How Every Murder in Danganronpa is Justified
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- Have you ever wondered how every Danganronpa death is justified?
Every killer had a reason and thus a motive to kill. But how is it justified? Or morally correct? Find out in this video!
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Your favorite character killed my favorite character therefor you favorite character is the worst character >:(
Your favorite character to die
Cancelled
I’m so sorry about that…
The Danganronpa fandom in a nutshell
@@I_like_fries The Fandom is a whole killing game in itself
Can't get anymore justifiable than suicide for the sake of saving the others. Sakura was a pure soul
#JUSTICEFORMYGIRLSAKURA
*#RESPECTFORSAKURA*
And gundham
@@ultimate_capper3643 and nekomaru
And Gundham/Nekomaru who practically sacrificed themselves for everyone else.
I think what a lot of people forget is that Nekomaru was willing to make the same sacrifice as Gundham. Both were willing to die for the others, the victim gets people the food, and the killer gets executed after getting everyone out of the tower. It just mattered on who won the duel to determine the roles, because no matter who won, they were going to go to the trial not planning on escaping, rather making sure they get caught to ensure everyone else's survival
EXACTLY NEKOMARU IS FORGOTTEN
Nekomaru deserves justice he's the most underrated danganropa 2 character. My 3rd favourite character overall
Gundham didn't want to get caught, that would conflict his whole philosophy.
@@galarstar052 Yes which is why he gave it his all in the trial. But he knew everyone would starve, including himself, if there wasn't a murder. It still fits with his philosophy
@@galarstar052 yeah, while if nekomaru won he most likely would have just confessed. Gundham is the “dark lord”. But I feel like if the others were about to vote wrong, while he wouldn’t outright confess, he wouldn’t just let the others vote wrong either.
I love how Tsumugi being the true murderer of Rantaro isn’t even justified. Being a Danganronpa fan would never be justifiable.
Says a Danganronpa fan to hundreds of Danganronpa fans
@@thenagito damn don't ruin it 😒
I'm going to hell anyways
As a danganronpa fan I will not hesitate to admit that you are not wrong
you could say she did it to make the fans happy and to keep peace in the outside world, and even then its possible a flashback light was used to make her the mastermind
She was a writer for danganronpa who made it into the killing game. Her job was to entertain people; to keep the fans on the edges of their seats.
Nagito casually saying he's gonna kill someone is one of the funniest things I've ever seen
he looks so smug too xD all "watcha gonna do about it? huh? HUUUH?"
,,lmfao. ur not gonna do anything. you look like you barely can run a 100m* in school''
*meter
@@AM12399this is why i stan nagito ✨🧨
Celestia and Tsumugi’s murders will never be justified since both of them killed for selfish reasons (Tsumugi killed Rantaro and framed Kaede cos she wants to make the killing game go on and Celestia wanted the money)
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Note: I like both of them.
Actually, the real reason for Tsumugi was that she had to go through with Kaede's murder plan which was already ppre-programmed, but it failed so she had to fix it, or else the killing game would be ruined, and a lot of money would be wasted. So it was more for entertainement then selfishness
@@kaykansan9135 oh I see, that’s still not a justified reason but I like Tsumugi cos she is best girl
@@magicalgirlfan1 finally someone who doesn't hate tsumugi
I love her so much
@@aquaderae8147 me too! I actually relate to her so much!
@@magicalgirlfan1 Every danganronpa fan kins her
Surprised that you didn't include the detail of Ryoma willingly letting himself be killed by Kirumi. Granted, part of it was because he no longer had any reason to live, but a major part of it was because he was willing to give his life to someone who had more to live for.
Exactly
@Minty does things he deserved better
Mhm
Ryoma commit an actual suicide by requesting to kill him. It might ended as a murder but ryoma did it as his last request on kirumi.
But the scratches on the sink suggest that he did fight for his life. It's unknown if it was a response to drowning or if, at the very last second, he wanted to live.
Danganronpa fans trying to defend their fav characters :
The word "Justified" means that it was done for a good / legitimate reason.
Leon had every opportunity to walk away or get help after Sayaka was stuck in the bathroom. True, the others might not believe him, and yes he was probably scared out of his mind. But the fact remains that he did kill Sayaka when he had every chance to escape without anyone dying. I'm not saying I dislike or hate him for it, many people (probably myself included) would have been similarly scared out of our minds. So while understandable, I wouldn't say it is justified.
Mondo, similarly, did not have to kill Chihiro. He's emotionally unstable, and flew into a rage. It was understandable that he ended up acting that way, but it was not justifed. This coming from a Mondo fan myself. And it was very kind of him to try and hide the secret of Chihiro's gender, still doesn't make the murder justified.
Kiyotaka's murder is slightly more justified. Hifumi was under two false assumptions. Firstly, that Kiyotaka had threatened Celestia. And secondly, that Alter Ego was in immediate danger. Alter Ego may be an AI, but as shown in Danganronpa 2 with Chiaki, I think we can say that AI is alive in some shape or form. Hifumi was an idiot, and should have shared this information with everyone so Kiyotaka wouldn't kill either of them, as it would surely get him an execution. While stupid, the motive has good intent behind it. I don't know if I would call it justified, but it's much more justified than Leon and Mondo's motives.
Celestia is not justified in the slightest. While Hifumi was a murderer, she made him one by manipulating him into committing the murder in the first place. On top of that, her motive was not to get rid of a murderer, it was to obtain the cash prize reward. Her killing is probably the least justifiable in the whole series.
Sakura's death was completely justified. She killed herself as she (probably correctly) assumed that her continued presence would merely cause more chaos and confusion. It's unlikely that the survivors would have ever united if Sakura was still there, as Byakuya, Toko and Yasuhiro would have trouble trusting her. While incredibly tragic, Sakura probably had one of the most justifiable motives in the whole series.
