Facts man has made sooo much not even of his own music even other artists Tyler is a prime example of the Pharrell touch. Without Pharrell I don’t think Tyler would have experimented much on his newer projects
with NAV the explanation that I’ve heard other artists talk about him being underrated is that yes he sounds generic now, but he is the one who did it first and everyone started to copy it so now everyone does what made him special and you don’t even think about it because now you’re like oh he just sounds like everybody else but no everybody else sounds like him
Rap is dying because people who have decent rap skill hop on generic beats and say boring generic rapper stuff. While people who can’t rap AT ALL hop on these crazy larger than life beats that they are not skilled enough to handle then they pretty much just adlib over it so the beat carries. The surfers are chilling on the beach while there kids are drowning in the waves. It’s simple
The reception of music is subject to the personal preference of the listener and their perception of who the artist is. It’s all subjective and down to personal taste. I think that’s one of the things that is so great about music.
Honestly I compare music to like a meal. Not every meal u have is gonna blow ur mind like “wow most delicious thing ever”, sometimes, a sandwich is just a sandwich, meant to be consumed, n that’s that. That’s what Nav is to me, a turkey sandwich. I like turkey sandwiches, but I never eat them expecting something spectacular.
there’s new rappers with new sounds it’s just u can’t have a new sound and instantly blow up, u need to follow the trends to blow up initially then when ur atleast semi established u can do ur own thing like look at yeat making similar music to carti after WLR he then blew up and tweaked his sounds a little to be different. If u make a new sound when ur not big enough people will hear it and turn it off cus it’s not what they wanna hear cus people are sheep and if it’s not popular they don’t wanna be seen as weird, the only way they’ll blow up is if a big rapper or label finds them and puts them on, but in most scenarios if a big rapper hears a new sound they think will bang they’ll just copy it and do it themselves
@@knownunknown8450it's not necessarily 'fundign trends'; it's more finding a balance between making your music palatable to the masses, and adding your own twist to your work. then, like OP said, once you start gaining traction, you have more leniency to experiment more. ofc, if you're set on not wanting to be a rapper, I can't change your mind; do what you feel is right. bless 🙏
@@knownunknown8450 sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to get your platform it’s a recipe a lot of artists have followed throughout the years it’s rare you get a guy trailblazing that gets all the recognition for being different
@@knownunknown8450 from one musician to another I get it Man I loved getting stoned and freestyling with the homies on a beat. I wanted to get into beat making but sadly haven’t gotten around to it been wanting to buy a keyboard and everything. Music is more of a hobby to me now but I wish you luck man it’s hard out there but perseverance and adapting will get you far in this business.
I think my least favorite new wave of generic rapper is the offbeat subpar vampire emo lean drinking rappers. They literally make me angry. I blame Carti for starting that.
I’m actually a fan of Jack, a lot of his older music you can tell he had a lot more of a hunger and drive but now that he’s mainstream, his music has gotten to this complacent and cookie cutter place and it’s sad cuz he used to rap his ass off about a lot of real and personal shit.
7:36 Yes!!! I listened to his album the day it dropped I thought it was a breath of fresh air compared to the over saturation of gang shit, murder, and depression in most rap today. After Mood, feature w DaBaby (pre cancellation) I thought that album was go hit the charts like a mf. Plus he had this🔥track "Prada" w Lil Tecca that was completely slept on🤷♂
The fact that The Weeknd didn't utilize 88GLAM and Black Atlass is a mystery we need Sherlock Holmes and Batman to unravel. NAV and Cash definitely got something on Abel.
Destroy lonely for me mane I just can’t listen to dude, he’s just so generically boring, the only reason why he’s popular is 1. The label 2. His fashion
I read a study a few years ago that 80-90% of people past the age of 21 stop trying to find new music and tend to just listen to what they did in high school. Now think that 90% of the people you know mainly listen to what they heard in high school. Does it surprise you that popular rap has kind of become generic now? Also don’t hate on Mac Miller and lump him in with Jack Harlow, that’s disrespectful to Mac he was light years beyond Harlow.
Agreed on Jack Harlow. I listened to Come Home The Kids Miss You and there is just... absolutely nothing worth hearing. Boring beats, generic copy-and-paste bars, boring delivery. It lacks any sense of personality. It's the type of album that would only sound good if you were someone who had never listened to any other hip hop and thus had nothing to compare it to.
@@ARTPUNK1 it is don’t be arrogant rap been down this road before in the late 2000s and came back stronger than ever listen to grisdela, schoolboy w instead of the mainstream
@@dwaynejpeterkin bruhh don't even try and compare earlier 2000s rap and today rap, its way more bullshit rap today than it was early 2000s. The people that you name are before today's rap a era that was actually all about spitting barz which i grew up on, not this mumble crap everybody hype up and sad thing is that we are getting more weirdos by the day..
