I like your approach. I have been a woodturner for many years and have only made one pen! When getting out of my car in a parking lot, on the ground was a Bic pen someone had stepped on or driven over. The plastic was broken but the refill good so that became my one and only pen!
This is very practical, simple and cost saving! You did an excellent job! Have you ever thought of making the hole first and then turning the pen? I have made tons of ferro rod handles where the hole is made early on and then it is shaped. Of course this is pretty thin walled and methinks it might not be suitable for the pen. Thanks for your very informative video!
Yes I should have drilled the hole first. I think I metioned it on the video, Because the wood had little grain features I got away with it. A courser grain could guide the drill off centre. The wall thickness is ok I've been using the pen eversince with no problems. Dense timber is the best for thin walled pens when using a bic insert. Pen kits eliminate that problem by using brass tube inserts.
Hi Mr. Derek! Great video! And What a great idea to use the bic inserts.. i am new to turning, i have had a lathe now for a year...and boy how i wish i had ine years ago.. I really am hooked on it. Lol.. so glad to have found your site and appreciate your format of delivering and pasaing in all the knowledge youve gained. Thanks!
wood turning is like a drug. better make something nice for the wife etc. because you maybe be turning on your date night but honey i forgot the lathe was talking to me after being a machinist's welder for 30yrs and getting my 1st wood lathe new to turning but more excited after work hear the lathe run better than going to the bar or mowing the grass. fyfi a chain saw lives in my truck locked cocked and ready for a tree down across the road free wood. This is mental illness if you start wood turning. i LOVE IT
wow. Great video. I love that you show pictures of the tools where you can buy it from. I am thinking to buy that lathe. I thing you could upgrade your camera as the video quality is a bit poor.
@@DerekBailey-jc7rk your camera is absolutely fine 😎 I'm more interested in your skill and content then how sharp it looks TOP INFORMATION subscribed 😎. I'd rather you spend your money on tools and wood ect🤗
😎 great information old school teaching vibe . Your channel is new don't worry about all this 4k📸 fancy LED light that will come in time im more interested in your knowledge and skills ..
Love the video. Can I hog off blade width sized Sections of the blank on resin and acrylic blanks? I’m referring to the lathing process you did that involved pressing the blade into the blank instead of drawing in down the blank.
I'm not sure I understand the term "hog off". I presume you mean using the full width of the square carbide tipped tool. Acrylic blanks can be brittle and with a small diameter may fracture if you push in using the full width of the tool. If your familiar with shear scraping I'd youse the square tipped tool in shear mode working along the length of the blank. I hope if understood you correctly.
That's a difficult question as there is no digital speed readout on the lathe. For a general rule of thumb however, when drilling I recommend 700 rpm to 1000 rpm for drilling and 2000 rpm for turning with the carbide tipped tools. Sanding the same speed and max speed for buffing the finish.
For Turning sound timber divide 9000 by the diameter in inches. For tricky timber divide 6000 by the diameter in inches ie:- 6000/6 inches Dia = 1000 rpm. Hope that helps.
Carbide tipped tools require less skill to use and create immediate results & dont need sharpening (which is another skill), although on soft woods they leave a poor finish. They are not kind to very thin wood if fine detail shapes are required. They scrape the wood not slice it as do traditional tools. Traditional tools require more skill but are more satisfying to use when you've aquired the skill. I hope that helps.
Well yes you can turn small on a big lathe but not big on a small lathe. All depends on your work space and turning ambitions. Record Power have a good range of small Morse 2 lathes with 5 year warranty.
Very difficult to sharpen carbide insert tools. A diamond grinding wheel is needed. The tools I'm using are practically new, but if worn I can simply rotate the tip to a different cutting edge.
I use a Zebra Z grip pen to make turned pens. The basic cost of this pen is $1 so the total cost to make a turned pen is less than $3. Have you tried this method?
@DerekBailey-jc7rk Here is my method to use a Zebra Z grip click pen. I start by taking the pen apart and using the end click cap and cut off the stub under the rubber grip. I use a 4 inch long block for my wood. I measure the diameter of the parts to be inserted into the block and pick drill to match. I drill the ends of the block on my lathe and finish in the middle with 7 mm. I find bushing that fit the drilled holes and mount the block on the lathe. No sleeves are needed in this method. I then turn the block to shape and finish with linseed oil after sanding. I assemble the pen by installing the click cap in one end using a drop of glue and the stub cut off in the other. I then insert the ink and spring assemble and I am done. Thank for asking, Chuck Rader, retired mechanical engineer.
I like your approach. I have been a woodturner for many years and have only made one pen! When getting out of my car in a parking lot, on the ground was a Bic pen someone had stepped on or driven over. The plastic was broken but the refill good so that became my one and only pen!
Yes it's more assembling and finishing than turning but can be rewarding all the same.
Very good video, really enjoyed it. Thank you.😀
My pleasure!
This is very practical, simple and cost saving! You did an excellent job! Have you ever thought of making the hole first and then turning the pen? I have made tons of ferro rod handles where the hole is made early on and then it is shaped. Of course this is pretty thin walled and methinks it might not be suitable for the pen. Thanks for your very informative video!