Mukuro's death was not justified. While she had committed atrocious acts, being justified means that the reasoning behind it must be good or legitimate. Junko's reason for killing Mukuro is so for despair. So both of them could feel the utter despair of their beloved sibling dying, or by being betrayed. The most you can say is that Junko is mentally ill, which isn't justifiable, but provides the insight that she was (in an absolutely insane and incorrect way) trying to do good to others the only way she knew how. This goes for pretty much all of Junko's murders. However, and I'll say it loud, MENTAL ILLNESS IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR MURDER.
The Imposter's murder was justified...? Teruteru wanted to kill the killer before they killed anyone else. Seems fair. The point of contention is that instead of revealing that he was the murderer, he tried to let everyone else die so he could escape and visit his mother. Here's the thing though, that goes for pretty much every other murderer in the series. While trying to get everyone else to die isn't justifiable, this murder specifically was. So I guess disclaimer, trying to get the rest of the class killed isn't justifiable, for anyone. But the murder alone in this case, was justifiable.
Peko is not justified. if her goal was only to protect Fuyuhiko, she could have done this by preventing him from killing Mahiru, something she could easily do. Instead, she chose to kill Mahiru for the purpose of letting Fuyuhiko escape while everyone else died. This is amoral as her plan would have caused everyone to die for one person to live. I did say I wouldn't count actions taken after the murder had taken place, however, in this case the plan was for everyone else to die from the start. She did the killing with this goal in mind, unlike everyone else up until this point (exception being Junko obviously).
In my eyes, Mikan's killings cannot be justified because it was not her who killed them. By any reasonable metric, Junko killed them herself. As the DR3 anime has shown us, Mikan was literally brainwashed. That was not her anymore, her free will was taken away from her and was replaced by, essentially, Junko Lite. Mikan literally did not have any choice in the matter, it was not her fault.
Gundham is justified. It was pretty implied that he and Nekomaru made an unspoken pact to kill one of them so that the rest could survive. The plan and idea was for both of them to sacrifice themselves. One could argue otherwise, as Gundham clearly did not reveal himself during the trial, I personally interpret that as him simply getting cold feet. While this one is very much up for interpretation, I believe Gundham to be justified.
Nagito was surprisingly 100% justified. The Remnants of Despair were mass murderers who caused the near-end of the world. He devised a plan to spare the world and kill the problem at the source, while sparing the only one who was truly innocent. Even though they were brainwashed, they were major threats. If even one of the Remnants of Despair was able to escape with their memories intact, the world would be in severe danger. So honestly, yeah, Nagito was justified. Weird.
Although, side note, Nagito was NOT justified for the attempted murder in Chapter 1. While good-intentioned, it's good-intentioned on the same level of mental illness as Junko. His motives are pure, but he's being corrupted by his worldview, making his actions despicable.
(Also Chiaki is obviously justified, she killed him on complete accident)
Kaede was obviously justified. There was a timer ticking down towards the death of all 16 students. According to Shuichi's deductions, the one in charge of all of this was likely among them. Kaede wanted to spare everyone else by killing one person who was very, very likely to be the Mastermind. The fact that it wasn't was a tragic accident, but it still saved everyone else. Kaede's motive was pure and her intention true.
Ryoma consented to his death. I don't know what else to say. Ryoma let himself die for a greater purpose, so Kirumi was justified in killing him. Her intention was to save an entire nation, even if I was counting her trying to kill the rest of the students, saving a country full of people is a very justifiable motive.
Korekiyo was not justified. His manipulation at the hands of his sister certainly existed, but she was not the one making him kill all those innocent girls. She was not guiding him towards this goal as Celestia did to Hifumi. The best you could say is that he was mentally ill, similarly to Junko. But once again, while providing insight to his (somewhat) good intentioned motives, being mentally ill is not an excuse for his awful actions.
Gonta was justified in a similar way Hifumi was. He was shown the despair of the "real" world and wished to save everyone from it. Not only that, but Miu was planning on killing Kokichi, and he wished to stop that. He was manipulated, and he did bad things, but he was good intentioned on every level. While a bit of a dumb move, he wanted to help people. Justified.
Kokichi is also justified for his own murder. And so was Kaito. Kokichi wanted to end the Killing Game, his death would have caused that. Pretty simple in this case.
HOWEVER, like with Nagito, he was not justified for the death of Miu / Gonta. The best I can figure out was that his plan was to have Miu killed because he needed the current survivors to believe he was the Mastermind in Chapter 5. Miu would have known it was bullshit, as she designed the weapons he used in the first place. Gonta seems to have just been collateral damage. He never truly intended to keep Gonta's murder a secret. While this did tie into his overall plan to end the killing game, I can't say that it is justified. Unlike with his Chapter 5 plan, he killed two other people when he knew full well he did not have to. I believe he only did so because he did not trust that no other killings would occur without his interference. So... I can see why some would think he was justified, as his plan would stop the entire killing game, but his plan had a few holes in it. Mainly, the fact that Tsumugi messed his plan up with the flashback light. I think that he MIGHT have been good-intentioned, but his way of going about it was going way too far. I can't say that he was justified for that.
You also didn't mention Junko's death, Tsumugi's death or Rantaro's death at the hands of Tsumugi. Junko's was plain old suicide, for the sake of her despair. Suicide due to mental illness, understandable, not justifiable. Tsumugi was killed by Keebo, but it's hard to tell how much of it was on purpose. Either way, justfiied, as it freed the remaining cast (which he did seem to want to save). Lastly, Tsumugi was not justified in killing Rantaro just for the sake of her story. Obviously.