@@ARTPUNK1 read my comment again i said late 2000s not early 2000s so your saying gucci mane, rick ross, lil wayne, nicki minaj, drake were spitting bars they are the reasons why we have more weirdos in rap dont give me that lil wayne can rap crap as when he was the top rapper alot of people hated him with his garbage songs
@@dwaynejpeterkin don't put words in my mouth i didn't say no bullshit like that. I agree mfs do be cappin but I'm saying that we need more ppl that can actually rap with meaning. I rather listen to artist i was listening to growing than today', because they don't be talking bout nothing.
I get what you’re saying in this video I have a few of these artist songs and I don’t go into their music thinking I’ll get some grandiose feeling from them. I’m just listening for the production and some noise vibe but I’m not getting their albums lol. I’m only buying albums from artists that actually make me have a full experience from them not just noise.
I love 24kgoldn. I get excited when he drops and eagerly await for him to send the world new songs. I do agree with you on a couple things you stated about his music though.
You know it's a banger when the camera is on
Nah real asf
All his camera vids are bangers fr
@@roseTKz real
I hate when people say music is dying when the internet literally has thousands of songs they’d love they’re just too lazy to look
i listen to women. there are more options than ever before. people are lazy whiners.
People need to listen to underground scenes more like Bay Area or milkwuake
Everytime one of yall recommend something its samey "underground" trash. Everyone sounds like one variation of the underground sound.
@@porkerpete7722 No one sounds gully like Hollowman
@@porkerpete7722Gao The arsonist, Justin Gbada, Perry maysun, Yu$e, etc
"You're a Brown Boy, Not a Black Boy" - UVXCX 2023
literally nothing but facts spoken ☠️
+1
Nf and nav are Fortnite trailer music ☠️
u never listened to Nav clearly
@@lb2kxxnav is ass point blank
Nav been out before Fortnite
@@lb2kxx Nav mid ash he sound mad robotic literally make an ai nav song and no one would know the difference 💀💀💀
His songs 'Myself' and 'Up' still hit to this day. But everything else is forgettable robotic trash.
Ppl would show me sum1 and be like "dude invented a new genre" and it's exactly the same as the last 10 both sonically and visually. I don't get it.
This man is really acting as if we dont need a follow up to his smash hit September 😭😭
This the most real comment rn
6:43 I'm glad you showed his reaction, this guy had me rolling when I saw his video with how he was laughing 😂
Gotta respect NAV's consistency for being the whackest artist on the planet for years
Exactly why hes the goat💪🐐🔥
That first album was super hard the rest are so trash
Nav got a lot of great songs stop playing
Nav’s music is hard. People just love to hate and scapegoat him
@@TheNadroj10ur music taste just sucks hes straight trash
My producer just put me on to Buddha brand last week! Crazy, cool to see others giving love, the sample chops and flow patterns hold up really well.
10:50 bro started daydreaming 😭😭💀💀
You’ll deffo double your subs next year bro🤟🏾🖤
Just found your channel and I love what you're saying and doing! Keep up the great work:-) Subscribed!
Summed up my thoughts exactly
I fully agree with you on Nav, I only listened to one album from Nav, it put me to sleep and never listened to another album from him again.
Pharrel is one of the best producers of all time, idc
Probably the best no lie
yuno better
Facts man has made sooo much not even of his own music even other artists Tyler is a prime example of the Pharrell touch. Without Pharrell I don’t think Tyler would have experimented much on his newer projects
with NAV the explanation that I’ve heard other artists talk about him being underrated is that yes he sounds generic now, but he is the one who did it first and everyone started to copy it so now everyone does what made him special and you don’t even think about it because now you’re like oh he just sounds like everybody else but no everybody else sounds like him
Rap is dying because people who have decent rap skill hop on generic beats and say boring generic rapper stuff. While people who can’t rap AT ALL hop on these crazy larger than life beats that they are not skilled enough to handle then they pretty much just adlib over it so the beat carries. The surfers are chilling on the beach while there kids are drowning in the waves. It’s simple
not only are ppl rappin on the most generic beats but its just inaudible autotune bs like that shi is so wack
The reception of music is subject to the personal preference of the listener and their perception of who the artist is. It’s all subjective and down to personal taste.
I think that’s one of the things that is so great about music.
Facts
For me, my favorite rapper is D savage. He’s got his own sound and has yet to disappoint me personally
His lack of drive is a clear disappointment to me. I really enjoy his sound but hr could be so much better if he really tried.