Yes I should have drilled the hole first. I think I metioned it on the video, Because the wood had little grain features I got away with it. A courser grain could guide the drill off centre. The wall thickness is ok I've been using the pen eversince with no problems. Dense timber is the best for thin walled pens when using a bic insert. Pen kits eliminate that problem by using brass tube inserts.
Hi Mr. Derek! Great video! And What a great idea to use the bic inserts.. i am new to turning, i have had a lathe now for a year...and boy how i wish i had ine years ago.. I really am hooked on it. Lol.. so glad to have found your site and appreciate your format of delivering and pasaing in all the knowledge youve gained. Thanks!
Your welcome. I hope I can keep you interested.
wood turning is like a drug. better make something nice for the wife etc. because you maybe be turning on your date night but honey i forgot the lathe was talking to me after being a machinist's welder for 30yrs and getting my 1st wood lathe new to turning but more excited after work hear the lathe run better than going to the bar or mowing the grass. fyfi a chain saw lives in my truck locked cocked and ready for a tree down across the road free wood. This is mental illness if you start wood turning. i LOVE IT
wow. Great video. I love that you show pictures of the tools where you can buy it from. I am thinking to buy that lathe. I thing you could upgrade your camera as the video quality is a bit poor.
Thanks for your input.
it's great to be appreciated.
I will get a better camara and mic soon but I'm just finding my feet at the moment.
@@DerekBailey-jc7rk your camera is absolutely fine 😎 I'm more interested in your skill and content then how sharp it looks TOP INFORMATION subscribed 😎. I'd rather you spend your money on tools and wood ect🤗
Sounds good to me, I do have a lust for tools and making jigs and conversation pieces etc.
😎 great information old school teaching vibe . Your channel is new don't worry about all this 4k📸 fancy LED light that will come in time im more interested in your knowledge and skills ..
I hope i can satisfy your thurst for knowledge.😀
@@DerekBailey-jc7rk 😂
Love the video. Can I hog off blade width sized Sections of the blank on resin and acrylic blanks? I’m referring to the lathing process you did that involved pressing the blade into the blank instead of drawing in down the blank.
I'm not sure I understand the term "hog off". I presume you mean using the full width of the square carbide tipped tool.
Acrylic blanks can be brittle and with a small diameter may fracture if you push in using the full width of the tool. If your familiar with shear scraping I'd youse the square tipped tool in shear mode working along the length of the blank.
I hope if understood you correctly.
I would like tow know what speed you use for each applications
That's a difficult question as there is no digital speed readout on the lathe. For a general rule of thumb however, when drilling I recommend 700 rpm to 1000 rpm for drilling and 2000 rpm for turning with the carbide tipped tools. Sanding the same speed and max speed for buffing the finish.
For Turning sound timber divide 9000 by the diameter in inches. For tricky timber divide 6000 by the diameter in inches ie:- 6000/6 inches Dia = 1000 rpm. Hope that helps.
I'm new to all this. Great video. Would you recommend the carbide tip tools rather than the traditional ones?
Carbide tipped tools require less skill to use and create immediate results & dont need sharpening (which is another skill), although on soft woods they leave a poor finish. They are not kind to very thin wood if fine detail shapes are required. They scrape the wood not slice it as do traditional tools. Traditional tools require more skill but are more satisfying to use when you've aquired the skill.
I hope that helps.
Interesting . Would get a machine with No. 2 mores taper. More common size.
Well yes you can turn small on a big lathe but not big on a small lathe.
All depends on your work space and turning ambitions.
Record Power have a good range of small Morse 2 lathes with 5 year warranty.
Sharpen lathe tools
Very difficult to sharpen carbide insert tools. A diamond grinding wheel is needed. The tools I'm using are practically new, but if worn I can simply rotate the tip to a different cutting edge.
I use a Zebra Z grip pen to make turned pens. The basic cost of this pen is $1 so the total cost to make a turned pen is less than $3. Have you tried this method?
No i have'nt first i've heard of this pen. Do you transfer the pen mechanism to the wood blank also, or just use the ink tube only.
@DerekBailey-jc7rk Here is my method to use a Zebra Z grip click pen. I start by taking the pen apart and using the end click cap and cut off the stub under the rubber grip. I use a 4 inch long block for my wood. I measure the diameter of the parts to be inserted into the block and pick drill to match. I drill the ends of the block on my lathe and finish in the middle with 7 mm. I find bushing that fit the drilled holes and mount the block on the lathe. No sleeves are needed in this method. I then turn the block to shape and finish with linseed oil after sanding. I assemble the pen by installing the click cap in one end using a drop of glue and the stub cut off in the other. I then insert the ink and spring assemble and I am done. Thank for asking, Chuck Rader, retired mechanical engineer.
Thanks I'll have to have a go at that as it seams you can use the click mechanism on the newly made wood pen.👍
@DerekBailey-jc7rk Good, To take the click cap off use plyers on the cap and twice the body as the cap is a press in fit
I cant get the links to work for this video, any chance od you doing in a pdf so you all can have them. Thank you.
Im sorry, am I missing something, what links are you refering to?
Which ones?