TLDR
Justified People Include:
Hifumi Yamada
Sakura Ogami
Teruteru Hanamura
Mikan Tsumiki (Although I don't count these as her kills because she was brainwashed)
Gundham Tanaka
Nagito Komaeda (Only for his assisted suicide, his attempt to kill in Chapter 1 was not)
Chiaki Nanami
Kaede Akamatsu
Kirumi Tojo
Gonta Gokuhara
Kokichi Ouma (Only for his assisted suicide, his plan that killed Miu & Gonta was not)
Kaito Momota
K1-B0
Just because someone's killing isn't justifiable, doesn't mean that they are awful or evil or a bad character. While that may be the case sometimes, justifiable just means that the killing was done for a good reason. E.G. Mondo did not kill Chihiro for a good reason, yet we understand why we did so and empathize with him because he is not a bad person at heart.
Also, I suppose for the sake of rounding it all out, let's cover attempted murders (other than Nagito's that I already mentioned).
Sayaka is in a weird place. She wanted to kill Leon with the purpose of saving her band. Technically, one life against four isn't a bad trade. But, there was no guarantee she could even save them in the first place... so I'm going to say this one isn't justified.
Yasuhiro & Genocider attempted to kill Sakura. Yasuhiro did so out of cowardice, there were little to no signs pointing to her trying to kill him. Not justified. Genocider is surprisingly more justified, as she was awoken by a bloody Sakura right in front of her. This is much more justification for thinking she was going to die, and she defended herself. Of course, it goes without saying that Genocider's previous murders are not justified.
Junko attempts to kill Makoto (or kills Kyoko in the alternate ending). This is clearly not justified, doing both of these in the efforts to cover her own plans up. And I'm just going to say it here, none of Junko's, Monokuma's or Tsumugi's kills or attempted kills are justified. Clearly.
Fuyuhiko seemed to have full intent to kill Mahiru. This would not have been justified, but he didn't take any actual action to kill her. So neither way I suppose. However, he was not justified in killing Sato, nor was Sato justified in killing Natsumi. Murder was not the primary option in either scenario.
The Nagito Russian Roulette scene is curious, but if he was hoping for death, it would have been unjustified.
Miu was not justified in attempting to kill Kokichi. She claimed that the world needed her brain, but if she truly believed it to that extent she was delusional. I personally believe she was just saying that to convince her into actually following through with it, she was stammering before Kokichi even insulted her. Either way, not justified.
K1-B0's original plan was to bury the school and everyone in it, including the completely innocent Shuichi, Maki, Himiko and (to his knowledge) Tsumugi. This is counterintuitive to his goal, killing them is not saving them in any capacity.
I think another reason Kokichi had miu killed was because she would’ve killed him otherwise.
In the manga Leon accidentally killed Sayaka
@@dannysmi7162 I suppose so. Kokichi was aware of the plot ahead of time, he didn't even have to go into the simulation if he didn't want to. But if he told the others, they probably wouldn't believe him except for Shuichi possibly. There were ways of avoiding it, but they were risky and Kokichi doesn't trust them enough to do that. I would say understandable, but not justified in that case.
Gonta being Gonta is enough to justify him murdering Miu
True, he knew what he was doing, however, I don't think he knew that miu was planning on killing Kokichi
he did know though. while killing him, kokcihi says that miu was going to kill him first so he shouldn’t feel bad about it.
"At Least I Wasn't Boring Right" was really sad.
Who said that again?
@@asfahyaeesh4976 Kokichi
I just realized that before Kokichi dies he says "At least I was boring, right?" Which is almost the same thing he said before Kaede's execution "Well atleast you weren't boring." Idk why I find that so interesting.
He also said to Kaito "You really...aren't boring"
I think saying that someone isn't boring is his way of saying he likes the person and his question to Kaito might have been his way of asking if, despite everything, he was their friend. That's my interpretation anyway 🥺
Kokichi's death is justified because he consented to it
well. he did not have a choice, but yes
@@mr.bananaman7901 he did he even had it planned out
@@jaydadabber4574 yes i know, he prepared every possibility, but he still was suprised when Maki suddenly appeared and shoot him with a poison arrow
Teruteru litteraly would've gotten everyone killed if Hajime hadn't proved he was the killer, tried to save everyone from Nagito my ass, boy litteraly hid behind Nagito the whole trail so he could escape and see his mom. His motive was his mom, stopping Nagito was just an excuse, the boy litteraly gets tied up so clearly that was never put of the question
It could've been both. He most likely changed it to his mom once he realized he killed the wrong person.
@@Nosretep no because as i said, tey could've tied Nagito up, Teru KNEW the class trial rules, he even went out of hus way to get an alibi. It's obvious that his mom was always his motive, he just told himself he was trying to stop Nagito to make himself feel better
@@kaylaHat Because Nagito is a threat. He knew Nagito would've done it again. And well be was right.
@@Nosretep even if he did kill Nagito, why cover it up if you wanna save everyone? If they don't vote for the right killer they die, killing Nagito and then everyone else at the trail isn't saving them in the slightest
@@kaylaHat Spitting straight facts.
Not to mention Nagito knew they were in NWP and tried to save the Future Foundation member (Chiaki) from Junko AI by graduating
It's too bad he unknowingly sealed Chiaki's fate :(
@@M11037 I mean, to be fair, Nagito's plan would've worked if what he believed to be the true plan behind the Neo World Program was actually right. He believed that the NWP was made to kill the Despairs, the information that he had didn't allow him to see that the killing game was all due to an outside interference. So, he believed that he was doing what the Future Foundation wanted when he set up his death so he believed that Chiaki would go along with it and lead everyone down the wrong path but instead, she knew the answer and whilst she couldn't say it outright, she lea Hajime and everyone else down the path to understanding what had happened.