@@blankcanvas3554 I hear what you’re saying, but I gotta really good feeling about his next album. Snippets have been insane
Over the past few years trash has been forced on me to the point where I sought it out on youtube, now its my favorite channel.
left dude is boss baby grown up, right dude is that one black guy in highschool musical
looks like mans been workin out, lookin clean
Honestly I compare music to like a meal. Not every meal u have is gonna blow ur mind like “wow most delicious thing ever”, sometimes, a sandwich is just a sandwich, meant to be consumed, n that’s that. That’s what Nav is to me, a turkey sandwich. I like turkey sandwiches, but I never eat them expecting something spectacular.
The nav section made me laugh😂😂
Lmaooo, I love Nav but I don’t know why💀💀💀
You're meant for this G. Keep it up
Fam is hilarious jus subbed
there’s new rappers with new sounds it’s just u can’t have a new sound and instantly blow up, u need to follow the trends to blow up initially then when ur atleast semi established u can do ur own thing like look at yeat making similar music to carti after WLR he then blew up and tweaked his sounds a little to be different. If u make a new sound when ur not big enough people will hear it and turn it off cus it’s not what they wanna hear cus people are sheep and if it’s not popular they don’t wanna be seen as weird, the only way they’ll blow up is if a big rapper or label finds them and puts them on, but in most scenarios if a big rapper hears a new sound they think will bang they’ll just copy it and do it themselves
@@knownunknown8450it's not necessarily 'fundign trends'; it's more finding a balance between making your music palatable to the masses, and adding your own twist to your work. then, like OP said, once you start gaining traction, you have more leniency to experiment more.
ofc, if you're set on not wanting to be a rapper, I can't change your mind; do what you feel is right.
bless 🙏
@@knownunknown8450 sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to get your platform it’s a recipe a lot of artists have followed throughout the years it’s rare you get a guy trailblazing that gets all the recognition for being different
@@knownunknown8450 from one musician to another I get it Man I loved getting stoned and freestyling with the homies on a beat. I wanted to get into beat making but sadly haven’t gotten around to it been wanting to buy a keyboard and everything. Music is more of a hobby to me now but I wish you luck man it’s hard out there but perseverance and adapting will get you far in this business.
@@knownunknown8450 I feel that man same here never stop learning
I feel this to my core
the song playing in the outro is also part of the problem in rap
ay we need another type beat comments vid, them things are gold
NAV slander will not be tolerated in this comment section
Yes it will.
@@UVXCX No it won’t you PIECE OF 💩
Nav goes hard. The hate narrative is lame
@7:45 LMAO funny you say this and he just dropped today 😂😂
That jacket is hard🔥
If an artist isn’t innovative are they really an artist?
Day just got way better i love John bro hes such a goated person man
Rs on the nav part bro just casually saying ngga 😭
felt the COD analogy
I think my least favorite new wave of generic rapper is the offbeat subpar vampire emo lean drinking rappers. They literally make me angry. I blame Carti for starting that.
I’m actually a fan of Jack, a lot of his older music you can tell he had a lot more of a hunger and drive but now that he’s mainstream, his music has gotten to this complacent and cookie cutter place and it’s sad cuz he used to rap his ass off about a lot of real and personal shit.
I’ve always thought that Nav had crazy amounts of blackmail on these rappers and producers because there’s no way his doo doo music is good I’m sorry.
Mainstream rap is dead, underground is bigger than ever
I never looked at Nav the same after seeing him on Bangbus
7:36 Yes!!! I listened to his album the day it dropped I thought it was a breath of fresh air compared to the over saturation of gang shit, murder, and depression in most rap today. After Mood, feature w DaBaby (pre cancellation) I thought that album was go hit the charts like a mf. Plus he had this🔥track "Prada" w Lil Tecca that was completely slept on🤷♂
The algorithm only sends you what you listen to.
this shit has been pissing me off all year, like yeah bro you said "grab" 15 times over a beat, ur not a rapper ur a yapper
"grah" not grab
Flo Milli Take was valid, Never lose me with Yachty is a straight banger 🔥🔥👌👌
all camera vids bangers fr
The fact that The Weeknd didn't utilize 88GLAM and Black Atlass is a mystery we need Sherlock Holmes and Batman to unravel. NAV and Cash definitely got something on Abel.
I know Buddha Brand!! Rip Dev Large!!! They songs is how I learned to flow (I’m a Ken clone 😭😭😭)
Destroy lonely for me mane I just can’t listen to dude, he’s just so generically boring, the only reason why he’s popular is
1. The label
2. His fashion
Much love for using my beat 💯
I read a study a few years ago that 80-90% of people past the age of 21 stop trying to find new music and tend to just listen to what they did in high school. Now think that 90% of the people you know mainly listen to what they heard in high school. Does it surprise you that popular rap has kind of become generic now? Also don’t hate on Mac Miller and lump him in with Jack Harlow, that’s disrespectful to Mac he was light years beyond Harlow.
