Apple II Learns to Print

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  • @TechTangents
    @TechTangents  16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    A surprising number of people aren't getting that the printout was a joke. I explain it more here: th-cam.com/video/STtaVtO5q-k/w-d-xo.html but it was just a cascade of different things. I even said at 34:20 that I wouldn't have added the lower text if I had know how it would be laid out on the page, I was just trying to fill the message box to see what a full sheet would look like.

  • @needfuldoer4531
    @needfuldoer4531 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    I miss old computer box art that's just a watercolor of a bunch of people doing Important Computer Things with their home computers.

  • @omegahelix
    @omegahelix วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    The original Print Shop! What a throwback. I distinctly remember the “Post no bills” icon for signs and the magician shooting lightning. I printed the kaleidoscope patterns with my Imagewriter II. And banners wishing Mom happy birthday. Thought I was so cool.

    • @caseyrevoir
      @caseyrevoir 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      You are cool!

  • @QuintusCunctator
    @QuintusCunctator วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    In a time where there was no Google, no Stack Exchange and (god forbid) no ChatGpt to ask questions to, reading a manual was really the intended way to learn how to operate a PC or a program. And it has two plusses over the alternatives: 1. It gives an overview of a "system" and its capabilities, not only a vertical slice of knowledge 2. It usually conveys the intent, or even the philosophy, of the author. So, while "RTFM" is a crass interjection, it is also a very valuable suggestion. Long live the manuals!

  • @lolodiculous
    @lolodiculous วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    "A computer doesn't feel complete until it can print"
    Well, vintage printers ARE the hardest part to find, from my experience.
    Great video man!

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Congrats on being the first real comment on this video.

    • @lolodiculous
      @lolodiculous วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Toonrick12 thanks, kinda sad how fast bots are taking over...

    • @HamburgerAmy
      @HamburgerAmy วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      me looking like homelander with my visible disgust for home printers.

    • @jakint0sh
      @jakint0sh วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HamburgerAmy Brother printers are actually a joy to work with in my experience, basically anything else is not though.

    • @HamburgerAmy
      @HamburgerAmy วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jakint0sh that's true, don't ruin that by looking or using (residential) brother printer products from the last few years though...they've fallen into the specialty ink rental agreement scams as well

  • @CharlesOttman
    @CharlesOttman วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    10 D$=CHR$(4)
    20 PRINT D$;"PR#1"
    30 PRINT D$;"CATALOG"
    40 PRINT D$;"PR#0"
    50 END

    • @andrewdunbar828
      @andrewdunbar828 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Came across this a month ago. I had no recollection of having learned it back in 1979. I was trying to read random binary files off the drive.
      I think it's something to do with "CATALOG" not being a BASIC command but a DOS 3.3 command?

    • @CharlesOttman
      @CharlesOttman 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@andrewdunbar828 Correct CATALOG isn't a Applesoft command which is why when he listed the program it was showing up as "C AT A LOG" because Applesoft tried to break it up into BASIC. AT and LOG happen to be BASIC words/functions. The control-d, CHR$(4) is the escape/hook character to cause the string that follows it to be dealt with in DOS 3.3. ProDOS follows the same convention.

  • @JD-xt8cj
    @JD-xt8cj วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I remember when I was in middle school, the teacher had me leading the class for a few minutes while she stepped out. I was trying to demonstrate one of her programs using “RUN” and “BRUN”, to no avail… then I tried “INITIALIZE” on it and erased the teachers diskette. Oops!

    • @AdamKlein77
      @AdamKlein77 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That's when you type "home" and say "I don't know what happened! Weirdest thing!"

  • @rivards1
    @rivards1 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    By the way, the SUP R MOD RF modulator came with almost every Apple II/II Plus. Virtually no one had a dedicated monitor, and those Sanyo security monitors really weren't consumer items. No TVs had Composite in. The FCC prevented Apple from including an internal RF Modulator due to interference concerns. So the SUP R MOD was practically a required accessory. Remember that the other two computers from 1977 - the PET and the TRS-80 were B&W, with companion monitors. I think the Atari 800 was the earliest computer with internal RF out - and it required shielding like a tank!