@@lukasruston8618 yeah true
@@lukasruston8618 Chiaki is one of the characters that could had basically said nothing the whole trial and 100% got away with it. Kaito too because shuichi was willing to get the answer wrong on purpose (end of 5th trial) but kaito stopped him. Kaito would had graduated if he left shuichi go on, even though that would be impossible sense hes kaito he'll die soon and knows the secret of the outside world. Still very sad to think about characters willing to let themselves die.
"And Celestia killing Hifimi SOMEWHAT evens it out"💀
I feel like Kokichi needs a hug for once.
Wolfgang: 28 STAB WOUNDS
It's true that sayaka tried to murder 11037 but after she "locked" the bathroom door 11037 went out of hid way to kill her it's partially justified but not completely
if he hadn’t then sayaka would’ve 180d the murder onto him and accuse him and everyone would probably take her side and she would probably kill again
@@jossiebbl her dominant arm was broken nd so was her spirit she would not have tried again lol
i always assumed he finished the job because he knew that people (especially makoto, who people seemed to be starting to trust at this point) would believe sayaka, who would surely pin the whole thing on leon. nobody would trust leon if they thought he attempted murder, and he was probably still stressed and out of it when he chose to kill her.
i still wouldn't say that it was fully justified, but leon was probably fucked no matter what he did at that point.
@@Illhavesnakes i think you forget to take into account Sayaka's own morality , she didnt hate Leon and there was no way that after all of that transpired would she just start blaming him. Her plan failed because she fumbled at the crucial moment, she never had the gall to kill or betray the trust she had established thats my take lol
@@wuhoho4687 except a part of Sayaka's plan was to literally frame Makoto for the (attempted) murder of Leon.
0:04 technically no.
Sayaka was with her arm broken, Leon was just dumb lol
Alot of people are trying to justify Kokichi Manipulating Gonta to kill Miu in V3 Chapter 4 which is stupid because their were many other options available.
He could of asked Gonta to tie her up.
He could have not told everyone to go along with Mius plan (He confirms he lured them during his confession in the trial).
He could have just not asked Monokuma to put a secret in the simulator as thats what convinced anyone to even check out the virtual world.
He could of logged out.
Miu's plan relied on Kokichi in the virtual world as that was where she had "Total Control" Miu did not want to kill him outsude the simulator.
Because of all these other options thst were available and relatively easy to think of especially for Someone like Kokichi this murder can't be justified even if it was for a higher end goal.
How did i read that as "how muscular is every danganropa character"💀
Celestia murdering Hifumi is justified because she wanted a castle with servants
Korekiyo being the culprit behind both Angie and Tenko's murder always annoys me, mainly because of the amounts of missed and wasted opportunities there were in this one chapter alone. Mainly the First Come First Serve rule that was added.
The real tragedy about this that I wouldn't mind the idea of Korekiyo murdering Tenko, if they changed it to having Tenko being Angie's murderer. That way, they could've used the First Come First Serve rule, and use the Necronomicon to temporarily bring Tenko back from the dead, only to execute her minutes later.
THATS WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT! It would be so cool to have a serial killer and a murderer still alive among the group. That would make for so many interesting things but no. That was just such a missed opportunity.
@@georges227 Toko/genocide Jill did you talk about me
@@georges227 I mean, there was Genocider Syo in the original Danganronpa game. But that's not the reason why I was annoyed about Korekiyo being the one who killed both Angie and Tenko, I'm annoyed because on how it ruined a lot of the character dynamic between Tenko and Angie and their relationship with Himiko.
What I mean is the amount of build-up during the events of Chapters 1, 2 and 3 and how it kinda sorta abruptly it ends. I say kinda sorta ends because it does make Himiko undergo a significant change between how she was before the events of Chapter 3 and how she changed in Chapter 4 and onward. The problem is the dynamic between Tenko and Angie.
During the course of V3's story, both Angie and Tenko wanted to befriend Himiko, but both had different approaches. Tenko was shown to be loving, caring and loyal towards Himiko, even fully admitting that she was in love with Himiko. Angie on the other hand, was more of a sweet talker, using her charm, and love for Atua to persuade Himiko to join her. Himiko, being lazy minded, was easily persuaded by Angie, much to Tenko's dismay. Tenko did everything she could to protect Himiko from Angie, but Himiko took Tenko's approach and warnings for granted. But then, Trial 2 happens. Himiko is seen as the primary suspect when it came to Ryoma's murder. Tenko did everything she could to protect Himiko from being seen as the culprit, so much so that many of the other students were moved by her loyalty and love, mainly Shuichi. Angie, on the other hand immediately tossed Himiko under the bus by pointing to her as the culprit behind Ryoma's murder. Despite this however, Himiko still remained loyal to Angie and her God Atua.
Chapter 3 then happens, and Angie is taking things too far. She created a student council, which let's be honest was a cult in disguise, and managed to convinced half of the students to join her cult, which includes Himiko, Tsumugi, K1-B0, Gonta and, surprisingly, Tenko of all people. This however, turned out to be a rogue, as Tenko only joined to protect Himiko from Angie's manipulative ways. And when the Necronomicon was added to the mix, of which Angie was planning on using the Necronomicon to bring Rantaro back from the dead, Tenko began to grow more and more desperate to save Himiko. She ended asking the help from Shuichi and Maki to convince Angie to stop what she was doing, and most likely convince her to stop brainwashing Himiko. The plan failed and Angie continued with the satanic ritual.
Now, with everything I said and all the build up that was transpiring during those 3 chapters, where was there any indication that Korekiyo was planning on commiting a murder in order to please the spirit of his dead sister? If anything, it felt like that Tenko was originally gonna be the one to murder Angie, but, (and keep in mind this based on an assumption,) the developers must've realized that it would be too obvious, so they tacked on this part that comes out of nowhere, killed both Tenko and Angie, mostly because all 3rd trials in a Danganronpa game has to be a double murder, and the culprit is supposed to be a psychopath, and we're supposed to be okay about it. Well, guess what? It's not! And as a result, this one trial is often classified as one of the worst trials in the Danganronpa franchise, with the only one, arguably, being worst, is the 3rd trial in Danganronpa 2.
