used to find who that alt belongs to?
When are you gonna address the bald allegations
We really need a new raid tier don’t we 😂
Nice try. You only posted this to discredit my screenshots of you confirming your love to me via DM. On an unrelated note, I need to go change my theme real quick, brb.
The problem is that younger folks on the internet often miss the skills of critical thinking ... My kid comes running with some obviously fake short video and say look it's real ...
All your hatewatchers is from lack of react vids
Does the dithering on the discord match the dithering on your bald head?
Excellent exoneration my liege.
These comments under your twitter posts are insane.
But let's be honest here to me this is so much projection going on there. People should be really careful to pile on others like that.
If you think or feel a certain way about someone else. If something bothers you so much... think hard if maybe you are that person. And then maybe don't type on the internet.
Bald Detective, are you open for hire? 😂
but yeah analyzing this is interesting
might actually be a good time to use that so called hated playerscope to know who created that fake account to spread the imgur
You’d think after the JD trial a few years back people would question claims.
Detective baldy strikes again
Is this some new viral gate stuff that is going on right now on X or something? All kinds of dramas happen every single day, and false accusations aren't even the worst of it. Why so much attention to this particular one?
Excellent farming my liege
His haircut is fake xff
Never seen such incel behavior in my life, who does this type of shit?
AzuraFocushearth been real quiet ever since this dropped 😂
pure cinema
I wish he could play the game with the same passion he runs his mouth
Who ever investigated this needs to be a real life detective
knew this shit was fake the second i saw it
Plot twist: Xeno made the whole thing up because FFXIV is so dead that he has nothing to talk about.....
great work my liege