    • @c1ph3rpunk
      @c1ph3rpunk 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I swear my 800 is just a giant faraday cage.

  • @ajslim79
    @ajslim79 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    who needs Dolby Surround, when you can have Shelby Spatial Audio :D

  • @BradinSiouxCity
    @BradinSiouxCity วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The Imagewriter II is a pretty great printer too, especially with a sheet feeder attachment.

  • @jakint0sh
    @jakint0sh วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hoo boy… this is hilarious and a little painful to watch as somebody who knows WAY too much about Apple IIs.
    So basically what you’re doing when you run “PR#1” is running the code in the expansion ROM on the super serial card, which changes the hook that the basic/monitor ROM calls to print a character to point to the super serial card’s code instead of a routine that resides in the monitor ROM that prints to the screen normally. Doing PR#0 resets this hook. This is also how the 80-column cards work, and on an Apple IIe you do PR#3 to enter 80-col mode, and PR#0 to reset back to 40 columns.
    All in all, I don’t blame you for not knowing, and I think it’s cool to see you try to learn how to use the machine authentically.
    I love what you do, keep up the good work!

  • @fredWaxBeans11111
    @fredWaxBeans11111 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    VERY Groovy! Being able to do this in 1977 would feel like Star Trek technology come to life

  • @DerekLippold
    @DerekLippold 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That’s really the best vintage printer I’ve seen. The dot matrix I had when I was a kid was much slower and didn’t load as well. More than once it picked up the paper it had already printed and ran it through again until it jammed. It was hard to keep it in the track properly.

  • @philipstephens5960
    @philipstephens5960 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    To add some extra clarification about DOS commands. Applesoft BASIC does not implement these commands, they are part of DOS 3.3 that is loaded from the floppy disk into RAM. But the character input and output subroutines in ROM provide vectors in RAM that can be overridden, which is what the IN# and PR# commands do (they redirect input and output to the ROM on the card inserted into the specified slot). When you boot from a DOS 3.3 disk, DOS also hooks itself into these vectors, which allows it to have first crack at parsing whatever you type at the Applesoft prompt when a program isn't running. However, during running of an Applesoft program, DOS will only respond to commands being printed via the PRINT statement, and only if you precede the command with a carriage return and CTRL-D character. It won't respond to commands typed when an INPUT statement is executed. This is to ensure that Applesoft programs will run normally, while still providing a way to execute DOS commands, which as I've already said are not part of Applesoft BASIC, hence the reason why typing 20 CATALOG did not work. Applesoft BASIC simply doesn't recognize CATALOG as a valid statement.

  • @BradinSiouxCity
    @BradinSiouxCity วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    ADT Pro always works to write disks from pc to apple II through the serial card in a pinch

    • @jakint0sh
      @jakint0sh วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wait until he figures out that it works with the cassette port too :)

    • @CheshireNoir
      @CheshireNoir วันที่ผ่านมา

      ADTPro was my main reason to get a Super Serial Card.

  • @bmac4011
    @bmac4011 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What you will run into is 2 versions of apple disks. They made a prom add-on for the disk controller that had a switch on it that you could mount to the case, allowing switching between I believe original 13 sectors per track to 16 sectors per track. Otherwise you will run into disks that have the larger format and you can't read them. The drives themselves could be half-stepped and moved outside the normal disk range which certain programs used for protections. You can only copy those disks with a bit copier instead of the normal DOS program copy. You could also clip the side of the disk and flip it over and use both sides after formatting the blank side. You are basically uncovering the write protect tab by clipping the opposite side.
    Interestingly, if you like to code in 6502, you can pull the prom from the card and replace it with your own prom that has utility code on it, getting into the prom with the pr#{slot#} command. I wrote one for a parallel card that had all my favorite utilities on prom - like hex dump, and my own directory command, etc.

  • @tschak909
    @tschak909 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    To send DOS commands, you must print a control-D, which causes COUT to intercept it as a DOS command.
    so:
    20 PRINT CHR$(4);"CATALOG"
    will do what you want.