And the worst part is that is wasn't that difficult to add all the events that happened in Chapter 3 and still have a similar result, with the only major difference is that Tenko would've been the Blackened, and Korekiyo would still be alive. Hell, I came up with the idea to how to fix this trial in a few minutes without much effort. No joke.
@@OmnicidalClown1992 You just wrote a essay.
there was a narrative purpose to that though. The whole trial Kokichi and Korekiyo push this idea that Tenko's death never mattered, but through the fact that he was the first killer as well and Tenko's death brought light to evidence around that, thus making Tenko's death matter and bringing justice to the dude, all for the sake of Himiko's arc. I'd say that's more compelling than the vague potential of a surviving killer.
Yes I believe every single murder is justified thank you for showing the world.
Mikan!!!!! THANK YOUUUU why do I have to keep saying thissss
Unpopular Opinion:
Honestly, my guy Teruteru, deserved better.
(pls dont attack me)
Teruteru
Hiyoko
Hifumi
Ryoma
Kiyotaka
And ect.
I still can't get over the fact that Mukuro bloody stab 2 metal pins into Chisa's brain and.... Stirred it around 😰
"I hate you Mikan for Killing Ibuki"
Friend: Well you see it was the remembering disease and all that~
"Oh I'm sorry Mikan I won't hate you, I'll blame someone else for that _stares at monokuma and junko_ "
How did you sum up the entire fandom in 3 sentences
Nagito will always be my favorite case. Figuring out he literally did that to himself is insane.
Celeste makes an argument that Leon could have stopped after Maizono went into the bathroom and he wouldn't be guilty, but Maizono could have easily lied and said Leon attacked her. With her lying to Makoto and being an idol, she could easily manipulate the others into believing her. After all, she is the one with the broken wrist. The argument of the missing knife probably wouldn't even be brought up if Maizono placed it back the next day.
The only one that I think we can all agree was 100% not her fault not even the slightest was Mikan due to her being sick because of junko
Any maybe TeruTeru but that’s it
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Leon. If he didn't kill sayaka she would kill, blame makoto, and if he left her injured nobody would trust leon and he would probably die, and danganronpa characters are danganronpa characters so if sayaka gets injured by Leon, everyone will have be side. She kills someone, leons blamed and nobody thinks it's her. 2. Sure, teruteru had good intentions, but byakuya literally stopped nagito if teruteru stopped his plan or in general didn't do it nobody would had died so it is his fault for byakua dying. Chiaki, killed by luck, not her fault. Nothing else i have to say. I should add that everyone got the despair disease near the end of the 3rd animation they were all despairs but I'm assuming you missed the final trial in dr2 or didn't watch dr3, or forgot, there you go. V3. Kaede tried to end the killing game, but she didn't even kill so she got falsely executed (final trial in drv3 btw) Gonta was manipulated, basically brainwashed, so close to not being his fault. Kaito is kaito, and he would had maki be the blackened if he didn't "kill" kokichi. Also kokichi saved his life.
@@how2makeayoutube692 yeah but i mean absolutely not there fault
All the people you list like kaito and gonta may have been doing the right thing but they both still had the free will to say yes or no
Mikan didn’t she was actually brainwashed and reverted into her ultmaite despair form but I do agree with you on the chiaki one and I guess I may have forgotten her
Edit: also I was talking about something that everyone can agree on not everyone agrees on the people you mentioned but I’ve seen in my personal experience that most people agree mikan Wasn’t at fault
Danganronpa content at last yay
FINALLY SOMEWONE TALKED ABOUT KOREKIYO IN THE RIGHT WAY!!!
Ifkr ?
Have to disagree on Korekiyo, I don’t personally care what trauma or whatever you went through, murder is murder.
Well it’s pretty obvious to see that his sister is 100% manipulative (which is also how she assaulted him at such a young age AKA grooming) you can see that in the trial when her ghost I guess possess him and tells him over and over again to apologize, if I remember correctly I think she also says so stuff like “why would you say such things?” and stuff like that, basically gaslighting him
Chirhiro did nothing ☹
Interesting reasoning with some of these. Nice idea for a video.
I just feel like there's an issue with the concept. You say that this video is about justifying all murders, but you aren't justifying them, you are excusing or in some cases explaining them.
You can't justify murder, because saying that someone is justified in killing someone is saying they did nothing wrong, which just isn't true objectively.
In actuality what you're doing is excusing the murder by giving us reasons behind why each killer did what they did. Excuses exist not to justify what someone did but explain why they did it, those reasons are in some cases understandable and might make people sympathise with them, but that's all it is an excuse or a reason why they did it.
In the end it justifies nothing, because killing someone is not justifyable.
Very sad no one trusted Kokichi’s last words :’)
I mean..Kiibo did said that maybe what Kokichi said was ture-
I don't blame them
PAUSE!! 3:35 Kaede was actually innocent.
Leave it up to danganronpa fans to justify selfish murders
My legs hurt
i like potatoes
@@mr.bananaman7901 me too
2:44 correction, the remebering disease, she remembered she was a reminent of despair, or if you rather me say this, part of the ultimate despair
11037 justification actually is out the window. After Sayaka hid herself in the bathroom, 11037 had to leave to get his toolkit in order to open the door. His act of purposefully coming back to kill her removes all semblance of justification in his actions. He didn't have to go back to kill her. he willingly chose to. He is truly guilty.
Yeah but they were about to start the group meetings the morning after and if Sayaka told on Leon and tried to make it so that he attacked her then he probably would’ve been locked up like Nagito or something
@@somebody8796 Leon would say the same thing though. It would become a He said She said.