Here before it blows 🤙🏾
Jack Harlow reminds me of g eazy and I think Jack will be okay as long as he doesn't make the same mistakes as g eazy
Bro hair grew tremendously
new hair goes hard
Hip Hop isn't dying it just aint finna be a money grab no more
I need a Part 2 of this video 😂
I fondled the like button
mainstream is shit rn ngl
Nav Makes Music For Sad Mfs. I Don't Listen To Nav As Much As I Used To When I Was Sad. He Not That Bad Tho I Was With You Until Nav.
Rapping into the void🌬️🕳️
10:17 I SING THIS SONG EVERYDAY PROUDLY AS A MAN
Agreed on Jack Harlow. I listened to Come Home The Kids Miss You and there is just... absolutely nothing worth hearing. Boring beats, generic copy-and-paste bars, boring delivery. It lacks any sense of personality. It's the type of album that would only sound good if you were someone who had never listened to any other hip hop and thus had nothing to compare it to.
Eating din din while watching dis
What u eating gang
Bro look like a well kept Kankan
Another artist in this list is French Montana. Hip hops least essential star
I've seen MAD comments with people thinking you're white LMAO
He doesn't sound white 😂 just cus he rarely speaks in AAVE doesn't mean he sounds white
They only say it’s dying because they are the new old heads hip hop is getting better and in 2024 will have new stars that will be big
HipHop is not getting better tf outta here you obviously a lil kid saying this..
@@ARTPUNK1 it is don’t be arrogant rap been down this road before in the late 2000s and came back stronger than ever listen to grisdela, schoolboy w instead of the mainstream
@@dwaynejpeterkin bruhh don't even try and compare earlier 2000s rap and today rap, its way more bullshit rap today than it was early 2000s. The people that you name are before today's rap a era that was actually all about spitting barz which i grew up on, not this mumble crap everybody hype up and sad thing is that we are getting more weirdos by the day..
@@ARTPUNK1 read my comment again i said late 2000s not early 2000s so your saying gucci mane, rick ross, lil wayne, nicki minaj, drake were spitting bars they are the reasons why we have more weirdos in rap dont give me that lil wayne can rap crap as when he was the top rapper alot of people hated him with his garbage songs
@@dwaynejpeterkin don't put words in my mouth i didn't say no bullshit like that. I agree mfs do be cappin but I'm saying that we need more ppl that can actually rap with meaning. I rather listen to artist i was listening to growing than today', because they don't be talking bout nothing.
i've been put onto buddah brand, thank you
BRO WHAT HAPPENED TO FINAL NOTE I LOVED THAT SONG PLS BRING IT BACK IF YOU CAN IM CRYIN OUT TO U BRU
I can’t even watch videos about this anymore 🎭🎭🎭
Nav my favorite outta who you said i fw him butbthe others are okay
I get what you’re saying in this video I have a few of these artist songs and I don’t go into their music thinking I’ll get some grandiose feeling from them. I’m just listening for the production and some noise vibe but I’m not getting their albums lol. I’m only buying albums from artists that actually make me have a full experience from them not just noise.
I'm here for the Nav slander
Ik u love gatekeepin but where dat hoodie from gang 😂
I love 24kgoldn. I get excited when he drops and eagerly await for him to send the world new songs. I do agree with you on a couple things you stated about his music though.
its like u get cuter and cuter evry time u turn that camera on😂🤩
Nav makes the worst music of all time
who tf listens to NAV??????
people with taste
I was on the side of the road smoking a J while watching people walk to their cars from a football game. Some dude drove by blasting Nav 💀
I feel like nowadays it’s more of a copycat rapper epidemic if we being honest
what’s the outro song?
i love your videos man
Ngl u was right bout everything else but nav😂
Jack Harlow slander is wild tf he do yo y’all?😭😭
BUDDHA BRAND MENTIONED DID NOT EXPECT THAT
Omg IT'S BERLEEEZYYY!!!
I’ve never met An actual nav fan
I'd say the modern day goats are Uzi, Yb, and Drake
I’ve cried to Jack Harlow before
Listen to Ebk jaaybo and the whole bay scene they bring a wave of authenticity
ur hair is fye bruh
Outro?
LOL fire video king
yall complaining about generic rap days after Pink Friday 2 came out...
Hip hop ain't dieing. Its just most of yah prefer crap. The search engine is empty everytime you search.
Her Producer Is Kin To Her Gotta Be 🤣🤣
Finally someone who hates nav as much as me
the stuff about nav is so true
modern goats for me:
Denzel Curry
JID
Joey Bada$$
Westside Boogie
Little simz