  • @ellipticalsoul
    @ellipticalsoul 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The Print Shop goes way harder than you would expect

  • @shawnfromportland
    @shawnfromportland 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    2:00 3 straight minutes about how much you enjoy reading 80s tech manuals. i simply can't get this content anywhere else 🔥

  • @Mrshoujo
    @Mrshoujo วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At the DeVry I went to in the mid 1980s, students shared around a cracked copy of Print Shop which I ended up copying & sharing with a grade school class who later sent me a thank you card they printed with it. 😊
    The easiest & quickest way to copy an Apple ][ disk was a program called Disk Muncher.
    Also you can INIT a disk with any program name. Doesn't have to be HELLO.
    Let us know when you start looking into Shape Tables, the Apple version of Sprites.
    Signs & Greeting Cards were the most used features for Print Shop. I used to create custom graphic icons for friends & print stuff.

  • @der.Schtefan
    @der.Schtefan 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That jumper block is actually quite cool. Most other serial solutions would require you to use a crossed cable (what old people would call a "LapLink" cable), or a crossover adapter. This one is a free adapter on the card. I remember the towers of adapters I had to use in the old days when all I had is opposite gendered, wrongly crossed cables, of the wrong width.

  • @paulyearley1084
    @paulyearley1084 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Having been in elementary school in the 80s, Apple //es were everywhere, and I had no idea that the printer setup was so convoluted. This is absolutely wild.

  • @DavidWonn
    @DavidWonn วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    23:32 I am not certain if this works on a ][+, but on a ][e, you can embed Apple DOS commands into BASIC like this:
    ]20 PRINT "^DCATALOG"
    where you type Control+D instead of the ^D above. It won't display on screen as you type it, and you won't visibly see when you LIST, but it is there. It effectively allows the following string to be executed as if it were a command.

  • @oliverw.douglas285
    @oliverw.douglas285 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Radio Shack at one time sold a RS-232 Mini Tester, which helped identify ports on computers & peripherals, to determine DTE vs. DCE.

  • @Ice_Karma
    @Ice_Karma วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    7:38 ... and from that, a friend of mine derived his IRC nickname!

  • @RudysRetroIntel
    @RudysRetroIntel วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Having had and still have an Apple II, I use the serial card for the modem and a parallel card for my Epson FX100 printer. Since you have a serial printer, you could use the 2nd card for a modem:) Thanks for sharing

  • @messyfool
    @messyfool วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loving this full resolution!!

  • @spudd-fl8dh
    @spudd-fl8dh 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My 1990s computer lab teacher taught us to make 10 copies of floppy when you bought software and put them in a closet.

  • @OsoDeAnteojos
    @OsoDeAnteojos 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Man, I would love to find one of those to use on my Apple II Plus. Great video, please keep them coming!

  • @20windfisch11
    @20windfisch11 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    31:56 now I know where Bernstein Zirkel ripped their logo from for that 3D Sokoban clone on Amiga called Dragon Cave using the assets from Dungeon Master.

  • @AB-Prince
    @AB-Prince 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I've always prefered paper/printed manuals. I don't know exactly what it is, but reading text off of paper is night and day easier than reading off of a screen.

  • @ZagnutBar
    @ZagnutBar 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We had a color printer. The ribbon cartridge was about twice as thick as the one you used in the Imagewriter and had rainbow bands of color on the same ribbon. The print head knew how to combine colors by pressing the correct color to the page. A standard black and white printer couldn't have done this.

  • @jondorthebrinkinator
    @jondorthebrinkinator วันที่ผ่านมา

    Woo, Imagewriter I! My family had one back in the day, though ours was hooked up to a Mac 128K later upgraded to a beige Plus.

  • @michaelsasse8427
    @michaelsasse8427 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Al Gore invented "super serial". 😂 This brought back some print ship memories. We take the ability to print graphics for granted anymore, but it was a big thing.

  • @wmrg1057
    @wmrg1057 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the sign. My sentiments exactly!

  • @jeremymtc
    @jeremymtc วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Back when printers weren't designed with malice afore-thought.

  • @cabbitkisser2620
    @cabbitkisser2620 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    i used print shop back in 1986 in school on the apple 2. i was 13 at the time.

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is the exact first computer setup I ever used as a Freshman in high school.