Doesn't change my point
Yea
Something similar could also be said if Sayaka succeeded. None of the two are justified in their own specific situations
Sayaka plan was doomed from start.Leon did impliment it but like shown failed
To be fair, the games do make you feel like the student bade the mistake of becoming a murderer rather than being seriously malicious.
However the murders would probably feel like distractions to the surviving students in their attempts to escape. And not to mention how does a killer live with themselves afterwards being technically responsible for the deaths of the rest of their classmates. While I can understand the desperation to survive and that I’m just as likely to succumb to it as everyone else, i C also feel that there is no point in surviving if you feel so horrible and broken afterwards. I mean, we aren’t just creatures who scavenge for food, we also keep providing meaning to so many things. Living has to be more than just staying alive.
Tbh half of these are more explanations than justifications, especially Mondo's. It's not reasonable to kill someone out of jealousy.
Wasn't it implied in the game that Mondo blacked out as he flew into a rage?
@@codenamejinza I think it was, still doesn't justify it for obvious reasons.
@@kiwikarp9509 True. Still, he accepted his fate without fanfare once Makoto called him out and even tried to honor Chihiro's wishes, earlier, by keeping his gender secret.
I can't help but wonder if things would've been different had the stress of the Killing Game not been hanging over their heads. If Chihiro confessing his secret to Mondo would've sparked the same reaction, or a much nicer one 🥺
@@codenamejinza I think there's a misunderstanding here. I'm not saying that Mondo is a bad person, I'm saying that his murder wasn't justifiable. There are very few situations where murder is reasonable, and being jealous definitely isn't one of them.
However, that doesn't inherently make Mondo evil or bad. Honestly, I think the fact he was a good person at heart adds to the tragedy of Ch. 2's trial, and he's definitely more justified than a lot of the other murderers in this franchise. I'm just saying that this is still murder we're talking about. That shouldn't be ignored because or downplayed because a good person commited it.
TL;DR, Mondo is a good person, but that makes his murder understandable, not justified.
@@kiwikarp9509 Oh no, I agree 100%.
3:27...
*Der Florwaltzer plays bass boosted*
Finally someone who does not jut say "kOkIcHi MaNiPuLaTeD gOnTa" and call it a day.
The Danganronpa fandom lives another day... And it's glorious
somehow.
Critics score literally does not matter with a movie like this. Any movie made for the fans you can just ignore the critic score
At least my favorite character kills outside the killing game lol
Let me guess Sho or Maki ?
for miu and kokichis involvement, it should be said kokichi did the most research to end the killing game (creating a villain persona, finding out about rantaros lab) and so he came to the conclusion to sacrifice gonta over himself. this is a decision he thought about a lot as evident by past dialogue and the idea of him carrying out the murder himself was definitely considered. also kokichi couldnt just snitch on miu because no one wouldve believed him, it was a necessary evil and one that took him to insanity
and many people ignore that and just think kokichi did it for fun. truly unfortunate
i mean, that's cap because Gonta would've believed him and he knows it, that's why he chose Gonta to manipulate to begin with.
A better argument is that he needed Miu to be silent about the fact that she built him all those inventions so he could pretend to be the mastermind and her planning to kill him showed she couldn't be trusted to do that.
@@galarstar052 kokichi gave gonta a choice that was his 'cope'. in his mind, what he was doing was just because he felt he convinced gonta to commit the crime, he asks gonta rather than makes him. so, when gonta actually forgives him, that illusion is broken for him and he realizes he actually essentially manipulated him (weather he did or not is a whole nother matter), and thats when he breaks down and we see beyond his vilian persona momentarily
@@tayekoo i don't understand what you're trying to say.
@@tayekoo Three murders already have hapenned and they wouldn't belive that someone could die just because he's annoying. Also, no one, not even Kokichi thought that go to a virtual world at leave your real body defenseless when a room full of poisons just opened was a bad idea. Miu should have won right there!
Leon absolutely is not justified just as Celest said, he left the room and proceeded to grab his tool set to break down the door to go in. He totally deserves that.
love how kaede’s murder was the easiest to justify
ah
i still dont know why kokichi looks like a creepypasta when hes going insane
He has probably practiced making intimidating faces a lot, because he wants to feel he has control but is also a short and small guy.
I remember when promotional art of the students was released and many people thought he's a cute little guy when they knew nothing else about him.
@@vilmublues752 He still technically IS a cute little guy. He just had a habit of pretending to be Jeff the Killer when trying to sell his 'I'm the Evil Mastermind' schtick. I never bought it, though.
@@codenamejinza By cute little guy, I meant that a lot of fans assumed he would be the more innocent kind.
@@vilmublues752 In a way, one could argue he was/is. He never wanted to kill anyone, but the Killing Game has a bad habit of bringing that trait out in people, even those crusading to stop it.
@@codenamejinza I know, I know. I'm just talking about his general behavior. Even without the killing game, he still likes to prank and troll people and generally act pretty rude. He isn't all sweet like Chihiro, like some fans assumed from his design.
I was watching this and right when kokichi said : at least I wasnt boring a single rain drop fell on his eye-
Wait so mukuro who was also sexually abused ( and was abused ten times worse than kiyo ) by her sister deserved her death because she killed people?
Yet korekiyo did the same thing and had a dumbed down version of her trauma yet didn’t deserve it? HUH?
"hey nagito, all your classmates said junko is cool"
*"I SEE YOU'VE CHOSEN DEATH"*
1:14 would it have worked??
"At least I.. Wasn't boring, right?" hits me right into my heart 💔
I genuinely feel bad for Leon. But. Sayaka WASN’T a snake. She wanted him to get help and run away after she realized she couldn’t win. So I suppose she kind of was, yet kind of wasn’t. But Leon had great potential to be a character
every murder in dangitgrandpa is justified, because it brought hope in the end. and that's all that matters.