  • @ksenolog
    @ksenolog 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Can there be somewhere video of printing in real time be uploaded? It looked really pleasing. Thanks for video!

  • @slightlyevolved
    @slightlyevolved วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagewriter II did indeed do color printing, the OG was black only.

  • @59withqsb12
    @59withqsb12 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Shelby, love these old trips down memory lane, the Apple ][ was the first computer I ever laid hands on. I see everyone else has told you about CHR$(4) - I was yelling at the screen before I remembered I could leave a comment lol. So instead I'll recommend copy ii plus (styled as COPY ][ PLUS) to you instead, a utility I remember from back in the day for copying those pesky Apple ][ disks.

  • @PassifloraCerulea
    @PassifloraCerulea วันที่ผ่านมา

    TT-DOS? You wrote your own DOS?! You're a wizard^Wreal hacker, Shelby!

  • @vmisev
    @vmisev 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    ImageWriter is rebranded C. Itoh 8510, an absolute heavy-duty tank!

  • @elbiggus
    @elbiggus วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It's been 35+ years since I last touched an Apple // but if memory serves you need to press *Esc D* before typing any DOS commands in a BASIC program. (Maybe Ctrl+D? Something like that anyway.)

    • @jakint0sh
      @jakint0sh วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yep it’s Ctrl+D

    • @WilliamHostman
      @WilliamHostman 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Ctrl, not esc. Most printers, however, had escape sequences...

  • @Ojisan642
    @Ojisan642 วันที่ผ่านมา

    22:00 real OGs know, it’s spelled “Apple ][“ 😉
    Love the video, nice job!

  • @osgeld
    @osgeld วันที่ผ่านมา

    we need to find you a thunderscan, that will blow your mind

  • @minombredepila1580
    @minombredepila1580 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video, Shelby !!

  • @rivards1
    @rivards1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you want to execute a DOS command like "CATALOG" from a BASIC program, you have to proceed it CTRL-D. You can do this by either "PRINT CHR$(4);"CATALOG" or PRINT "(type an invisible ctrl-D here)CATALOG"

    • @jakint0sh
      @jakint0sh วันที่ผ่านมา

      Was just going to mention that! DOS 3.3 is screwy in its own special ways, and this is why I prefer ProDOS :)

  • @jeromethiel4323
    @jeromethiel4323 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Everybody knows the PR# commands. How many know about the IN# command? I know at least some people will know what these actually do, but they are basically print and input hooks. So when you print or input a character, it would go to the specified slot memory area and execute the code found there. So PR#6 boots the floppy if slot 6 is where your disk controller card is located. But IN#6 also does the same thing!
    What DOS does when it's done loading, is redirect the print and input hooks to be what they should be for normal operation. Which is why you need a "ctrl D" character for DOS commands, because DOS intercepts the character print routine to itself and looks for that ASCII code to know you are trying to do a DOS command, before passing it back to whatever.
    This is in no way comprehensive, and i may have gotten some details wrong, but this is basic Apple ][ functionality, and why certain things work the way they do.

  • @ZagnutBar
    @ZagnutBar 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You've come a long way since I was screaming CATALOG at you in the comments.
    Great video :). So glad to see someone new discovering my childhood computer.

  • @DavidLeeKersey
    @DavidLeeKersey 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Our first real computer was an APPLE ][ e my parents went all out. 80 column card, the duo disk drive, and a pair of super serial cards so we could have a printer (Imagewriter II) and a 2400 baud modem.

  • @johnsimon8457
    @johnsimon8457 วันที่ผ่านมา

    33:03 I had an apple scribe and thermal transfer printers were the noisiest hottest slowest goddamn things ever. Five years later the melted wax that comprised the ink completely fell off the page. I was 8 and I was given EXTREMELY GENEROUS hand-me-down //c but that printer was crap.
    A little funny how the printer head isn't able to print in both directions, so it wastes a lot of time just zipping back. Early 80's baby!

  • @darkwinter7395
    @darkwinter7395 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Serial? Well, that's just Super! 😉

  • @darkwinter7395
    @darkwinter7395 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do feel that something was lost when we stopped using fan-fold paper. I used to see banners all over the place, now - almost never.

  • @c1ph3rpunk
    @c1ph3rpunk 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I haven’t tried it in my ][+, but the A2DVI, both the HDMI and VGA flavors, has really been my go to lately.
    There were other cards that had jumpers to set either DTE or DCE mode, not a ton, but others. Why? That same jumper block was used on other things, not just the SSC.

  • @WilliamHostman
    @WilliamHostman 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The BASIC interpreter is in ROM, the INIT command only installs the DOS commands shim onto the disk.
    DOS commands cannot be accessed directly by the Applesoft interpreter; instead, you need a string containing a ctrl-d and the command; print the string to execute the command.

  • @toronado455
    @toronado455 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was my first computer. Though I never had a printer for it.

  • @gravewalkerz7787
    @gravewalkerz7787 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ADT Pro was the only way i was able to get my Laser 128 working with out additional hardware i was amazed with its agility to load itself to the Laser 128 over the serial port with just a few commands.

  • @dexter2433
    @dexter2433 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    this is my original os and was quite simple at the time

  • @cheeseparis1
    @cheeseparis1 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    12:38 "Here's the firmware..." Oh yes, in this era we didn't need to download a new firmware release while installing a new peripheral

  • @michaelfingers7726
    @michaelfingers7726 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Its sad that a printer from the 1970s-80s has features that impact printers today don't have: proper auto feed and manual adjustment of the feed

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    An Apple II, aot matrix printer and Print Shop. Does it get any more retro? 😁

  • @skunkmyrddyn
    @skunkmyrddyn 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have a rather specific question. Since you mentioned scanning manuals. I have a large set of rather unique manuals that I'd like to scan, but they're thousands of pages. Do you have a suggestion as to a good way to scan manuals? Especially without cutting the spines off (these are in pretty mint condition)

    • @TechTangents
      @TechTangents  9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They aren't super cheap, but the CZUR book scanners are a very fast and damage free way to scan books. I've reviewed a couple models they have, the latest was this one: th-cam.com/video/mL42XrVkHkY/w-d-xo.html
      The quality isn't as good as a flatbed, but the speed is miles ahead of other options.

  • @KAPTKipper
    @KAPTKipper วันที่ผ่านมา

    ADTPro is a great for making a disk. You can boot from the cassette port! then copy a disk image from the the serial port on to a floppy. Handy since not everyone might get a system disk with their Apple II or have a greasewesel.

  • @xlibun
    @xlibun วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Oop, you didn't filer out the high-pitched CRT whine.

    • @bob0507
      @bob0507 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also noticed that. Definitely not the most pleasing at higher speaker volumes.

    • @SenileOtaku
      @SenileOtaku 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I'm too old to hear it.

  • @wearwolf2500
    @wearwolf2500 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Now look into how the Apple ][ does its colour

  • @dave4shmups
    @dave4shmups วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember many games of The Oregon Trail being played on the Apple IIe computers in my elementary school. I’ve never seen the original Image Writer before this video, so that was cool! The Image Writer II was fast and loud. What version of Linux are you using?

  • @Ybalrid
    @Ybalrid วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    funny you say "without a newer Mac", the Apple II is not a Mac! 🤭

  • @criggie
    @criggie วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imma buy a grease weasel.....

  • @doodlebrainedd
    @doodlebrainedd วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hey! I have a question, what ever happened to the Windows 98 & XP PC's you bulit?

    • @sanityormadness
      @sanityormadness 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He still has them. Go back and look at his DRM Digital Decay video from a few months back, both appear in there (the XP one more extensively)

  • @rick420buzz
    @rick420buzz วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always thought the Apple II was pretty good for a computer that came out the same year as Star Wars.

  • @SireSquish
    @SireSquish 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What drive did you attach to the greaseweasle? Was it the apple 2 drive or another one? I have old apple 2e disks that I would like to image with my greaseweasle.

    • @TechTangents
      @TechTangents  15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It was a Tandon TM100-2A, the normal floppy drive from an IBM PC. The fluxengine software has a command for testing a floppy drive you can look into, "fluxengine analyse driveresponse". One of my other 40 track drives failed to write some Apple II disks and didn't have as good a response range as the Tandon when I tested them.

  • @TheDiveO
    @TheDiveO 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    puts floppy on top of monitor...