Nagito moment
Aw hell nah
teruteru is stupid for trying to kill nagiti ngl
Well... Leo went back to his room to get the screwdriver to open the bathroom door and THEN kill Sayaka
I wouldnt call any of the killings "justified" but there was definitely a reason behind all of them. Understandable reason =/= justification. None of the murders or executions are justified in my eyes, it's just senseless death for the sake of despair
Ost name?
Nah, Teruteru was gonna kill someone before Nagito even said anything. Nagito caught him acting odd, and was hoping to be the victim.
I really feel like people try to justify Leon's killing too much with that clip from the anime. It became not self defense once she locked herself in the bathroom. When he left, went to his room and got the kit, came back and busted down the door, and then stabbed her, that is not self defense. He was in a messed up predicament that was hard to even begin to deal with but he did not murder Sayaka in self defense but for self preservation, if we are gonna use the excuse of him not being believed.
Yeah true but if he let Sayaka go. She would probably tell everyone Leon tried to murder her. Leon would say the same but everyone would probably believe Sayaka over Leon since Sayaka had a broke wrist Leon would be avoided by all his classmates and probably locked up out of everyone’s fear he would try to murder someone again. It would not end so well for my boi either way. If I was in Leon’s situation I would not know what to do. I would probably kill Sayaka too in fear of what she’d tell everyone
@@manofculture5225 Leon would have been treated in the same way Makoto did after he got framed for Sayaka murder but Sayaka plan was defective from beginning & that's why kyoko was able to figure it out pretty sure it's not long before Sayaka lie would be caught
2:58 is intresting because both Peko and Fuyu had very different reasons for what they did, Fuyu tried to murder Mahiru out of this disgusting blood lust because he blamed her for his sisters death hence why he isn't remorseful at all until after Peko's death, and Peko who genuinely did like Mahiru, used her life to save Fuyu
suprised you justified kore. I love him but his actions are not excusable.
Actually, Sakura was the traitor. She was ordered to kill Asahina and like she was her friend, she prefered comited a suicide. I think it was said official.
And for Gundham, is not offiacial but some people say like on the funhouse was no food, he couldnt feed his hamsters, so like an Ultimate breeder, he decided to save his animals.
And wait but when was korekiyo sexualy abused?
When his sister was in the hospital and since to her words she was missing out on teen stuff like having friends and *love* and with her higher authority as an older sister she basically groomed him into doing…well…disgusting things probably against his consent because he was a little kid at the time
@@Aimi_Kaneko And on what part in Game that happens? Lol?
I am so surprised, I always hated Korekiyo but now I am a little sad because he was traumatized... Still, doesn't excuse all those girl deaths, because there were a lot if he was close to 100
@@Aimi_KanekoThere’s nothing ingame that suggests she groomed Kiyo, only going against him during his execution suggests she cared little for him, which can’t really prove anything since _everything_ usually works in Monokuma’s favor.
@@thebrightdiamondtp7871 Wait really? I don’t remember much of the case but that’s how I heard the situation from other people. Or maybe I accidentally made that up since if there’s one thing that I remember from the case, is that they did NOT flesh out his story and trauma well enough, at least to me it felt rushed and unfinished
No sayaka locked herself in the bathroom and leon came back to finsh the job
1:29 pls give me link where can I watch this anime cause I looked everywhere and I still couldn't find where to watch
It's called ' Danganronpa: The Animation ' . And I've found some playlists of it here on youtube.
I’m sorry but how the fukk was Chihiro’s murder justified?? Mondo murdered him in a blind rage. It wasn’t even for the game, it was just mindless rage because he felt insecure.
That's the problem. Blind rage means you don't realize it's happening until *after* you calm down. You're literally BLIND to what is happening.
Still a dumb reason for murder, though.
Not gonna lie, most of these reasons don't justify what they did. Still great video though
Angie’s murder was justified because she’s the worst character in the entire series.
teruteru is the worst in the series
@@alsmith2292 I don’t like him that much either.
@@alsmith2292 no
@@OhWuh yes, he literally tried to drug Hajime in his free time events and has no good qualities, and he's kinda a perv
@@alsmith2292 no
I have mixed feelings about the first one. I don't think that murder was ENTIRELY justified.
Yeah, in the game it's specifically stated that Leon could have walked away after Sayaka locked herself in, but he chose to break in and kill her.
Tenko was probably the only character in the series I was genuinely glad had died.
How tusumugi killing rantaro is justified: -E R R O R-
She can’t be justified for making guacamole
This shit is sickening 😡
Honestly I hate Leon hate his design hate everything about him but he should not have been punished it was self-defense I feel so bad for him but I still hate him
And Celeste was not justified
To be honest, most of these are justifiable. With Celeste and Tsumugi, yeah, those can't be justified. But everyone else kinda had a reason, especially Nagito and Kokichi since they tried to end the killing game. People can talk about how popular Nagito and Kokichi are and Byakuya is better, but in my opinion, because Nagito and Kokichi actually sacrificed themselves to end their games, and Byakuya didn't, that makes the other two much better antagonists/anti-heros. But that's my opinion
Having a reason doesnt mean its justified
@@decayedphoenix8865 Dude, that's obvious, but if you *could* justify, which you should never do, then yeah, some of these are justified
Kokichi be making Some cursed Faces
Sayaka was pretty badly injured, the chances of her even being able to go after someone else was slim, Leon could have definitely waited until morning to expose her plot.
Mondos wasnt really justified
Nagito looks like he wanted to kill everyone and only save Chiaki, but I also think he did it to raise hope and let everyone know what they are and fight with it, at the same time I also see it as he wanted to prevent something from going wrong in the trial and end up becoming more despair, Nagito knew about Izuru... but at the same time he trusted that they could fix that situation
not for nothing at the end of the story, he told Hajime/Izuru, he knew he could trust you, he knew you would reach the lowest stratum...
He one way or another he wanted to save them, but as I've always said, their ways are wrong... he knew they would notice everything
there be no way to justify celeste dying and u know it
She murdered someone you sussy baka, ofc her death is justified
Smh my head
11037 will never be justified as that long sailed when he ran to get his toolkit to get into the bathroom to kill Sayaka. Even if she intended to kill, running and telling everyone about her was the best solution. Not going back for a rather violent round 2.
Mondo.....just no. Jealous rage is no reason to kill.
Hifumi...not really. He's an idiot and listened to someone who's good at deception that just happened to be a girl, just like alter ego appeared to look like 😢 everything he did was of one selfish mind.
Celeste couldn't have been more wrong with her accomplice choice or murder attempt, given Hifumi not being smart enough, they could've gotten away with it.....kinda. It's also a case of "eye for an eye leaves the world blind" type of deal here. It couldn't have evened it out because a murderer murdered the accomplice that murdered for the murderer that.....anyway...
Sakura 😭
Mukuro really only died because of Junko, and that girl is justified in nothing lol
Teruteru was actually justified. Catching Nagito appearing to attempt a murder was mere chance. But going out his way to attempt to murder the soon-to-be murderer before he did so, respect. Nagito would play "blackened roulette" with the class later on
Peko basically did her job as Fuyuhiko's right hand. She still murdered. But I didn't like Mahiru.
Mikan was under the despair disease. It's like "everything was just a blur", still murderer.
Nagito....was random. The case was quite solvable, take away the RNG that was the grenades, and I think that's what has me still scratching my head at it. I get the reason but....
Kaede meant to kill who she thought was the mastermind, unfortunately she hit the wrong target.
Kirumi....still wrong. To throw in my own cognitive dissonance style mental gymnastics, I can consider it a mercy killing considering Ryoma actually stayed put and asked her to do the deed. However, being one of the expendable prime ministers doesn't exclude her from the rules.
Korekiyo....only would've been justified if he did all of that to himself.
Gonta...is just feral Hifumi so I felt bad for the poor guy. Only thing that was going to save him was the fact that he "forgot" what happened upon leaving the game.
Kokichi, he.....ok, I have nothing much for him. Talking with at least 2 other people away from the same class would've helped this at least.
Sayaka wouldn't kill anyone else. Her wrist would be broken, no one would believe her looking at all the evidence, and if she found out about the executions, she would never have thought of another murder.
And Leon didn't do it in defense. He killed her because he noticed an easy target.
Yes Sayaka would kill someone lol 💀
@@worthyedge9307 Do you even know Sayaka's character? Because I can see you don't.
@@Jasminepq I mean, we know her character enough to try and kill Leon.
And same goes for Sayaka.She picked Leon and Makoto as her potential victim because guys Like Byakuya,celestia& Kyoko too smart,Mondo,Sakura,Kyotaka too strong for her,Hifumi is only interested in 2d.Junko (Mukoro)dead,toko too crazy,That leave only Makoto,yasuhiro and Leon as possible to manipulate
@@Jasminepq It was literally shown and explained as not being one sided. She was going to commit premeditated murder. She even made sure it would've been in Makoto's room in order to pin the blame on him. Of course this came through her desperation and it didn't actually end up happening, but that is the truth of what was going on. And i doubt that she would just admit to it in the trial.
And this isn't even mention how there was a possibility the message left behind in her death possibly could have been left not out of care for makoto, but an emotional reaction leading to spite for leon in that moment (or maybe a mix of both)
Were not gonna talked about the real chiaki who was first executed by junko because she could be their grap of their hopes. But yeah it was justified at the end of anime by believing themselves to change the future a better day.
Based opinion.
None of these are “justified” except for Chiaki’s, and even then that's literally because she had no idea what was going on.
Leon had every chance to run away and tell everyone what happened but he still went out of his way to kill her. Mondo may have had a trauma response but that doesn't excuse killing Chihiro. Celeste is straight up not justified lol. Sakura’s wasn't a murder so I won't count this. Even though Mukuro was a war criminal I don't think she deserved to die with spears piercing her body.
Teruteru could've just kept distracting Nagito or something instead of just trying to kill him. Peko killing Mahiru is not excusable and both her and Fuyuhiko premeditated this so no they weren't just “going to chat”. Mikan still took lives and don't forget she was the only character who fell into despair without that stupid video. Gundham’s is understandable however he still tried to cover it up.
Kaede still tried to take a life, it's understandable but not justified. Ryoma never really “consented” to dying he just didn't say anything. For all Kirumi knows that video could be fake with how outlandish it is. I know Korekiyo was abused but it still doesn't justify killing two people. Gonta had no reason to trust Kokichi with his claims, so his murder is not justified. Kaito is a confusing one because it was more of Kokichi taking his own life so I won't count it here.
Well technically as Celeste points out Sayaka locked (door was not locked it was jammed but same difference) herself in the bathroom and Leon went out of his way to get his tool kit and break open the door to kill her. That seems like a little more than self defense to me.
Yes
Leon's murder isn't justified, he went out if his way to kill sayaka. Sayaka couldn't overpower leon, because she couldn't kill leon in the end cuz of the guilt she would feel. Sayaka wouldn't attempt a murder the next day and instead he could of have warned everyone about it anyway.
WHY IS EVERYONE SAYING 11037 HIS NAME IS LEON
his name is leon that's why we call him 11037
memes
0:34 sorry but his hair 💀
I suppose that my Mikan hatred is biased bc both ibuki and hiyoko are my favorite characters and I didn’t wanna see them go
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