  • @jsalsman
    @jsalsman วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sometimes I wish I could cause transcript printing to turn on and off inside terminal shell windows. It's easy enough to do with e.g. typescript or copy/paste and lpr or whatever, and usually a silly waste of paper, but I miss the vibe of the whole modality. It feels like tearing a receipt off of a cash register.

  • @GYTCommnts
    @GYTCommnts วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just wondering here... 🤔 Wouldn't be possible to make a disk "without a Mac" through emulation (with pass-through capabilities)?
    Edit: I mean before the software now available for Linux. I was thinking if that software that only runs on Macs would be possible to use through emulation of a Mac.

  • @steveg5122
    @steveg5122 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i liked our //c for printing schoolwork in the mid 90s

  • @tschak909
    @tschak909 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Disks created by the INIT command have their DOS loaded at a fixed location in memory. These are slave disks.
    Master disks are created by the CREATE MASTER program, and have a relocator which relocates DOS to the top of available memory.
    This means that a slave DOS disk created in a 48K machine, can't be loaded on a 32K machine.

  • @crunchyfrog555
    @crunchyfrog555 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh God some of those early computing manuals were dreadful.
    I am lucky in that I still have all my old computers and consoles, and go back to them regularly. But back in the day it was a pain in the arse.
    Manuals like the ZX Spectrum one or the BBC Micro were pretty damned good. Especially if you also got the Advanced User Guide for the Beeb. But other computers had just dreadful manuals - the C64 one was pretty crap. These tended to cover either really basic stuff and left a lot of question unanswered or in some cases were just plain wrong - I think the original Oric-1 manual was a mess. And of course, what made things worse was that we had no internet and no other reference. The best we could hope is to find either friends who had better info or go to big fairs or something to find books or programmers to talk to.

    • @andrewdunbar828
      @andrewdunbar828 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought the Apple II BASIC manual was pretty good. I learned to program from it. The ZX Spectrum manual was extremely helpful when I was learning Z80 machine code.

    • @crunchyfrog555
      @crunchyfrog555 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@andrewdunbar828 Yeah the Apple one is pretty damned good. It just evoked a memory for me about how bad some of them were.

  • @schnitzelsamy
    @schnitzelsamy วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cool

  • @Freedom4Ever420
    @Freedom4Ever420 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I pour water on my discs to make them sloppy discs.

    • @jakint0sh
      @jakint0sh วันที่ผ่านมา

      why nO DON’t DO THAT

  • @G1itcher
    @G1itcher 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    That CRT whine is painful. Maybe worth a go through a low pass filter next time? Great video otherwise

  • @JohnSmith-is8nq
    @JohnSmith-is8nq วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hate halloween too.

  • @posysajrazdwatrzy
    @posysajrazdwatrzy วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please, please please please edit out the CRT whine out of your audio, it makes watching your video more genuine and also insufferable >_

  • @wcg663
    @wcg663 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love your content, but please, my poor ears, the flyback hum is like having a mosquito inside my brain, just cut the highs a smidge more por favor

  • @emonk042
    @emonk042 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Cool! I had a okidata that sounded exactly the same

  • @patternnoticing
    @patternnoticing วันที่ผ่านมา

    Audio sucks

  • @laserspaceninja
    @laserspaceninja วันที่ผ่านมา

    That halloween sign might as well say : "Egg my house, please!"

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hate the message. Be fun. No candy! WTF is up with happy October? It's HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!!!

    • @SenileOtaku
      @SenileOtaku 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      We don't get visitors on Halloween at our house. Perhaps kids don't realize the street continues past the corner (or they're scared of the weird people in the last house on the street ).

    • @theangrymarmot8336
      @theangrymarmot8336 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      You obviously lack a sense of humor - the message is fun. People will whine about anything.

  • @edonoho
    @edonoho 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why would you print a nasty message like that? I’m blocking your channel.

    • @theangrymarmot8336
      @theangrymarmot8336 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Lol, don't let the door hit you on the way out dildo. It isn't a "nasty" message. Grow a sense of humor.

  • @x-crisis
    @x-crisis วันที่ผ่านมา

    No candy? Boo...lame...